How Millenials Ruined Video Games
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As a 33 year old married guy, I envy my wife (34). She has no clue about the culture war or any of it. She’s not on social media. The only UA-cam videos she watches are crochet tutorials and cat videos. She never watches or listens to the news. She’s the happiest person I know.
I believe the quote was “Ignorance is bliss”
Cats do wonders yes.
She goes to the grocery store? Her feet touch grass. My wife is terminally ill, hasn’t left the house in years and just watching a commercial shows how much we have devolved as a species. Easy times breed weak men.
Your wife is a smart person, she will probably be an awesome grandma one day.
@@tonynittoli4792 You should go on a journey to find a cure for your wife strong man 👍🤗
"they collect Funko POPs"
Looks over at my warhammer 40k models
"Yea, im not like that. Thank god"
* looks at my Wishbone plushie collection I had since I was a toddler *
Same.
Funko Pops scream "I want to collect nerdy looking stuff", but without the will to embrace the "degeneracy" of collecting actual figurines, or models.
@@Bearhuggerus Literally the millennials way of thinking compared to everyone else. Safe to look at and unoffensive to those who wish to see. 40K, Gundam, hell even some late 70s - early 90s toys takes those risks of (in the public eye) being nerdy/weird/graphic/geeky/or over the top, like how most identifiable undying media is. Meanwhile funko pops are so bland and featureless, they blend in with any form of background and setting. A literal NPC level of detail; same pose, same eyes, and same level of design.
I own like 4 funko pops, 3 of of them were gifts. I don’t go out of my way to collect them because they just look so low quality and stupid, and overpriced. there are so many better collectibles and figures to buy.
There's a personal touch that you need to glue and paint your boys compared to similar looking Funkopop figures
They aren't Steve Buscemi pretending to be a student, they're wearing a t-shirt with Steve Buscemi pretending to be a student on it and they think it makes them hilarious.
That’s actually a pretty funny image you just spun for me
Underrated.
Omg I was thinking of that whole meme too! I was thinking that, instead of it being obvious satire, they think it's actually cool. I love your reference though, it's so apt! Haha
Perfect. 😂
I would have bought that t-shirt.
All those people who were writing cringey fanfics on live journal and tumblr are now professional writers
It explains a lot
This! Your generation has grown up enough to have full time jobs now, and this is what was prevalent for many years, so that is what their comedy and writing style is mirrored from. I am 40 and mine is based around Dumb and Dumber and that era, movies for many years had that style of comedy. The the generation behind me was the Seth Rogan style, now the next gen is this style. It will always be this way, and people outside of that range and time will hate it.
@@kuidaorekitchen5850Whoever hates on Dumb and Dumber has no soul.
@@ravenburns6600Its not about hating dumb and dumber tho? He's making a point about how due to its popularity, films that came after it followed its tropes and thus becoming oversaturated and cringe
its not a millennial thing tho, this is literally every generation. just wait till gen z are in there 30s-40s . the next gen will blame them too
"Professional"
Pro writing tip: Try getting somebody to act out the dialogue with you. If it's too embarrassing for you to do it, you probably shouldn't ask the actors, either.
Yup. Just say your lines out loud and see if you cringe at it.
Random bro here knows tip top tips, right
I'll keep that in mind.
Tfw you're writing erotica. It's all automatically cringe.
Thank you for the tip man! This would come in handy.
"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering." - Tom Waits
@@Ofjkk ones arrival
“The world is a fine place and worth fighting for”. I agree with the second part.
Seven
There's still music to make life good
@@ramontavaresdacruz2256 what if the music writers get worse too, which I’d argue.
Edit: perhaps worse isn’t the right word, perhaps a better description would be that mainstream music has become more homogenized.
Love it
i'm a millennial and sometimes i do catch myself talking like this, but hearing it parroted back in video games and movies is like nails on chalkboard. it's making me self conscious to the point that i consciously try to change the way i write and speak 😅
That's a good thing! Make that change!
@@heroinmom153says heroin mom 😂
People aren’t self aware anymore, people don’t watch their own content, so they don’t hear themselves on camera.
While I was fresh out of highschool, I would say "like" a lot. It was easy getting in that habit whenever I thought of the next words I would use during conversation. Never realizing that it only made me sound like a valley girl.
It wasn't until an older guy I knew who ran the nearby deli mimicked my speech that I felt embarrassed and thought about my speech. So now all I do is simply pause before coming up with my next words. That is all. I then noticed other young people would speak the same way and I'd get second hand embarrassment along with the reminder of how I was
You need to do better, or just continue being terrible. It's really up to you.
In MGS4 if you kill enough soldiers you make Old Snake get a flash back of Liquid Snake telling him that he enjoys killing, you puke, and lose 25% of your stamina as you get PTSD.
In The Last Of Us 2 you kill a dog and later find out it played fetch and feel sad. Also it's message that "Revenge is Bad" seems to hold no weight as the game made you kill a mountain of people just to let the final boss live.
For TLOU2 is that they FORCE you to kill the dog. You don't kill it because it's the easier way, the other option being harder/longer blablabla...no they make you kill the dog and then go "Look at what you did!" later. Didn't feel guilty as the devs were the killers.
MGS 1-4 in every had peak story telling. Comparing it to anything else really is unfair
This is called ludonarrative dissonance for anyone curious.
You didn't kill a mountain of people in TLOU2. Ellie did. You may control her through her journey, but she is not a player avatar, she is a character in her own right with her own personality, likes, dislikes, goals and emotions. The game is you following HER journey, not yours, that tells HER story, not yours.
@@waraidako Maybe the director shoul stay in Hollywood then and never come back.
One of my pet peeves in modern day story telling is the obsession with ruining a good scene with a joke. The moment is gone and i'm disappointed
No way, bro. Imagine how much cooler the Elden Ring intro would be if the narrator bumped the mic, or paused to go get his hot pocket from the microwave and burned himself, or hit a bong at the start and coughed sporadically throughout the narration. That would be so relatable.
Modern Star Wars does this 24/7 and I hate it, Imagine if instead of Luke screaming "no! its not true!" to Vader claiming to be his father, C3P0 just butted into the scene with a cheesy one liner.
All of Marvel movies.
Action shonen animes lol
@@whiskeysour1179 This actually worked with other games like The Bard's Tale. But that was a fantasy parody game. It was doing it on purpose and that gave the game it's tone.
But this modern writers saw stuff like that and thought it is unique and quirky.
My favorite joke in borderlands 3 is simply reading “coolant” and “heatant” on the pipes in the main ship. That made me laugh more than any joke in the game.
I wish I had noticed this so I could have had a laugh as well. I played through once because the level of cringe almost tanked the experience entirely. As some who purchased the first 2 on multiple platforms I find it insane that I can't even bring myself to play again, even if just to try out the other classes.
@@JB-md7db I completely understand lol the dialogue is butt most of the time but it’s just so fun to play imo, the gunplay feels GREAT. I think you should try it again! I picked Zane the first time but Moze is super fun with her mech.
This was my favorite joke too!
Kind of related, but the one and only thing I truly enjoyed/laughed at during the movie Sausage Party was all the creative made-up products on the shelves in the background of every scene .
@@Danbotology sometimes that’s all it takes man lol
I think everyone is dancing around the fact that the problem is because writers are not hired based on talent, but rather, because they tick the right boxes for a high DEI score.
Baldur's gate (Game of the Year) has a ton of diversity in their characters. DEI has nothing to do with it.
@@hellojams except we're not talking about diversity of characters here. He's talking about a focus on the 'diversity' of the writers rather than the QUALITY of the writers. You're comparing apples to oranges my friend.
Recent example, the new director of star wars is a great journalist, she made a ton of documentaries and directed two episodes of Ms. Marvel, that's it, that's the curriculum for directing a fantasy movie from one of the biggest franchise ever
bad writing has fuck all to do with DEI
@@jamesbowman639
If you don’t hire the right people based on talent but on looks, yeah. It does.
As a millennial (34) I think social media is the main culprit. People become addicted to social media and so start thinking like this. On the other hand, because of social media, people who are thinking like this get elevated and heard more and look like more of a majority than they really are. There's obviously a lot more to the problem than that, I just think that's a central part of what makes the problem get worse and worse.
It doesn't even look like a millennial wrote it, it feels like corporations trying to pander to "millennials".
@@KevinoftheCosmos true they hired millenials to write for millenials and cringe genz
@@KevinoftheCosmos no it's not. Get out.
yeah and i feel the same thing about the first two games, they're objects of that time, if you go in those games without the nostalgia glasses you gonna cringe as hard as you cringe in Borderlands 3, they just told the people to write the same type of dialogs, and this doesn't work anymore
@@justanidiotmk2749 it is... A lot of the people working on saints row (and handling their Twitter, look it up) are in their early 20s... It's 2023... So what does that make them?? Lol sad how you need to be talked to like a 5 yr old
@@master-dukecuthbert5061 well are they hired by a company? Simple as that lol sad how it's so hard for you to understand a joke.
Our obsession with coolness is killing our ability to communicate with each other because we're always thinking about ways to talk to each other instead of just talking. Which is exactly how they designed it to be through television. People before television just were themselves and so to our standards would seem corny
The reason is, that all the edgy teens didnt grow up.
Teenagers were always edgy and stupid. But now they dont need to grow up. They can still collect Pokemon Cards when they are 35 now.
This generation of new "adults" arent adults. They are children that grew old.
So were the teenagers before, but at least they got a harsh sense of reality, when suddenly they had to care for 3 children and pay a house. Todays teenagers (writers of games) are adults, have jobs in media, and write lazy edgelord stories. They collect pokemon cards, and play Wow classic. No responsibilities, no reason to evolve and grow up.
So the topics they write stories about are edgy and full of stupid millenial and genZ humor.
I'm sorry your "responsibility" sucks so badly that you somehow can't have fun in life and therefore hate those younger than you,@@livinlicious.
This is a really insightful point. My older relatives-- they don't care one bit about sounding "cool". They are corny, but I love them. Maybe I should think more about being like them in that way
His point is Stalbjorn that responsibility is necessary and fun all the time isn't okay that is something that you should take from it. However, is that really fun in life just playing games and collecting pokemon cards? Just because someone doesn't do these things or like to do these things doesn't mean they lack fun in their life and that shit that is considered fun is just absolute dogwater@@Stalbjorn
@@SimioniFeteroSungiJR"They can still collect Pokemon Cards when they are 35 now". I find it ridiculous that they assert that one cannot be an adult with fully-handled responsibilities while maintaining a relatively simple hobby (card collecting).
BL3 Had some of the worst writing I've ever whitnessed. It was so abhorrant that I put the game down and got a refund after the "influencer" scene. So fucked.
I played a few hours of it coop a few years ago with a buddy but didn't pay attention to the dialogue, I wanted to get back to playing it but it seems like its that bad. Sad I wasted $30 on it.
the problem is simple: these writers aren't writing a story, they're filling dead air with shallow content.
That's very poetic. Ironically better written than most dialogue nowadays.
or its edgy garbage of equally no value
Earnestness is a crime!
Yeah I’m stealing this thanks
This isn’t just video games, I had this vibe from riverdale😂 boomer made characters lmao
The thing about the pop culture references, is that I remember when they were just Easter eggs. Now they’re 50% of the dialogue in the game
They used to.
It’s like having Easter every single day, non-stop, eggs being filled everywhere you look, it’s been said on a children’s book I forgot the name of, where the moral was, “If you have Christmas everyday, then it becomes less special, and just becomes another day”
Game writers now be taking inspiration from Gex
This is so annoying to me, makes me happy to see true Easter eggs nowadays like the titanic reference room in Jedi Survivor
I think it is just what happened to spoof movies. If you watch Airplane and Scary Movie, it is filled with pop culture references, but they were all used as a joke or to make fun of what they were referencing.
But if you watch the later spoof movies, before the genre died, such as Disaster Movie. The joke is the reference, like no reference ever adds anything to the story or even is written as a joke or parody. It is all just, remember this?
I think the same thing happened, they wrote a quirky and quick-witted character that made pop culture references and people liked it. And then, other media started doing the same. Copying the same character, just every single time they did, they made the character less interesting and shallower. Now, it is everywhere, these shallow characters that they all just want to act cool and make pop culture references. But there is nothing to the reference, nor the character. Writers are just lazy and think that just making a pop culture reference is enough, for people to like their characters.
It's like the reverse of Big Bang Theory. Uncool people writing "cool" characters in games while "cool" people write the nerd dialogue in big bang, with neither grasping the other's culture
We need the writers of the I.T. Crowd to write games
I think the worst I've seen was in one the marvel movies where the writers inserted the screaming goats meme into the movie to pull the viking ship, and I was sitting in the theater wondering how the producer and director even allowed this to make it into the movie, let alone worked on at all. I should've walked out and got a refund, it was downright anoying.
Well, Thor having two goats to pull his vehicle is one of the few things Marvel Thor actually took from the original Viking sagas. Seriously, look up Tanngnjost and Tanngrisner and see for yourself.
@@blondbraid7986but where they screaming goats?
@@razor6827 Yes, they were screaming goats in Norse Mythology. It's a real legit thing.
@@razor6827 Yes. They were. That's what's so tragic lol
The problem is the writers' only writing experience is making comments on gaming subreddits, which is why all of the dialogue sounds like throwaway jokes made for karma.
That and a ton of writers just haven't gone through the hardships others have, they don't have that RAW emotion that comes with suffering
@@TheLarryDungeon because we live in a time with the least amount of suffering
@@dream6562 The world is like one insult from war
@@TheLarryDungeon nah well be in civil war before that can happen
@@dream6562 Not too far off lmao
I feel like the main issue is they are trying to use the sense of humor of middle and high school kids but they fail to take in to account that middle and high school kids sense of humor is moronic and phases out of style in a matter of weeks
Perfectly stated.
Makes no sense either. Why wouldn't you just use a relevant humor? Even if it's not what the kids are doing and it's actually funny to adults. You'd at least appeal to some ppl.
@Marcus Vincent I think a big part of it is also the same reason other reboots or sequels to comedic media recently have had this same issue, that being that the writers saw people talking about how funny the humor of the previous entries were, saw that there were a lot of puns, references, sarcasm, and witicisms, and decided without looking into it any further or thinking any more about it that that must be all there is to the success of those entries and so that's the extent of the humor they use.
@@DolusVulpes and don't forget CEOs want to try to appeal to the LCD but still try to cheapen the budget.
That and half us are anywhere from 25 to 45 in terms of at least half the gaming population and we have grown out of those stages yet the makers of the franchises and games we like haven't seemed to evolve in terms of humor.
Watching kids make fun of 35 yr olds knowing full well when they hit that age still saying "soy boy" "let em cook"
and making better games than the idiots before them. Learning from mistakes is what prevents them. There's a cycle and we're slowly leaving the dumbass phase.
They have no clue how lucky they are not to grow up with the cringe
Everything has a source. The people writing these crazy scripts grew up in the 2000s watching the shows that popularized this goofy language. Like Kim Possible and Totally Spies. They weren't the cool kids. It isn't the cool kids who go on to write scripts. The cool kids end up in business admin, politics, law, sales, ect.. Places where your command of language equals money.
These are the people who are so afraid you'll miss their joke, that they tell it over and over again.
So playing their games feels like that uncomfortable conversation you can't leave, because the other person won't stop talking.
I feel like they do this because there is no laugh track after each punchline like in tvseries, so they cant train people.
Great way to put it
Perfectly said
Omg I work with a guy like this lol
To be fair, repetition CAN work in comedy, but it takes a skilled writer to do it.
People who say "do/be better" would probably try to sue you for emotional harassment if they were told the same
Those kind of people were never told to git gud.
they wouldnt survive an x-box lobby, the only way they survive twitter as is is by blocking people they dont like
Sued by kratos
@@A-wy5zm Many also mistake the fact that change aint looking for friends. The wheel of progress will fuck anybody over. Hence the complaining.
@@Vincrand
The competitive guys finish as MMA-fighters
The cooperative guys rule the world.
😉
The writers of this game don't think they're "cool," they think they're "quirky." And quirkiness is a thin line to land on.
True, true, and true, but they also think that quirky is beyond cool, so . . .
Quirky is a much better term for it
@@goodbuddy7607 sorry i killed seven people im such a scorpio UWU 😜😜😜😜 😋😫😫😫😫😛😛😛😛!! im such a quirky chungus O M G L M F A O S T D O S! 😎😎😎😎😎😎
but how can i be as quirky as benito mussolini though 😭😭😭😿😿😿😿😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thank you lol, the whole “you’re trying to write cool people but you’re not even cool yourself” bit was throwing me off. Plenty of great writers who make cool characters are often not the epitome of cool themselves and that’s probably what makes it work.
quirky implies they stand out. you can't have a whole generation of quirky.
Late night TV is the same way. I don't mind it that someone wants to express their views with their own creations. What drives me crazy is when those people feeling that urge co-opt something already created and well established. Just create your own!
I mute the dialogue and blast music when i play borderlands games lol
Bad writers + hidden agendas = terrible story
"hidden"
at this point those 2 are synonymous.
Isn’t it kind of weird how they go hand-in-hand. It’s like in order to be this bad you have be an agenda driven writer and it’ll never be good.
More like open agendas😂
Velma is literally the pinnacle of the point being made here. It’s so terrible and so maxed out of this kind of writing that literally EVERYONE, right or left, guy or girl, black or white, whatever, we all agree it’s terrible. It kind of gives me hope. Like we’ve pushed so hard on both sides of everything that we’re all exhausted and just want to chill out.
Well I kind of wonder if some stuff is just bad on purpose for the attention. Apparently Scooby Doo spin offs are released every few years and Velma is the only recent one I know about because my youtube feed is nothing but people ragging on it. Being notoriously bad is probably a lot better than never being heard of. I wonder how many hate watchers these shows get.
@@theodis8134 there IS, however, such thing as bad publicity.
Honestly a lot of the popular examples, to me at least, feel like corps wanting to push a writing style that they *think* younger generations will be with, without understanding like the intricacies of when/why certain kinds of arguments are said. Like it's not that every point or weird argument or twitter slang is just nonsense, but I don't think wheoever is pushing/funding a lot of these shows and media understand the difference
Part of it extends from just trying to appeal to "diverse" audiences. I have no idea what the composition of the writing room looks like, and I will not speculate. However, it very clearly was made to appeal to the people who do the fucking clap emojis while saying "we need a $25 an hour minimum wage, now."
@@SirProdigle *ding ding ding*
The people in these writing rooms, almost certainly, have connections and inroads into them. Relatives that work in the industry, went to the same fraternities/sororities as the people who are related to said people. This isn't inherently bad, and we need to start admitting that we would do the same thing if we could, however when higher ups give these people a directive to appeal to a young, hip demographic, they are at a loss.
They just make Poochie.
Dude borderlands is the perfect example. The writing in borderlands 2 was some of the best. Then 3 made me wish I was Helen Keller all due to the writing. It unforgivable and borderlands was one of my favorite series.
Being Helen Keller couldn’t save you, you’d still have to sit and listen…
@TheBottleneckedGamer you sure we're thinking of the same Hellen Keller?
@@TheBottleneckedGamer I'm pretty sure it would be a great game if you were Helen Keller. Idk how anyone could make you do something you can't physically do.
Also Helen Keller is probably a myth. People say she flew a damn plane 😄
Bl2 is just as bad. last time my friend dragged me through it I had to turn off the voice acting to enjoy it
Borderlands 3 was so cringe that I just stopped playing it. LGBTQ writing.
The gameplay is amazing which makes the writing that much more sad
Imagine if in Manhunt the main guy kept saying “that just happened, erm awkward, capitalism is bad, I need the money for rent” every kill.
Oh no. You just described Deadpool basically lol.
this should be a mod
deadpool did it before it was cringe, it a way that borders on it@@ArcangelZero7
Love the Ryuko Matoi pfp
"DID I JUST KILL HIM? WITH MY FREAKING KNIFE?!"
It's "meta" writing. Everything is a reference to and comment on something else; or, a nod to its own existence, and its place within the genre or subculture.
As a 38 year old that grew up in Detroit, I've had my own health insurance since I was 18 because my parent died when I was 15 and at 18 the hospital as like "sssssssorry.... " and put the medicine back in their pockets when I said "no insurance" lol. Who the hell doesn't become an Adult until 34?! For real though, l wish I didn't have to become an adult at 15-18 years old, but I figured that's just what happens lol
I mean, the obvious answer is "people whose parents don't die when the person 15." So right away you have most people, then a good percentage of those parents support their kids financially wwaayyy later than past generations. For reasons that can be parasocial, but often just simple economic shifts in Western society.
That's why you decided to dress as a female?
I feel like the show Velma is a great example of this, it’s more of people stereotyping younger generations, to appeal to more younger generations, and failing terribly.
@sonic-templeoselma becomes so much more easier to understand when you understand that the "Mystery gang but in high school and with a focus on Velma's story!" is just a mask hinding the true plot of the show: Mindi's self-insert solves crimes while being extremely unlikeable because the writters aren't out of touch with modern culture but out of touch with humanity altogether, apperantly
It's not a genuine prequel to Scooby Doo, it's Mindy's fanfic given big-time budgeting.
Any Scooby show without the titular dog is not one worth watching.
That show is utter trash and should have never been green lit.
"You can't explore a concept of 'oh look how edgy we are' when you know they're never gonna go anywhere near the actual edge they feel that is edgey."
Asmon hit it right on the head with this one.
I miss 2010 Shane Dawson
Indeed, anything that's actually edgy will get you suspended from most internet platforms.
@@totallynotthebio-lizard7631 seek help
@@ForbiddenSlurp there's a difference between edgy and "limited edgy"
@@ForbiddenSlurp Nah, those are zoomers
A very important point that I've read before is that most classic and revered games were made by people who grew up living in the real world and having real experiences, most modern games are made by people who grew up only playing video games and it shows.
That's actually a really good point, never thought of it that way
Well said
I agree completely. Games are an ESCAPE from reality, not an alternate form of being fed the same shit we already experience. I'm all for people making games specifically catered to one group or the other but I don't like when they ruin existing franchises to try being trendy.
The thing about the Halo Infinite community manager is that he made that poll ironically, trying to mock the games audience. This is the type of ironic humour you'd typically see on gamingcirclejerk, and much of it originated from there. The funny part is that the users on there didn't even see the irony and just screenshotted the post, roasting him as if he were serious.
Nice to see you here. I wonder why your comment hasn't gotten more attention yet
@@compatriot852he has no heckin' checkmark to verify this post as peer reviewed and backed by science
@@CivilizedWasteland Thanks for the clarification kind stranger have some reddit gold and some updoots
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I guess the idea that anybody connected to Infinite could actually comprehend irony was, ironically, beyond their comprehension.
What a mindfuck.
The most aggravating part I find in this type of writing is the destruction of old characters. Former relatable or strong characters are either thrown aside or deliberately smeared/degraded to be replaced with the writer's shiny new OC, often resulting in very unsatisfying resolutions for well loved characters and major continuity errors in the plot and setting.
Yeah they dont care about the product. They only care about themselves
@@A-wy5zm because if you're in a team that cares, these people stand out like a sore thumb and ruin the social and collaborative environment.
If your team is full of these types the team wont exist for long and will go through endless restructuring.
There is a balance between the self and the team, but the balance described here is off
@@A-wy5zmthese games only sell because they were preceeded by well written good games, therefore the company has a reputation already and doesnt have to try. Hence triple A games mostly sucking but they still sell
@@chasehitchcock6684Dude is literally the type the entire video is about.
@@spew42im pretty this guys just trying to start shit with people and doesn't have anything to actually add
100% true; I call this Nickelodeon dialogue. Some very rare writers like Joss Whedon are able to make it work in a top tier fashion and end up making it popular ... I mean, the entire pattern was really just blasted through our culture via content like Buffy and Avengers. However, everyone else who tries to ape this style just create disaster writing.
You know they fucked up the writing when they CONSTANTLY give you long ass diatribes from other characters via holo call that last so long you almost always reach the entrance into the next zone before they finish so you're left standing in front of a door as if you give a shit or just in case you need to pay attention to the one piece of important info in the sea of lawl randumb.
“A colosseum where all these college kids try to kill each other and if you kill someone you get your loans forgiven”
That’s a weird way to describe college football
Yeah thats just the NCAA or ROTC (in a very roundabout way with many steps in between)
Your giving them too much credit. How millenial of you.
"Out-of-touch" -- these are people with jobs writing video games that live in the wealthiest areas of the country and surround themselves with only like-minded people. It's beyond out-of-touch, they're not living on the same planet.
@@A-wy5zm then come to LATAM
@@A-wy5zm you really seem defensive when someone challenges your views
@@MalekitGJ how does that challenge their views lol someone else being even less wealthy doesn't make you wealthy. The writers live in the wealthiest areas of the country but barely get paid enough to rent their parents' guest room and buy instant ramen packets from the gas station. Not exactly living large
@@k--music yet they have access to highband internet & eat at least 3 times a day everyday.
Suuuuuuuuuuuure, whatever flies your boat
@@MalekitGJ you eat at all? Try being someone’s pet iguana they literally have to rely on an owner for food smh
I think the broke collage student thing could work, if it was actually used in the story/gameplay. Using money problems and living conditions to force the characters to do things. I think having a day night system and force the players to do as much as they can in a day in order to make money and continue the story. In addition, if you do well, reward the player with ways to move up in life and succeed both in their lives and their alterior objecives. or if you're cruel. Force them to sacrifice elements of their life for a good ending in the other.
ngl that sound like a really good idea for a casual management game
That's just real life bro 😂
@@leto_atreusII which part lol
I love Almondgold for his ability to react to every video like it is a first-world problem, like nothing except this matters. Then he switches to another video and repeats the cycle
Kind of what makes him famous I guess
I don't know how you're getting that impression. If someone complains about something, does that mean they think it's the worst thing in the world?
So his ability to take something he enjoys/interested in seriously?
Ok, is there an end to this point?
Whats the point of this comment?
'It's like - the world needs their approval' - legendary line of commentary
I’d say borderlands 2 was a favorite and trying to play 3 was so hard and cringe with the villains I was enjoyed the side quest over the main story
As if they are the main characters of movies or something. They think the world revolves around them.
@@thisisfyne how so?
It’s funny to me. The line “be better” is so much stronger in GOW where we have a man trying to better himself from a past that was quite vile. In most games, the line just comes off as obnoxious.
Social media and it's consequences have been a disaster for the woman race.
In GOW being told to be better feels like someone wants the best for your well being, while at the same time its a line with a lot of depth and meaning to the main protagonists...
In Borderlands being told to be better feels like your boss trying to make you feel like shit because he will not have a bonus paycheck at the end of the year because of your bad performance...
That's because in GOW your character is actually trying better himself, while in vast majority of other games and media it's just "be better how i want you to be because you have to have the same morality as i do and agree 100% with my twisted worldview based on fake feelings baked into me by manipulative social media clout chasers and teachers"
Its also a joke in gow, since the combat is way simpler, its just stats.
@@rRekko cringe dude
Someone having a 'favorite frozen frogurt stand' is generally one of those things that just make you stay away...
This discussion could very easily reflect the state of movies today as well, Disney & Marvel being prime examples.
My brother in law works at pawn shop, and all he used to do was collect funkopops because he thought their value would go up and them being "collectors" items made them valuable. To the point he has an app on his phone that keeps track of the market/resell value. I took me like 5 minutes to talk him into buying gold and gold jewelry woth his money instead. All i basically said was "why would you trade paper money for plastic that deteriorates when you can trade your paper money for tangable gold currency at 20% store discount". The next time i saw him he had big gold watch on, a gold chain and some gold rings 😂 all he does is buy jewellery now. The funko pop thing is a disease man 😂
I played Borderlands 3 with friends. We enjoyed the gameplay. We even enjoyed some of the story and comedy. We hated the main villains and Ava. All three felt like Creator's Pets. They gave the villains what felt like forced wins that didn't feel earned. We all hated Ava from moment one, but then her actions got Maya, a character we all liked, killed. This is followed by a scene where Ava yells at Lilith and one of my friends just started shooting her in the face telling her to shut up. And what's weird is the game acts like Ava grew, but we never saw it. Suddenly people start acting like she grew as a person and fighter. Did they cut some content? Cause she was still the annoying brat that managed to get one of the most powerful people in the universe killed by being dumb.
I'll be real that was kind of the point of the twins. We weren't supposed to hate them because they were just doing bad things but hate the portrayal of their character as well. So if you hated them and cringed at the stereotypical millennial behavior then good. Ava though....there was no hope for that.
If you've seen the deleted scenes they had some legit story elements where Ava did grow. Why they didn't include it idk, but I don't blame the writers here because they had a script in mind. It just sucks the publishers don't care if the game can't be done on time
Not to mention that the writers missed a huge opportunity to make Troy a much better character of having him kill Tyrene and taking her powers for himself. Would’ve been a really cool addition to the story.
Ava though, yeah no hope there
Most of the gameplay was nearly identical to the earlier Borderlands games. And, yeah, the writers were definitely sniffing their own farts when it came to Ava and the streamer twin villains. Some much of the writing was awful. Killing off Maya was terrible - it felt like they were following a checklist to kill off a character from the previous game like what happened to Roland, without any of his death's heroism or emotional payoff.
Ava was genuinely unlikable, and honestly she never got less so.
Too much forced grrrll power, wannabe handsome jack endless irrelevant monologues
and not enough corporate dystopia and pandora psycho gags which was the appeal and humor of the originals
The Joss Wedon quote "make it dark, make it grim, then for the love of God tell a joke" reminds me of a much better way of looking at it and quote from one of the Expendable movies. "We keep it light until it's time to get dark. Then we get pitch black." The serious moments hit way harder when you keep it light up until those moments. Doing it the other way around just undercuts the serious moments.
Yeah, it's really awkward how Millennial writers speak in Joss's voice and write like him.
Arguably this is what made many of the early Marvel'verse enjoyable. It was fun/funny for most part but took serious moments seriously, maybe a possible quip from some character do it was more in their nature (and sometimes in bad times its best to still retain a degree of sense of humor).
yeah it's called contrast
So many millennial writers seem to take that Joss Whedon quote and run like it’s gospel without realizing that Joss Whedon was actually a talented director who knew how to manage the tone of a film.
Buffy and Angel were both masterpieces but Joss really did mass murder all Western entertainment for like 3 generations
36:03 I feel like it really comes from tumblr not twitter. Though I guess since a bunch of tumblr users migrated to twitter after the porn bans. Its basically interchangeable since its probably the same people.
Got to love Gen Xers blaming millennial for their fellow Gen Xers being shit.
"If i see someone collects a lot of anime figures, i assume he likes a lot of anime, if i see someone who collects a lot of funko pops, i assume his wife is sleeping with someone else" - Some random guy on the Internet
😂😂
If I see someone collects a lot of anime figures, I assume he has dakimakura waifu instead of real wife
@@kormannn1 fair, but consider the following: touch grass
@@mauriceanderson5413 Often times the best jokes are a reflection of reality.
Wheres the lie?
The point about Nerds today being linked to consumption is so true.
I've been into Warhammer 40k for over 20 years now, everyone has loved sharing pictures of models they've made themselves or painted, but in recent years there's a subset of 40k fans who buy a huge amount of models and post pictures of the boxes, not having even assembled the models they just post the unopened boxes, it's utterly insufferable
What’s so bad about them keeping how they assemble and paint their models so secret? I’m new to painting and assembling minis, and I understand why new people wouldn’t want to post them online.
I don't post anything to any social whatsoever, so I'm playing devil's advocate, but I'd rather die than post my assembled minis because they fuckin' suck, lmao.
@@randomidoit9605 it's about shift from doing hobby aka painting and assembling to being proud of being a consumer, just buying more and more
@@randomidoit9605because they just buy them and don't use them. They don't even assemble them. Boxes just lay there for years
@@Beef3Dman Ace Combat will always have a place in my heart ✊👍🤝
13:45 I have a game that I love playing that doesn't require you putting it on mute, but it's essential that you skip the overwhelming majority of the cut scenes (or, just all of them, probably safer that way,) or else it completely ruins the fun.
That would be Dirge of Cerberus. The Final Fantasy VII spin-off game where you go around as Vincent in a 3rd person shooter. It was an absolutely AWEFUL game for the story and the cut scenes were atrocious, but as a 3PS with RPG mechanics, it was actually pretty solid and had some very good level design and mechanics.
Kojima is the only person allowed to shove his worldview into his games.
I can’t imagine being worried about racism in the world of Borderlands
I’d be more worried about being eaten by some random dude
I’m watching us millennials turn into boomers in real time, talking about spoiled kids we can’t relate with etc etc. It’s wild
I think its just a section of millenials that were always going to have a problem when people moved on from paying attention to them on social bubbles. As the man said, 'people who already have a high opinion of their opinion'. They're loud and vulnerable.
the video should be called how shitty youtubers and twitch streamer ruined gaming
@@swilson5320 Dude for real I'm getting super tired of culture war bullshit and people whining about their first world problems in like hour long video essays and on twitter about representation in their videos games and the writing not being deep enough. Like holy shit do you actually have so few problems this is what you sink your time into talking about?
I'm still refusing to become boomer
@@taylrthegreat Yeah man it takes concentrated effort to not slip and fall into a lot of boomery. That's where your brain naturally wants to go and you have to take time out of your day to make a point of pulling yourself out of certain mental swamps that just happen as you get used to "how things should be". You start accepting the status quo and resenting the next generation for pointing out things you didn't get right or figure out.
The young are there to make change in society and push the status quo forward the old are there to guide and help them achieve the better future we're too jaded to be able to see. I feel like millenials as a generation are getting to that stage in life where you realize you make a big switch to giving wisdom instead of receiving it which is a weird precipice to be at. I just hope we're kinder to the generation after us than the one before us was to us
Where is the link for the original video?
The Saints in the reboot are the kind of people the original Saints would have robbed and killed.
A good example of the contrast between these writing styles is the Rings of Power vs Tolkien's story of Numenor.
In the Rings of Power, Numenor doesn't like Elves (and don't want them to move to their island) because they work too hard and they are going to take Numenorean jobs; a very 21st century, American, and boring political message that isn't explored further than that.
In Tolkien's writings, Numenor comes to be jealous of the immortality of Elves. They are corrupted from within by an imprisoned Sauron, who convinced the dying king that they could find immortality by attacking the undying lands (essentially heaven). This is a universal and timeless story about man's mortality, fear of death, and his ability to be corrupted; as well as his immense strength and bravery, considering that they previously defeated Sauron multiple times at the height of his power and took him prisoner.
@@mikuhuntu4xbot228 Boring in comparison to the timeless Tolkien narrative. It’s also so on the nose as to be offensive to the audience’s intellect.
exactly. the scale in modern day writing is too small. They need to tackle greater parts of the human experience that transcend time and don't become dated within a year. Like existential questions. Everything Everywhere all at once is a great example that milenials can tackle these greater subjects in a new millennial style without it feeling cringe, condescending, or on the nose. They just need to get off of twitter and look to things outside of themselves.
@@yum8666 I just watched that recently and loved it. It’s the weirdest movie I’ve ever seen, but I really liked the core message. I took it as an antidote to nihilism, and probably social media (seeing everything, from everywhere, all the time) but choosing to be present with the people around you. So, it was both hyper relevant to today, while exploring something timeless and human.
@@yum8666 So basically like ontological questions that are timeless instead of things that are more of a trend.
@@mikuhuntu4xbot228boring political message because Elves are inmortal meaning their work is almost like a "god like creation" MEANING people from Numenor and humans can never buy nothing from them because the price
Like literally is the stupid concept Ever the Witcher books about racism and etnic cleaning IS literally better than what writers of RINGS pull off
Willow, the new fantasy TV series, had this exact problem. "Hey you! So we're getting married tomorrow. weird huh?" Thank you, uncompelling "strong" female character for your brilliant modern twitter dialogue in a medieval fantasy setting.
@@ha-kh7ef The movie is a timeless classic that still appeals to young and old alike, and so people were expecting a show just as good, not the cringefest they got.
Does she have the haircut?
Ah, Willow. I will forever remember the time that medieval fantasy TV show had a character utter the phrase, "Hey, new girl, where you at?" Riveting.
@@ha-kh7ef Don't you ever say an unkind word about Willow.
I... suppose that is true. I kind of half liked it though, it wasn't all bad.
The whole thing about nerds becoming a market demographic where they were formerly a niche group I think applies to germaphobes after the pandemic. I've always been extremely careful about germs but the difference is I know how they work and the limits of sanitizers.
They don´t feel out of touch. They never were IN touch to begin with.
Some things I've identified as Millennial writing:
-Self referential
-Excessively self aware
-Irony over the situation
-Constant and active observation of external forces being emphasized in each conversation
Your pfp suggests you have great taste in video games
Self aware? I don't think they are even that self aware at all. I think it's not being self aware but more self absorbent for oneself
Complete lack of self awareness, and lack of awareness in general aspects.
Don’t forget zero meaningful consequences and pop culture references and member berries.
You need to add in an unwillingness to tolerate 'tropes', except for their self-insert personality quirks which are totally not tropes to themselves. A perpetual revolution against characters and Ideas that aren't theirs.
I am 36. A lot of millenials hate this too, but most stopped caring. I don't have the time anymore to care. And i won't waste energy to care. I simply ignore it nowadays.
It annoys me that we get bundled in with gen z. Anyone younger than 27 isn't a millennial.
I'm in this camp
It's why I only play games from the 90s to 2010s now
@@babelfishdude this shit was never funny in any generation
You got time
Damn, I didn’t realize how bad Borderlands 3 got since I quit in the first couple hours after finding out there was no DLC characters coming. I did not like any of the characters in the game and did not like hearing how some of the previous characters got assassinated essentially.
Glad I’m not the only one who didn’t like the characters. Idk what it was but non of them clicked with me like other BL games.
The oldest Milleials are going to be around 40 now... and some of them trying to copy stuff from gen z... but others going back to stuff that made their childhood awesome and archiving really good things with it.... like you can see in the new RoboCop game... i was 6 when this movie came out and loved it through my childhood and seeing now made a game that holds up that good fan service in the best meaning is just awesome again to see.
The worst part about badly written, shoehorned in social/political issues in games/media is that it almost always hurts whatever group you're trying to represent. Of course to avoid this, you have to be a good writer, which these people are not
bad writing comes from people trying to capitalize on a societal trend they don't personally have a deep understanding of. Actual progressives would write with more nuance.
@lberghaus Except they don't, I don't know what rock you've been hiding under the last decade or so lol. It's all garbage, even the better stuff is excruciatingly mediocre.
@@Let_The_Foolish_Take_The_Lead I remember earnestly asking someone for a really good progressive figure to draw inspiration from and people were saying that if you pick a black man don't pick a colonized uncle Tom go with someone like Franz Fanon.
When I tried to read him he opened up with a quote by Karl Marx, a white man.
@@off6848 That checks out lol
@@metalhead6526it's even slowly creeping its way into anime and manga as well.
in my opinion, the difference between politics in older games, and politics in newer gamer is that in newer games, they portray the message that their trying to convey as only having one solution; theirs. In older games, they understood that there was no single answer, and often times no RIGHT answer; and left it for the player to decide what was right in accordance to their own moral compass.
My favorite part of fallout new vegas is that there’s no “good” ending and all 4 factions can be debated on being the best one
A good game has no politics. Because politics don't matter. Fastfoward 3000 years and nothing political mattered. What does matter is the human soul and the histiry forged from it. The essence of what we are never changes. Good storied are ones we can all relate to and understand as humans. Not because its pushing an agenda but because we are all human and we can all share the feeling of pain, anguish, joy, love and sorrow.
A good story connects with you on a human level, not a political one
Kotors story was somewhat all about this!
Older games' politics were timeless "political" topics. e.g. positives and negatives of an authoritarian regime. Older games asked the player a question.
Newer games just insert whatever political topic is hot at the time and try to prescribe a right answer.
Tactics Ogre is a good example. In one situation one player's choice lead to a small town getting slaughtered while a creepy music plays. It is a solution but a controversial one
I'm a 34 year old and it really doesn't take much to write a cool character: don't tell me, or use words, to make me think someone is "cool." Create a situation involving sincere, genuine people worth caring about, or a place, or an idea, or anything worth preserving. Create an antagonist or force that wants to destroy or inhibit the good thing. Then the only thing a cool character needs to be cool is to be selfless, sincere, give a damn, or care about something intensely, without WHINING about it. Make them have some competence but don't make them invincible or flawless. Show me this cool character doing something sincerely that might even be uncool. Show me someone that can take a joke at their own expense and yet the very next scene, maybe they're practicing something, exercising, trying to do the things that are going to help him achieve his goal. And if you really want me to think a character is cool, let them learn a hard lesson and actually apply the lesson they learned like an adult. Show me someone work hard to achieve their goals while others oppose or seemingly have it easier by compare. Show me someone doing the right thing even when it's harder and less convenient than the morally gray or evil thing. Show me someone who never once complains, or admonishes themselves for being weak before they become strong. And NEVER let your character give a speech- just show me by their actions what they believe.
Remember in the 90s where we had cringing animal mascots with sunglasses, skateboards, and backwards/ sideways baseball caps? This is the modern version of that.
That was my zeitgeist back in the day, when I was a teenager. I kinda miss that to be honest.
It was never cringe though, it was radical af
It was mega-cringe.
“Imagine them listening to this while surrounded by funko pops”
Hahaha a whole industry filled with the people that The Nerd Crew is making fun of
my rule of thumb for character writing: get the character as a person down pat, how they talk, act, their personality traits and background. after you get that done, then you weave thematic elements into the character. this really helps me avoid making caricatures/authorial mouthpieces when i'm writing a story.
make them a person that can actually exist first, a narrative tool second.
I feel like you can always tell when writers think of a narrative tool and then create a character around that narrative tool because everything about the character seems forced. I personally struggled with this in my first couple of scripts and stories, until I finally started to essentially do what you do.
I always create the setting first, motivations second, and then from those two things, the characters personalities, and lastly thematic elements. Just like real life, we are who we are because of the circumstances we grew up in, which shaped are beliefs, values, biases, and motivations which in turn led to our personalities.
@@budthecyborg4575 not necessarily just acting, character in a narrative that are written well have a fundemental belief system and behavioral set. in my favorite game, pathologic 2, every notable character has something to gain and their own belief systems to push, and it makes the game compelling as a narrative.
@@MajinRixch hey that’s how I generally write too. *Most* characters end up appearing in my stories as a result of the setting and not really the plot, but I feel like that’s partly because I just enjoy world building a lot.
Imagine that... develop the character and then that character should respond genuinely in response to the world and conflict around them.
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I wish more writers understood this EXTREMELY SIMPLE concept. There are poorly written characters, and then even worse imo, there are characters that break their persona to insert some kind of narrative from the writer. It's so obvious to anyone paying remote attention, and I instantly lose any type of connection/understanding I might have made with the character.
yeah, we aren't born with complicated world views. Same way goes for making a believable character. Obviously you'll still have an idea or a purpose for the character existing in the first place , which could be, say, that they're an anti-capitalist.
There's a very serious case of millenials and zoomers not being able to move on from childhood. I don't just mean that they are mentally children still, i mean that there's something in these people's childhoods that they are unhappy with. Maybe they aren't happy with their childhood social group. Maybe they feel like they weren't as talented as they should've been. Maybe it's something else. But writing like this feels like the writers trying to overcompensate for something. Writing characters that are so "cool" (can't put enough quotes around that) is just the writers trying to relive their teenage years but this time as the person they wanted to be. It's a pathetic self insert.
i agree with your take on lord of the rings. one of the few scenes i liked that they took out was when treebeard was quoting one plant poem after another and pip and pippin were just SUFFERING. that actually got a laugh out of me
Political and social commentary is like CGI in movies or TV. When it's good, it's barely noticeable, but when it's bad, it's glaringly obvious.
Also, I have a feeling that the reason a lot of these millennial writers get so condescending in their dialogue is because their favorite college professors were condescending and that's who they look up to.
The worst it's when they're selling subpar products that criticize capitalism and society even though they're just another cog on the machine
As a millennial I find it odd because we were taught to be skeptical and to form our own opinions as opposed to blindly following what some guy thinks.
@@ExarchGaming Homie, you're talking about pop-culture/mainstream here. 2ndly, Education is opinion. Idk how long it has been since you been in school, but history is taught in a way that teaches you how to correlate data, interpret them and string together narratives to make sense of things (though, US education does suuck a lot and is statee dependend). What you are seeing now is the inability of people to properly understand the world because they stopped studying new things that aren't related to their interests or job dependent, and those that try to study new stuff often times completely forgot or never understood how to properly study. Like, there is a reason High school teach you only thee easiest form of scientific writing and despite this most still fuck it up beyond comprehension...
If you knew anything about education (which you should since your talking about the problems of studying (not learning, learning and studying mean different things)) than you should inherently understand that knowledge is interpretive, which is why we developed the scientific method to agree on an interpretation collectively. AGREE on AN INTERPRETATION. This is what we call the peer-review process. In order to change your knowledge you need to challenge the academic notions in accordance with scientific approaches.
This is why you have no idea what you are talking about, because you only ever learned the condensed versions of highly complicated subjects to help you understand you own cognitive biases and how to avoid them. Right now, you're just talking about pop-culture. I'd make a metaphor: You are the 21 century internet soccer mom and baseball dads.
Y'all don't know what you are talking about, y'all keep making up dumbass theories and y'all act just as arrogantly in your opinions because your opinions are somehow related to your self-worth or some shit, idk? Like prove someone wrong and they get as mad as if you insulted some dudes favorite football team or some shit.
@@luvhair255 It's always the teacher. It's only over time (over the course of your life) where you begin to challenge the knowledge taught to you by your elders.
All our knowledge is born this way, even yours. We learn from those who came before, then we challenge those who taught us, and then we learn a little bit more about our species in the progress.
@@dydx_ A bit of Kripke wouldn't hurt you.
My biggest issue with gearbox writing is if the characters in the story arent taking the situation seriously, how am i supposed to?
@@A-wy5zm it is more like:
They don't take (in their world) things seriously.
So why care about the written plot? Or why even buy the game?
@@A-wy5zm It's not that the game should be serious in tone it's that the characters in the story should care about what's happening if we're supposed to care too
@@A-wy5zm idk why you’re taking this personally mate, nobody’s saying it’s a bad game but that doesn’t mean the writing can’t be flawed
@@A-wy5zm the first part: seems you didn't even played the previous titles.
Doom part: the problem with your comparison is the focus. In Doom, the gratification is not the story nor any point based system, but the gore is the self-gratification. In BL? The plot.
If the writing sucks, in a plot focused game, then guess what? the game will suck.
At this point just make a new IP and go ballistic with your writing, but they won't do that, why? because they don't have faith in their own writing.
@@A-wy5zmI mean when Roland dies in BL2 it's taken seriously
6:49 the thing about you, Azman and was wanting to be an attorney and the fact that you knew an instrumental, good and inherent value that different most people can’t distinguish they can place it when they said hey this is that difference but they can’t define it on their own
Wishes you from every streamer, but also in every single colloquial video like this, etc.
"It's like it's 2012"
Everything seemed to go to s**t around then, didn't it?
The Mayans moment
No everything went downhill after Harambe
I was a little late, I started noticing around 2015.
The way you phrase this exactly explains why the end of RDR2 where you build the house is so satisfying. "You have a house John." "And so do you, Uncle" there was no snide remark at Uncle for a cheap laugh.
The masculine urge to explore the wilderness and build a home with your drunken self-appointed uncle to win back your wife and kid.
Nah bro they should’ve written “And so do you Uncle. SYKE GOTTEM!” that would’ve been so funny on god fr fr. And when Uncle got kidnapped by the Skinner gang, bro, some many fire joke opportunities and they missed them all. Nah bruh their writing ain’t it fam
Spoiler alert geez😢
"They're not cool, but they're trying to write characters that are cool"
Reminder that Berserk was written by a dude that played Idol Master all day.
That guy was definitely a pedophile
What do you mean ? Berserk is always a shoujo manga. Can't you see the plethora of beautiful girl ?
There's always an exception.
Though, I do have my gripes with Guts, to be honest.
Mainly his enormous hunk of metal of a weapon, but that's not really related to his character itself.
Have you read Gigantomakia from Miura too?... If you haven't, go for it, I won't spoil anything tho.
You do know that that is wrong. It is just a meme in the Berserk Community why his chapters took so long. Truth was that at one point when he took a break he also mentioned he brought the new Idol Master.
I use to think I was cool, then my 13 year old told me I wasn't. She's right, I'm 35, what I think is cool was only maybe cool 15 years ago.
What was the volume mixing extention he uses in this video ?
Remember when playing a video game was a way to escape reality and not have to hear the crap everyone was saying all the time?
@@vrabo3026 Those were the best of times.
Well I mean, that still happens today, plenty of games today let you escape from reality just like older titles.
No, I don't. Most stories, whether they intend to or not ,seek to spread a moral, philosophical or political agenda. Even a simple Mario game spreads a message of helping others and having fun.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355The fact you can't see the difference between a basic moral idea like that, and spreading modern political talking points is why this hobby should've been gatekept harder.
@@vrabo3026 Back before the dark times, before EA normalized Microtransactions in the industry.
"The same people that went to school with Invader Zim backpacks and never grew out of it."
That was pretty savage, ngl.
Thankfully I only had a t-shirt!
Invader Zim was kinda funny ngl, I mean there was an episode where Zim put his nemesis into a lifetime simulation where he accomplished his dreams, only to take him out at the end and hit him with a cupcake as revenge.
Probably did all their shopping at Hot Topic. We called them “dad haters”.
@@OneEyedCloud01 It was a good show. But the people who idolized it where terrible writers.
Holds up spork
Welcome to the generation raised by the Internet. This is the product of people who's communicational skills were developed through social media and forums.
Too many writers can’t write outside of their world view or perspectives.
As Critical drinker said: "The characters are only as smart as people writing them."
Sanderson said that he could write characters more intelligent than him as he makes them able to react and think about the plot details he's creating. As a writer he has the luxury of knowing the future and so can make his characters more or less able to act wisely in respect to the plot.
@@deisophiagaming8216
That makes sense in that particular instance.
The creator begets the creation.
Many of us in the 40 and below, including myself (I’m 41), haven’t really lived all that interesting a life. We have a culture of infantilization. We aren’t given strong archetypes to model ourselves after. Our hormone levels are screwed up.
So many factors result in people who can’t really write authentically interesting characters and stories.
Even a buddy of mine who has his PhD in writing. He’s got this lame left winger perspective. What do you do with that?
@DeadManWalking I think that is happening too. Part of what I'm saying isn't to blame anyone but to be objective. Many of us in the western world have easy lives compared to all people, historically. Now throw in a lack of self awareness or development, indoctrination that happens in college, growing up with the internet and it's vapidness and its lack of space that cultivates authenticity, lack of deep friendships, and you don't have ingredients for good art, let alone writing.
You know he's a grifter right?
The problem with references arises when they don't make sense in universe for the media its in. If a reference confuses someone who doesn't 'know' then its a bad, lazy reference. Usually, but not always, these references are added in for cheap nostalgia or to bring out some emotions to make up for a lazier / worse baseline for the media.
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Like the game Smite. As much as I prefer the gameplay of Smite over League, Riot is still the slightly better company because they're not stupid enough to make Nickelodeon skins from tv shows that were cancelled over 15 years ago. If I wanted to play a game with dead shows, I'd go play some kind of Nickelodeon game they had like once or twice of PS2 or some shit. My generation of gaming is over. Doesn't mean I have to stop gaming. It means that gaming companies need to stop pandering to my generation. It's the era of the Zoomers and Alphas now. Every joke and pop culture reference should be made from THEIR generations, not mine. If I wanted pop culture from the Millennial gen, I'd just play old games. I'm currently running HP and the Chamber of Secrets, and would never want it remade fully. I just wish it was remastered, to be easier to play on new tech. I want the future of HP games to be what Hogwarts Legacy is doing. It's using lore that wasn't used in the original games, books, and movies, and then adding its own spin on it to modernize it more. Old shit should only be INSPIRATION for new. It shouldn't be constantly rebooted and remade over and over again, just copies of its older selves. Because I lived through the cringe of the 2000s, and it was fun! I used to completely say EPIC to everything, as well as YOLO and even SWAG sometimes. But seeing games trying to bring back that humor makes me want to hurl myself off a cliff
I think it is fine if it is used once or twice and for one character only. And only if that character grew up in that time (or is obsessive), to convey how obnoxious or idiotic that character is or to be lighthearted. But when every single character does this it makes me think I am seeing 20-30 of the same person (looking at you Marvel).
The consumers are also the problem too here. While your point is right in terms of the writing in games it also comes down to the actual games released. How many remakes re-releases or reboots of existing games have there been and how many fans of games call or want their favourite olds games to receive that treatment? The writing reflects this because the researchers and executives believe that that nostalgia aspect is important to pander to in many different ways.
@@vietnamesericefarmer2602 I agree but I think it depends on the game as well and how it is treated. For example the Dead Space remake. This remake took a 15 year old title (that I played a lot mind you) and gave it lots of visual and gameplay overhauls and generally made it better than the original. But then you have TLoU Remake that just took the visuals and did nothing else (and wasn’t that old to begin with).
Dr. Jordan Peterson has a podcast on the phenomenon of certain people’s inability to grow up. I will summarize it for you: they missed out on rough-and-tumble play as children. RTP allows children to learn boundaries, negotiate, compromise. Without these things, children go into a state of narcissistic arrested development, but the mind has a need to grow-so they experience a latent psychological puberty.
And some of them, unfortunately, write video games during said puberty.
The writing part is absolutely correct. Even as someone who fundamentally agrees with some of the dialogue it's just so on the fucking nose, so obnoxious and downright ridiculous that it can't be taken seriously. It almost makes me think that's on purpose... to underplay or undermine the real issues at the heart of these topics. And it works. Most people do roll their eyes at some of the important shit largely because it's written like total garbage and I think it does a massive disservice to those topics.
On the other hand, the part where he just injected the "easy mode"/acceptability thing was really hamfisted and unrelated. That kind of felt like he was just trying to inject his own bullshit into the mix. It's not a problem to have difficulty options nor accessibility options. Plenty of games in various (pretty much all at this point) genres and subgenres have successfully had difficulty options and ever increasing accessibility options for well over 2 decades now. It was only with games like Dark Souls that it apparently started to be a "problem" to have these options for people, which again, is about as cringe as the shitty dialogue he's complaining about when a handful of elitists piss and moan about completely optional shit that only adds nuance and options to an experience that you never have to engage with if you don't want to.
Most of these devs and writers probably haven't even experienced the trials and tribulations they are crying about in games. The reason Tolkien's works will be immortalized are because he lived through and participated in the struggles he writes about. Industrialization, the horrors of WW1, etc. All the themes in the stories ring true with the majority of the world population in some way or another.
Well said. Also, absolutely accurate. Love this video, love the original author of that video, I'm grateful for they both
denouncing these abominable realities, which are not less true because they are horrible. BTW: The writing in Hogwarts Legacy is really good, it's just a good game, with excellent voice acting, no matter what haters say.
That is why the writters of the Saints Row reboot failed so hard, they cannot write gangster characters. Rockstar actually had people that were part of this underbelly of society giving them material for inspiration, what does the Saints Row 2022 devs had? A bunch of privileged college kids writting self inserts.
This is why I always encourage Black and Hispanic people to get into gane developing. When the industry is predominantly white and male, the delivery is always going to be corny if it's not about dungeons and dragons.
Are you saying people need to experience horrible things to be able to show them? Thats really going to minimize the available pool of devs and writers.
@@Chris-ks4sw No, I'm just saying its much more effective to write about something you've experienced firsthand, and the themes he expresses in the works can click with just about anyone in the world. It's not a targeted small audience he was appealing to.
There are so many great authors in the world. I wish gaming and television shows would just hire them.
To many are white or not into pushing the victim complex narrative. So they aren't allow on the big stage.
@@AlexanderBC42 nepotism will always be around , the problem is they usually would give them behind the scenes type of jobs not something big like lead writer lol
@@F4c2a Which is made more annoying by the fact that they do this at the expense of the important messages the original writer already wrote into their work XD
They won't hire them unless they fit their LGBTQIASBEODSHE+ Quota.....
I thought that is what happened with Forspoken. Didn't S.E. hire a couple allegedly great authors for the writing? Look how that turned out :)
Final fantasy 7 is a great example of having a message but not using it as the whole game.
It's similar with anime. Millennial anime writing has become "class isn't what it seems! lol, "I'm gonna be the best EVER!" and sprinkle in some fan service. It's boring af. Remember when we had sci-fi dramas with some badass fight scenes, traditional Japan settings and original plotlines?
It's not about collecting Funko Pops. It's about people who define their personality by "being so quirky to collect Funko Pops".
correct. 30:09
They're still way overpriced where I live, so for me it's kinda retarded.
Then again I heard of 12/24 eggs being worth over ten dollars so maybe they aren't that bad
These aren’t Millenials. These are gen z
@@Garl_Vinland Tbh, yeah, in poor countries like mine it is primarily gen z and the tryhards of the millennial generation. Though idk, at first I saw how most were those born in say 95 and 99.
I have a Goku Funko Pop figure. It's not that that by itself is a problem. It's just a red flag.