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Hi, Thank you for your observation. It's not a formation that's often undertaken and it doesn't work every time but generally speaking I'm surprised how often it does! What I do is to run the locos selected for the task solo round the circuit for 15-20 minutes first so that they properly warm up and make sure there's no 'stiction' remaining in the mechanism/transmission. The 57 is a Heljan (superb motor and gearing!) and the green 47 a Lima... and there no DCC in sight on my layout! Happy New Year, kind sir, Graeme

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Thank you very much indeed for your comment. Delighted you enjoyed! All the very best!

Thank you for your kind thoughts, delighted you enjoyed! Final upload of the year tomorrow.🙂

@crewelocoman5b161 It is already tomorrow here 😅 9am, 24 December today.👍

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Thank you for your contribution here. There is a business that specialises in the repair of H&M controllers if it helps. I've put a link in the description.

Hi Russell Many thanks for your contribution as always. Yep, Merchant Navy on the Pullman, Nearly there with the 'Arthurs'. N15= King Arthurs; S15= loco on the parcels or if you like 'Arthur' with smaller (5' 6'') driving wheels but no names, purely mixed traffic. Don't forget the Stroudley 'Terrier' on station pilot duties!! 2 BILs yes. Next upload scheduled for Christmas Eve.

Hello again, Thank you for your observation, it's been a while since I've had some Southern action up. Delighted you enjoyed!👍

@@crewelocoman5b161 Most enjoyable and the opening of Golden Arrow Pullmans passing a pair of 2 BIL units thence the King Arthur hurtling towards the camera is magic..... 🙂 _Psst @3.50 - no swingers on the Southern._ 😉 _(in the spirit of being helpful)_

@@ewhurstgreen Many thanks again, delighted you enjoyed...no idea what a "swinger" is🤔

@@crewelocoman5b161 A swinger is a last vehicle devoid of a brake (guard); on the main line it was normal practice for the guard to always be in the rear vehicle. Southern trains had their non-braked CCTs (etc) marshalled between the locomotive and passenger carrying coaches - else a braked van (such as a van c) would be on the rear. For example, the Golden Arrow with its pair of CCTs behind the locomotive. Mainline coaching sets were formed in fixed formations and had a brake van at each end. This started to change in the sixties.... Much can be found on BloodandCustard. _Hope this is all of interest._ 🙂 Compliments of the Season (Ticket)! 🌟

@@crewelocoman5b161 Swingers are non-braked trailing vehicles (i.e. at the rear of a train) - Southern mainline practice was to have the Guard in the last vehicle. Vehicles such as non-braked CCTs (Covered Carriage Trucks) were positioned between the locomotive and PCCs (Passenger Carrying Coaches) else the very last vehicle would contain a Guard such as a Van C. Such vehicles would be XP rated. _For example the Golden Arrow had is NPCCs (Non-Passenger Carrying Coaches) - frequently a pair of CCTs - behind the locomotive (this was also convenient for unloading)._ The Southern's main line coaching sets were formed in fixed formation with a brake at each end - the Guard riding in the last vehicle. _I hope this is of interest and supportive of your excellent modelling._ *Compliments of the Season Ticket* 🌟 - Colin PS - It is worth noting some Pullman Cars contained a Guard's position (although devoid baggage accomodation) - useful for the splitting of the Devon Belle.

Thank you kind sir, all the very best to you!🎄

Cheers! Final upload of the year scheduled for Christmas Eve.🙂

Hi, Thank you very much indeed for the endorsement, I'm delighted you enjoyed. Tri-ang produced some distinctive wagons back in the day which can still pass muster in formations today. The cattle wagon, three containers wagon, trestrol wagon, and the bogie chlorine/ICI wagons feature regularly in my uploads. The green goods van work reasonably well with Southern utility stock. Final upload of the year is scheduled for Christmas Eve, Cheers, Graeme

Thank you Lynden, Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year to You! ...I have another vid scheduled for Christmas Eve.

@crewelocoman5b161 Brilliant!! Looking forward to it.

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Hi, Many thanks, it's always good to hear from you. Yes the S15, a damn good engine, the nearest the Southern had to a heavy freight loco and more than capable of turning a wheel on a passenger turn! Yes, it's the Fox 'Golden Arrow' set. Stay tuned, there's another upload scheduled for Christmas Eve...

Hi, Many thanks for your support! I've done a session on the Duette a few months back. All the very best to you!

Hi, Thank you for your question. Personally I prefer waterslide transfers, no need to cut out at the edge, no need to get right first time and so on. The only problem was that inexplicably they had the potential and a tendency to break up when applying. This happened even with top rate manufacturers such as Fox; small numbers would break up. I gave up with lining out on cabs and tenders as the transfer would expand when wet requiring cutting and butting...not easy to get right..Short sections such as cylinder lining and boiler bands were relatively straightforward. The supplier of the transfers for the 2-6-4T offered both waterslide and sticky back. Unfortunately, the waterslde tank lining broke up so sticky back it had to be. A sharp scalpel is needed to cut them out. I tried but failed. A rough white edging appeared no matter what tool or application I tried. What about scissors? Nope, I'm not accurate enough. (Eye sight and disability in my right hand going against me!). My good wife came to the rescue and she was able to accurately scissor cut out the tank and bunker linings as well as the cylinder and boiler band linings. Yes, a tiny white paper edging still appears, but that is easily dealt with by painting it black (in the case of the black loco). A word of warning: don't use a felt tipped pen! These invariably bleed through the paper and interfere with the lining or lettering. Use enamel paint...it dries quickly. Then you have to get the positioning right first time. Not as difficult as it sounds, just take your time. Finally, spray a couple of coats of satin varnish over the model. Any slight variations of black on the loco vis-a-vis the applied transfers vanishes. Hope this helps. Thank you for your comments.👍 Graeme

@@crewelocoman5b161 Thanks very much for taking the time to write such a detailed and informative reply. You have answered all my concerns and I will be ordering the sticky decals and will take care and follow your advice on painting the edges etc. Thanks again and all the best!

@@TenCJones You're wehcome. Hope it works well for you. Cheers, Graeme

That's good to hear. I bought the weathered Bachmann version not long after it came out. I've hardly run it at all and a few years ago I picked up the green one which I much prefer. In fact, what I'll think I'll do is apply some weathering powders to it as the "weathered" one just doesn't do it! Cheers Graeme

Many thanks for your comment and interest. So it was no longer a Wrenn model then? How long did the motor last? I had a Wrenn West Country which had a portescap motor and scale bogie and trailing wheels. The Wrenn drivers were retained but the running characteristics were poor so I got rid! C'est la vie!

Hi Russell, Thank you for your welcome comment. Delighted to hear that you going to give purchasing one some consideration. You won't regret it ! Cheers, Graeme

Thank you for your question. The respective brandings of the manufacturers are located underneath on the chassis at the coal bunker end. It is possible to tell a Hornby Dublo version from the screw hole at the back end of the bunker which enabled alterations to be made (wave form around the magnet?) for slow running which was abandoned between 1959-1961with the advent of better controllers in the 1950s. The 'hole' did appear on some of the first production runs of the Wrenn but I have never come across any. Also, from 1972 onwards all Wrenn locos and rolling stock were provided with metal rimmed trailing wheels. From 1966-72 they were plastic as was Hornby Dublo. Hornby Dublo made a much improved chimney casting which appeared in 1959. Wrenn models are almost always to be seen fitted with the Tri-ang universal tension lock coupling altough the H.D. was included as an option to be fitted. I suppose the price difference comes down to condition and collectibility. Hornby Dublo were toys and generally treated as such hence the very play worn examples one finds today. Wrenn became aware of the collectibility of their models and deliberately catered for this demand with 'limited editions' and unintentionally with short runs, livery variations, 5 pole motors not to mention the hugely extended ranges and fanciful liveries etc. Also, many of these varieties, when they become avaiable. are nearly always close to "mint boxed " condition.

@@crewelocoman5b161 Thanks, for the reply, very informative! I am just considering whether I will buy a Wrenn made one if I see one for sale. I think these were the best Dublo locos, but I also like the N2.

There's plenty to be had. As well as "You Know Where Bay" here's a couple of links: wrennmodelrailways.com/ www.wrennspecialist.co.uk/ www.ebay.co.uk/str/wholelottacollectables/WRENN/_i.html?store_cat=2132858018 These sites do stock excellent examples, you know, the "mint boxed" variety so expect hefty prices to match. For me, Hornby Dublo reached their zenith with the 8F and Castle, not so sure about what came after...the West Country looked like a rushed job with the future not looking so bright for Meccano, Dinky and Hornby. The N2 was chosen as the first '00' gauge to be produced as it was just about large enough to take the chunky Ringfield motor. 4mm manufacturing was much easier than H0 at 3.5mm back in the day, but we are stuck with it now (rails being H0 in width) but lets not go there...!🤔 BTW there's nothing quite like holding a good Wrenn model upside down in your hands and marvelling at that retro solid engineering technology!

Thank you indeed for your comments and observations . It was the first attempt by Hornby Dublo at producing a scale model; driving wheels, proportions etc contributing to its magnificent look. The pre war tooled A4 and Duchess fell short in some of those respects. All Hornby Dublo models with Walschaerts valve gear had fully actuating movement with the exception of the A4. The cylinders and massive appearance of the valve gear were probably exaggerated somewhat but they didn't detract a all from the overall appearance. Cheers! Graeme

Many thanks for your observations. All the LMS 2-6-4 tank engines were impressive looking locomotives. Bachmann produced the correct Fairburn version in Caledonian livery. It's all good stuff!

You are so right in your assessment. I have a weathered Bachmann one and a green one which looks a little better but they do not match the H.D./Wrenn versions.

Many thanks for your comment and interest. It's all good stuff!

Thank you for your comments and observations. There's plenty of life left in these models, that's for sure!

Hi, Thank you for your input, greatly appreciated! Happy Trains!

"...there be in the bin, so the ones you have criticised the older type model that has got the wrong colour the world last that model where when Matt was in the bin. you can cut out all the latest rubbish" I haven't got a clue what an earth you are going on about. Your last statement makes no sense at all. Grammatically and logically incoherent.

Hi, Yes it is! As good as new £40 acquired especially for this session when all I was looking for was the body shell. "Good runner" as they say but a bit on the noisy side as is ther case with all Mainline.

@ i have one also, gave it a good service and a good run and seemed to quiet down a bit, nice model

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So you want three sessions up and coming?!!.🤔 Yes, hello Pirate-Scorcher-1998. It was my intention to do something Southern and GWR which haven't figured for a while but just for a bit of variety I'm thinking I'll do one of my overviews of the Wrenn locos I have as the next upload.🙂 Many thanks for you comment and support. Graeme

@ yes just like this video of a mixed selection of locos of your choice. Hi. Ahh I see that would be exciting to see. No problem 😉

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Hi, I am truly humbled by your comment. Thank you for your support and I'm of course delighted that you enjoy the sessions I put together. Very much appreciated!😊 Graeme

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Thank you for your contributions here. Do you know one of the most unexpected pleasures I derive from making these videos is reading the memories it rekindles from contributors like your good self whether it be about railway modelling or as in your case bygone memories of the railway back in the day. Much appreciated. Cheers, Graeme

Great comment! You are so right. I said to my wife that I couldn't make this up if I tried, still, just about managed to get some decent shots of trains on the second, third, and fourth circuits! Many thanks for your comment and observations! Cheers, Graeme

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@@leey7h I'll certainly take that! Many thanks.

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Thank you for your comments. The two B12s really do have crews but there is no space in the cab of the N2 which is occupied by the motor. I have yet to get around to crewing the A2 and B1 but most of the three hundred plus locos I have in my collection do have crews in place...really!

@@crewelocoman5b161 I think thats the first you mentioned the locos.I have 120, 436 wagons and 285 coaches. And I thought that was a lot!

@@leey7h Hi, I need to do some counting but I think you beat me on the wagons!😊

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Hl, Thank you very kindly sir for your comment and interest. Delighted you enjoyed the session. Cheers, Graeme

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Delighted you enjoyed sir! Thank you for your support. Graeme

@@crewelocoman5b161 Graeme - always enjoyable - so busy too! - Colin. 🙂

That's fine, I'm delighted you like the passenger train and most people would agree with your preference.Thank you for your comment🙂

Thank you for your support and comments. You too have a great week.

Hi Lynden, the layout size is a little under 18ft x 8ft. Delighted you enjoyed the session. Thank you as always. Graeme.

@@crewelocoman5b161 That's a good size layout especially to get a good rake of wagons or coaches! Looking forward to your next video! Take care.

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