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Hi Paul, Porphis quote around 15cfm, but, that's at 2 bar 29psi and it doesn't need anything like that, at 1.5 bar, so around 22psi, it's around 10.5 cfm, hand on hart, it really doesn't use as much air as they say Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍

Hi Mate, Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you, I think I went into it a little in the video but the main reason for the 717 over the 627 is it ability to spray at lower pressures. The 627 isn't as flexible. It likes around 1.8 to 2 bar for clearcoats. The 717 can go to 1.1 or 1.2 bar if you want and up to 2 bar depending on the clear coats used. They are both excellent. If you want a slightly smaller lighter 717 to use at around 2 bar, it's the one to go for

Hi Mate, Thank you, that is much appreciated ☺️

Hi Mate, no, not a bumper, you will struggle for air, can't think of anything else full size, look at mini guns instead

Do you think the Chinese sri pro can handle it? With nozzle 1.2

@Eo-jq6ke Yes, it would do it, it just takes time

Hi Richard, I think you will have much more success with standard automotive base and clear coats. Painting outside is winter is really difficult, so please don't be too disappointed or disheartened, you will get better and the results will improve, but yes, summer would be a much better time to find a gun setup that suits you and your materials

Hi Buddy, not sure which one that is?

Hi Mate, I've not used the 1.2 version, only the 1.3 and 1.4, one thing I would wonder is the speed it would run, I think it would be pretty slow

@@peteshobbies5383 thank you Pete you think it would be good for mainly flow coating since 1.4 is for faster movement and 1.3 is in between medium speed so 1.2 would be a slow speed so the way this gun atomize clear it would be great since iwata guns were mainly lvlp guns that spray better at slower movements versus the sata and other guns are hvlp guns that require faster speeds

What makes the Iwata slower is the split tip, all split tip guns are slower, the Avalon, Porphis PRD717, PRD627, Iwata LS400, Wider4L are all slower

@ I still have my original iwata ls400 clear gun when they first hit the market I was debating on buying this ws400 series 2 today to see what difference it would make sense I never purchased the ws400 series 1 clear gun.

The LS400 is a genuine HVLP gun, normally regarded as a base coat gun

Hi Buddy, The Kiwami3 is a Midi gun, so it's not really competing with theses, it's a very good gun, it's a new version of the W300WB, the review is here, ua-cam.com/video/l38H_sMIGbM/v-deo.html

Hi mate, Happy Christmas 🎄, it's a bit difficult to compare them, I'm pretty sure the Porphis PRD510 is only available in 0.8 and 1.0, the LPH300 is 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 so aiming at different markets I would think

@peteshobbies5383 thank you.

@DL-fc2xt You're welcome buddy 👍

Hi buddy, For clear coat applications, I use full fan and full fluid at 2bar, so 29psi , that's the none HVLP version

Hi Harold, Yes, that's exactly what I do with my digital versions, well inside, not in cigar boxes 😂. I only do that because people were telling me the problem seemed to happen when there was a cold spell and then it gets mild and damp, then the problem starts, about 4 or 5 different people have told me that, cheers mate 👍

Hi Stephen, Well, you would want a 1.4 in the Porphis PRD717, I think it should handle it OK but I have not tried it. The Porphis PRD715 would handle it ok. It's a conventional tip, so flows more, which is more important with the materials you mentioned. Again, I would lean towards the 1.4. If you wind the fan in, just remember to wind the fluid in and keep a check on air pressure as it can go up when the fan is turned in, then you will be able to access you tight spots without too much trouble. The gun body is the same, so a tip set converts the Porphis PRD715 in a 717 and the other way round, they both give excellent finishes so you won't be disappointed. I hope that helps 👍

@peteshobbies5383 So I'd probably want to get the 715 for spraying epoxy and primer and such? Is that the material you're not sure about for a 717? The alternative is I can get a used LPH400 with a couple different caps for $500...it's only $200 more than a 717. That's what I was fixing to get before I saw this video since it's so versatile.

@stephenwhite5444 Yes, that's exactly it. Normally, those products are thicker and like to be applied heavier. The 715 is better at that. I would have the PRD717 over the LPH400 any day, or, if you still fancy an Iwata, get the Wider4L from Japan. If the LPH400 is in really good condition, then with too caps, it may be worth it , but if it's an older gun, they do get their problems then

@@peteshobbies5383 I suppose I can get a cheap $100 gun to spray thick stuff. I'll probably be using Slick Sand too which I believe needs close to a 2.0 cap. Whatever gun I use for that I can probably use for epoxy and buildable primers. Do you have any suggestions? All this type stuff will get blocked out anyway.

@stephenwhite5444 Yeah, if you are blocking the stuff out, it's not a problem. The Porphis PHS155 in 1.8 is a well-made gun and not expensive. It's not built to the same standards as the PRD series, but it is still good

Thanks, buddy, much appreciated 👍

Hi Buddy, I got this from Paintingtoolsjapan. They could give you a price. There's a link in the video description, it may be too expensive, but it's worth asking them

Hi Mate, sounds like you are as bad as me 😂 , I have two PRD717s, one 1.3 and one 1.4, I also have a PRD715 in 1.3, which is very fast and really good. I have a PHS155 in 1.3 as well, I want to get at some time the 1.4 setup for the PRD715 or my PRD625 , as that would be a real blast 🤣🤣 Thanks as always, buddy. I appreciate it 👍

Hi Danielle , well, you just cost yourself some money 🤣, because the Finer Core takes the same cups and adapters as the DV1, Gti Pro Lite, ANI Skull ect, no excuses now 😅🤣😂, cheers mate 👍

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks Pete .Thats what I was hoping to hear.

You're welcome buddy 👍

Hi Mate, No, not enough air. I'm afraid, how much do you have to do or what are you spraying in one go?

@peteshobbies5383 I'm spraying a 1985 C10 2 door swb truck. My plan is to paint the cab first firewall, roof, jambs and back all together. Then install the doors front fenders and paint those at the same time. Then the hood. After that I will be painting the box all together. So essentially I will be breaking it up. Also will be going with a solid color Thanks for the response!

@kountrylr23 It's not going to be enough to power the LPH400 for more than a couple of panels. Most of the time, it will be running on your 30-gallon tank. There isn't much in the full size gun market they you could use for a reasonable amount of time, it they are available in the US, see if you can find an Iwata W400 Bellaria, same as an LPH400 but different tip and cap, it will alow you to do more than a couple of panels with your setup and is good for single stage paints in 1.4

@@peteshobbies5383 I will look into that gun. Thanks for the suggestions and Merry Christmas to you!

@kountrylr23 You're welcome buddy, merry Christmas to you and your family 👍

Hi David, I think maybe you have added this reply to the wrong video? , as I have absolutely no idea what you mean 😅, cheers mate 👍

Hi all at Porphis, You thoroughly deserve you places in this top 12, my rankings are all from experience and having had my first Porphis guns nearly 2 1/2 years now they are proving reliable and good quality with exceptional performance. Performance is something you can evaluate very quickly. Reliability and durability take time, and enough time has now passed for me to give a valid opinion, which is very good. Keep up the good work, and I am looking forward to the new year. Cheers ✌️

Hi Mate, you must have one hell of an R500 if you think it paints like a WS400. A comparison video would be good when you get time, cheers

Hi mate, it does do well, but you need to be careful with the amount of fluid you let flow, as it's possible to overdo it

@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for the info. I can't wait to try the gun will make sure to adjust flow accordingly

@GeorgiaGonzales-f6u You're welcome, buddy 👍

Hi Benjamin, Thanks, mate, a Merry Christmas and New Year to you and your family. Cheers ✌️ 🍻

Hi Walter, we agreed on many things, but on this, we will have to differ. The PRD717 and PRD715 aren't really Sata copy's, yes they owe some styling to them but nothing else is much like them, the body has many changes, for example they don't have the fluid adjustment screwing directly into the body, there's also a click mechanism on the adjustment. The tip arrangement is more like a Iwata and Avalon and indeed a Walcom, with the V or U groove designs, so, there comes a time when you just have to conseed, it's a gun on its own merits. The icing on the cake, is its performance, it's much much more refined than a 5000 and produces much better results. I love my Sata 5000, but it's no Porphis PRD717. Happy Christmas to you and your family, Walter, and a safe and happy new year to you buddy, cheers 🍻

Thank you, Pete. I wish you have the same!

I remember you saying about your problems with you Walcoms , it something I've heard form many to be honest. How are you finding the ANI Skull for reliability? I've had no problems, but some I know have with some ANI products, although the 200 series seem better

Hi Mate, Thank you, A Merry Christmas, and a happy and safe new year to you and your family. Cheers ✌️

Hi buddy, The DC1 C1 is slow. The C2 cap helps, but some say at the expense of finish. The PRD715 is a very good gun, it could easily make it into this top 12 but, as you will understand, I didn't want to saturate the top 12 with one manufacturers products. The 1.2 is often a way to atomise finer, it's works on the Tekna Gti Pro Lite as well, I recently experimented with 1.1 in the DV1 and the Pro Lite with very good effect, I made a video in fact, not out yet but will be , Cheers buddy, thanks for watching 👍

Hi Mate, Thank you. Best wishes to you and your family at Christmas. Cheers 👍

Hi Buddy, Thank you, and a happy Christmas and New Year to you as well 😊

I just got my 717 a week ago.. I was blown away on the build quality for the price. Have not been able to spray it yet but it is built beautifully. Even the cap feels and souns like butter when screwing it on and off lol

@@bradleyyounger8499 estaba indeciso por qué ya tengo el wider4l pero viendo este video me volví a animar a comprarlo, voy a tener que pedirlo, espero y disfrutes el tuyo saludos

You would be disappointed when you use it. It really is a very good spray gun regardless of price

@@peteshobbies5383 aparte Petes dices que es buena rociando desde 1.3 a 2.0 bars osea que es muy bueno el ajuste

Thanks, Andy. Merry Christmas, mate 🎅

Thanks, mate. Happy Christmas 🎄 👍

​@peteshobbies5383 hi pete what is worng with sagola they raise their prices on the 4600 and no one will answer their phone here in the USA and everyone is trying to sell them on the internet thank for any information

Hi Mate, you can but you need to be careful what cap you use it with, the BA4J cap will not take any of the split tips, so the Wider4L tip will fit a Kiwami4 WBX or WB, not the BA4J, the hole in the centre of the BA4J is too small for the thicker tips used in the WB, WBX and Wider4L

Hi Mate, Yes, you're the second person to ask that, I'll see what I can do. The 715 is a cracking gun. It would be in this top 12, but I sort of put it with the 717, The PC415 would be in there as well, but I had to draw the line somewhere 🤣😂🤣

​@peteshobbies5383 A primer video and base video would be fantastic. I haven't used my PHS 155 1.8 tip for primer yet, but I was thoroughly impressed with how well it's 1.3 tip laid sealer out.

@Willgpi Yes, I will work on that as loads have asked for the same videos, cheers 👌

Hi mate, I don't have the Phaser, as far as I know, they put a CC cap in that which can produce excellent results, same with Skull, very good spray gun, all the guns in this video are very good, it just a small margin that separates them. Thanks buddy 🙏

Hi mate, I did see that a while ago, didn't realise the offer was still going I could do with an ANI cap 😂, they are good guns and the kit with the 3 air caps and digital gauge is great value, cheers mate 👍

Cheers, Bryan, and to you and your family, mate 👍

Thanks mate, same to you and family 👍

Hi Mate, Thank you, high praise indeed 🙏 Yes, the Jet X , I am looking forward to seeing what that's like. It's a bit of a departure for Sata from their standard format, I have also just got an Avalon A60 which is proving quite good, interesting times, cheers buddy 👌

Hi Mate, so you W400/LPH400 normally runs at a lower pressure. What are you running it st? The WS400 Series 2 isn't particularly fast, but if you are running your LV4 setup at a lower pressure, the WS400 at 29psi will seem faster

@peteshobbies5383 about 10 psi I'm getting ready to paint my 250 Ford so I'm getting it set up I put a gauge back on it for the first time in a long time some people say they run up to 30 PSI with this set up will the w400 choose through a lot more clear coat than the lph one is more efficient

The W400 normally ships with the LV2 cap. These are much faster but run around 29 psi, not as good a finish as the WS400, though

@peteshobbies5383 I have the lv4 1.43 cut tulip tip

@@peteshobbies5383 for clear coat the Finish improves the more the pressure goes up the more the gun goes compliant or HVLP it increases the orange peel you get less atomization when the pressure drops but you do get more efficiency transfer efficiency

Hi mate, thanks you, good to hear you enjoy it, been coming for a while and finally got round to it, cheers buddy 👌

Hi Mate, I've been using the Avalon in the week. Certainly, first impressions are very good, I'm sure it would make it on this list. I don't know where at the moment, but it's a good gun, cheers mate

Hi Mate, no, they won't interchange as they are quite different, as are the way the Porphis PRD717 and PRD627 spay, the 717 is happy at lower pressures than the 627, I was using both of them in the week, and it reminded me of how good they are, excellent tools, cheers mate

Hi Buddy, I don't think you will be disappointed. it's only small but packs a punch. What do you think about the build quality? It's pretty good, isn't it ?

@ really nice build quality. Right up there with all the top brands. Used it today and wow what a difference compared to my old Sata 5000 RP. The Sata oversprays so much compared to to the Meiji

@A.M03 I thought you would like it, I do have a soft spot for the Sata 5000B but it's nothing like as refined as the Meiji, cheers mate, thanks for letting us know how it goes, always good to get other opinions so others can read them and get information 👍

Did you get the 1.3 or 1.5? I'm thinking about it but not sure what size to get

I got 1.3 and 1.5, both excellent, 1.5 is faster as you would expect, 1.3 gives more control if that is what you prefer

Hi Daniel, Happy holidays, mate. I'll see what I can do. Cheers 🍻

@peteshobbies5383 Thank you. Quick question: When spraying metallics is a 1.3mm fluid tip, the way to go or what size would you recommend when spraying. Is it better to spray with a split tip nozzle like the Iwata LS/WS400 Series 2, or would any gun be suitable. Im trying to prevent drying and modeling. Thank you again. Have a blessed holiday. 🍻

@danielcarcamo6336 Hi Daniel, if it's getting a little dry in the application, then a none split tip gun may be the way to go, so something like a DV1 Base gun, or a Pro Lite TE10, an Iwata W400, tip size of 1.3 should be ok, I think it will be the split tip that's causing you problems, so gun without may help

@peteshobbies5383 Thank you very much again. I thought the split tip nozzle was better on metallics, been that it's more efficient when it automizes out the gun vs. a regular tip nozzle. I was thinking I needed a bigger tip nozzle like a 1.4, 1.5mm. Very interesting. Thank you for the advice. I will do that.

@danielcarcamo6336 Normally the split tips are better, but it's not working for you by the sounds of it, the Kiwami4 WB is available in 1.4 and 1.6, so is the Wider4L

Hi Lesli, Good to hear you enjoyed it. In my mind, I know the PRD717 would win. It was just a way of scoring it that was fair, so I gave performance the bulk of the marks. There are no bad sprayguns in this top 12, so the edge one has over another is only small. When that happens, other factors kick in and help to give you an order of ranking, PRD717, or the 715 for that matter are excellent at what they do, have proven reliable and are built well, cheers mate

Hi Mate, you're welcome, I presume you like the Porphis guns you have?

@@peteshobbies5383 Yes, I love them. I have the 627, 717 and the 338. Haven't been able to try out the 338 yet, but have shot two different full jobs with the 627 and 717. I actually have a better clear finish out of the 627. Could just be me though. I just ordered the Meiji Finer core about 15 min ago, after watching this video... Hopefully it performs as well for me as it did for you.

Yes, the 627 I was using in the week , and the 717, to be honest, if I counted them separately it would have been a Porphis festival 😂, so I just put two in, the PC415 would be in there as well, but I had to draw the line somewhere. I think you will like the Meiji, it's only small but has a punch and is so well made, cheers mate 👍

​@@peteshobbies5383I haven't been able to find that PC-415 available for purchase since your video came out.

Hi Angus, thanks mate and a happy Christmas and New Year to you and your family 👍 It's good to hear the channel has given you some encouragement and confidence, it was it was designed to do. Cheers mate 👍

Thanks mate, merry Christmas to you and your family 👍

Hi Carlos, Thanks, mate. I've been meaning to do this for a few years, which is why some of the footage is older as it was already edited into small 3 minute or so sections. The Meiji is a cracking gun and very well made, so I don't think you will be unhappy with it. Happy Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year, cheers mate 👍

Hi Boss, only one, well, that's better than none, I guess, thanks mate for your support throughout the year. it is much appreciated 👍

PRD717 lol

Hi Buddy, Yes, I was originally just going to put them together, so best gun overall but it really didn't work as there are good base coat gun that aren't particularly good for clear and the other way round, so yes, I'll do a basecoat version and there will be different guns that appear as well as some in this, cheers 🍻

The PRD717 will probably be in there, but where I'm not sure

Thanks, I use for basecoat iwata lph400 purple cap, excellent for metallic, butbi want something better, as well i use the iwata ls400 hvlp 1.3, ahh ok, tekna ultimate basecoat, ah, ok... i wany something very easy and forgive to the modern metallic basecoat. What do you recomend it, please. Merry Christmas from NY USA.

@@algernumv I’m a DIY’er, and have only sprayed primer and sealer in years past. Been watching a lot of “how to paint” videos and bought me the prd717 and sprayed a hood, door, and trunk lid with green metallic and silver metallic and came out amazing. I never sprayed actually basecoat and clear before this.