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The M2 looks like the S2 but I'm curious as to how the "vision tech" cleaning works. Aside from that and an interchangeable battery which is cool and all, means you can just swap batteries when you want to run it back to back, there's a pretty big price difference so we'll see when it's released. As for the filter, if you can find it yes, can always replace it but I can't seem to find any at the moment.

Yes, I have reviewed the Aquasense Pro as well as the normal Aquasense. The Pro is great at being an all-in-one cleaner. That's where it shines. But the Aquasense Pro isn't great at any single feature. For example, it's not the best as just a standalone pool skimmer and not the best at just a standalone robotic cleaner. If you need both a robotic cleaner and surface skimmer in one and want the convenience of it being in just one machine AND you have the money to spend on it, then yes, the Aquasense Pro is worth it. But if you want to save some money, you could do a dual cleaner combo. A surface skimmer plus a robotic pool cleaner used at the same time. Something like the Aiper Scuba S1 Pro and the Betta SE Plus would work well for example, even better imo than the Aquasense Pro.

@@imdefinitelydavid thank you for your thoughts! I just watched your aquasense pro video. I think I’m going to try it out when it comes in and see how I feel about it. I don’t NEED the skimmer feature but it is nice to have for sure. If I can’t justify the price, I may go with the scuba s1 pro

Glad it's working out for you! And yes, there are times when I place the cleaner into the pool before bed and just wake up the next morning and it's totally fine. I think it's because it's a sonar type sensor and not a light sensor.

The cleaner has different preset run-times for different modes as a plug a play. On some modes it'll run 2 hours, on others 3 hours, etc. So essentially, on any mode, it can use UP TO the entire battery, but not on certain modes Once it finishes the mode, it should autopark itself on the edge of the floor near a wall. That's how you know it's done with it's cycle. And yes, it'll make laps around the pool until the preset time is up in all modes. It never finishes early based on pool size or anything, you just let it run a full cycle. You're always free to pull it out early with the hook but once it stops it should park itself. Hope that makes sense

@@imdefinitelydavid makes perfect sense! I wish it had some sort of mapping tech like my iRobot j7+ house vacuum. Thanks, so much!

It is. Based off the Seauto Crab for 2024. The difference here is the brand name and warranty.

That makes sense since Seauto sells the cleaner itself to other companies which they brand it as their own. Those companies do however get to decide on which features are included. For instance, some have multiple cleaning modes out of the box and other brands do not, you have to use the app for it, etc. Although the cleaner works well, it's very confusing which one is which.

The Seauto Crab is great for being a value cleaner. I'm sorry you got a bad unit and had to deal with terrible customer service. This was your experience, not mine. I can only make recommendations based on my own experience with the cleaner. And for me, the cleaner worked well. Even when I contacted the company for info, it took days to respond but they eventually did. Again, sorry to hear about your experience.

Yeah I've been noticing more of these skimmers with the circular insert inside, some even have a separate compartment for a chlorine tablet hidden. And none of them ever advertise it so I'm wondering why. I mean, it's definitely a nice extra feature that makes sense.

It has "app control" and not a remote control. Maybe that's where the confusion is. Sounds similar but different. When I think remote control I think of a physical piece of plastic with buttons on it. The Aiper S1 Pro does NOT have a remote control. It does however, have App control. Which is an online app you download and connect to and by using it you get access to cleaning modes, battery indicator, and cleaning history. But even in that app, there is NO REMOTE CONTROL function unfortunately. Hope that makes sense

@@imdefinitelydavid thanks for your reply @8:13 you mention that you'll get a physical remote control" but your saying that that will only come with the hydro link when it becomes available?

Correct. That was based off the Hydrocomm being released. However, as of about a month or so ago they said that they were no longer going to release it, at least not in the US. Major bummer

@@imdefinitelydavid thanks

@@imdefinitelydavid should i buy one ? lol

Yes, the Dolphin Skimmi has been on my list to buy once released. On first view it seems overpriced. But after doing some research I found it has some extra features other cleaners don't... like some really neat ones lol

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you got a defective S2. The sponge isn't a normal ultra-fine filter like we are used to yes, but working with the second filter it's better than a normal fine. I should have said that it's "their version" of an ultra-fine. I've been using the S2 since I bought it and it works great for me. I switched from the Scuba S1 Pro and I prefer it over that. Sorry to hear about yours

@imdefinitelydavid so I should be able to run it as many times a day as I choose? I'm willing give it a chance but right now it's a $400 bottom dweller. I got it from Amazon so easy enough to exchange

As long as it's charged and has enough battery I don't see why you couldn't run it back to back. If it's only doing short sessions then it's definitely a defective cleaner sorry

@imdefinitelydavid yeah, idk. I tried a few more times and it runs 2x on schedule but won't run a 2nd time unless you plug it in. Doesn't even have to change to green. Plug it in and unplug it and it will run. Seems like a code issue or a bad unit. I dont think the app is coded to latest Android Version. One phone the app works differently

I should have said it's their version of an ultra-fine I apologize. Yes, it's not like a pleated filter but working in conjunction with the second filter, it does work to help with smaller debris

I just bought this cleaner. There is a white sponge in the bag. What’s the difference between the black sponge and the white sponge. Looks to me like the white sponge is the ultra fine or is it the black one?

Yes, the white cotton one would be the more ultra-fine piece, the black one is less fine but can be used as well depending on how fine you need it.

@@imdefinitelydavid thank you!

I prefer the niya 50 because of the extra cleaning modes. On some days when the floor is covered in leaves, it's nice to switch to only Floor mode and have it focus quickly on the floors. Also nice to have just Wall mode to run once every other work for an extra scrub on just the walls. It's not necessary but it's nice to have them as extra/quick options.

@@imdefinitelydavid Awesome. What would your favorite be in the $500 range? Was considering the Niya 50 or Aiper Scuba S1....

Well for me, I prefer a cleaner with a weekly timer and out of those two, the Scuba S1 has one. Unfortunately the Niya doesn't. If it did though, I would go for the Niya. But you might not want a timer?

@@imdefinitelydavid I don't really plan on leaving it in the pool, so I don't think I need a timer. I will be keeping an eye out on prime day sales for both and probably grab one via your links. Great channel man, thanks for the reviews!

Mine gets pretty warm as well. Did you charge it in a hot environment? Like maybe it was 90+ degrees sitting outside? I find that if I charge it early in the day when it's cooler it's not as hot as opposed to later on when it's noticeably warmer. I know there's some sort of recommended charging environment temperature for all chargers but I can't find the number right now

@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks for the reply. It was in the evening and in the shade. Probably only around 78 degrees. I literally could not hold it for more than a few seconds it was so hot. I'll see how it is during the next charging cycle.

Hello! Yes, the skimmer does slow down and turn so the debris at the edge won't be sucked in, at least not unless there's some sort of circulation in the pool. If your return jets are on low and there is circulation in the pool it should be enough to push the debris away from the walls. There are times I watch the skimmer and think that it misses the walls completely but I walk away and come back a few hours later and the debris is all gone along the walls and sucked up.

@@imdefinitelydavid Hi David and thanks for your fast reply. I do have good circulation but the wind and odd shape do have them bunch up many times. One question I forgot to ask was if the filñter basket was fine enough to pick-up pollen. The same pines are also a PIA in spring with everything covered in no time. That is why I went with the double filtration model of the Wybot.

Yeah it picks up pollen, I get it quite often as well

@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks David, great to know. Will be buying this week. Have a great day.

Yes! Most cleaners that work for in-ground pools will work fine for above-grounds. But not the other way around.

@@imdefinitelydavid I hesitated with the Aiper S1 and the Wyrobot C1. but after your review it made me choose the Sonar 30 which is 399€ in France compared to 599€ for the s1 and 649€ for the c1 😅 am I making the right choice?

As a plug and play, turn on and use and take out cleaner, the Sonar 30 wins. The Scuba S1 and Wybot C1 have weekly timers, that's the real benefit of those two. But if you don't mind not having one, the Sonar 30 will work great!

@@imdefinitelydavid In your opinion, in terms of cleaning itself, which is best for you? and the bottom of my pool has bumps in some places, do you think the sonar 30 can go over the bumps easily?

Bumps? Like slopes in the pool? It should do fine over slopes and curves

If the Sonar 50 had a weekly timer function to it, I would totally choose it over the Scuba S1. But since I prefer a weekly timer(yes, I'm lazy lol) I would choose the Scuba S1. But for you it may be different. If you don't mind charging and using it only when you want to, the Sonar 50 works better. Much more aggressive at cleaning overall.

@imdefinitelydavid Thanks David! Appreciate the input!

You fully charge it first, then on the app you select the schedule you want. And from there you put it in the pool and leave it all week. It'll turn on based on how many times you selected and at the end of the week you take it out and charge it again, and repeat the same process every week. Hope that makes sense!

⁠@@imdefinitelydavidthank you, that makes sense.

I was able to test it in a friend's kidney style sloped pool with lots of curves and an 8 foot deep end and it handled it no problem.

@@imdefinitelydavid Thank you.

I agree with you. And I'm glad someone else says this. Robotic cleaners are designed for MAINTENANCE, and maintenance of a pool that's in good shape. Some people expect these robots to be able to go from opening day(green/brown pool with ton of debris as example) to crystal clear in one go. Not even the most expensive high tech cleaner on the market can do that. It takes chemicals and hand vacuuming and multiple runs to get it in shape. For the filming of the S2, I had a surface skimmer in the pool which ran for hours at least before. It had been 105+ degree days for a week and no wind whatsoever. The pool was pretty much as clean as I could ask it to be before filming the S2. I apologize for not showing the debris, I think I looked at the basket and barely anything was there. I've used it everyday since then(has become my favorite cleaner, used in conjunction with a surface skimmer) and it picks up a various small debris. Small bugs, hair, and some sort of white dust I didn't even know I had.

​@imdefinitelydavid - Hi David. Thanks for the prompt reply. Glad you're happy with the S2 and it looks a good machine. I'm similar to yourself and like playing with different Pool Robots. I'm currently doing some experiments with what I class as budget cleaners. I've made a few modifications to get some quite surprising results. Regarding your white powder, if you use TriClor or DiClor tablets it could be those as they break up, even powdered Chlorine. I had a nasty Black Algae attack that I managed to clear up and I found a similar powder when I cleaned the pool after using tablets. I get annoyed at so many Cordless Robot videos that show fake results. They're selling on commission and its not good for the industry. I've seen a number of your videos and like your approach showing waterline cleaning as well as steps / ledges etc. Keep up the good work 👏

You should be able to do it on their main site with the serial number: registration.maytronics.com/

@@imdefinitelydavid My SN # hs too many digits 903HD0143240033

I'm pretty sure there is just one motor in the Polaris but it's a big one and more powerful than other cleaners with 2 or more motors. Between the Sigma and the Polaris, I prefer the Polaris. It has an easier access debris basket and the navigation/movement seems a bit more advanced than the Sigma.

Mine is doing the same thing after a week. Is there a fix?

At the moment I prefer the Wybot S2. It's much lighter and cleans as well as the S1 Pro does.

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you got a defective one. I hope Wybot fixes this for you. It never pops a wheelie for me.

@@imdefinitelydavid Me too, so far no response from their customer service.

The Freedom or the Wybot S2 Pro should work for your pool. Both clean the waterline well but not super aggressive like some other cleaners I've seen before. The waterline for your vinyl lined pool should be safe with either of those two. If I had to choose, I'd wait it out for the S2 Pro. Has many more extra features than the Freedom.

Mine backs up every 10 secs or so.

If I use the cleaner once or twice a week I will most likely go into the All/everything mode. In the video, I like to show the different modes. I use the weekly timer more so than that mode though because I leave it in the pool for a week. If I want a deeper clean in areas, I'd switch it to the mode accordingly.

@imdefinitelydavid Got it, Thank you. I'm looking forward to future videos on this model. So far, it has been going for 80 minutes. The only mistake I made was forgetting to set the pattern 🤦‍♂️. It is in the "Start Pattern." That's not a problem, I just can't figure out where it is going next. I have a 35K gallon (inground) pool, so I think it will go for another 45 minutes before finishing. My area has a lot of grasshoppers & spiders that end up on the bottom nightly. The vacuum has no problem picking them up. Thanks for the response, Sir.

Unfortunately not, they don't make an option for a different filter on the C1.