How To Install A 240V Outlet In Garage - EV Car Charger, Welder, And Electric Range (Hubbell 14 50)
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- In this video, I show you how to install a 240 volt outlet in a garage. This 240 volt outlet is also known as the 220 volt outlet for charging an EV car charger, welder, or even an electric range oven. A EV charger requires a 14 50 for a 50 amp outlet. I compare the Hubble 14-50 vs the Leviton 14 50 outlet. #electrical #tesla #diy
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Timestamps
Intro 00:00
NEMA Outlets Explained 00:28
240 Volt Supplies 04:14
6/3 Wire Rough In 06:53
Metal Electrical Box Installation 08:13
NEMA 14-50 Outlet Options 11:10
240V Outlet Installation 14:45
Connecting 6/3 Wire To Panel 21:04
50 AMP Breaker Installation 24:37
240V EV Car Charging 27:38
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NEMA Outlets Explained 00:28
240 Volt Supplies 04:14
6/3 Wire Rough In 06:53
Metal Electrical Box Installation 08:13
NEMA 14-50 Outlet Options 11:10
240V Outlet Installation 14:45
Connecting 6/3 Wire To Panel 21:04
50 AMP Breaker Installation 24:37
240V EV Car Charging 27:38
Which one is needed for split air heat pump that says it needs 220V? Eg LG?
Can I use a 2/0 2/0 2/0 wire to run a range or stove
Where is the Ground Fault protection ?
Don’t wrap your ground counter-clockwise like he did in this video. If you watch closely as he tightens the ground screw it pushes the wire out of the screw. ALWAYS go clockwise when you wrap your wires. This goes for receptacles, and literally everything you wire.
Very true, I was about to say something about that as well.
Yep.... one of the first things pointed out to me when first learning to wire recepticles
If you noticed, it's a loop, not a hook. Therefore, it's "wrapped" in both directions. Even if he wrapped it the other way to make the loop, it would be the same U shape around the ground screw. Think about the physics. What he did is just fine. The only difference is which side of the loop gets wound tighter and which side gets loosened slightly. You could argue it's slightly better to have the length going to the receptacle tighter because it's going to get moved around, but in practice it will likely have the same impact either way.
Or use the pre-made ground tail and "pigtail" your grounds together
@@802Garage Bullshit. As the faster tightens it naturally unwinds the loop. Any movement has the wire detach.The terminal is of such poor design, having no means of restraining wire moving from under the fastener.
Every trade qualified professional electrician knows this... yet you think it's all A-OK.
What a great set of instructional videos. Very easy to follow.
I make all of my videos straight to the point and step-by-step. I’m glad you found them helpful. Good luck with your project!
I think this was the clearest, well explained video I've ever seen on UA-cam. Keep it up. Thanks!
I really appreciate how thorough you describe each step. Your a great instructor. Just what I needed. Shalom
A VERY CLEAR demonstration video! Good job! The only omission, however, is that the 2-pole breaker MUST be a GFCI-type breaker per NEC® 210.8(A)(2) and 625.22. Any personnel protection against ground faults internal to the EVSE protects SOLELY the EVSE OUTPUT CORD to the EV but NOT the EVSE INPUT CORD from the NEMA 14-50R receptacle to the EVSE. (Technically that GFCI-type breaker would eliminate the need for refund GFCI protection integral to the EVSE UNLESS the EVSE performs power conversion [nearly all DO NOT convert]).
- Brian Rock, Hubbell Incorporated,
I also serve as a CMP-2 and a CMP-15 Member but this is strictly my own position (not NEMA’s and not NFPA’s)
I also am one of the 7 co-authors of the original (1996) NEC® Article 625 for Electrical Power Research Institute (EPRI).
Brian, I'm in the middle of wiring my detached garage right now, and am having some trouble figuring this one out. It seems that the manufacturer specifies NOT to use a GFCI outlet for an EVSE 40 amp charger (50 amp breaker), and that the EVSE has GFCI built in. That said, I note your comment above regarding input/output. My issue here is that these chargers are known to trip a GFCI outlet or breaker, much like a tredmill does. What is the work around here in order to have a reliable appliance and meet code? My charger is corded - specifically a JuiceBox Pro 40 model and I id wire it into a external waterproof housing containing the NEMA 14-50.
For that matter - any recommendation for wiring in a treadmill in a detached garage as well? I plan to dedicate an outlet for this and wiring it straight to the panel on a non-GFCI/AFCI breaker.
Any suggestions?
I just want to caution everyone that using NM cable for this circuit limits you to the 60 degree column for Ampacity (NEC 334.80), that's 55A here. Furthermore, maximum current based on a continuous load should be no more than 40A's on this circuit since 125% x 40 = 50A. Therefore, never plug a 48A smart charger into this receptacle as some homeowners down the road may do and perhaps label the receptacle to say 40A MAX if you are going to use these 32A mobile charging cords. Note: even if you use 6AWG THHN rated at 90 degrees, your receptacle can only be used for less than 50 Amps. For me personally, I don't even install receptacles anymore for EV's, as they were just never designed for these high and continuous loads over periods of 8 hours or more. Also consider the constant unplugging and plugging in at the receptacle; your terminals will be lose in no time with a chance for arcing and a fire very high. Buy a hardwired smart charger instead and have it installed by a licensed and insured professional!
"Also consider the constant unplugging and plugging in at the receptacle" Good guidance however this part wouldn't happen as the charger would get plugged into the outlet and left there. No different than a dryer or other appliance.
The ev chargers are 240 volt, no neutral necessary. They also are required to be gfci protected
You make great videos man, highly informative and easy to understand. Greatly appreciate you doing the work and teaching the rest of us. Keep up the great work bro 👍🏻
Nice job. In reference to the outlet placement for stoves, I recommend reviewing the stove install instructions. There is normally a diagram for the placement for the outlet. I really enjoy your channel.
On that ground wire I usually bend it in a u-shaped so there's more surface, and that 75 inch pounds. Which calculates into 6 foot pounds.
Great video. One of the best I've seen. Just call it 240v. In 38 years I've never measured 110v or 220v. All voltage is nominal from the power company, but they have been supplying higher voltages for my entire life
Exactly! I'm tired of people still using the terms 110v/220v, when it doesn't exist and hasn't for a whole lot of decades.
Dude you just saved/made me thousands of dollars you are the MAN.
Awesome! I’m glad I can help. Good luck with the rest of your projects!
Excellent step by step explanations and instructions. Thank you!
Another video where you show what an excellent instructor you are Jost. Lots of detail, clear explanations but yet you keep it moving. I will say that in the elec business a 50A range outlet is x dollars but if you say it''s for an EV it always seems to be 2x dollars lol. Good explanation of why an industrial grade plug is worth the extra money. Thanks for sharing your skills and knowledge!
I’ll give him credit for that. It’s worth the extra money for quality plugs.
You explained everything so well. Excellent video.
Man thank you!! This was very informative and helpful! Exactly what I needed!! 💯
Great video u literally walked thru every step very helpful
Your videos are always helpful. Thank you very much!
Fantastic! You are very welcome. I appreciate you watching my videos!
Great job. Appreciate the overview and detail
Excellent presentation by the Excellent Laborer!
Thank you so much! I’ll try to make all of my videos, helpful and useful. I appreciate you watching.
Extremely well done!
thanks for the awesome video , very thorough and simple!!!!
Nice explanation. Thanks I just learned, how to wire a 240..
Great stuff as always!! Thanks brother 🤙
Thanks a lot for tuning into the new video! You are welcome. Take care!
Good for you for grounding the outlet box. Too many UA-cam experts fail to do that.
I always ground my metal boxes. Thanks!
Yes, but he ran the wirec ounterclockwise around the screw. Much more likely to work loose.
I'm now gonna like this video because it was detailed and informative
Awesome installation covers everything
I'm by no means an electrician, but have Don electrical work and taught by some great electricians. I was always taught when tightening wires against a box to route the wire in the same direction the wire tightens. That way the screw doesn't push the wire out, it draws it in. Use wire strippers not knives especially razor blades. When tightening lugs, tighten, back of, tighten, back off then torque. Also anytime adding new wire to a panel to kill main power. The person who taught me had a saying. The day you get complacent is the day you will get hurt or killed.
" I was always taught when tightening wires against a box to route the wire in the same direction the wire tightens" - When the wire is completely looped IE: out of cable, around screw, then into receptacle... it doesn't matter. Looping clockwise only matters on an open ended (cut) "hook" loop of wire.
or get the proper PPE, tho turning off breaker is cheaper.
your videos are so well done and informational. Keep up the great job!
Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks!
Excellent I’m glad the video was helpful for you! Thanks for watching!
Great Video and information . Thank you for sharing
Production quality on your videos, your instruction, your concise communication and your overall knowledge are all very impressive.
I'm going for a career change at 32, and have been watching all of your electrical videos ahead of getting an apprenticeship.
Thanks a ton for these
Super great video. Thanks a lot.
Thanks God bless outstanding work.Bottom line.
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Excellent job on this video!
Thank you Fantastic video.
Thx. 29:49 was very helpful with all the supplies needed. No sure of the length of the 6'3 wire that I need
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Also, if you have side cutters or really your strippers, you can score the romex and rip it without damaging the wires, you get a much cleaner look in your panel. Strip your wires before going into the panel.
Excellent. Thank you for lending your genius.
Excellent video and presentation!
I’m really glad to hear this. Thanks a lot!
Thank You. very helpful.
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Awesome and detailed video as always Josh. Thanks a lot. Was going through your kitchen cabinets video recently and have a question. What is their material ? (MDF/Plywood/Chipboard/Solid wood etc.)
Very well explained
Thank you, Greg!
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Excellent video, man.
Thank you for your knowledge. I wish I could worK
with you and learn all you know.
You are welcome. I’m glad you’re finding my content helpful. I make videos on everything I do DIY. If you watch my videos, you’ll learn most of everything I know. Stay tuned for more!
Josh, excellent descriptive YT video on installing a 50 amp outlet for a EV charger. I would let the viewers know that the 6 nomenclature on the 6-3 wire stands for the AWG or gauge of wire needed to withstand the 50 amp current draw.
Thanks a lot, Dan! I did explain what AWG was in my last video. You’re right, I would have not heard to mention it again. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Josh another great video. Just want to know if you have the link for the torque screwdriver? 👍
I have watched A LOT of these tutorials and done A TON of research into the actual code provisions pertaining to 240V receptacle installs. This is the first video I can point to that is essentially mistake and code violation free. The only exception being GFCI protection, but we all understand why you didn't go that route, hahaha. Awesome job! Will be my go to video to share with others looking for good info.
I always try to make my videos as accurate as possible. I’m glad you enjoyed this installation. Thanks for watching!
Your wrong about the "mistake free" content here.
@@BTW... Point out the mistake then or your comment is completely worthless.
Clearly it is more than just meeting code. See my post on the use of the knife to strip the wires.
@@deang5622 I'm not going to go through the entire comments section to find your specific post. If your biggest issue with this video is how he strips off the wire sheathing, I rest my case. You'd be friggin' amazed to see how many electricians do it. 99% of DIY people watching this video are not going to have Romex strippers. This is one of the best and most complete videos on the topic for sure. You can find something wrong with anything if you try hard enough. Nobody is going to have every single piece of information perfect and give every piece of advice possible.
I am now gonna give u 5 ⭐️ for this video
I thought the video was well done. You were precise and step by step. Sure, you always wrap a wire the way the screw screws in and I usually use a wire stripper in stead of a utility knife to strip the casing but still a well done video. Thanks.
Don't forget follow local NEC codes where gfci and arcfault protection may be required
Excellent video instruction of how to rough-in and install a 240 v outlet. This was extremely thorough and very concise. I feel confident that I could now undertake this work on my own.
The only two questions I still have are;
1). What size mudring should be used depending on the thickness of the drywall? and
2). Why not use a two gang box to eliminate the need for the mudring?
I think part of the answer is what you said about the mudring providing more room in the ox. I get that there is only one device and not two switches or outlets that would require a two gang box but the two gang has the four ears or tabs you'd need to secure the device to the box. Is this just a preference thing or is there another reason for this?
These are sincere questions. I'm not being critical. I know enough to be dangerous and just like to have all of the information before undertaking work. Either way, I'm going to follow your lead thinking that if it's good for your house... then, it's good for mine. I'm asking in the event you respond before I've started / completed the work.
Thanks in advance and all the best to you. Keep up the good work. 👍
Your description should had said how to Install a 120/240 EV Charging circuit. In most units the neutral Is not needed but good to have for future use.
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13:30 Like you said not all NEMA 14-50 outlets are the same, I would add that the duty cycle of an EV charger can be drawing 50 amps continuously where a standard range outlet was designed to handle the intermittent duty cycle of a range.
Yes, good point! The long term continuous draw justifies having an industrial grade outlet versus a range outlet. Thanks for your input!
I installed mine the same way with the same receptical concerns. I also under sized my load to 40 amps because I was concerned about heat created by impedence with such a continuous draw over a 2-3 hour period. I used romex 6/3 due to electrical code but I think that other cables may be better at heat dissipation.
Nice explanation
Thanks for the great video @theexcellentlaborer
In my main panel there is only ONE bar, don’t have separate for ground and neutral. Can I connect both the wires on this single bar at random empty space? Please guide. Thanks
Great job.
I'm your code expert recently retired 25 year's of service 60,000 inspections under my belt
Thanks for your channel
Just learned a new skill. Thank you and you earned yourself a sub and a thank you.
Thank you for the video. Can you provide the link to the cover at 5:38 what will work on the Hubbell 14-50 Outlet?
Excellent video and explanations. Technically you installed a 120/240 volt outlet. For those that do not want to spend $90 for the receptacle, Bryant (owned by Hubbell) same exact device is approximately half price. Why cheaper? If Hubbell can get named in the specifications for a large project, then higher profit. They bought Bridgeport out in 1991 which makes the Bryant devices. Never use cheap receptacles for car chargers. They overheat.
they did not buy bridgeport. bryant was located in bpt ct
Thank you for the great video! I just have a concern about the Leviton 14-50 Plug used. I keep seeing vidoes of how bad of a plug it is and it causes fires. A lot of folks including Tesla is saying to use Hubbel or a Bryant Plugs instead. I just wanted to get you thoughts on it.
Great! Much thanks.
I have a wood lathe that runs on 220v. I have moved it to a better location in shop, unfortunately the power cable will not reach it now. The lathe now is 6fr from the existing outlet. Can I daisy chain from the existing location to the new receptacle or home run from power panel. I never run any of my 220v machines at the same time. I would appreciate your thought, and I am a new subscriber…. Enjoy your excellent videos
Excellent video. Would you mind sharing which torque screwdriver you used in this video? I did not see it mentioned in the list of tools used in this video. Thank you. Also, did you really torque the screws to 75 in-lbs?
Thank you! I’m not sure the exact brand of the screwdriver because I borrowed it from a friend for this install. I had the dial pass 70 to get the torque which should be around 75 lbs. I hope that helps!
Thank you!
You are welcome!
Thanks!
I appreciate the support!
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Thanks for telling me about doing the wiggle Tighten wiggle tighten thing you might just be a lifesaver
Excellent.
I appreciate that!
Recent code revisions require GFCI outdoor or in garages above 20A but that is only for branch circuits (welder, range, EV charger) but it is not allowed on feeder circuits (RV outlet--anything with a subpanel). The same 14-50P could be either.
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Nice job hard worker
Thank you for the nice compliment!
@@TheExcellentLaborer your welcome your nice guy
I am now going to like this video
I'm seeing pretty much all you advising electrical outlet wiring with out basic requirements
When connecting your ground to the box didn't go in clock wise direction so the wire got loose. Always go clockwise (not counterclockwise) when turning a screw into any wire terminal. In order to ensure the wire got taken not loosed
Very Good.
Thank you!
I was tought too wrap wires clockwise around screws so they stayed tight and didn't spread out. It just works better. Torque is rated in inch or foot pounds. The wire screws are tightened too INCH pounds.
Great information video. I notice 1 mistake and that was you installed the 3/4 cable clamp backward. The screws for the clamp has to be inside the box. This is because incase in future they need to get more wire inside box on a finished wall they can loosen the screws and pull some wire inside the box.
Wrong. Two screw connectors should have the screws on outside of the box. Don't think inspectors like your way. With NMB cable stapled within 12" of a box next to impossible to pull in more wire.
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp lol please dont make things up out of the blue. This has nothing to do with the inspector, this is about the design engineering and proper function. First of all it doesnt matter what inspector likes or doesnt like. As per code, a cable must be secured to the box by the method the manufacturer of device/fastener has specified. 2nd of all, USUALLY (but not a requirement), a GOOD electrician will leave a slack of wire in the form of S between the box and the staple. A house lives for 100 years and during this time if someone mess up wires when connecting the devices, they'd have the option to pull in some slack into the box.
A good example of this is the plastic push-in connectors for NMD wires where you can pull wires into box but not out.
2nd example is the regular NMD respectable boxes with the screw inside the box to secure the cable.
Did you ever have a job inspected? The inspector or AHJ has the final say. With 12/2 costing what a $1 a foot a little over a year ago no electrician will install stupid money wasting S bends for cables entering a box. The NEC mandates a support within 12" of boxes feed with NMB cable so that makes it very difficult to make a S bend and provide the 12" support. Metal box manufacturers never supplied type of connector to be used in their boxes. There are over a quarter Millon words in the NEC and hundreds of exceptions to all of the articles and like I have been told at the over 100 continuing education classes that I attended to renew my electrical license is if you ask 3 inspectors you might get 4 answers. The few times that I objected to an hick prima Donna only inspector in a little town that attempted to write me up for code violations I won out. Best was after my inspector passed a job local hick tried to I give me a violation for making a single splice on a 14 gauge wire inside if a circuit breaker panel. After I gave him the NEC article that allows it told me that he would let me get away with it that time. After many years still learning.
@@JohnThomas-lq5qp I do agree with you... with the copper prices after Covid no one is doing that S thing anymore. I learned that when I was a kid doing construction jobs here and there. But we do electrical cabinets for manufacturing segments. Complying with residential codes is child's play compare to industrial codes and regulations. I personally done 2 full basements and 3 house renovations jobs so far... maybe I was lucky I haven't had a jerk for a inspector... and yes like you said there been time when the inspector has said "you can't do this" and I told him yes I can and here's what the code says and then he would ok ok fine but I wouldnt do it like that... and moved on to the next item... inspectors just verify your are up to the code and if your are then it doesn't matter what he personally feels about your job.
What led me to this video was out of frustration in fitting a 14-50 receptacle in a 2-gang box. Usually a 4-11/16 box is used like the oven. But I wanted to minimize the drywall damage in the already finished garage and the fact that the receptacle bag said use a 2-gang box. Now when I was trying to wire 6/3 cable to it and intall it, the receptacle plate bent. So I wanted to see how others do this 😅. Anyways I cut the wires much shorter and pre bent wires and that still was hard to install but it went in fine.
Just to be clear, Torque specs are in inch pounds not foot lbs. Also, it's best practice to use a proper wire stripper instead of a razor blade, that way you won't risk nicking the conductor with the razor blade.
As an Automotive Technician I noticed that mistake too. Inch pounds and Foot pounds are two different tightening specifications.
Newton-meters, too. And in my industry (aviation), there are approved wire strippers that must be used to avoid the likelihood of a violation. I'm surprised how many youtube experts use what would be unapproved tools to strip and crimp wires. Those tools are not excessively expensive, and with them it's almost impossible to harm the wiring or make a connection that is subject to loosening and arcing/catching fire. . .if it's good for a Boeing it's great for my house and vehicle.
I thought that was weird too, coming from an electrician. No way you can get 75 foot pounds of torque with torque screwdriver.
@@Resist4 he didn't say "Foot" or "Inch," just "Pounds," which is meaningless measuring torque. However, given that size torque driver, I'd assume it's an inch-lb device.
@@paulcrumley9756 True, but since this was a how to video he should have not just said pounds.
Don't bypass your NEC requirements for new 220 install requirements like GFCI/arc fault per 218.8,210.12
I followed the example precisely, testing the outlet with a multimeter revealed 110 volts on both neutral/ground and hot (black or red) independently, and 240 volts across. However, when I plugged in my Tesla mobile connector, it initially seems to receive electricity, but then displays a red 'T'. Any idea what I might be doing wrong
I want to run one of these 6/3 14-50 plugs outside for an RV Do I use Metal conduit or Plastic?
~ I liked the Video Bruh... easy to follow & very informative ....
Good job. Love the video. how did you estimate the length of the run so good. You had a drawing to work from or you just use a tape measure and guestimate?
Thanks! I’m glad you love the video. I use a 100 foot tape and then run it where the wire will be installed. I simply just use that measurement to buy the length of wire. I hope that helps!
Thanks for the response. @@TheExcellentLaborer
Is the ground wire still connected to the box? It looks like it’s no longer connected when you started connecting it to the plug.
Can I run a 14 awg on a 6-20r? I know 12 is what it needs but I'm wondering since The EV charger will only be pulling 16amps. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. Getting ready to install 14-30 generator inlet and process will be similar.
You are welcome! Oh yeah, definitely similar. Good luck with your project!
If I want to put in an oven and a dryer those have to be 2 separate 240 V circuits correct?
Is it code to use the 6/3 exposed on surface mount?
what does it mean if it says 230v? I want to install a 230v mini split using my 50 amp rv park plug since I have the rv plugged into the 30 amp. Would this work?
For a range, it is probably better to install under 8 inches to accommodate for standard or short drawer space -- that is the space behind the drawer that provides space for the plug. You might want to face the ground towards left or right -- some cords have the ground up and some have the ground down, and you want the loop to slide back in easy.