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The model 3050 has bee out of production for a while now. Even the model that replaced it, the 3050i is old. The replacement models is the 5040 which run about $750/pr 3050 Pair - www.amazon.com/Acoustics-Floorstanding-Speakers-Graphite-Speaker/dp/B0CB46XSCB/ 5040 Pair - $750/pr - www.amazon.com/Acoustics-Floorstanding-Speaker-Satin-Single/dp/B0C2HWXLZ4/ Understand that while the speaker have good sounding bass, the bass doesn't go that deep. However, that makes it easier to integrated a Subwoofer at some point in the future. EMOTIVA Airmotiv T1+ - originally $899 - Now - $499/pr - emotiva.com/collections/loudspeakers/products/airmotiv-t1-loudspeakers That is a difficult call. I would be inclined to say the Emotiva simply because they are a 3-Way speaker with a considerably higher original price. But I've not heard them. Also, I find it hard to resist a bargain.

For some reason, UA-cam muted the Sound, even thought the same music is in other videos. Now sure why though.

Not Power Hungry, they have a relatively high efficiency rating and I have easily driven them with a 50w/ch Onkyo.

@@blueboyblue Thanks man! Keep it up!

That is nearly impossible to answer since I don't know the size of your room and your other equipment. The 3050 are a larger speakers, need some space around them, and will have pretty good bass, but the Concept 20 are very clear speakers but smaller and with less bass. Depending on the room size, the Concept 20 with a good Subwoofer could be the better choice. But that comes with problems of its own. Really, what ever you choose will be fine, but you have to suit what you choose to your budget, circumstances, and other equipment.

Thank you my BROTHER. Much love. I went with 3050i 3010i 3060s sub and 3090ci Running OFC 14awg Sounds like imax

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I think you are probably right. That's why I emphasized that these speakers would work very well with a Subwoofer.

Yes, though UA-cam videos tend to slightly boost the highs and slightly soften the bass.

DALI is a solid company, and if you like those particular speakers, I don't think you will be disappointed. Here is a guy that has some pretty good demos of the Zenor 7 speakers - ua-cam.com/video/8kkvfm-n3Ug/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/zbErrVYc-tI/v-deo.html Though keep in mind that UA-cam's Video/Audio compression tends to soften the bass, and emphasize the treble, but these video sound pretty good. Nice and clear and crisp.

The Wharfedale Speakers originally sold for about US$1,000/pr. Subsequent generations sold for about $1,500/pr. I'm not sure they have an equivalent 8" model in the current line up though. The nearest equivalent in the current Diamond series would be the Diamond 12.4 which have TWO 6.5" Bass drivers each instead of TWO 8". Current price on the Diamond 12.4 is about US1,300/pr. The previous version, Diamond 11.5 did have 2x8" models and they sold for about $1,500/pr.

I don't see a problem, the Cambridge are good amps.

> _"do you think it pays to sell the wharfedale 9.6 and exchange for the purchase of the Q Acoustc 3050, or do the two remain in equal sound and performance?"_ I don't think the W-9.6 and the Q-A 3050 are in the same price class. The Wharfedale cost considerably more money, and have a more refined sound, though the Q-A 3050 still sounds good. The Wharfedale have 2x8" (200mm) bass drivers and the Q-A 3050 have 2x6.5" (165mm) bass drivers. So while I liked the Q-A 3050, I would not trade my Wharfedale for them. However, only you can know what you like. You have to decide based on your Budget, and the size of your room, and your personal taste. But for myself, I would prefer the Wharfedale in my room. My room is about 16ft wide (~5m) but it is open floorplan and is 35ft (10.7m) long, that gives me lots of space for the Wharfedale Speakers. So, the size of the room will be a consideration. Both are good speakers, but I think the Wharfedale are better quality and I like the sound. Were I to get rid of my Wharfedale it would be for speakers in the $4,000/pr to $6,000/pr range (£3300 to £4900). Still the ultimate decision is based on your taste and your circumstances.

@@blueboyblue Excellent answer! I don't really want to sell the wharfedale 9.6 until I'm sure I find the best one! Here in Portugal, we don't have physical stores to compare Q Acostics 3030 to listen to and other brands. The economic crisis caused this market to close. I know that Q ACOUSTIC are highly praised, but after seeing your opinion, I changed my mind because I know that it is not an opinion based on commercial ideas and purposes. Sometimes I doubt the opinions of what-hifi and other magazines. I must commend your very sincere opinion about wharfedale and Q acoustic. By the way, what do you think the top speakers would be for me to rise to an audiophile level? I know that there are several brands, including B&W, tannoy, JBL, QUAD, JM Focal, Proac and many more. Do you know of a model or brand that I can buy on the used ebay site that is superior to wharfedale 9.6?

@@blueboyblue Since I don't know if you noticed, I created my own channel to promote quality recordings, for the listener to have a perception with a certain brand and amplifier quality. If you want to hear my recordings you are invited. I will say something you should know .... When I bought wharfedale 9.6, your channel was a reference reference on youtube to listen to and be able to draw some conclusions about the speakers. So after listening to the recordings of your channel I lost my fear and bought the wharfedale 9.6 and served as motivation to create my channel #hifirec. There are some amplifiers and speakers that I have at home that on UA-cam the listener cannot find quality recordings. Soon I will make recordings of wharfedale 9.6 on my channel with quality for those who are interested, as there is no great variety on youtube to hear about wharfedale 9.6. My channel created with the purpose to publish quality recordings that are not available on youtube without commercial objectives or for profitable purposes. Greetings and a thank you

@@hifirec5337 - -The Q Acoustic 3050 are good speakers, I praised them myself. But they are smaller speakers with poorer Bass Response. I think my 2x8" Wharfedale go down to 28hz. The Q Acoustic 3050 go down to about 45hz.

@@blueboyblue But do you know any model or brand of superior speaker that justifies the exchange of wharfedale 9.6?

Not sure what you mean, but remember that UA-cam tends to soften the bass and slightly boost the highs. I have on occasion tried to compensate, but that's a dicey task at best.

​@@blueboyblue You can hear the voices very well in the talking region, but there is a very small dip or lack of detail in the 2-3 khz section, resulting in more collected emotion (so not a "teenager" in-your-face type). This is all fine though, because it is a particular British sound. Voices are more stylized.

@@zweer13 - - British sound from British Speakers.

You have to understand that even at its best, UA-cam sound is compromised.

@@blueboyblue yes indeed I am not criticise them just expressing what I can hear and of course YT is just the messanger but from experience I can tell that it is not my taste... Nice set of speakers but compare to others shown also on YT sounds bit limited in bass sorry... I own bookshelf Epos 12.2 paired with amp Creek Evo supported by Velodine subwoofer that is maybe why I am being so picky... Sorry ❤️

Generally, I think that is an OK amp. The Rotel are fairly neutral, so should works well. Though it will depend on your personal taste. The A11 Tribute is about 50w/ch, not high powered, but it should be fine. Looking at UK prices, it is about £499. USA about $799, that's a lot of money. www.rotel.com/sites/default/files/product/infosheets/A11%20Tribute_InfoSheet.pdf www.audioadvice.com/rotel-a11-tribute-50-watt-stereo-integrated-amplifier.html You might want to consider the more powerful and with more features, the Yamaha Amps - www.crutchfield.com/p_022AS701S/Yamaha-A-S701-Silver.html www.crutchfield.com/p_022AS801S/Yamaha-A-S801-Silver.html If you want an amp packed with features, then consider the Yamaha RN803 with Network Streaming, Room-EQ, and Full Bass Management. www.crutchfield.com/p_022RN803/Yamaha-R-N803.html Rotel are definitely good quality amps, but the Yamaha are still good amps and very high value.

@@blueboyblue Thank you so much for your details and information. I highly appreciate it. I've been looking at prices where I live (Spain) and I've found the Rotel A11 Tribute for 500€, so I think it's a good price. Moreover, I'll definetely check the Yamaha amps you sent me and I'll keep them in mind. They usually offer very good quality for the price. Thanks again!

Isn't the RS700 about 100 watts per channel?

@@blueboyblue So it is, but the 9.6 are really hard, and to move them with ease they need more watts. It's also not that I put the amplifier to the full, but with less volume now they take more detail and give them new life. Although one day I turn up the volume quite a bit and the 9.6 doesn't distort anything. The Cerwin has more than twice the power of the R-s700, I've never maxed it out and I don't know if they'd last 9.6, but it seems pretty yes. Very good speakers, greetings.

I had some JBL Stadium Venue (2x8" each), but they were too bass heavy and that meant they couldn't have close placement. I would say the speakers need 2 feet or more of space behind them to sound right. Now I can't say about the JBL E90, but they are big speakers, if you are considering them, make sure you have space for them. You absolutely can NOT place any speaker back against the wall and expect them to sound right.

@@blueboyblue Thank u for respond then i should go for 9.6s good balanced sound.İ have e30 their sounds bassy too but very dinamic and open sound.thanx bro

@@triplecrescend7288 The Diamond 9.6 are several generations old, they don't make them any more. Are you sure you can get a pair? I believe Wharfedale just came out with the new Diamond 12 Series. But the Diamond 11 Series are still readily available.

@@blueboyblue i know new series but i herd new series hasnt quality sound any more...9.6 is the last generation of audiophile quality sound and very popular in my country.i wonder how u think about dat and comparing with audio monitor series (bronze and mr)

Indeed very sweet speakers.

Which is better for What? The 3050 is very nice, but it is a big speaker. I've not heard the 3030i, but I think that might be a larger 6.5" bookshelf, which should be pretty nice and certainly more compact. It is down to the Cash you have available and the space available. Both are good at what they do, but they don't necessarily do the same thing. However, in terms of general tone and clarity, they should be about equal. It is near impossible to give a definitive answer to this question though.

There was a copyright strike against this video ..for some reason... so it was muted, but in all honesty, the audio quality was pretty trashy anyway. Listen to the videos of the individual speakers.

@@blueboyblue don't you think it's pointless having the video publically available then the point of the video is for an audio comparison but there's no sound now so it makes the video useless at the moment. Maybe make it private for the moment and hope you can get the copyright removed so that you can make the video public again?

@@Steve30x - - It is the only video that shows all three speakers side by side so you can some sense of their size relative to each other. It is worth it just for that. Further, I have explained many time why the video is muted.

These are a bit lacking in bass because they are small speaker, but other than that, they sound very good.

It sounds pretty good even on UA-cam, though remember that UA-cam tend to emphasize Mid/High while down playing Bass. Still an impressive speaker.

Difficult to say, both are good speakers, but the ELAC B5.2 has deeper bass response if that means anything to you.

@@blueboyblue thank's!

You might want to check the rated Sensitivity on the Speaker, as it approaches 90db or higher, the more efficient it is and the easier it is to drive with a lower powered Amp. But generally I don't see a problem with Tube or Solid State.

All music is Analog, but I used Optical Digital Audio Out of the TV to the Optical DAC. The RXV683 is an OK mid-priced AV Receiver.

@@blueboyblue ok. Thanks for your help buddy. Have a good day.

I have both - brand new XT8F's and second hand Diamonds 9.6. I paid 750 GBP (it was a bargain price at Peter Tyson) for Tannoys and around 120 pounds fo Diamonds, and I think I have overpaid in the second case. Muddy, muffled, flat (bas wise) sound, lacking dynamics from Wharfedale. I love the looks of these speakers but sound is awful in my opinion. Revolution XT8F is in a completely different league. Bass is better, treble is better, mids are better, imaging is much better. And the dynamics - it is better also. I run both pairs with Yamaha A-S 1100. Honestly - I think that Diamonds 9.1 are way better than 9.6.

@@becin2107 ooo, i see. Thank you very much for sharing.

NO. It is a _Low-Bass, Mid-Bass, Midrange, Tweeter_ arranged in a _3.5-Way system._ Meaning that at low frequencies BOTH Bass Drivers are working; at Mid-Bass frequencies only the Top Bass Driver is working.

@@blueboyblue Got it. Thank you very much.

UA-cam videos emphasize the Mid/High and de-emphasize Bass, so perhaps that is what you are hearing. Both are actually pretty mellow speakers. Not lacking in Mid/High, but not as emphasized as UA-cam videos make them seem.

The Q-Acoustic 3050 or 3050i have a bit more Mid/High but less Bass Depth than the Diamond 9.6. I like the Diamond 9.6 for music, but for movies with more dialog, I would prefer a bit more Mid/High. Not familiar with that specific Rotel Amp (1552), but it should be fine. Rotel makes pretty decent amps.

​@@blueboyblue Thanks, I already have the Wharfedale, I guess not worth replacing them for the Q3050 for music....

As I previously mentioned, in person it is not too bright and Rotel are certainly not bright amps. But in the video UA-cam tends to favor Mid/High and to soften the bass. So, mostly you are hearing a general characteristic of the audio of UA-cam video.

@@blueboyblue 100% agree i own these speakers plus the Rotel a11 tribute and to me, it sounds warm and neutral but clean sounding and no sounds seem to confuse each other. The sounds just blend in nicely. Before I owned the Rotel I owned a Denon PMA600NE which at first liked it a lot but after listening to it for a month it was far to harsh sounding to me with very bright treble and nowhere close to the Rotel for been clean sounding .The Denon PMA600NE made my ears hurt after a while and it wasn't nice to listen for long periods.

I think it all depends on the size of the room. While my room may not be very wide, but it is 35ft long, so I have plenty of space for the speakers to play into. I suspect the general sound signature is going to be the same on the various models, but the bigger and more bass drivers, the more impact and sense of bass you will find. Keep in mind, that many people have the 10.1 and the 10.2 (9.1/9.2) bookshelf speakers and are overjoyed with them. So, you get speakers in proportion to you room and your particular needs.

@@blueboyblue I have some wharfedale Atlantic 400's but wanting to go to the Diamond 9.5... Thoughts?

@@ozgreeny - - Not familiar with the Atlantic, but the Diamond-Series are Wharfedale's Bread and Butter. These are the high volume sellers and highly rated speakers. Unless I am mistaken, the Diamond 9.5 have 2x6.5" bass drivers and the 9.5 have 2x8" bass drivers. For most people in most rooms 2x6.5" is more than enough. I would speculate, though I don't know for sure, that the Atlantic is a lower series than the Diamond.

@@blueboyblue Pretty sure the Atlantic are a step down...Brought a pair of Diamonds in the black Friday sale... Just waiting on them to arrive..Wife wanted black to go with everything else... I got Rosewood, lol. Cheers mate

@@blueboyblue I have just looked at what i brought and it seems our 9.5's are the same as your 9.6's... www.wharfedale.com.au/collections/black-friday-sale-2019/products/diamond-9-5-floorstanding-speakers

Yeah, UA-cam cut off the audio for some reason. But this was a terrible video anyway, not sure why, but the sound quality just didn't cut it. However, you can find good quality videos of the speakers individually on my channel.

No, while these are very nice metal stands, any reasonable stand will do.

@@blueboyblue noted with thanks

_" ...perhaps one of the best video review of Concept 20."_ The secret to getting good sound, it to not record with the volume too high. If you raise the volume too high it starts to distort the Camera microphone and to engage the automatic volume control for the Camera electronics. Around 75db seems to be about as high as you can go without creating distortion in the recording.