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Freelance eSports Caster/Analyst and Former OWCS Coach || Making Overwatch easy for everyone to understand!
What do Hero Bans mean for Pro Overwatch? - 2025 Season Guide
IMPORTANT: LAN Events have been confirmed 1 hour before I planned on posting this video (of course LOL). 1st LAN Hangzhou, China - 2nd LAN Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - 3rd LAN Stockholm, Sweden. This also means Chinese OW is confirmed and that the 3rd LAN is the only one I got incorrect! I honestly wish I was incorrect about #2, this is a really bad look for Overwatch.
UPDATE #2: 2 Teams will qualify per region. 2 NA, 2 EMEA, 2 China, 2 Asia
🏳️⚧️ she/her ♡ I am a Caster/Analyst and former OWCS Coach that has worked with teams such as War Pigs and Deimpero/Quick eSports. My goal is to make Professional Overwatch approachable to the average player, and teach the basics along the way!
Timestamps
0:00 Hero Bans
6:16 Map Pool
10:43 Partner System
15:36 Stage 1 Format
19:22 Asia Format
21:32 LAN Events
Saudi Arabia:
freedomhouse.org/country/saudi-arabia/freedom-world/2023
www.state.gov/reports/2023-report-on-international-religious-freedom/saudi-arabia/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
POV Footage: www.youtube.com/@ObsSojourn
(Thank you so much ObsSojourn!!!)
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Tags: Hazard Overwatch, Overwatch Meta, Overwatch Season 14, Pro Overwatch, Overwatch Korea, Soop Cup, OWCS, OWCS Korea, Lucio Overwatch, Kiriko Overwatch, Tracer Overwatch, Genji Overwatch, Hero Bans, Overwatch esports, Overwatch competitive, Season 14 Overwatch, Overwatch pro tips, Korean Overwatch, OWCS highlights, Overwatch DPS meta, Overwatch Hero Bans, Kiriko guide, Tracer gameplay, Genji montage, Overwatch strategies, OWCS Korea 2024, Overwatch heroes, Overwatch patch notes.
UPDATE #2: 2 Teams will qualify per region. 2 NA, 2 EMEA, 2 China, 2 Asia
🏳️⚧️ she/her ♡ I am a Caster/Analyst and former OWCS Coach that has worked with teams such as War Pigs and Deimpero/Quick eSports. My goal is to make Professional Overwatch approachable to the average player, and teach the basics along the way!
Timestamps
0:00 Hero Bans
6:16 Map Pool
10:43 Partner System
15:36 Stage 1 Format
19:22 Asia Format
21:32 LAN Events
Saudi Arabia:
freedomhouse.org/country/saudi-arabia/freedom-world/2023
www.state.gov/reports/2023-report-on-international-religious-freedom/saudi-arabia/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
POV Footage: www.youtube.com/@ObsSojourn
(Thank you so much ObsSojourn!!!)
Early Video Access (Kofi): ko-fi.com/coachocie
Ocie Zero (2nd Channel): www.youtube.com/@OcieZero
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/ocie_casts
Discord Community: discord.gg/JXDZyDfjRu
Tags: Hazard Overwatch, Overwatch Meta, Overwatch Season 14, Pro Overwatch, Overwatch Korea, Soop Cup, OWCS, OWCS Korea, Lucio Overwatch, Kiriko Overwatch, Tracer Overwatch, Genji Overwatch, Hero Bans, Overwatch esports, Overwatch competitive, Season 14 Overwatch, Overwatch pro tips, Korean Overwatch, OWCS highlights, Overwatch DPS meta, Overwatch Hero Bans, Kiriko guide, Tracer gameplay, Genji montage, Overwatch strategies, OWCS Korea 2024, Overwatch heroes, Overwatch patch notes.
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Why Hazard is DOMINATING Korean Overwatch
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🏳️⚧️ she/her ♡ I am a Caster/Analyst and former OWCS Coach that has worked with teams such as War Pigs and Deimpero/Quick eSports. My goal is to make Professional Overwatch approachable to the average player, and teach the basics along the way! POV Footage: www.youtube.com/@ObsSojourn (Thank you so much ObsSojourn!!!) Match VOD - Credit: WDG/Soop: vod.sooplive.co.kr/player/145385997 Early Vide...
Why NRG Shock's Junkerqueen was So Effective
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🏳️⚧️ she/her ♡ I am a Former Professional Coach that has worked with teams such as War Pigs and Deimpero/Quick eSports. My goal is to bring my pro-team knowledge into the hands of players, and become one of the best educational creators on social platforms. If you want to follow me and keep updated, make sure to check out my other socials or my Discord. Interview with Infekted: www.youtube.com...
How Toronto's Genji Overcame a Hitscan God - Pro Overwatch Analysis
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How Toronto's Genji Overcame a Hitscan God - Pro Overwatch Analysis
How Junkerqueen Beat the Brig+Juno Backline - Japan's Most Talented Tank Player
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How Junkerqueen Beat the Brig Juno Backline - Japan's Most Talented Tank Player
How Cjay Dominated on Juno in OWCS - The Best Juno Player in North America
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How Cjay Dominated on Juno in OWCS - The Best Juno Player in North America
How Ashe's BOB was deleted by a Mei Wall - Zeta Division & AlphaYi Analysis
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How Ashe's BOB was deleted by a Mei Wall - Zeta Division & AlphaYi Analysis
The Team that Brought Brig Zen BACK - How Poker Face Rolled Team Falcons
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The Team that Brought Brig Zen BACK - How Poker Face Rolled Team Falcons
How NRG Full Held the Strongest Team in North America
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How NRG Full Held the Strongest Team in North America
Why Brigitte is FINALLY Viable in Brawl - The Juno+Brig Backline
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Why Brigitte is FINALLY Viable in Brawl - The Juno Brig Backline
Why Juno is Hard Meta - The Most Aggressive Backline in Overwatch
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Why Juno is Hard Meta - The Most Aggressive Backline in Overwatch
Why Supports AREN'T Organized by Healing - Main & Flex Support Explained
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Why Supports AREN'T Organized by Healing - Main & Flex Support Explained
How PGE Died 22 Times (And Won?) - PGE's Bizarre Adventure
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How PGE Died 22 Times (And Won?) - PGE's Bizarre Adventure
Juno was Designed to Fail, Here's Why
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Juno was Designed to Fail, Here's Why
How Pro Players make HUGE MISTAKES - Fnatic's Colosseo Reversal
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How Pro Players make HUGE MISTAKES - Fnatic's Colosseo Reversal
How to make an Ana Flank Work - Overwatch Micro Plays
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How to make an Ana Flank Work - Overwatch Micro Plays
The Secrets Behind a Reliable Baptiste - The Key to SSG's Brawl
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The Secrets Behind a Reliable Baptiste - The Key to SSG's Brawl
Why DVA doesn't Counter Winston - Toronto Defiant's Unbreakable Defense
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Why DVA doesn't Counter Winston - Toronto Defiant's Unbreakable Defense
Roadhog in Professional Play?!? - Junbin's Tank Gambit
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Roadhog in Professional Play?!? - Junbin's Tank Gambit
Overwatch eSports is Failing. Here's Why.
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Overwatch eSports is Failing. Here's Why.
The BEST Cassidy in the World? - Xzodyal's Upset vs SSG
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The BEST Cassidy in the World? - Xzodyal's Upset vs SSG
FDGod's Tactical Boops: The Key to Defeating Twisted Minds - Pro Overwatch Analysis
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FDGod's Tactical Boops: The Key to Defeating Twisted Minds - Pro Overwatch Analysis
PGE's Massive 5k Outplay - How NRG Shock Dismantled TSM
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PGE's Massive 5k Outplay - How NRG Shock Dismantled TSM
Sauna's Tracer Masterclass: How Ataraxia Outpaced the Best of EMEA - Pro Overwatch Analysis
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Sauna's Tracer Masterclass: How Ataraxia Outpaced the Best of EMEA - Pro Overwatch Analysis
Deconstructing a Fatal Spawnhold: Pro Overwatch Analysis
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Deconstructing a Fatal Spawnhold: Pro Overwatch Analysis
MASSIVE Tank Buffs & Losers Queue Patched? - OW2 Season 10 Midseason Patch
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MASSIVE Tank Buffs & Losers Queue Patched? - OW2 Season 10 Midseason Patch
Adapting to Twisted Minds with Reinhardt - Pro Overwatch Analysis
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Adapting to Twisted Minds with Reinhardt - Pro Overwatch Analysis
Adapting to a New Meta - Pro Overwatch Analysis & Inside Look
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Adapting to a New Meta - Pro Overwatch Analysis & Inside Look
Can you make a video on what each hero's job is in the comp?
Bro people still play this game 🤮
Ughh... I can't stand 'metas'. Just play who you want.
late reply to this but I assume Juno is a flex since her best comp is with Brig, and typically the Ana Juno comp that was super popular when she launched was really greed, which is typical of double flex? (although interesting since the person who plays Juno is often confusing since, going off the Korean teams, using CR for example, Chorong played the Main while Shu did the Juno, but with team falcons, unless Fielder is EXTREMELY flexible, the flex player playing Brig while Chiyo, the Main support, played Juno, so im honestly super confused for her position)
Yes, I'd say Juno lands more in the Flex category. Right now a mix of MS and FS players play her at the professional level, but since the best Juno compositions have been Juno Brig (and now Juno Lucio with Hazard) it seems she has fallen moreso into the FS role. She is one of those weird cases though where she's good with other Flex Supports as well! As more Supports are added I expect the roles to diminish in importance, hero bans at pro level will also do that. The only reason MS and FS were so defined and often used was because the game was barely updated back in OW1, so the roles stuck. I expect that to slowly change.
why does some lucios punches while jumping? Does it extend the jump?
15:48 9 players is a lot mate
this is huge for the 50 remaining players
This part was amazing to watch.
Cuz he’s op as hell, nerf him or it’s just gonna Hazardwatch
I FUCKING HATE OVERWATCH WHY AM I GETTING THIS SHIT IN MY YT SHORTS
I feel like people who are upset are js one-tricks tbh
This is one of the worst versions of hero bans I’ve seen in a video game 😂 come on blizzard Edit: ok not one of, this is THE worst
Hot take: Hazard has been the most fun hero since the release of ow 2. (Maybe JQ cause hitting knives is satysfying) that being said once again another hero I will struggle with on console cause he has so many buttons lmao to press
Hi coach, I love your videos but sometimes the team fights can be confusing to understand holistically due to frequently cutting to player povs rather than the VOD reviews on stream which is much more about top-down high-level view. I think it would be easier to learn from these team fights if there was more time to understand the big picture and then use player povs to just look at the key micros. This is just my opinion as one viewer tho. Keep it up!
This is something that is sometimes difficult or even unachievable due to replay code wipes. In the case of this video I barely had enough time to grab the POVs before the replays were wiped, and if I do overhead shots, it's during the editing process. Codes had been dead for 3-4 days by that point. It's something I sometimes do if there is an opportunity, but trying to rush videos out along with the replay code schedule to get overhead shots is sometimes hard, and sometimes completely impossible.
I dont wanna play any of them
If main supports were based on meta patterns then why are mercy and lifeweaver called main supports if they're basically useless, as you say?
Because Mercy was used at one point in conjunction with Flex Supports when she was overtuned, and Lifeweaver's only use has been with Baptiste and Illari, both Flex Supports. Lifeweaver has been used, but super rarely and with weird cheese strats that typically failed anyways. The best Lifeweaver player who tried to play him in professional play is Rakattack, a Main Support player. The 2nd best is Ch0rong, the best Main Support player in the world.
Summary for those who need it: 1. Get to flank or backline asap, which may mean going through the middle 2. Prioritize squishies and low hp enemies, but shoot as often as possible because you distract the enemy and charge your ult 3. With recall, you should play more risky, like diving the squishies even when they’re protected by their team 4. Without recall, tickle the enemy to make them turn around and give your team free hits. Always use cover 5. Fight your instinct to run to your team, just find a medkit and stay within attack range, preferably behind the enemy. Also, escape is easier with your blinks 6. Use pulse bomb asap
thanks for this vid, well exlained
So they copying Rivals with the ban system 😂
Your game is trash Marvel Rivals has a better ban system day 1
Then watch a rivals creator lol, theres no one who wants to read what you just typed
@ikr8253 just interesting this sht game just got bans but only for pros and its super complicated. Blizzard ruined such a good game
@@GamerGuy10191 K, but theres no need to say "Your Game is trash" just respect the content
celeste music yippeee!!!!!
oh man, overwatch... what a throwback good times, once upon a time
all i care about is getting rid of mauga. genuinely mauga in every other game becomes so dull to watch, like hes strong so it makes sense but is so boring to watch
At this point Rivals is doing things better than Overwatch ever have.
HAAANK! DONT ABBREVIATE CRAZY PANDA ON LIQUIPEDIA!!!
I dont like how limited the map pool is, not even giving a team like Toronto Defiant the option to pick Gibraltar is a factor that hinders the team from the get go. Should have gone with a system like CS map pick system
Are partner teams seen as a good thing? Seems to me like it is anti-competetive and gatekeeping tier1
seems odd that team 1 can ban any role but team 2 gets limited
Yes, that's why the team that bans first has the advantage. You only get 1st ban if you lose the previous map, or if it's 1st map and you are the higher seeded team. It gives the losing team an advantage and makes it easier for them to come back against a stronger opponent.
You're by far the best analytical overwatch creator. And I kind of think you're just the best at being "not" insufferable lol. I like listening to you and you're smart as fuck. Just wanted to comment that
Something that might make the game look more fun and make it so teams don't just take the mauga mirror, and force some potentially really weird comps at times. Is to make it match wide hero limits. Would it be good? Who knows. Would they try it? Unlikely. Though I defiantly didn't think hero bans would become a thing some years ago, but I guess a lots changed now.
Its an actual skill that Blizzard has with taking very simple concepts and making them absolutely convoluted and terrible. Example: the hide and seek Genji/Kiriko thing, they made it so the defenders could melee the attackers? Wtaf? Now they make hero bans, a very simple concept and just make it super irritating dlfor the audience and players. Nice job
Your point at 4:30 is both a great insight and a super important thing to remember; teams are playing to win, not neccisarily to have fun. Banning the OP pick of the patch also bans said pick for YOUR team too, and if you guys have scrimmed every game with a mauga, you probably don't want to go banning it. Unrelated to that, I think the whole "if you ban a champ then the rest of the role can't be banned", is actually really interesting but won't be good from a broadcasting perspective. Its a very interesting metagame balancing whether you want to ban a specific hero or to protect an entire role, BUT i don't think that the extra metagame is intuitive or very interesting to watch for the vast majority of viewers. Maybe a more simplified system of banning a single hero and then protecting a single hero would be better an a lot more intuitive for viewers. Great video <3
I kinda love juno lucio dive idk it’s so fast with a genji tracer and dive tank
I’m sorry but like why would a team just banning the same character over and over not be okay?? How about OW fixed their game first before even trying to elaborate on further competitive mechanics
Because you could just remove a hero from the game against a team that might use that hero often? It just wouldn't make sense to allow a team to permaban Ana against a team that excels at Ana Brig/Lucio dive compositions, or something of the sort. This system allows you to ban different parts of a composition throughout the match, just not the same part, which makes sense and allows for fairness. Also your comment comes across as if this is a feature for ranked, so if you were confused, this is a hero ban system designed for professional play and their top level eSports circuit.
This gameplay is so much more exciting to watch than orisa or mauga comps. Its going to be sad when Haz gets a (deserved) nerf.
now just ban meta exist, another day another meta
that’s cool we on marvel tho
Then watch a Rivals creator?
@ i will baby don’t worry
the second lan being in saudi is so dumb and funny asf
The baning system is dumb. Now good people or teams will ban sht hero to protect meta pics. So first pick just ban S 76 to protect Widow. The worse design hero in history
20:13 I'm not even kidding, I said to myself unprompted "unfortunately" and it happened to sync up with you perfectly and I died laughing
ow content in my recommended in 2025 the year of rivals
1st fight really shows the whole "not the most notable teams" point perfectly
I'm no lawyer but I would imagine hero bans being implemented is desirable both for any of the franchise teams in the league and for Blizzard. Whatever effect the most recent balance patch has leading into league competition could influence the outcome given the preferences for each team. So hero bans might absolve Blizzard's development team of any liability in regards to potential accusations of favoritism or fixing.
Idk if anyone else has called itt this, but given how volatile and sporadic Hazard is with that fast pace support, I like to call this the PunkHazard meta. If not for any other reason than to also reference one piece. God I hate mauga mirrors, but Hazard and queen are just so electric with it, and those ultimate festivals are so fun to watch
rupal is probably the best flex support of all time from america so why is he playing main support?
Oh good lord and here's me missing my sleep key
Swiss tournament? Did i hear that right? 😂