How To Install A 240V Outlet In Garage - EV Car Charger, Welder, And Electric Range (Hubbell 14 50)

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  • @TheExcellentLaborer
    @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +44

    Hey! I covered A LOT of information in this video, so I placed timestamps below to help you navigate this video. Also, you can join the channel using this link ua-cam.com/channels/UJXaEduMHGB3Iap3DusmAA.htmljoin . We would love to have you as member!
    NEMA Outlets Explained 00:28
    240 Volt Supplies 04:14
    6/3 Wire Rough In 06:53
    Metal Electrical Box Installation 08:13
    NEMA 14-50 Outlet Options 11:10
    240V Outlet Installation 14:45
    Connecting 6/3 Wire To Panel 21:04
    50 AMP Breaker Installation 24:37
    240V EV Car Charging 27:38

    • @joeboxter3635
      @joeboxter3635 11 місяців тому

      Which one is needed for split air heat pump that says it needs 220V? Eg LG?

    • @scottburchfield8272
      @scottburchfield8272 9 місяців тому

      Can I use a 2/0 2/0 2/0 wire to run a range or stove

    • @solarkbike8
      @solarkbike8 8 місяців тому

      Where is the Ground Fault protection ?

    • @markmonroe9502
      @markmonroe9502 3 місяці тому

      Excellent explanation! My electrician installed the NEMA 14-50 running alongside the gas line in my garage. Is that safe and according to code?

    • @1963mdg
      @1963mdg 2 місяці тому

      Great informative video

  • @darwood6861
    @darwood6861 7 місяців тому +11

    Great video. One of the best I've seen. Just call it 240v. In 38 years I've never measured 110v or 220v. All voltage is nominal from the power company, but they have been supplying higher voltages for my entire life

    • @Resist4
      @Resist4 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! I'm tired of people still using the terms 110v/220v, when it doesn't exist and hasn't for a whole lot of decades.

  • @pauljanssen7594
    @pauljanssen7594 11 місяців тому +20

    On that ground wire I usually bend it in a u-shaped so there's more surface, and that 75 inch pounds. Which calculates into 6 foot pounds.

  • @chumanji9
    @chumanji9 Місяць тому +10

    So glad you mention industial grade plugs. For EV charging it is a must.

    • @lakorai2
      @lakorai2 27 днів тому +1

      They now make EV Grade outlets that have an EV charge logo on them. Makes it easy for the inspector to approve the job.

    • @lakorai2
      @lakorai2 21 день тому +1

      In addition if this outlet was installed outside, say on an outside wall outside of the garage, you will need a Weather Resistant version of the same plug.
      Also don't forget that the NEC now requires GFCI breakers on all 240 outlets in a garage now.

  • @JJ-qs5zp
    @JJ-qs5zp 4 місяці тому +6

    As a self-proclaimed UA-cam electrician 😥, that's the 1st time I've heard about wiggling stranded wire then re-torquing the screws. Thanks for that! I've wired a hot tub, pool heat pump and an EV charger. After seeing this video, I'm definitely going back to verify those screw torques.
    I also originally cheaped out and installed the Levitron 14-50 receptacle. I had a 2nd EV charging cable available which I solely used for this plug thinking as I won't be unplugging/re-plugging the charger daily it should be fine. However, the cheaper quality receptacle got significantly hotter when charging at 32A, so I'd end up reducing the current to prevent over-heating. Bought the Hubbell receptacle soon afterwards and haven't had the same issue again.
    Great detailed video. Cheers!

  • @brianerock
    @brianerock 7 місяців тому +16

    A VERY CLEAR demonstration video! Good job! The only omission, however, is that the 2-pole breaker MUST be a GFCI-type breaker per NEC® 210.8(A)(2) and 625.22. Any personnel protection against ground faults internal to the EVSE protects SOLELY the EVSE OUTPUT CORD to the EV but NOT the EVSE INPUT CORD from the NEMA 14-50R receptacle to the EVSE. (Technically that GFCI-type breaker would eliminate the need for refund GFCI protection integral to the EVSE UNLESS the EVSE performs power conversion [nearly all DO NOT convert]).
    - Brian Rock, Hubbell Incorporated,
    I also serve as a CMP-2 and a CMP-15 Member but this is strictly my own position (not NEMA’s and not NFPA’s)
    I also am one of the 7 co-authors of the original (1996) NEC® Article 625 for Electrical Power Research Institute (EPRI).

    • @adamlloy2807
      @adamlloy2807 5 місяців тому +2

      Brian, I'm in the middle of wiring my detached garage right now, and am having some trouble figuring this one out. It seems that the manufacturer specifies NOT to use a GFCI outlet for an EVSE 40 amp charger (50 amp breaker), and that the EVSE has GFCI built in. That said, I note your comment above regarding input/output. My issue here is that these chargers are known to trip a GFCI outlet or breaker, much like a tredmill does. What is the work around here in order to have a reliable appliance and meet code? My charger is corded - specifically a JuiceBox Pro 40 model and I id wire it into a external waterproof housing containing the NEMA 14-50.
      For that matter - any recommendation for wiring in a treadmill in a detached garage as well? I plan to dedicate an outlet for this and wiring it straight to the panel on a non-GFCI/AFCI breaker.
      Any suggestions?

    • @MasterTheNEC
      @MasterTheNEC 4 місяці тому

      Might also want to inform him that the item in his hand is a device, not an outlet. The device in this case is a receptacle, not an outlet, which is installed in an outlet box.

    • @moneth08able
      @moneth08able Місяць тому

      Hello so do we need a GFCi?​@@adamlloy2807

  • @Tom-mu7zy
    @Tom-mu7zy 8 місяців тому +7

    Good for you for grounding the outlet box. Too many UA-cam experts fail to do that.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  8 місяців тому +2

      I always ground my metal boxes. Thanks!

    • @edgecomber
      @edgecomber 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, but he ran the wirec ounterclockwise around the screw. Much more likely to work loose.

  • @PeteTims
    @PeteTims 10 місяців тому +46

    I just want to caution everyone that using NM cable for this circuit limits you to the 60 degree column for Ampacity (NEC 334.80), that's 55A here. Furthermore, maximum current based on a continuous load should be no more than 40A's on this circuit since 125% x 40 = 50A. Therefore, never plug a 48A smart charger into this receptacle as some homeowners down the road may do and perhaps label the receptacle to say 40A MAX if you are going to use these 32A mobile charging cords. Note: even if you use 6AWG THHN rated at 90 degrees, your receptacle can only be used for less than 50 Amps. For me personally, I don't even install receptacles anymore for EV's, as they were just never designed for these high and continuous loads over periods of 8 hours or more. Also consider the constant unplugging and plugging in at the receptacle; your terminals will be lose in no time with a chance for arcing and a fire very high. Buy a hardwired smart charger instead and have it installed by a licensed and insured professional!

    • @curtisbme
      @curtisbme 8 місяців тому +9

      "Also consider the constant unplugging and plugging in at the receptacle" Good guidance however this part wouldn't happen as the charger would get plugged into the outlet and left there. No different than a dryer or other appliance.

    • @JM-iz3fr
      @JM-iz3fr 6 місяців тому +3

      The ev chargers are 240 volt, no neutral necessary. They also are required to be gfci protected

    • @javiergiraldez9374
      @javiergiraldez9374 2 місяці тому

      That it’s correct. I prefers THHN and a raceway EMT.

    • @Gunter_Custom
      @Gunter_Custom 2 місяці тому +4

      If you are charging a EV with that Recepticle .. the plug should not be plugged and unplugged.. it should just be plugged. .
      You plug and unplug at the vehicle 😂😂😂

    • @TrendyStone
      @TrendyStone Місяць тому

      You are correct. Technically you should set your Tesla Wall Charge (or whatever you use) to charge at 40 amps (or 44amps if you have that option, which I have with my two Tesla wall connectors in power sharing mode. 44A x 125% = 55 Amps. That's where I'm set because I made the mistake of running 6 gage Romex and now the basement if finished and it would be a nightmare to run #4 or #6 THHN. But I'm happy at 44 amps.

  • @AdamS-lh2ug
    @AdamS-lh2ug Рік тому +229

    Don’t wrap your ground counter-clockwise like he did in this video. If you watch closely as he tightens the ground screw it pushes the wire out of the screw. ALWAYS go clockwise when you wrap your wires. This goes for receptacles, and literally everything you wire.

    • @crisestrada9341
      @crisestrada9341 11 місяців тому +15

      Very true, I was about to say something about that as well.

    • @reginaldnoe5613
      @reginaldnoe5613 11 місяців тому +10

      Yep.... one of the first things pointed out to me when first learning to wire recepticles

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 11 місяців тому +22

      If you noticed, it's a loop, not a hook. Therefore, it's "wrapped" in both directions. Even if he wrapped it the other way to make the loop, it would be the same U shape around the ground screw. Think about the physics. What he did is just fine. The only difference is which side of the loop gets wound tighter and which side gets loosened slightly. You could argue it's slightly better to have the length going to the receptacle tighter because it's going to get moved around, but in practice it will likely have the same impact either way.

    • @josephphillips1777
      @josephphillips1777 11 місяців тому +8

      Or use the pre-made ground tail and "pigtail" your grounds together

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... 11 місяців тому +14

      @@802Garage Bullshit. As the faster tightens it naturally unwinds the loop. Any movement has the wire detach.The terminal is of such poor design, having no means of restraining wire moving from under the fastener.
      Every trade qualified professional electrician knows this... yet you think it's all A-OK.

  • @ppomm
    @ppomm Рік тому +7

    Another video where you show what an excellent instructor you are Jost. Lots of detail, clear explanations but yet you keep it moving. I will say that in the elec business a 50A range outlet is x dollars but if you say it''s for an EV it always seems to be 2x dollars lol. Good explanation of why an industrial grade plug is worth the extra money. Thanks for sharing your skills and knowledge!

    • @AdamS-lh2ug
      @AdamS-lh2ug 9 місяців тому +1

      I’ll give him credit for that. It’s worth the extra money for quality plugs.

  • @vbarbee1
    @vbarbee1 10 місяців тому +11

    I'm by no means an electrician, but have Don electrical work and taught by some great electricians. I was always taught when tightening wires against a box to route the wire in the same direction the wire tightens. That way the screw doesn't push the wire out, it draws it in. Use wire strippers not knives especially razor blades. When tightening lugs, tighten, back of, tighten, back off then torque. Also anytime adding new wire to a panel to kill main power. The person who taught me had a saying. The day you get complacent is the day you will get hurt or killed.

    • @darrendolphdragos9752
      @darrendolphdragos9752 9 місяців тому +1

      " I was always taught when tightening wires against a box to route the wire in the same direction the wire tightens" - When the wire is completely looped IE: out of cable, around screw, then into receptacle... it doesn't matter. Looping clockwise only matters on an open ended (cut) "hook" loop of wire.

    • @mikemm60
      @mikemm60 7 місяців тому

      or get the proper PPE, tho turning off breaker is cheaper.

  • @KevinCoop1
    @KevinCoop1 Рік тому +8

    Excellent video and explanations. Technically you installed a 120/240 volt outlet. For those that do not want to spend $90 for the receptacle, Bryant (owned by Hubbell) same exact device is approximately half price. Why cheaper? If Hubbell can get named in the specifications for a large project, then higher profit. They bought Bridgeport out in 1991 which makes the Bryant devices. Never use cheap receptacles for car chargers. They overheat.

    • @LuLu_World
      @LuLu_World 5 місяців тому

      they did not buy bridgeport. bryant was located in bpt ct

  • @dankelley9361
    @dankelley9361 Рік тому +13

    Josh, excellent descriptive YT video on installing a 50 amp outlet for a EV charger. I would let the viewers know that the 6 nomenclature on the 6-3 wire stands for the AWG or gauge of wire needed to withstand the 50 amp current draw.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +3

      Thanks a lot, Dan! I did explain what AWG was in my last video. You’re right, I would have not heard to mention it again. Thanks for watching!

  • @johndernberger1961
    @johndernberger1961 Рік тому +12

    Nice job. In reference to the outlet placement for stoves, I recommend reviewing the stove install instructions. There is normally a diagram for the placement for the outlet. I really enjoy your channel.

  • @rand49er
    @rand49er Місяць тому +5

    Excellent job. And no stupid music. Thanks.

  • @ericfraser7543
    @ericfraser7543 Рік тому +11

    13:30 Like you said not all NEMA 14-50 outlets are the same, I would add that the duty cycle of an EV charger can be drawing 50 amps continuously where a standard range outlet was designed to handle the intermittent duty cycle of a range.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +2

      Yes, good point! The long term continuous draw justifies having an industrial grade outlet versus a range outlet. Thanks for your input!

    • @Lou-jf4rl
      @Lou-jf4rl Рік тому +2

      I installed mine the same way with the same receptical concerns. I also under sized my load to 40 amps because I was concerned about heat created by impedence with such a continuous draw over a 2-3 hour period. I used romex 6/3 due to electrical code but I think that other cables may be better at heat dissipation.

  • @AdamS-lh2ug
    @AdamS-lh2ug Рік тому +2

    Also, if you have side cutters or really your strippers, you can score the romex and rip it without damaging the wires, you get a much cleaner look in your panel. Strip your wires before going into the panel.

  • @TrendyStone
    @TrendyStone Місяць тому

    Prettle good video. I installed a sub panel in my garage, a NEMA 14-50 (the high quality one) and two Tesla Wall Connectors which share a 60 amp breaker and power-share, which is a fantastic Tesla feature. If one car is charging you get 48 amps and if you charge two cars you get 24 amps until one of them finishes and then it jumps back to 48 amps (or whatever you've set the charger to). Powersharing is a great Tesla feature for those that have more than one car and perhaps don't have the ability to run two dedicated sets of wires from the main panel.

    • @JohnMark1313
      @JohnMark1313 Місяць тому

      If you are using the NEMA 14-50 outlet, even for two Wall Connectors, the max breaker needs to be 50.

  • @joepacheco7979
    @joepacheco7979 8 місяців тому +13

    I think this was the clearest, well explained video I've ever seen on UA-cam. Keep it up. Thanks!

  • @michaelstora70
    @michaelstora70 9 місяців тому +2

    Recent code revisions require GFCI outdoor or in garages above 20A but that is only for branch circuits (welder, range, EV charger) but it is not allowed on feeder circuits (RV outlet--anything with a subpanel). The same 14-50P could be either.

  • @josephleyva7471
    @josephleyva7471 9 місяців тому +12

    I really appreciate how thorough you describe each step. Your a great instructor. Just what I needed. Shalom

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 11 місяців тому +5

    I have watched A LOT of these tutorials and done A TON of research into the actual code provisions pertaining to 240V receptacle installs. This is the first video I can point to that is essentially mistake and code violation free. The only exception being GFCI protection, but we all understand why you didn't go that route, hahaha. Awesome job! Will be my go to video to share with others looking for good info.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  11 місяців тому +1

      I always try to make my videos as accurate as possible. I’m glad you enjoyed this installation. Thanks for watching!

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... 11 місяців тому +1

      Your wrong about the "mistake free" content here.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 11 місяців тому +10

      @@BTW... Point out the mistake then or your comment is completely worthless.

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 10 місяців тому

      Clearly it is more than just meeting code. See my post on the use of the knife to strip the wires.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 10 місяців тому +4

      @@deang5622 I'm not going to go through the entire comments section to find your specific post. If your biggest issue with this video is how he strips off the wire sheathing, I rest my case. You'd be friggin' amazed to see how many electricians do it. 99% of DIY people watching this video are not going to have Romex strippers. This is one of the best and most complete videos on the topic for sure. You can find something wrong with anything if you try hard enough. Nobody is going to have every single piece of information perfect and give every piece of advice possible.

  • @TM-td7vk
    @TM-td7vk 11 місяців тому +1

    Your description should had said how to Install a 120/240 EV Charging circuit. In most units the neutral Is not needed but good to have for future use.

  • @ShamelessHellions
    @ShamelessHellions 7 місяців тому +1

    For EV supply equipment, direct wire is the way to go. Much less possibility of the equipment melting down vs the cord and plug method. Also, you would avoid an unnecessary expense of the outlet. The cheap leviton outlets are fine for a range, but are a legit fire hazard on EVSE. The wire used for direct wire will save some $$ as well. EVSE use 2 wire with ground and don’t require a neutral. I do like how this installer used a torque screwdriver. Properly torquing the terminals are important for every install (just look at manufacturers instructions), but especially when there is a significant current draw.

  • @cfrcrd5759
    @cfrcrd5759 10 місяців тому +1

    I thought the video was well done. You were precise and step by step. Sure, you always wrap a wire the way the screw screws in and I usually use a wire stripper in stead of a utility knife to strip the casing but still a well done video. Thanks.

  • @garyt534
    @garyt534 Рік тому +16

    Just to be clear, Torque specs are in inch pounds not foot lbs. Also, it's best practice to use a proper wire stripper instead of a razor blade, that way you won't risk nicking the conductor with the razor blade.

    • @davidhall3747
      @davidhall3747 8 місяців тому +1

      As an Automotive Technician I noticed that mistake too. Inch pounds and Foot pounds are two different tightening specifications.

    • @paulcrumley9756
      @paulcrumley9756 6 місяців тому +2

      Newton-meters, too. And in my industry (aviation), there are approved wire strippers that must be used to avoid the likelihood of a violation. I'm surprised how many youtube experts use what would be unapproved tools to strip and crimp wires. Those tools are not excessively expensive, and with them it's almost impossible to harm the wiring or make a connection that is subject to loosening and arcing/catching fire. . .if it's good for a Boeing it's great for my house and vehicle.

    • @Resist4
      @Resist4 5 місяців тому

      I thought that was weird too, coming from an electrician. No way you can get 75 foot pounds of torque with torque screwdriver.

    • @paulcrumley9756
      @paulcrumley9756 5 місяців тому

      @@Resist4 he didn't say "Foot" or "Inch," just "Pounds," which is meaningless measuring torque. However, given that size torque driver, I'd assume it's an inch-lb device.

    • @Resist4
      @Resist4 5 місяців тому

      @@paulcrumley9756 True, but since this was a how to video he should have not just said pounds.

  • @joshuabowen316
    @joshuabowen316 11 місяців тому +10

    Dude you just saved/made me thousands of dollars you are the MAN.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  11 місяців тому

      Awesome! I’m glad I can help. Good luck with the rest of your projects!

    • @booppert5897
      @booppert5897 25 днів тому +1

      Save money now, and pay for the house fire later with voided insurance for unlicensed work.

    • @joshuabowen316
      @joshuabowen316 25 днів тому

      @@booppert5897 got a permit and inspection dumbass 😘 😘

    • @xtraspecialj
      @xtraspecialj 4 дні тому

      ​@@booppert5897honest question, but as long as you follow code, do you really have to pay a licensed technician to do this? I understand that you should, but as long as everything is done correctly, it would still be uninsured?

  • @semmunn8322
    @semmunn8322 2 місяці тому +1

    thanks for not having a loud music on the background

  • @Bartolobot
    @Bartolobot Місяць тому +1

    man, you really showin'um how it's done. There only two types of "how to" videos that work. This is one way and the ones where they let the pictures do the talking. So, if you're going to talk and explain how to do something do it like The Excellent Laborer. strait to the point clear good explanation and white board with the actual examples of necessary materials. I got exactly what I was looking for with one video. cool thanks. I subscribed.

    • @Bartolobot
      @Bartolobot Місяць тому

      ohh I just recently took delivery of my Cyberbeast truck and ill be installing the wall charger myself . Not to worry mate this wouldn't be my first rodeo I put in a new main panel and meter with main service entrence including a new 240v 50A line for a range in my kitchen. I'm not an electrician but I know what im doing. I'd never attempt a project if im not sure i can do it.

  • @samdang5246
    @samdang5246 Місяць тому +1

    Great job. And no stupid music. Thanks.

  • @ScotianCanadien
    @ScotianCanadien 8 місяців тому +2

    Production quality on your videos, your instruction, your concise communication and your overall knowledge are all very impressive.
    I'm going for a career change at 32, and have been watching all of your electrical videos ahead of getting an apprenticeship.
    Thanks a ton for these

  • @enoch_likeit
    @enoch_likeit Місяць тому +1

    What a great instruction with product details & links on the description. Ty!!

  • @anthonyesparsen9453
    @anthonyesparsen9453 7 місяців тому +2

    Don't forget follow local NEC codes where gfci and arcfault protection may be required

  • @dustenskinner8404
    @dustenskinner8404 6 місяців тому

    You make great videos man, highly informative and easy to understand. Greatly appreciate you doing the work and teaching the rest of us. Keep up the great work bro 👍🏻

  • @anthonyesparsen9453
    @anthonyesparsen9453 7 місяців тому +3

    Don't bypass your NEC requirements for new 220 install requirements like GFCI/arc fault per 218.8,210.12

  • @dunckeroo1987
    @dunckeroo1987 9 місяців тому +1

    For a range, it is probably better to install under 8 inches to accommodate for standard or short drawer space -- that is the space behind the drawer that provides space for the plug. You might want to face the ground towards left or right -- some cords have the ground up and some have the ground down, and you want the loop to slide back in easy.

  • @markjewett9566
    @markjewett9566 Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic! Just what I needed! Awesome Job explaining!!! Highly recommended!!!

  • @keangfamily
    @keangfamily 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for educated us of how to install EV outlet.

  • @namkablam
    @namkablam 2 місяці тому

    10:25 - you should be looping the ground wire around the screw in a clockwise direction so as you tighten the screw, the wire tightens around the screw. You wrapped it around counter-clockwise and as you tightened the screw, you can see the wire loosening around the screw.

  • @TonySzemereta
    @TonySzemereta 2 місяці тому +1

    After 40+ years doing electrical work, 30+ as a lic. elec. contr, I never thought it a good idea to try and teach a homeowner how to do electrical work. The $ they might save doing the work themselves, will be pennys to the loss they might suffer if their work experiences a catastrophic failure. There is a real important reason why one needs to be LICENSED by each State to do electrical work.

    • @TrendyStone
      @TrendyStone Місяць тому

      You are probably right. I'm an engineer and love DIY projects...so I've wired both homes we've built/expanded but I'm sure a licensed electrician is almost always the best choice.

  • @greg.montelione
    @greg.montelione 8 місяців тому

    Excellent video instruction of how to rough-in and install a 240 v outlet. This was extremely thorough and very concise. I feel confident that I could now undertake this work on my own.
    The only two questions I still have are;
    1). What size mudring should be used depending on the thickness of the drywall? and
    2). Why not use a two gang box to eliminate the need for the mudring?
    I think part of the answer is what you said about the mudring providing more room in the ox. I get that there is only one device and not two switches or outlets that would require a two gang box but the two gang has the four ears or tabs you'd need to secure the device to the box. Is this just a preference thing or is there another reason for this?
    These are sincere questions. I'm not being critical. I know enough to be dangerous and just like to have all of the information before undertaking work. Either way, I'm going to follow your lead thinking that if it's good for your house... then, it's good for mine. I'm asking in the event you respond before I've started / completed the work.
    Thanks in advance and all the best to you. Keep up the good work. 👍

  • @Lordvoldemore
    @Lordvoldemore Місяць тому

    Thanks for the insight on the surface mount connector.

  • @ruthroglic-kehoe5534
    @ruthroglic-kehoe5534 Місяць тому

    You were very thorough and detailed on all steps. Thank you so much.👍

  • @jimmytate7587
    @jimmytate7587 2 місяці тому +1

    according to the ne, a 30 amp circuit is approved for a welder even though the welder has a 50 amp plug on the cord. the receptacle must be label for welder use only.

  • @robertbeyers1308
    @robertbeyers1308 5 місяців тому

    When connecting your ground to the box didn't go in clock wise direction so the wire got loose. Always go clockwise (not counterclockwise) when turning a screw into any wire terminal. In order to ensure the wire got taken not loosed

  • @arsmartins
    @arsmartins 4 місяці тому +1

    What a great set of instructional videos. Very easy to follow.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  4 місяці тому

      I make all of my videos straight to the point and step-by-step. I’m glad you found them helpful. Good luck with your project!

  • @stuartmarkman769
    @stuartmarkman769 5 місяців тому

    I was tought too wrap wires clockwise around screws so they stayed tight and didn't spread out. It just works better. Torque is rated in inch or foot pounds. The wire screws are tightened too INCH pounds.

  • @carloslagunas859
    @carloslagunas859 7 місяців тому

    Nice explanation. Thanks I just learned, how to wire a 240..

  • @Amer-yl4gb
    @Amer-yl4gb 11 місяців тому +5

    Great information video. I notice 1 mistake and that was you installed the 3/4 cable clamp backward. The screws for the clamp has to be inside the box. This is because incase in future they need to get more wire inside box on a finished wall they can loosen the screws and pull some wire inside the box.

    • @JohnThomas-lq5qp
      @JohnThomas-lq5qp 11 місяців тому

      Wrong. Two screw connectors should have the screws on outside of the box. Don't think inspectors like your way. With NMB cable stapled within 12" of a box next to impossible to pull in more wire.

    • @Amer-yl4gb
      @Amer-yl4gb 11 місяців тому

      @@JohnThomas-lq5qp lol please dont make things up out of the blue. This has nothing to do with the inspector, this is about the design engineering and proper function. First of all it doesnt matter what inspector likes or doesnt like. As per code, a cable must be secured to the box by the method the manufacturer of device/fastener has specified. 2nd of all, USUALLY (but not a requirement), a GOOD electrician will leave a slack of wire in the form of S between the box and the staple. A house lives for 100 years and during this time if someone mess up wires when connecting the devices, they'd have the option to pull in some slack into the box.
      A good example of this is the plastic push-in connectors for NMD wires where you can pull wires into box but not out.
      2nd example is the regular NMD respectable boxes with the screw inside the box to secure the cable.

    • @JohnThomas-lq5qp
      @JohnThomas-lq5qp 11 місяців тому

      Did you ever have a job inspected? The inspector or AHJ has the final say. With 12/2 costing what a $1 a foot a little over a year ago no electrician will install stupid money wasting S bends for cables entering a box. The NEC mandates a support within 12" of boxes feed with NMB cable so that makes it very difficult to make a S bend and provide the 12" support. Metal box manufacturers never supplied type of connector to be used in their boxes. There are over a quarter Millon words in the NEC and hundreds of exceptions to all of the articles and like I have been told at the over 100 continuing education classes that I attended to renew my electrical license is if you ask 3 inspectors you might get 4 answers. The few times that I objected to an hick prima Donna only inspector in a little town that attempted to write me up for code violations I won out. Best was after my inspector passed a job local hick tried to I give me a violation for making a single splice on a 14 gauge wire inside if a circuit breaker panel. After I gave him the NEC article that allows it told me that he would let me get away with it that time. After many years still learning.

    • @Amer-yl4gb
      @Amer-yl4gb 10 місяців тому +2

      @@JohnThomas-lq5qp I do agree with you... with the copper prices after Covid no one is doing that S thing anymore. I learned that when I was a kid doing construction jobs here and there. But we do electrical cabinets for manufacturing segments. Complying with residential codes is child's play compare to industrial codes and regulations. I personally done 2 full basements and 3 house renovations jobs so far... maybe I was lucky I haven't had a jerk for a inspector... and yes like you said there been time when the inspector has said "you can't do this" and I told him yes I can and here's what the code says and then he would ok ok fine but I wouldnt do it like that... and moved on to the next item... inspectors just verify your are up to the code and if your are then it doesn't matter what he personally feels about your job.

    • @Amer-yl4gb
      @Amer-yl4gb 10 місяців тому +1

      What led me to this video was out of frustration in fitting a 14-50 receptacle in a 2-gang box. Usually a 4-11/16 box is used like the oven. But I wanted to minimize the drywall damage in the already finished garage and the fact that the receptacle bag said use a 2-gang box. Now when I was trying to wire 6/3 cable to it and intall it, the receptacle plate bent. So I wanted to see how others do this 😅. Anyways I cut the wires much shorter and pre bent wires and that still was hard to install but it went in fine.

  • @saudxyz9234
    @saudxyz9234 7 днів тому

    Very nicely explained. Thank You.

  • @hanzischultz9284
    @hanzischultz9284 2 місяці тому

    Boy, you really know how to explain things. Very clear, detailed, complete, and so easy to understand. An excellent instructor!

  • @joshscott301
    @joshscott301 10 місяців тому +1

    I believe there have been problems using cheap stove outlets for EV charging. Generally the stove outlets weren't built to handle that high of voltage for 5,6,7, 8-12 hours at a time like an EV does. It would be similar to all burners on high and stove on boiler all night every night. A stove would rarely be used at that voltage and never for longer than a few minutes before being turned down if it was .

    • @davegibson4255
      @davegibson4255 10 місяців тому

      You don’t know what you are talking about they are the same size metals inside and have to be or would never pass UL listings and the voltage is the same it’s the current/amperage that sizes everything when it comes to wire gauge other than industrial commercial wire rated to 600volt and higher

  • @keithharrington8715
    @keithharrington8715 11 місяців тому +2

    Josh, you do a good job with your videos. On this one, i would like to stress several things.
    Since this is a subpanel install, the entire panel can be deenergized at the main panel. This should leave zero power in the panel. Yypu did what i would do, but like you i have a high electrical comfort level.
    You did this but did not stress it.....connect away from the panel first. This prevents anyone "helping" from powering the wires in your hand if they are not connected in the panel yet.
    Connecting the wires ground first, then neutral, then hots provides a small level of safety and is a prefered connection order.
    I will reference the 2020 code. Yes it updates every 3 years, so your jurisdiction may be several cycles behind and some requirements may not apply to your jurisdiction.
    Section 90.4 allows your local jurisdiction to accept all, some, or none, of the code. They can change requirements as they deem needed.
    Section 110.14. C. Electrical connections, temperature limits. Puts breakers 100 amps or less at the 60 °c rating for wire current unless the breaker is marked differently. This means the wire you use is rated under the 60° c column of the ampacity chart.(310.16). Yes, thhn is rated at the same as romex. The #6 copper wire is rated at 55 amps, not the thhn rating of 75 amps.
    210.8 (A) gfci protection for dwelling units has upped the voltage to 250 volts or less receptacles require gfci protection when in garages, laundry areas and accessory building at ground level and not a dwelling. Yes, welder and car receptacles.
    314.4 requires metal boxes be grounded.....yes the green screw. Again a safety feature, should the hot wires touch the metal box, it will cause the breaker to trip through the ground wire and prevent the metal plate covering it to be 120 volts.
    Now for the scary one. There is a seperate section for car charging (EVSE).section 625 with specific requirement.
    625.40 points to one outlet (charger) on one breaker.
    625.41 points to the circuit being 125% of the load. 40 amps of charging on a 50 amp circuit.
    625.54. This is the gfci protection if you install a receptacle.
    This is not a hard install as Josh has shown, just make sure you follow the rules. Good luck.

  • @rontiemens2553
    @rontiemens2553 Рік тому +3

    Excellent presentation by the Excellent Laborer!

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! I’ll try to make all of my videos, helpful and useful. I appreciate you watching.

  • @anthonyesparsen9453
    @anthonyesparsen9453 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm your code expert recently retired 25 year's of service 60,000 inspections under my belt

  • @yorkie1792
    @yorkie1792 10 місяців тому

    Thx. 29:49 was very helpful with all the supplies needed. No sure of the length of the 6'3 wire that I need

  • @andrewt9204
    @andrewt9204 8 місяців тому

    Really important to overstate that you should only use Hubbell or Bryant receptacles for EV charging.
    If your main use is EV charging and/or a welder, a 6-50 will be cheaper to wire. And if you're running conduit, could allow you to downsize or fit more circuits in there.
    Also, I think a lot of states have adopted the 2020 code now which requires all receptacles to have GFCI. And depending on the brand, holy are they expensive. Why I went with Siemens stuff, their 2-pole GFCI breakers are usually quite a bit cheaper. That and they're readily available at Menards/HD/Lowes.

    • @LuLu_World
      @LuLu_World 5 місяців тому

      2020 code does not require all recpt to be gfci protected

  • @anthonyesparsen9453
    @anthonyesparsen9453 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm seeing pretty much all you advising electrical outlet wiring with out basic requirements

  • @blove028
    @blove028 22 дні тому

    Fantastic Instruction! Thanks

  • @JRP3
    @JRP3 11 місяців тому

    The outlet you installed is self grounding, you can see the strip of metal going from the ground terminal to the face plate, so you don't need to connect the ground wire to the grounding screw of the box. That connection is created automatically when the outlet is attached to the box.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 11 місяців тому +2

      Given the Voltage and Amperage at play, even if it isn't a code violation, HIGHLY recommended you ground the receptacle as well as of course the box as required by code.

    • @JRP3
      @JRP3 11 місяців тому

      @@802Garage The box and outlet are already grounded when installed since it's self grounding, which is the shortest path to ground. Adding extra wire does nothing.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 11 місяців тому

      @@JRP3 No, the box is not grounded unless the EGC is bonded to the box, which is absolutely required by code unless the box is grounded by EMT conduit grounded at the supply panel. Read NEC 250.148 please. It is also against code to ground the box with the receptacle even if the receptacle has an EGC connected and is self-grounding. This would violate the ground continuity rule. As for doing nothing to bond both, the primary reasons to do so are increased ground capacity, which increases the chances of a circuit breaker trip if there ever is a ground fault, it keeps the receptacle grounded even when removed from the box in case power was accidentally not shut off or there was another wiring fault, it is a more reliable connection than the self-grounding connection in general in terms of clamping force, total area of connection, direct path to ground,orand inability to move, and that leads to the last point which is over time the receptacle could loosen from the box which will decrease the self-grounding contact or eliminate it entirely and it also leaves room for error during install where someone may not tighten the self-grounding receptacle all the way when they are trying to get a tidy flush fit. Bonding the box and the receptacle is common practice for added safety and there is essentially no downside since the required grounding wire is already present and long enough to be used. It also makes sense to use and leave the ground in tact in case a different piece of equipment is later installed in the box which does require a ground.

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... 11 місяців тому

      @@JRP3 Bullshit - What happens when the lid is lifted? Ground is disconnected, you idiot.
      So you think a metal strip held by cove plate fasteners (that can come loose or thread strip) is a low impedance path from the Ground terminal of the socket to ground/Earth?

  • @kmenzel5020
    @kmenzel5020 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant! Great information, and the clarity of the instructions is superb. Thank you for this video!!!!

  • @anthonyesparsen9453
    @anthonyesparsen9453 7 місяців тому +2

    Most of these new 220 outlets require gfci and maybe afci protection per nec

    • @Axelthetaxman
      @Axelthetaxman 2 місяці тому

      how many times are you going to repeat yourself?

  • @badbob
    @badbob 4 місяці тому +1

    Great Video. Well spoken and informative. Thanks for sharing as I enjoyed it very much.

  • @marif6598
    @marif6598 6 місяців тому

    You explained everything so well. Excellent video.

  • @pjdambra
    @pjdambra 10 місяців тому

    If you are using the Tesla Mobile Charger. Remember to mount the box a foot higher and orient the receptacle in the right direction so as the charger hangs straight down. Then you must support the charger itself so it doesn't disconnect the adapter from charger.

  • @jayjohns5653
    @jayjohns5653 6 місяців тому

    The ground wire should be wrapped around the ground screw clockwise so it gets pulled in when you tighten it rather than squished out. When you strip wires with a knife the blade must be more parallel the the wire to come in a shallow angle so you don't nick the wire which is like scoring a piece of glass. The wire will break at the nick if it is subjected to constant vibration like from a motor.

  • @stephen5147
    @stephen5147 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video. (when you're showing us a breaker, please hold it still... can't see it when you're shaking it)

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! I appreciate the feedback. I will take it in consideration. Stay tuned for more videos to come!

  • @tomsilva7324
    @tomsilva7324 14 днів тому

    Hi, can / should I install a 4 prong 240v to replace a 3 prong outlet that has no ground? I don't want to mess with swapping out a new stove's preinstalled 4 prong plug. Thanks!!

  • @sma92878
    @sma92878 Рік тому +3

    Your videos are amazing, awesome content.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! I appreciate all my subscribers as well. Take care!

  • @ronaldnaeyaert3653
    @ronaldnaeyaert3653 Рік тому +13

    Since the circuit is in the garage which is considered a wet space, the circuit breaker actually needs to be a GFCI breaker.
    The Hubble 14-50r is the best receptacle but Bryant has a clone of the Hubble at a significantly better price

    • @keithharrington8715
      @keithharrington8715 11 місяців тому +1

      Time to argue. GFCI protection is required under 625.54, sometime 2017 or earlier. Surely that supersedes cheaper 2 garage GFCI requirement of 2020.

    • @TrendyStone
      @TrendyStone Місяць тому

      Tesla specifically does NOT allow their Wall Connectors to be connected to a GFCI. That protection is built in. Their Wall Connector is designed for outdoor wet / winter use and the circuit protection is built into the car. If you use a GFCI you'll frequently get trips. I tried this at our Montana cabin with GFCI protection and it was super frustrating. This is a case where the code hasn't kept up with EV technology.

  • @michaeltablet8577
    @michaeltablet8577 Рік тому +2

    Your videos are always helpful. Thank you very much!

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому

      Fantastic! You are very welcome. I appreciate you watching my videos!

  • @Vxvx22
    @Vxvx22 22 дні тому

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @devontrebarlow5980
    @devontrebarlow5980 7 місяців тому

    Man thank you!! This was very informative and helpful! Exactly what I needed!! 💯

  • @novamaggart3251
    @novamaggart3251 Рік тому +4

    Excellent video. Would you mind sharing which torque screwdriver you used in this video? I did not see it mentioned in the list of tools used in this video. Thank you. Also, did you really torque the screws to 75 in-lbs?

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! I’m not sure the exact brand of the screwdriver because I borrowed it from a friend for this install. I had the dial pass 70 to get the torque which should be around 75 lbs. I hope that helps!

  • @dunckeroo1987
    @dunckeroo1987 9 місяців тому

    It's a good habit to run your 3 mains up the same side of the panel to reduce hum and noise. Your not seeking to use you panel as a one turn inductor or create a phantom voltage in your neutral. You likely don't hear these hums until you enter a big electrical room.

  • @CaRol-ul6rl
    @CaRol-ul6rl 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much , this is very easy way to follow . 5 stars forever.

  • @mostafa685
    @mostafa685 8 місяців тому

    There’s 2 concerns here with this installation.
    1. 6-3 Romex isn’t up to code for continuous load of 3+ hours. So dialing back the amps on the EVES below 40 amps takes care of that issue.
    2. Aluminum isn’t EVSE friendly, it’s a big point of failure. The aluminum used from the main panel to the sub could be an issue down the line.

  • @kennethdy3750
    @kennethdy3750 2 місяці тому

    With a finished wall, I have one electrician saying he was to cut the drywall to access the breaker and another saying he can access it without drywall changes. Wiring to the box via crawl space.

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 Рік тому

    I would install the 14-50 with the round earth ground down. The EVSE provided with the Chevrolet Bolt has the round pin down, so the cable hangs down when plugged in. Otherwise, I would need a shelf above the outlet, because the cable would point up, rather than dangle down. The cable between the plug and the EVSE box is only~12 inches, making it difficult, if it can't just hang down.

    • @JRP3
      @JRP3 11 місяців тому +1

      Depends on the vehicle, Tesla EVSE has the ground pin on top.

  • @thomaslopez155
    @thomaslopez155 7 місяців тому

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  • @fuegoman45
    @fuegoman45 Рік тому +5

    Great stuff as always!! Thanks brother 🤙

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому +1

      Thanks a lot for tuning into the new video! You are welcome. Take care!

  • @optech69
    @optech69 6 місяців тому

    Excellent. Thank you for lending your genius.

  • @Kiwi-rf4jv
    @Kiwi-rf4jv 4 дні тому

    I have a question, when opening the electrical panel, how do I know where the Circuit Breaker is placed to get 240v power, or can you place the Circuit Breaker anywhere, (if the 240v Circuit Breaker will give 240v power and the 110v Circuit Breaker will give 110v power.)

  • @AdamS-lh2ug
    @AdamS-lh2ug Рік тому

    Strip your wires before you put your wire through your connectors/boxes. You’ll get a cleaner look and it’s easier and faster. Code is 6” from the back of the box or minimum 3” from the front if you have some seriously deep box.

  • @Youtuberkt
    @Youtuberkt 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video and presentation!

  • @ViktorVargas-jw2ut
    @ViktorVargas-jw2ut 7 місяців тому

    Great video u literally walked thru every step very helpful

  • @zmurray9499
    @zmurray9499 3 дні тому

    Excellent video...👍🏼

  • @robertduncan2742
    @robertduncan2742 22 години тому

    Hows a 240v plug be reduced to 120v to use a harbor freight mig welder. Its tied in from the box in the area using a double 30 amp fuze disconnect.

  • @gerardosalvador6513
    @gerardosalvador6513 4 місяці тому +1

    Very helpful video. Thank you for sharing.👍

  • @cypvh74
    @cypvh74 25 днів тому

    Thought this kind of circuit/wire require being run through conduit?

  • @ginjeff
    @ginjeff 10 місяців тому

    625.54 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel.
    In addition to the requirements in 210.8, all receptacles installed for the connection of electric vehicle charging shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli 9 місяців тому +2

    I was disappointed that the torque screw driver was not listed in this video or on you Amazon parts page.

  • @adolfolopez5772
    @adolfolopez5772 7 місяців тому

    Muchas gracias siempre veo tus videos.saludos from Norwalk california.

  • @jbreshLSU
    @jbreshLSU 4 дні тому

    So what is standard practice….install receptacle ground up or ground down?

  • @175726
    @175726 4 місяці тому +1

    Great job on the video, I learned a lot!!!

  • @cshellcheryl
    @cshellcheryl Місяць тому

    Question, I was just told we going to need a electrician for 240 volts dryer but our last one was 220 volts

  • @leagarner3675
    @leagarner3675 Рік тому +2

    Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks!

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Рік тому

      Excellent I’m glad the video was helpful for you! Thanks for watching!

  • @ChargePointnet
    @ChargePointnet 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey, thanks for the shoutout ⚡We make home charging simple and easy for every EV!

  • @charliefraser793
    @charliefraser793 Рік тому +4

    Nice job hard worker

  • @davidluu6288
    @davidluu6288 2 місяці тому +1

    Very good video, thank you !