MiezeMatze666 It ain’t worth it for me anyway when I can hit 200hz at 3440x1440 with a single card sure but for now I’d rather higher refresh from a 16:9 panel. Not a fan of VA either.
@@joeldiramon8538 It's coming in the mail Monday, My goal has been the best HDR, non shitty g-sync monitor on the market and I have been stuck between this and the Neo g9. However the Neo G9 (and pretty much all of the Odyssey Samsung monitors seem to have poor quality control and customer service. The Samsungs seem to have a ton of negative reviews and personally I am not a fan of extreme ultrawides because of how few games are optimized for it, while the Neo G9 has more dimming zones and higher brightness but also doesn't come equiped with G-sync ultimate. Honestly I didn't want to roll the dice on quality and felt that ASUS was a bit more reputable. and since I got it on sale for 1500 ish, it came in a grand cheaper than the Neo G9. Considering this is my first non 60hz monitor I feel I will be blown away. Probably will keep it to 120hz 12 bit color or 144 10 bit I'm not that competitive.
@@joeldiramon8538 Just got mine in the mail Monday, its gorgeous in every aspect, but my biggest criticism isn't the FALD like I thought it was going to be. Due to it being a Full gamut monitor most things in windows appear very warm. While delivering almost perfect blacks that truly blend into the bezel, it seems to have trouble with cooler colors, youtube and steam instead of having a cool grey look are more of a warm grey. Depending on what you are viewing it can sometimes look like a very mild version of the night mode of other monitors. In game and when viewing hdr content it isn't very noticeable. Greens, yellows, oranges, and reds are incredibly vibrant but blues aren't quite as vivid when compared to an OLED. Contrast is incredible, bright bright colors next to dark colors and blacks look fantastic. The haloing is very mild and I can deal with that easily. It all depends on what you are looking for in a monitor. I am blessed by my dank oled TV and the average scmuck might not even notice the warmness of the display. Personally I was envisioning my endgame as having dual of these monitors I think I will end up getting a different secondary monitor for content consumption that doesn't look so warm. Maybe something like the new Samsung QD-OLEDs that will be out eventually if I can find one for a non insane price. (That is if they step up their quality control and customer service, I have seen a ton of quality issues with the new Neo G9's and pretty much all the odyssey monitors)
You still happy with it ??? Bc I'm either getting this to match my rog strix set up . But the 38" 1600p LG is cheaper bigger but not as big as asus 43" strix line.
Man with the chin being that thick Asus could’ve put a IR receiver in it and given us a effing remote so we wouldn’t have to reach around to use the osd.
Kristian Friis dunno if you know, MSI has a fully fledged little app that controls everything in the display, you can do everything the buttons do, from the software.
@@MunkeyChips Yeh, I'd rather have a huge OLED TV and a 34 Inch 144hz ultrawide. By the time you've bought the Asus monitor and a rig with a 2080Ti you'd have to spend up to 5k or more.
Thanks for another fairly detailed monitor review! Not many tech youtubers do that, most just provide a product spec overview with some scant personal impressions. Please keep it up. Looking forward to the EVE Spectrum review when it launches. They're trying to make the "perfect" IPS 1440p/144Hz gaming monitor.
Awesome monitor. I bought it a month ago and haven’t had any issues. I do have the Asus Rog strix 2080ti and games in HDR look gorgeous, run super smooth. The only game in my library that actually hit the 200hz in Ultra settings, is Doom. This game is so optimized and till this date it looks amazing. Highly recommended monitor for serious gamers.
Thank you, Tim. I don't have a spare 2080ti sitting around, but do plan on getting this monitor as soon as I can. Been waiting for a proper HDR monitor with similar specs for a very long time. And, having gone ultrawide a couple of years ago, there's no way I can go back.
@ISOHaven You're just a dumb fanboy. Sure, there is no such thing as a monitor with this specs that costs less. But just like what the other guy said, you're practically saying that companies can sell monitors for 10000000000 million dollars if they can somehow make 16K monitors? Because there's no alternative for that either. The thing is, just because there is no alternative, doesn't mean people cannot complain that a monitor has the price of a small car.
Bought the pg35vq at micro center for 1400 bucks. Paired with my 3080ti I gotta say for a VA panel with hdr 1000, I am impressed. Content looks good and gaming on it is almost a dream.
Can i ask you what about those fans? Never had one of those in a monitor and i read ...not bad things but they are "spinny things" so they cant get noisy...or can you hear them at all?
So... No way of a rtx2080ti pushing above 100-120 on AAA games on ultra. 200hz seems like a waste. I prefer pretty much 144hz and 10-bit HDR. 144hz is fast enough and the colors in this monitor seem outstanding. No point in degrading that to achieve the unachievable.
Depends on the game, graphic quality dosent really matter in very quick paced games where the extra refresh rate is needed, even the GTX 1050Ti can handle 4k CSGO at really high framerates but other games like assasisns creed oddysy, ultra settings 120 fps is all a person would ever want
200Hz causes the desktop to be much smoother. You can tell the difference vs even 144Hz. It's not just about games. And yes, an RTX2080Ti can get over 100FPS on a lot of AAA games. Tomb Raider series, Wolfenstein I and II, Witcher 3, Sniper Elite 4 and many others.
@@photonboy999 Highly doubtful. I bet a paycheck that I could put you in front of a 144hz and a 200hz at the desktop and you couldn't tell the difference. Games, maybe. Desktop, no way.
you are missing the point you won't have to reach the fps to see the benefit of 200hz even if you are only getting 120fps you will notice the difference
We need more 200hz Ultrawides to drive that price down to ~$1200-1500. I really want a replacement for my 100hz Acer X34, but a 44hz jump (often with worse response times and/or black smearing or overshoot) isn't really worth it or justifiable looking at monitors in the $600-1000 range. It's a little crazy to think this monitor has been out almost 2 years and there's very little competition and price has not come down at all, though given the semiconductor shortage I guess it's not that unexpected.
Quick unrelated question, how is it normal to watch movies on a TV? Do most people use the TV itself to load the content? Or should it be hooked up with a PC or an Xbox or something?
The lack of Freesync is a big negative. Considering the premium price, surely they could have also included the open standard so buyers are not only locked into nvidia in the future.
I think you mean "lack of Freesync" but you do have another option if this concerns you. Just look for a GSync Compatible Freesync monitor. NVidia has added a lot of Freesync monitors to its driver support so they work with NVidia cards and obviously work with AMD cards... also, why would they make their GSYNC monitor work with all AMD cards? That kind of defeats the investment they made into the GSYNC MODULE without which we may not have asynchronous monitors at all... we'll get fully open source at some point. Don't worry. But again, NVidia is a business. I dislike walled gardens too but you do have an option as I said, and I think NVidia has every right to do what they want.
@@photonboy999 Yep, that was a double negative. My complaint is the lack of longevity of such an expensive purchase, without Freesync/VESA sync. Some other top end units do/will have support for Freesync and G-Sync and it is a shame it is not included. I suppose if you are paying this much extra just for HDR, and willing to accept the negatives of a VA panel, money is not an issue.
For a little math: 4K 3840x2160 144Hz is 8,29 MegaPixels 3K 3440x1440 200Hz is 4,95 MegaPixels That is ~40% pixel count increase from 3K to 4K while going from 144Hz to 200Hz is rougly ~39% refreshrate increase. So everything is balanced. With 4K you get 40% more pixels for 39% less refreshrate and the opposite for 3K.
And just FYI but DSC (Display Stream Compression) monitors are coming so the more recent cards that support DSC (GTX1000 and above?) will be able to hit the FULL native refresh at 4:4:4 10-bit... I wanted a 4K HDR1000 monitor myself, but I'm not going to pay $2,000+ for one then drop it down to 98Hz. Ugh.
Why would Ultra be required to consider a monitor like this? IMO fps is more important than eyecandy graphics. Hell I even play BF5 on 1440p Low 165hz. Would love a ultrawide monitor though.
Hello I intend to buy Samsung neo g8 and pg35vq monitors Which one would you recommend between these two monitors? I live in a place where I don't understand English, so I couldn't understand what was said in the review. I want this monitor for PC and PS5 Which of these two options would you recommend? Thank you for your advice
should have just stuck with just 1 2080ti ampere is coming in 2020 samsung 7nm euv the big cards hdmi 2.1 and intel and amd the real gpu war starts in 2020
Got tired of waiting and heard rumors of price last year got same monitor you dude in August of 2018 and its been amazing ever since. They are killing themselves at the price they are selling it at. Hell if Alienware did refresh of our monitor with 38-43inch size and 144hz refresh rate with new Gsync module and sell it for say $1499.00 they would make a killing with sales.
I promised I’d get one but having seen the price no chance. That is just crazy. Be sticking with my 1440p 165hz and 4k OLED a little longer it seems. Hopefully prices drop significantly over the next 6 month - 1 year.
so what thats a VA panel? have you seen samsung's qled VA panel in real life next to IPS? its so vibrant, IPS looks like washed out cloth compared to it. even the resolution looks sharper due to no color bleed between pixels.
All IPS panels are limited to around 1000:1 contrast ratio. Unlike VA panels which can reach much much higher contrast. Contrast is the number 1 reason for better picture quality. That’s why all the best TVs use VA and OLED HDR looks awful on IPS.
Should you disable hdr on the monitor if a game doesn’t support hdr? And does non hdr (sdr?) content look any worse on this monitor compared to a monitor that doesn’t support hdr?
Do you guys have any plans on reviewing the new Samsung Double QHD CRG9 Series Curved 49? For some reason no other professional outlet has seem to have done a review on it.
It's a fald monitor, an expensive new technology. Thats like complaining oled is not worth it because other monitors have similar performance but better price
@@Centrioless OLED TVs are as much or cheaper than the high end monitors but BETTER in every way except hdmi 2.1 instead of display port, and maybe being too big.
@@Taoscape c9 has horrible response time. Another thing is oled has some serious burn in issues. I own lg oled E6 and i knw exactly how severe the problem is. The problem will be even worse on pc, because you're gon have a lot of static picture like your wallpaper and windows bar. Fald screen doesnt have the same contrast level like oled (although very close), but it also doesnt share the problem that oled has. For pc monitor, fald is just a better option
@@Centrioless I am not sure where you got the response time from, but all of the reviews that measured response time puts it really low. 6ms at 120hz. Of course as with all tvs, you have to select game mode to buypass the TV processing (which you don't want for PC gaming anyway) Burn in can be a problem, but some simple habit changes are easy enough to do. I always have the Windows bar auto-hide as it is, and I rarely have the same image such as my desktop background up for more than a minute or two.
Got my self AOC AGON AG353UCG for 900£ brand new on sale. Still is on sale in UK on amazon for £1k. Mine arriving tomorrow gonna see what this all about:D
Usually an item that is listed around £2699 would be $2699 USD. This is because in the UK we have tax included in the retail list price where as I am told the US has taxes on top of the purchase price.
Is the fan noise noticeable while on desktop? what about games that are silent, like survival games, but that push the monitor to get hot with all of it's features enabled? thx :)
Have you heard anything about those lenovo 32:10 Monitors that were anounced earlier this year? They were supposed to launche in late April but I haven't heard anything about them since then?
I have it and its NOT that bad I'm surprised people are complaining about it, I love mine. The 2k is great I don't care about HDR. I just want the 200htz
LG monitor already exists and he has a review on it, 34GK950F/G A similar but more expensive display is coming tho, higher size, resolution and refresh rate. 38GL950G.
I hope that this tech basically trickles down to the 300-500 USD eventually. I think the monitor's great, but it will perpetually be outside my budget.
@@atnfn Nah tech moves way quicker that that, 10 years we will be at 16K screens, you will get a screen like this in couple of years cheap enough, you can get something close now for a third of the price, for a VA screen this is overpriced as it is.
What set up do you need to run 4K at 200hz in current games since sli is not well supported and even 2 X 2080 ti dont even get 144hz in 4k to get the full potential of this monitor?
i have this monitor . if you want something close to its performance just go with Samsung g7 32 inch ... i have 3 of those for sim racing and they r just as good as the pg35vq ..have to mention tho .. ive changed 5 different monitors for my sim racing rig .. the Samsung g7 was the best among all of them ... no ghosting at all and they r soooo smooth :)
The price is just too high. Even as an avid PC gamer, $2500 for a ultrawide 3440 x 1440 monitor just to have slightly higher refresh rates and HDR is just not worth paying 3 times the price of a previous generation ultrawide 3440 x 1440 monitor. $1500 would have been reasonable...
Can you do a benchmark of destiny 2 featuring the rtx 2060, 2070, 2080, 2080 ti, 2060 super, 2070 super, 2080 super, radeon 7, and navi? Looking to see how they stack up when compared to the old benchmarks, since im going to build a pc for shadowkeep. Im targeting 4k60 high-highest settings. Oh and feel free to include the 1080 and 1080 ti.
It's not really necessary to redo benchmarks with new cards to get a pretty good idea of performance for Destiny 2. They're going to scale about the same as most other similar games. Expect perhaps a small performance jump so the GTX1080Ti at 4K, highest, smaa gets about 50FPS: www.techpowerup.com/review/destiny-2-beta-benchmark-performance-test/4.html The non-super RTX2080 would be about 30% higher, and the RTX2080Ti about 66% higher than 50FPS... depending on the price the RTX2080 Super or similar might end up the best value... unless NAVI is getting a noticeably higher FPS vs Dollar ratio I'd go with an NVidia RTX2000 series card as NAVI doesn't have RT/Tensor cores which don't benefit much now but they will so again I'd not necessarily assign too much value but I'd assign at least a 10% price difference vs similar performing NAVI cards... I'd not get a card with less than 6GB of VRAM so I'd start with the RTX2070 and up
I *finally* picked one of these up with Microcenter's sale down to $1300. So far it's great with HDR, but SDR seems to be fairly washed out/low contrast. Even compared to my old 2015 Acer X34. I've played around with various settings and can't seem to get something comparable for SDR use which is bothering me a bit. Not sure if there are some recommended settings for SDR use.
The Acer version already fell to $1999 at microcenter before 5% insider discount and Asus version fell to $2299. Winter is coming and so is Black Friday hopefully prices keep dropping.
How can this be better than the LG 34GK950F? That's a wide gamut IPS panel with 1 ms response and native 144hz with Freesync 2 and Gsync compatible. Best of all the worlds- gaming, color accuracy, movies. AND I got it for $799 lol.
@@aberkae They do via HDMI 2.1, not display port.. So to use 4K, 120Hz 4:4:4 you'll need a videocard that supports HDMI 2.1.. The upcoming Nvidia RTX 3000 series will..
You know what else you can get for 3k Euro? A 120hz 4k OLED TV with HDMI 2.1 and no ghosting that, despite the latter, has backlight strobing just in case it's not smoothe enough for you, unlike this monitor.
@@DimitriMoreira just wait 6 months. Although due to much faster pixel response it's not even necessary - that 120hz oled will look same if not smoother than 200 va
@@Liiineeepiiieeeceee VA is a pure shit color accuracy wise. I will only get IPS monitors. LG has the best one right now, with 144hz IPS and FreeSync panel.
I'm glad you touched on the 8 bit + frc. Because I've noticed the same thing. My experience matches yours. But I wonder how frc works with gsync on a technical level. It does work tho.
techreport.com/review/26870/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-g-sync-monitor-reviewed en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither "Nvidia tells us the G-Sync module does its internal processing at 10 bits per color channel. The module then uses a form of temporal dithering called FRC to approximate higher-precision images.."
err... that should have also said "... on the PG278Q's eight-bit panel." So the 10-bit signal comes from the GPU, the GSync module first does all its normal processing, then at the end it converts from 10-bit to 8-bit via temporal dithering before finally outputting the new frame to the LCD panel.
More info here about how Temporal Dithering works: smerity.com/articles/2013/dithering.html If it's alternating between two colors then it must be comparing a new frame to the old frame so that it is able to figure out how to alter the colors to dither. You'd think that would add a little latency but i guess it's minor.
@@photonboy999 I appreciate the information. However, Windows will output an 8 bit + dithering signal. FRC makes sense internally, because the monitor understands the timings of the crystals. But when you throw gsync on top, which gives you variations in frame time and it's windows sending out the signal. That's a whole new level of complexity. I'm wondering if dithering is operating at a separate frequency from the 8 bit signal.
G'day Tim, As always an Awesome Monitor review, just a Question about 'Future Proofing' of monitors, What is the 'life expectancy' of Panels these days especially the Brightness & Contrast of the Pixels over years of use? & would it be better to buy a cheaper 'Lower Spec' Monitor now & Buy this 'Higher Spec' later when they are cheaper, compared to buying now if in 5/10 years these have lower Pixel performance?
Just did a upgrade to my computer and made this monitor part of that upgrade cycle, now that 3080Ti's are readily available and at retail. BTW, I picked this monitor up on Amazon for $1k, what a deal.
I have this monitor and a 2070 Super. It struggles. Looks beautiful but takes some tweaking just get around 100fps on most games. The monitor will outlast several generations of video cards however and each generation you'll be able to push the monitor further and further.
By the way, gsync smooths everything out. There is no stuttering even though I'm typically not even hitting 120fps. I play pretty demanding games though. Something like CSGO won't be an issue.
@@wkndwarrior3532 Those are both IPS. I actually just bought the AW3418DW. It's nice in a lot of ways but the poor contrast and backlight bleed in corners bothers me. On a 16:9 monitor it wouldn't bother me as much as the whole screen is always filled, but on an ultrawide lots of content leaves black bars on the sides and the bleed and greyness really stands out. I'm considering returning it for a Z35P or similar VA panel. I wanted VA from the start honestly but was worried about slow pixel response.
5 years from now, a similar featured display will be $200. :) I bought a 24" LCD 1080p Samsung display for $2400 in 2003. In 2007, I bought a similar display (but with better color quality) on black friday for $200. Ouch.
Price won't drop that quickly. That historical price difference isn't 100% applicable to the situation today. Maybe $500 to $800 for a similar display in five years but not $200.
I've had this monitor for like 24 hours after i returned an ag353ucg after a week . They both had identical dynamic vertical inversion artifacts ( scanlines ) seen in movement causing a low res background image and i am not referring to the initial issue of the flickering/heavy scanline problem . It is completely unacceptable for the price of these monitors and all reviewers should be more careful in examining these artifacts and more because they are completely skipped in reviews. Pc monitors info mentions the above problem in it's x35 review ( again not the flickering / heavy scanline problem that was solved after the updates ) .
The price should have come down, considering how long it has been out and not having display port 2.0/hdmi 2.1. Made my decision to buy a 48 inch lg cx for my upcoming 3090 much easier.
Yeah. I couldn't care less about anything over 100hz, let alone 144hz, when you have variable refresh rate.. The selling point to me, is the image quality. It's a Quantum Dot screen, which the reviewer didn't mention once. Though, the specs are what they are, so whatever, I guess. As long as the viewing angles are good enough and there are no deal breaking quirks compared to an IPS based panel, this should breath quite a lot of life into even regular SDR content. But $2500+ is pretty steep.
The _panel_ inside & it's _capabilities_ has been a long time coming. Same with Acer's Predator X35. I'm either waiting for cheaper Korean variants, without the RGB gimmicks or I'm going for Samsung's C49RG9.
After seeing the reviews of this monitor, it's sure looking like high zone count local area dimming(at least as we presently know it) is a stop-gap technology, not a solution. We really need the more advanced pixel-by-pixel style technologies for local area dimming to truly be 'without asterisk' if you will. When this is the "best of the best", it's clear that REAL HDR is multiple panel generations away from being truly viable as an outright SDR replacement rather than an "optional feature". None the less, this thing is an incredible example of all of today's most advanced mass production viable display technologies
I saw other reviews, but i knew yours would be in a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL. Absolutely top notch review. Unparalleled.
Been waiting for this monitor for 2 years now... I should've started saving.
You should start saving for another 2 years then... 😉
Well 1 month of saving for me but I still wont buy it 😃
Dimitrij Glasow Same but that amount of money for a monitor is just crazy. I’m really hoping prices drop.
Aha, nice 4 you.
We buy it when its available here.
No bla bla... just wtf ;)
MiezeMatze666 It ain’t worth it for me anyway when I can hit 200hz at 3440x1440 with a single card sure but for now I’d rather higher refresh from a 16:9 panel. Not a fan of VA either.
And here it comes,
The ripper of pockets,
Black hole of cash,
Poverty inducer,
Family breaker,
Starvation maker,
The asus PG 35VQ
Failure to rhyme final line with product name 0/10
Lol
Doom
@@formdoggie5 LOL
All the rich kids didnt get this.
Saw the price, I’m out. Great content though.
Theres 100hz version for 700$ i think
Oooooo
No HDR though
The panel will fall to an affordable price eventually. Hopefully it wont be too long
@@prosperitynuggets I would say in about 4-6 months' time. Which is perfect for someone like me that it only now wanting to save up to get this.
Just got this monitor and it does impress, 3090 and 10900k she runs flawlessly. Destroys any other monitor out there still today
I'm about to be your twin same hardware and I just ordered this
@@TheHCPro dude did you get it already. im thinking about it since someone is willing to buy my 38 inch ultrawide. ive never been so much on the fence
@@joeldiramon8538 It's coming in the mail Monday, My goal has been the best HDR, non shitty g-sync monitor on the market and I have been stuck between this and the Neo g9. However the Neo G9 (and pretty much all of the Odyssey Samsung monitors seem to have poor quality control and customer service. The Samsungs seem to have a ton of negative reviews and personally I am not a fan of extreme ultrawides because of how few games are optimized for it, while the Neo G9 has more dimming zones and higher brightness but also doesn't come equiped with G-sync ultimate. Honestly I didn't want to roll the dice on quality and felt that ASUS was a bit more reputable. and since I got it on sale for 1500 ish, it came in a grand cheaper than the Neo G9. Considering this is my first non 60hz monitor I feel I will be blown away. Probably will keep it to 120hz 12 bit color or 144 10 bit I'm not that competitive.
@@joeldiramon8538 Just got mine in the mail Monday, its gorgeous in every aspect, but my biggest criticism isn't the FALD like I thought it was going to be. Due to it being a Full gamut monitor most things in windows appear very warm. While delivering almost perfect blacks that truly blend into the bezel, it seems to have trouble with cooler colors, youtube and steam instead of having a cool grey look are more of a warm grey. Depending on what you are viewing it can sometimes look like a very mild version of the night mode of other monitors. In game and when viewing hdr content it isn't very noticeable. Greens, yellows, oranges, and reds are incredibly vibrant but blues aren't quite as vivid when compared to an OLED. Contrast is incredible, bright bright colors next to dark colors and blacks look fantastic. The haloing is very mild and I can deal with that easily. It all depends on what you are looking for in a monitor. I am blessed by my dank oled TV and the average scmuck might not even notice the warmness of the display. Personally I was envisioning my endgame as having dual of these monitors I think I will end up getting a different secondary monitor for content consumption that doesn't look so warm. Maybe something like the new Samsung QD-OLEDs that will be out eventually if I can find one for a non insane price. (That is if they step up their quality control and customer service, I have seen a ton of quality issues with the new Neo G9's and pretty much all the odyssey monitors)
You still happy with it ???
Bc I'm either getting this to match my rog strix set up . But the 38" 1600p LG is cheaper bigger but not as big as asus 43" strix line.
Great review Tim. Hardware Unboxed monitor reviews are the highest quality available on UA-cam.
Man with the chin being that thick Asus could’ve put a IR receiver in it and given us a effing remote so we wouldn’t have to reach around to use the osd.
@Moto3 oneone This should be standard by now.
At the very least yes... and for the price I would expect a bonus RTX 2070 Super as well.
@@T3chnoJunk13 built into the monitor.
Yeah, all these manufacturers are bullshitting with the buttons!!
Kristian Friis dunno if you know, MSI has a fully fledged little app that controls everything in the display, you can do everything the buttons do, from the software.
Searched everywhere to find a detailed review of this monitor. Glad I came upon this one.
Between this and new GPU prices, my wallet would truly be obliterated. 😢
This is computer hardware we're talking about. Do you still have a wallet? You're a lucky man.
@@DimitriMoreira I grabbed that new Pixio IPS 1440p/95Hz. That's my price range. lol
It's 70 inch TV money lol
@@ags911 And more than 59" 120Hz Freesync HDR TV. I think either that or the 70" would be the better choice, IMO.
@@MunkeyChips Yeh, I'd rather have a huge OLED TV and a 34 Inch 144hz ultrawide. By the time you've bought the Asus monitor and a rig with a 2080Ti you'd have to spend up to 5k or more.
Thanks for another fairly detailed monitor review! Not many tech youtubers do that, most just provide a product spec overview with some scant personal impressions. Please keep it up. Looking forward to the EVE Spectrum review when it launches. They're trying to make the "perfect" IPS 1440p/144Hz gaming monitor.
Awesome monitor. I bought it a month ago and haven’t had any issues. I do have the Asus Rog strix 2080ti and games in HDR look gorgeous, run super smooth. The only game in my library that actually hit the 200hz in Ultra settings, is Doom. This game is so optimized and till this date it looks amazing. Highly recommended monitor for serious gamers.
2 years later any regrets ?
Thank you, Tim. I don't have a spare 2080ti sitting around, but do plan on getting this monitor as soon as I can. Been waiting for a proper HDR monitor with similar specs for a very long time. And, having gone ultrawide a couple of years ago, there's no way I can go back.
The price of this monitor is beyond ridiculous.
@ISOHaven So if the price was a million dollars, would that still be OK because there wasn't anything cheaper?
@ISOHaven OK, I'll try to use my brain, but you need to try and get a brain.
@ISOHaven
You're just a dumb fanboy.
Sure, there is no such thing as a monitor with this specs that costs less. But just like what the other guy said, you're practically saying that companies can sell monitors for 10000000000 million dollars if they can somehow make 16K monitors? Because there's no alternative for that either.
The thing is, just because there is no alternative, doesn't mean people cannot complain that a monitor has the price of a small car.
Somanithel Kheang If you cannot afford it, buy something else.
If you cannot afford the lambo, buy a honda civic. Get lost lul
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LG's 27" 1440p 144Hz Nano IPS monitor is now available for preorder in USA for $500 and will arrive at 9th of August
Too small. 32" for 16:9 or 34-35" for 21:9
@@fredfinks thats your personal preference. to me 27" 1440p is great
What's its name ?
Do you have a model name for me?
27" makes text too tiny...need at least 32" for 1440p
THIS, THIS is why I got a cheap-ass 100Hz ultrawide mid 2018! I was waiting for this big bastard!
Bought the pg35vq at micro center for 1400 bucks. Paired with my 3080ti I gotta say for a VA panel with hdr 1000, I am impressed. Content looks good and gaming on it is almost a dream.
Can i ask you what about those fans? Never had one of those in a monitor and i read ...not bad things but they are "spinny things" so they cant get noisy...or can you hear them at all?
@@richardhasek5859I'll have that monitor and I never hear the fan. Literally silent.
So... No way of a rtx2080ti pushing above 100-120 on AAA games on ultra. 200hz seems like a waste. I prefer pretty much 144hz and 10-bit HDR. 144hz is fast enough and the colors in this monitor seem outstanding. No point in degrading that to achieve the unachievable.
Depends on the game, graphic quality dosent really matter in very quick paced games where the extra refresh rate is needed, even the GTX 1050Ti can handle 4k CSGO at really high framerates but other games like assasisns creed oddysy, ultra settings 120 fps is all a person would ever want
200Hz causes the desktop to be much smoother. You can tell the difference vs even 144Hz. It's not just about games. And yes, an RTX2080Ti can get over 100FPS on a lot of AAA games. Tomb Raider series, Wolfenstein I and II, Witcher 3, Sniper Elite 4 and many others.
@@photonboy999 Highly doubtful. I bet a paycheck that I could put you in front of a 144hz and a 200hz at the desktop and you couldn't tell the difference. Games, maybe. Desktop, no way.
you are missing the point you won't have to reach the fps to see the benefit of 200hz even if you are only getting 120fps you will notice the difference
@ISOHaven thats a legit statement dude. productivity is really improved with higher hz monitor. im getting this monitor purely because its 200hz.
Hey Tim im waiting for your review on the new Samsung CRG9 before i make a purchasing decision , when can we expect the review ?
some youtubers already have reviews posted its a good panel based from what I have seen
@@ployth9000 im looking for one of my trusted source for this review, is an expensive monitor.
Just bought Asus pg348q for AU$1049 in Australia. Very happy with my purchase and IPS panel. 👍
Yeah I had Acer x35 basically same as this. I much prefer ips of my pg348q git fir $230 last week on offer up
We need more 200hz Ultrawides to drive that price down to ~$1200-1500. I really want a replacement for my 100hz Acer X34, but a 44hz jump (often with worse response times and/or black smearing or overshoot) isn't really worth it or justifiable looking at monitors in the $600-1000 range. It's a little crazy to think this monitor has been out almost 2 years and there's very little competition and price has not come down at all, though given the semiconductor shortage I guess it's not that unexpected.
Quick unrelated question, how is it normal to watch movies on a TV?
Do most people use the TV itself to load the content? Or should it be hooked up with a PC or an Xbox or something?
great review tim. feel so beyond vindicated for grabbing my samsung c34j791 on sale for £450 a couple of months ago
The lack of Freesync is a big negative. Considering the premium price, surely they could have also included the open standard so buyers are not only locked into nvidia in the future.
David Frisken speak up
I think you mean "lack of Freesync" but you do have another option if this concerns you. Just look for a GSync Compatible Freesync monitor. NVidia has added a lot of Freesync monitors to its driver support so they work with NVidia cards and obviously work with AMD cards... also, why would they make their GSYNC monitor work with all AMD cards? That kind of defeats the investment they made into the GSYNC MODULE without which we may not have asynchronous monitors at all... we'll get fully open source at some point. Don't worry. But again, NVidia is a business. I dislike walled gardens too but you do have an option as I said, and I think NVidia has every right to do what they want.
@@photonboy999 Yep, that was a double negative. My complaint is the lack of longevity of such an expensive purchase, without Freesync/VESA sync. Some other top end units do/will have support for Freesync and G-Sync and it is a shame it is not included. I suppose if you are paying this much extra just for HDR, and willing to accept the negatives of a VA panel, money is not an issue.
Very nice and detailed review, if I had any money I'd support your channel
For a little math:
4K 3840x2160 144Hz is 8,29 MegaPixels
3K 3440x1440 200Hz is 4,95 MegaPixels
That is ~40% pixel count increase from 3K to 4K while going from 144Hz to 200Hz is rougly ~39% refreshrate increase.
So everything is balanced. With 4K you get 40% more pixels for 39% less refreshrate and the opposite for 3K.
And just FYI but DSC (Display Stream Compression) monitors are coming so the more recent cards that support DSC (GTX1000 and above?) will be able to hit the FULL native refresh at 4:4:4 10-bit... I wanted a 4K HDR1000 monitor myself, but I'm not going to pay $2,000+ for one then drop it down to 98Hz. Ugh.
fantastic review, comprehensive and well presented. Thanks !
Unless u run 4x rtx 2080ti i doubt u will see those 200 frames on ultra.
True Casual Not unless it’s a less intensive game.. CS:GO.. Overwatch, etc..
@@TheMasterOfSafari why would you buy this monitor to play competitive games. The monitor has shit response time and heavy ghosting
Why would Ultra be required to consider a monitor like this?
IMO fps is more important than eyecandy graphics. Hell I even play BF5 on 1440p Low 165hz.
Would love a ultrawide monitor though.
@@SpeedRebirth I hope at least you have textures on Ultra as they affect not fps but the amount of used VRAM
I think cpus Will bottleneck no martes what in triple a games
Still the best intro on UA-cam
Hello
I intend to buy Samsung neo g8 and pg35vq monitors
Which one would you recommend between these two monitors?
I live in a place where I don't understand English, so I couldn't understand what was said in the review.
I want this monitor for PC and PS5
Which of these two options would you recommend? Thank you for your advice
I'm deciding to get this or two ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 27" what should I choose?
Over a year later, any contenders or price drops?
its worth more than my car
Shame shame shame ....🔔🔔🔔
I don't own a car either!
I spent more on my pc than I did my car
Come on Asus! Hurry up! I got my second 2080 Ti and NVLink ROG waiting for this beast. Can't wait any longer.
should have just stuck with just 1 2080ti ampere is coming in 2020 samsung 7nm euv the big cards hdmi 2.1 and intel and amd the real gpu war starts in 2020
The 55” LG C9 is now G-Sync compatible, so your point about getting that plus another monitor for non-gaming tasks is even stronger now
Excellent video thanks. Trying to decide between this and the LG 38GL950G-B
get the LG i did and its much cheaper and still an amazing monitor
Wow not impressive at all for the price. I'm glad* I gave up waiting on this one and got the Alienware AW3418DW
Yep, this monitor isn't worth the money. I'm glad I got the x34 instead.
Same, I will keep my Acer X34P a little longer. The upcoming 38 inch LG looks nice
Got tired of waiting and heard rumors of price last year got same monitor you dude in August of 2018 and its been amazing ever since. They are killing themselves at the price they are selling it at. Hell if Alienware did refresh of our monitor with 38-43inch size and 144hz refresh rate with new Gsync module and sell it for say $1499.00 they would make a killing with sales.
@@dustinr26 absolutely, I agree. $2600 USD F.O.H
I have pg348q which is ips and still nice just only 100 hz but if u play console for a few days at 25 to 60 hz then it feels great at 100 lol
Just bought myself a Samsung C49HG90. No buyer’s remorse here. Great monitor for me, a GTX 1060 owner saving up for a new graphics card...
Thats indeed an amazing monitor. The wow factor cant be beaten
Always with the great monitor reviews! By chance, have you heard news on Asus's BFGD?
I promised I’d get one but having seen the price no chance. That is just crazy. Be sticking with my 1440p 165hz and 4k OLED a little longer it seems. Hopefully prices drop significantly over the next 6 month - 1 year.
will stick to the CRG9
$2600 for a monitor...with a VA panel.
..bite the big-one, Asus.
Glad it's not that much in US dollars
so what thats a VA panel?
have you seen samsung's qled VA panel in real life next to IPS? its so vibrant, IPS looks like washed out cloth compared to it. even the resolution looks sharper due to no color bleed between pixels.
All IPS panels are limited to around 1000:1 contrast ratio. Unlike VA panels which can reach much much higher contrast. Contrast is the number 1 reason for better picture quality. That’s why all the best TVs use VA and OLED HDR looks awful on IPS.
Beautiful monitor with awesome specs. Love Asus but I believe this one is way over marked in price. I also think it is marked up based on popularity.
Should you disable hdr on the monitor if a game doesn’t support hdr? And does non hdr (sdr?) content look any worse on this monitor compared to a monitor that doesn’t support hdr?
Do you guys have any plans on reviewing the new Samsung Double QHD CRG9 Series Curved 49? For some reason no other professional outlet has seem to have done a review on it.
Four years later, is this monitor still as good as it sounds? (its 1000$CA at the moment...)
yes i got it on ebay for 500 bucks and its worth every penny
It’s awesome but the price vs it’s close competitors is shameful. There are several monitors very very close for 1/3 of the price.
It's a fald monitor, an expensive new technology. Thats like complaining oled is not worth it because other monitors have similar performance but better price
There are better TVs for less price. LG C9 OLED for example.
@@Centrioless OLED TVs are as much or cheaper than the high end monitors but BETTER in every way except hdmi 2.1 instead of display port, and maybe being too big.
@@Taoscape c9 has horrible response time.
Another thing is oled has some serious burn in issues. I own lg oled E6 and i knw exactly how severe the problem is.
The problem will be even worse on pc, because you're gon have a lot of static picture like your wallpaper and windows bar.
Fald screen doesnt have the same contrast level like oled (although very close), but it also doesnt share the problem that oled has.
For pc monitor, fald is just a better option
@@Centrioless I am not sure where you got the response time from, but all of the reviews that measured response time puts it really low. 6ms at 120hz. Of course as with all tvs, you have to select game mode to buypass the TV processing (which you don't want for PC gaming anyway)
Burn in can be a problem, but some simple habit changes are easy enough to do. I always have the Windows bar auto-hide as it is, and I rarely have the same image such as my desktop background up for more than a minute or two.
Best review. Imma try to get this monitor
Do you think we will see many 1440p HDR10 Curved monitors this year? (or would have seen, depending how the virus affects things)
Got my self AOC AGON AG353UCG for 900£ brand new on sale. Still is on sale in UK on amazon for £1k. Mine arriving tomorrow gonna see what this all about:D
Usually an item that is listed around £2699 would be $2699 USD. This is because in the UK we have tax included in the retail list price where as I am told the US has taxes on top of the purchase price.
Nice video on the monitor. You can get this new in the UK for £1800 now. Where did the Sand crawler come from please?
Hi where in the uk ?
@@mopewoodie368 Sorry it was on special offer from Amazon, but the price has gone back up :(
@@kevfarny4082 thanks Kev I’ll keep an eye out for it in case it drops again
@@mopewoodie368 OK np, I think PC World had it too. But now out of stock.
2,500 USD ... hahahahahahaha no.
Is the fan noise noticeable while on desktop? what about games that are silent, like survival games, but that push the monitor to get hot with all of it's features enabled? thx :)
Have you heard anything about those lenovo 32:10 Monitors that were anounced earlier this year? They were supposed to launche in late April but I haven't heard anything about them since then?
I have it and its NOT that bad I'm surprised people are complaining about it, I love mine. The 2k is great I don't care about HDR. I just want the 200htz
when will it be available at the US stores ?
Can we get a review of the LG 38gl950g please and compare it to this.
What are the models of the upcoming LG and MSI monitors that you mentioned please. Thank you for the great video.
LG monitor already exists and he has a review on it, 34GK950F/G
A similar but more expensive display is coming tho, higher size, resolution and refresh rate. 38GL950G.
I'm kinda surprised you haven't tested the Nixeus EDG27 v2. I would love to see a review on this.
I hope that this tech basically trickles down to the 300-500 USD eventually. I think the monitor's great, but it will perpetually be outside my budget.
Maybe in 10-15 years, and by then it will be outdated.
FALD backlighting is just expensive at this point in time.
@@atnfn
Nah tech moves way quicker that that, 10 years we will be at 16K screens, you will get a screen like this in couple of years cheap enough, you can get something close now for a third of the price, for a VA screen this is overpriced as it is.
What set up do you need to run 4K at 200hz in current games since sli is not well supported and even 2 X 2080 ti dont even get 144hz in 4k to get the full potential of this monitor?
i have this monitor . if you want something close to its performance just go with Samsung g7 32 inch ... i have 3 of those for sim racing and they r just as good as the pg35vq ..have to mention tho .. ive changed 5 different monitors for my sim racing rig .. the Samsung g7 was the best among all of them ... no ghosting at all and they r soooo smooth :)
Think I'll buy one to go along with my new rog strix 3080.
great review I plan on getting this in a year or two when then price goes down
My question is does it look better than an ips with the same resolution in games?
Very good video!
The price is just too high. Even as an avid PC gamer, $2500 for a ultrawide 3440 x 1440 monitor just to have slightly higher refresh rates and HDR is just not worth paying 3 times the price of a previous generation ultrawide 3440 x 1440 monitor. $1500 would have been reasonable...
Acer was suppose to have a version of this monitor as well. Same panel. I'd be interested to see what price they ask for when it releases.
Can you do a benchmark of destiny 2 featuring the rtx 2060, 2070, 2080, 2080 ti, 2060 super, 2070 super, 2080 super, radeon 7, and navi? Looking to see how they stack up when compared to the old benchmarks, since im going to build a pc for shadowkeep.
Im targeting 4k60 high-highest settings.
Oh and feel free to include the 1080 and 1080 ti.
It's not really necessary to redo benchmarks with new cards to get a pretty good idea of performance for Destiny 2. They're going to scale about the same as most other similar games. Expect perhaps a small performance jump so the GTX1080Ti at 4K, highest, smaa gets about 50FPS: www.techpowerup.com/review/destiny-2-beta-benchmark-performance-test/4.html
The non-super RTX2080 would be about 30% higher, and the RTX2080Ti about 66% higher than 50FPS... depending on the price the RTX2080 Super or similar might end up the best value... unless NAVI is getting a noticeably higher FPS vs Dollar ratio I'd go with an NVidia RTX2000 series card as NAVI doesn't have RT/Tensor cores which don't benefit much now but they will so again I'd not necessarily assign too much value but I'd assign at least a 10% price difference vs similar performing NAVI cards... I'd not get a card with less than 6GB of VRAM so I'd start with the RTX2070 and up
Can you review the Asus PG279QZ next please? Great video btw!
I *finally* picked one of these up with Microcenter's sale down to $1300. So far it's great with HDR, but SDR seems to be fairly washed out/low contrast. Even compared to my old 2015 Acer X34. I've played around with various settings and can't seem to get something comparable for SDR use which is bothering me a bit. Not sure if there are some recommended settings for SDR use.
Do AMD gpu's work with g sync? Can't get any of the new rtx 30 cards :(
The Acer version already fell to $1999 at microcenter before 5% insider discount and Asus version fell to $2299. Winter is coming and so is Black Friday hopefully prices keep dropping.
How can this be better than the LG 34GK950F? That's a wide gamut IPS panel with 1 ms response and native 144hz with Freesync 2 and Gsync compatible. Best of all the worlds- gaming, color accuracy, movies. AND I got it for $799 lol.
Lg's contrast ratio is around 1000:1. And its HDR implementation sucks. Doesn't justify the high price of the Asus though
I'd rather an LG OLED TV for that price. 4K, 120Hz and ultra low input lag.
I've been gaming on my 4k HDR tv for a year now. I love it, I can't go back to a monitor with crappy or no HDR
i was thinking about getting an lg 88 inch led tv and sit like 2m in front of it. they go for about 2,7k euros in germany...
Does it have display port 1.4 support or true 4k 4:4:4 at 120hz signal input?
@@aberkae They do via HDMI 2.1, not display port.. So to use 4K, 120Hz 4:4:4 you'll need a videocard that supports HDMI 2.1.. The upcoming Nvidia RTX 3000 series will..
And a health bar burnt in.
You know what else you can get for 3k Euro? A 120hz 4k OLED TV with HDMI 2.1 and no ghosting that, despite the latter, has backlight strobing just in case it's not smoothe enough for you, unlike this monitor.
If only it were a 8k 180hz OLED... Gotta future-proof. /s
Asus is a fucking joke. A monitor for 3k USD is just ridiculous. In 3 months it will cost at most 2K.
@@madd5 hopefully. The 4k clusterfuck didn't follow that pattern
@@DimitriMoreira just wait 6 months. Although due to much faster pixel response it's not even necessary - that 120hz oled will look same if not smoother than 200 va
@@Liiineeepiiieeeceee VA is a pure shit color accuracy wise. I will only get IPS monitors.
LG has the best one right now, with 144hz IPS and FreeSync panel.
Worth upgrade over LG 34GK950F?
I'm glad you touched on the 8 bit + frc. Because I've noticed the same thing. My experience matches yours. But I wonder how frc works with gsync on a technical level. It does work tho.
techreport.com/review/26870/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-g-sync-monitor-reviewed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither
"Nvidia tells us the G-Sync module does its internal processing at 10 bits per color channel. The module then uses a form of temporal dithering called FRC to approximate higher-precision images.."
err... that should have also said "... on the PG278Q's eight-bit panel." So the 10-bit signal comes from the GPU, the GSync module first does all its normal processing, then at the end it converts from 10-bit to 8-bit via temporal dithering before finally outputting the new frame to the LCD panel.
More info here about how Temporal Dithering works: smerity.com/articles/2013/dithering.html
If it's alternating between two colors then it must be comparing a new frame to the old frame so that it is able to figure out how to alter the colors to dither. You'd think that would add a little latency but i guess it's minor.
@@photonboy999 I appreciate the information. However, Windows will output an 8 bit + dithering signal. FRC makes sense internally, because the monitor understands the timings of the crystals.
But when you throw gsync on top, which gives you variations in frame time and it's windows sending out the signal. That's a whole new level of complexity. I'm wondering if dithering is operating at a separate frequency from the 8 bit signal.
Does using it at 200Hz increase input lag because you have to overclock it to get it to that refresh rate?
G'day Tim,
As always an Awesome Monitor review, just a Question about 'Future Proofing' of monitors,
What is the 'life expectancy' of Panels these days especially the Brightness & Contrast of the Pixels over years of use?
& would it be better to buy a cheaper 'Lower Spec' Monitor now & Buy this 'Higher Spec' later when they are cheaper, compared to buying now if in 5/10 years these have lower Pixel performance?
Just did a upgrade to my computer and made this monitor part of that upgrade cycle, now that 3080Ti's are readily available and at retail. BTW, I picked this monitor up on Amazon for $1k, what a deal.
How was the monitor after 3 weeks? I was planning on getting it.
What frames can I expect with this monitor on a 1080ti? Let's say Destiny 2, Modern Warfare/Warzone, and/or GTA Online.
I have this monitor and a 2070 Super. It struggles. Looks beautiful but takes some tweaking just get around 100fps on most games. The monitor will outlast several generations of video cards however and each generation you'll be able to push the monitor further and further.
By the way, gsync smooths everything out. There is no stuttering even though I'm typically not even hitting 120fps. I play pretty demanding games though. Something like CSGO won't be an issue.
@@reviewyourownadventure2083 thank you for the reply! I ended up buying this monitor a couple weeks after commenting and love it
So what is the next best ultrawide monitor, like under $1200? Both for VA and IPS, what would be the top two?
AW3418DW and LG UltraGear 34GK950F-B
@@wkndwarrior3532 Those are both IPS. I actually just bought the AW3418DW. It's nice in a lot of ways but the poor contrast and backlight bleed in corners bothers me. On a 16:9 monitor it wouldn't bother me as much as the whole screen is always filled, but on an ultrawide lots of content leaves black bars on the sides and the bleed and greyness really stands out. I'm considering returning it for a Z35P or similar VA panel. I wanted VA from the start honestly but was worried about slow pixel response.
5 years from now, a similar featured display will be $200. :)
I bought a 24" LCD 1080p Samsung display for $2400 in 2003. In 2007, I bought a similar display (but with better color quality) on black friday for $200. Ouch.
Price won't drop that quickly. That historical price difference isn't 100% applicable to the situation today. Maybe $500 to $800 for a similar display in five years but not $200.
It's only 1999$ on B&H now, totally worth it :)
so with 180Hz factory setting AND FALD enabled the panel should match the needed response time?
i would like to know how much the bling costs?
I've had this monitor for like 24 hours after i returned an ag353ucg after a week . They both had identical dynamic vertical inversion artifacts ( scanlines ) seen in movement causing a low res background image and i am not referring to the initial issue of the flickering/heavy scanline problem . It is completely unacceptable for the price of these monitors and all reviewers should be more careful in examining these artifacts and more because they are completely skipped in reviews. Pc monitors info mentions the above problem in it's x35 review ( again not the flickering / heavy scanline problem that was solved after the updates ) .
I know most people can't afford it but thanks for the review
The price should have come down, considering how long it has been out and not having display port 2.0/hdmi 2.1. Made my decision to buy a 48 inch lg cx for my upcoming 3090 much easier.
Hey! Can you review the AOC AG273QCX?
Can you maybe please re-test this monitor with your new equipment and benchmarks? Maybe even just add links to the results to the description.
So...when is the release exactly?
Yeah. I couldn't care less about anything over 100hz, let alone 144hz, when you have variable refresh rate.. The selling point to me, is the image quality. It's a Quantum Dot screen, which the reviewer didn't mention once. Though, the specs are what they are, so whatever, I guess. As long as the viewing angles are good enough and there are no deal breaking quirks compared to an IPS based panel, this should breath quite a lot of life into even regular SDR content. But $2500+ is pretty steep.
Any plans to review the Apple monitor even if it’s terrible for games? And maybe a separate video just for the stand.
We'd have to buy one, probably need a few more Patreon members for that ;)
A very precise title.
The _panel_ inside & it's _capabilities_ has been a long time coming. Same with Acer's Predator X35. I'm either waiting for cheaper Korean variants, without the RGB gimmicks or I'm going for Samsung's C49RG9.
Picked up a Samsung for C34J791 for $850 instead. 100hz is enough for me and I need great blacks and colors for productivity.
Me: sees title and gets excited then see the price tag *closes video * . Seriously fuck off Asus ,will you ever be competitive with your pricing .
After seeing the reviews of this monitor, it's sure looking like high zone count local area dimming(at least as we presently know it) is a stop-gap technology, not a solution. We really need the more advanced pixel-by-pixel style technologies for local area dimming to truly be 'without asterisk' if you will.
When this is the "best of the best", it's clear that REAL HDR is multiple panel generations away from being truly viable as an outright SDR replacement rather than an "optional feature".
None the less, this thing is an incredible example of all of today's most advanced mass production viable display technologies