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Annealing Made Perfect
New Zealand
Приєднався 9 сер 2015
Our mission is to give you the perfect anneal on your brass every time!
To achieve this goal we have created the first and only smart annealing system by combining induction heating with extensive metallurgical research.
Now it is possible to obtain the perfect annealing setting for your brass using our revolutionary AZTEC mode. The machine can analyse one piece of your brass which will be sacrificed in the process and give you the exact setting to use for the remaining batch which you can use over and over again! It is that simple!
To achieve this goal we have created the first and only smart annealing system by combining induction heating with extensive metallurgical research.
Now it is possible to obtain the perfect annealing setting for your brass using our revolutionary AZTEC mode. The machine can analyse one piece of your brass which will be sacrificed in the process and give you the exact setting to use for the remaining batch which you can use over and over again! It is that simple!
AMP Annealing Mark II DB Quick Start Guide
In this video we go over the basic features of the new Mark II DB. How to analyze and anneal a case and store a setting.
For the full rundown of the operation of the annealer please consult the users manual.
For the full rundown of the operation of the annealer please consult the users manual.
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Відео
AMP Press, Virgin brass vs once fired.
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Why won't my bullets seat fully? We get asked this question all the time and in this video we explore why that might be the case.
When to AZTEC ANALYZE a case when AMP Annealing?
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We get asked all the time at what stage should you analyze with AZTEC mode in order to get the correct setting? In this video we explore why you should always analyze a case that has been shot and fireformed vs a new virgin case.
How to clean your AMP Annealer.
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If you have had your AMP Annealer for a while now it could be time to give it a clean. Keeping the inductor area clean and free from debris is key to ensuring that the annealer can detect the insertion and removal of cases. Additionally keeping the filter clean prevents dust from getting inside the unit. Finally, ensure that you keep your annealer in a warm and dry environment. This is crucial ...
What happens if you anneal the same case twice?
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We get asked all the time if it is ok to anneal a case twice. Sometimes people loose track if they have annealed a case or not and want to make sure they won't potentially ruin it if it is annealed again. We answer that question in layman terms.
AMP Annealing Auto Run
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A long awaited feature to allow the annealer to start the Annealing process without needing to have the START button pressed each time. Info here: www.ampannealing.com/news/65/auto-case-detect-and-anneal/
AMP Press Demonstration
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In this short clip we look at some different scenarios and how they can effect bullet seating force. We look at different neck tensions, the effect of brushing the neck as well as compressed loads and different bullet lengths.
AMP Press Tutorial
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The new AMP Press allows you to precisely see the force over distance required to seat projectiles into cases. You can save and recall data to easily compare results from load to load. See the difference various case prep options have on the force required to seat projectiles and the level of consistency achieved. Batch ammo accordingly with the various Sort options which orders rounds by eithe...
Introducing AMP Press
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The AMP Press allows you to see the force required to seat a bullet rather than feel it. It comes equipped with a load cell and distance measuring sensor which allows for precise force over distance measurements. Easily sort loads by "Peak force" and "Work done" to batch your ammo from the highest force to the lowest.
AMP Press Annealing Brass: Annealed vs Non-Annealed
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In this test we take ten once fired cases, reload them and seat the bullets using our new load cell equipped, automatic bullet seating tool we call the AMP Press. The first five cases were not annealed, the second five cases were annealed BEFORE sizing. To find out more about what we do please visit www.ampannealing.com
Setting AMP Mate Servo direction
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Some people have reported that the insert or eject servos on their AMP Mates are going in the wrong direction or that they are moving before they should be. This video shows the simple fix to remedy this issue.
Introducing Annealing Made Perfect
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A short intro video to show what we do. Find out more at www.ampannealing.com
Annealing test 100 yard group size comparison.
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Read the full report here: www.ampannealing.com/articles/58/annealing-under-the-microscope/ We take 2 identical 30 PPC cases. The first one we shot at the same target 20 times, reloading without annealing in between each shot. We did the same thing with the second case however this time we annealed the case on our MARK II annealer every reload. This is the difference. Special thanks to Lou Murd...
Annealing Brass at 1000 Yards: A Comparative Study
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We have nearly finished Annealing Under The Microscope Part 5! it should be released next week. In the mean time, here is a clip from our trip to Strategic Edge Gun Range where we were testing the effects of annealing vs not out to 1000 yards! The results of which will be revealed in detail in the study. Stay tuned!
Working with Strategic Edge for AUTM Part 5
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AUTM Part 5 is on its way and its our biggest study yet! We are getting real world on target data with the help of Tony and his team at the Strategic Edge Gun Range shooting at 1000 yards! Here is an intro video outlining the team and the rifles and calibers we are using. The study will be posted on our research page here: www.ampannealing.com/articles/ Stay Tuned!
Annealing under the microscope Part 5 Preview
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Annealing under the microscope Part 5 Preview
New AMP MATE overview! Annealing Made Perfect
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New AMP MATE overview! Annealing Made Perfect
Bullet seating press with load cell and auto drive
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Bullet seating press with load cell and auto drive
1 Case, 2 shots, one hole, one speed!
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1 Case, 2 shots, one hole, one speed!
Annealing Brass with MARK II: The New Standard from AMP
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Annealing Brass with MARK II: The New Standard from AMP
Annealing the smallest and largest cases with the new MARK II
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Annealing the smallest and largest cases with the new MARK II
Annealing Made Perfect Autofeed test
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Annealing Made Perfect Autofeed test
Annealing Made Perfect on American Outdoors TV
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Annealing Made Perfect on American Outdoors TV
That’s awesome!! Wow i see now why they are so expensive.
Can you use a damaged case for testing? I crushed neck a bit
is there worry about moly lube in case mouth contaminating or somehow affecting powder?
So would you recommend to anneal after you resized the brass and not before?
I purchased one a few years ago, still works just fine. Was out of reloading for awhile and uncovered it, turned it on and it just worked. Its amazing that 4 makes such a big difference. I always let it destroy a case. Amazing machine. I have had some of the flame types. Never knew if it was right or not. Now I know. I like it so much if mine ever dies I will buy another one!
Can u use Le Wilson neck sizer dies with this press?
Excellent video! Very informative!
i get the same excellent accuracy every time I anneal
This means you should anneal AFTER sizing (FL) the case, because sizing put stress (energy into) on the case. Annealing before sizing has little, if any, contribution to soften the case.
Great video and product. Question - Does the brass need reanalyzed each time it's fired, or will those characteristics repeat for fireformed brass whether it's the 1st or 4th time it's been fired?
You can use the setting generated by the first analysis for every time you reload that case.
In what order should things be done? First annealing and then dies? First dies and then annealing?
Anneal and then size
@@annealingmadeperfect1257 Thank you so much, you were very kind to answer.
They trying hard to sell you $1600 machine , that's about it .
I bought this machine a month or so ago, and just recently I've used it to anneal cases. Right off the start, it is very easy to sure. Shockingly so. The brass cools down in approximately 20 mins, so it's ready to be resized almost immediately. The only thing that kind of made my head scratch was why this AMP get rid of the standard mode for this machine. Is there a reason for that? Thank you.
Muted!
Does it make the conclusion that we should always do annealing on the resized brass?
Always loved this product, but right now not in my budget! Good work.
Wow great job. I am going to buy this next week.
Can this do 470NE? Thanks
Yes it can.
Thank you. I will order one and on waiting list for the AMP press.
Did quenching the brass right out of the annealer instead of air drying make a difference in your hardness scoring?
Uhhh..."conventional" - some would say STANDARD presses and all dies made for them put the shell holder and cases - the parts that are never perfectly "consistent" - on the moving ram and secure the dies in the press frame so they are locked in position and can never move and introduce variables and the ram in the press and the case in the die and the bullet in the case are the only moving parts. And of course they're also multi-purpose and decap (remove primers) and size cases, expand case mouths when loading handgun or straight-wall rifle cartridges, seat bullets and crimp cases when needed. This "perfect" press seats only? And requires NON-STANDARD "dies" for the step where dies are really "needed" least? And the die has to be used "upside down" and "floats" under the ram and must be taken off and put on the "load cell" every time? I fail to see how this "high tech" bullet seater with oddball "dies" can possibly be more accurate OR precise than the STANDARD presses and dies that have been used...forever...to handload and reload ammo even on a "production" level simply because it provides "data" from previous bullet seating "events". It's not like there is anything the press or loader can do after the fact to create better "data" and honestly sizing "force" variation "data" would be WAY more useful for "brass prep" including annealing and checking how "perfect" they are. Neck tension i.e. "seating force" can never be "accurate" if case prep is not "complete" - decapping, sizing, trimming, deburring, cleaning- degreasing, resizing and priming. Factory ammuniton is loaded using "perfectly" clean - inside and out and top to bottom - and uniform cases as "identical" as possible. After firing what possible reason could there be for deviating from the processes required to make the cases as close to "like new" as possible? Neck tension will always be "perfect" if you use "factory" reloading dies and case prep processes to get the cases back into "spec". Neck reaming or turning or otherwise "cutting" after resizing and trimming "perfectly" clean cases to "spec" will never "improve" neck tension which is what it is when cases and bullets are in "spec" because THAT IS WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHEN IT IS IN "SPEC". The material used in cases and case dimensions and seating depth and bullet length and shape determine the overall neck "friction" on the bullet which determines chamber pressure. Altering anything about load data especially case dimensions to alter neck friction does nothing for "accuracy" or "consistency" because all PRECISION built into the "hardware" is LOST. The neck tension "spec" is not meant and the "perfect" neck tensions were "developed" by ammunition manufacturers and gun makers on "day one" of creating new cartridges and turning "wildcats" into commercial cartridges. Nothing about "wildcats" makes them any more or less dependent on those industry "standards" for neck thicknesses when they all use factory cases, case materials, bullets, primers and powders from commercial cartridges. And "data" used to compare "methods" that produce different "finished products" with different physical properties and/or dimensions is useless for determining "accuracy" of loaded ammo which no matter how "consistent" in seating force can never be "consistently accurate" without 100% "controlled conditions" at the range. Some ammo manufacturers DO have "ranges" with absolutely consistent conditions of zero wind and constant temp and humidity because they are underground tunnels below the "frost line" and connected to climate-controlled buildings. They develop or rather make "hunting" bullets, cases, ammunition and "wildcat" cartridges they "commercialize". But they don't alter cases from "spec" for more "accuracy" and don't use dirty or once-fired cases "developing" cartridge load OR RELOAD DATA.
"Benchrest shooting" is not marksmanship.
That "wildcat" has a bullet diameter less than half the inside diameter of the "parent case". Meaning the powder burning pushes "out" on the case and neck walls more than on the base of the bullet. Meaning its a "diminishing returns" situation particularly with the much higher cost of "proprietary" .50 BMG primers. In the U.S. they run $.50 apiece minimum and the only "supplier" is CCI. About the same cost as once-fired "mil surp" Lake City brass and "pulldown" .50 BMG 650-grain FMJ bullets. "Pulldown" Winchester 872 powder from 20mm Vulcan cartridges is as cheap as $10 per pound delivered. With proper annealing and sensible load levels brass will last 15-20 cycles. Using components I "hoarded" 10 years ago I can reload .50 for well under $1.50 per round after the brass is "paid for". It's absolutely fucking ridiculous to waste .50 brass and primers and 3/4 of a .50 powder charge to fire .375 caliber bullets with far less "efficiency" and "cost effectiveness" and way more "investment" than is required for any of several .375 "super magnum" cartridges available "commercially" in the U.S. As for .416 Barrett it's simply a .50 BMG "wildcat" using necked down .50 BMG cases and was the "loophole" Barrett came up with when California banned .50 BMG rifles. It has no "ballistic" advantages whatsoever and is not more "cost effective" to load because mil-surp FMJ bullets and "match" bullets are not available "over the counter". The smaller base diameter and steeper shoulder angle also make it less efficient at turning case pressure into muzzle energy. And you end up with a heavier rifle overall using a .50 BMG barrel "blank" only drilled for a .416 bullet so less barrel steel is "lost". .50 BMG 650-grain FMJ bullets also have a "perfect" 1.000 BC since the BC "math" was developed using that bullet as the "perfect" projectile "ballistically". Hornady .50 BMG 750-grain A-Max bullets are "better than perfect" with a 1.020 BC because they are not handicapped by being FMJ and steel-cored to be Hague Conventions compliant. This "wildcat" is roughly equivalent to a .22-caliber .30-06-based "wildcat" with the case actually necked down to .224 instead of the sabot "Accelerator" .308-caliber "conversions". And just as idiotic. Actually moreso since there is no price difference between small rifle primers and large rifle primers and .224-caliber bullets are enough cheaper than .308s to more than offset powder cost increase. Which isn't HUGE to begin with since .22 "magnum" centerfire cartridges like .22-250 Remington and .220 Swift use nearly as much powder as .30-06 Springfield. Guaranteed Remington .375 Ultra Mag will "outperform" that ridiculous "Hammer" any way you slice it "all else being equal".
All great points and as interesting as the video itself. I did enjoy the video and observing the process and thought; "DANG, that's way more trouble than it's worth." Your comment shows WHY my thought was valid. Just because one CAN do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Shipping weight?
So according to this video it shouldn't matter how precise the annealing is because once you size it. The hardness will be the same no matter if you dropped it to 98 to 100. It will just make the life of the brass live longer.
I haven't seen Vickers being done on curved surfaces and not using the reticles to measure the diamond tips. Interesting.
Trouble is I shoot and reload about 12,000 rounds a yr. Can we get a machine that feeds automatically and wicked quick?
My favorite part is the no box cutter cutter symbol, while he's opening it with a box cutter. I know the symbol is just to get your attention, but funny nonetheless
Who can legitimately question the price point of this machine. So many points of manufacturing. Credit to AMP.
Would it be a lower seating force if you annealed, then resized and still not brushed the inside of the neck? My understanding is you should clean brass, anneal, resize, use graphite or neolube 2 inside the neck, prime, charge then seat the bullet.
You HAVE to resize after annealing. The whole point of annealing is to "soften" the brass so it doesn't split during sizing. What the hell else would you do it for?.
@@deeremeyer1749 my statement was not about should one anneal or not or at what point they should… but rather how you treat the inside of the neck
Invalid example. Shooting and reloading an un-annealled case 20 times into one group is ridiculous and deceptive.
With all the primo gear, I’m a little disappointed that you don’t have an electron microscope sitting on your desk to the left to analyze the case on a molecular level…
I just started annealing my cases because it's beneficial (lol)... but NOW I actually know why! This is the BEST tutorial on the How/Why you should anneal. Brilliant video and explanation - now I can intelligently answer when somebody asks why I go through the trouble to anneal my brass. Cheers!
There is no Sessions button in the menu bar. How do I create a new session?
I should have watched this video when it came out. I have 3 wildcats. .20PPC (.220 Russian case necked down to .20), .338 Edge (.300 RUM necked up to .338), and the much maligned 8.6BLK. People that make their own brass use different cases for the parent. During resizing I use a neck bushing die with an expander ball because that's the die that is available. It's the only die that I still have an expander ball in. Everything else is FL/Neck bushing followed by a mandrel. Typically I'll anneal then size. With the 8.6BLK, as long as I'm using the expander ball, it seems like I should anneal after the carnage of the expander ball's travel. Or better still, ditch the ball.
Never thought .375 could look small
Thanks for explaining the annealing and hardening processes in this manner. Understanding how the energy is stored and released by the two processes helps to make it so much clearer.
It's a big little operation
...now I'm looking at my reloads and thinking "I could have made you better"
what is the rifle fired in this video, action, stock barrel, cartridge?
I still don't see 1600.00. Maybe 600 700 tops.
Wow . That's impressive, great job .
You know this guy is the greatest ballistic accuracy reloader shooter testor in the world .holy six figure reloading testing man cave in the world batman😂
He is the reason berger stuff is so consistent and flawless🤑
Still faster than a muzzleloader 😂
Hands down the clearest explanation of annealing and it's effects on brass. If you anneal, are thinking about annealing you should watch this first!
Amazing.....
Since reloaders use differing techniques to reload, do amounts of annealing change according to the reloader's technique, or should we all be doing it the same?
Love mine
Love my AMP! Thank You everybody that worked on it.
Some people go deep on the reloading rabbit hole.... that ia a very scientific approach to reloading