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This sounds very similar to the games industry

VFX desperately needs a strong Union to not be thrown around by Studios so much

The problem is people don't know what technically counts as CGI or how much effort goes into executing it. Accounting for all the little things we take for granted in the visible and tangible world to insert thing A into Scene B convincingly is a level of workmanship most people couldn't even begin to wrap their head around, much less appreciate the need for. Being a VFX artist means taking your experience perceiving the world around you and accounting for it as part of your occupation. Who in the right mind knows what Specular Highlights or Ambient Occlusion even are until you point to things on their kitchen counter and explain it to them? THE 3D WORLD CANNOT SHAKE HANDS WITH OURS, NOW FIX IT. That's the part that's hard to explain without sounding like a broken record.

Great explanation! ;)

Metaverse was bullshit marketing taking advantage of a growing VR craze, not the fault of VR itself. Self driving cars are here and here to stay, but they cost money. NFTs were visibly stupid from the start. AI is being used as a marketing slogan, but it's here and very useful. Especially for textures, materials, and any static 2D elements. None of these things "failed" for the reasons you gave nor do those reasons mean AI is failing. The only thing stopping AI now is silicone valley morons selling it as rental car cloud software for large companies in an infantile form. AI, VR, Self Driving cars are all very much real and have their audiences.

I once saw a guy from Digital Domain give a talk about how they were going to migrate into IP ownership - where the VFX studios were going to develop and profit from their own creations. That was around 2011 and they went bankrupt the next year after some insane financial dealings.. I also saw Dennis Muren give a talk around 2008/9 where he said that rotoscope would be a thing of the past in a few years... The industry is insane and hard to predict. I think there is still room for some small scale, indie films with VFX to compete with the big studios, probably in some country with good arts funding.

The problem in Hollywood is that the top execs are generic managment types who could be working for Kraft , Walmart, or Olive Garden. They treat the product like Velveeta, but people do not go to the movies for Velveeta. They get that at home already.

AI is garbled nonsense at the best of times. Skilled humans are still required. Come back in 2040 to see if your job is under threat.

Why can't I find the live chat??

Wow, the best video I've seen so far to illustrate the situation. I would love a version with French subtitles to show the video to my family, but it's a big project.

This Is really Cool well done

Capitalism, investors and CEO's are the reason why it's turned to shit. These people chase trends and create garbage nobody cares about ironically. AAA games and hollywood movies are peak slop these days.

Y’all need to unionize so bad

I find it wild people saying that AI won't replace artists because of the lack of soul Like, my dude, companies dont care about this and this video to me is proof of this

I gave up on vfx for lack of talent, I'm glad I'm a quitter, i can have a life

The toxicity you'll find in a VFX company will NOT turn you into a superhero... I hope you liked this Pikachu shot tho ;) > Strikes are necessary. VFX industry has been a sh*tshow for far too long...

9:40 this is the very heart of all modern art “critics” on the internet; nothing is good enough for them, everything needs to be changed to suit their tastes, the artist is just a vehicle for a poorly thought out idea

Capitalism is awesome until it cuts your pay and then tosses you aside for something cheaper. Maybe VFX workers should accept that artists are not really valued in this culture and learn to fix cars and refrigerators.

Unions are why content creation goes overseas. I just hired a phillipino to model my project for a fraction of what it would cost me in the USA.

Well the thing is, you have to remember, right now we have the worst version of AI. It is only getting better and better. So you will have to spend less and less time refining its output. Also I have just watched another video from you, about the state of the VFX industry. Just imagine, instead of doing 300 revisions of pixel f*ing, you just create a scene/shot and then the middle management can torment the AI to move stuff and changes hues.

Love the editing and tempo of this. Great information here. Didn’t realize that is happening.

in the very beginning of my carrier, i learned to say to myself: "It's not my movie, it doesnt have to please me" and thats why my real passion is growing in my freetime in privat projects. Sorry, not sorry

Better, thank you!❤❤

Calling some of these ideas "spaghetti" is quite generous. At least I can eat the spaghetti that doesn't stick to the wall....

Uggh, Mr Beast, eh?? Ok, I'm done.

ALL of modern cinema is weak. The composers, the actors, the directors, the writers and the effects are ALL subpar to the past. Proper cinema ended in the 80's. It hasn't been an art form for decades.

Hi, hello, yes, I would prefer a modern Planet of the Apes movie using practical make-ups over the mocap approach they've been using for the last several years. Flashing very quickly to the make-up effects of the original films ignores the incredible work done by Rick Baker on the 2001 film, as well as the equally incredible spec work Stan Winston did for that same film. To be clear, I think your video overall is very solid and well-argued! But this specific moment gets me on two levels: one, as a low budget practical effects artist myself, I do have a preference for the artistry of analog techniques and being able to tell that something was an actual, physical object in front of the camera. I know I'm super weird for this but I genuinely get more enjoyment out of even mediocre practical effects over the most polished, state of the art CG shots. Two, I very specifically bristle at the idea that Hollywood seems to have forced on most audiences, that cinema is a single forward march of progress from "old and bad" to "new and good," instead of a rich and diverse medium for human expression with an infinite number of permutations in how a film can look. Unfortunately I think a lot of practical vs. CGI arguments immediately fall into this trap, which I think is a huge shame. Like, for me personally, I actively work to make all my films using entirely in camera analog effects, even going so far as to shoot on super 8mm film to take that philosophy even further - but the Wachowski Sisters' Speed Racer is one of my all time favorite movies!

Unfortunately, most people don't know what they're talking about, but have absorbed enough information by osmosis to think they do. Far too many opinions are based on nothing at all - preconceptions, hearsay, gut feeling, etc. This is how you end up with all the hot takes which trash CGI in movies while praising practical effects which are actually just invisible CGI. Studios have clued in on this. It's why they lie about CGI. Why bother trying to educate people about the industry when you can just feed them hollow slogans and watch them pile into theatres?

The studios see all the advancements in CGI as a convenient short-cut tool to micromanage the VFX work, constantly meddling with the artistic process, imposing ever tighter deadlines, since all they understand is that it's a matter of few more click with the mouse until the shot is perfect. This is what spoiled the movie crafting process, as if one more VFX shot on top of the already high pile is to compensate for unimaginative screenwriting, boring dialogs, bland music soundtrack and poor casting in general. The old movies, everyone is referring to, didn't became classics just by the virtue of their "analogue" VFX, but because movie makers knew their priorities being humble enough to make compromises where it was warranted... for far less money on top of that. Pride and hubris, dozed with endless cheap capital has ruined cinema and CGI has become the convenient scapegoat, because those people were pushed at the bottom in the packing order in the movie industry, where their voice is mute enough to have no consequence.

Hi guys, I am new into this and it looks overwhelming to be sincere, would you guys recommend me to take any learning path based on your experience? Please I'd appreciate it deeply!

Honestly cgi and vfx is VITAL to movies to tell more realistic forms of story telling. Take example pacific rim. Its mainly cgi yet it works. Because its realistic and it WORKS with the movie instead of against the movie.

The amount of VFX shots I turn over to VFX teams on even the most benign shows would blow minds. They do so much incredible work to enhance visuals and help fix production issues outside of all of the set extensions, modelling, animating etc.

Fincher is a great example of someone who know how to integrate CG into his work.

CGI in my opinion should only be used when absolutely neccesary, Its not that people in general hate CGI the problem is when it is overused which is unfortunately the case these days and thats why people are getting tired of it because most filmakers dont care anymore about practical effects but just go with CGI for everything without even trying to do practical in first place.

Your stance on ai is just doom and gloom. That trying to fight it is just fighting the inevitable No way.

Well said

I just leave a <3 here for the framerate. Feel u🥲

Thank you for speaking out. The way the media treat us is infuriating. I worked for months on the digital cars for Gran Turismo but here comes Neil Blomkamp, doing the the marketing video for the movie, assuring everyone that all cars are real. I'm sure they wrecked cars that cost $300k for the movie. People who say that VFX suck are oblivious to the fact that technology is being developed to solve existing artistic problems. In the words of George Lucas "you don't develop the technology and then ask what to do with it'

The studios pay for all that hard work and you get credit for it. Thats how the business works. Only a Teenager would whine about what somebody said on the internet. Youre doing great work. STFU.

I worked in the industry as a VFX artist and I hate how prevalent CGI is. What's even worse, is instead of limiting the use of it when audiences clearly don't like it as much anymore, they just lie about it instead and throw the VFX artists who slaved away under the bus.

"Germany also has something going on" why do you hate German studios so much that you swap them under the rug so quickly while you name stuff for all those other places? Germany has several notable VFX studios that contribute to both local and international film and television productions. Here are some prominent ones: 1. **Rise FX** - Known for its work on high-profile projects like "The Man in the High Castle," "The King's Man," and "Avengers: Endgame." 2. **Scanline VFX** - Famous for its advanced fluid simulation technology, Scanline has worked on movies like "Godzilla vs. Kong," "Aquaman," and "The Meg." 3. **Pixomondo** - With a strong presence in both Germany and the US, Pixomondo has contributed to projects like "Game of Thrones," "Star Trek: Discovery," and "The Mandalorian." 4. **Trixter** - This studio has been involved in creating VFX for films such as "Black Widow," "Guardians of the Galaxy," and "Spider-Man: Homecoming." 5. **Mackevision** - Specializes in visual effects and 3D visualization, with notable work on "Game of Thrones," "Lost in Space," and "The Lion King" (2019). 6. **Rodeo FX** - Although headquartered in Canada, Rodeo FX has a significant presence in Germany, contributing to films like "Fantastic Beasts" series, "Aquaman," and "Stranger Things." These studios are known for their expertise in various aspects of VFX, from animation and CG to compositing and fluid simulations, playing significant roles in both European and Hollywood productions.

The fact we CAN use CG changes the way creators compose their stories. Oh we can show x now because we don’t have to hire/wrangle 1000’s of human actors, but does that shot of copy+paste models in the distance actually add to the scene or are they just a distraction?

Literally all that matters: do the effects add to or take away from the shot/scene/overall story? If you’re using the film as a place to experiment fine, but be prepared for a mixed reception.

Movement and lighting are dead giveaways, if the character moves too smoothly vs natural muscle twitch, and so many CG models have squeaky clean textures or mismatched lighting that make them stick out as unnatural. All of this is instantly resolved with practical props and effects.

You make some reasonable points. Digital graphics and animation can accomplish a lot. But it’s often used as a production crutch when a practical approach is visually superior. Prime example is blood hits. Cg blood “squibs” take me right out of the film, it’s so glaringly fake. All to replace something that’s been working perfectly since the 70s. Hollywood needs to have a better eye for quality than the audience.

two weird points you gave in this: "Theres no point in advocating basic protections in ai" "the strikes caused lower wages in the industry" dude what?

The answer to this its unionize

morbid that on almost all these vids I watch about any art industry being threatened of collapse, all the in video ads are about AI

So this is why production budgets are so high.

Its more impressive for games than movies in a way because games are being rendered at 30 or 60 times a second, movies its 1 time every few minutes or even over an hour