DEMO: Rotel RA-1570 + Q Acoustic 3050

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2024

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  • @HiFiman4u
    @HiFiman4u 2 роки тому +2

    If you really want these speakers to shine use the port plug and add a subwoofer. The midrange improves drastically.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  2 роки тому

      I think you are probably right. That's why I emphasized that these speakers would work very well with a Subwoofer.

  • @exionem
    @exionem Рік тому

    Amazon has these currently on sale for 500 a pair. I was thinking about getting the more powerful Emotiva t1s but I can´t decide since these sound great.
    Decisions...😁

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  Рік тому

      The model 3050 has bee out of production for a while now. Even the model that replaced it, the 3050i is old. The replacement models is the 5040 which run about $750/pr
      3050 Pair - www.amazon.com/Acoustics-Floorstanding-Speakers-Graphite-Speaker/dp/B0CB46XSCB/
      5040 Pair - $750/pr - www.amazon.com/Acoustics-Floorstanding-Speaker-Satin-Single/dp/B0C2HWXLZ4/
      Understand that while the speaker have good sounding bass, the bass doesn't go that deep. However, that makes it easier to integrated a Subwoofer at some point in the future.
      EMOTIVA Airmotiv T1+ - originally $899 - Now - $499/pr - emotiva.com/collections/loudspeakers/products/airmotiv-t1-loudspeakers
      That is a difficult call. I would be inclined to say the Emotiva simply because they are a 3-Way speaker with a considerably higher original price. But I've not heard them. Also, I find it hard to resist a bargain.

  • @partia7
    @partia7 Рік тому

    Hi. In terms of sound, this speaker is at the level of which focal or b&w speaker??

  • @weedfast
    @weedfast 7 років тому +2

    Q acoustics 3050 are very good speakers for the price ! I have a Heed Audio Elixir amp to drive them : Excellent couple :) Sorry for my english (french)

    • @MrTyrrell86
      @MrTyrrell86 7 років тому

      vous quel compagnon ?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  6 років тому

      The are very nice clear and detailed speakers for the money. I was impressed.

  • @HiFiman4u
    @HiFiman4u 2 роки тому +1

    I run mine with a Rotel A-12 integrated amp that does 60w/ch rms and they can play crazy loud. I use this set up in my Asian home. My USA system is much better but costs a lot more money.

  • @laurentlemorellec1522
    @laurentlemorellec1522 3 роки тому

    Hi. Just discovered your video because I intend to buy these speakers, I have a Cambridge cxa81. What do you think of this combnation? Thanks

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  3 роки тому

      I don't see a problem, the Cambridge are good amps.

  • @kizabgd6191
    @kizabgd6191 5 років тому

    Rotel is to bright for Q's !! Amin !!

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому

      As I previously mentioned, in person it is not too bright and Rotel are certainly not bright amps. But in the video UA-cam tends to favor Mid/High and to soften the bass. So, mostly you are hearing a general characteristic of the audio of UA-cam video.

    • @ABCD-yu5ii
      @ABCD-yu5ii 2 роки тому

      @@blueboyblue 100% agree i own these speakers plus the Rotel a11 tribute and to me, it sounds warm and neutral but clean sounding and no sounds seem to confuse each other. The sounds just blend in nicely. Before I owned the Rotel I owned a Denon PMA600NE which at first liked it a lot but after listening to it for a month it was far to harsh sounding to me with very bright treble and nowhere close to the Rotel for been clean sounding .The Denon PMA600NE made my ears hurt after a while and it wasn't nice to listen for long periods.

  • @froutts
    @froutts 5 років тому

    Hi, guess you will not get this quickly enough, but i am looking to buy either q3050 or diamond 10.6 for music, rock to acoustic to orchestral.. the diamond being a lot older are on special $$200 cheaper than the Q3050. which way would you go? thanks

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому

      You need to look at the specs of the speakers -
      Q Acoustic 3050 - Frequency Response (+/- 3 dB): 44Hz - 22kHz, Nominal Impedance: 6ohm, Sensitivity: 92dB
      www.qacoustics.co.uk/q-acoustics-3050-floorstanding-speakers-pair.html
      Wharfadale Diamond 10.6 - 6 ohms, 88 dB, 35Hz - 24kHz -
      www.musicdirect.com/speakers/wharfedale-diamond-106-tower-speakers-pr
      Both have TWO 6.5" bass drivers, but the Wharfedale go a bit deeper. Both are good speakers, you just have to work out what best fits you. The Wharfedale might be a bit more laid-back than the 3050 by not by much. Both do sound very good. To some extent it depends on you and the space you are in, and how suitable the speakers are to the space.
      As you can see from the link above, the Diamond 10.6 originally sold for about US$1000/pair. The 3050 are available for about $600/pair and the newer 3050i are available for about $800/pair. You really can't go wrong either way. The Diamond 10.6 originally cost more, but now they cost less. You have to work out the best value for yourself.
      I don't have the Diamond 10.6, but I do have the 2x8" Diamond 9.6 which can be heard playing the same music here -
      ua-cam.com/video/Y-QyCBFCTtM/v-deo.html
      I don't think there is a wrong choice assuming the speakers are in Like-New condition.

  • @arpeemac
    @arpeemac 2 роки тому

    using my headphones, this speaker seems to be warm and smooth. the highs are not too harsh and the mids are very clear. is that right?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  2 роки тому

      Yes, though UA-cam videos tend to slightly boost the highs and slightly soften the bass.

  • @zanande974
    @zanande974 5 років тому

    I gues you have Wharfedale DIamond 9.6 on the video... How are the Q acoustics compare to them ? (I want to replace my wharfedale with th Q3050). I also have a Rotel 1552 amp, i hop it will suit fine with Q acoustics thks

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому

      The Q-Acoustic 3050 or 3050i have a bit more Mid/High but less Bass Depth than the Diamond 9.6. I like the Diamond 9.6 for music, but for movies with more dialog, I would prefer a bit more Mid/High. Not familiar with that specific Rotel Amp (1552), but it should be fine. Rotel makes pretty decent amps.

    • @zanande974
      @zanande974 5 років тому

      ​@@blueboyblue Thanks, I already have the Wharfedale, I guess not worth replacing them for the Q3050 for music....

  • @albsb490
    @albsb490 7 років тому

    Hi, what is your opinion about matching it with rotel ra-12? I need a crispy sound because in my house I haven't much middle and treble.
    Thanks

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      You would have to judge for yourself. The Rotel RA-12 is about 60w/ch which should be fine. I believe the RA-12 also has Digital Inputs. And, though it is not cheap, there is a NEW Rotel RA-14 out now. Haven't seen or read too much about it beyond the fact that Rotel Introduced it.
      In buying and amp, you need to consider Price, Quality, and Features. Price and Quality are obviously tied, but remember as the quality gets higher, the amount of amp you get for a fixed amount of money becomes lesser. You can get a 100w/ch Consumer Amp or you can get a 50w/ch High End Amp.
      The same with features. The Yamaha RN602 is very high in feature including multiple digital inputs, Bluetooth, and Network Streaming. Price at roughly $600. The Musical Fidelity A15.3 is a very basic no frills 50w/ch Integrated Amp for about $550 - no digital, no tone controls, no Bluetooth, no streaming - just a volume knob and a selector switch, but is generally considered a very high quality amp. You have to set your priorities.
      The Rotel A-12 runs about $900, for the same $900 you could get a 100w/ch Yamaha AS801 -
      www.abt.com/product/108657/Rotel-A12-Black-Integrated-Amplifier-FR51242.html
      www.abt.com/product/105836/Yamaha-Black-Integrated-Amplifier-AS801BL.html
      And for what it is worth, the Rotel A14 with 80w/ch is $1299 -
      www.abt.com/product/108662/Rotel-A14-Black-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier-FR51243.html

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      Actually the NEW Rotel Amps are the R12 (60w/ch) and the R14 (80w/ch). A bit on the expensive side, but very good amps. As you can see I have the RA-1570, which has now been replaced by the RA-1572. Virtually the same, but the RA-1572 has a Network Input. I think the intend is that this allows you to control the system using a Smart Phone APP, but I read on a Forum that some people are able to use this Network Connection to Stream Music using third party software. Though I can't be sure, I think they said they were using J.River software.

  • @izmirtravesti7288
    @izmirtravesti7288 6 років тому

    Hi, thanks for video. i'll buy Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 or Q Acoustic 3050. Which one better in your opinion? They are same price in here. Thanks for advice.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  6 років тому +1

      izmir Travesti - - The _Diamond 9.6_ are no longer made, but you might be able to get them used. The nearly current version would be the _Diamond 250_ which are currently on close-out for about $1300/pr from Music Direct. The newest replacement would be the _Diamond 11. 5_ which are about $1700. Both the _250_ and the _11.5_ have 2x8" bass drivers with reasonably deep response, in the low to mid 30hz range. The Q Acoustic 3050 are now the 3050i, an improved version. The older Q Acoustic 3050 are $600/pr on Amazon. The newer 3050i are about $800/pr on Amazon. That's quite a price difference. The Q Acoustic 3050/3050i have 2x6.5" bass driver and modest bass depth, rated at about 44hz, but the bass does sound good on the 3050. Very clear and balanced speakers, and the 44hz bass rating is not all bad, it would make it easy to add a Subwoofer to a Stereo system that does NOT have Bass Management. As to my personal preference, I like my Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 as they have larger bass drivers (2x8" each) and deeper bass at about 32hz. Also keep in mind that there are 2x6.5" version of the Diamond 200 Series and the newer Diamond 11 Series. These are going to be down closer to $1000/pr from Music Direct. Music Direct also still has some Diamond 10.7 available with 2x6.5" Bass Driver at $700/pr while the supply lasts.

    • @izmirtravesti7288
      @izmirtravesti7288 6 років тому

      @@blueboyblue Really thank you for detailed answer. Diamond 250 and Diamond 11.5 not found in local here. I would like see and buy them. Used clear Diamond 9.6 + 9.2 bookshelf + 9.cs Center totally $650. New Q Acoustics 3050 is $620. I think better for me choose to Diamond 9.6 because they are not bad speakers and not much difference with Q Acoustics 3050. Thanks for help, you are great man! Greetings for Turkey.

    • @heyaa8384
      @heyaa8384 6 років тому

      Izmirli hangisini aldin ? 3050 mi 9.6 . ende 3050 bakiyorum ama sesi tecrube edinemedim . bilgin varmı

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  6 років тому

      @@heyaa8384 - Translate - Which one did Izmirli take? 3050 or 9.6. I look at 3050 but I couldn't get the experience. do you know?
      I am not sure. Perhaps he hasn't decided yet.
      Emin değilim. Belki de henüz karar vermedi.

  • @rdroid2438
    @rdroid2438 2 роки тому

    Should i get the concept 20 for $500us or the 3050 for $820.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  2 роки тому

      That is nearly impossible to answer since I don't know the size of your room and your other equipment. The 3050 are a larger speakers, need some space around them, and will have pretty good bass, but the Concept 20 are very clear speakers but smaller and with less bass. Depending on the room size, the Concept 20 with a good Subwoofer could be the better choice. But that comes with problems of its own. Really, what ever you choose will be fine, but you have to suit what you choose to your budget, circumstances, and other equipment.

    • @rdroid2438
      @rdroid2438 2 роки тому

      Thank you my BROTHER. Much love.
      I went with 3050i 3010i 3060s sub and 3090ci
      Running OFC 14awg
      Sounds like imax

    • @rdroid2438
      @rdroid2438 2 роки тому

      Rooms 17x14

  • @raikkonenkmi
    @raikkonenkmi 7 років тому

    hi! nice videos! do they tend to get bright? do you think marantz pm6006 will do enough? thanks

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому +2

      The Marantz PM6006 is a very good 45w/ch amp, and should have no trouble driving these or just about any other speaker. Marantz hits a high standard of quality, but Yamaha provides better value. Either one should be no problem. For most of my life I drove large 12" speakers with a 45w/ch Pioneer amp. So I don't see a problem.
      The speakers are very well balanced. They do have good Mid/High presence, but do so without being overly bright. They are a smooth speaker that does not sacrifice fine detail.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому +1

      Oh and no they are not bright. They have good Mid/High presence, but not remotely in excess. They are very smooth and easy to listen to.

  • @jth1670
    @jth1670 7 років тому

    did you have the EQ flats on your rotel? I'm thinking of buying a pair of these to pair with the Peachtree nova150 (which has no EQ)

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      Yes, it the tone was set to ZERO. Because my Camera lacks a bit of bass, I would have boosted it a bit, and it would have sounded more natural. That is, it would have sounded a bit more like what I was hearing in the
      room. All the speaker have better bass than my camera allows for. However, I thought that was cheating, especially since this was a review. On a few videos, like this one, I believe I boosted the bass control to about 2 o'clock, so even when I boost, I don't boost that much. - - - ua-cam.com/video/ALpUv6OWT-0/v-deo.html - - - this probably sounds a bit closer to what I heard in the room.

    • @jth1670
      @jth1670 7 років тому

      Thanks! Those 3050 are definately on my list. Would like the concept 40 in a 6.5" version but they don't make this. The concept 500 will be out my budget!

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      The bass is very good on the 3050, even though the specs aren't that low. I could feel it in the room, but it still manages to stay controlled and clean.

  • @MrRshd
    @MrRshd 7 років тому

    Many thanks sir for the review, i own 3020, 3090c and 3010.. now i'm thnking to own 3050 for Front for movie, hometheater set maybe atmos setup..
    Hope you can advice me to decide either im buying 3050 or Klipsch RP..

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  6 років тому

      I must not be getting notices when people reply to my videos. If I had I wold have answered this post long ago. The QA 3050 are very nice speakers as you can hear. But the new Klipsch RP-Series are also very good speakers. They have a Rubberized Horn that really cuts down on unwanted resonance. The Klipsch RP-Series are some of the best affordable speakers that Klipsch has made in a long time.

  • @Severinos1
    @Severinos1 3 роки тому

    Nice and open sound and the bass sounds bit compressed in my taste and highs to sssssish... But nice set of radiators anyway 😄

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  3 роки тому +2

      You have to understand that even at its best, UA-cam sound is compromised.

    • @Severinos1
      @Severinos1 3 роки тому

      @@blueboyblue yes indeed I am not criticise them just expressing what I can hear and of course YT is just the messanger but from experience I can tell that it is not my taste... Nice set of speakers but compare to others shown also on YT sounds bit limited in bass sorry... I own bookshelf Epos 12.2 paired with amp Creek Evo supported by Velodine subwoofer that is maybe why I am being so picky... Sorry ❤️

  • @zarrath35
    @zarrath35 5 років тому

    Do you recommend this one over zensor 7 ? I am having difficulties chosing one of them

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому +1

      The ZENSOR 7 are very nice speakers, and currently on deep discounts in the UK. Though that many not help you. Which to choose is difficult, but... there is no wrong choice, both are good speakers. I might lean a bit more toward the Zensor 7 because of the bigger bass drivers, but whether that is an advantage will depend on the room they are in. I think it gets down to circumstances and budget, and those are things that only you can know. Again, these are both good speakers, so don't agonize over it too much. You really can't go wrong.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому

      Dali Zensor 7 - UK - www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8455/dali-zensor-7-light-walnut-floorstanding-speaker-pair/ - £250 discount.

    • @zarrath35
      @zarrath35 5 років тому

      @@blueboyblue Well thanks for the reply but I am not in the UK and in Turkey both have same (or similar) price tag and I dont have any demo option unfortunately. some people say zensor 7 is better but some disagree. as far as listen from videos 3050s have higher midrange especially vocals whereas in zensor7s high frequencies are a bit higher. similar to your comparison in whaferdale and 3050. my fear with 3050 is the are these high db mids disturbed in long listening sessions after some time.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому +2

      @@zarrath35 - - UA-cam video tend to emphasize Mid/High and soften the Bass. That is just the nature of the beast. The Dali Zensor series are extremely successful. The Dali probably have a bit more highs. But always clear and crisp. The 3050 have very nice Mid/High, perhaps better than the Wharfedale, but always very smooth and well balanced. In my room there is no listening fatigue. Which is also true of the Wharfedale.
      Here is a video of the Dali Zensor 7, you can't believe this 100% because we don't know the setting on the amp, but they are generally pretty clear and crisp -
      ua-cam.com/video/zbErrVYc-tI/v-deo.html
      This same UA-camr has other ZENSOR 7 video, and there are many on UA-cam, though you have to be careful not to read too much into them. Some are recorded very badly.
      ua-cam.com/users/Patryks26search?query=zensor+7
      The Dali Zensor are a bit crisp, but not as much as the Dali Ikon or the new Opticon which has a Super-Tweeter. But they are also impressively clear.
      I can appreciate the position you are in, but I will add that I order most of my Stereo Systems Mail-Order. Out of perhaps 6 or 7 amps, I only bought one in the store. The saving grace is that all these speakers are good, and if you make the wrong choice, the worst that happens is you end up with a good pair of speakers.
      Don't fret about it too much. The Dali Zensor 7 are a little larger and perhaps a bit brighter, but also stunningly clear. The Q Acoustic 3050 are very well balanced with good Mid/High, but not over bearing. Very well balanced.
      There are many other factors to consider. I assume most Turkish houses are Stone/Brick/Mortar with hard Stucco inside walls. That's not acoustically the best. So, if this is your case, I would get he mellower speaker. If the room is more softly furnished with a minimum of echo, then the slight brighter speakers are probably fine.
      The best I can tell you is that they are both good speakers. It is more a matter of suiting the speakers to your room and circumstances. There could be a better choice, but really there is no wrong choice.

    • @zarrath35
      @zarrath35 5 років тому

      @@blueboyblue Wow thanks for the detailed reply. I watched/listened the zensor 7 videos in youtube, some are well recorded and sound very good and same is also true for 3050s. both are very clear speakers indeed but I did not know that youtube video enhances mids and highs, so I need the keep in mind that mids are higher in the videos compared with live listening.
      I watched the video playing Peter White with zensor 7 and highs a bit crispier than 3050. Is it possible to record video of the same song with your 3050s (from any streaming service would be fine) ? that would be really helpful to me. I need to compare both with same song actually.
      Another question would be the low volume performance. Since I am living in an apartment, I cannot go very loud actually most of the time volume dial dont go further 10-11 o'clock position in my NAD 325 amp. at the low volumes bass /low frequencies are hard to feel and hear. Is is true for this speaker as well. and if it is true then, are mids becoming dominant ?
      For the construction you are correct, walls are built with mortar and covered with plaster from inside. But in my living room (which is about 25 m2) there are not so much furniture.
      Thanks

  • @tugamealha1143
    @tugamealha1143 4 роки тому

    Hi there. It seems like the treble is in a box.

  • @bernokelly6215
    @bernokelly6215 7 років тому

    03: 12 "Just a little over 70db average, maybe 76 or 77" How were you measuring this?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      SPL (Loudness) Meter - - - www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/spl-meter_e.html

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      I found that if I go over 80db, the sound becomes worse because it starts to overload the Camera Microphone. Better to keep things to a more moderate level, which I why I mentioned the dB Measurement. The Loudness Measurements were taken from about 10 feet away from the speaker.

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      Right I have a Radio Shack Digital SPL (Sound Pressure Level) Meter.

  • @Spugalugs
    @Spugalugs 5 років тому

    Hey, sweet video. I was thinking of these, I have a Yamaha rxv683 av receiver, I don't know if you know it or not. Also are you running a DAC?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  5 років тому +1

      All music is Analog, but I used Optical Digital Audio Out of the TV to the Optical DAC. The RXV683 is an OK mid-priced AV Receiver.

    • @Spugalugs
      @Spugalugs 5 років тому

      @@blueboyblue ok. Thanks for your help buddy. Have a good day.

  • @letitbe978
    @letitbe978 7 років тому

    is this good for movie (home cinema)?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому +1

      Yes, clear and detailed so voice and dialog come through, and good bass for action scenes. There are other speakers that might be a little stronger in the Mid/High, but they are going to be weaker in bass, still very good in the bass, but weaker relative to the 3050.

    • @letitbe978
      @letitbe978 7 років тому

      +blueboyblue thanks bro, i have a plan to get 3050 5.1 package or klipsch r-26f

  • @raikkonenkmi
    @raikkonenkmi 7 років тому

    hi! i read somewhere that the 3050s dont have good treble. i am leaning between concept 40, 3050, diamond 240 and zensor 5. the amp will be marantz pm6006. thank you!

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому +1

      It depends on what you mean by good Treble. You can hear the video, it doesn't seem lacking to me. There are speakers that are more dominant in the Mid/High, which can be good for Movies, but a bit overbearing for Music. Also as I explain at the beginning of the video, the speaker are a little sensitive to placement. I had them placed in such a fashion that the bass caused the Mid/High to sound muddied and recessed. Proper placement cleaned that right up. I can't control how other people place their speakers, but I can tell you that these sound very nice.
      All the speakers you listed are very good. Myself I would be more prone to go with the Diamond 240, which have 2x6.5" Bass Driver and a Midrange. They also have deeper bass than the 3050, though only about 5hz deeper (from memory). The deeper bass makes it a bit harder to integrate a Subwoofer into a Stereo system. But, with deeper bass, you are less likely to need a Subwoofer. Of course with an AV Receiver, this aspect isn't a problem.

  • @georgesmith3022
    @georgesmith3022 7 років тому

    is the bass overpowering in these?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому +3

      No. One problem with speakers that over-emphasize the bass, is that it become flabby and droning, and tends to swamp out the Mid/High. These 3050 speakers, while the do have bass emphasis, it is not enough to cause a problem with the sound. Good bass, strong, but controlled and does not effect the Mid/High ... assuming you place them reasonably.

    • @clansman89
      @clansman89 7 років тому

      How big is your room?

    • @blueboyblue
      @blueboyblue  7 років тому

      +clsman89 - - The space you see is about 17ft x 16ft, but this is an open floor-plan which includes living room, kitchen, and entryway for overall dimensions of 17ft x 36ft, so the speakers have plenty of room to unload into. The camera is roughly 10ft from the speakers. The Camera is an Canon SX30 which records very good sound, but I'm disappointed with the Still Picture and Video quality.