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The Lies of Eddard Stark (and other people too) - ASOIAF Theories
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The Problem with Time Travel - ASOIAF Theories
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We redid this video 130,000 times until we got it right. Yu-Gi-Oh Nightmare: ua-cam.com/video/ZnkOZNsmU0k/v-deo.html Preston's Time Traveling Bran: ua-cam.com/video/AmD6fZek4Kc/v-deo.html Bran the Time God: ua-cam.com/video/Qt5yNHsaSrU/v-deo.html Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madnes...
The Secret Black Gate ft. MichaelTalksAboutStuff - ASOIAF Theories
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Special thanks to @michaeltalksaboutstuff for bringing us this fantastic theory. Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub Join our Discord if you want I guess: discord.gg/8tKsKc7pqx We do also have a second channel @theinterestingnerdnetwork where we...
Howland's Wife ft. Quinn the GM - ASOIAF Theories
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This one features @QuinnTheGM who shows remarkable skill at putting up with us Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub Join our Discord if you want I guess: discord.gg/8tKsKc7pqx We do also have a second channel @theinterestingnerdnetwork where we d...
DEBUNKED Winds of Winter Release Theory - ASOIAF Theories
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This theory officially disproven on July 9th, 2024. It was still fun though. Quinn's video: ua-cam.com/video/IM9AZk6PIVo/v-deo.html Michael's video: ua-cam.com/video/RCMu6QEJ_2c/v-deo.html Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub P.O. BOX IS OPEN. Yo...
HotD Call-in Show [Episode 2]
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I'm glad nothing bad happened this episode. You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub P.O. BOX IS OPEN. You can send us stuff here if you want!!: The Interesting Nerd Club P.O. Box 570 Buffalo, NY 14215 Join our Discord if you want I guess: discord.gg/8tKsKc7pqx We do also have a second channel @theinterestingnerdnetwork where...
Why Was Varys Cut? - ASOIAF Theories
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We kinda solved this one? idk. Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub P.O. BOX IS OPEN. You can send us stuff here if you want!!: The Interesting Nerd Club P.O. Box 570 Buffalo, NY 14215 Join our Discord if you want I guess: discord.gg/8tKsKc7pqx W...
Mance Rhaegar (hear me out) - ASOIAF Theories
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Actually literally Mance Rhaegar video. Go check out Yggdrasil's fantastic UA-camr project here: www.robertwibecksartworks.com/works/asoiafyoutubers They're SO COOL Viper is doing House of the Dragon videos?? ua-cam.com/video/gbW8XdX5gdE/v-deo.htmlsi=FUoj8CwQYJaWKkhC This is a callout post for Random Internet Guy. Watch his video here so you can see how WRONG he is. ua-cam.com/video/zC9stoasmis...
The Heir to Casterly Rock - ASOIAF Theories
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Absolutely true theory not clickbait?? Thank you to @michaeltalksaboutstuff Also Tom is in the Ride for Roswell this year. You can donate if you want or whatever. give.roswellpark.org/goto/TomSilverINC Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub P.O. BO...
The Possessed Raven Theory ft. MichaelTalksAboutStuff - ASOIAF Theories
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Absolutely true theory not clickbait?? Thank you to @michaeltalksaboutstuff Also Tom is in the Ride for Roswell this year. You can donate if you want or whatever. give.roswellpark.org/goto/TomSilverINC Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we upload outtakes and additional madness. patreon.com/theinterestingnerdclub P.O. BO...
The Longest Election at the Night's Watch - ASOIAF Theories
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We actually made some theories this time. It's wild. Thank you to youtube.com/@MeeraReads for joining us on this one! Please go subscribe to her channel. Also Tom is in the Ride for Roswell this year. You can donate if you want or whatever. give.roswellpark.org/goto/TomSilverINC Zac's music channel is here: ua-cam.com/channels/CVdsCJEf-6dzCY1GCoDEOQ.html You can sub to our Patreon where we uplo...
Getting Hyped with House of the Dragon Trailer 2
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Getting Hyped with House of the Dragon Trailer 2
The Election of Jon Snow - Election Night in Westeros
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The Election of Jon Snow - Election Night in Westeros
What Will Happen in House of the Dragon - ASOIAF Theories
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What Will Happen in House of the Dragon - ASOIAF Theories
The Little Bird Theory ft. Fantasy Haven - ASOIAF Theories
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The Little Bird Theory ft. Fantasy Haven - ASOIAF Theories
Dunk's Foot - ASOIAF Theories
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Dunk's Foot - ASOIAF Theories
Every Vision in The House of the Undying - ASOIAF Theories
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Every Vision in The House of the Undying - ASOIAF Theories
The Summerhall Survivor - ASOIAF Theories
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The Summerhall Survivor - ASOIAF Theories
The Ward of Winterfell Theory - ASOIAF Theories
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The Ward of Winterfell Theory - ASOIAF Theories
Dunk and the Seven - ASOIAF Theories
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Dunk and the Seven - ASOIAF Theories
The Secrets of Arlan of Pennytree ft. RandomInternetGuy
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The Secrets of Arlan of Pennytree ft. RandomInternetGuy
The Great Council of 233 - Election Night in Westeros
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The Great Council of 233 - Election Night in Westeros
The Dead Tree Theory ft. MeeraReads
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The Dead Tree Theory ft. MeeraReads
a 25 minute video about dragon origins ft. MeeraReads
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a 25 minute video about dragon origins ft. MeeraReads
The "Good Crow/Bad Crow" Theory ft. Michael Talks About Stuff - ASOIAF Theories
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The "Good Crow/Bad Crow" Theory ft. Michael Talks About Stuff - ASOIAF Theories
The Three Walls Theory
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The Three Walls Theory
Jon Snow and The Council of Winter
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Jon Snow and The Council of Winter
Cersei Lannister's Master Plan
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Cersei Lannister's Master Plan
The Seaweed Theory
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The Seaweed Theory
The Fatherless Frey Theory
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The Fatherless Frey Theory

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  • @alpheuswoodley8435
    @alpheuswoodley8435 29 хвилин тому

    Seems the big problem is Bloodraven not being the 3 Eyed Crow

  • @alpheuswoodley8435
    @alpheuswoodley8435 Годину тому

    Michael 🥳

  • @Hannah-mu1uj
    @Hannah-mu1uj 3 години тому

    I think you may be right about Sansa experiencing a “fall” when she leaves the Eyrie, but I think it will be metaphorical rather than literal. Since GRRM likes to push characters to go against their original defining trait, I could see her running away - perhaps in a scandalous way like Lyanna - and gaining new powers after this fall from social grace and her status as a proper lady. People already say she’s a witch, it would be a fun subversion of her character if she went that way.

  • @user-xj6be1ch1g
    @user-xj6be1ch1g 6 годин тому

    You guys should let Duke talk more!

  • @lordxelizor
    @lordxelizor 6 годин тому

    Zac breaking canon in this video. Everybody knows Zac only watched through season 5 and jumped back in right at the very end so they could fully experience the train wreck. There’s no way Zac would’ve fallen asleep during the Long Night episode. Boy I really hope someone got fired for that blunder

  • @adamjinrakai
    @adamjinrakai 7 годин тому

    "its Metallica" lolol

  • @xuuhhhhh
    @xuuhhhhh 12 годин тому

    Horrible video; too much "ASOIAF theory" not enough jokes

  • @aneisleeper5515
    @aneisleeper5515 17 годин тому

    Pro tip : if you put a tinfoil hat on, you can hear GRRM's thoughts

  • @rjschlesinger9553
    @rjschlesinger9553 День тому

    5 months late but some thoughts: 1) Bran dying and resurrecting as a part of the new world tree also supports the idea of him as Bloodraven’s successor. Maybe he comes back as part of that tree, physically and mentally connected to it i.e. a new man in the tree 2) the Christ metaphor also works in that Jesus is referred to as “king of kings.” Maybe the bad dragon show’s election of Bran as King is their interpretation of George setting Bran up as this god-like entity who presides over the ruling families of Westeros at the end of DoS??? That way he can also enforce greater morals like not doing the old ways too

  • @KayTeeJay
    @KayTeeJay День тому

    Zeb, who is it?

  • @KaiHung-wv3ul
    @KaiHung-wv3ul День тому

    I thought only a member of the royal family could demand a trial by seven.

  • @NicSantiagoG
    @NicSantiagoG День тому

    Hodor

  • @alpheuswoodley8435
    @alpheuswoodley8435 День тому

    Roose Bolton via his maester is by far the best answer, and the best set up in the text

  • @Hegelianshitposting
    @Hegelianshitposting День тому

    As lacan says, man is the only creature that can tell the truth by lying

  • @jameskirkland3733
    @jameskirkland3733 2 дні тому

    I love the Children of the Florists call back, completely stopped everything I was doing to fully take in my enjoyment. Luckily, the algorithm pushed the videos in appropriate order as I'm new with like 7 days here

  • @jameskirkland3733
    @jameskirkland3733 2 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @dinglbarry1275
    @dinglbarry1275 2 дні тому

    I definitely don't think Ned is a good person even though he's by far better than most of the royal family clowns... he still blindly obeys... such as hacking the dudes head off at the beginning of the story (without hearing the dude out) because it's the law of the land.

  • @KaiHung-wv3ul
    @KaiHung-wv3ul 2 дні тому

    I will not abide this foul slander against Maester Aemon, this is preposterous, unacceptable! And the ridiculous conspiracy theory against our good monarch, the one true king Comrade Egg! Otherwise, good theory.

  • @wumbojet
    @wumbojet 2 дні тому

    I have hope that GRRM is a good writer and won't go down the road Attack on Titan went on, a kind of time travel that even when hinted at since the beginning, irreparably convolutes the story to a point where the character's original motivations are non existent and the time manipulation makes no sense both in a mechanical and a character writing standpoint

  • @AnnabelTheGoldsmith
    @AnnabelTheGoldsmith 2 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @itssky8302
    @itssky8302 2 дні тому

    At the end you asked for some other instances of time travel in media and I had to make myself pick just one so that I wouldn't be here forever and in that case I'm gonna talk about zero escape/999 now (spoilers obviously) So 999 is a puzzle game with branching paths, and the plot is that the 9 characters are trapped on a boat that will sink in 9 hours and they have to get through these 9 numbered puzzle rooms to escape, and over the course of the game you realize that, this puzzle game was done 9 years ago by someone else, and in that puzzle game that took place 9 years ago there was a girl who died- and at the end of the game you find out that the girl who died 9 years ago is the one who set up this game in the present because due to time travel shenanigans, it's required to solve a puzzle in the present in order to save her in the past, and she knew how to orchestrate the whole game in the present because she was having a future vision of it in the timeline from 9 years ago Basically what I find very compelling about it is the contrast of the fact the younger version of herself obviously didn't deserve to die, but in order to save herself she had to orchestrate this very terrible future The initial time travelling Bran theory really reminded me of that because (I might be wrong cause I haven't seen it in a while) in the original theory the idea is that Bran is trying repeatedly to escape Bloodravens cave alive and he keeps going back and altering details to make it happen, including destroying Hodor's mind. So it's a very similar scenario where normal Bran does not deserve to die, but time travelling Bran has had to do terrible things to make sure he lives Okay that's where I'm done rambling for now, awesome video, I love thinking about time travel

  • @aneisleeper5515
    @aneisleeper5515 2 дні тому

    Did Marwin cut Varys to light a glass candle ? Who knows....

  • @jordanford9320
    @jordanford9320 2 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @jordanford9320
    @jordanford9320 2 дні тому

    I think the biggest "lie being set up" alyene (sansa i lnow i butchered the spelling) basically being second in command in the vale going out of her way to set up the tourney to seduce harry the heir while lyijg about who she is how her aunt died and whats going go happen. Not to mention all the lying she had to do to survive kings landing. I remember hating sansa my first read through but now. . . i respect the hell out of what she's had to do to survive. 🫡 Sansa

  • @codybaker6621
    @codybaker6621 2 дні тому

    What if the hamme of the waters was a meteor that was magically called down?

  • @LearnByLeo
    @LearnByLeo 3 дні тому

    Hodor 😂

  • @huggalon
    @huggalon 3 дні тому

    The irony of talking about Bran time traveling to fix things while George is struggling to write because he ended a character he still needed. 🤣

  • @_UrethraFranklin
    @_UrethraFranklin 3 дні тому

    Re: Bran killing Ned n amount of times... what's the over/under on the number of times Bran wargs into Payne, passing the sentence and swinging the sword Ow, my heart

  • @celebalert5616
    @celebalert5616 3 дні тому

    Not watched it all yet so maybe it gets mentioned but my favourite lying Ned moment is when he accidentally calls the guy who everyone is supposed to believe kidnapped and did horrible things to his sister 'the finest knight I have ever known'

    • @justdirt
      @justdirt 3 дні тому

      Ned thinks of Rhaegar like 3 times throughout A Game of Thrones, and not once was the thought negative.

    • @celebalert5616
      @celebalert5616 3 дні тому

      @@justdirt caught in 4k 📸

  • @raygunonimx
    @raygunonimx 3 дні тому

    I think the lie might be “She was mad”

  • @entwifey
    @entwifey 3 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @itssky8302
    @itssky8302 3 дні тому

    hodor

  • @huggalon
    @huggalon 3 дні тому

    The theory Cersei accidently poisoned Joffery always seemed too far fetch to me. But if Cersei never thinks she has never done anything wrong. If she is able to lie so completely to dissociate in her mind, then maybe.... Tyrion was obviously the intended target. So in her crazy mind it would be Tyrion's fault. Littlefinger has been trying to get Tyrion killed from the start. Perhaps at Cersei's insistence. I don't think the Tyrells would kill Joffery until Margaery was with child.

  • @huggalon
    @huggalon 3 дні тому

    I think Ned's lies are the most important to the story/moral/theme. He became a martyr and is immortalized on a pedestal. I think George originally intended for Ned to actually be scheming for the throne for *someone*. Jon, Stannis or whoever. He is in such a clear position to obviously be up to something. The early drafts that were made public seem to indicate Ned being a different kind of person. Maybe the North really does remember, and Ned knows (or is influenced by 3 eyed raven) dragons will be really helpful next winter. But, if he was planning something from the start he would not let Jon join the Night's Watch. Unless Jon is actually his son or he planned to someone else to take the throne. I think George decided for whatever reason decided to make Ned a super good guy. But the set up was still left in place. In the early draft there was an editor note telling George to write Ned differently. Something about Ned's uncouth language that sounded rather more like Robert than Ned. I'm too deep in the Jon is Ned's son rabbit hole. Young Griff is Lyanna's son.

  • @giovanizumpichiatti2907
    @giovanizumpichiatti2907 3 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @codybaker6621
    @codybaker6621 3 дні тому

    Hodor

  • @kongming7684
    @kongming7684 3 дні тому

    I am still delusional enough to believe this theory. Maybe Heorge didnt want us hyping it before worldcon. The last time we got a full series update of the book covers was durijg the realse of ADWD. I still believe

  • @ryanwilliams9751
    @ryanwilliams9751 4 дні тому

    Hodor 😂😂😂

  • @jcritzz7837
    @jcritzz7837 4 дні тому

    Who was beat to death at the 7th minute?

  • @tempertempernow
    @tempertempernow 4 дні тому

    Pls pls add some loose chapter shortcuts

  • @bostonmetalclips
    @bostonmetalclips 4 дні тому

    Gendry was told to lie about who he is to Jon and doesn’t. Sansa lies to save Littlefinger.

  • @nisachar00
    @nisachar00 4 дні тому

    If the BDS is correct that Bran will ascend the throne (in which case I think he’s the Lord of Light as well as source of all prophecies), it follows then that the whole history and myth is a series of lies… But as Ygritte tells Jon, a Bard’s truth is different. The book is Martin’s truth then built on lies.

  • @KaiHung-wv3ul
    @KaiHung-wv3ul 4 дні тому

    Twice.

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae274 4 дні тому

    the Question of why is it better to kill men in Battle than at Dinner? His mom was at the dinner-ladies in waiting and kids etc. it isn't a Battle-it was a Wedding and they were not prepared. Think 'Trolly Problem' and then go at it. It was WRONG on EVERY level lol..and it was MURDER most foul.

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae274 4 дні тому

    it's HOW Ned lies that is interesting. In HIS thoughts, we don't get the reasoning really; he just does it. We are inside his head and he STILL doesn't give any warning as to that change. He IS lying to HIMSELF about the things he has done. And when he lies-he does so by NOT thinking about it. Damnit lol-I can say this better. I am so sorry. When Ned lies his thinking changes-how we read his thoughts-THOSE patterns start to change. Some of these characters KNOW that someone is reading their thoughts and they are guarded thoughts that WE are reading. Sansa is MUCH the same in her thinking-her lying. Lie by Omission or by Silence. And LIVE the lie as if it were truth-that means even in your thinking, live the lie even in your thouughts.

  • @DD-ok2pt
    @DD-ok2pt 4 дні тому

    like this a lot. History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes. It also adds to my long held theory that Ned is not the man we all think he is. There is so much information given in this tiny scene of Ned lying. GRRM shows us Ned’s “tells” when he lies (He préfères to use omission than straight up lying) and it also shows us WHY he lies. It is then up to the reader to find other “rhythms”. The true nature of Ned’s lie of omission is that he is trying to hide the fact that he found out that Cersei’s children were fathered by her brother Jamie. He thinks he is protecting Cersei from certain DEATH if it is found out. Here is rhyme I found years ago and this is a variation of the same theme I never realized . Ned is lying about Jon’s birth. It is a lie within a lie and the only thing that keeps it from being found out is that he absolutely refuses to discuss it with anyone, not his wife nor his very best friend in the world Robert. It is the same lie he wrote in Roberts will (it rhymes) but since this happened earlier he was able to “tweak” the lie in Robert’s will in order to save the mother whereas the original he was not able to save because he killed the mother, Lyanna. I have said this for years B+L=J: Benjen+Lyanna=Jon This is why Jon looks more Stark than the Stark children because is is 100% Stark. There are scenarios that point to this. The first is Ned killing Lady. After Ned kills Lady he uses his limited resources of men to escort her bones back to Winterfell to be buried in the crypts. There is a similar story that rhymes with this… Ned makes sure that another “lady” of Winterfell’s bones are transported back to be buried in the crypts … his sister Lyanna, even though women were not buried in the crypt. One of the very first scenes was Ned coming upon a pregnant female direwolf that had been killed by a stag. Pregnant female direwolf = Lyanna was killed BECAUSE of a Stag=Robert Baratheon . Ned killed Lyanna because she was betrothed to Robert and this pregnancy would shame their family. I think Ned killed Lyanna and sent Benjen to the wall where he would never be able to inherit Winterfell nor have children. The first mention of fatherhood was between Benjen and Jon. The scene with the dead direwolf also showed us Ned’s reaction … he immediately wanted to kill the pups. I think he wanted to kill Jon. In fact, I think that Ned had killed Lyanna and she momentarily resurrected and said “promise me Ned” not to kill the baby. This is why he made sure to bury her in the crypt to her her spirit trapped. Ned’s reticence regarding writing Robert’s will is because of his own actions not the lie itself. Something happened so shocking that is why he tries to avoid it with Cersei and with killing Daenerys as a child. What connects all three of these stories , they are children born from brothers with sisters.

  • @DD-ok2pt
    @DD-ok2pt 4 дні тому

    I like this a lot. History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes. It also adds to my long held theory that Ned is not the man we all think he is. There is so much information given in this tiny scene of Ned lying. GRRM shows us Ned’s “tells” when he lies (He préfères to use omission than straight up lying) and it also shows us WHY he lies. It is then up to the reader to find other “rhythms”. The true nature of Ned’s lie of omission is that he is trying to hide the fact that he found out that Cersei’s children were fathered by her brother Jamie. He thinks he is protecting Cersei from certain DEATH if it is found out. Here is rhyme I found years ago and this is a variation of the same theme I never realized . Ned is lying about Jon’s birth. It is a lie within a lie and the only thing that keeps it from being found out is that he absolutely refuses to discuss it with anyone, not his wife nor his very best friend in the world Robert. It is the same lie he wrote in Roberts will (it rhymes) but since this happened earlier he was able to “tweak” the lie in Robert’s will in order to save the mother whereas the original he was not able to save because he killed the mother, Lyanna. I have said this for years B+L=J: Benjen+Lyanna=Jon This is why Jon looks more Stark than the Stark children because is is 100% Stark. There are scenarios that point to this. The first is Ned killing Lady. After Ned kills Lady he uses his limited resources of men to escort her bones back to Winterfell to be buried in the crypts. There is a similar story that rhymes with this… Ned makes sure that another “lady” of Winterfell’s bones are transported back to be buried in the crypts … his sister Lyanna, even though women were not buried in the crypt. One of the very first scenes was Ned coming upon a pregnant female direwolf that had been killed by a stag. Pregnant female direwolf = Lyanna was killed BECAUSE of a Stag=Robert Baratheon . Ned killed Lyanna because she was betrothed to Robert and this pregnancy would shame their family. I think Ned killed Lyanna and sent Benjen to the wall where he would never be able to inherit Winterfell nor have children. The first mention of fatherhood was between Benjen and Jon. The scene with the dead direwolf also showed us Ned’s reaction … he immediately wanted to kill the pups. I think he wanted to kill Jon. In fact, I think that Ned had killed Lyanna and she momentarily resurrected and said “promise me Ned” not to kill the baby. This is why he made sure to bury her in the crypt to her her spirit trapped. Ned’s reticence regarding writing Robert’s will is because of his own actions not the lie itself. Something happened so shocking that is why he tries to avoid it with Cersei and with killing Daenerys as a child. What connects all three of these stories , they are children born from brothers with sisters.

    • @Elliot226
      @Elliot226 3 дні тому

      I really don't think Ned would kinslay his sister. The rest is quite interesting to consider. And we see that the one thing Ned will never do is kill children, so I don't think even if Jon was an incest baby that he would ever have had any desire to kill him. Ned has an undying love for Lyanna. At worst he ended her suffering from whatever mortal wound she already had (be it childbirth or a battle wound). But he wouldn't outright murder her. Ned's also the last person to pretty much reluctantly agree that killing the direwolf pups would be better than them suffering and starving to death, it wasn't immediate (that was Theon and Hullen). He brought Lyanna home because that's where she wanted to be laid to rest. If he wanted to trap her, he would've just left her at the tower with the others he didn't bother to bring home so her spirit could never rest. Also the first mention of fatherhood is about Ned to Jon and the other boys when he says "let's see what mischief my sons have gotten into now" (or some such, paraphrasing). Not saying that means anything but that it was the actual first time it's mentioned in the books. But I think it's an interesting concept since we don't know why Benjen was sent to the wall or if he went willingly. But Ned at least accepts him back in Winterfell, so it can't be THAT egregious or Benjen wouldn't be the Night's Watch representative or there to visit.

  • @stevendorries
    @stevendorries 4 дні тому

    1:15 lies begin

  • @lordxelizor
    @lordxelizor 4 дні тому

    The Woman in White by Willie Collins is one of if not the first books to use animals not liking someone as foreshadowing for them being evil. I only bring this up because that book is terrific and more people should read it

  • @lordxelizor
    @lordxelizor 4 дні тому

    Portland Oregon mentioned