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Welcome Coach! I had no idea I had subscribers from so many places I've never visited. In an interview David Storl said he's trying to get his right knee to the front of the circle by traveling the greatest distance he can horizontally. At least that's how I interpreted it. So, in addition I think of the forward knee drive 2 ways. One I think of it like in the javelin. You want the right knee to quickly pass through when the bodyweight is passing above. It's effortless. By rolling onto the big toe the knee drops down which drives the right hip forward against the left leg block. Two, I think of the right knee driving forward and staying low like the left knee dropping into the discus circle. That motion creates a tremendous amount of linear drive into the circle. Have someone hold your right arm as you drop in from a South African and you'll probably pull them across the circle. So, with these two examples I'm saying I don't believe you have to think about applying force down and against the ground with your right foot. I also don't think about toe, knee, hip sequence. I think hip, knee toe. Cheers and good luck! -Coach Nels

Here's a video I made a while back showing how I think of hip then knee then toe. ua-cam.com/video/cA5lo2GVa8M/v-deo.html

Thank you for your quicky reply and for such a detailed explanation! Do keep posting these awesome videos :) What I really like about Storl's technique is that he is so tall in the finish and his legs are close together at the release. My athletes have a tendency to make themselves small and then I show them what Storl looks like at the release and we work to get them to stay tall at the release.

You are most welcome@@leonstuij9540 . I think he's tall at release because he keeps his eyes, chest and head up. Young throwers tend to bend forward at the hips trying to reach far past the toe board which cause the eyes, chest and head to go down making them small and while the arm goes up so they split forces. The top throwers actually don't extend very far past the toe board at release. I'll keep trying to find new topics and make videos and hopefully all my subscribers will find me more subscribers! Thank you!

I need close-up non-grainy video for details! Timmerman was so tall he didn't have to shift into the toe board like Storl. Storl has interviews and technical videos with his coach explaining what he's doing in the ring. I really like Werner, Timmerman etc but I don't as much info but I will analyze Timmerman soon as best as I can with any video I can find but as always it will just just be my interpretation of what I see.

Those videos with the coaches including Alekna's coach Mo are really eye opening. I laughed when Coach Mo said Alekna doesn't think about any of that when he drives into the circle. Makes me rethink that everything we see on competition video isn't intentional! You are definitely paying attention and I see a future biomechanical engineer.

From what I've seen and tried the hip and knee move forward and the right foot seems to just go along for the ride. You can really feel the separation in the knees when thinking of the hip moving forward first instead of driving to the left.

Glad the video helped!

Personally I think you can get a lower angle right leg and drive farther across the circle if you come off the heel plus I like the momentum created from dropping down and dropping the heel as you roll from the toe to the heel. But then Gong pushes off the toe and she won the Olympics. ua-cam.com/video/QQd9YjC-mUM/v-deo.html

Forty years five + ago I was a 62’ high school thrower who strived to use a Feuerbach-style glide. It was never comfortable trying to leave the back off the heel and turn the right foot in mid-air. It looked good but made me a bit slower than I would have been had I pushed fully off the ball of my foot, quickly tucked the right leg under me, and instantly rotated the foot forward through the power and delivery phases. If you examine the great gliders Timmerman and Storl, this is what they did. Upon reflection I would have likely thrown farther with their technique. The great spin throwers also land in the center on the ball without regard to getting that foot 90 degrees to the line. I was 6’0, 200lbs and relied on speed and an explosive release. I know that a more vigorous push from the back off the ball of my foot would have been more powerful to enable greater speed across and through the circle.

Ramona Pagel came off the toes also but from this view ua-cam.com/video/TB9ZYwCCAfI/v-deo.html she actually started with her foot pre-turned about 45 degrees. What I see in this video is what I've seen before is that the right leg doesn't fully extend when pushing off from the toes although Gong does fully extend. I once saw a quick video where Dan Pfaff was explaining why it was important to turn the right foot before it leaves the back of the circle. Something about muscles stretching. I like the Zelezny philosophy. "Whichever throws farthest is the best technique".

@@Throws_Coach_Nels indeed. Individual anatomy plays a role as well

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What I'm noticing is reverse throwers rotating the right foot to the front then sliding the foot forward low to the ground and around the left side block. My feeling is they are continuously pulling the discus with the right hip through release which requires the right foot to slide forward.

@@Throws_Coach_Nels i agree, but just a little bit longer r foot on ground would be great, something between rev and nonrev. That was my problem when i threw shot

Obviously this technique works for him tho . He says his height if release is better when he jumps into the throw like that also goes further so whatever works for him

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🤣He may eventually match Alekna's technique. Matching his distance is a whole different thing!😂

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Sometimes I just move the video back and forth just a couple of frames at a time and start to notice things. Now whether or not that's what the athlete's trying to do we can only guess!😂

All technical analysis of throws should use this video angle from above.

@@nomad9336 I wish I could find more of them!

I can't do that. My ribs seize up!

Good luck!

ua-cam.com/video/UEw-VMXeRPE/v-deo.htmlsi=BfJXEUAooNrtWBNl Thanks for the info! I haven't seen this video before and I learned a lot. I like analyzing these world class throwers without a lot of knowledge of what they are thinking and then getting their perspectives later. That way I'm analyzing based of what I see and not what they are saying. Seeing videos like this then help me understand what I've misinterpreted or reinforces what I think I'm seeing.

Thank you very much!

Wow I can't believe this video analysis got over 10K views! The glide was the throw that most interested me because I was coaching high school students and everybody had a different opinion and none of them worked.Then I stumbled on this article by Daniel McQuaid mcthrows.com/?p=408 and when analyzing Gong and Dubitskaya etc I knew this was the right technique. Most gliders can't glide far enough across the circle to reach the toe board , except tall throwers like Valerie Adams, Ulf Timmermann etc that don't shift forward. In the rotational shot put they can get the right foot down past the halfway point because they drive and push off into the circle. So gliders by landing at or just short of the middle the only way to get the left foot to the toeboard is to shift the hips forward while in single support on the right leg. Storl's coach actually demonstrated this briefly in one of the CoachTube videos coachtube.com/course/track-and-field/glide-technique-of-david-storl-by-wilko-schaa/11391304. So yes I believe you should open the left foot, knee, thigh and hip while in single support as the hips shift toward the toeboard. This keeps the shot is constant motion forward without any deceleration.

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Thank you and good luck!

Thank you!

You're very welcome! Good luck Kobi!

😂 You are right! Just playing the videos for comparison while trying to get the right video speeds. Alana knows what I'm looking for. Did you see the differences in 1) right leg angle at right heel push off, 2) upper body to right thigh relationship when right toes land in the center, 3) forward drive of the left foot to the toe board before planting, 4) hip forward shift after left foot down, 5) both knees bent in power position, 6) left leg open to the front on the power position, 7) the differences in the reverse of the feet.

To keep the right sweep leg low I use a foam bat target for the athlete to kick. For the low left knee you can tell the athlete to pretend they are in a low ceiling room and/or use the foam bat to keep their head low. Since we are trying to drive forward instead of upward you can have them enter the circle from a South African position trying to drive forward and land as far as they can across the circle. Good luck!

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