I will be honest. I never thought that I would be as interested or educated in monitors as HUB has made me haha. Love the level of detail and insight! Super excited to see how the new house comes along too!
At those saying 4k is pointless at 27", you clearly haven't used it. Massive step up from 1440p. Also let's say you get 32", you'll just push the screen back more.
I've been using 4k montiors for about 6 years now and 32 inch is the best size at any desk length. I've used shallow Ikea linnmons and deeper corner desks and I prefer 32" 4k monitors
You'll be waiting for a long long time. OLED is trash. It looks good but the tech is trash. You can't even dim an OLED display, only flicker more to give the illusion of less brightness.
@@hinatashoyo2999 Want 1440p. I dont believe 4k is mature enough. Even 2080ti struggles (and a big NO for using non native res) and, more annoyingly, all the screwed up scaling that occurs with various software when you up the scaling to read text. Thats one beauty of 32" 16:9 1440p, exact same dPI as 24" 1080p, which is the defacto size for fonts and windows. Its not the monotrs fault but the myriad of software that cant be unified. I beleive LG does sell a 1440p 144hz moniotr but the unifomrity is a fair amount worse than the very good 32" 60hz samsung i have.
Ughh, you don’t want past 28 inch monitors (maybe your thinking TV and couch gaming). My last phone was 1440p, and it looked great at its size. I’d want 8k if your going to 32 inches (if your blind you won’t see the difference, and good news for you, because 144 Hz 1440p will make your wallet much happier!) I’ve got 3x 28 inch 4k monitors, I’d go down to 24 inch if I was only gaming on it (single monitor gaming)
I recently upgraded from a 120hz 1080p monitor and I'm loving this 120hz 4k monitor. The HDR mode seems alright to me , but I have never seen "real HDR" before, so I have nothing to compare it to.
Nice to see 120Hz 4K TV's are finally forcing down monitor prices. Just keep in mind this monitor likely still has a 50% mark-up people.... the prices are gonna come down much more than this over the next 12 months...
Would love to see you review the G-sync cousin of this the XB273K. It’s on sale on a number of sites for $999 USD right now and can do HDR and G-sync at the same time. It also has 3 dimming zones according to some reviews. It does have a cooling fan, but without the FALD and its 100W extra power draw it seems to run at tolerable noise levels. Also a number of Nitro buyers reported hideous backlight bleed. The XB being a true G-sync monitor seems to have a bit better quality control.
I bought one of these 2 days ago (before this review) and i have to say your review is spot on. It's great to see a review that's unbiased, technically accurate and clearly details the caveats, quirks, hits and misses of the product.
Interested in the IPS version but not for $999 yet. I got a 2080ti and I’ve been looking at a 4K screen to compliment my PG279Q for less demanding/single-player games.
Abraham - I have 2 1080tis, but SLI support isn’t what it used to be. I hop between games a lot and don’t want to mess with setting up custom profiles for other games and stuff to get things working right. My 2080ti is a better overall experience and can do 4K/60 or 1440/144 no problem
Just bought this as an ungrade to my Acer XB270HU (1440p144hzIPS) That I got 4 years ago for around $700. This one went on sale for the same price as my old one and I couldn't pass it up. Certain games really do look amazing (BF1 in particular looks shockingly good). Thanks for a great review leading me to a great purchase. Bought with the affiliate link because you deserve it 👍
Great review. I bought one of these monitors this week. Your review helped me make my mind up to buy it. I'm using it now. Just a couple of things (1) the power on switch is well hidden at the back of the monitor so don't forget to turn the power switch on (press the button) or it won't start (2) I have 2 display port cables plugged into (2 x 2080ti NVlink, both cables plugged into same card) and it shows up as 2 monitors in Nvidia control panel. I can't select 144hz mode via OSD or any other way I've tried. It just goes dark and then switches back to 120hz. (3) I used this to replace a Philips 40inch 4k 60hz monitor and I'm missing the extra size of everything, especially in Battlefield 1. All the targets are tiny. I switched to 1440p yesterday but everything still seemed small. Except I can see the targets from very far away due to the quality of the monitor but can't easily kill them as they're very far away. Is that last ting a catch 22? To be honest I want the old monitor back.
Just a thought, did you test the colours with an AMD card and dual DP cables @ 144hz and 10bits or a single cable @ 120hz and 8 bits? I'm not an expert and just wondering if that would make a difference at all?
Did you find any backlight bleeding on your unit? I have an XV273K and the backlight bleeding in some of the corners is severe. Currently battling against Acer support. They initially requested photos and based on the photos accepted the unit for repair. However now they are reneging. Very disappointing given the high-end price of this display.
I may actually have to aquire one of these types of monitors in a few years when they actually become affordable. I won't even look at a new monitor for a couple more years, but when I do I hope these are in a range I can actually justify spending. This price is really not bad at all when you consider what you get, but a couple hundred dollars less would really put it in an area I could consider it. In a few years I think it sounds reasonable that it could be at that level. It really depends on if I can afford a graphics card that can game at this level by then, because current GPU pricing is not encouraging.
Would be keen to see your review of the Wasabi Mango 43" 4K 120Hz monitor, as technically it the cheapest 4K 120Hz monitor available and has been out the longest as well.
So it's really a 120hz SDR monitor to most people... I always vesa mount my monitors so I wish manufacturers would offer they're monitors without a stand ...may be few £ cheaper.
It can run 4K 144Hz with x2 DP with no HDR and FreeSync, but still it's the only one capable of such resolution+refreshrate without chroma subsampling or lowering to 8-bit mode
ha better pray, that they at least keep vesa mounts on monitors, the new upcoming acer 43 inch 144 hz monitor doesn't have a damn vesa mount from the videos i saw, a beyond 1000 dollar monitor, that isn't height adjustable, but has no vesa mount, the worst of all worlds :D also stands are cheap especially at this class of monitor compared to the display (without stand), meaning u're not saving much to sell one without a stand, u mean u are in the very very small minority of vesa mounting your monitors and having the original stand also increases resell value, if u ever sell the monitor. i would consider bottom tier monitors coming without a height adjustable stand a bigger crime, if u include a stand, make it one that is useful and healthy at least right???
I rarely comment on videos I watch. But I really want to say that I love the new clean background. Very soothing and pleases my OCD. I hope you keep this one for good Tim.
Great job! I agree 4K is not quite here yet. 1440p is the best/cheaper option right now. 144hz 4K gaming is 1-2 years out still but we are seeing the HDR light at the end of the tunnel.
Good review, Tim! They've managed to improve on a lot of things in my view, which makes me hopeful for the future! First, the dealbreaker was the active cooling on the original units, glad to hear those are gone now. Second, price is obviously much improved and seems fair now. Impressed. Third, I couldn't care less about HDR so tbh I'm happy they removed it to obtain a better price point. What is still a problem for me is the size. I really want this to be 32". 4K on a 27" panel is just too small for me and it becomes annoying with all the old software that doesn't scale well. Maybe I'm a special snowflake, but no, this isn't working for me. Currently using a 27" Asus PG279Q for gaming and a 43" Acer ET430 for 4K. Ideally I'd like to combine the two. Some day.. :)
I like idea of using 2 DP cables, as long input lag is not affected. Freesync is anyway useless if goes over 144 hz (max refresherate of given monitor). At least in my case, there I like High Refresh Rates anyway.
So u recomend this one for who owens a xbox one s ? In the I'll buy the new ps5 or the new xbox, so I want to be prepare now, with a monitor which is not too expensive and has 4k, over 60hz and with a quality screen
@tim I think that you don't get how important is HDR even on Fake HDR monitors. When you enable HDR in both monitors and OS you are in a "color managed environment", this save you from oversaturated colors. so no. HDR is really important even on fake HDR monitors and the fact that XV273K lack the possibility to enable HDR with Freesync is a real disadvantage.
Hey look, my monitor. Can confirm it's amazing at everything and competes nicely ( not quite as good, but close ) with a dell ultrasharp for colors you really can't go wrong here. it has everything minus the kitchen sink.
You can pick up a PG27UQ for 1200 nowadays..I literally just left a Microcenter and was eyeballing that monitor for like 30 minutes..it is absolutely gorgeous. I was looking at it side by side with my current monitor, ASUS PG279Q (2k, 165hz, IPS), with the same high resolution picture on both, and the difference blew my mind. I couldn't believe it was the same picture.
What's great for me with 4K120 is I could game in 1080p (I won't have the hardware for 4K HRF gaming any soon), & video / photo edit in 4K HDR with the same monitor. The other option is to buy 2 monitors, each having the points I mentioned, & it actually could be cheaper (1080p 144hz monitors are dirt cheap now, & 4K are findable around 400$ )
Did this unit have any backlight blead? I bought the Acer Predator XB273K Pbmiphzx 27, and it had the worst Backlight blead I had ever seen! I was in the market for a 4k 144hz, and that's really all I wanted I didn't need HDR or gsync. Acer had 3 predator models that were 4k 144hz. The x27 for $2000, the Xb273k for $1200, and I think this one for $800 (or one really similar). I saw the reviews on the lower end one and alot of ppl were complaining of Backlight blead so I stayed away from that one and went with the Xb273k. I thought I would save $800 and get a more reasonably priced one. When I got it I all most threw up trying to watch an HDR movie on it, the backlight bleed was so bad it made me nauseous. I didn't buy it for HDR so I played some games on it, it was still horrible! If it was even a slightly dark scene the corners where almost pure white! So I returned it and coughed up the extra money for the x27 because I knew it had local dimming and would have these problems. I like the x27 but it's alot more than I wanted to pay. I got it from the Acer store for $1700 and a 10% off student discount code. So it wasn't the full $2000
No monitors support this, and realistically, this is unlikely to happen anytime soon. Consider that adaptive sync technologies will refresh "on demand" or when the GPU sends a new frame to the monitor. Black frame insertion (otherwise known as ULMB) just blacks out the display on every other frame, and the monitor can do this because it has a consistent cadence of when the next frame will be displayed. Doing both would basically require the GPU to predict when it's 50% done with a frame which then causes the monitor sync and display a black frame and then when it's 100% done to display a regular frame right then and there, but the problem here is that not every video frame takes equally as long to display. Additionally, consider that black frame insertion does literally reduce the perceived brightness, and when you start mixing in variable length black frames with variable length video frames, you could potentially hit game scenarios where the screen is perceived to dynamically darken/brighten depending on your framerate. These, among many other reasons, is why ULMB and adaptive sync is a pick 1 situation. Do you want less display persistence but you're ok with screen tearing or reduced screen brightness? Pick ULMB. Do you want no screen tearing? Pick Adaptive sync.
Using the monitor in 4:4:4 no chroma subsampling with single display port at 120Hz with HDR and GSYNC. To do it you simply need to download the Acer Display Widget and enable HDR from the software, GSYNC and HDR will remain enable with 4:4:4 8bit+frc.
The G2G average is misleading. This monitor has some very slow transitions which make it smear light colors into grey. Smearing is even worse in Freesync because overdrive is locked to normal. You can't use HDR and Freesync and 144Hz together. At best you get HDR + Freesync @ 120Hz by exploiting a bug in the Acer app, but the experience is not good. In desktop usage, the dim left and right edge are distracting. If you have a Nvidia GPU, I highly recommend going for the XB273K which doesn't have the poor overdrive issues.
As an owner of the x27 and the asus pq27u for quite some time now. I don't believe they have been 2k for a long time. I didnt pay near 2k for mine and neither do the few people I have recommended them to.
You should do a video on 4x4GB vs 2x8GB ram for the new gen of intel chips they’ve been released (9900k, 9700k etc) I’ve seen a few things in the past few weeks thatve made choosing between the two very hard
Well since those chips are due channel only... your only slowing down your memory overclock a ton by stressing the IMC on it and get worse potential when going above the duel channel they can use. For Threadripper, quad channel is a must, just like duel channel is a must for most chips, but the 9900k just like it’s low PCIe count, has low/normal memory capability.
Help! I just got one for myself but I can't seem to change my refresh rate to anything higher than 60Hz on 4K. I'm currently using one Displayport cable which I believe is all I need, Ive tried a different cable, different port (haven't really tried a different resolution or HDMI 2.0, will check and update, won't be possible for me to try two DP at once since my GPU only has one DP input). Anybody have any ideas?
@@saturnotaku hi you are absolutely correct. I did end up upgrading my graphics card to an RX 5700XT (after 5 years using my R9 390X) and everything is working as intended now. Cheers!
I'd be quite interested in some reviews of 144Hz 1440p monitors. I'd quite like to get one to replace the old 1050p 60Hz panel I have after I upgrade my PC. But it's hard to compare monitors without physically using them infront of you and looking at the colours and response times etc.
I FUKCING HATE when the marketing says "144Hz" while it's actually NOT native 144Hz, but native 120Hz overclockable to 144Hz. It should be illegal to market the product this way. That means not only you are reducing visual quality and lifespan of the monitor, but in adition to that, G-Sync will be limited to 120 Hz max, taking the delta into account to stay in safe VRR range, it means a 115 FPS lock, which often does not align with games that has 30 or 60 FPS animations / physics lock (and sadly there are plenty), meaning the game will be smooth but the animations will stutter a bit constantly. Definitely not the experience you want at that price. Also, such a monitor at that price ? Something has to be off somewhere. EDIT : looking at Amazon customers reviews, apparently the panel is very bad and has major backlight bleeding problems.
@@surelock3221 no problem mate, the thing with gsync and freesync, is that they operates within a range, lets say in this case 30-120hz, but to know if you are in the low or high extremity of the range, there is a delta of a couple of frames for frametime calculation, so the module know if it has to operate or not. For example, if you play at 160 fps, the module knows it cant operate and you wont have gsync, if you play at 90 fps, the module knows it can operate so you will have gsync, but if you play at 119 fps, its too close to the high extremity of the variable refreshrate range, so the module will constantly enable and disable, or just simply stay disabled, which results in bad stuttering. So to prevent this you limit the framerate to a couple of frames below, to be sure to never hit the gsync delta :)
@@deus_nsf Jesus I didn't think the modules were that finicky when it comes to detecting frame rates, now I get why some people are super angry about missing out on the last 24hz. Thanks for the clarification!
@@surelock3221 You mean the latest G-Sync Ultimate modules that starts at 24 Hz ? It's indeed a great thing since it's going to work great from 26-ish FPS, instead of 32-ish FPS with a 30 Hz min module. Since a lot of games are (still sadly) locked at 30 FPS, it often means problems (transitions from single to double the frequency). I know that with Freesync, if your Freesync monitor supports Low Framerate Compensation, you can manually increase or decrease the min range to double the refreshrate and then keep the low latency advantage of VRR (for that you need the Custom Resolution Utility third party software), maybe the same can be done with G-Sync ?
I think you're missing the point. This isn't just for gaming, it's also for content creation and to watch 4K HDR10 content with the fidelity the Director intended for its audience. Blu-Ray content, Netflix content, Amazon Prime content, etc. My OLED TV is always being hogged by either my son or my wife, and I end up watching pretty much everything on the computer at much reduced quality. Unfortunately the panels cartel is sandbagging the quality panels from the PC monitors market, and these prices are exorbitant and not even OLED quality!
All the reviews were saying there is Black bleed except one so can u confirm that it does or doesnt have black bleed or its just bad calibration out of the box
Video looks a bit weird, strange colors and all that but we'll be back to normal in a few weeks.
Looks like you're in a futuristic spaceship! I get it's not final, but it looks kinda cool :)
Looks fine mate. Good luck building the new set though 👍😉
love the new look studio, and appreciate the 4K upload to take in that sweet mood lighting
Less is more.
Are there some similar 1440 alternatives that include nice IPS panel, 144Hz (or 120Hz) freesync and such and... are reasonably priced?
I will be honest. I never thought that I would be as interested or educated in monitors as HUB has made me haha. Love the level of detail and insight! Super excited to see how the new house comes along too!
Seriously!! I've also become a monitor nerd now 😂
Bring back the lego or we riot!
Hello mate
Can of WD40 for life
I sprayed all his Lego with WD-40 and it disintegrated. Good news though, I found a quick way to get rid of plastic rubbish.
Yea I said in a vid ages ago to bring back the X-wing, stoopid dumper truck.
Don't know what he means by Lego but I'm here for the riot LOL
At those saying 4k is pointless at 27", you clearly haven't used it. Massive step up from 1440p. Also let's say you get 32", you'll just push the screen back more.
I've been using 4k montiors for about 6 years now and 32 inch is the best size at any desk length. I've used shallow Ikea linnmons and deeper corner desks and I prefer 32" 4k monitors
anything above 27 inch is too big imo
Mientras más pixeles en una pantalla mejor 4k en 27 es impresionante.
Still wating for
32 4k 144hz micro led/Oled freescyn2 hdr 1000 monitor......
gimme that, high quality, in 1440p and without the hdr
You'll be waiting for a long long time. OLED is trash. It looks good but the tech is trash. You can't even dim an OLED display, only flicker more to give the illusion of less brightness.
@@fredfinks the lg 34gk950F m8
144hz
3440x1440
hdr 400 its trash but still
freesync2
nano ips
If you are a middle class guy, start saving for it today. It will probably cost 7000$
@@hinatashoyo2999 Want 1440p. I dont believe 4k is mature enough. Even 2080ti struggles (and a big NO for using non native res) and, more annoyingly, all the screwed up scaling that occurs with various software when you up the scaling to read text. Thats one beauty of 32" 16:9 1440p, exact same dPI as 24" 1080p, which is the defacto size for fonts and windows. Its not the monotrs fault but the myriad of software that cant be unified. I beleive LG does sell a 1440p 144hz moniotr but the unifomrity is a fair amount worse than the very good 32" 60hz samsung i have.
The ideal monitor we are still waiting for: 32 inch, 4K 144hz, freesync 2, HDR 600 or 1000 with FALD...all this for about 1000 bucks.
Ughh, you don’t want past 28 inch monitors (maybe your thinking TV and couch gaming). My last phone was 1440p, and it looked great at its size. I’d want 8k if your going to 32 inches (if your blind you won’t see the difference, and good news for you, because 144 Hz 1440p will make your wallet much happier!)
I’ve got 3x 28 inch 4k monitors, I’d go down to 24 inch if I was only gaming on it (single monitor gaming)
apart from i'd rather gsync I definitely agree, that being said I managed to get an x27 for £1200
I recently upgraded from a 120hz 1080p monitor and I'm loving this 120hz 4k monitor. The HDR mode seems alright to me , but I have never seen "real HDR" before, so I have nothing to compare it to.
I think you should try to make a monitor calibration guide one day.
I would like to see that I feel a little lost in how to approach it
Lo and behold!
Phantasy Star Online in the b-roll. I always knew Tim was a man of culture.
Can't say I was expecting to see that in a HUB video, but I'm happy I did lol.
I like how these monitor reviews touch on different important aspects of the monitor, allowing for a "no bad surprises" buying.
Absolutely great job on these monitor reviews, Tim, I’ve never known I’ve needed an in-depth monitor review until I saw your videos.
Is that Paul Walker in your profile picture?
@@0s0sXD Yes.
@@iBoolGuy R.I.P
Nice to see 120Hz 4K TV's are finally forcing down monitor prices. Just keep in mind this monitor likely still has a 50% mark-up people.... the prices are gonna come down much more than this over the next 12 months...
I'd say this monitor, given its limited size has a nearer 80% mark-up, especially when you consider how much Nvidia makes from the G-sync module!
Would love to see you review the G-sync cousin of this the XB273K. It’s on sale on a number of sites for $999 USD right now and can do HDR and G-sync at the same time. It also has 3 dimming zones according to some reviews. It does have a cooling fan, but without the FALD and its 100W extra power draw it seems to run at tolerable noise levels. Also a number of Nitro buyers reported hideous backlight bleed. The XB being a true G-sync monitor seems to have a bit better quality control.
That's a really clean background, a nice new intro as well.
Getting a house in Aussie..grats as know a lot harder to get one there.
In big cities simple houses cost up to 1m dollars but I love in townsville which is a north Queensland city you'll get a better house for 500,000
I bought one of these 2 days ago (before this review) and i have to say your review is spot on.
It's great to see a review that's unbiased, technically accurate and clearly details the caveats, quirks, hits and misses of the product.
Michael Streeter is the monitor worth a buy?
@@Jar4495 yo lo compre hace 15 dias y estoy mas que contento lo uso con un cable 120hz a 4k y hdr y estoy muy a gusto en verdad contento
nice review, I hope you guys get a chance to review the Acer Nitro VG271UP as well, hard to find much info about it
Interested in the IPS version but not for $999 yet. I got a 2080ti and I’ve been looking at a 4K screen to compliment my PG279Q for less demanding/single-player games.
Going to need 1080Ti in sli or 2080+ in sli to use the full frame rate/refresh rate. I would know after upgrading to 1080Ti sli.
Abraham - I have 2 1080tis, but SLI support isn’t what it used to be. I hop between games a lot and don’t want to mess with setting up custom profiles for other games and stuff to get things working right. My 2080ti is a better overall experience and can do 4K/60 or 1440/144 no problem
@@TechWithSean they've became complacent with their support haven't they
Bastards
Just bought this as an ungrade to my Acer XB270HU (1440p144hzIPS) That I got 4 years ago for around $700. This one went on sale for the same price as my old one and I couldn't pass it up. Certain games really do look amazing (BF1 in particular looks shockingly good). Thanks for a great review leading me to a great purchase.
Bought with the affiliate link because you deserve it 👍
would you recommend this monitor vfx, video (and color) editing work?
Great review. I bought one of these monitors this week. Your review helped me make my mind up to buy it. I'm using it now. Just a couple of things
(1) the power on switch is well hidden at the back of the monitor so don't forget to turn the power switch on (press the button) or it won't start
(2) I have 2 display port cables plugged into (2 x 2080ti NVlink, both cables plugged into same card) and it shows up as 2 monitors in Nvidia control panel. I can't select 144hz mode via OSD or any other way I've tried. It just goes dark and then switches back to 120hz.
(3) I used this to replace a Philips 40inch 4k 60hz monitor and I'm missing the extra size of everything, especially in Battlefield 1. All the targets are tiny. I switched to 1440p yesterday but everything still seemed small. Except I can see the targets from very far away due to the quality of the monitor but can't easily kill them as they're very far away. Is that last ting a catch 22?
To be honest I want the old monitor back.
yo lo acabo de comprar y muy satisfecho hasta el momento no necesito mas de 120hz a 4k para mi no es problema y además se ve espectacular.
Just a thought, did you test the colours with an AMD card and dual DP cables @ 144hz and 10bits or a single cable @ 120hz and 8 bits?
I'm not an expert and just wondering if that would make a difference at all?
Great review I just wanna know if it work well for color grading or not cause I'm not good in a technical info. Thank you so much
cómpralo no te va a defraudar
Did you find any backlight bleeding on your unit? I have an XV273K and the backlight bleeding in some of the corners is severe. Currently battling against Acer support. They initially requested photos and based on the photos accepted the unit for repair. However now they are reneging. Very disappointing given the high-end price of this display.
just ordered one on amazon prime day for $600. Did the backlight issue resolve? Or did they repair/replace it?
So 4K 120hz works over a single cable and with freesync/g-sync?
Correct.
Try tone down the colours a little, most people are going for dark mode for apps
I may actually have to aquire one of these types of monitors in a few years when they actually become affordable. I won't even look at a new monitor for a couple more years, but when I do I hope these are in a range I can actually justify spending. This price is really not bad at all when you consider what you get, but a couple hundred dollars less would really put it in an area I could consider it. In a few years I think it sounds reasonable that it could be at that level. It really depends on if I can afford a graphics card that can game at this level by then, because current GPU pricing is not encouraging.
this monitor is on costco's website for 550
Would be keen to see your review of the Wasabi Mango 43" 4K 120Hz monitor, as technically it the cheapest 4K 120Hz monitor available and has been out the longest as well.
I greatly enjoy your monitor reviews, very good content.
I LOVE your new decor! How modern, simplistic and sweet!
BEAUTIFUL GRADIENT! how DID YOU GET THAT? for the background. i am jealous.
Geez Acer, you almost got my attention. We are getting closer folks! Hopefully by next year these 4K gaming monitors will be more affordable!
So it's really a 120hz SDR monitor to most people... I always vesa mount my monitors so I wish manufacturers would offer they're monitors without a stand ...may be few £ cheaper.
It can run 4K 144Hz with x2 DP with no HDR and FreeSync, but still it's the only one capable of such resolution+refreshrate without chroma subsampling or lowering to 8-bit mode
ha better pray, that they at least keep vesa mounts on monitors, the new upcoming acer 43 inch 144 hz monitor doesn't have a damn vesa mount from the videos i saw, a beyond 1000 dollar monitor, that isn't height adjustable, but has no vesa mount, the worst of all worlds :D
also stands are cheap especially at this class of monitor compared to the display (without stand), meaning u're not saving much to sell one without a stand, u mean u are in the very very small minority of vesa mounting your monitors and having the original stand also increases resell value, if u ever sell the monitor.
i would consider bottom tier monitors coming without a height adjustable stand a bigger crime, if u include a stand, make it one that is useful and healthy at least right???
got this for $450, my unit had very little backlight bleed and I'm overall very happy with my purchase, I'm coming from an Asus PG279Q
from where bro?
@@RahulChavda555 amazon canada had a flash sale for 600 dollars canadian which is 450 USD, sold out in a couple minutes but i got lucky
@@2foolish wow! thanks for the quick response.
I rarely comment on videos I watch. But I really want to say that I love the new clean background. Very soothing and pleases my OCD. I hope you keep this one for good Tim.
would you recommend this monitor for video editing?
Great job! I agree 4K is not quite here yet. 1440p is the best/cheaper option right now. 144hz 4K gaming is 1-2 years out still but we are seeing the HDR light at the end of the tunnel.
Congratulations on the new house
I would really like to see the review of Acer CQ32G1, affordable 144hz 32" 1440p Va monitor. Thank you!
Indeed it would be nice. For 4k you absolutely need a 2080ti/2080 or Vega VII to play..
Are you planning on doing a review for the Lenovo y27gq when it finally comes out? Really looking forward to that one.
Good review, Tim!
They've managed to improve on a lot of things in my view, which makes me hopeful for the future!
First, the dealbreaker was the active cooling on the original units, glad to hear those are gone now.
Second, price is obviously much improved and seems fair now. Impressed.
Third, I couldn't care less about HDR so tbh I'm happy they removed it to obtain a better price point.
What is still a problem for me is the size. I really want this to be 32". 4K on a 27" panel is just too small for me and it becomes annoying with all the old software that doesn't scale well. Maybe I'm a special snowflake, but no, this isn't working for me.
Currently using a 27" Asus PG279Q for gaming and a 43" Acer ET430 for 4K. Ideally I'd like to combine the two. Some day.. :)
I hope you have it now heheh
Hardware unboxed, should I buy the Alienware 34w ultra wide or wait for a proper HDR ultrawide? Not sure what to do, any help would be appreciated
I like idea of using 2 DP cables, as long input lag is not affected. Freesync is anyway useless if goes over 144 hz (max refresherate of given monitor). At least in my case, there I like High Refresh Rates anyway.
So u recomend this one for who owens a xbox one s ? In the I'll buy the new ps5 or the new xbox, so I want to be prepare now, with a monitor which is not too expensive and has 4k, over 60hz and with a quality screen
@tim I think that you don't get how important is HDR even on Fake HDR monitors. When you enable HDR in both monitors and OS you are in a "color managed environment", this save you from oversaturated colors. so no. HDR is really important even on fake HDR monitors and the fact that XV273K lack the possibility to enable HDR with Freesync is a real disadvantage.
Will you guys look at the XB273k as well??? There are some additive features that i would be interested in hearing your opinion on.
nice review, as always!
I would really hope to see the review of Acer Nitro VG270UP, 27" 2k 144hz IPS and most important is affordable around 390 euro in europe
yes this, i've been holding to buying this until a proper review out.
@@arbalestt4590 me too
They've released a new version recently: Acer Nitro XV272U
In India we have this and a similar monitor with 1080p. Vg270p it's called . Ips 144hz 1080p. Can't find any review though
People on amazon are complaining about terrible backlight bleed. Did you notice any on your sample?
The background looks good!
Bought this monitor and looks amazing.
Same here! Went from Asus PG348q to this and omg I love it! Paired with an 3090 FTW3
Hey look, my monitor. Can confirm it's amazing at everything and competes nicely ( not quite as good, but close ) with a dell ultrasharp for colors you really can't go wrong here. it has everything minus the kitchen sink.
How does this compare to the Predator XB3? I am having a hard time figuring out the difference. Basically G-Sync vs FreeSync?
I miss the toilet flush :(.... welcome to your new house Timothy-tim-tim-timtim-taroo.He's got another monitor review for youuuu.
Cual seria mejor el 27gp850 o el xv273k?
You can pick up a PG27UQ for 1200 nowadays..I literally just left a Microcenter and was eyeballing that monitor for like 30 minutes..it is absolutely gorgeous. I was looking at it side by side with my current monitor, ASUS PG279Q (2k, 165hz, IPS), with the same high resolution picture on both, and the difference blew my mind. I couldn't believe it was the same picture.
Can I get a quick opinion on Dell S2719DGF vs Samsung JG50? Thank you!
What would be the best 4k Monitor for the ps5? G-sync / FreeSync or doesnt matter? Is HDR Support important for the ps5?
Gsync wont be supported by consoles, but freesync will because its amd hardware. HDR support will be important yes.
What's great for me with 4K120 is I could game in 1080p (I won't have the hardware for 4K HRF gaming any soon), & video / photo edit in 4K HDR with the same monitor.
The other option is to buy 2 monitors, each having the points I mentioned, & it actually could be cheaper (1080p 144hz monitors are dirt cheap now, & 4K are findable around 400$ )
Was there any mention of the fan noise?
I'm confused did you say this monitor is free sync and works with Nvidia cards?
Did this unit have any backlight blead? I bought the Acer Predator XB273K Pbmiphzx 27, and it had the worst Backlight blead I had ever seen! I was in the market for a 4k 144hz, and that's really all I wanted I didn't need HDR or gsync. Acer had 3 predator models that were 4k 144hz. The x27 for $2000, the Xb273k for $1200, and I think this one for $800 (or one really similar). I saw the reviews on the lower end one and alot of ppl were complaining of Backlight blead so I stayed away from that one and went with the Xb273k. I thought I would save $800 and get a more reasonably priced one. When I got it I all most threw up trying to watch an HDR movie on it, the backlight bleed was so bad it made me nauseous. I didn't buy it for HDR so I played some games on it, it was still horrible! If it was even a slightly dark scene the corners where almost pure white! So I returned it and coughed up the extra money for the x27 because I knew it had local dimming and would have these problems. I like the x27 but it's alot more than I wanted to pay. I got it from the Acer store for $1700 and a 10% off student discount code. So it wasn't the full $2000
Do you own the locations? How do you remove the sound dampening foam
Does this monitor support "black-frame insertion" with freesync?
No monitors support this, and realistically, this is unlikely to happen anytime soon. Consider that adaptive sync technologies will refresh "on demand" or when the GPU sends a new frame to the monitor. Black frame insertion (otherwise known as ULMB) just blacks out the display on every other frame, and the monitor can do this because it has a consistent cadence of when the next frame will be displayed.
Doing both would basically require the GPU to predict when it's 50% done with a frame which then causes the monitor sync and display a black frame and then when it's 100% done to display a regular frame right then and there, but the problem here is that not every video frame takes equally as long to display.
Additionally, consider that black frame insertion does literally reduce the perceived brightness, and when you start mixing in variable length black frames with variable length video frames, you could potentially hit game scenarios where the screen is perceived to dynamically darken/brighten depending on your framerate.
These, among many other reasons, is why ULMB and adaptive sync is a pick 1 situation. Do you want less display persistence but you're ok with screen tearing or reduced screen brightness? Pick ULMB. Do you want no screen tearing? Pick Adaptive sync.
@@GF102463 Thanks for the detailed response. ULMB all the way.
Will this be good for a ps5? Will I have to mess with the settings a bunch once I get this monitor out the box so it can be compatible with the ps5 ?
How does this compare to the ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQ ???
How 'bad' is a cheap big screen tv for monitor or gaming use? e.g. Veon, JVL, Toshiba etc. It may be 'bad', but how bad?
4k 144 hz so to enjoy that you have to get the top end card and even then is it worth it
I did just saw the thumbnail and I have the direct suspicion that it is a TN panel, but in fact it is an IPS panel. Wow!
Using the monitor in 4:4:4 no chroma subsampling with single display port at 120Hz with HDR and GSYNC. To do it you simply need to download the Acer Display Widget and enable HDR from the software, GSYNC and HDR will remain enable with 4:4:4 8bit+frc.
The G2G average is misleading. This monitor has some very slow transitions which make it smear light colors into grey. Smearing is even worse in Freesync because overdrive is locked to normal.
You can't use HDR and Freesync and 144Hz together. At best you get HDR + Freesync @ 120Hz by exploiting a bug in the Acer app, but the experience is not good.
In desktop usage, the dim left and right edge are distracting.
If you have a Nvidia GPU, I highly recommend going for the XB273K which doesn't have the poor overdrive issues.
Can u check VG271U out? Especially response time? Which IPS is the fastest with freesync/g-sync on
I bought a CHG90 yesterday. Sooo dope!
What are the best settings such as colors n stuff for this?
You said last year that HDR certification mattered, and now you said it does not. Why the change?
Hi, I also noticed there are two versions of the Acer Predator X27 and with Gsync. Can you please review that one at about $1300. Thanks.
How are we supposed to know if we've calibrated our monitor properly?
As an owner of the x27 and the asus pq27u for quite some time now. I don't believe they have been 2k for a long time. I didnt pay near 2k for mine and neither do the few people I have recommended them to.
I want to have dual monitors one 240hz and the other 4k60hz both 24-27inches any recommendations?
You should do a video on 4x4GB vs 2x8GB ram for the new gen of intel chips they’ve been released (9900k, 9700k etc)
I’ve seen a few things in the past few weeks thatve made choosing between the two very hard
Well since those chips are due channel only... your only slowing down your memory overclock a ton by stressing the IMC on it and get worse potential when going above the duel channel they can use.
For Threadripper, quad channel is a must, just like duel channel is a must for most chips, but the 9900k just like it’s low PCIe count, has low/normal memory capability.
can you do 144hz if you drop it to 1080p via single cable?
Just loved this background
Help! I just got one for myself but I can't seem to change my refresh rate to anything higher than 60Hz on 4K. I'm currently using one Displayport cable which I believe is all I need, Ive tried a different cable, different port (haven't really tried a different resolution or HDMI 2.0, will check and update, won't be possible for me to try two DP at once since my GPU only has one DP input). Anybody have any ideas?
The monitor needs to be connected to a DisplayPort 1.4 capable GPU with a proper cable.
@@saturnotaku hi you are absolutely correct. I did end up upgrading my graphics card to an RX 5700XT (after 5 years using my R9 390X) and everything is working as intended now.
Cheers!
I'd be quite interested in some reviews of 144Hz 1440p monitors. I'd quite like to get one to replace the old 1050p 60Hz panel I have after I upgrade my PC. But it's hard to compare monitors without physically using them infront of you and looking at the colours and response times etc.
@HB C Oh cool thanks, I'll take a look at their pricing in the UK
I would love to see a comparison of this vs the LG 27GL850 too see if the price difference really is worth anything or if it's just 4K you get extra
So is this 120hz 4k freesync?
So if i only use one display port cable without turning on the hdr I will still get 10bit without chroma sub-sampling 120hz and free sync right?
I FUKCING HATE when the marketing says "144Hz" while it's actually NOT native 144Hz, but native 120Hz overclockable to 144Hz. It should be illegal to market the product this way.
That means not only you are reducing visual quality and lifespan of the monitor, but in adition to that, G-Sync will be limited to 120 Hz max, taking the delta into account to stay in safe VRR range, it means a 115 FPS lock, which often does not align with games that has 30 or 60 FPS animations / physics lock (and sadly there are plenty), meaning the game will be smooth but the animations will stutter a bit constantly. Definitely not the experience you want at that price.
Also, such a monitor at that price ? Something has to be off somewhere.
EDIT : looking at Amazon customers reviews, apparently the panel is very bad and has major backlight bleeding problems.
Why would your max fps be 115? Sorry if it's obvious but I'm kind of new to this
@@surelock3221 no problem mate, the thing with gsync and freesync, is that they operates within a range, lets say in this case 30-120hz, but to know if you are in the low or high extremity of the range, there is a delta of a couple of frames for frametime calculation, so the module know if it has to operate or not. For example, if you play at 160 fps, the module knows it cant operate and you wont have gsync, if you play at 90 fps, the module knows it can operate so you will have gsync, but if you play at 119 fps, its too close to the high extremity of the variable refreshrate range, so the module will constantly enable and disable, or just simply stay disabled, which results in bad stuttering. So to prevent this you limit the framerate to a couple of frames below, to be sure to never hit the gsync delta :)
@@deus_nsf Jesus I didn't think the modules were that finicky when it comes to detecting frame rates, now I get why some people are super angry about missing out on the last 24hz. Thanks for the clarification!
@@surelock3221 You mean the latest G-Sync Ultimate modules that starts at 24 Hz ? It's indeed a great thing since it's going to work great from 26-ish FPS, instead of 32-ish FPS with a 30 Hz min module. Since a lot of games are (still sadly) locked at 30 FPS, it often means problems (transitions from single to double the frequency). I know that with Freesync, if your Freesync monitor supports Low Framerate Compensation, you can manually increase or decrease the min range to double the refreshrate and then keep the low latency advantage of VRR (for that you need the Custom Resolution Utility third party software), maybe the same can be done with G-Sync ?
Can you make a review of the XB273k please?
cool, how much do I need to spend on a computer that can utilize it?
I think you're missing the point. This isn't just for gaming, it's also for content creation and to watch 4K HDR10 content with the fidelity the Director intended for its audience. Blu-Ray content, Netflix content, Amazon Prime content, etc. My OLED TV is always being hogged by either my son or my wife, and I end up watching pretty much everything on the computer at much reduced quality. Unfortunately the panels cartel is sandbagging the quality panels from the PC monitors market, and these prices are exorbitant and not even OLED quality!
@@filipealves6602
Well this doesn't have true HDR so.
Might as well just buy a second tv.
When Thanos snapped his fingers and all of the stuff behind Tim disappeared
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cant wait for lg and asus to get in on this and then for a VA 120 panel to show up
Any chance od reviewing Acer nitro vg271up? Or MSI optix mag271cqr?
All the reviews were saying there is Black bleed except one so can u confirm that it does or doesnt have black bleed or its just bad calibration out of the box
I heard the xb273k is better then the xv273k, why did you guys revieuw the xv version only?
I have the xb273k last year it's shit don't buy it.
is the nitro or predator better for ps5?
my only question would be if the 10 bit color in hdr mode would make any graphical difference in gaming? while using 98 hz refresh rate of course.
Wat paint u use for ur wall?
Could I use this monitor on the Xbox 1 x bc I bought the xb273k monitor and I can't get it to 120 frames bc of the cable it won't connect to my Xbox
27 inch 4k is not useless! I have used a 5k screen at 27 inch and it’s so sharp. 32 inch 4k looks a bit blurry when you look close.
This. Thank you. People just regurgitate what the heard or read somewhere