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I’m a woman that’s been playing Souls games for a decade and it annoys me when people who really don’t actually care make statements about how sexist it is. I feel way more comfortable playing Souls games than tons of other games out there. These games feel safe to me and I have absolutely no issue with any of the female characters.
Agree some games are hypersexualized anime proportions
Super agreed. And I also hate the double standards where it's ok that men suffered but it’s not when it’s a woman instead like the elden ring article.
Same tbh, the "stronk fumale baws go neked" doesn't bug me because it's actually NOT serialized, she's just literally naked which I find her final form really beautiful and something to be admired like art and no doubt the devs had all the intention for this
Same here only this is my first souls game and I've never felt more welcome. I love this community:3
Based woman spotted
"Elden Ring has already lost players" as it currently sits at number 13 most played game on steam rn
right? single player game nearly a year after realease, thats pretty good
you don't understand, it has to be top 1 played to be GOTY /s
And only that most people who have brought the game almost a year ago finished the game half a year ago. What did he expect?
here is whats even more funny, elden rings most playerbase are console players.
I just bought Elden ring for me deck when it was on sale its fun for being my first souls game
Kratos being one dimensional is what people who haven’t played all the games hear but when you actually play it you find out about his emotional side. Even in GOW3 where he’s most set on revenge and killing, he’s still got all those moments with Pandora where he sees her as a surrogate for his own daughter who died.
Even if he's one dimensional that doesn't make him a worse character than one with supposed depth. A character that is one dimensional but that single facet is done well is leagues better than a character with a bunch of bad development.
To make GOW more trendy for the modern audience, Sony chose to avoid nudity. I am normally fine with that, but you know, it's always good to be able to see some high poly tiddies in AAA games (which we sheldom get w/o mods).
I don't find Kratos one dimensional, simple yes. But not one dimensional. He probably is more interesting in the new games, i would not know, but that does not make the old Kratos bad. That's what i think anyway, simple doesn't equal bad. And the story, while again simple was not necessarily bad.
Gow sucks now
In my eyes God of War is a trilogy. I dont care about anything after 3.
Use summons, use magic, do whatever you want to take the boss out, the fun part about a game like this is to explore all the options at your disposal. Then come up with creative solutions to take the boss out.
Yes also in a game with a LOT of possibilities...and if u want challenge do it.''agree mate
ordinarily thats the case, but they designed the enemies around you having summons. thats why theres so little down time between combos, theres meant to be someone else doing damage while they swing at you. it means if you choose not to use them because you didnt buy a AAA game to watch ai fight, you have an actively worse experience because the system exists
This right here, is a based take
Enjoy the story, explore the lands around you, just have fun in your own way. While playing, it will become natural, that true gamer instinct of trying to find new challenges and learning new ways. For those stubborn gamers that want to force anyone on " how the game has to be played " my response is: " With keyboard and mouse ( or a controller ) and a open and focused mindset that doesn't block you from having fun".
@@jynxed66six54 Quite the opposite, really. They didn't balance the summons at all, the game is designed around you NOT having a summon. Hence why most of the game is a cakewalk with a summon.
I love the moment asmon realised that he did the exact thing about calling people pussys for using a summon, it was gold.
@@DekkarJr We are, don't listen to Asmon or the Fromsoft superfanboys
@@ironspaghett or the people saying TloU2 was a good game narrative wise
@@DekkarJrit's considered "the easy way". Which from my understanding, that was intended by the devs (along with other things) as a soft way of changing difficulty. Just like you'll have players of other games doing the same for hard mode bosses, legendary difficulty, getting Big Boss rank, etc.
"the easy way" it's the way fromsoft intended the game to be played. If you wanted to be a wank about not using summons then that's up to you lol
@@456death654 you’re gonna hurt their feelings 😂
I love it when he said "How many people will be playing Elden Ring in a year, probably zero" My brother in christ, the first Dark souls came out 11 years ago and still has a religious fan base.
I got invaded in Anor Londo on fucking ps3, last month.
Dark souls 1, ps3, in 2023. If that doesn't say anything about those games I don't know what does.
Hehe "religious"
People will always find a reason to go back to play fromsoft games,hell jacksepticeye had a bloodborne playthrough around a year ago thinking it wouldn't get that many views and it ended up being on of the most popular series on his channel
Man I'm still playing elden ring today. Shield only build this go round.
Praise the Sun \[T]/
You can capture the exact moment asmo became self aware
Around about 14:20 ish
This comment will be really scary to see in the future under an AI streamer's clip
I love the "I'm an adult, I have a life" defense. Cause I'm an adult, I have a life; and I enjoyed the game so much.
Both things can be true.
The moment Asmon realizes how toxic he’s been by making fun of people who summon is hilarious
Those ppl need made fun of.
@@homelander2243 it's literally in the game. Stop being a *unt homelander
Or it's just a joke?
Hahahahaha
he used to get stressed playing ds2 and quit
Old God of War had feelings too, most people just don't remember. The scene where he has to leave his daughter in the afterlife holds up.
He never said they weren't, just that those were the sole emotions on display the vast majority of the time, making the character single dimensional.
Exactly, Kratos was tricked into killing his own family by a god he SERVED, of curse the mother fucker was angry and blinded by his hate.
Just because the story is simple, dosen't mean that it's bad. That is a very surface level take.
GoW1 - lose family.
GoW2 - lose country.
GoW3 - lose pandora.
and return hope to world. 'My vengeance ends now'
Terrible character btw.
the fact they made that scene a quick time event is so genius
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Do you breathe air too? Because that's pretty mainstream. Usually when something's popular, it means it is good. People don't usually do things they don't like, people played GoW(old and new) because they were good.
I used a summon when I fought Malenia. No shame admitting that. I didn’t want to spend my day learning her every move and trying to execute perfectly. I do think it’s worth trying to fight her solo a couple of times. Just to get the feeling of how challenging she is.
In my opinion Elden Ring is a masterpiece.
My first playthrough I tried using a summon but she just used my summon for heals. I ended up using bloodhound step
@@dragonkunia6798 I miss bloodhound step
@@evet7278i don't, plagued pvp
I remember summoning help from players my first time beating her, and my second time using mimic tear. I do want to try beating her with no help as a greatsword user
@juubi249 The greatsword is very good, especially when you learn what attacks you can stagger her on. I recommend using Lions Claw
From 13:13 to 14:19 aged like fine wine in seconds that had me laughing so hard 😂
That part had me rolling so hard! 🤣
I’m glad he realized it in the moment and didn’t hide it
Watched video when it was released this part was amazing 7 month later watching again and still can't stop laughing.also the part when QTV said noone gonna play the game still playing it proudly
The early God of War games certainly weren't Shakespeare but they have more depth than they are given credit for. Half the reason why Kratos is such a great character in 2018 and Ragnarok because of all his mistakes, trials and tribulations of the past saga. He's pondering and trying to make up for it with his love and growth of his son Atreus. He was always an emotionally deep character, just wasn't always presented in the best way.
I always loved the subtle depth kratos had in the originals. He portrayed humans in their most raw form of anger but also had things that could pull him from that mindset for a few moments. Very very subtle bits of showing the person he really is beneath all the anger and vengeance. I thought it fit him as a character extremely well in the old games.
dude had fucking depression, attempting suicide multiple times, every single thing he did was out of regret for killing his family. And I have bad news for someone who would be upset with Kratos being black homosexual - Wouldn't matter. Spartans did, in fact, were gay as fuck. And Kratos before wearing his family ashes - which is why he is so white- was darker skinned than your usual caucasian, white man. I usually agree with Zac but here he fucked up big time, in my opinion. Yes, there are better characters than Kratos, but come on.
@@miki97xde That made me think of something. When they eventually make the God of War live action show, how is that gonna work?? Let's say hypothetically they get Christopher Judge to play him, which would be great but for story reason they're absolutely gonna have to lather him in white powder cause if they don't, you're not respecting Kratos as a Character. Then it becomes a race issue online on both sides. One saying that making him white is racist and degrades Christopher Judge's skin tone while the other is saying since Christopher Judge is taking a role from a fully competent Greek actor and etc. That's just saying if he or another black man gets the job. Like which crowd do you piss off?? Lmao. I can see it now and I'm already exhausted.
True, but all of that stems from how shitty he was in the past. His blind revenge kick more or less left Greece as a hellscape at the end of 3. While he had moments of other inclinations those don't do much to round out mass deicide.
he already did that, in PSP!!!!
I hate when people say that Young Kratos was boring character, the amount of things his story teaches us is just crazy...
There's a nice comment I found about God of War and it literally describes how I feel about this series:
- I think one of the key things people miss in regards to god of war is in fact... Kratos's story arch(encompassed across all GOW titles).. His story is told over the course of 7 brilliant games.. There is no vindication without suffering, there is no love without turmoil, there is no success without failure. there is no god-hood without first dancing with the devil.
The reason Kratos is as lovable now as he is, is due to every game before God of Wars reboot. The angry, malicious, vindictive and cruel Kratos that we knew was changing in those games as well. These titles are not individual stories. They all encompass Kratos's story.
Kratos's Dynamic character building began in god of war(the original) and every single game that has come and passed, has built his legend and our understanding of him. We grew/grow with Kratos as he grows because most of us can see his worst traits inside of us. I am 26 year old, I played the first god of war as a child, I now understand failure, pain, hurt, betrayal and most importantly BLIND ANGER... The lessons, the heartbreak and the growth this series emulates is a sheer stroke of brilliance. Any "decent" man should play this series, and take a REAL note from the story line of Kratos. Change before it is to late.
In pursuit of redemption, revenge, destruction or pain.... you will always lose. Kratos in his reboot state... is simply teaching us.. it is not to late. We can choose to be better then what we have been or to forever remain in state of suffering. The path of righteousness is a path often walked lonesome. The path of wisdom may not be as exhilarating, but it certainly will maintain your safety and your sanity. You would not have Kratos from 2018 God of war without Kratos from 2005 God of war.
If the original GoW games were ENTIRELY about the story and narrative of the games then it would not have the following that it does and probably wouldn't even have the sequels we have now.
They were and are great games but let's not beat around the bush here.
They are very simplistic games that most people played for the fun of it.
Because who the fuck doesn't like ripping out the eyeballs of Cyclops's and rip someone's head off to have a glorified flashlight lmao.
The story is there but it's not at the forefront.
While it's the absolute opposite for the newer games.
The originals will always exceed in gameplay.
But newer games are just absolute incredible storytelling and narrative.
@@mahchestro9144 "hack and slash game isn't the same as cinematic movie game" you said literally nothing there
@@rockstar-made hack and slash can have great story,
story can even be main focus
what he said was originals were gameplay focused not story focused and story wasn't that good, it just happen to be in good game
@@rockstar-made You can dumb down anything like that if you want and you'll only look more stupid by doing it.
@@3Dyler Yep, pretty much the only formula I find more boring and tired is parent-child survival stories. Done to death in media.
Haha, this is why UA-cam content is great sometimes. The moment at 13:12 when Asmon did EXACTLY what ActMan makes fun of in just a few seconds was friggin hilarious, haha. Asmon even called him a "pussy" and that's what ActMan says players like Asmon would say. Love genuine comedic moments like that
A whole "foot, meet mouth" moment right there
ye best part
Yes it's amazing and hilarious that act been predicted accurately what was great to be said in response to his p**** b*******. It's just like the cheat whole thing they're so funny for predicting accurately the response to their poor writing and quality of their shows. Just like this act man guy who is making fun of a dude for saying he's quitting the game because there's case in it which I wouldn't do what I think that's kind of stupid but Altman makes fun of the guy for focusing on identity politics rather than game quality...with ZERO sense of self awareness or irony of the fact that its the DEVs and game MEDIA that push identity and sexual preference over game play for years. That guy was just reacting to the politics that the DEVs and media have Made front and center issues of gaming, well above quality...the ironic condition Is INDEED delicious...just not in the way you seem to imply .. cheers
@@munstrumridcully take your meds.
@@munstrumridcully You forgot to take your normal pills today
Imagine saying Kratos, the guy that starts out by attempting to end his own life so that his suffering and endless torment would finally cease, the guy that accidentally slaughtered his own family and has their ashes glued to his skin, the guy that in the first game in a nightmare sequence you protect your family from deformed versions of himself and heals them by hugging his wife and kid and it ends with Ares taking the blades and murdering them regardless as he cries "No not again" , the guy that went to Elysium to see his daughter but had to abandon her again or else the world would end.
Are we really talking about the guy that saw his mother die and went to save his brother from Thanatos and it ends with his brother dying aswell and him contemplating what he's become as the grave digger replies "Death" and he then was gonna cast himself again but stopped.
Are we talking about the same guy that after finding pandora he didnt want to sacrifice her cause she reminded him of his daughter?
The same guy that after killing Zeus the last of the pantheon he turned his blade against himself and tried to again kill himself to finally be rid of his memories.
Kratos is by no definition at all the good guy, but to say he had no depth and is one dimensional is absolutely insane.
It’s kinda weird that the Malenia article author even chose Malenia to focus on in the first place - you would think someone like this would take much more issue with a character like Renalla for example, as she literally just sits about being sad about Radagon lol
Yea this makes it clear that they were just trying to stir shit up to get clicks and therefore chose the female character with the biggest name in Elden Ring.
I kind of doubt the person who wrote the article even knows who rennala is
It's basically choosing the most prominent name, they didnt Even touched the Game for sure, it's basically the princess peach bs all over
@@naiiin6949 Don't be too hard on them, soldier of godrick is a pretty nasty boss, no wonder they couldn't get to rennala
Keep in mind that not EVERY CHARACTER, male or female, has to display monumental fortitude, strength, discipline, etc. There have always been plenty of weak losers of all sexes in positions of power throughout history and around the world.
I mean if you were sent to destroy a random village, accidentally slaughtered your own family in the fog of battle, and then had their ashes bound to your skin to give you a constant reminder for the rest of your life, maybe you'd be one dimensionally angry for most of the game too. Kratos in original GOW games also showed his love and regret for his family through a few great parts of the games. The rest of the time was spent getting revenge in the most brutal way possible.. I can dig it
That kratos was also heavily Spartan. Ready for war anytime he woke up
Gow Ragnarok his leviathan ax can turn into a Therapist couch in which him and his enemy can get those feels out... Id take OG kratos over what he turned into
Sure but he also killed all of Greece in the proses massacred Poseidons wife for no reason and brutalized Hera after the first game he was no longer justified
He didn't kill his own family. Where the hell did you get that from?
@@janetmontalvo6944kratos destroyed all of Greece due to his rage and getting his revenge on the gods and he killed hades wife not Poseidons( he did use Poseidon’s daughter to hold open a door which killed her but he didn’t himself do it) and kratos murdered hera because she trash talked pandora (who kratos sees as her daughter in GOW3)
'The community reacts harshly towards female characters'
maybe in FromSoft games as a lot of the female bosses are among the hardest in the given title. Lady Maria (Bloodborne), Sister Friede (Dark Souls 3), and Malenia (Elden Ring) are all human (or close to) sized enemies that hit like a truck and have such aggressive styles that generally force you to change play styles and epic scores accompanying them that they are also among the most memorable and, for me, favorite bosses in the series.
By the logic of the idiots shitting on ED, shouldn't the fight against Sword Saint Isshin qualify as "abusing the elderly?"
Or "people react negatively to MALE characters" because a lot of bosses pound your face into the gravel, sometimes quite literally (Godfrey the first elden gigachad).
Their arguments don't even hold up to their own logic.
I'm a commercial fisherman with 5 kids. I beat Elden ring in 4 weeks, I didn't have to ignore my family and hardcore this game in a hole. That quantum guy just needs to get good son.
still an absolute tragedy how youtube treated act man and did nothing to punish quantum.
Sadly, because YT sided with him, he seems to think that means the whole community is on his side, and it's just some trolls that don't like him. He's genuinely pathetic. Idk what YT was thinking, especially with all his homophobic and just terrible takes. The only thing I can think of is that they sided with him because the color of his skin and YT didn't wanna somehow seem "racist" or something.
@@gamerhex7335 I doubt they did it because they were worried about seeming “racist” but still that could be it. I think it was probably the make that act man has already got a number of strikes on UA-cam.
@@taylorkd1587 I think they're just lazy and choose the laziest approach, regardless of the consequences. Just like that one youtube channel pretent as a multi million dollar company started false copyright claims videos and youtube literally did nothing until that very company took action at its own hands.
Cause quantum is black and all blacks are saints according to leftism.
Nope. Act man is a reactionary loser. He deserved it and quantum doesnt deserve the smidge of attention he got from this either. Two idiots arguing online is so unimportant i literally dont care if quantum called the dudes mom or any of the shit he said, you can find worse shit in any comment section (check the act mans channel and tell me there's not a reactionary right wing bias there, tons of racism, sexism etc)
“Now he has feelings.” It is called character development, and having to raise a child certainly could change someone.
Edit: I am NOT saying he did not have feelings in the original games or did not have a child before. I am going with the belief the person in the video said about Kratos’ feelings. Like where their logic is wrong, if their belief is true. A hypothetical situation.
This wasn't his first child that he raised
@@Tyanus2 If you mean way in the past, yeah. Which was never really shown in the games. Then he went to war against the gods and was like super angry and stuff. No reason to show him having feelings during the first few games, when he was pretty much only focused on fighting. The more recent ones, it shows his interactions with his son and him raising him….so that obviously shows him having feelings and stuff.
@@Tyanus2 Well yeah. He lost a child due to his own flaws and failings, and now he's mortified at the thought of fucking it up a second time with his second child. Don't see the issue here.
More like character degeneration.
not to mention the lead designer (dont remember correctly what role he has) had a son of his own and tried to use that inspiration for the father-son relationship in the games. And it shows, they did an incredible job. Watching this Kratos, his character arch and how much he has changed due to his life experience and his role as a second chance at a son is so interesting and well executed.
Quantum: the game is already losing traction and players...
ActMan: well if you would stop telling people to kill themselves...
SAVAGE AF
The way he smiled when he said cynthia and the way he imidiately stopped smiling when he said profesor Oak had me dead💀💀
"I am an adult with responsibilities, and do not have the time".
Bruh, I had new born baby boy twins. I just slept about 4 hours a day and the game took me half an year to complete.
But I did finish it.
Kinda unrelated, but congrats on your twins! Wish you and your family well!
I sure hope everyone here knows that Jennifer Lawrence was the 1st female action star.
So stunning and brave, am I right? 👏👏👏
ikr. How bold and brave of her to finally change up the filming industry like that,truly a hero
More like Jane Russel in "The Paleface".
@@warnalmstek5448 /whoosh
wait i don't get it
As someone who is completely new to souls games, I played through Elden Ring 3 times on 3 different runs and found new shit each time,
I didn't even know Rykard was a boss in my first play through, I wasn't about to join Volcano Manor and left them alone after stealing the wheel weapon.
About half way through play through 2 I did a deep dive into the wiki to find out some stuff I clearly missed.
Kind of funny but I think I managed to cheese Mohg in my first run, he was about to do his blood sky stab neheel attack and then I think I frostbite proc'd him and he staggered out of it.
He never grew his wings and we ended the battle in his base form.
My man actually played a should game without a guide, that's very based
Asmon has grown a lot as a person, I feel like the old Asmongold would not have taken the "no summons" callout without trying to punch back.
Kratos has glimpses of what remains of his Humanity in the pre 2018 games. Heck, in the first game, the circle button was used for executions the whole game except for that one instance where, in the Battle at the Center of the Mind, you use it to hug his family. To protect them from berserker versions of himself. That's a perfect marrying of story and gameplay mechanics and that was from 2005!
The "new" Kratos has this now in reverse. His Humanity is now in full display, and you see glimpses of the anger that drove him in the earlier installments. What was once a raging storm is now calm, peaceful day where the winds can suddenly shift in bursts whenever the situation demands it. Less out and out hatred and wrath, more like Tranquil Fury.
@@wykydytron God damn, this is the most smooth brain take I've ever seen.
Kratos was actually much deeper than people give him credit for in the original trilogy, there's even a pretty good video about this very subject on UA-cam. Difference is that the story took a backseat in these games and people just didn't pay attention, unlike now when gow games are treated pretty much like movies.
Ngl when he started talking about character depth and "people liked him because he was cool when they were young but he isn't really that good of a character" I was hoping someone would mention Sephiroth from FF7 to make it spicy, he was a very shallow character.
He was always 3 dimensional. He's more developed now, that is true, but he always had dimension to him. I haven't played the new games yet, I'm getting a PS5 soon, but the old games got me emotional a few times. The one coming to mind now is when you have to leave Calliope to go back to the real world in Ascension. You literally have to push your daughter that you love with all your heart off of you to save her. Hopefully he brings Calliope up in the new games. I know he tells his son he killed his father, but does he bring up Calliope?
@@Bonesawisready926 very good example. My favorite example is the relationship he develops with pandora, to the point that he was willing to give up his vengeance because it would sacrifice her.
Exactly. Kratos wasn't always just, "angry man who hated the gods." He was a person with very few friends and those he considered friends and family were used against him by the very gods. In GoW1 (Trilogy), there are moments where he even tried to save the Oracle before she was killed, and his voice was purely out of concern because he needed information.
@@YoshiTheOreo I remember in GoW 2 when he accidentally killed (?) one of his Sparta soldier and they died in his hand. Bruh, the speech from the soldier makes me want to cry. :,(
Well... If Quantum wanted an easy mode on Elden Ring, he should have waited a year after the game's initial release, which was more than enough time for several players and content creators to discover methods for fighting bosses, farming runes, creating builds, literal game exploits, and routes that bypass the need to go through the first boss. As a new player of the game and those similar to it, I can honestly say that I've had it pretty good thanks to the efforts of those who came before me.
21:05 "a lot of the people attacking were socially awkward weirdos"
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
The first God of War opens up with Kratos trying to kill himself because killing Ares brings him no peace from his regrets. And one of the end showdowns is Kratos in a nightmare realm where he has to defend his family from them along with using the action button to sacrifice his health so they recover. The animation for sacrificing his health.. is Kratos hugging him while under attack. The second God of War even after obtaining godhood it does nothing to ease his suffering, all he feels is emptiness as he sits on his throne. When he reunites with his brother Deimos is he lets his brother kick the shit out of him because he feels guilt for abandoning him, even if he thought he was dead. He feels genuine happiness when Deimos forgives him and fights by his side and has family to connect with once again. This game ends with Kratos somberly carrying Deimos's body to his grave and him contemplating suicide once again.
The original God of War's were about Kratos losing the little bit of humanity he had until all that was left was a rabid monster full of anger and self loathing.
That is all true.
But you have to understand that it is literally like... 1% of all of those games.
I'm not gonna regurgitate smth that i've already said in this comment section but to water it down...
The story is there... but it's not the forefront of those games.
It's not what matters when you play them.
It's a fun hack & slash adventure and that's all it needs to be.
I didn't sit down, rip off Helios's head and think to myself... "That attempted suicide scene in the beginning tho".
Fuck no... my blood was pumping, adrenaline rising and ready to kick more ass.
That's what those games were about.
@@mahchestro9144 Then the entire first game is 1% of the franchise? Even Chains of Olympus and Ascension, the weakest stories in the series, had humanizing moments for Kratos and his character still is a tragic greek story, y'all just forgot it because he got more violent and cruel in GoW 2 onwards
I’m very bad at gaming. And to be honest if not for UA-cam tutorials I might never finish elden ring. But I so fucking enjoyed it. So refreshing to actually play, not just watching 30 minutes cut scene and 2 minutes of actually playing like others do. I’m happy it won game of the year.
Actually, if you beat Elden Ring, even with using tutorials, you are definitely not bad at gaming! If more people would have such patience and interest, we wouldn't need such UA-camr trench wars. Good work with beating the game and great you gave it a try! 👍
@@jacksoncabrera7236 That's a good attitude! Everybody has a different playstyle and if it involves using tutorials and feels right for the player, I see no issue in that. It can even help to keep the interest in a game and in the end the player needs to implement the tutorial lessons themself. So beating the game in the end is still something to be proud of.
@@hectichive889 I can absolutely understand this way of handling things too. Story driven games are certainly more enjoyable when you can just fully sink into the story without breaking the immersion. Tutorials can still be a help in gameplay-heavy segments or to learn the mechanics. But I get your point, of course. In a huge game like Elden Ring tutorials can help to find interesting things, learn certain mechanics or overcome difficult bosses and the story itself is differently presented anyways. It's always a matter of how tutorials are utilised in the end.
If you beat elden ring you are already better than like 90% of gamers so I wouldn’t concern yourself too much.
13:25 Im not sure if using summons even makes the fight easier. Imagine all that healing he gets by hitting the summon.
14:24 That moment when Asmon realize that he burned himself
The Milenia chest beating moment was pure gold. 🤣🤣🤣
Kratos being terrible was kind if the point of tge first game (which I'll argue had a pretty damn good story) the fact that he never learned, only got angrier and killed people actively trying to help him in later games is where I 100% agree, Dad of Boy is honestly continuing his character arc from the first game
Love the JSE reference here
“Kratos was a terrible character and he was one dimensional”
I didn’t know Asmon was a game journalist.
It's not that hard to implement an easy difficult, but it's just a thing of "Why would we waste a few hours doing this when we could spend those few hours laughing at you and enjoying ourselves?"
@@Drak976’m fine with them in story focused games but I also appreciate skill check difficulty games.
Okay Asmon sorry but Kratos isn't a one dimensional character in the first games. He may have an inclination to making one dimensional decisions but he is undoubtedly a character with depth. Your probably asking what depth? Remember Kratos at a young age was torn away from his family to go through spartan training. He had to deal with this and the best way he could cope with this was by being really close with his brother Deimos. Deimos was then taken from him who he swore to protect, this lead to a great character change in Kratos. With Deimos whom he thought was as good as dead Kratos took on a war path. This could be perceived as him being one dimensional but what else is he supposed to do. Kratos is also a good Husband, unlike most of the type of anger driven and ambitious tyrants most become. Kratos has never been shown to put his hands on his women or child. Its the little details and paying proper attention that will show you that Kratos is a character full of depth and complication. ( I would have just commented with just watch the video of the God of war games for the Greek Pantheon. But then you may have dismissed me and treat me like all the other idiots who disagree without any properly written out reason.)
Bro have literally skipped all cutscenes or something. WTF
@@Piromysl359 seems like someone hasn’t played the games or forgot you can’t skip cutscenes. Super simple premise, man loses everything and wants revenge plot. It’s not deep and it doesn’t need to be for it to be good. It’s all explained pretty quickly and is only used to push the game narrative. It’s not like games back then couldn’t have more story but that wasn’t the point of the original trilogy. It’s supposed to be fun and feel like a god of war, the fact that it managed to make people feel like it has more depth than it does is more telling of the writers capabilities
I disagree
@@alvingarcia6701 I mean if you would actually paid attention to those cutscenes, then you'll notice that revenge is only an end goal and the story is about a man who graduately loses his humanity and becomes more and more mortally gray as a result of constant abuse and numerous betrayals at the hand of Gods. If you really think that the story is only about revenge and nothing else, then you are objectively wrong.
@@Piromysl359 it literally is all about revenge. The first game is revenge against the GoW that tricked him and the following games is about Kratos getting revenge on Zeus. Of course it’s more complicated than that but again hardly any depth and plot is super simple. In his attempt to get revenge he does things he wouldn’t have before but like you really think that’s deep? He didn’t become morally gray, he became morally corrupted willing to do anything to achieve his goal, which was revenge. He didn’t seek to do any “good” so he’s not morally gray
Ya know Asmon you're absolutely right - you should have to beat the game before you review. In fact, I think all games reviewers, in order to have their reviews published, should upload a livestream of how they played the game alongside their review. We have the technology. We just don't have games journalists with any integrity.
I say reviewers not need to finish the game or good at playing it, but have to give honest description on what they did. Like "First Impression" or "I play this game for two hours, here's what I thought" type of review.
Then again, the journalist have to get a good reputation and popularity before making those types of review
Nope you can still review it but only up to the point where you played it.
@@r3dr4te963 exactly. They need to be transparent and back up their experiences. I would classify a "review" as different from a "first impression", on the basis of how comprehensive each are.
Good point actually, you need to rate something on your full experience of it, the first review guy obviously got stuck at soldier of god Rick.
@@Mr.Plankton. wait, people can beat Soldier of God, Rick?
for anyone who doesnt know, kratos seems one dimensional from the outside but if you play the games you realize how much tragedy and sorrow is hidden behind his anger. he constantly shows hopelessness, rage and sorrow throughout the games. to claim he is one dimensional is to miss the forest for the trees. example: at the end of chains of olympus, atlas says to kratos "the olympians will betray you, you will never have what you want. can you really trust the promises of a god?" to which kratos replies "its all that i have atlas, its all i have." this is just one example from several moments in each game.
2:58 obviously he was paying attention to “kill kill kill” and not “but why tho?”.
'old Kratos is bad character'
bruh, half of new story is tell story about old Kratos LOL.
which again kinda validates his point- lol it was very one lined before. Hes not wrong lol or why would they need to recap the old Kratos for half the story lol.. Logic .
@@guyterrifico8293What is that logic? What is his valid point? He talked about old Kratos. but that's recap thing you talked is about 'new Kratos'.
That's seperate topic.
I talked about 'is old Kratos bad and new Kratos good?'.
Logic.... here most of new GoW story is about Kratos try to teach his son not to repeat like his action.
then i ask this.
If old Kratos is bad character then why new which recap about old kratos is good?.
Do you think BOY carry GoW2018? no shit... It's impact of Kratos old self represent in new GoW.
Logic.
@@MeldinX2 Hey I'm not saying new game are worse or anything. of cause it's better in term of story there are much and more interaction. but to say old Kratos are bad character is a little bit ???? cause in new game most of great moment is about new Kratos teach his son by use old Kratos experience.
@@justaman381 They are. They literally pointed out the obvious that he was narrow-minded, lacked any character, and was devoid of any depth. He had one thought; kill.
@@DC-hw7fw that's just incorrect, clearly he was suffering and being haunted by visions of his family's murder by his hands, even in gow1 in the ares boss fight you need to use the execution button to hug your family and sacrifice your hp to heal them
DMC 1 and 2 Dante was kinda one dimensional moreso in 2 but if Asmon is referring to 3 then BRUUUUH.
DMC 1 Dante ain't even one dimensional either. 2 on the other hand. Hooooo boy.
wdym DMC 2 It doesn't exist :)
Dmc 1 dante was a non serious character a badass who was obviously similar to characters like ash william from evil dead so he didn’t take shit seriously he was a wisecracking demon killing machine and he got more dimension as a character over the years specially dmc 3 where his character really gets to shine
Dante filled his dark soul with LIIIIGGHHHHTTTTT!!!
Let's pretend DMC2 is not canon
i like how when ActMan mentions Cynthia, Asmongold smile, but the moment Oak is shown he just goes O_O
Sekiro should have a easy mode!
Also Sekiro mods: You can auto parry. Just turn on the mod, then you auto parry everything.
Being one denominational doesn't make the character bad, it just relies on the story and atmosphere around the character to advance things. Which GoW did very well in the first three installments
did you mean dimensional?
They forget how insane GoW3 is when it release, It is first generation games of PS3.
Lol man said denominational
This is absolutely right: sometimes you want to play games to be the doc savage/superman/mary sue/whatever. Games are the perfect medium for a power fantasy story. In some ways, one-dimensional and "blank slate" protagonists enhance the experience (like with zelda, pokemon, etc.)
He’s just killing all the gods to make this true…
kratos started off one dimensional, but over his journey through the main trilogy and chains of olympus a lot of context was given to his character and you really started not only understanding his motivations but sympathizing with what he was trying to accomplish. I think kratos has plent of non one dimensional moments in god of war three and that game was the start of my love for his true character not 2018. Although 2018 and ragnarok both added a ton to his character I really think there was already a lot there from the previous games.
yeah,I mean you expect the series to start with such an advanced and well developed character? of course at the start they are gonna be bland and one dimensional,that is usually how story telling and progression works lmao. Even games like Asura's wrath and even metal gear solid had a very one dimensional start to the main character,that slowly evolved through the game
I mean the first scene we see of him is commuting suicide… So you’re closer then Asmon?
not exactly, the first cutscene of the first game has already pretty much gave him a pretty deep depth
you don't see him being angry when he wants to k!ll himself, do you?
@@Yoruharu That does add to his character but the point I was making was that throughout the games a lot is added to his character and that by the end of the trilogy there is a lot there. You are right about that first moment contextualizing his character but I think more than that is needed to fully understand him hence everything else that unfolds throughout the game.
Elden Ring was my first entry into souls games and while difficult at first I stuck with it and enjoyed it immensely. It's on my list as one of the best games I've ever played.
Same here...kinda frustrated sometimes but beautifull and Epic all the time...
I was laughing so hard when you made fun of him for using summons because I knew what was coming. Your reaction to playing into the stereotype was hilarious. Amazing content all round.
I love how quantam is talking about Elden not being New player friendly
and its the first Soul game for me an I killed Margit in 10-15 tries
tbh its one of the easiest soulgame out there to me
I love that if a boss is too hard for you, you can just go somewhere else and still have fun. Then come back later once you've completed your training arc XD
This behaviour is even encouraged when you have to run from the big ass knight in the beginning of the game! Pretty pog
souls games are fairly easy for the most part. difficulty is just one of those things people like to overrate about them because alot of them try to rush head first into everything when most souls games are designed to punish you for doing just that.
@@AndresLionheart in every souls game you can go to a new area instead of farming up till the 50-60% mark and at that point your probably invested in it so you don't care to grind. (Elden ring just moved it up to about 80%-90%)
Like raise your hand if you killed the abyss watchers and wolnir before ever going to the deacons.
The 4 kings before O&S or iron golem is probably the best example if abit backwords.
Gotta remember that one of the main reasons Kratos was angry was the death of his family. So it does make sense that now that he has another one, he softened up and had some character growth
Also the reason he became so fixated on the destruction of Olympus. Because the gods were responsible for the death of his family, making him lose himself in this path of destruction. I don't see how that's bad or boring writing, especially when the gods were corrupted and kept mocking him and his dead family. Most people that have played the early god of war games loved it not just for the game, but for understanding the character.
Asmon doesn't acknowledge this.
Graphics in game looks amazing. Almost feels like you could reach out and touch the armor your character is wearing.
Im so happy that I had a friend who was a soulsgame fan who wasn't a asshole about it. We played Dark Souls 3 together when it came out and everytime I struggled he was like "come on! Lets try it again!" And if I became to frustrated he understood if I wanted to take a break. That positive and informative experience has made me a soulsgame fan. And im sad that so many were not so welcoming.
But QuantumTV can stay mad
Asmongold got owned @ 14:20 in the video . Actman got his ass good lmao 🤣🤣
Caught him lacking 😂😂😂
Thank you for mentionning "recency bias". That concept is even more of an issue with anime as almost no one mentions classic anime; just the more recent shiny graphical extravanga that ends up forgotten the next year.
Deltora Quest for the win.
Everyone still talks about one peice, DBZ and naruto.
Cowboy bebop,clannad, BIG O don't get talked about a lot but still pop up every once in awhile, basically anything that got on og toonami is still revelant.
100% agree. It was very evident with Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan. They’re great anime but every time something new and hyped drops people announce it as the best thing of all time lol
@@NixLotus it's just not the dame for almost all media products? Specially series, movies and videogames
@@coryyoung7544 those are some of the most famous anime of all time, they only get talked about today because of that most things that didn't have absolutely MASSIVE followings get completely forgotten for whatever Isekai/boy with powers/romcom is trending this month
Quantum: nobody’s gonna play Elden ring in 2023
2024: people still playing Elden ring
That entire Polygon article is just shattered by the mere existence, and even more so the community's fondness, of Nepheli Loux.
14:20 damn he got gott good.
Makes me think he wrote this article so act man could react to it so asmongold could react to it and it was all planned by them
As someone who averages 45-60 hours a week. Spending the 2-3 hours at a time I could with all the boys, racing each other on progression was some of the most fun Ive had gaming in a while.
What are you talking about?
cool
Elden Ring is my first game from this company, and I’ll say it’s one of my favorite games I’ve ever played. Started about 3 weeks ago, and it is quite a difficult game. But I’ve tried to do it with no summons against bosses, so it being my first of these games I think I’m doing ok.
"Nobody will be playing in 2023"
Brother we are almost halfway through 2024 and I am still finding new shit to do in Elden Ring.
3:50 That instant face change lmfao
So good
"No one is gonna play Elden Ring in 2023"
I'm just waiting for the DLC to come out, because we al know it's coming.
Just subbed after re-subbing to WoW (haven't played in like 8 yrs yet was a release player... co-workers told me Dragonflight was worth it and its all new to me so far!)... just wanted to say I appreciate the content and keep up the good work!
They should worry more about their crime rates than video games
Asmon just added himself to the worst hot takes collection by saying younger Kratos was a one dimensional character
Sorta.
Younger Kratos continued down one path,given options he still chose that one path.
So it can be interpreted as one dimensional but that doesn't equate to bad.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 But he's not a one dimensional character. He's just wrong lol
Wasn´t he screaming every moment:
"ZEUS!"
or:
"I SEE THROUGH THE LIES OF THE GODS!"
Kratos from the first god of war wasn't one demontional.
The Kratos from god of war 3 absolutely was.
I don't really think it's unreasonable to think of Kratos as being super flat as a character since the only real depth he had was from the first game.
What was originally organized as a Greek tragedy had to be retooled into a Trilogy of bigger, flashier, and angrier spectacles.
Fromsoft fanboys are the most brainless drones in all of gaming, they're starting to smooth his brain out.
Bro really after the evolution from sonic Zelda and Mario go back and play what my generation had to play and we were grateful, man.
"I had a lot of fun trolling Elden Ring players..." -QUANTUM TV
Yes, I'm sure he isn't justifying his stupidity as being intentional by calling it "trolling" because he got called out by the entire community for his idiocy.
actman calling you out over the no summons thing made me laugh my ass off
I'm a woman that's been playing souls games for a long time.
I will always accept my lady giving me a hug or giving upgrades in all of these games. You need a hug when you get your ass handed to you by dragons, men and women outside.
Like damn these are some of the most fair and proportional women in most games.
Kinda funny that you get a debuff from hugging tho.
Hugs are gud!!
I m sure u re not a Real female for playing this kind of incell gale😂😅😉enjoy WE proud of u sis
“Fair and proportional women” lol🤣🤣🤣
"It would not kill the developers to add a difficulty toggle." Sure. But FROM Software respects its players and has faith in your ability to overcome the challenges in the game. I wish more games were made without difficulty selection.
Quantums take is hilarious, i was not a souls player before elden ring came out but now i have over 400 hours in it and have no intention of stopping. The game is just great. I started DeS recently and am planning to play through all of them. Elden Ring seems like a worthy goty contender to me
@@hectichive889 Demon's Souls. I guess the "e" is added to differentiate it from Dark Souls.
So, how many have you played so far? And which ones?
Kratos is an amazing character. Old kratos literally suffers from everything. He lost his family, he lost his brother, his mother, his home, he was the embodiment of rage in old schools of god of war. New kratos has now finally found peace and has now a second chance. He has his son Atreus. His wife Faye. He has made friends,mimir freya,brok and sindri. He has now a second chance in life and finally is free from his past. Even better he is now the embodiment of justice and peace rather then the god of war.❤ the franchise is a masterpiece. I hope his helps.
14:23 I was on the floor laughing cause asmongold legit called him the P word about using a summon.
17:41
"-you'll be a footnote in a couple of months."
I actually forgot that Quantum guy existed xD
Sorry Asmon I can't agree on that Kratos take. OG Kratos still displayed a lot of depths especially if you venture into the spinoffs. There are a lot of people who can explain it better than me so I recommend Tactical Gaming Productions' video "The One Thing Everybody Gets Wrong About Kratos" as a good start.
The most played God of war was god of war 3(not counting the newer ones) with is kratos at his angriest. So people has the image of him being one dimension, but it's not really true, even at Gow 3 he show his humanity some times.
OG Kratos did nothing but scream Zeus, wish he smashed Deimos, and kill stuff
@@bombomos I've not gotten to play the newer ones yet so I can't comment on them but I just don't like this prevailing narrative that the older games had bad writing and Kratos had no depth before.
Agreed kratos was great in every GoW except 2 leading into 3 and pretty much all of 3.
This is what people think that never played the games and only know about the Kratos memes
The only game that I have given my impressions on but never finished was Outriders. That game was extremely broken at release and the abysmal story didn't make experience any easier. Primarily I couldn't finish the game because there was a bug that constantly caused my game to crash. So I found myself irritated with it and shared impressions based on my current experience with the game. I feel bad that I didn't finish the game for my review so I didn't review the full game. However I went over why it's a bad idea release an unfinished game and described my time spent with the game. So I think it's fine to to give your impressions on a game if you played it for a few hours and have something to say about it. But only if you've played for a good amount of time and you have a detailed opinion that you would like to share.
I agree kratos was one dimensional in the first few games as like a doom guy design but the problem is if you didnt know you would never guess bro killed his family he never seemed like he was on a revenge quest so much as just a violence binge.
I miss characters being sexually ambiguous and their sexuality never mattered
Yeah I think having this types of characters in a multiplayer game doesnt really fit cause people might get angry that their “waifus” or “husbandos” dont swing their way. I mean its kinda pointless since people are just gonna keep fapping to them. And the fact they’re lesbians it is going to wake “those” types of people
The answer to that issue is just two words
Ms. Pacman
Me too, bro...
Old times.
@@Loser-jh3tq Getting angry at waifus/husbandos not swinging a certain way is dumb because getting creative with fictional characters' "gimmicks" has been at the core of the whole doujin industry. It's not like Tracer being officially gay has stopped the creation of straight content including her.
@@abadenoughdude300 Like I said its kinda pointless for them to announce someone’s sexuality (especially a woman) if people are just gonna keep fapping to her.
I understand that he's trolling whenever he talks about "play using spells, use summons means you're a pussy" but it's incredible how every time he says it, it makes me roll my eyes. 🤣
It's fine for people to say what Asmon says. It's also fine for people to play the way they want. The debate is healthy and keeps the community strong.
@@rclaws3230 Is it also fine to say that using a great sword is easy mode?
@@rclaws3230 "The debate is healthy" ONE SIDE LITTERALLY TELLS THE OTHER THAT THE WAY THEY PLAY MAKE THEM LESSER HUMAN BEINGS
@@venyren ONOEZ! They're litteraly Hitler! Come on, who cares? That's funny, that's all it is.
Spirit ashes are basically easy difficulty. It's not that hard to figure it out.
When Asmongold was talking about like, that small niche of toxic players that treat it like it's their whole personality, it really reminded me of someone I used to know. He gave me really judging stares and stuff because I played Elden Ring as my first Soulsborne game and actually liked it, and would be kind of douchey when I would try to talk in conversations about it.
This was especially prominent when I got into Bloodborne after Elden Ring.
I think the original GoW series had a lot going on that was easy to miss or forget, because it wasn't anywhere near as simple as "Kratos mad, Kratos smash" -- the story was pretty good and plenty emotional. The non-numbered games weren't spinoffs, they all told important parts of the story. He wasn't very one-dimensional at all imo 🤔
The Kratos in new games is far more one dimensional as his entire character can be summed up with the word Boi, he is less his own character and more Atreus Dad.
@@domehammer That makes no sense.
@@emperorfaiz Kratos doesn't get to have his own character, everything about him has to relate to him being Atreus dad. Everything has to be because of Atreus.
@@domehammer no shit hes a dad protecting his son?
@@domehammer so you’re calling every dad in video games one dimensional? Cause joel from the last of us would also apply with that logic. And Geralt and Kazuma Kiryu, etc. Literally some of the best characters in video games lol.
"2nd biggest problem is the graphics"
Elden Ring: Wins best art direction.
What makes the rant about the Scarlet and Violet so funny is that even the "bad reviews" just complained about the bugs and glitches,but that argument becomes irrelevant seeing how they were patched out later as the game still gets updates. In fact,most of my friends played Scarlet and Violet and we all would try to send each other the most cursed images of these bugs and glitches we could find. If anything,those would actually make the game EVEN FUNNER to play if you went out of your way to purpospefully break the game
I just wanna play SV and have fun, is that too much to ask?
If anything, the glitches make it funnier, like animation errors in cartoons.
Actually kratos was a great character, he had emotions unfortunately those emotions were mainly self hatred for killing his family and that turns into a mentally unstable monster, him destroying the universe because he continues to hate everything especially himself, the original god of war series Is a self destructive tragedy of a man who could forget about the past
8:51 "I am sorry ma'am but you've been diagnosed with "woman""
The issue wasn't you calling him one dimensional it's you saying that he's a terrible character. They aren't the same thing, you can have a one dimensional character who's freaking awesome. Like Asura in Asura's Wrath, the guy is literally just angry AF most of the time but he does the craziest coolest things
@@medigoomnis That argument can depend on the person. Not everyone wants deep nuanced characters all the time. Personally there are times where I just want to embrace my inner man-child and just watch crazy over the top stuff happen. And I'm almost 30
@@medigoomnis but that's still wrong
Kratos has a similarity between him and Master Chief in HALO. They're both lovable badass 'static' characters until the sequel changed their character traits into 'dynamic'*.
Just because asmon did it doesn't mean he's right. You can have your own opinion you know instead of just copying your fav streamers opinion..
@@ardantop132na6 Doomslayer has zero personality and you only learn about him through collectibles and he's a certified badass no matter who you ask
“It would not have killed the developers to respect new players!”
Elden Ring is my first souls game, I typically play games like Skyrim where combat is stand in place and hit the attack button. Also, I have a full time job, work on the side, and have a wife. So as a new player with a life… I absolutely love this game!
You can review a game whenever you want, just be upfront in how far you got and the difficulty. A history /way to see past reviews by the person is also good as well, if someone has fps games - don't look to them to review CoD the same way a fps fan would.
15:00 I would've died if by any chance he would've shown a clip of Asmon shouting "BIIG DIIIICK DAAMAAGE!"
Act man Rules
“These people don’t have REAL adult problems like dealing with litigations filed by your former spouse when you grab their wrist too hard and attempt to prevent an investigation. Doing damage control when your aforementioned spouse inevitably ends up revealing it publicly because you have chosen an absurd career path which -combined with your personality disorder-will destroy you. Telling anonymous people to take their own lives on your very serious, big boy gaming channel. Agonizing over the popularity of a toy you don’t like for an entire year and ranting about it to whoever will listen...Y’know like normal adults...”
Yeah, Asmon clearly did not play the old GoW games. Someone saying that Kratos was a one dimentional character before 2018 is a telltale sign of a person that didn't play the og series.
My favorite review was the dude that attacked the first npc and was infinitely killed by him until he quit.
Kratos was driven by grief and anger. Idk why you'd think the character was bad
Because I mad I kill.
Why can't the writer just be happy that the boss is one of the most badass female characters in games period 😂😂