Acer Predator X35 vs Asus PG35VQ, Battle of the Ultimate HDR Monitor
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Acer Predator X35 Review
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Thanks for the info! Very helpful. Just got the PG35VQ and I am pretty happy with it.
how is that hdr performance in film and game?
love these quality monitor reviews, you do a really great job. kudos
This guy mentions a lot of cons😅 and this make decisions difficult
This is great! I will wait for 2-3 years for this kind monitor to be in sale.
or get a fucking job
@@strongfatman2014 Companies love people like you. Useful idiots.
Or just get this...
ua-cam.com/video/V8BVTHxc4LM/v-deo.html
Digital Foundry
Even 2-3 year later a sale would only be $100-$200. Monitors do not go down in price much. Check the PG278Q the TN version only goes on sale $50-$100 every now and then and that monitor is soo old. You are realistically looking at a used version.
Wait 20 years 😂😂😂
Great review as always. Just one suggestion. So you think you can reverse the colors on the gamma curve? It's harder to see the gray line than the yellow target line. Thanks for the review!
Great vid keep up the good work
I love your reviews, keep them coming.
Great review ! I'm looking forward to seeing the Samsung C49RG90 review.
Tim, good review as always. I have 2 questions for you:
1) Have you thought about doing a monitor calibration guide? I think it would be really useful to your viewers.
2) Any chance you could get ahold of a Dell S2716DG? IMO it's the best bang for the buck Gsync monitor available.
Tim, I would love it if you could do a best monitor for each price bracket/point. Thank you! Also, your content is top notch and I always enjoy it : )
Could you add bars on your response time graph for what you need for 120, 144, and 240 hz refresh rates to not have ghosting?
I can't find the option to turn off dynamic backlight. Where in the OSD is this option?
Is it worth to get this monitor in 2021? It's on sale right now for 2 more days in Norway from $3313 down to $1774. Or are there any other better options out there or soon maybe coming? Like the LG UltraGear 34GN850-B or the up coming LG UltraGear 34GP950G.
Great review as always! I need advice though. Local store has an x34GS on sale but there is also a private sale 2yr old (still under warranty) x35 200hz with dedicated gsync-ultimate I can get for the same price!
I like that the x34gs seems to have faster input time and less input delay(I think) due to the panel being IPS? but I'm not sold on there being only gsync-C and possible ips glow. - I like that the x35 is VA with real HRD and BLACK blacks but then I'm worried about mouse pointer halo as I don't only play games but also do a bit of web design and photoshopping. *colour accuracy is not a selling point however.
Anyway, for fps games and a bit of work procrastination haha Which monitor would be the best? *Im swaying towards the x35 due to it being such a powerhouse monster - it also apparently doesnt have the fan ramping as it was a later release, I assume with the bios updated which seems to address that issue.
I currently have a very old x34a 100hz that is great but its time to upgrade as I just built a new gaming rig with a 3080ti etc.
Thanks for any help.. I would love to know your opinion :) Thanks for all the great reviews and info :)
So my question - X34GS or X35? :) heeeelp! thanx
You guys are experts in monitor review, just love it
how big is the monitor for games that don't support 21:9 and run at 16:9? i currently use a 32'' monitor and don't want anything smaller
The fact they can justify those prices and make the frame out of poor plastic, plus a crappy fan is beyond me.
yup at that price they could opt for a good cooling solution like aib cooling and the over shoot and error rate is kinda correctable with software update but it should have been fix
If anyone wants HDR just buy a 55 inch OLED TV, same fucking price as this garbage, many of them also support 120 Hz.
Monitors are overpriced and have been so for years and years and people keep buying this garbage
@@wile123456 monitors are not overpiced. You have way higher dpi on monitor low imput lag and better color accuracy.
Of course it's beyond you. The reason why these things cost so much is because of the technology that goes into making the panels themselves. R&D doesn't pay for itself. In time, this tech will become dirt cheap.
@@commercio3564 I hope you've some stock options in those companies.
Hey Tim are you planing on reviewing the Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ ?
Too many niggling little things for the crazy price, I'll wait for the AOC/Agon mid range equivalent.
And keep waiting. You won't be impressed either way.
@@commercio3564 isn't price an impression?
@@commercio3564 I have an AOC 1440p 144hz panel now its great for the price I paid.
@TheGhost "niggling" = mildy irritating. many niggling things breaks the camel's back. Google would have helped you out you know ;)
if your not bothered about true HDR LG 38GL950G looks good extra 3" 1ms IPS
Please tell me you'll be looking into the new alienware ultrawide monitor...
Hey Tim, could you do a video on CRT monitors, the technology, the advantages and the disadvantages? A bit like your TN vs IPS vs VA video.
The main problems with CRT monitors was image geometry .
Are we going to need cooling mods for our monitors now?
I have the X35 and after flashing with the firmware posted on Jan 2020 from Acer's site, the fan ramp-up issue went away. I don't know why this is not documented in their release note, seems to be a big concern for many.
Any news about the release date of the pg27uqx plz ? And price
Steve what is your top 3 1440p 144hz monitor at this time?
Great review. Unfortunately both of these are bit too rich for my blood.
Still eyeing up the LG 32GK650F. Looks like the best value 1440p option for gaming/media consumption right now.
what i went with and 300 usd on sale at microcenter. it's great may get another one.
Same same. As soon as he said 2500 I turned off the video lol
Do you know if they fixed the fan ramp up?
How do i calibrate my display to display the correct colors?
3:18 The text was too funny!
Anything labeled "gaming" will automatically be overpriced. Remember that!
Same goes for anything labeled educational, medical, or therapeutic. It's the world we live in man
Not even close to the price of professional grade products. Example would be Nvidia quadro compared to geforce, and monitors used for editing that requires at least 10-bit panel
kishona69 wrong
would this be a good monitor for apex? im a noob at this type of stuff. currently playing on a old samsung curve 55 inch tv
2:05 That's exactly what I've always wanted to know about the top-end, high-speed, wide-gamut gaming displays - what plastic they're made of ;)
Can you guys please do a review on the latest Viewsonic VX2758-2KP-MHD IPS monitor?
You have LG 32GK850F monitor in your charts but I can not find a video about that monitor?
I’ve had most of the new monitors including the x35 and the 850F. For what it is the 850F is excellent value and a lovely screen
@@ssheen79 My 32GK850F arriwed to me today. Going to test it in 2 hours. I hope it is good.
Hi Tim, thanks for the test. For comparisons sake: I own a pg35vq and must admit that the overdrive mode "extreme" is unfortunately unusable with FALD enabled. In your review you said it´s the best mode for FALD on but in my opinion on my unit it has way too much overshoot. Only normal works ok with little overshoot but the black level smearing is quite noticeable. I would love to see those numbers in your new test suit but I guess you don´t have access to this monitor anymore ? To me it seems quite similar to the x35 numbers. I mean it´s not unusable but the black smearing is quite bad.
I have an Acer x35 and you’re right. Extreme overdrive is simply a no go on these panels.
@@djwats7 i run mjne on extreme exclusive but have jad the issues you guys mentioned. What am i looking for?
Can you test some higher end CRTs compared to modern high end monitors? Digital foundry’s latest video saying the image quality and fluidity beats OLED has me incredibly skeptical and I’d like to see more on it.
Where did the dark level average chart go?
Whom makes the panel?
Me: “cool features, must cost 1,000$”
Tim: “expected to ship at $2,500”
Oh.
"hdr".... Don't bother honestly. Get a 1440p 144hz IPS (+/- 600 bucks) and that's all you will ever need if ur gpu is good enough obv.
BuzzKil1 1080p/60Hz/5ms/TN peasant here 🖐
@@mudgie0205 Same here, dont worry (over clocked mine to 80hz ;)
can't afford my own advice yet lmfao.
The X34 was 1200 how would this cost 1k?
@@NeoArch for $600 you can get 1440p 240hz tn if colors don't matter lol its much faster than this x35 and pg35vq
Is the the AW3418DW good?
Just now watching this, bored at work, months later.
I've had the X35 since it first sold in the US. Mine did have that fan ramping up and down problem, but that only lasted a month or so then it stopped.
As for overdrive, I find Normal with FALD enabled to be the best setting. Turning this to extreme with FALD results in major overshoot. It does essentially remove all ghosting, but I find this to be far more distracting than the ghosting.
As for color accuracy, out of the box it was pretty good. Perhaps yours got banged a couple times in delivery?
Only problem I have with mine is a manufacturing defect I noticed about 3 months after purchase. The plastic that borders the panel has a small, probably 3cm section on the very top bezel, that is raised a couple centimeters.
I'd like to see these monitors re-tested as several months after being put on sale, a firmware update was pushed out for everyone to download and install onto their monitors. Aside from what it aimed to correct (a flickering issue), it may have made other adjustments as well.
You can buy an X35 for $1800 or so now in the US on Amazon. Not too bad honestly, although I'd point people towards the C9 by Samsung before this, unless you really need that HDR1000.
Digital foundry are trying to bring CRT monitors back, it'd be interesting to see you review one thoroughly and compare it to a modern monitor.
Cool video
There is oled Samsung 32 inch 1440p monitor ...is it good ?
We need you to get your hands on the BsFG from ASUS Rog 65”.
First of all, great review! I don’t consider myself rich by any means, however I will invest (if able) in high quality/performing products. After doing countless hours of research, I decided to hold off on buying a gaming monitor. It seems there’s always a compromise on specs despite paying premium. I just feel like we’re not there yet. I also feel like CES 2020 was a letdown from the gaming monitor category, perhaps next year we will see more competitive products launch 🚀 . Really bummed as I want more screen real-state from the 27” I got now for both work and gaming lifestyle. Looking forward to more 38” ultra wide curved gaming monitor category with at least 1600p, 1ms response, HDR1000, G Sync and 166+ Hz. That’ll be my dream monitor 👍🏽
So I've waited a whole year and the prices are still the same ):
If you will listen to the morons online that literally line up to tell people "Wait" for every product they can't afford, you will end up dying before enjoying anything.
I just bought the Asus PG35VQ for $1750. Saved $1552. It was on sale for only a weekend. I guess i got lucky :D
@@Cruizerman BEYOND lucky. I paid 2140 UK Pounds for mine a week ago.
@@ScarA I live in Norway and saw that ''Elkjøp'' had sale on the PG35VQ. It said it was on Record Sale and sat down $1552 only for the last weekend (Feb 19 - Feb 21) So i had to go for it. Now waiting exitingly for my new monitor to arrive :D Gonna be my very first ultra wide curved gaming monitor. Upgrading from a 24 inch 2560x1440 165hz 1ms TN G-sync monitor (XB241YU) i have used for 3 years.
@@Cruizerman You will be blown away beyond imagining. That's all I can tell you haha. There is no going back from that. Congratulations!.
Witch ones better
how do you feel about the acer x34 now that you can get it for 800 USD
Still a great all around monitor, but there are now a few 120hz+ capable IPS 21:9 displays that edge it out, all boils down to what you can get at what price.
Can you review the new Monitor Asus ROG Strix XG279Q.
Can you go through and name the best monitors to buy per category, like y'all do with the gpu videos, some new monitors releasing are ridiculous in price, like alienware new 34 inch ultrawide, why is it 1500usd? Looking for 1440p ultrawide, best one I see is Acer predator x34.
Acer Predator X34P (same as X34, but 120Hz and slightly better colour gamut)
Wait monitor has fans?
Is the huge price premium attributed to HDR or high refresh rate? I guess it's the former?
@M16andPregnantt 200Hz is available but not at that resolution.
3:19 *LMFAO NOW I CAN SAY TO MY PARENTS THAT I'M CLEANING MY ROOM!!*
Xd
This looks to be future proof for quite some time, arrived today can't wait to use it with my maxed out Alienware R8 Gaming Desktop
The fan noise on the monitor matches my work laptop (which is horrible by the way) fans.
Why do ultra high end monitor s even bother with speakers?
Still can't find an LCD that matches my CRT for motion and overall picture quality.
Been watching Digital Foundry?
@@phreakinpher Yeah - I just saw their video from yesterday. I had an FW900 for years until it exploded. Now I'm using its 4:3 cousin, the C520K. I have bought and returned several G-Sync displays over the last 3 years, each a disappointment.
I see u are a man of kulture
What's ur opinion about 32 inch 1080p monitor if I set about to meters away from it ... Will it be good ??????
No..
@@hantzleyaudate7697 even from 2 meters away ?
I ended up getting Alienware aw3420dw. 120hrtz. Ips panel. And 2ms response time. And it's gsync. For 1000. Definitely worth it. Prolly won't upgrade this for a while unless they get 4k ultrawide with 144hrtz and 2ms response time or better
hey can you review the asus tuf vg32vq1b pls 🙏🏻🙏🏻
What game is that at 1:38
Is this monitor good for FPS games ?
Listen to the Predators' Fan Noise at 3:15. WTF. SWIFT: 1, Predator: 0. Thank you, dude, impressive review.
future review on a budget Acer VG271UP
Definitely my dream gaming monitor. And the reason this is better then every other 35 inch gaming monitor is because ethos do the only 35 inch gaming monitor that has 200hz. I would get a sceptre 35 inch gaming monitor just because it has a cooler looking stand but since this has 200hz then that’s why this is the best 35 inch gaming monitor
This video has come just in time. My birthday this month and my Predator XB271HU is due a swap out. Time to treat myself
Don't mean to shit on your birthday, but this monitor would be a waste. In a year or 2 we will have way better solutions for HDR with less noticeable or not noticeable local dimming. Better off using that XB271HU for another year or two and then getting something actually worth the price. GtG is absolute shit on these too, so you get ugly ghosting. Or you turn on the overdrive and you get pretty bad inverse ghosting.
Unless you or your family is rich, this is a bad buy. Just buy some other nice things, and then in 2 years you get a super nice monitor.
@@cheytacsnipes I don't necessarily disagree with you, but i hate it when people say to wait for the better technology. There will literally ALWAYS be something better "just a couple years away". If you wait for perfect, you'll literally be waiting your entire life. I guarantee that the next generation of monitors will have their own issues, and people will be saying "just wait a couple years and those issues will be fixed".
I'd still be on my old, $500 overheating laptop if i kept telling myself to just wait for that next piece of technology that'll be better. At some point you have to decide whether you want to keep waiting, or just live life.
@@SuperAdventureR1301 cool story 11 months late m8
In Swedistan these monitors cost an impressive 5000$ AUD.
Mashllah!
what about Samsung crg9??
Thank you for this video, I was just about to buy used(like new) acer x35 from Amazon for £750...seams like a great deal right?...than I watched this video and thank god he send YOU among us!....I would kill myself if I would have to deal with that fan noise😂
Just picked up my Acer X35 for $1,799 at microcenter - a solid $600 cheaper than the Asus PG35VQ and they're the same monitor. At $1,800 I could justify it, but at $2,400 I just couldn't hardly fathom spending that much more for the same monitor. Being 1DE off on greyscale color calibration compared to the PG35VQ is honestly semantics.
does it flicker like all PG35VQ's and X35's ? witcher and PUBG are manifesting the worst flickering.
I have the older version of this monitor (only 100mhz refresh not 200 and no HDR) and I love it. Just wish it didn't cost so much. I would be more likely to get this over the ASUS as it looks less "gamery" from the front. I'll never understand RGB lighting on the back of a monitor
I would buy one, but the price tag is too much for me.
I am waiting for OLED or IPS/VA FALD HDR +120hz screens under 1000 Euro, even at 1440p 27 inch.
@@atiradeon6320
Yeah I was thinking of a OLED 4K TV for casual RPG gaming.
But waiting for those 120hz ones with DP1.4 or HDMI 2.1
Have you checked out the Asus VG27AQ?it's HDR,IPS,155hz,1ms response time and G-Sync compatible for only $429
@@jannu422
Thanks for recommendation, but it's an IPS with no FALD and I am not interested in IPS with no FALD.
I would rather prefer a normal VA for HDR and casual gaming.
Monitors without proper full array dimming, micro led or oled cannot do proper HDR.
Thats why I am looking for OLED or IPS/VA only with FALD/microLED.
If I would have to go with no FALD/microLED OR OLED, then I would just prefer normal VA for media consumption and casual gaming.
As 2nd screen I already got 1080p 144hz TN for competetive gaming.
Watching on my z35p ultrawide 3440x1440 , resolution not supported, the irony..... Also I noticed that that model is not on any HU test results
I'd love to see the X27 or the updated PG27UQ response times with your new response time and overshoot metrics. I loved my X27 but had to sell it when I noticed there seemed to be inverse ghosting on the only mode quick enough to hit acceptable response times and low enough input latency for competitive gaming
My lg gx tv destroy my acer x27 in response time and input lag.
@@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear oled flex
@@helloguy8934 No it's true. once you go oled you cant go back.
@@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear lie
@@helloguy8934 ok
that fan noise on the acer is a deal breaker. appart from the fact I'll never trust acer hardware. I supported an entirely acer desktop and laptop office for 2 years, I've never seen more power related hardware failures in my life. plus the laptops just fell apart.
You guys should check out the asus tuf vg27aq
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_tuf_gaming_vg27aq.htm
Please!! Seems like it should be the perfect 1440p gaming display.
Yes and i really love that monitor! I can afford these Expensive monitors but since i had found that long before it’s the best budget gaming monitor worth to buy. 😍
That fan would drive me mad.
Review alienware AW2518H pls
I bought the PG35VQ almost a month ago, it's been a delight though it could always be better. I chose it over the X35 because of the better fans. Gears 5 on this monitor is amazing.
The better fans? the fan of my 35VQ was so loud, that i even could hear it when i watched movies its just a bad joke.
@@shagal2142 Not the case with the fans in mine thankfully :)
Now imagine people live streaming with an already loud GPU fan that competes with X35 fan! 😂
I have the Acer Predator X34 3440x1440 100hz IPS monitor got it brand new for $1300 AUD that $4000 price is ridiculous
You're omitting the PG35VQ's amp for the headphone jack.
Can we get a review of the lg 38gl950g please
Really good review, thanks for spending the time and making all those comparisons.When paying so much money for a monitor you should expect only the best.
It’s really funny though how all the famous reviewers like you, Linus Tech Tips, Pc Centric, The Tech Champ didn’t speak at all for the Flickering issues that both monitors suffer..
There are a lot of people already replaced 2 or even 3 units and still have Flickering...
There are many different videos in UA-cam uploaded showing the problem and even posts in different forums...One of the most famous at the momment in Acers community :
community.acer.com/en/discussion/573868/x35-flickering-acer-x35-monitor/p6
There is no fix at the momment for this problem...They said it’s an Nvidia driver but even after 2 new driver releases the problem didn’t fix itself...
Just imagine paying 3000-3500$€£ and having that flickering problem...For that amount of money an employe from Acer or Asus should come in your house and install the monitor in your desk for you...
Anyway I can’t understand how non of you reviewers didn’t say a thing about that problem...Maybe the companies know this issue and send you good units and they sell the bad ones in the market...But honestly someone needs to addres this!!
Just bought the x35. No regrets
Flickering issue destroyed these monitors + halo blooming effect.
The Word “FINE” is not acceptable at 2500$!!!!!!!!
And a very loud fan. Simply ridiculous.
I had no flickering issues.Bloom when you sit infront of it, isn´t even really visible, in steam i only noticed it when i really focused on it.
In games its not there.
But mine was broke after 2 times tipping on the joystick on the back of the PG35vQ.
Yep these issues would annoy me, ignoring the fact I would expect perfection for US$2500
@@Battleneter Luck for ya, that it "only" costs 2500 dollar in the US.The PG35VQ costs in germany 2800€ nearly 3099 dollars.And the X35 2770 dollar.
Apparently not all had the issue. Its been apparently sorted out was just a small gimmick. Its new tech. So new buyers like myself we re simply.. well beta testers. For this tech. It will get cheaper as time goes.
Oh shit that active fan is an absolute deal breaker.
You guys haven't noticed any flickering and scan lines ?
They didnt check for it, but all these panels are effected by flickering.
muSPK means all of them are dead
I have one and it does have flicker, I show the issue well on my youtube. Acers not doing anything about it but suggesting people send it in for replacement and people get another flickering monitor. Nvidia arnt even saying anything. Flicker and lines are everywhere, lines are there even on the startup no signal box when you switch the monitor on.
@@boatkettlecheese8666 its sad that I see so many people returning these on both reddit and the forums. But nvidia or Acer/Asus are yet to provide any updates.
Aside from HDR and the 200hz support is there a big difference to the older z35p (1440p 120hz curved)
Well that’s basically the only real difference although it also has a much better black level with no flow or bleed thanks to the fald. It also feels a little less input laggy as well.
look at the Crossover TIO UW3535
With the x27 at 1650usd and the pg27uq at 1500usd (even though it's slightly worse), it's hard to justify the 35inch models unless someone REALLY wants the 200hz VA curved over 144hz ips at a 70% price premium.
It feels like they cut more corners on these 35inch models to increase margins, though 1440p uw 144hz 4:4:4 on a 2080 ti is a really good selling point, they might have pushed pricing too far. I asked friends who have the 27inch models and none of them have any interest in the 35inch models.
I have the X35 and X27. Would take the X35 over X27 any day despite the price difference. Both have pros and cons but at the end of the day the ultrawide is much better for gaming purposes.
@@hexxum personal perference, i don't like VA or curved so that's a deal-killer for me, but being able to run uw 1440p 144hz 10bit on a 2080 ti is nice compared to 4k/98 on medium. It's good they have both models since people were asking for a bigger monitor the moment the x27 came out, just not my thing though.
for that price I expect at least a build quality and materials used to be appropriate to the pricing...same goes for the quality of the overall product? I mean if Iam buying a monitor that is supposedly worth 2500 dollars Iam expecting it not to have a fan that can be as loud as a vacuum cleaner...holy crap...Gaming monitors have still quite a long time to be perfected. I want a 1440p or 4K HDR gaming monitor with at least 165 refresh rate and a nice sleek, not gaming design build of quality materials, Iam hoping OLED picks up for gaming monitors, Iam fed up with lcd quality.
$2500 USD or AUD?
I am sure you have the answer by now. (being around a year has passed)
I am very surprised no-one has replied to you yet.
The answer nevertheless is USD.
Around $3500AUD.
Just bought the Asus monitor for $2299 from Microcenter. Yeah it’s expensive but my god is it beautiful. I was skeptical coming from a Acer X34 Predator but the Asus has been amazing.
I have the PG35VQ hooked up to my Xbox X. BF1 looks great with HDR on
You bought a 200hz monitor to play at 30fps?? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@CaptHotah For now I have my Xbox One X hooked up to it...But I intend to get a gaming PC.
@@xboxgamer7453 I would ebay this VA turd.
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What does he mean by "they use the same panel"? Are the big brands recycling third party screens made by other companies ala memory manufacturers and RAM sellers?
AU Optronics are where most of the panels in monitors come from.
Review IPS ASUS VG279Q, apparently its one of the best IPS 144hz out there. Based on few reviews.
Its only 1080p so no its years behind.
27"?
allmost one year since release, still nothing close to REALISTIC PRICES... Micro Led, its the future...