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Max has blown off the roof.

lol I enjoyed this episode. You guys are jokes. Was laughing at the world peace segment😂

Max has been raising the floor since race 7 in 2018, not since 2023.

For lowering the floor, there can only be one candidate: Logan Sargeant

Max is in a totally seperate category. its called - "have wheels? Will race" Its even got nothing to do with F1. The man was just born to race. That's it. Most people need their whole life to figure out what their true purpose, their calling is. He's lucky he got that figured out early.

Alonso = 7 podiums in first 13 races for 2023.

Michael and max did/do both. Look what Michael did in dogshit Bennetons and Ferraris. Look what max did as a 17 year old in a Tauro Rosso and then in the Red Bull against the invincible Mercs. Both men also pull talent to their team and retain talent. They’re the two best drivers I’ve seen since my time watching the sport.

When did you guys start watching F1? Like every race and session, etc…

Max delivered but also his team: strategy, pit stops...just spot on. It seems like McLaren could do better strategy-wise but also pit stops-wise. They may have lost two seconds there, the two seconds Lando needed to close the gap to Max. But driving to Max is not same as passing Max. Max passed George in a very swift and clinical style where Lando took to long to pass George and thus lost time and tyres. I think Lando is going to have a great chance in Austria. Go F1!

How can anyone hate you guys. I mean you have literally become my F1 cousins whom I can have a friendly banter with. The only thing missing is some excellent food and a cold drink to go with that.

Fernando appears to be showing his age. When Stroll is beating you over and over, something is wrong.

I think you've misunderstood the Development work that Lewis does vs George, The reason Toto is Looking for another Driver is George is not doing any Development work, George just Drives whatever is given to him vs Sir Lewis Giving Feedback for Car development

I think every "ceiling raiser", but especially every generational driver must be a "floor raiser" too, by definition. If you are good enough to get that extra % out of the car, you are certainly also raising the floor. Schumi: before the ferrari got dominant, he surely raised the floor, dragging that actually pretty bad ferrari to a title decider against Villeneuve or the pre 94 Benetton to podiums and wins. Alonso dragged the pretty bad ferrari to title deciders as well, raising the floor, but also ended schumis reign of terror in his renault, again, raising the ceiling. Senna: dominated in mclaren, but also got wins in his lotus, raising both floor and ceiling. Hamilton: raising the ceiling, but also the floor, point in case last year, he should not have gotten 3rd in the championship . Verstappen: raising floor and ceiling since 2019. The other way round its different, the "floor raisers" are quality drivers who just lack the extra speed: Albon, Hulkenberg, sainz, in a way even Perez, who did very well in the Force India, until we found out how ordinary he looks beside max

Michael Schumacher was the prototype of racing the ceiling then

The points you guys bring up for max being in his own category regarding this conversation can also be applied to Lewis as well🤔 so I’m a bit confused to why they aren’t both on their own category? Look at Lewis career and you can vividly see the similarities to the points you make for max doing both floor and ceiling raising. Rethink that and give me your verdict Agree or disagree?

Fair assessment, no objections from me on this one. Keep it coming.

I love this podcast

Max raised the entire bar. Every driver has to train harder and work harder. Anyone who beats Max on pure driving skill has reached the pinnacle of his career.

Very nice comparison guys 👍🏻

Any one rating Alonso higher than Lewis is a lunatic. Lewis as a rookie pulled already 2x world champion Alonso pants down in 2007. go and check out one one interview where Alonso said nobody is faster than Lewis. Both of you hypocrite it’s getting unbearable. That’s why a unsubscribe to this channel. You guys are just just fanbase hunters nothing more

This Man that’s putting on cap 🧢 is such an impostor and he lies 2 much. He ignored the facts Max never had a strong team mate and rating him among the greats are hypocritical. He’s just hunting for Max fanbase subscribe

Couldn't agree more with you guys.

More tyred than ever...alright, let the wheels come of. EDIT(S): Raising the floor is sometimes also making sure everyone starts operating to the new base level. In essence when a new key player comes in and who's already there conforms to the new standard. Would you say a raising the floor driver might be best teamed up with a raising the ceiling driver? So one forces things go better and the other can hunt for titles? And of course if you have that in one driver...yeah, you can play the game differently.

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You guys are known for argument and disagreement which makes this pod strange. Just argue about something pls

Great job guys. Enjoyed it. Please keep it up

Interesting discussion. From the point of view of f1 I think I agree with the definition of raising the floor but I think that raising the ceiling is better defined as being able to lift the performance of the entire package from engineers to mechanics to strategists both in the short term (to produce unexpected/miraculous results) and long term (to level up the team/car). I think in this regard Lewis and Max are capable of raising the ceiling. I think they both can raise the floor but max more so.

I think Max has 1 advantage over every other driver. All he does is race constantly. Thats he's only interest even when the season is over he goes back to racing sim. That is a different dedication to driving. Doing a 24hr race on iracing in between Quali and Race on the F1 weekend is actually insane. Max is a hybrid of alot of drivers plus having both parents in motorsport has molded him into something we havent seen before. In terms of his ability you cant even really think of a weaknesses. Lewis is great too but i just think evolution over time, the next generation are going to get better and better. Answer this if you took the Max of today and put him against Rosberg , Button, Russell etc i dont think they beat him over a season and as i said before i think in 2021 if you switched Lewis and Max i think Max wins the championship in that merc before Abu Dhabi. Some of those races where Lewis struggled i think Max betters some of those results Imola, Baku, Monaco even Monza sprint Turkey.

All the GOAT contenders both raise the ceiling and floor. The real test in the long run driver is how much they can keep their performance in the rasing the ceiling zone. Let me also add to this : there is also the increasing level of professionalism and talent to account for across the sport. So the differentials in talent and raising ceiling/floor is harder due to the level of detail the performance of machine/human is maximised

Thank you guys !! Hit the like everyone !

On the edge he is 26 years old and he has 61 F1 wins 3 WDC’s … Closing in on 4 he is off the edge and full on Great especially getting 10 wins with the second best car in 2021

People forget that Norris is doing his sixth season in F1. Since second half of 2018 Max is more or less faultless. Yes in 2021 there was some hard racing but hardley any faults like Haniltons Imola and Baku where faults. Lando in his sixth season in probably the fastest car is still making mistakes that cost him wins. Its not going to be easy too beat Max. Max is in a other zone. He won his championships he will not lose any sleep over losing a race. Then you have to be scared because Max is driving without any pressure.

Verstappen is already one of the greatest drivers ever...top 5 all time for sure

What a stupid mic placement. Now the mic is in focus instead of the person.

Max is not on the edge of greatness, he has been there for a while now. It is just the media and LH fans that have been sleeping..

As mentioned by Jordan, Marko, Horner, Hill, Toto, Vasseur and all other insiders ... Max is of a different planet, even in a slower car. And you say, you only put him with the great ones when he convinces you in a race where he does not have the fastest car. Did you not watch F1 before 2021? Prior to 2021 Max won 10 races in a Renault powered RBR ! in an era that Lewis was 1 to 2 seconds faster than any other car on the grid. THAT's when the car wins trophies, and then he still required Valterri to ocassionally step aside. Max is the best driver that F1 has seen since the late Ayrton Senna ......... and arguably has had a bigger impact on F1 than any other driver in decades. His race intelligence even made FIA change a dozen of rules. Back to the race weekend .... no mentions of the deliberated bumps of LEC/Lewis and the penalties not given to Lando and George. Alonso was right, nationality does matter, if it was sargeant he'd be penalized for each offence seen. Also no one is clocking that Mercedes is on the way back and Ferrari is dropping off again .... guess where LewSir is going?

Just discovered this podcast and I really appreciate the unbiased tone of it. Boys got added to my playlist 👌🏼 Question (and this is in no way a knock on Hamilton!) Max can cleanly race lando, george, carlos, leclerc… but with Lewis it often went wrong. Could it be that Lewis just isn’t such a clean racer as the previous mentioned names? He tends to often ‘brush’ or collide with others aswell. 🤔🧐

You were right about Barcelona and Hamilton does get better as the car improves

If Lando and George and Max would have been driving differently itveould have been a completely different race,…. nu they did not drove differently now did they🎷 ?! It is again if my grandmother had a beard she would have been my grandfazze😡🥳

A pedestrian affair at 250 miles. p/h.?

Luckily for Lewis that Max was only a small child when he started in F1 or Lewis wouldn’t have any WDCs. 😂

Maximilian, dont forget his name

should have kept the wing from his 7 year walk in the park

Lando’s start move shows how little he respects George.

Exceptional driver and a nice guy too.

A slightly off topic thought: Picture for a moment Team/Cult LH's reaction if Toto finally convinced Max to go to Merc next yeat and that Max went on to win the 25 and 26 Chips in Lewis' car.

Norris was very clear that they had the best car. Certain people just seem compelled to downplay anything Verstappen does. I'll take what Norris says over someone who is clearly uncomfortable when forced to say something positive about Verstappen. Also Mercedes had the quickest car in Canada according to Norris. And it is not just Norris says so. The data very much proves him right.

So Max is greatness out shines Lewis greatness? Yeah ok, Max is good but lets look at the time Lewis raced against the greats when he first started his career. Look at who Max is beating now! You guys make me laugh...and only if Mercedes didn't screw Lewis or fight for his 8th championship. This discussion should not be talked about!!

Curious phenomenon about MCL36. Its plain to see that car's performance is well rounded---above-average quick everywhere, more or less. The new and little discussed standout element is its tire wear. Wow are they good on tires, but only if they don't push too early. Their strength seems to be at the end of life, which is useful for negating undercuts. This tire wear advantage is probably new to them, and opens up a lot more strategy options, and ironically this is giving them strategy challenges in the form of having too many possibilities versus others. I expect that once they chun through their data, and gains a better understanding of their tire wear curve they won't just be chasing Max, but battling him at the front.