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Helllll yeah, these are "mini" chicken head knobs FYI and you can get 2 big ones for the output/solo knobs

Thanks man! I try to make my videos about the amp not my playing haha. Glad you're digging it! PALM MUTES RULE

THANKS! must have for the rectos. Gonna black out the panel on this one soon

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Sorry man, its actually quite a bit slower than I normally would if I was playing or dialing in a tone for a client. Plus I didn't want this video to be an hour long. I've got individual videos of each of these amps with more detail possible. Really just showing the range and variation of the knobs and how they affect the gain, which is stuff I don't see anybody doing on here really.

@acrylicrecording no worries bro I didn't mean to be a complainer was trying to actually gauge the values and the sweeps you do very good job

Yeah there is a difference, the multi-watt (ones with 100 or 150watt instead of solo) are generally brighter, tighter and more aggressive. Though I don't know if that really makes them "better" just different. Some of my favourite tones I've gotten were on the older "solo" head models. There are some other differences like FX Loop and switching and per channel rectification instead of global. My advise, unless you're really into modern metal and are quite particular about rectos an older "solo" three channel one will be great.

I mean its not an evertune.. but its pretty in tune dude. Maybe you're talking about the lead part with lots of vibrato ? lol

Exacccccctly, super responsive to your playing

Thanks for checking it out :)

Thanks, appreciate it!

Thanks so much! Classic amp

Thats lucky the JCM2000 didn't breakdown because the pre 2005 ones are know to have bad circuit boards! definitely the best amp for metal out of all of these for sure

You get every high gain tone ever.

Totallly, though I find its just different, if you want raw explosive power have the master up, if you want control smooth gain, master down a bit

@@acrylicrecording Ok, you have an opinion.

Yeah it's a really cool amp and sounds great without anything in front of it!

@acrylicrecording Absolutely! My pedals have been collecting dust since getting a Jubilee. I spent years searching for this sound

Hey man, turns out this one had some interesting mods done to it so I can’t exactly say about a stock one. But my experience with this and other similar Sunn amps is that they take gain pedal QUITE well. So go for it, but give it a good try before you buy.

Helll yeah, the 20w jubilee is freaaaakin' great. If you need all that stuff with the 800 its probably not the amp for you, especially with a G3 since thats basically a REVV pre amp pedal.

100% vintage or expensive tubes are mostly snake oil, but tube types 100% can be heard.. though it is quite subtle. Mostly about feel, I love Glen but when I found out recently he only recently started playing guitar I started taking his guitar comments with a huge grain of salt because in my experience guitar tone almost always comes down to how it feels to play through. But I’ve experimented a lot with different tube types in this amp and also my REVV Generator and they can do some nice subtle shifts to an amp. Some amps really just like the tube they were designed for, others sound great with many just depends what you’re after. I liked this amp best with KT88s at least in my initial trial. I’m going to do a tube shootout on this sometime soon. The KT88s have a bit more low end, smoother high end and was a bit looser and less compressed but not by much.

Hey thanks for the comment, not sure if I'm understanding the point you're trying to make though?

@@acrylicrecording My point is you are mismatching the impedance of the output transformer by using a tube type it wasn't designed for. Sure, you can bias other tube types to work - but these amps generally sound best on the EL34's they were meant to run on.

Hell yeah! Just a classic and versatile Marshall

I'm generally a huge fan of cranking the presence.. especially on a lot of other amps but sometimes in the room with this one there is a crazy amount of ear-bleeding fizz that comes when you've got it up loud, somewhat depending on your speakers. Also I find in the mix usually guitars work much better a bit darker than a guitar player would like the play through. So really my comment about it was just letting people know that some cool tones can be had by turning it down.

had one and sold it after less than a month / it lacks balls

The 2555x has a wider frequency range. The small one sounds good but it lacks the punch of the bigger one

My general thought is that the 2525h is a very sweet and great amp but really was designed to be played by ones self not really in a band/loud setting. The power section totally just starts to compress and get small when you try to crank it to compete at drummer volumes. If you're playing something that isn't hard rock or metal with a controlled drummer you could get away with it but the 100w has sooo much more punch and power though a little rougher with more grit around the edges. 2525h is smoother and sweet 2555x is aggressive and angry and a bit more fire breathing but the high end can be a bit ear bleedy and fatiguing.

Yeah I hear you, when I had an attenuator this and my Vox AC30TBX and Ampeg V4 were the only amps that it seemed useful to attenuate and crank the master but not really useful enough to keep the attenuator IMO. An SD-1 and Tubescreamer are extremely similar circuits if I recall correctly besides the tone control on the SD-1 especially if running into a very distorted amp. But I totally agree with the tubescreamers are better with Fenders and SD-1s with marshalls. I gotta get me another Distortion +!

@@acrylicrecordingthey are a similar circuit but the SD1 cuts more bass I think and it’s mid and high frequencies are shifted up and the top end of the sd1 is more aggressive. The thing I love about an SD1 into a Marshall is that percussive clank you can get under palm muting.

Thanks man I appreciate it!

100% classic great tone super versatile amp for being so simple.

Would really depend on where the master volume is set and the sweep or sensitivity of that knob. Both will sound pretty bad at "bedroom" levels and all of my demos of amps are at band volume or sometimes a bit louder. The master volume knob on this JCM800 is very sensitive there really isn't a "home" or bedroom volume setting, its almost nothing then basically quiet band volume. I think rectifiers can get a bit better at lower volumes but because of the fizz in the FX loop they do not sound good at all quiet unless you bypass the loop (at least on anything pre multi-watt). Hope that helps!

Why would you want to know that?

@@fedup3449 As we all know, the louder the volume, the better the sound of all amps. However, many people say that especially JCM800 and JMP, which require a high volume to be effective, Mesa is not. I use a 150 watt triple rectifier in my bedroom, which usually switches to 50 watts and produces 120db. The sound is acceptable.

@@acrylicrecording My bedroom volume is usually 120db, which is not quiet but acceptable.

@@9iii460 I use the Marshall DSL40 which can switch to a 20W. In addition I have channel volumes plus master volume so I can get all the gain I want and turn to below talk level if needed. Works fine. Cheers!

Phasers ruleeeee! Thanks for the watch and comment!

Feel in the room is quite different, triple is loose and very dynamic, dual is very tight and a bit more focused. But yeah I kept the Triple.

2204 and The 2555x are the two I kept. 2204 is just super a pure and great sounding amp a really useful tool in the studio. I haven't tried those Laneys but have heard some good things! Didn't know about those circuit design aspects! Will have to check one out, thanks for the comment :)

OH yeah, waaaay more gain than the dual or regular Terror. I had both for a while really wasn't a fan of the voicing of the dual, seemed to not do the cool thing the Tiny Terror did and its only benefit is that it was a bit louder for band use. While I love the Tiny Terror, its quite limited (which is also its strength) and the OR15 is kinda everything i liked about the terror but with more flexibility, though the voicing is certainly different. I also greatly prefer the OR15 over the OR50 reissue I had.

They're similar-ish I suppose maybe a bit more range on the 2000, but I might say its a bit closer to the weird as heck tone stack on the Jubilee, perhaps right in-between. I don't have the 2000 anymore but it was both more tweak-able than the 800 but also not as many sweet spots, with the 800 almost everywhere is a sweet spot.

Might be the speaker/guitar/mic placement both the speakers and guitar are quite bright and sizzly, mic placement could be adding to it as well. I wouldn't call this amp overly fizzy in the room but I hear what you're saying i'd just refer to it as some EL84 ORANGE SIZZLE but not for everybody.

I'd say not as much sizzle as an orange and much less compressed, but similar for sure. Much stiffer feel than most oranges i've played.

Pretty much yeah! The exact signal chain is in the description. I think this amp works so well for punk rock-type tones and a bit beyond but not quite for "metal". I tried a few boosts with it before filming, but it didn't really need them or like them, maybe I was trying them with the gain too high in retrospect.

@@acrylicrecording yeah that’s what I thought ! Great for good Adolescents tone eheh Hmm maybe for metal it depends what pickups and an eq and something to tight it if modern is needed, but with not so much gain, for not so modern I think of Jim root tone, very open, strange to listen alone but awesome in a mix

Heck yeah, one of my favourite Orange amps if not my favourite.

Haha hell yeah, definitely an underrated amp that can get pretty brutal if needed! Thanks for the watch and comment :)

No problem! I used to hate rectifiers because I didn't know how to dial them in at all and that loop bypass is one of the main things to do to learn the amp. Having the output control around noon is essential level matched to bypass. As for the low end, I'm running a tube-screamer pretty much the entire video i think. The sm57 is in a brighter spot, and doesn't really pickup too much low end, plus i've got it like CRANKED stage volume so that evens out the low end a bit with the highs, the volume knob is the tone knob!

For sure the Dual in these examples sounds a bit more "musical" possibly because I set the tones on it first, then matched them on the triple. Could have gone completely the opposite if i did it the other way round I think. thw 150w watt is less compressed and has was more response too it.. sometimes too much. I'd compare it to the 50w vs 100w 5150s lower watts is tighter and compressed and more focused but less dynamic response to your picking dynamics and less dynamics especially in the low end. In these examples the compression on the low end of the dual is VERY nice. The biggest difference is in the room and under the fingers, way more difference than under the mic just listening back, so to me its much more about your personal playing style and what kind of response you like from your amp, tight and compressed/focused or open and very dynamic/responsive

???? vat do you mean

@@acrylicrecording that was a ton of gain on the pushed setting, I wasn't expecting it.

@@FEAROWNAGE hahah that’s what I thought you meant! Me to!!!! I hadn’t really played with that setting much but I actually really loved it. Was surprised for sure. Probably the best mod gain tone on a recto

Hey hey, thanks for the kind words! Man its so tricky with these rectos, I think I've had 5... so far... 3 channel dual, 3 channel triple, Rev G triple, Dual Multi, Triple Multi, and its almost always the previous amp I sold that I think might've been the best.. haha. Since I didnt have them at the same time I'm really not sure which one I prefer, but feature wise the multi-watt FOR SURE wins, more fx loop options, actual clean channel, better channel cloning ETC. Listening back to my other videos of the REV G It certainly sounds great, different maybe tighter and smoother, but also hard to tell because I used to dial rectifiers soo differently when i had that one IE presence up vs presence down. I think my fav one might've been the regular three channel triple i had. For NU metal tones, the multi is deff easier to get those tones but honestly any recto will get you in that zone for sure.

@@acrylicrecording I agree, it’s tricky with these rectos for sure! I currently own a Rev G modded by ground zero and I’m searching to buy another triple rev G stock. I also have a Badlander 100 that I managed to make it sound like older rectos but way tighter, cutting some frequencies with a parametric EQ in the FX loop. I think Badlander wins the way I set it up. I also use Mr Scary mod to boost the gain and it works amazing.

Thanks man! People love the 2 channels.. but the clean on these are so good and nobody ever talks about them!

Heck yeah! I've got an 800 too, honestly probably my most used amp for studio stuff. But certainly not as versatile or exciting as the Rectos