Hearing that the ‘two maugas just duel it out’ sounds so cool until you watch it and they’re just holding down both clicks and occasionally strafing left to right
I think it would be cool to see some kind of hindsight illustration, like what could have falcons done to win a crucial fight on city center, positioning/cd/ult wise. just highlighting the detrimental mistakes and seeing your prediction for how the fight would have played out, maybe as a little segment after the 'main' video is done. Also, thank you for making this video despite all the roadblocks, cant wait to see more!
@@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8zFirst off, I am not a male. Second, I purposely keep things surface level in these videos. In-depth analysis is not very marketable, and requires a base knowledge set to understand. I am not going to expect 90% of the playerbase to understand basic macro when making my videos. I use these videos to introduce more basic concepts. I have experience coaching at the T2 level. What I do in these videos is not coaching. It is a presentation to your average player.
@@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8z You are basing my skills and abilities of analysis based off of content which isn't meant to go beyond the surface level. You have never interacted with me outside of watching these videos, you have no idea what my capabilities or experience are, and therefore you should respectfully refrain from un-educated statements.
I cant watch any one else talk about this game and pro play but your videos really help me understand so i can translate it to my own games i appreciate it thank you ari!
Very nice Vid ^_^ Im still wondering if the Hog was something they planned beforehand in VODs or just a "trust me on this one guys" moment that would have him subbed off next map by Moon lol
I love your content so much your easily my favorite creator on all platforms right now, nobody I’ve seen has been able to break down high level games and give as much insight onto how people on that level think and play. Thank you so much and I can’t wait to see more from you in the future
loved this video, been playing overwatch since launch and looking at parts of the map as a killbox is a new concept to me. going to be looking at all of my games differently now.
been loving the content! haven't had a good source of competitive overwatch analysis in a long time and i'm so glad i found your tiktok vids a few months ago. love the full map breakdowns, really interesting to see how it's played at the top level in 5v5 compared to what i was used to in 6v6
OW is gonna cease to exist as an esport if they continue handling things the way they have been. Esports need channels like these, the esport needs to be accessible for it to survive, let alone grow. Trying to watch all the matches you want to see in these last few tournaments has been a headache, barely any advertising at all for EWC, the community has literally been carrying the load for the tournament organizers as far as getting people in the loop.
This is the first I’m hearing of EWCs questionable moral conduct. Can someone inform me on what’s happened or going on or point me to something that could be informative? Thanks!
EWC is owned by the Saudi Government through their Public Investment Fund. I would recommend Sideshow's video on the topic. He is a widely respected caster in the eSports scene that previously casted for OWL and currently for Valorant. ua-cam.com/video/GIilD9qAzeA/v-deo.htmlsi=5JAaIYJRQ_Dg1f2h
I want you to know that when I saw the facecam at the end of the video, I was shocked by how beautiful you are. Keep up the quality content girlie pop!
One of the few creators I couldn't care less abt what they believe outside of OW in a good way. Genuinely great vids and you don't bring politics or anything into them unless its directly related to the game. Huge fan, Hope you blow up in the future.
Thanks for the ending bit, I felt like I was the only one concerned about the morally objectionable parts. It's kinda fucked up, like, shit's really important, and I feel like nobody cares because they want their precious t1 ow
The hooks are insane ive never seen hooks like this before. I stopped watching owl when super left and have never really paid much attention to anything besides SF Shock. Safe to say im in awe of what korea is up too!!
hey coach ocie, i'm sure you've seen the new razer and wooting feature called snap tap, i know already that it doesn't give you an "advantage" but what are your thoughts on it? great video , will be watching future ones.❤
Hi coach thx for the nice analysis of the final stage. I’ve recently got into your videos due to algorithms and learning a lot about heroes and some of the comps. While I was watching owcs, I came up with few questions, and it seemed like you were the only one to actually ask this questions. The game I’ve been wondering is the circuit royal match between SSG and team falcons. I do remember SSG starting as rein rush with sym, mei, lucio, bap and Falcons with the sig, phara, LW, bap, hanzo. On the SSG attack they were able to quickly push all of their payloads up to 3rd point. When it became SSG defense, Falcon brought the mauga, genji, venture extreme dive comp which lead to Landon just evaporating instantly. Then Hadi changes from rein to sig, but at the end falcons payload made up to 3rd point. What I am curious is would there be a specific reason why sparkr didn’t go bastion? As I remember, most of the SSG’s team were composed of formal London spitfire members(except funnyastro) and their basic team comp during the last league was rein, sym, bastion, lucio, and bap. They showed the exceptional use of TP creating unexpected kills and taking a huge space. Circuit royal is a map where there aren’t a lot of space to take cover and especially if you are on mauga, it will be difficult to actually hide that huge hit box on this map. In addition since the mauga, genji, venture becomes powerless when the enemy avoids their strong dash turn, if SSG used the sym TP to avoid that dash turn and use bastion turret form to grind the mauga out, would this bastion pick lead to SSG winning the match up? Thank you I look forward for more videos from you.
I really wish the OverWatch team would go through a bunch of maps and clean up stuff like those potted plants and light poles and other things that people get stuck on like that. Especially since most of those things aren't even effective cover, so there's really no reason for them to exist.
w video, quality stuff that should be seen so people stop running with these "they play it in pro so we should to" mindsets in ranked, people gotta realise the amount of coordination that goes into these team fights and why heroes do and don't work.
i was really into ow1 way back when and now that i'm getting back into the game i'm really glad to see such entertaining educational content :D (even if i'm nowhere near this level of skill)
This one is interesting to me because in ladder play, it's pretty much SOP to have an Ana if the enemy hog is having undue influence. Is this not considered effective at the pro level, or does Fielder just not play Ana?
What you might think of a "counter" often doesn't apply when the game is played correctly at the professional level. If Fielder played Ana, first off, Ana is not good with the Mauga composition, and she also won't get any value anyways. She'd be a constant target, and it would be difficult to keep Ana alive. If Ana nades Hog he gets insta suzu'd. It does nothing. Composition matters more than individual heroes. You need to consider how heroes interact.
@@Coach_Ocie Your response kinda captures why I never fell in love with watching the pro scene. When I play basketball, I'm no nba player, but I can watch the nba and understand the game even if I don't have a coach's level of insight. Pro overwatch doesn't feel like that. I like watching someone like you explain it, but it has no value for me on its own
I would say the 5v5 format does not add to player agency considering nearly every fight was decided by tank cooldowns and rotations this looked like a creative 1v1
Even if I were signed, the culture of gatekeeping codes/information would likely result in the org disallowing me access believing they are gaining an advantage by doing so. Eventually OW eSports will be broke enough that orgs might consider it so we will see.
I always love coach ocie videos also that obstacle that Smurf ran into I think (it does) that makes it Obstacles 3 Players 1 (I don’t think there was an obstacle/envirmental problem in the analysis of ssg vs gg peps when covering xzodyal) Also EWC sucks!
I know nothing about owl and never played ow myself, but if there’s one thing I do know, it’s the guy playing the big pig has been plotting that shit for a minute cause he wasn’t missing hooks 😭😭
Imma save yall precious time, hog soft counters mauga, and super's dumb ahh got close to the pit, and he predicted this due to how they attacked last time
I'm human, just like you. We are not too different, so please listen to what I have to say. You should very well understand that you are attacking me with such a comment, and that such a personal attack is unnecessary. You are clearly uncomfortable or upset about the personal choices that I have made in my life. That being said, I ask that you please stop watching my videos, and that you find another creator to watch. Thank you.
@@Coach_Ocie it’s your life and you are entitled to living it out as you please and to hold your own perspectives, as I am as well. Your life choices and the content you create can be independent. I am in full support of the gay and lesbian communities, but where I personally draw the line is trans. I’m not here to change your choices, merely stating I don’t support them. If you even want my perspective I think it odd that throughout all of humanity we have had a relatively consistent ratio of trans individuals respective to those who are not. In recent times this number has exponentially increased to the point that it’s difficult to respect people’s true identity. Have genetics changed or is there something within our culture that has caused this significant increase? I think it’s the latter.
Still absolutely no excuse for going out of your way to attack me. Would you say the same thing to a trans person talking to them in-person? Would you feel the same level of comfort saying something like that to someone when you aren't protected by the computer screen? That's the question I want you to think about. Respect and tolerance matter, so please work towards tolerating others regardless of your views towards them in the future. Consider your words carefully.
@@Coach_Ocie I wouldn’t if the basis of the interaction was independent of their trans identity. I would if they were not, as is in this scenario. I’m a highly conscientious person with high openness meaning I’m not afraid of controversial conversation and willingness to hear another’s perspective. I’m always willing to grow as a person as I take on new information, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument for adapting my current viewpoints. I just find it ironic that I have expressed my openness to the free will of you living your life how you please, just without personal supporting it, yet you urge me to change mine. I challenge your own statement then, why choose to be offended by my statement? I would argue either there is an internal insecurity present with your decision or there is availability toward working towards greater emotional fortitude. Only you control your emotions, don’t let me influence them so easily. I challenge you to be who you are and be confident in that, trans or non
Hearing that the ‘two maugas just duel it out’ sounds so cool until you watch it and they’re just holding down both clicks and occasionally strafing left to right
Just strafing and screaming at each other every now and then:/
“Junbin out here crankin’ his hog”
next owcs tournie is gonna be the first to be streamed on a toaster in blizzard HQ
I think it would be cool to see some kind of hindsight illustration, like what could have falcons done to win a crucial fight on city center, positioning/cd/ult wise. just highlighting the detrimental mistakes and seeing your prediction for how the fight would have played out, maybe as a little segment after the 'main' video is done. Also, thank you for making this video despite all the roadblocks, cant wait to see more!
Boost
Ask blizz to remove potted plants and add flight to maugas E
@@rodionradchenko7708you should be the main developer in balancing
@@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8zFirst off, I am not a male. Second, I purposely keep things surface level in these videos. In-depth analysis is not very marketable, and requires a base knowledge set to understand.
I am not going to expect 90% of the playerbase to understand basic macro when making my videos. I use these videos to introduce more basic concepts.
I have experience coaching at the T2 level. What I do in these videos is not coaching. It is a presentation to your average player.
@@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8z You are basing my skills and abilities of analysis based off of content which isn't meant to go beyond the surface level. You have never interacted with me outside of watching these videos, you have no idea what my capabilities or experience are, and therefore you should respectfully refrain from un-educated statements.
I second the hindsight illustration comment
I cant watch any one else talk about this game and pro play but your videos really help me understand so i can translate it to my own games i appreciate it thank you ari!
good explanations and relaxing voice, good shit
Very nice Vid ^_^ Im still wondering if the Hog was something they planned beforehand in VODs or just a "trust me on this one guys" moment that would have him subbed off next map by Moon lol
Moon said it's prepared and planned in an interview
The music that starts playing around 1:10 is called Neon Universe EX by flashygoodness and is featured in Rivals of Aether
I love your content so much your easily my favorite creator on all platforms right now, nobody I’ve seen has been able to break down high level games and give as much insight onto how people on that level think and play.
Thank you so much and I can’t wait to see more from you in the future
W music choices, the added visuals with the maps help a lot with understanding what each team is planning/thinking
Your hair looks good in this video btw
i used to have curls like this and can't get them back, i'm so jealous 🙄
This was sick, thanks for the breakdown
literally love your videos so much they're so relaxing lol
loved this video, been playing overwatch since launch and looking at parts of the map as a killbox is a new concept to me. going to be looking at all of my games differently now.
great video, your explanations are fantastic
and the furi and katana zero OSTs will always be goated
Nice video Ari :). Very informative!
using the furi soundtrack is fire
been loving the content! haven't had a good source of competitive overwatch analysis in a long time and i'm so glad i found your tiktok vids a few months ago. love the full map breakdowns, really interesting to see how it's played at the top level in 5v5 compared to what i was used to in 6v6
Thought this was Jeff Nippard's secret OW channel until the hair reveal
hey! love your videos, great coaching that has helped me improve and understand positioning better.
(also, you look genuinely majestic)
loved the video ocie
OW is gonna cease to exist as an esport if they continue handling things the way they have been. Esports need channels like these, the esport needs to be accessible for it to survive, let alone grow. Trying to watch all the matches you want to see in these last few tournaments has been a headache, barely any advertising at all for EWC, the community has literally been carrying the load for the tournament organizers as far as getting people in the loop.
Your explained everything so well, great video
Loved this breakdown!
Excited for the older match coverage!!! Great video
Loving these videos, I would love to see one looking an in depth look into SSG.🙏
Dude, competitive analysis videos are crack
Loved the video!!
This is the first I’m hearing of EWCs questionable moral conduct. Can someone inform me on what’s happened or going on or point me to something that could be informative? Thanks!
EWC is owned by the Saudi Government through their Public Investment Fund. I would recommend Sideshow's video on the topic. He is a widely respected caster in the eSports scene that previously casted for OWL and currently for Valorant.
ua-cam.com/video/GIilD9qAzeA/v-deo.htmlsi=5JAaIYJRQ_Dg1f2h
@@Coach_Ocie thank you
coach ocie :3
Im Blackpink, ur videos are great ocie, just as great as of a coach u where. Keep it up.
I want you to know that when I saw the facecam at the end of the video, I was shocked by how beautiful you are. Keep up the quality content girlie pop!
Your understandable explanations make OWCS SOOOOOOOOO much easier to watch/understand as a non-competitive OW player. Please never stop Queen!!!!!! ❤❤
Tryna get better at OW these analyses are very thorough and extremely detailed already dude. Love the content and keep it up
I love the support duo of Fielder and ChiYo
finding out that ur trans made my day sm, trans pride! ur one of my fav creators, keep it up homegirl ^^
Was this the match that crashed first round I remember watching this live
BRUH THAT RIVALS MUSIC!? Sick
I think it’s also important context to point out that cr was losing the Mauga mirror since falcons had discovered genji venture
One of the few creators I couldn't care less abt what they believe outside of OW in a good way. Genuinely great vids and you don't bring politics or anything into them unless its directly related to the game. Huge fan, Hope you blow up in the future.
Thanks for the ending bit, I felt like I was the only one concerned about the morally objectionable parts. It's kinda fucked up, like, shit's really important, and I feel like nobody cares because they want their precious t1 ow
i dont play overwatch but i love watching your videos. keep it up!!
The hooks are insane ive never seen hooks like this before. I stopped watching owl when super left and have never really paid much attention to anything besides SF Shock. Safe to say im in awe of what korea is up too!!
Ocie i gotta say these videos are extremely good
hey coach ocie, i'm sure you've seen the new razer and wooting feature called snap tap, i know already that it doesn't give you an "advantage" but what are your thoughts on it? great video , will be watching future ones.❤
This is so cool what a game
I love finding out that content creators I love are trans, trans rights!!
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Good insights
slay queen great analysis
Great video keep up the good work
Hi coach thx for the nice analysis of the final stage. I’ve recently got into your videos due to algorithms and learning a lot about heroes and some of the comps. While I was watching owcs, I came up with few questions, and it seemed like you were the only one to actually ask this questions. The game I’ve been wondering is the circuit royal match between SSG and team falcons. I do remember SSG starting as rein rush with sym, mei, lucio, bap and Falcons with the sig, phara, LW, bap, hanzo. On the SSG attack they were able to quickly push all of their payloads up to 3rd point. When it became SSG defense, Falcon brought the mauga, genji, venture extreme dive comp which lead to Landon just evaporating instantly. Then Hadi changes from rein to sig, but at the end falcons payload made up to 3rd point.
What I am curious is would there be a specific reason why sparkr didn’t go bastion?
As I remember, most of the SSG’s team were composed of formal London spitfire members(except funnyastro) and their basic team comp during the last league was rein, sym, bastion, lucio, and bap. They showed the exceptional use of TP creating unexpected kills and taking a huge space.
Circuit royal is a map where there aren’t a lot of space to take cover and especially if you are on mauga, it will be difficult to actually hide that huge hit box on this map. In addition since the mauga, genji, venture becomes powerless when the enemy avoids their strong dash turn, if SSG used the sym TP to avoid that dash turn and use bastion turret form to grind the mauga out, would this bastion pick lead to SSG winning the match up?
Thank you I look forward for more videos from you.
I need to take some notes from those hog plays holy
Hes just insane with hitting hooks
tons of info, gj
Respect on the ewc decision stand on bidness
I really wish the OverWatch team would go through a bunch of maps and clean up stuff like those potted plants and light poles and other things that people get stuck on like that. Especially since most of those things aren't even effective cover, so there's really no reason for them to exist.
another banger video sis
Love these vids
Do you think environment geometry like the plant should exist ? It feels kinda shit when it happens. But could be called a feature I guess?
Junbins just out there going crazy casual smurfing on smurf 😮
w video, quality stuff that should be seen so people stop running with these "they play it in pro so we should to" mindsets in ranked, people gotta realise the amount of coordination that goes into these team fights and why heroes do and don't work.
That potted plant supports my theory that Overwatch has terrible map geometry for a shooter.
i was really into ow1 way back when and now that i'm getting back into the game i'm really glad to see such entertaining educational content :D (even if i'm nowhere near this level of skill)
This one is interesting to me because in ladder play, it's pretty much SOP to have an Ana if the enemy hog is having undue influence. Is this not considered effective at the pro level, or does Fielder just not play Ana?
What you might think of a "counter" often doesn't apply when the game is played correctly at the professional level. If Fielder played Ana, first off, Ana is not good with the Mauga composition, and she also won't get any value anyways.
She'd be a constant target, and it would be difficult to keep Ana alive. If Ana nades Hog he gets insta suzu'd. It does nothing.
Composition matters more than individual heroes. You need to consider how heroes interact.
@@Coach_Ocie Your response kinda captures why I never fell in love with watching the pro scene. When I play basketball, I'm no nba player, but I can watch the nba and understand the game even if I don't have a coach's level of insight.
Pro overwatch doesn't feel like that. I like watching someone like you explain it, but it has no value for me on its own
I would say the 5v5 format does not add to player agency considering nearly every fight was decided by tank cooldowns and rotations this looked like a creative 1v1
That last fight was crazy 🤤
Either I am crazy, or its a million times easier to get caught on map geometry in OW2.
sick video
Thank you!
I assume getting signed to an org just for the owcs client/opr access is not an option sadly?
Even if I were signed, the culture of gatekeeping codes/information would likely result in the org disallowing me access believing they are gaining an advantage by doing so. Eventually OW eSports will be broke enough that orgs might consider it so we will see.
@@Coach_Ocie unfortunate, keep up the content fun to see on TikTok n yt
junbin is the fucking goat
I always love coach ocie videos also that obstacle that Smurf ran into I think (it does) that makes it Obstacles 3 Players 1 (I don’t think there was an obstacle/envirmental problem in the analysis of ssg vs gg peps when covering xzodyal) Also EWC sucks!
:3
I know nothing about owl and never played ow myself, but if there’s one thing I do know, it’s the guy playing the big pig has been plotting that shit for a minute cause he wasn’t missing hooks 😭😭
bro I was thinking that you were just frieren yapping about overwatch
the BGM with the ascending pitch that keeps going up is really distracting whenever it plays
1:35 🤨
3:25 7:28 i got deja vu
7:58
2:00
Them 🪝🪝🪝 🤌
OMG UR TRANS I LOVE YOU A THOUSAND TIMES MORE
ur so pretty holy shit
trans flag spotted! 🏳️⚧️
Imma save yall precious time, hog soft counters mauga, and super's dumb ahh got close to the pit, and he predicted this due to how they attacked last time
the most beautiful content I see on the internet is from trans people. this cant be a coincidence. maybe it starts with taking care of yourself.
ur trans?!?!?! my goat
trans flag yay
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Where
great content but cant support the trans stuff, good breakdown regardless
I'm human, just like you. We are not too different, so please listen to what I have to say. You should very well understand that you are attacking me with such a comment, and that such a personal attack is unnecessary. You are clearly uncomfortable or upset about the personal choices that I have made in my life.
That being said, I ask that you please stop watching my videos, and that you find another creator to watch. Thank you.
@@Coach_Ocie it’s your life and you are entitled to living it out as you please and to hold your own perspectives, as I am as well. Your life choices and the content you create can be independent. I am in full support of the gay and lesbian communities, but where I personally draw the line is trans. I’m not here to change your choices, merely stating I don’t support them. If you even want my perspective I think it odd that throughout all of humanity we have had a relatively consistent ratio of trans individuals respective to those who are not. In recent times this number has exponentially increased to the point that it’s difficult to respect people’s true identity. Have genetics changed or is there something within our culture that has caused this significant increase? I think it’s the latter.
Still absolutely no excuse for going out of your way to attack me. Would you say the same thing to a trans person talking to them in-person? Would you feel the same level of comfort saying something like that to someone when you aren't protected by the computer screen?
That's the question I want you to think about.
Respect and tolerance matter, so please work towards tolerating others regardless of your views towards them in the future. Consider your words carefully.
@@Coach_Ocie I wouldn’t if the basis of the interaction was independent of their trans identity. I would if they were not, as is in this scenario. I’m a highly conscientious person with high openness meaning I’m not afraid of controversial conversation and willingness to hear another’s perspective. I’m always willing to grow as a person as I take on new information, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument for adapting my current viewpoints. I just find it ironic that I have expressed my openness to the free will of you living your life how you please, just without personal supporting it, yet you urge me to change mine. I challenge your own statement then, why choose to be offended by my statement? I would argue either there is an internal insecurity present with your decision or there is availability toward working towards greater emotional fortitude. Only you control your emotions, don’t let me influence them so easily. I challenge you to be who you are and be confident in that, trans or non
Wtf, ur cute.
First btw
(Pin?)
people still do this shit? grow up dawg