We have an LC V8 in Dubai and it is the most reliable car in the world with the least depreciation. I regularly sit in one in Africa with 600k+ on the clock and the interior still doesn't make noise going over horrible roads. These are tanks!
That's the people that actually appreciate the car. Not to mention, you don't want your luxury SUV breaking down just anywhere in Africa. I'm not driving the Mercedes when it has a chance of not making it back home
People love these trucks because they harken back to a time where products were built to last. The age of tv and appliance repair shops, shoe cobblers and hardware stores - a time where people fixed what they had instead of just replacing it. There will come a time, and perhaps it's already here, where people will long for the agency they and their ancestors once had and will curse the trojan horse of convenience that has eradicated it.
You can either get conspiratorial about greedy companies trying to increase profit margins with a strategy of "planned obsolescence", or you can just look at the fact that environmental regulations have ironically incentivized companies to design products that don't last and are thrown out, and consumers literally can't afford the old "buy once cry once" purchasing strategy even if they wanted to. Everyone lives paycheck to paycheck because their local zoning board is captured by existing property owners who vote for whoever will block development, and because every fruitful career path is fully credentialzed by the government to the point that in some places you can't even cut hair without a license (that was a big part of feudalism, it was just the Monarchy creating laws that restricted the practice of various trades to whoever had political connections, otherwise known as a guild system). But of course nobody pays attention to their local government, everyone worships Washington D.C. like it was the headquarters of the Avengers who were going to come and solve all their problems. Maybe that's why Marvel movies are so popular, they appeal to the childish conception that the only way to change the world is to have some sort of unnatural power that most humans don't have. Washington D.C. has that kind of power, but it turns out its not really much of a force for good. Whether you think the problem is that "your" job has been shipped to to China, or that the problem is we don't tax the rich enough, you're wrong.
If they offered the car for what it was worth and didn't overcharge for a bargain brand (albeit bulletproof) vehicle they would still be selling. I mean there haven't been updates to the design in years how are they still charging almost $100k for this when the R&D has been paid for many times over?
@@noahsyndergaard1560 I think pristine essentially undriven examples will hold their value but yeah, once people see what the electric suvs can do it will be a select few who would fork out nearly a $100k for a used Toyota. But then again a used ITR in excellent condition can go for over $50k so who knows what lurks in the mind of a rich fan boy.
they dont sell these much, so an increase of 1000 per unit can be substantial. Honestly, there are only select few that looks for these type of vehicle and 90% will never ever go off road.
It's hands down confidence inspiring to the point of feeling indestructible and the longevity of a Roman highway. This will probably outlive many of us .
We bought a 91 LC in 1993 and it still runs and drives like a champ today in the Middle East harsh environment! 29 years later and 450k on the dash still works!!
Great video! Still rocking my 2006 Sequoia 4.7L V8 at 165K miles. The rig is bullet proof and in 10 years of ownership, ZERO issues! When the time comes to upgrade, I'll probably be looking at a Land Cruiser. I also own a 2015 Lexus GS 350...another quality, long-lasting car. You can't go wrong with a Toyota/Lexus.
I love Doug Demuro, and have for a very long time considered his videos to be the best of the best when it comes to in-depth car reviews. However, and with all due respect to Mr. Demuro - you guys’ videos are just plain better. I absolutely love the style of these videos, and how thorough you are with the details. The shoppe time portion is awesome as well. Thanks for this great product, gents!
Unlike many of todays SUV's...The Landcruiser( and LexusLX ) have serious off roading chops. They are structurally built to handle off road It can go where no Escalade can go....which is why one of the reasons why it will still be on the road long after vehicles like the Escalade have been junked
The beauty of the Land Cruiser is you can drive it to the hospital to pickup your newborn, and 16 years later you can hand him/her the same keys to go to college.
My brother had a 1996 Land Cruiser in a beautiful metallic red with a tan leather interior. It was a $52k vehicle then and so it’s always been ridiculously expensive. He leased it and despite my suggestion did not buy out the lease. Everyone loved this vehicle in our family, especially his small children that would comfortably hang out in the 3rd row. In my opinion this version was better looking than this last edition and had the better inline 6 engine. I will always remember this vehicle fondly. For those of us that appreciate an old school solidly built vehicle this is a big loss. Rest In Peace Toyota Land Cruiser, you were always the best in your class!
The land cruiser is expensive because its parts are all top quality, built with extremely tight tolerances, (e g multiple times more precise than the competition)
Aswell as that, it's built to a higher standard than the rest of the Toyota pineup as well. Even the engine, most of the moving parts are beefier than the ones in the 5.7 tundra.
My '13 is my daily driver. It has 122k miles on the clock. And all Ive ever done with it is basic maintenance. I absolutely LOVE it. Im never selling it.
Update: I now have 158k miles on it. No issues whatsoever. It just keeps going, and I love it for that. Its been my favorite daily driver that Ive ever owned.
@@ramennoodlz still is overpriced, this bucket has no tech, no advancement and costs 87k. You could buy any used SUV from up to 15years ago and it's the same thing at a fraction of the cost. I'll bet you a chevy V8 lasts longer, and a replacement should it pop is cheap as shit
I bought mine used and it was 54k. Can’t distinguish the difference between the used one I have and a fresh one. All the same! Getting this off of the pavement and it all makes sense. No rattling and so capable. This thing puts a smile on my face with every drive and has for the past 3 years. On top of that, there’s something to be said about driving a unique vehicle that will one day be a collectible. It also inspires me to keep it clean.
I take delivery on my 2021 Land Cruiser Heritage Edition next week. They only made the LCHE for 2020 and 2021 but they only made my color (Magnetic Grey Metallic) and Classic Silver for 2021...and they also only offered the optional third row in the LCHE for 2021. Given they are only making a small fraction of the small # of LCHEs in my color, and even less with a third row in my color, it should hold value very well. I'm excited to take delivery!
@@aqwplayer222 It doesn't make sense to me because usually ruggedness and simplicity is cheaper. I guess the resulting reliability should raise the price but it never has with cars, the opposite in fact.
Here in Finland there are exactly 199 Land Cruisers for sale right now. Of those, 154 are over 100k miles. 107 are over 200k miles. 40 are over 310k miles (500 000 kilometers). 16 examples are over 400k miles. And lastly one for sale is over 500k miles (807 000 kilometers). I personally know a man who bought a Land Cruiser new in the 80's, he still has it, it has 1,3 million kilometers on it (812k Miles), he still drives it, and it has the original engine and transmission (straight six diesel with manual).
I only own a beater 97 Camry and this thing just won't die. It makes me understand why the Land Cruiser is ridiculously expensive. Even 30 year old ones!
The best SUV ever in my opinion! Period. A legendary maschine with unsurpassed quality and reputation. Buy one if you can afford it before they are gone.
Greatest car ever. I'm so sad to see it go. I'll buy a 200 series in a couple of years. SO GLAD my brother bought one recently. He'll be able to sell it for more than he bought it in 5 years.
09:50 "You're buying this to keep for 10-15 years" - I've kept my SKODA for more than that... A Land Cruiser is literally a vehicle you can keep your whole life! 30 to 40 years if you take care of it.
Every second retired oldie in Australia has these towing a fat caravan around. But we don't get the petrol 5.7, only the 4.5lt twin turbo diesel V8 mated to a 6 speed auto.
Great review fellas! I currently own a 2017 TRD PRO Tundra. I love these vehicles for the Mechanical aspect , not necessarily it’s high tech interior. 5yrs with my truck & no mechanical issues what’s so ever, my buddies bought Chevys , Ford & Dodge truck & 3 yrs in all of them have had some issue including check engine lights.
Spread the cost over twenty years and the price isn't that outrageous. Just don't be silly and use this as a commuter vehicle. Save it for hauling the family, hauling stuff, and taking trips, especially to places lesser vehicles can't easily go.
My 91’ puts a smile on my face every day. It’s great. Slow, drinks like a fish, and terrible road manners. But genuinely a great vehicle. It has a certain level of charm that nothing else can compare to
Not long ago Toyota Australia said the V8 diesel was being axed so all the remaining V8 diesels sold out in no time at basically full price. The upcoming 300 series Landcruiser is still coming to markets such as Australia and I look forward to it as I trust Toyota and believe the future non-V8's will still be ultra capable and ultra reliable. Fingers crossed the interiors retain as many physical buttons.
Hopefully, Toyota decides to make a simple turbo engine. Low pressure turbo engines are reliable, they just cost more to maintain. All depends on the details of course.
I used to sell Toyota’s and I totally agree the land cruiser is not a lease vehicle all the customer I’ve encountered who purchase land cruiser are ones who previous have owned them. And these customers typically don’t cross shop. They tell stories of their vehicle and they do purchase them to keep them. Soo true
I own a 2019 LC200 and wouldn’t give it up for anything. My dealer actually contacted me a couple of months ago wanting to buy it and offered me almost what I paid for it. Not a chance! Sad to see them go☹️
@@bluecruiser2019 in 2019 dealers around me were not moving them fast. They gave me 10k off msrp. Only had 4miles was sitting in there showroom. They told me they only sold one maybe 2 a year. I believe they though they were gonna get stuck with it or do a dealer trade.
you should win an award for the quality of your video production ... every element is perfect. This coming from a guy who has been involved with video in one form or another since the mid 80's. Great job, my friend ; )
We are getting the new 300 Series here in NZ and Australia. But the stock of the existing 200 series are already sold out and used a selling more than 30% of the retail value. In Australia, the LC200 sales equalled the total sales of most European brands.
@@2003evodave just in Australia in 2020 they sold, 15k Landcrusier 200 series. 18k- Landcrusier 150 Prado, and 12k - Landcrusier 80 series pick up. In contrast, BMW sold 700 x7 model, and 300 x5 suv Audi sold 200 q7, and Landrover sold 700 discoveries.
"Has such a tremendously warm resonant frequency" I feel the same way when I can no longer hold back the diarrhea while stuck in traffic and just let it escape, coating my legs and seating - that one minute of warmth which soon turns cold and foul.
Great review. I bought a 2021 well before Toyota announced they were killing it off. I got a great deal. Now everyone is paying over sticker and they are crazy expensive. I will say it again. This will be the most sought after iconic Land Cruiser ever made. Prices will stay sky high. How can somebody buy a Tahoe or a Yukon or a navigator instead of this monster? I just don’t get it but I understand our American large SUVs do better on comfort and space. Last parting thought. if you are in the market for an SUV and you have the means I would dive right in and get one. There is an X factor that the Land Cruiser has when you look at it in your driveway or your garage it’s a very special car. These are more rare than Ferraris and if you need to drive from the US to Argentina there is only one car that will get you there. And there you have it
Discontinued in the States but not in Asia, I actually owned two LC-200 V8 diesel ... 2009 and 2016. I can say it's bulletproof in terms of reliability and value. I won't trade anything for less... less is more!
You can get the 3rd row in the Heritage for 21' only. Also can get silver or grey in the HE for 21', not just black or white. I know cause I agree with this review 100% and picked up a Silver HE with 3rd row seating to replace my old Tundra and last me until retirement and beyond. Great review as always...these guys "get it"
Never mind Mark just explained about the quality and durability is exactly right actually him and Jack are dead on correct on this vehicle but the Land Cruiser has always been like this I still remember it in the 80s on my dad worked for the forklift division of Toyota, as a kid I open the door and sat in one, and as an adult I just recently did the same thing and you still get the same feeling about the vehicle.
He mentioned in the last livestream Jack and himself plan on doing videos on their personal car/daily drivers in the coming weeks discussing their ownership experience and problems
My biggest gripe with this rig is that it only has a 25 gallon tank. The Tundra gets a 38 gallon tank with the same drivetrain which is more adequate. For an “overland” vehicle you’d think they would prioritize range more than they do, if you’re off-road with bigger tires, bumpers, and gear, you’re probably only gonna get 250-300 miles in a tank which is pretty sub-par at this point.
We have one LC 5.7 L here in the Middle East, and we do not want anything else: Reliability is amazing, there is no bulls..it gadgets in the cabin. Roads here are straight, so cornering is not a matter of discussion. Air conditioning is more powerful than in any of the competitors, which is important here. Shopping mall, desert, towing, mountains, we do not ask ourselves if it is going to make it, but when we can go again. An iconic machine!
I totally understand what you are trying to say about this thing, I got a Tacoma and bought it as my one and last pickup. Toyota doesn't do anything extraordinary, they just do everything really well. Reliability has a savings not only in cost but time. And time is so valuable today. Peace of mind not having to deal with stupid sh*t with your car...priceless
Great video! I truly miss the days of a bare-bones, all mechanical, body on frame, affordable SUV. I think if one of these manufactures like Toyota, Honda, GM etc. came out with a small, "old tech", all mechanical, off-road type, small 4x4, at an affordable price, they would go flying off the lot
It sounds like your are describing the FJ from the mid-2000s . With its current sky high resale value people forget FJs were priced as a very affordable alternative to the 4Runner at that time. Too bad the ergonomics were a disaster, the styling was juvenile and sales eventually fizzled out . Toyota has a capable and good looking 2 door Prado in production that could fill the same market space today. If they could be bothered to ship them over with the 4Runner and Lexus GX which are built in the same factory, Toyota would surely have a hit on their hands.
The production quality of the videos of this channel is so high. There are numerous fine touches to the shot angles, the lighting, and the piano music choices. Very enjoyable to watch. Not to mention the top notch technical review contents, which are needless to say.
Comparing a LC to a Volvo XC90 is like comparing the Statue of Liberty in a casino in Las Vegas to the real one in New York. The two are not even in the same ballpark. The LC is a vehicle that, with addition of some better tires, can literally take you anywhere in the world. Your Volvo has trouble getting to the shops and back. Who cares about the driving dynamics and interior comfort if you can't count on the vehicle in any situation? These are large SUVs not weekend sports cars. LC aren't made for driving dynamics; they're made for driving through a war zone, around the globe, to the arctic or antarctic poles. You might never use it, but isn't it reassuring to know it can if you need it to?
@@JacesOwnWorld Well it'll probably hold it's value and potentially appreciate because it's known for lasting longer than the sun. However the usability experience (performance, comfort, tech, fuel economy) will all suffer as a result compared to everything else.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey there are a bunch of cars that “eventually appreciate” but that’s long term and it won’t ever reach the $80k price tag of it being new.
@@JacesOwnWorld Agreed, though I think this car/truck may be part of the exception. Look at how 4runners, tacomas, tundras hold their value. With big ICE "tank" cars beginning to no longer be sold I expect car/trucks like this to increase in value.
Wish I had this truck right now. One of the worst winter storms ever has hit a week ago in central Germany, we are buried in snow and in negative degrees F right now. Normaly we do not get this kind of weather at all. My cars, Ford Escape and Fiesta, are still stuck in a mountain of ice, been hiking to work three miles for six days now. Watching savagegeese to keep me warm at night!
Toyota did this to themselves. They priced themselves out of the market. The land cruiser has lower trims in world markets. but they essentially gave the denali equivelant trim only to the US then wondered why it didn't sell. This has lower trims that would start as low as sub 60k, if they brought that to the US this would still be alive.
Toyota offers the Lexus GX and 4Runner and didn't want to cannablize them, but yeah, a decontented LC is what a lot of enthusiasts would've liked to buy.
It's because it would compete with the sequoia too (basically look the same minus the off-road ability), but they should just keep the land cruiser instead.
I think it is due to us laws for imported cars + fuel consumption + Toyota pushing lexus. All this and more, made Toyota decide to not market Lc in the US
@@loki_wolff The sequoia was toyotas biggest mistake, it should have just been the land cruiser throughout all the trims levels, down to the base model, then just let the 4runner cover the price category below. They overfilled their lineup when it wasn't doing too hot to begin with
My wife had a 2007 Yaris 5mt, we bought it used with like 1,500 miles on it in 2007 (back when it was a Toyota and not a rebadged Mazda). Oil changes, air filters, 1 brake job, and the 100k service (although it was still running fine before the service, I just follow the manual), clutch didn't slip even after ~120k miles of use. The AC compressor failed around 118k and the rear wheel speed sensors failed around 120k, so we traded it in towards a new 2017 corolla iM 6mt hatch - which has only seen routine maintenance to date. Meanwhile, I had a 2006 WRX wagon, and although I loved the cargo space, I was always working on it because stuff just failed/broke (endlinks, ball joints, clutch before 100k, radiator, the list goes on). When I got rid of it, I opted for a Lexus IS350 Fsport RWD instead, only a year in to ownership so far, but it's only been routine maintenance, and that's all I expect to have to do while I own it. Toyota/Lexus built a reputation, and are not resting on their laurels.
Mark was talking about his XC90 being in the shop 4 times in the last 8 months. My 98 4Runner still hasn't ever been in the shop 4 times. It makes me wonder if he has ever owned a good Toyota. You know that rig isn't going to break down on your next trip, maintenance costs year in and year out will be negligible and if you want to sell it it will have great resale. I think old-school Toyota products are for people who don't like to throw their money down the drain when making a big purchase.
On the subject of the engine. The 5.7 V8 is available in most markets outside the US, but it’s optional not standard. This can be equipped with the 4.6 V8, and standard is the 4.0 V6
I was in an Older Focus and the stereo just had a cd player and a small led screen for the radio stations. I miss the simplicity of the old stereo systems. The touch screens are great and everything they offer is helpful to people but it was nice to just see a simple radio. Great video.
This is discountinued in the USA only. We should not be worried about it. The tech and others are more than enough for normal persons that is why they are selling like hot cake in middle east, Africa and Asia. That's why United Nations use this one for their use.
I’ve owned five Land Cruisers, and my current one is a 2012 - I love that they never seem to break. Literally I’ve not had a single problem with any of them. And as for the price, they are a steal when you calculate sales price you pay vs sales price you get when you sell it. I don’t need another one, my currently one has several hundred thousand miles left before I need to switch it, but this video has me considering buying a second one while I still can.
v8 pros: 1. makes more power 2. no cylinder deactivation 3. 'fairly reliable' 4. makes good power wow great analysis i really see why the v8 is essential in this car, thanks
There are 350 million people in the USA and Toyota sold 3500 Land Cruiser.‘s last year. .0001% of the population has this car. It is more rare than a Ferrari. Think about that a Toyota more rare than a Ferrari. Great review guys. This is the greatest vehicle ever built. It’s a hyper capable will last 30 years luxurious and over built. There is nothing on earth like a Land Cruiser.
My grandma's husband has a 1985 Land Cruiser. That thing was beastly and reliable. he had it and abused it. Drives from SoCal to Nicaragua and back. He sold it in the early 2000's for top dollar. regardless of miles and condition. My aunt (His kid) bought a 2008 Lexus GX. Similar in quality, mechanics, capability and simplicity. I didn't understand the allure of those key features until my older years. I am thankful for these types of vehicles and that we can still hold on to that bit of "motoring." We are in a weird time. Seeing the transitions of what many of us grew up with (NA Engines, V8s, Manuals, ETC) to the modern approach (Turbos, Direct Injection, Stupid complicated screens and options). I will miss these types of vehicles with all my heart. The Land Cruisers, 370 Z's, Chevy SS's. Heck, Ill treasure my base model Chevy Spark more now. thank you for making and sharing this video!
I was disappointed in your 2017 review of the Land Cruiser.You seemed to harp upon its price and fuel guzzling.Today,I detect a sense of melancholy in your voice as you discuss its demise.I got my driver's license behind the wheel of a stripped down 1956 Buick Special with no power steering or power brakes, but the damn thing always started and ran till an old age.The Land Cruiser is my sentimental replacement for that old Buick,but unlike it,I shall drive this for the rest of my days and hand it down in a couple of generations to someone else that appreciates things that were built to last.I really appreciate your change of heart and the nice things you have to say about what is many of your readers million mile dream vehicle.
We have an LC V8 in Dubai and it is the most reliable car in the world with the least depreciation. I regularly sit in one in Africa with 600k+ on the clock and the interior still doesn't make noise going over horrible roads. These are tanks!
That's the people that actually appreciate the car.
Not to mention, you don't want your luxury SUV breaking down just anywhere in Africa. I'm not driving the Mercedes when it has a chance of not making it back home
Only 600k
You see like 20 LC's every minute you drive in Dubai. Pretty cool how popular they are down there
@@slowgoat6089 it’ll run for a million if maintained properly
@@slowgoat6089 just breaking it in
Some people say if you want to go into a jungle, you drive a Land Rover, if you want to drive out again, you take a Land Cruiser
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah !!!
That's not really fair. 90% of all Land Rovers made are still on the road today. The other 10% made it home.
@@nothingtoseaheardammit that actually made me laugh out loud
@@nothingtoseaheardammit The only Jungle a Land Rover can come out of, is the National Parks with paved roads.
LOL !!
Or a diesel Patrol, it's a shame Nissan never brought them to the USA.
Nothing more luxurious than something that just works.
It’s almost priceless.
couldn't say that any better.
Exactly the reason Apple succeeds even with the price premium it commands.
Well said!!
Very well said
@@Jabid21 These days that argument against Android no longer flies.
People love these trucks because they harken back to a time where products were built to last. The age of tv and appliance repair shops, shoe cobblers and hardware stores - a time where people fixed what they had instead of just replacing it. There will come a time, and perhaps it's already here, where people will long for the agency they and their ancestors once had and will curse the trojan horse of convenience that has eradicated it.
Wow. Beautiful.
Ok boomer
You can either get conspiratorial about greedy companies trying to increase profit margins with a strategy of "planned obsolescence", or you can just look at the fact that environmental regulations have ironically incentivized companies to design products that don't last and are thrown out, and consumers literally can't afford the old "buy once cry once" purchasing strategy even if they wanted to. Everyone lives paycheck to paycheck because their local zoning board is captured by existing property owners who vote for whoever will block development, and because every fruitful career path is fully credentialzed by the government to the point that in some places you can't even cut hair without a license (that was a big part of feudalism, it was just the Monarchy creating laws that restricted the practice of various trades to whoever had political connections, otherwise known as a guild system). But of course nobody pays attention to their local government, everyone worships Washington D.C. like it was the headquarters of the Avengers who were going to come and solve all their problems. Maybe that's why Marvel movies are so popular, they appeal to the childish conception that the only way to change the world is to have some sort of unnatural power that most humans don't have. Washington D.C. has that kind of power, but it turns out its not really much of a force for good. Whether you think the problem is that "your" job has been shipped to to China, or that the problem is we don't tax the rich enough, you're wrong.
Gorgeous comment.
And the average age of cars on the road today is how many years? Modern cars last much longer than yesterday.
Even non Toyota fans know how much of a legend and how amazing this truck is. Will be missed!
If they offered the car for what it was worth and didn't overcharge for a bargain brand (albeit bulletproof) vehicle they would still be selling. I mean there haven't been updates to the design in years how are they still charging almost $100k for this when the R&D has been paid for many times over?
@@anydaynow01 i think they are gonna sell it in other parts of the world
@@anydaynow01 you just described every body on frame truck available
only blind fanboys hate on the land cruiser.
@@attananightshadow its way over priced other than that its solid.
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Jack "so with that" Singapore. FTFY
Incredible 😂
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The only sad part of them discontinuing it is there is now a finite stock of used ones and well, prices aren't exactly going down.
1000% Going to see $50k LC with 100k miles in like 5 years.
@@noahsyndergaard1560 I think pristine essentially undriven examples will hold their value but yeah, once people see what the electric suvs can do it will be a select few who would fork out nearly a $100k for a used Toyota. But then again a used ITR in excellent condition can go for over $50k so who knows what lurks in the mind of a rich fan boy.
Totally agree and heritage edition will hold value even better.
@@anydaynow01 get real, electric SUVs will suck.
Buying this car is basically like investing in Apple in the 90s at this point
More people buying the Land Cruiser now, since It's being discontinued. There 221% increase in sales in January 21' compared to last year.
Big percentages but small actual: 200->600 =400%.
they dont sell these much, so an increase of 1000 per unit can be substantial.
Honestly, there are only select few that looks for these type of vehicle and 90% will never ever go off road.
It’s what finally convinced me to pull the trigger.
We in Australia going to miss our Diesel V8.
@@mhalley5 200%, but yes very valid point!
15 years is like a blink of an eye in a cruiser. My dad still drives his one from 2000 and it is still great.
It's hands down confidence inspiring to the point of feeling indestructible and the longevity of a Roman highway. This will probably outlive many of us .
We bought a 91 LC in 1993 and it still runs and drives like a champ today in the Middle East harsh environment! 29 years later and 450k on the dash still works!!
290,000 miles on my Green imperial jade mica 100 series land cruiser. My parents bought it BRAND new. Never selling it. I LOVE it too much
Great video! Still rocking my 2006 Sequoia 4.7L V8 at 165K miles. The rig is bullet proof and in 10 years of ownership, ZERO issues! When the time comes to upgrade, I'll probably be looking at a Land Cruiser. I also own a 2015 Lexus GS 350...another quality, long-lasting car. You can't go wrong with a Toyota/Lexus.
Well said.
My family has two Land Cruisers, my uncle’s family has two Land Cruisers, best vehicles ever made.
And your whole family is Indiana Jones fans .
How does it feel to be a fanboy?
@@aygwm Feels quite fantastic, we never have to visit the shop!
@@dawnpoint oh really you just run the same fluids and never do maintenance. cool story!
@@scott8238 are you bitter because your nissan product leaves parts behind every time you floor it? Lmao
10 years from now, this Land Cruiser will be worth 4 times more than any Volvo.
It's already worth four times most volvo's lol
@Aquatic Ape that’s a lot of money 💰. Hopefully you will be able keep it for 40 years from now.
I would rather have a Volvo XC90
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I love Doug Demuro, and have for a very long time considered his videos to be the best of the best when it comes to in-depth car reviews. However, and with all due respect to Mr. Demuro - you guys’ videos are just plain better. I absolutely love the style of these videos, and how thorough you are with the details. The shoppe time portion is awesome as well. Thanks for this great product, gents!
Unlike many of todays SUV's...The Landcruiser( and LexusLX ) have serious off roading chops. They are structurally built to handle off road
It can go where no Escalade can go....which is why one of the reasons why it will still be on the road long after vehicles like the Escalade have been junked
The beauty of the Land Cruiser is you can drive it to the hospital to pickup your newborn, and 16 years later you can hand him/her the same keys to go to college.
With proper care the 'newborn' will drive their newborn home from the hospital in it as well.
And you're gonna pay his fuel bill?
I told my kid he can have it when he gets his license ..
My brother had a 1996 Land Cruiser in a beautiful metallic red with a tan leather interior. It was a $52k vehicle then and so it’s always been ridiculously expensive. He leased it and despite my suggestion did not buy out the lease. Everyone loved this vehicle in our family, especially his small children that would comfortably hang out in the 3rd row. In my opinion this version was better looking than this last edition and had the better inline 6 engine. I will always remember this vehicle fondly. For those of us that appreciate an old school solidly built vehicle this is a big loss. Rest In Peace Toyota Land Cruiser, you were always the best in your class!
Out of my price range even with my current trade-in and kidney donation
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@@WhiteLivesMatterPL Nice! That would get you 1.5% of the way to a land cruiser
Sell platelets, maybe sperm.
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Sounds like an automated lecturing device.
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The accent these two have is so thick it’s hard to understand at times.
@@transamericanlife I never would have said that xD I'm absolutely fine listening to them, english not being my first language
@@dudo626 I’m surprised they don’t sound more like @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt, but what do I know dude, I am from California.
The land cruiser is expensive because its parts are all top quality, built with extremely tight tolerances, (e g multiple times more precise than the competition)
Aswell as that, it's built to a higher standard than the rest of the Toyota pineup as well. Even the engine, most of the moving parts are beefier than the ones in the 5.7 tundra.
It’s like my produce guys at the local grocery store telling me how much fruit had changed over the last 50 years.
My '13 is my daily driver. It has 122k miles on the clock. And all Ive ever done with it is basic maintenance. I absolutely LOVE it. Im never selling it.
Update: I now have 158k miles on it. No issues whatsoever. It just keeps going, and I love it for that. Its been my favorite daily driver that Ive ever owned.
These land cruisers will be on the road longer than any of its competitors in this price point
But they’ll be more efficient
Who cares. This is ridiculously overpriced
@@bradleyscarreviews not for long term buyers it’s not
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That is certainly not what the resale value on these says
These have a cult like following
@@ramennoodlz still is overpriced, this bucket has no tech, no advancement and costs 87k. You could buy any used SUV from up to 15years ago and it's the same thing at a fraction of the cost. I'll bet you a chevy V8 lasts longer, and a replacement should it pop is cheap as shit
find another 80-90k vehicle that you could use for 20 years, put over 250k miles on it, and still be worth 10-15k
...on a good day
@Nomen Clature that’s why the value is still strong at 250k miles
@@paulb354 on a good day? Go try and buy a 1999/2000 land cruiser with 200-250k. See how much they are selling for
@@AlCasa52 I meant you'd be lucky to get one for that, not the other way. I meant like a good day for the buyer.
i'd rather buy a much cheaper vehicle and then just invest the difference. but hey, don't let me convince you consumerism is overrated...
I bought mine used and it was 54k. Can’t distinguish the difference between the used one I have and a fresh one. All the same! Getting this off of the pavement and it all makes sense. No rattling and so capable. This thing puts a smile on my face with every drive and has for the past 3 years. On top of that, there’s something to be said about driving a unique vehicle that will one day be a collectible. It also inspires me to keep it clean.
I take delivery on my 2021 Land Cruiser Heritage Edition next week. They only made the LCHE for 2020 and 2021 but they only made my color (Magnetic Grey Metallic) and Classic Silver for 2021...and they also only offered the optional third row in the LCHE for 2021. Given they are only making a small fraction of the small # of LCHEs in my color, and even less with a third row in my color, it should hold value very well. I'm excited to take delivery!
Congratulations!
@@AyAy008 Thank you!
You buy a land cruiser for $80k because if you change your oils regularly it will run perfectly well for at least 20 years with no major issue.
This wasn't just a review, it was a philosophical discussion on the future of automotive transportation.
LandCruisers sell like crazy here in Australia just down to their reputation, even with how expensive they are, they're absolutely everywhere
In the country roads you basically only see Land Cruisers and Hiluxes. I'm surprised how many people own them given the price but it does make sense.
How expensive is petrol or diesel in Australia?
More in Saudi Arabia
And Nissan Patrols
@@aqwplayer222 It doesn't make sense to me because usually ruggedness and simplicity is cheaper. I guess the resulting reliability should raise the price but it never has with cars, the opposite in fact.
Honest to goodness review. Doesn't get any better than this. Good job Savagegeese👌👏👍
Here in Finland there are exactly 199 Land Cruisers for sale right now. Of those, 154 are over 100k miles. 107 are over 200k miles. 40 are over 310k miles (500 000 kilometers). 16 examples are over 400k miles. And lastly one for sale is over 500k miles (807 000 kilometers). I personally know a man who bought a Land Cruiser new in the 80's, he still has it, it has 1,3 million kilometers on it (812k Miles), he still drives it, and it has the original engine and transmission (straight six diesel with manual).
I only own a beater 97 Camry and this thing just won't die. It makes me understand why the Land Cruiser is ridiculously expensive. Even 30 year old ones!
The best SUV ever in my opinion! Period. A legendary maschine with unsurpassed quality and reputation. Buy one if you can afford it before they are gone.
Greatest car ever. I'm so sad to see it go. I'll buy a 200 series in a couple of years. SO GLAD my brother bought one recently. He'll be able to sell it for more than he bought it in 5 years.
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"You're buying this to keep for 10-15 years" - I've kept my SKODA for more than that...
A Land Cruiser is literally a vehicle you can keep your whole life! 30 to 40 years if you take care of it.
I subscribed so hard that I got the Land Cruiser to break down for once.
Hardest subscription ever.
Don't lie, you couldn't break it
You had a wet dream :))
I'd rather eat a handful of honeybees than miss an episode of savage geese.
Hahahahahahahahaha !
This video is attracting top class comedians 😂
So did you miss or?
Eat wasps, bees don’t deserve anymore losses
@@Floppinpimp
He made fun of savage geese and honey bees , as rhyming . LOL
@@Floppinpimp lol
As an owner of two 80 Series I would absolutely buy one of these if I had the money.
Every second retired oldie in Australia has these towing a fat caravan around. But we don't get the petrol 5.7, only the 4.5lt twin turbo diesel V8 mated to a 6 speed auto.
I guess still reliable even with twin turbo diesel ?
Hopefully we get that next
@@khalilkenouche2063 of course, and it gets like 12-14 l/100km in the city (~20-22MPG)
Toyota are selling like 1000+ of these a month in Aus, its nuts. Boomers love them.
Americans are missing this economical diesel v8
What I hate about this car: it lasts a life time that it won't give you a chance to change
Great review fellas! I currently own a 2017 TRD PRO Tundra. I love these vehicles for the Mechanical aspect , not necessarily it’s high tech interior. 5yrs with my truck & no mechanical issues what’s so ever, my buddies bought Chevys , Ford & Dodge truck & 3 yrs in all of them have had some issue including check engine lights.
Said it before and I’ll say it again; is not an expensive car, it’s a long term relationship.
Spread the cost over twenty years and the price isn't that outrageous. Just don't be silly and use this as a commuter vehicle. Save it for hauling the family, hauling stuff, and taking trips, especially to places lesser vehicles can't easily go.
@@markmiller3279 you said it. You expressed what i intended to say
The problem is - you did'nt say that. Multiple other turds have used the same comment over and over.
My 91’ puts a smile on my face every day. It’s great. Slow, drinks like a fish, and terrible road manners. But genuinely a great vehicle. It has a certain level of charm that nothing else can compare to
Not long ago Toyota Australia said the V8 diesel was being axed so all the remaining V8 diesels sold out in no time at basically full price. The upcoming 300 series Landcruiser is still coming to markets such as Australia and I look forward to it as I trust Toyota and believe the future non-V8's will still be ultra capable and ultra reliable. Fingers crossed the interiors retain as many physical buttons.
Hopefully, Toyota decides to make a simple turbo engine. Low pressure turbo engines are reliable, they just cost more to maintain.
All depends on the details of course.
My old man bought one of those with 380 000km on board, the thing felt and drove like new! Amazing vehicle!!!
Finally a car reviewer who totally understands this vehicle. Great video as always. Buy one while you can everyone.
I used to sell Toyota’s and I totally agree the land cruiser is not a lease vehicle all the customer I’ve encountered who purchase land cruiser are ones who previous have owned them. And these customers typically don’t cross shop. They tell stories of their vehicle and they do purchase them to keep them. Soo true
I own a 2019 LC200 and wouldn’t give it up for anything. My dealer actually contacted me a couple of months ago wanting to buy it and offered me almost what I paid for it. Not a chance! Sad to see them go☹️
Same here I bought a 2019 new and it’s at around 18k miles new. I paid $76k new and trade in is $74k now lol.
@@tylerwest3820 wow, would love to know how you got it at that price! Good job👍
@@tylerwest3820 how did you get it that cheap?
@@ChrisWalksFast dealers around me we’re not moving them fast in 2019 they gave me 10k off msrp. Only had 4miles on it when I purchased.
@@bluecruiser2019 in 2019 dealers around me were not moving them fast. They gave me 10k off msrp. Only had 4miles was sitting in there showroom. They told me they only sold one maybe 2 a year. I believe they though they were gonna get stuck with it or do a dealer trade.
I'm a kid who lived in the middle east and I can tell you the people over there love this car
you should win an award for the quality of your video production ... every element is perfect. This coming from a guy who has been involved with video in one form or another since the mid 80's. Great job, my friend ; )
Goodbye, Land Cruiser. You will be missed dearly.
*for now*
If I won the lottery, Id buy this thing and drive it for the next 30 years
Just make sure you win the lottery twice, to pay for 30 years of 13 MPG
Just buy a used sequoia, they are excellent suvs also and have a v8.
87000 dollars, meanwhile a G Class cost more than 150000 and nobody complained about it. A Land Cruiser is way more reliable
Come to Kenya, this is the defacto "I have more money than you" car... and it will get you everywhere and anywhere
No thanks. I'd rather not come to Kenya.
I was just about to comment about how these are driven so hard in Kenya. And they're everywhere!
We are getting the new 300 Series here in NZ and Australia. But the stock of the existing 200 series are already sold out and used a selling more than 30% of the retail value. In Australia, the LC200 sales equalled the total sales of most European brands.
Same in russia and middle east! I still remember father owning 100 VX V8 2005🤩
What did they sell 10,000? Hoo,,,no that would be all the vehicles sold down under in a year.
@@2003evodave just in Australia in 2020 they sold, 15k Landcrusier 200 series. 18k- Landcrusier 150 Prado, and 12k - Landcrusier 80 series pick up.
In contrast, BMW sold 700 x7 model, and 300 x5 suv
Audi sold 200 q7, and Landrover sold 700 discoveries.
The funny thing is, the 300 looks to be a far superior vehicle.
"Has such a tremendously warm resonant frequency" I feel the same way when I can no longer hold back the diarrhea while stuck in traffic and just let it escape, coating my legs and seating - that one minute of warmth which soon turns cold and foul.
Dude wtf 🤣
10/10
This is UA-cam comments gold.
Attempt at humour: 10/10
Actual Success: 1/10
Get help 🤦♂️
“My Heart Will Go On” 😂😂😂
Great review. I bought a 2021 well before Toyota announced they were killing it off. I got a great deal. Now everyone is paying over sticker and they are crazy expensive. I will say it again. This will be the most sought after iconic Land Cruiser ever made. Prices will stay sky high. How can somebody buy a Tahoe or a Yukon or a navigator instead of this monster? I just don’t get it but I understand our American large SUVs do better on comfort and space. Last parting thought. if you are in the market for an SUV and you have the means I would dive right in and get one. There is an X factor that the Land Cruiser has when you look at it in your driveway or your garage it’s a very special car. These are more rare than Ferraris and if you need to drive from the US to Argentina there is only one car that will get you there. And there you have it
True, the Sequoia will get you there too..very solid suv.
Discontinued in the States but not in Asia, I actually owned two LC-200 V8 diesel ... 2009 and 2016. I can say it's bulletproof in terms of reliability and value. I won't trade anything for less... less is more!
You can get the 3rd row in the Heritage for 21' only. Also can get silver or grey in the HE for 21', not just black or white. I know cause I agree with this review 100% and picked up a Silver HE with 3rd row seating to replace my old Tundra and last me until retirement and beyond. Great review as always...these guys "get it"
Never mind Mark just explained about the quality and durability is exactly right actually him and Jack are dead on correct on this vehicle but the Land Cruiser has always been like this I still remember it in the 80s on my dad worked for the forklift division of Toyota, as a kid I open the door and sat in one, and as an adult I just recently did the same thing and you still get the same feeling about the vehicle.
great review! Can you do a video on your XC90 and the issues you've had with it please?
XC90 still one of my top picks, would love for Mark to review his.
He mentioned in the last livestream Jack and himself plan on doing videos on their personal car/daily drivers in the coming weeks discussing their ownership experience and problems
The 5.7 ltr iForce v8 is offered in Africa as well. Pretty much every Land Cruiser in Ghana (where I live) is the 5.7 V8.
My biggest gripe with this rig is that it only has a 25 gallon tank. The Tundra gets a 38 gallon tank with the same drivetrain which is more adequate. For an “overland” vehicle you’d think they would prioritize range more than they do, if you’re off-road with bigger tires, bumpers, and gear, you’re probably only gonna get 250-300 miles in a tank which is pretty sub-par at this point.
We have one LC 5.7 L here in the Middle East, and we do not want anything else: Reliability is amazing, there is no bulls..it gadgets in the cabin. Roads here are straight, so cornering is not a matter of discussion. Air conditioning is more powerful than in any of the competitors, which is important here. Shopping mall, desert, towing, mountains, we do not ask ourselves if it is going to make it, but when we can go again. An iconic machine!
Videos keep pushing boundaries of quality. Superb and impeccable editing.
I totally understand what you are trying to say about this thing, I got a Tacoma and bought it as my one and last pickup. Toyota doesn't do anything extraordinary, they just do everything really well. Reliability has a savings not only in cost but time. And time is so valuable today. Peace of mind not having to deal with stupid sh*t with your car...priceless
The US never got the V8 diesel! Therefore, you never experienced the real LC's real potential! Petrol LC is for the amateurs!
The Land Cruiser is a legend, this is the end of an ERA
Great video! I truly miss the days of a bare-bones, all mechanical, body on frame, affordable SUV. I think if one of these manufactures like Toyota, Honda, GM etc. came out with a small, "old tech", all mechanical, off-road type, small 4x4, at an affordable price, they would go flying off the lot
It sounds like your are describing the FJ from the mid-2000s . With its current sky high resale value people forget FJs were priced as a very affordable alternative to the 4Runner at that time. Too bad the ergonomics were a disaster, the styling was juvenile and sales eventually fizzled out . Toyota has a capable and good looking 2 door Prado in production that could fill the same market space today. If they could be bothered to ship them over with the 4Runner and Lexus GX which are built in the same factory, Toyota would surely have a hit on their hands.
The production quality of the videos of this channel is so high. There are numerous fine touches to the shot angles, the lighting, and the piano music choices. Very enjoyable to watch. Not to mention the top notch technical review contents, which are needless to say.
Beautiful editing on that opening sequence.
I bought one in March 2020! The dealer knocked off $20,000 because the dealer didn’t think they would sell in the peak of COVID.
Comparing a LC to a Volvo XC90 is like comparing the Statue of Liberty in a casino in Las Vegas to the real one in New York. The two are not even in the same ballpark. The LC is a vehicle that, with addition of some better tires, can literally take you anywhere in the world. Your Volvo has trouble getting to the shops and back. Who cares about the driving dynamics and interior comfort if you can't count on the vehicle in any situation? These are large SUVs not weekend sports cars. LC aren't made for driving dynamics; they're made for driving through a war zone, around the globe, to the arctic or antarctic poles. You might never use it, but isn't it reassuring to know it can if you need it to?
So glad I got the 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser before it’s gone
Heard they're selling like crazy since they announced they're discontinuing them.
Smart if you aren’t going to use it. If you are going to use this, spending over $80k for this is a very bad decision
Collectors are buying them all up so they can park it in a garage for 15 years then resell it for 3x the original cost
@@JacesOwnWorld
Well it'll probably hold it's value and potentially appreciate because it's known for lasting longer than the sun. However the usability experience (performance, comfort, tech, fuel economy) will all suffer as a result compared to everything else.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey there are a bunch of cars that “eventually appreciate” but that’s long term and it won’t ever reach the $80k price tag of it being new.
@@JacesOwnWorld
Agreed, though I think this car/truck may be part of the exception. Look at how 4runners, tacomas, tundras hold their value. With big ICE "tank" cars beginning to no longer be sold I expect car/trucks like this to increase in value.
Wish I had this truck right now. One of the worst winter storms ever has hit a week ago in central Germany, we are buried in snow and in negative degrees F right now. Normaly we do not get this kind of weather at all. My cars, Ford Escape and Fiesta, are still stuck in a mountain of ice, been hiking to work three miles for six days now. Watching savagegeese to keep me warm at night!
Toyota did this to themselves. They priced themselves out of the market. The land cruiser has lower trims in world markets. but they essentially gave the denali equivelant trim only to the US then wondered why it didn't sell. This has lower trims that would start as low as sub 60k, if they brought that to the US this would still be alive.
It’ll be back someday.
Toyota offers the Lexus GX and 4Runner and didn't want to cannablize them, but yeah, a decontented LC is what a lot of enthusiasts would've liked to buy.
It's because it would compete with the sequoia too (basically look the same minus the off-road ability), but they should just keep the land cruiser instead.
I think it is due to us laws for imported cars + fuel consumption + Toyota pushing lexus. All this and more, made Toyota decide to not market Lc in the US
@@loki_wolff The sequoia was toyotas biggest mistake, it should have just been the land cruiser throughout all the trims levels, down to the base model, then just let the 4runner cover the price category below. They overfilled their lineup when it wasn't doing too hot to begin with
My wife had a 2007 Yaris 5mt, we bought it used with like 1,500 miles on it in 2007 (back when it was a Toyota and not a rebadged Mazda). Oil changes, air filters, 1 brake job, and the 100k service (although it was still running fine before the service, I just follow the manual), clutch didn't slip even after ~120k miles of use. The AC compressor failed around 118k and the rear wheel speed sensors failed around 120k, so we traded it in towards a new 2017 corolla iM 6mt hatch - which has only seen routine maintenance to date. Meanwhile, I had a 2006 WRX wagon, and although I loved the cargo space, I was always working on it because stuff just failed/broke (endlinks, ball joints, clutch before 100k, radiator, the list goes on). When I got rid of it, I opted for a Lexus IS350 Fsport RWD instead, only a year in to ownership so far, but it's only been routine maintenance, and that's all I expect to have to do while I own it. Toyota/Lexus built a reputation, and are not resting on their laurels.
Mark was talking about his XC90 being in the shop 4 times in the last 8 months. My 98 4Runner still hasn't ever been in the shop 4 times. It makes me wonder if he has ever owned a good Toyota. You know that rig isn't going to break down on your next trip, maintenance costs year in and year out will be negligible and if you want to sell it it will have great resale.
I think old-school Toyota products are for people who don't like to throw their money down the drain when making a big purchase.
On the subject of the engine. The 5.7 V8 is available in most markets outside the US, but it’s optional not standard. This can be equipped with the 4.6 V8, and standard is the 4.0 V6
The 4.0 V6 is the choice for me.
20 years from now this will be the only Suv from 2021 still on the road.
I was in an Older Focus and the stereo just had a cd player and a small led screen for the radio stations. I miss the simplicity of the old stereo systems. The touch screens are great and everything they offer is helpful to people but it was nice to just see a simple radio. Great video.
This is discountinued in the USA only. We should not be worried about it.
The tech and others are more than enough for normal persons that is why they are selling like hot cake in middle east, Africa and Asia. That's why United Nations use this one for their use.
Exactly.
They are also not luxury boxes. The rest of the world that uses these are purpose built and farm vehicles. Just like the Hilux vs Tacoma.
I sold a 2020 BMW X3M for a 2020 Land Cruiser.. just took 2 cross country trips and made it home safely.. most reliable vehicle of all time no doubt
love the land cruiser, wish i can afford one. even the aftermarket it's still close to 80k..
I’ve owned five Land Cruisers, and my current one is a 2012 - I love that they never seem to break. Literally I’ve not had a single problem with any of them. And as for the price, they are a steal when you calculate sales price you pay vs sales price you get when you sell it. I don’t need another one, my currently one has several hundred thousand miles left before I need to switch it, but this video has me considering buying a second one while I still can.
My neighbors 90s landcruiser still runs and has over 350k miles .
v8 pros:
1. makes more power
2. no cylinder deactivation
3. 'fairly reliable'
4. makes good power
wow great analysis i really see why the v8 is essential in this car, thanks
savagegeese: 80k is mind boggling for land cruiser
me in an Asian country getting the land cruiser for 300k: damn what a bargain
@Nomen Clature Yeah, but they live in Illinois. It wasn't intended for the Midwest.
There are 350 million people in the USA and Toyota sold 3500 Land Cruiser.‘s last year. .0001% of the population has this car. It is more rare than a Ferrari. Think about that a Toyota more rare than a Ferrari. Great review guys. This is the greatest vehicle ever built. It’s a hyper capable will last 30 years luxurious and over built. There is nothing on earth like a Land Cruiser.
Would have loved to be able to get one of these. Unfortunately being discontinued, the used market will skyrocket.
My grandma's husband has a 1985 Land Cruiser. That thing was beastly and reliable. he had it and abused it. Drives from SoCal to Nicaragua and back. He sold it in the early 2000's for top dollar. regardless of miles and condition. My aunt (His kid) bought a 2008 Lexus GX. Similar in quality, mechanics, capability and simplicity. I didn't understand the allure of those key features until my older years. I am thankful for these types of vehicles and that we can still hold on to that bit of "motoring."
We are in a weird time. Seeing the transitions of what many of us grew up with (NA Engines, V8s, Manuals, ETC) to the modern approach (Turbos, Direct Injection, Stupid complicated screens and options). I will miss these types of vehicles with all my heart. The Land Cruisers, 370 Z's, Chevy SS's. Heck, Ill treasure my base model Chevy Spark more now.
thank you for making and sharing this video!
“You’re buying this because you love old school Toyota”. Ya I can love old school Toyotas for less than $90K
Despite the high cost the v8 turbo diesel version of these are super common and seen everywhere on the roads in Australia
You guys need to start turning on the fog lights of ALL the cars you review during their beauty shots. Seriously
I was disappointed in your 2017 review of the Land Cruiser.You seemed to harp upon its price and fuel guzzling.Today,I detect a sense of melancholy in your voice as you discuss its demise.I got my driver's license behind the wheel of a stripped down 1956 Buick Special with no power steering or power brakes, but the damn thing always started and ran till an old age.The Land Cruiser is my sentimental replacement for that old Buick,but unlike it,I shall drive this for the rest of my days and hand it down in a couple of generations to someone else that appreciates things that were built to last.I really appreciate your change of heart and the nice things you have to say about what is many of your readers million mile dream vehicle.