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The rise and fall of Lord Godfrey | Elden Ring Lore
In this video we will go over the entire life of Godfrey, the first Elden Lord.
from his secret origins as a highlander and a champion of the hornsent to the loyal warlord of queen Marika and up to his death on our hands in the rise and fall of Lord Godfrey.
#eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
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The Hornsent gate of divinity wasn't the first | Elden Ring Lore
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In this video we search of the original divine gate and try to find the common factor between Farum Azula, Enir-Elim and the eternal cities as well as explain how the divine gate actually works. #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
Godfrey's origins and crowning revealed | Elden Ring Lore
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In this video we will try to explain the huge mystery behind the arc of the shadow lands by connecting it to it's real life inspiration and dive into the history of Hoarah Loux before he became Godfrey, the first Elden lord. please use the CC and ignore the generated caption #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
How did Messmer and Melina end up like this | Elden Ring Lore
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In this video we will talk about Messmer and Melina, The abyssal serpent and the gloam eyed queen. How did they end up like this, who burned Melina and what's the relation between Melina, Miquella and Torrent. #eldenring #eldenringlore #shadowoftheerdtree chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Elden Ring sealed gods 03:42 Messmer and Melina's curse 05:32 Abyssal serpent and gloam eyed queen connection 06:...
Metyr history explained | Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Lore
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In this video we will try to explain the history of Metyr, her relation to the Elden Beast, her wound, the Greater will abandoning the lands between and finally is Ymir actually reliable?. #eldenring #eldenringlore #shadowoftheerdtree Chapters: 00:00 topics in video 01:15 Ymir lies 02:27 The Greater will after Metyr 03:11 The Nox treason & banishment 05:44 The Greater will abandonment 08:05 The...
Where did the Erdtree come from | Elden Ring Lore
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In this video we will try to explain the simple question, How did Queen Marika plant the Erdtree through the revelations provided by shadow of the Erdtree. #eldenring #eldenringlore #shadowoftheerdtree
Miquella's Frankenstein monster | Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Lore
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In this video we will go over Godwyn the golden disappearance from Shadow of the Erdtree, did Fromsoft change their mind to Radahn? or did we get it wrong from the beginning? #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
The real reason Radahn halted the stars | Shadow of the Erdtree Lore
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In this video we will go over the lore of shadow of the Erdtree to know the real reason Radahn halted the stars. #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
Is shadow of the Erdtree too difficult | Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree
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in this video we will go over the topic of shadow of the Erdtree difficulty and how i believe it's a good thing. #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #fromsoftware
Unveiling the mysteries of the ancestral followers | Elden Ring Lore
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In this video we will explain the mysteries regarding the Ancestral followers civilization and their Ancestral spirits. #eldenring #eldenringlore Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:30 Ancestral followers 03:05 Shamans and the Greater Will 04:11 Ancestral follower and the Erdtree 05:50 Ancestral spirits and the Erdtree 08:16 Consuming the dead 09:33 Ancestral spirit fight 11:09 Worldview of Ancestral foll...
How did Miquella abandon his fate | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
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I believe Miquella's abandoned fate that we were told about was in game all along, we will go over it and explain why Radahn needs to die to access shadow of the Erdtree. Chapters: 00:00 Miquella's abandoned fate 00:46 Amber starlight 02:34 St.Trina hideaway 04:39 Seluvis potion 06:15 Bewitching branch 06:45 Fate and stars 09:04 How Miquella abandoned his fate 10:12 Dual nature 11:07 When did h...
Deciphering the story trailer | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
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In this video we will decipher the newest trailer for shadow of the Erdtree. we have been tricked by Miyazaki and upon looking into the trailer from that perspective we will discover a lot of interesting details and answer a lot of question. Chapters: 00:00 Miyazaki played us so hard 01:46 Marika's ascension 02:28 Making the Erdtree 03:56 The crucible 05:25 The golden item 07:00 Miquella 08:00 ...
You missed a lot of details | Elden ring lore
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A new boss just dropped for Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree, there is a lot of details and lore to cover and in this video we will try to find those and find who this character may be. chapters: 00:00 Not Godwyn 00:26 Details you missed 02:10 Hair meaning 03:57 Lady of the painting 04:47 Mask 05:26 Abductor virgins 06:32 Closed right eye #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #eldenringlore
The craziest most logical theory you will ever hear | Elden ring Lore
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With almost a month left for the release of shadow of the Erdtree, why not have some fun with a crazy yet very logical theory. Miquella is Torrent and i will prove it to you. Melina restored cutscene: ua-cam.com/video/61uE9KI4KYU/v-deo.html Miquella is Melina: ua-cam.com/video/zZwct5XkWHA/v-deo.html Chapters: 00:00 Torrent is a shapeshifter 01:26 gods and shapeshifting 02:48 Miquella's footstep...
Radagon was always Marika | Elden ring lore
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In this video we will reveal all of the secrets of Radagon including his origins, timeline and nature. as well as explain how did Marika and Radagon produce offspring and the secret reason behind Radagon and Renalla's marriage. The statues in Elden ring are hiding an incredible secret. #eldenring #eldenringlore #shadowoftheerdtree Chapters: 00:00 Marika/Radagon mysteries 00:42 Marika statues 02...
Unveiling the secrets of the eye | Elden ring lore
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Unveiling the secrets of the eye | Elden ring lore
Who impaled Marika | Elden ring lore
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Who impaled Marika | Elden ring lore
Norse mythology explains so much about Elden ring | Elden ring lore
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Norse mythology explains so much about Elden ring | Elden ring lore
Messmer's roots discovered | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
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Messmer's roots discovered | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
Marika is Melina, but not in the way you think | Elden ring lore theory
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Marika is Melina, but not in the way you think | Elden ring lore theory
Who is under the Crucible lion costume | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
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Who is under the Crucible lion costume | Elden ring shadow of the Erdtree lore
This is how Miquella will ascend to Godhood | Elden ring Shadow of the Erdtree lore
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This is how Miquella will ascend to Godhood | Elden ring Shadow of the Erdtree lore
Miquella's true plan is terrifying | Elden ring Shadow of the erdtree lore
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Miquella's true plan is terrifying | Elden ring Shadow of the erdtree lore
Messmer DESTROYS Elden ring | Cosplay build for DLC
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Messmer DESTROYS Elden ring | Cosplay build for DLC
Wolf in Elden ring | Cosplay build
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Wolf in Elden ring | Cosplay build
Can you defeat Sauron and become Elden lord | Elden ring build
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Can you defeat Sauron and become Elden lord | Elden ring build
No phase 2 for Godrick | Witch king build Elden ring
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No phase 2 for Godrick | Witch king build Elden ring
Witch king of Angmar | Elden ring
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Witch king of Angmar | Elden ring
Kratos destroys Malenia | Elden ring (No hit, ng+)
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Kratos destroys Malenia | Elden ring (No hit, ng )
Kratos goes deer hunting with draupnir | elden ring build (Ng+ , no hit)
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Kratos goes deer hunting with draupnir | elden ring build (Ng , no hit)

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  • @timelineenjoyer
    @timelineenjoyer 6 годин тому

    elden ring lore has gotten way too specific especially for a game purposefully abstract. love lore as much as the next but ya’ll need to blink for a few days

  • @TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike
    @TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike 13 годин тому

    "... Without any sign of wavering." This means he did not waver. Unless there is another piece of lore that specifies Godfrey was wavering in his thoughts and/ or internally, the talisman tells us that, externally, he did not show any signs of wavering.... Which, again, means he did not waver. P.S. Apologies if this correction was already pointed out.

  • @aifos5171
    @aifos5171 13 годин тому

    11:07 🥲 I wish

  • @dylanworth8038
    @dylanworth8038 23 години тому

    I just have to say, this is maybe the best and most well thought out theories and video presentation of said theory ive seen maybe ever. I believe this theory whole heartedly and was definitely pickings up on some of these things while playing through the dlc. But you put it together so so cleanly. Very well done friend, im subscribing!

  • @kairecheneau9347
    @kairecheneau9347 День тому

    What if misbegotten are just different beast with intelligence? Stormhawks,wolves,and lions to be exact? Some fly, the big red ones look like red wolves in a human form, and the ones with the cleavers have lion like faces with blue eyes.

  • @NubalanceDNAcDc
    @NubalanceDNAcDc День тому

    #DNspkng

  • @NubalanceDNAcDc
    @NubalanceDNAcDc День тому

    Smpl "ER" mn 911 StatCodeAED "godf 'ER'y" ...😅 Gdfræy spkng "Y" ys DFemLa code 😂 yes næT "ER"Combocodes NuÆrf🎉

  • @user-tb7en5rq4q
    @user-tb7en5rq4q День тому

    One thing about the bonny village bit, it's reminiscent of the village Marika grew up in, down to the celebrations and the braids. I think the reason why even the Golden Order had to respect it is because ultimately, that's what marika was trying to preserve, her culture. The skinning part and the godskin connection I feel correlates to the agreement Marika made with the primordial snake of death (the OG GEQ). The village represents the original contract and stipulations made required for The Golden Order to be established. All in all it would be bad PR for the Greater Will to not uphold it's contract. Just as it would be for Marika to not uphold hers and we see Marika's consequences very clearly

  • @mysterin5061
    @mysterin5061 День тому

    Northerner description: A face found among the hardy people of the unforgiving north. Some say they're descended from giants. I theorize Godfrey/Hoarah Loux is based on the Irish hero Lugh. Lugh's mother is Ethniu (or "Enia"), and her father was Balor, a one-eyed Giant. Godfrey might be the grandson of the Fell God. Since he's an old man by the time we meet him, it might not be crazy to theorize he had red hair at one point. Messmer's flame works the same way the Fell God's does in burning a tree. Likewise, on the opposite side, there's Rennala, a giantess. Her mother, possibly Renna, might have been a Finger Crone like Enia.

  • @miquando5033
    @miquando5033 День тому

    I love the analysis in the first part of the video, but something doesn't click for me in the speculation at the end. First of all Messmer's crusade happened BEFORE Tarnished were banished. Messmer recognizes the PC as tarnished. He wouldn't have Godfrey's soldiers if they already left for badlands. Secondly, I am still bewildered how Horax fot himself subjugated. Such powerful, dominant, testosterone juggernaut would not freely let himself be used and abused by Marika. WHY did he exchnaged divine incantation for erdtree SAP, took on Serosh and let himself be exiled? The nature of 'seduction' must be much more sinister. E.g. mind control spell or other form of manipulation. Also, erdtree stopped producing SAP, because it was burned (dust in capital) and replaced with golden illusion that became the dead object of faith.

    • @miquando5033
      @miquando5033 День тому

      Reading below comments I found my answers: Marika gave Horax an Amber drought, which controls one's fate. He became her puppet.

  • @twiceonnce6757
    @twiceonnce6757 День тому

    I think that to be a god in elden ring y must be lgbtq+ like, Marika is bigender and pansexual (while they was radagon, they married rennala, and while marika married godfrey and itself with radagon) then we have Ranni, wich can marry the tarnished being a man or a woman, making she bissexual, then we have Miquella, who is in a homossexual relationship with his older brother, and now placidussax has 2 genders too? another bigender. is Michael Zaki a secret ally?

  • @twiceonnce6757
    @twiceonnce6757 День тому

    PLACIDUSSAX IS TRANSEXUAL OMG

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 2 дні тому

    I really hope Vaati, Smough town, Ratatoskyr, Tarnished Archaeologist, Lowkey. Your watch thus video. Your points makes so many sense.

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 2 дні тому

    It also makes sense why Marika Seduces Horrah Loux. She needed a Lord in order to become a god. Just like Miquella needed Radahn to be the god of compassion.

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 2 дні тому

    Also, Messmer knows what a tarnished is, and since the Tranished existed only when Godfrey was banished

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 2 дні тому

    So you mean to say the Divinw beast are inspired from Serrosh And the Divine Bird are inspired from the Storm Lord.

  • @zeedozeedo350
    @zeedozeedo350 2 дні тому

    Godfrey is the greatest character in Elden Ring he doesn't use incantations or sorceries, the blood of a god does not run through his veins and he doesn't have powers from an outer god. he doesn't have great runes, and while others battle and fight wars to gain powers he seals his own power, even in his first death he died with Serosh The first Elden Lord and the ONLY character in Elden ring with a remembrance in his name "Remembrance of Hoarah Loux"

    • @Jadizi
      @Jadizi 9 годин тому

      Lol so he wasn't smart enough to cast a sorcery? And had not the conviction to use a simple heal? What kind of flex is that. He's a Meathead and Marika didn't betray him, what she did allowed him and his descendants to be free from what took her centuries to unravel.

    • @zeedozeedo350
      @zeedozeedo350 5 годин тому

      @@Jadizi it's called being a warrior...something you don't comprehend he can learn sorcery but it's for the weak, warriors want to reach greater heights with their own strength and Godfrey in his 2nd phase throws his weapon only using his hands all characters are using sorcery or incantation and yet they are not stronger than Godfrey who only uses raw strength if you still think this is not a flex then there is something wrong with your brain

  • @The_Crimson_Shogun
    @The_Crimson_Shogun 2 дні тому

    Call it cope, but even after the DLC, I was still convinced Godfrey battled Placidusax. My rationalization was, while Placidusax lost two of his heads in his battle with Bayle, he lost another in his battle with Godfrey much later.

  • @Dioptase26
    @Dioptase26 3 дні тому

    I think Pasidusax was defeated by Godfrey first then Bayle finished him off.

  • @tyzombie89
    @tyzombie89 3 дні тому

    Ya know i really dig this theory. However, seeing as how neither Serosh nor Godfrey seem to have any horns, i feel like it might be safer to say that Godfrey wasn’t necessarily part of the hornsent. Rather, what if he was just a highlander who was revered by the hornsent for accomplishing a feat similar to Ornis? The grandam might still be upset with Marika seducing him even in this case.

  • @apolloisnotashirt
    @apolloisnotashirt 3 дні тому

    Finally! A concrete timeline to the events before the Shattering! With the addition of the DLC a lot of the history just didnt add up because prior to this I assumed most of the events happened pretty later on right before the Shattering, but all of it was long before that. Marika's rule happened longer before acquiring Godhood which made a narrative that makes a lot of sense.

  • @cullysloy2705
    @cullysloy2705 3 дні тому

    The sap made him a golden puppet. 14:51 the sap is the same as the potion Ranni kills you for trying to make her drink it. It controls your fate. Amber is fossilized sap. |AMBER STARLIGHT: An ephemeral sliver that gives off a pale amber glow. What remains of a passing flash of starlight. If the stars command our fates, then amber-hued stars must command the fates of the gods. Such is the belief that inspired the use of these shards to prepare a most special draught. Cannot be consumed by mere humans. This is why Nepheli drinks the blue potion. Generational trauma. The story repeats again.

    • @miquando5033
      @miquando5033 День тому

      Oh! That's HOW he was subjugated by Marika! I wondered why such Alpha would let himself be used and abused...

  • @NCRRanger7753
    @NCRRanger7753 3 дні тому

    Miazaki has a real good chance to write books, or have them written explaining more to the story of everyone not all of it, but more lore for fans to snap up like starving paranahs.

  • @gagemcmahon9485
    @gagemcmahon9485 3 дні тому

    Theory fits perfectly great video bro

  • @armandaneshjoo
    @armandaneshjoo 3 дні тому

    19:16 Stormlord was Grandsax. He attacked because Marika usurped GEQ

  • @HellYeahGaming
    @HellYeahGaming 3 дні тому

    I released a theory video a few months ago in which my big conclusion was that Godfrey was Marika’s seduction that really picked up and got a ton of positive attention. We cover a lot of different angles and have some different conclusions but it’s fun to see how we both ended up with that as our central basis.

  • @Blondie-the-good
    @Blondie-the-good 3 дні тому

    You think the reason godfrey choose to fight placi alone is because placi is already damaged due to his fight with bayle so godfrey choose to do a fair 1v1 duel instead of ganking on him with his golden army.

  • @spongemanicecone2736
    @spongemanicecone2736 4 дні тому

    10:03 that explains why the godskin hunt was conducted the way it was: in order for marika to ascend to godhood, she had to commit an atrocity of her own, and to amplify her atrocity she not only killed thousands of hornsent, but skinned them alive (as can be seen in the trailer). The gloam eyed queen, her own daughter melina, learned of this and sought to bring her recompence in the form of the godskin hunt, returning the pain in kind.

  • @gioeleserra5370
    @gioeleserra5370 4 дні тому

    To me, the seduction was also to the hornsent themselves. Keep in mind that Marika, before founding the golden order and being chosen by the greater will, was a shaman of no renown. Even with the powers of the greater will by her side, i find it hard that she could have rose to prominence si easily. After all, according to the lamenter's gaol, the hornsent at one point (probably in secret) REJECTED divinity, considering it to be illeggittimate. So, why the hell wuold they willingly give power to a hornless woman who promised them the elden ring? The answer could be in three things we find: first, thr fact that furled horns were considered a sign of divinity in hornsent culture. Secondly, the mimic veil, which allows to someone to change their appearence. Note that it is also known as "Marika's mischief". Third: the statue we find in the specimen storehouse which reppresents a feminine figure, dressed and posed exactly as how we find Marika, except she has furled horns. Putting this togheder, we can assume that Marika came to the hornsent as a woman with furled horns, promising them the elden ring, the total controll of the world. So they raised Marika to their queen, whom instructed them to build the divine gate, unaware of its actual purpose. In the meantime, she seduced Godfrey, who being a hornless probably was a bit looked down upon in hornsent society, despite his status. Further more, judging by Nepheli Loux, in seems that the highanders, and by extention Godfrey, had a solid sense of justice. So they had something in common: they were both hornless, and saw hornsent society as unjust. However, right before the genocide of the hornsent, Godfrey objected, thinking it was unfair that innocents were also getting killed. In realiation, Marika banished him and all those loyal to him outside the lands between.

  • @Coast2CoastFlyin
    @Coast2CoastFlyin 4 дні тому

    Love this video. I had already theorized myself that Godfrey was of the Hornsent culture, although I came to that conclusion through a very different path: the beast claws. In the cutscene where Godfrey kills Serosh and absorbs his essence, there's a brief moment where serosh's claws are superimposed over Godfrey's hands. Looking at the beast claws, they look nearly identical to these superimposed claws, and Godfrey fights in a very similar manner as the claw moveset. Another clue linking the Messmer soldiers to Godfrey is their use of a stomp attack. Stomps are a pretty unique attack, and they are exclusively used by enemies linked to Godfrey (more on this in a moment) and are a default skill on a single weapon type: axes. Stomp attacks are a skill used against us by Crucible Knights, the loyal warriors of Godfrey himself. The other enemies to use this tactic in some capacity are the misbegotten, which also wield axes and cleavers, along with being explicitly tied to the Crucible. The Leontine misbegotten are also heavily associated with Radagon....who also utilizes stomping prominently in his attacks. The mystery of just who exactly IS Radagon continue to deepen after playing the DLC, despite many of the questions surrounding him being answered. But the idea that he was a factor in the lore going back to the events we learn about in the DLC, to the Hornsent, and to Marika's ascension to godhood, is looking more and more likely. Perhaps, with more lore videos like this, we will find the answer to his origin hidden in the game. Or at least enough clues that we can piece together to draw our own conclusions, if there isn't enough evidence for a definitive theory. While I don't disagree with any of the main arguments being made here, I do have some questions. Or at least one question: what happened to Godfrey and Serosh's horns? While everything pointed to Godfrey being a high status individual amongst the Hornsent, given that Marika chose him specifically to marry, I never actually made that conclusion. Not that it didn't make sense, but because Godfrey (and Serosh for that matter) lack a specific trait of the upper echelons of Hornsent culture: horns. Despite his clear and numerous ties to the Crucible, Godfrey doesn't have any horns. Interestingly neither does Serosh, despite every other lion/lion-like creature in the game having some kind of horn growths. Godfrey's twin sons being born not only as Hornsent, but as uniquely and abundantly blessed by the Crucible, in addition to all the other evidence, is enough to confidently state his origins as an important figure in Hornsent culture (certainly noble, likely even Royal). With that said, what about Godwyn? We don't ever get to see what he looked like before his assassination; instead we get a few brief glimpses of his corpse from a limited angle, followed by what now appears to be putrescence writhing underneath his skin and leaking out of his eyes, as well as an artists rendering of the night of black knives, a depiction which on close examination again raises more questions than answers. Was he born free of the curse of his father's heritage? Or is the blatant absence of any depiction of Godwyn as he was in life a major clue we spent over 2 years ignoring because it was inconvenient to our preconceived ideas about what the DLC would/should be about? We learn that Grace, and the sap of the Erdtree, are linked concepts, if not one and the same. They are also framed in a way that raises some red flags, but without quite knowing why. There's just a vague sense of unease surrounding grace and the sap, like there's more to them than we have been told, but despite those details being withheld, the implication remains that something feels very off. Godwyn shares this same vague sense of apprehension, of there being something about him we don't know that if we did know would totally and irrevocably change our perception of him

  • @Twinkiey
    @Twinkiey 4 дні тому

    When you brought up the storm lord I genuinely gasped

  • @johncrondis4563
    @johncrondis4563 4 дні тому

    Note that Godfreys axe has the same patterning as the Beasts Great Curved Sword. I think there is a very important connection there.

  • @martingonzalez3629
    @martingonzalez3629 4 дні тому

    The three lives Daenerys sacrificed for her dragons were Khal Drogo, The Witch that cursed him, and her unborn son. That last one is a bit of a parallel to Godwyn mayhaps? Obviously Godwyn lived a whole life, but both mothers sacrificed their sons lives.

  • @kellanaldous7092
    @kellanaldous7092 4 дні тому

    Well done, this is much better evidenced by game lore than most of the speculation ive seen since SotE dropped.

  • @SeanHoltzman
    @SeanHoltzman 5 днів тому

    Has anyone tried to summon the Stormhawk in the arena with Ornis? 👀🤔 Might need to in another playthrough

  • @hhowdy
    @hhowdy 5 днів тому

    What happened to the mistranslation video?

    • @G4meplus
      @G4meplus 5 днів тому

      It's still there, I had a technical UA-cam issue with it so it's unlisted atm. Will bring it back soon though.

    • @hhowdy
      @hhowdy 5 днів тому

      @@G4meplus Oh ok

  • @shinyhydreigon7257
    @shinyhydreigon7257 5 днів тому

    The question remains. What is the Sap of the Erdtree? The Erdtree produces 3 things: fallen leaves, which are a sign of decay, light, which is the guidance of grace, and sap. The Erdtree is likely just the Greatree, with the Marika's golden rays of light adorning it, to create the Erdtree we see now. The Greatree's primary function is to act as a conduit for the dead to "return" to it. It seems that this function remains in the Age of the Erdtree. But what does this mean? It makes sense how people can return to the Erdtree through Erdtree burial, but how are they then reborn? We don't see people falling out of the Erdtree. Unless the Sap of the Erdtree IS the very same people who have returned back to it. Greatjar Warrior Alexander's whole journey is about starting out as an empty vessel, and collecting the corpses of fallen champions, and combining them within himself. "Lend me strength, O warriors within! Let us become one champion, together!" I think this mirrors the Erdtree, and Godfrey exactly. Hell we even summon Alexander for Fire Giant. Erdtree burial collects the dead, and produces sap, which is akin to Alexander's Innards. Strength that is bestowed upon those deemed worthy. It is no wonder Godfrey is the leader of the Tarnished, I think he was literally been carrying around fallen champions within himself. Interestingly, this might change how we look at his kin such as Nepheli Loux. When he is banished from TLB, he clearly keeps Serosh, yet reverts back to Hoarah Loux. What does this mean for the champions we carried within him? I think it is very possible they, now free of the Erdtree's reign, are able to be reborn naturally, and become people again like Nepheli Loux.

    • @Coast2CoastFlyin
      @Coast2CoastFlyin 4 дні тому

      So glad you mentioned this. What IS the sap indeed. It seems like, since it ran gold anyways, to be maybe not a good thing? It is what bestows Grace, which we can literally see in one's eyes. We learn this isn't a magical aesthetic change, but an actual, physiological change to the eyes. We know that Grace in the eyes serves, among other possibilities, the purpose of blinding or obfuscating the truth from one's vision. Possibly allows Marika to determine what your eyes do and don't see, which admittedly would perfectly explain how the land of shadow works, if it's in fact true that it's still physically all part of the lands between but simply impossible to see or interact with (what we see dictates our reality. Out of sight, out of mind). Possibly lends more credence to the oft dismissed theory that the Erdtree as we see it is an illusion that only those blessed with Grace can see.

    • @shinyhydreigon7257
      @shinyhydreigon7257 4 дні тому

      @@Coast2CoastFlyin I was of the belief that it was more or less confirmed that the Erdtree is only visible to those with Grace. I believe there is a spirit NPC who says something like where is the Erdtree, when it is literally right in front of him. I don't think Sap bestows grace at all. I've heard people come to that idea based off of the description of the Crimson/Cerulean Flasks, yet that dosn't make sense. Grace is bestowed upon us before we even get the flasks so that dosn't make sense. Hmm, considering we get the flasks just after 1st meeting Melina, would that not mean that she gave them to us?

    • @Coast2CoastFlyin
      @Coast2CoastFlyin 4 дні тому

      As for the Erdtree rebirth cycle and stuff, I'm admittedly not sure. The DLC honestly just made that whole issue even more confusing for me, especially in Elir-Ilim where we find different yet still familiar golden trees. Then there's Marika's little golden tree, the original Erdtree as seen in early iconography previously theorized as depicting the Great Tree by Tarnished Archeologist and others. In typical From fashion we get a huge piece of evidence that explains something we previously had no way of knowing, but instead of clarifying anything it just added more questions. One thing I will say though is that sap is the means by which Grace was bestowed, and Grace is the means by which Marika exerts her control over TLB. By controlling what we see, she controls our reality. To what end, I cannot say, but I'd try to cut back on slurping down those tear flasks. Whatever it is exactly we're drinking, it can't be good for us

  • @buckschneider7973
    @buckschneider7973 5 днів тому

    Why would Godfrey be the seduction? If there's anyone who's chad enough to be with Marika it'd be Godfrey

  • @williamjohnson3474
    @williamjohnson3474 5 днів тому

    It would be interesting if he attained that high standing maybe even that if a lord, and if he chose for Marica to return through the divine gate, that being the seduction I stress of his chosen consort perhaps the gloom eyed queen, there’s not a lot of basis for this, but I think I’d be an interesting idea

  • @Trimondius
    @Trimondius 5 днів тому

    Beautiful theory that ties up alot of loose ends,I had my suspicions eversince I played the dlc that Godfrey was one of the reasons why Marika gained so much influence amongst the hornsent.That and the lesser theory that she somehow was the only successful jar saint which granted her power and her alter ego Radagon.The talisman you mention,Lords Bestowal,is also found in Messmers Shadow Keep,which means Godfrey was aware and even interacted with Messmer.

  • @michaeldean1924
    @michaeldean1924 5 днів тому

    You think Horah Loux tamed the Elden beast for marika?

  • @kyleharrison713
    @kyleharrison713 5 днів тому

    Piece by piece you'll put it together. Then we can review it all and reflect.

  • @THETYMEKK12
    @THETYMEKK12 5 днів тому

    Incredible analysis. Grounded yet creative :D

  • @Thrasher-92
    @Thrasher-92 5 днів тому

    I think youre theory is good in some points but not lore accurate in others...but its a nice video Im not agree with serosh, godwyn and the seduction But the origin of godfrey its ok, the reason of the crussade its ok too, and the timeline its (mostly) ok But serosh its from farum azula, so godfrey battled first placidusax (hoara loux, not godfrey) Here, the lord of beast serosh, in service of dragonlord, was took, and godfrey born...he decides to act as lord, and serosh begins yo act as his regent Then, the erdtree born and the fire giants war occurs Then, he beat the hawk of the storm, the stormking A crown its warranted with strenght, and placidusaxx was elden lord...so godfrey neeeded to beat the dragonlord to be elden lord, and then, act as a defender of the erdtree, then, bring war yo the world to mantain the erdtree safe Morgott abd mohg are the firstborns of godfrey, not godwyn (Godwyn was born when the primordial energy begins to weakened, thats why he is more human and younger than morgott looks, plus, the sigil of morgott shacles and everything related to morgott abd mohg its from the bounty age and the crucible, and the sigil of the era of godwyn its the normal erdtree, you can see this in the incantation to resist lightning and the leyndell symbol of leyndell knights, instructed by godwyn) Finally, the seduction its ftom the 2 fingers to marika They offer marika power, cause she is and empyrean chosen to start a new age, the erdtree age So they gave her support and marika appears in belurat, as the primissed god of the hornsent, the one who would guide her to the divinity they wanted But divinity its a prision Marika was betrayed, and during all her life, was a slave of the golden order...this, made her lost faith, and then she decides to destroy de erd, the golden order and break the e.r

  • @mariodiaz2449
    @mariodiaz2449 5 днів тому

    There's some cut content regarding miquella and Messmer that I think actually supports the crusade timeline. Originally, Messmer would say something like "Thou art tarnished...Miquella spoke of thee" (paraphrasing) To me this line being cut actually supports the theory that Godfrey's banishment was the trigger to the crusade. If they had kept the line then the crusade would have started before Godfrey's banishment since clearly Messmer did not know about the tarnished. But now that it's gone, this implies Messmer was already aware of what a tarnished is, thus, the long march had to have happened before the veiling of the shadow lands. As a follow up theory, I think the presence of the impalers catacombs in the weeping peninsula might point to the long march being forced by spear point. There is evidence of this with the rusted anchor description too. There was one left behind ship, I think the last tarnished ship got cold feet and attempted to remain only to be taken out by Messmer the Impalers forces, with the dead from his army being entombed in the impalers catacombs

    • @mariodiaz2449
      @mariodiaz2449 5 днів тому

      TLDR there's a cut line in Messmers dialogue that supports the timeline and it was Messmers army that hounded the tarnished from the lands between

    • @ripvanwinkle3432
      @ripvanwinkle3432 5 днів тому

      Miquella is there in the shadowland, so if that was in there. I would interpret it as him stopping by telling this is what our mother/father did.

  • @proudlarry8225
    @proudlarry8225 5 днів тому

    The existence of lion beastmen likely predates the sacred beasts of Enir Ilim but Godfrey is DEFINITELY "the seduction". The Hornsent absolutely hated the idea of their perfect saint Marika recruiting the highland warriors and betraying their plans for her.

    • @Thrasher-92
      @Thrasher-92 5 днів тому

      The seduction is the vengeance that two fingers could grant marika when they gave her support to be the next god of the coming age (erdtree) marika and the numen were oppressed, so, marika in the finger ruins take the bell, the two fingers gave her support and she used this to convince the hornsent that she was the chosen to lead them to the divinty they wanted...and the betray, its from two fingers to marika... They prommised her glory, power, vengeance, but never said the cost... Divinity its a prison, its a Cage Marika was a slave of the g.o during all her life Thats why when her faith fades, she started the crusade

  • @Mattin_Satteo
    @Mattin_Satteo 5 днів тому

    I can't understand how your videos are not up in the Lore Olympus with Vaaty, Crunchy, Smaughtown, Ratatoskr, miss Chalice, Kosm etc... This one was so fu**ing good...

    • @tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w
      @tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w 5 днів тому

      Right?! Especially seemingly English isn't his first language, and yet his narratives and well-reasoned arguments are more coherently, succinctly laid out than 99% of ER lore content creators. Huge kudos and gratitude for this guy's vids 👏

    • @Mattin_Satteo
      @Mattin_Satteo 5 днів тому

      @@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w I only know a few good as he is with explaining lore... But many don't make almost any video rn... There is an Italian guy, Sabaku no Maiku, who does plenty of videos and is known in italy as the OG Lore Enjoyer, and even him is not as productive as the Alchemist. GG indeed, my fellow tarnished!

    • @maruc14
      @maruc14 5 днів тому

      Seriously, a lot of new insight. Keep em' coming.

    • @G4meplus
      @G4meplus 5 днів тому

      Thanks a lot my friend, it's incredibly appreciated. Making lore videos was always something I wanted to do and the important part for me is providing value for the community, I am almost at 4k subscribers which is amazing that all of those people enjoy my videos and trust me. Don't get me wrong achieving the amount of success that someone like Vaati and smoughtown have would be mind blowing for me but, tbh those creators are incredibly talented, I am yet to achieve their level of mastery over the Lore and video making skills. Hopefully I am on the right track though.

    • @Mattin_Satteo
      @Mattin_Satteo 5 днів тому

      @@G4meplus I totally get it, I also am always thinking of making videos about some games and their lore... And even if you already make really amazing videos I am sure you have the right spirit to keep improving and getting even better! P.S. You really have some of the most complete and deep theories in the lore community, so don't underestimate yourself!

  • @Billyboy597
    @Billyboy597 5 днів тому

    Nice video. I get caught up with the divine invocation of the hornsent versus dragon communion. What i mean is the consumption of "spirit" versus "flesh." Hornsent continually summon the spirits of their defeated enemies and gained increased powered. But, with dragon communion, the individual has to literally eat a heart of flesh or stone everytime for increased power. Idk, cannibalism is a theme throughout Dark Souls and Bloodborne, so I think I'm partly trained to look for cannibalism in these games 😂. But, I get "Soylent Green" vibes from the Lord's Bestowal talisman. You could compare "sap" to "blood" and that Godfrey has pause at this new flesh consumption ritual.

    • @mariodiaz2449
      @mariodiaz2449 5 днів тому

      This makes me think of the raw meat dumpling. Implied to be human flesh, it both heals you and poisons you.

    • @Billyboy597
      @Billyboy597 5 днів тому

      @mariodiaz2449 Nice point. I forgot about that item. There is the Revenger's Shack where we find all the raw meat dumplings, as part of the frenzy flame quest, where the maiden eats eye balls

  • @tyzombie89
    @tyzombie89 5 днів тому

    Man your videos are amazing. Great evidence and i do think it makes sense. My question is, in light of this evidence, where does the Gloam-Eyed Queen fit in?

    • @TheBrokenOrder1
      @TheBrokenOrder1 5 днів тому

      The current most believable theory is that GEQ was Marika's past title, before becoming Marika, the Eternal she was Marika, the gloam eyed queen

    • @G4meplus
      @G4meplus 5 днів тому

      Thank you my friend, about the gloam eyed queen I still can't get my head wrapped around it. There are a couple of theories flying around but, I really feel something is missing. Something we are yet to discover.

    • @jakobrenner2230
      @jakobrenner2230 4 дні тому

      I'm kinda in a "middle-camp" regarding this. On the one hand, I agree with the Alchemist that Melina has an Outer God of Death within her. But on the other hand, I do believe that Melina IS the Gloam Eyed Queen, not that that's the name of the Outer God (who may well be the Twinbird's Outer God). My reasoning is that an Outer God and an Empyrean are two different things and the GEQ is very clearly identified as the latter category. Adding to this, the Blackflame Monks are very explicitly identified as having aligned themselves with the _god-slaying_ black flames, which would mean the Fire Monks already existed so the Giants were already defeated and the Age of the Erdtree began. We must remember that if they retained their god-slaying properties, then it must have been around the time of the GEQ, before Death was sealed by Marika into Maliketh's Black Blade. This is also assuming that Age of the Erdtree =/= Golden Order and the latter began only after the age of plenty (the Erdtree's first phase) ended, but both would fall under the "Age of the Erdtree". With all of this being said, it would be dishonest of me not to clarify that I'm 100% biased in favor of Melina being the GEQ, as I find personal satisfaction in the very concept from a character standpoint. But of course, I am also aware that this opinion is far from being universally agreed upon. Thank you for reading my essay. Cheers!

  • @thishandleisbacon
    @thishandleisbacon 5 днів тому

    Daenerys hair style sure looks familiar here 24:24