That is vandalism. You should have physically stopped her, and called the police. Or at least threatened to call the police. This was in Australia right? Do your fucking duty as a human being... It is really sad when ordinary people do fuck all to protect freedom of speech...
She is tearing down posters IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. She's a guest in Australia and that means she must respect their free speech not enforce her censorship
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What's scary is that all these ostensibly Western, democratically-aligned countries, no longer have the rights they once believed in for all people. What happened during COVID to Australia and Canada? They weren't exactly anti-authoritarian paradises before... But now they have gone full China. Even America has become so intermingled between the media and the government. Every station is broadcasting... Not necessarily outright lies, but they do signal-boost convenient information.
@@LaneVermilion Roman Catholicism through the Jesuits and Satan have taken control of the Earth. They control China and have controlled them for centuries,. Mao was a Vatican puppet, just like Xi, Trudeau, Biden, Trump, Pelosi, Newsom, Hochul, Abbott, DeSantis, Boris Johnson(England), Emmanuel Macron(France), Antonio Guterres(Sec.General United Nations), etc. The Earth is being taken over by the Jesuits and their coadjutors who run businesses, religion, sports, media, education, medicine and politics. Where do we go? To the Creator and Redeemer Jesus Christ. It is time to welcome Him into your heart, mind, and soul, trust Him and love Him and He will save you, for all eternity! "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me," the Words of Jesus Christ found in John 14:6. He is not a liar, Satan is and Satan will be thrown into the Lake of Fire with many who follow the antichrist. Don't follow the antichrist Pope, freedom is in Jesus Christ alone! Maranatha!
The world being China's property and the idea of being protected by another's laws while in residency there doesn't apply to these people. And not enough universities stand up to them and remind them of the law.
*_Very old joke from the times when Poland was communist: Peoples Republic of Poland constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but doesn't guarantee freedom after speech._*
She was like "I want to show my freedom" while at the same time ripping off other people's freedoms. Her stubbornness and lack of common sense were just off the charts
@@johnharris1360 children in their mind. Don't be fooled by their age. I've met people that are 70 years old but still 14 year old scared little child in the mind
@@johnharris1360 The "child" means an ignorant state of being .Remember this was written thousands of years ago. Regarding the present times, my nine year old grandson sometimes knows more than me.
These Mainland Chinese students act like toddlers throwing a temper tantrum when they don't get their way. This particular woman is lucky to be dealing with someone that's so patient.
@@gladiammgtow4092 there’s such a difference from chinese that escape china vs high social credit rich kid chinese going overseas. the latter is insane. the former are great people trying to protect the west.
'These Mainland Chinese students act like toddlers' as a musician I have noted a tone of voice - shrill - I call asperity - which comes from someone who knows something is unfair, but they want to try to protect themselves first so will shriek against the situation. that's what I heard from the first female in this video - that high pitched asperity - she knew what she was doing was wrong, but felt compelled to do it for her own survival and fears for herself and her loved ones i.e. her family back in China who could get disappeared if she didn't do what the CCP wanted her to do.
The guy who filmed this girl handled it incredibly good. Just documenting, letting her do, asking open ended question, not getting provoced. Absolutely stellar.
that is because everyone knows those posters are full of lies. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
Bro, I know this is totally unrelated, but I need to get this off my shoulders. I went to my doctors appointment today, and found out that it was supposed to be for tomorrow... I made the trip and back, and now I gotta do it all over again tomorrow.
@Fellow Æthelweard ... what? I'm not pro right or left or anything... I'm not American. All I said was that the quote source was incorrect. Wasn't even speaking to you. Your enemy is you yourself for not being able to read properly.
As a Chinese person grew up in Beijing, I remember 20 years ago when I left China to study overseas, I felt shocked when I heard criticism about my government, I took it very personally. I defended my government, and chose not to believe anything. As I spent more time to listen, reflect, and searched different resources, I realized how naive and close-minded I was. Brainwash in China started ever since we were born. Our parents, our teachers, everyone around us went through the same system, we think the Chinese government is Chinese people, is the country we love. We are educated to absolutely love the leader and the government, to worship them. They are not reachable. They are special. If anyone says anything bad about our government, that's same as our country and our people, that's an insult, that's a lie. As I become more mature, and think more independently, I don't think highly about the Chinese government anymore. The people who work for them are just doing their jobs and make a living. There are fears to speak the truth, maybe one day, when everyone in China can have true freedom of speech, have real people-elected democratic government, can access all the website like everyone else in the world, then China will be progressing in the right direction, I hope that day will come eventually.
thank you for your story - yes we are all brainwashed by our cultural beliefs we grew up with. 40% of US folk apparently think Putin is a good guy for invading Ukraine because DJT said so.
@@ultimobile You know Russian messaging has failed when even Fox news have now done a 180 degree turn, but Trump fanatics - after *years* of pandering to Putin - now suddenly blame Putins actions on Trump *not* being president 🤦🏼♀️
@@ultimobile ever heard about NATO. Try seeing some details about them creating war then look at the actions against Russia. And stop blindly believing everything you've been told to believe, by media propaganda. How about you look at the cause of deaths in Ukraine in 2014 and since then. Fk some people are willfully blind and no idea of the backstory America has played in all this. Bet you've got no idea about the 13+ bio-labs either.
He's not a wolf warrior. That kind of behavior gets you nowhere. I don't think they know the proverb about catching flies with honey instead of vinegar. Perhaps it doesn't translate.
@United Provinces of Planet Earth please don't take this the wrong way. Please don't learn English from rappers or pop culture. Speaking like that makes you sound ignorant. I am sure that's not how you want people to see you.
@Realbobo hes probably speaking to other Canadians or maybe the entirety of North America. Either way, as a U.S. citizen in a state connected to Canada, I agree with him
As far as I remember The university had so much Chinese influence, the guy (Drew) got suspended and had to fight in court to be able to return to his studies.
@@elanor2123 It was a couple of years ago during a human rights protest and a HK pro democracy protest. Chinese students caused an altercation with him and fists went flying
"Ah, the Tienanmen Massacre happened so long ago, why do you care about that?" The Rape of Nanjing also happened so long ago, why do you (as in the Chinese ultra-nationalists) care about that? The double standards here are staggering.
That's inconsistent, but let's admit that a WW2 massacre which killed millions is a thousand times more significant than a street battle that killed a few hundred, or maybe a couple thousand (depending on whose estimate you believe)... many police and military people were hurt or killed in the vicinity of Tianananmen Square--there was violence from all sides.
I live in New York City. I met one of these college-age Chinese nationalists. A pretty young woman, in her early 20’s I guess. She was working as an intern on a film shoot on which I was a crew person (it was part of her American university experience, apparently). She was assigned to assist me on set. Our conversation somehow turned to politics, specifically regarding the takeover of Hong Kong. What a surprise! I had never encountered this breed of vulgar human being before. Because she was an international student, and because we were working in a creative industry where most people are liberal, I made the mistake of expecting her to sympathize with the protesters in Hong Kong who were being brutalized for defending their democracy. But NO! Her response was to say those people in Hong Kong deserve it because they should know to obey. Huh? I did a double take. But it only got worse from there. Eventually she let loose with the entire gamut: arrogant Americans don’t know anything about what’s really happening in China. China has the strongest economy, the best luxury goods and the greatest real estate market in the world. Tianamen Square never happened, it was made up by the West to malign China and the video evidence of it was all staged. Americans think their “freedom” is so great, but you are not really free in America, blah blah blah. There was no reasoning with this person. It was like talking to a brick wall. I didn’t know that such brainwashed minions of the CCP existed, but talking to her led me to believe that the majority of mainland Chinese are exactly like her. And that’s a big, big problem for the whole world. This experience completely changed my entire perception of China. I now see something truly grotesque and dangerous that I didn’t before, and sadly I am now wary of Chinese mainlanders I meet.
A good example how ideology and lack critical thinking skill can effectively make a person operate as if she had delusional psychosis. My grandfather behaved exactly the way you describe, when he suffered delusional psychosis from being attacked with a hammer. I got a CD with TC of his brain. He had like 5 holes in it visible for even for an amateur, including two really big ones at frontal lobe.
@@detroit_guacamole There isn't a single country that isn't built upon exploitation and freedom(or doesn't have blood on their hands), people that think so are ignorant of human history and reality.
@detroit_guacamole There's a LOT more third-world people trying to get into the U.S. than into any other nation, few ever leave the U.S.. Why? Freedom, lack of persecution, prosperity.
It's funny that she asked why talk about tiananmen square that happened in 1989 but they kept talking about Nanking massacre that happened 85 years ago and kept infusing hate to Japanese in the young generations.
I grew up from Taiwan. As a kid I watched all shows from Japan and enjoy Japanese gourmet. And now living in the US, I made some friends from Mainland China. When I told them that I respect both China and Japan equally as their own country they were shocked. They said the Japanese were bad that they killed so many Chinese. I should be hating them. And that I should see China as my home country. We are still cool. It's just nice to see their side of view and to understand where they stand on this sensitive subject.
@@gameskyjumper1721 Agreed on killing 300 000 chinese during the Nanking Massacre was bad. So, starving 10s of millions to death during the Great Chinese Famine due to some stupid mistake in policies blaming the birds and other pest by the CCP was worse. Sure everyone can have their opinion on everything. But some opinions are wrong.
@@gameskyjumper1721 that’s kind of sad that you have to tolerate their nationalism & treating your home country like nothing in order to remain friends.
I am a university teacher. If I saw a student behaving like that on my university floors, I would report that student to the Ethics Committee immediately. Freedom of speech and exchange of ideas is important and vandalism is a tool to curb what is supposed to be the heart of University life.
What university do you work at where freedom of speech is more important than the feelings of minorities? They haven’t pretended to give a shit about free speech since I went to uni and worked in one in us
Personally, I’d call the police first. They’re vandalizing property; that makes them criminals. Then call your ethics committee for good measure. If they don’t get deported you can at least expel them and they’ll lose their student visa.
Pretty sure you can implement a citizens arrest for vandalism as well. Then if they try to physically fight back, you have a right and duty to defend yourself.
I personally don't thiink that this is at the heart of a universities life anymore. I notice too often that contrary opinions are shut down at the universities.
This is a very sad reality and as an international student myself, I protest against the CCP in the school whenever I have a chance when CCP comes up as a topic
Stay safe, mate. I think when it comes to anti-CCP people, it's _especially_ Chinese anti-CCP people who are a target for the wumaos and the MSS. So when you go to such protests, make sure you keep your identity hidden. Mask up, sunglasses on etc... Stay safe, good luck, and keep fighting the good fight.
@@elanor2123 They use family members as hostages if someone overseas is misbehaving. It doesn't matter if he's outside China, as long as he's got family within China he's vulnerable.
George Orwell Jokes aside, really sad as we see it in Europe right now: Russian people doing what 1930 German people doing. Many German people supporting Russia in the war: supporting Putin… just like the manipulative propagandist Hitler
Exactly. There is no equivalence. Free nations don’t jail people for their ethnicity or religion and they don’t declare you a terrorist just because you are a minority using a VPN.
I get your sentiment but you are going about it the wrong way. You can't use the legal/illegal argument against these people. The CCP nationalists will, if push comes to shove, just claim that having different views is in fact against the law. Remember that laws can be anything a tyrant wants. The argument should not be legal, it should be moral.
I understand why they do that, even some are doing in good faith(in their minds there is), but the only solution is to send them back. If you come to my country, you need to respect and obey the law, in her case vandalism. I get the University relies on these students' revenue, but if you set few examples, it can be stopped without jeopardizing all the revenue.
But what is the actual law as far as vandalism? Generally, posting messages on public (or private) property is itself a form of vandalism. So is pulling it down also vandalism? I'm not excusing any of it. I genuinely wonder whether they're doing anything wrong by pulling it down, legally speaking.
@@GK-yi4xv I believe this wall is reserved for postings, so adding to the wall is OK, removing your own postings is OK, removing someone else's posting can be characterized as vandalism. All in my opinion, so I could be wrong. However, the assault on the guy using a megaphone is quite clear. It's a criminal act.
They don't respect other cultures. I've seen this at university. I can't imagine going to another country and show so much disrespect. It's common courtesy to just keep your mouth shut if you're a visitor in a foreign country. For people who don't believe in free speech, they certainly love to insult other cultures at any chance they can get and as a visitor none the less. Maybe they shouldn't attend if it's so horrible. Go back to your home country. It's a distraction to the entire student body.
I used to teach Chinese elementary school students online and most of the kids I taught would tell me awful things about the US every day. They would criticize me a lot and talk a lot of crap about the US even if I didn’t even bring up anything to them… it was insane!!! We would go from singing a song in English to reading english books then they would ask me crazy questions about the US and that my country is f-Ed up and the Chinese government is the best and bla bla bla !!! Omg
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
Kids really needs to learn about "life skills" and the learning environments is also crucial for the developments so they can crave their own path as human beings with more clarity in their own mind.
do NOT slander China ---> NO problem. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
My friend's brother went on a trip there. He's black and got denied entry at several places. And even got arrested for a stolen tablet at the hotel that went missing 2 days BEFORE he check in. The 'police' slapped him many times to try and get him to confess before him go. He also understood a little mandarin so he understood when the onlookers that rudely stared and took photos of him said things like black doggy, freakishly tall (6'2!) and ugly.
I go to a Chinese doctor, she was educated in China and goes back frequently to visit family. I asked her about the organ harvesting and selling of said organs and the slave labor camps. She denied any of that is going on.
I stopped Chinese food when China blamed America for covid. I go to a Korean owned laundry that charges more but the Koreans all stayed open the entire duration of covid while the Chinese were the 1st to close.
I think that's because most doctors weren't involved in those events, and now decades have past since organ harvesting was much more active, so not a lot of doctors would know about it
@@vitocorleone8323 I sold all of my Chinese stock about two years ago, the more I learned about China and how the CCP treated their people I could no longer deal with them, I also boycott anything I possibly can that is made in China.
When I was in graduate school I noticed that when there was only 1 Chinese student they participated and freely expressed themselves, but as soon as there were 2 or more they fell silent. I asked one of the students, whom I was pretty close to, and they told me that “I don’t trust them”. This is a form of censorship and will ultimately blow up and/or contribute to brain drain.
We're not going to let this happen in the United States people are waking up every day and we will have the law the legitimate uncorrupted law starting in 2024 where we are going to start putting it into this and I believe we should create laws to start enforcing laws about any kind of communist or socialist Charters ever starting in this country again as we can see what's happened to the rest of the world that has gone into Socialism or Marxism they've turned into very bad terrible places and we're going to do everything we can to prevent that from happening in the United States which they are trying to do now a one-party government that is full of corruption greed and lust for power!!!!
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
You are forgetting that it is the law in China to snitch. You, and by extension your family, can be held as accomplices by the CCP if you do not snitch on what they consider a crime. They don't always enforce for physical criminal actions, but if it is a political or CCP state matter, they will enforce that snitching law.
This is because in order to leave the country, they have to make a promise to their political police that they will have eyes open for the unlawful behaviour of other Chinese people abroad and will report it. And it's not so simple to just ignore it, because if someone else sees some situation and reports it, and you don't, you get in big trouble. It worked similarly here in communist Poland 30 years ago, but I think China is doing it to a bigger extent, using modern tools.
Feeling superior, feeling the best and the brightest, feeling they're richer, I've met so many Mainland Chinese students in different countries who like to bully and insult other students
Those posted notes are definitely lies, deserved to be torn down. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
I once worked as a private tutor in the UK. The students were the rich children of the world's financial elite. One was from China. He was friendly, and invited me to his family home -- to live the high life, drive his dad's lambo, etc.. I thanked him for his offer, but said it would be a bad idea, as I speak my mind. He was confused, so I loaded up Wikipedia and drew up pages for Tiananmen Square, Falun Gong, and Tibet. Denial: he would not believe it. I started to dig into the references. Bargaining: "The British Government would do the same". I told him I had participated in protests against the Iraq war in England, and we were not shot. He did not have anything to say after that. But after the tutoring was done, he invited me (by text) to join himself and a friend in the park. After arriving and waiting half an hour I called him, only to get "Ha Ha! Fsck You!". So, anger. This was his revenge. It's difficult for a child with a brittle identity to handle a challenge. I taught this child something outside of the curriculum.
You also said that he is a rich second generation. I think you should tell him how rubbish the British government is, how good China is, and how to earn more money.
that's actually really funny of a revenge, but sad that he couldn't even speak up at the time of being face to face when receiving a rebuttal. Instead he took revenge on something that wasn't a personal attack just a fact.
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you? if you want even more democracy, then the next step is the total collapse of china. do you support that?
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
We have the same problem with Chinese here at USC, in California. When student orgs have an event or ANYTHING publicly is said bad about the Chinese government an army of Chinese students come out saying anything bad about China is propaganda. And if one of those student orgs saying something bad about the CCP is made up of many Twainese or Hong Kong students... Security will be needed because it's about to go down.
I have a daughter like that. All her news comes from CNN and MSNBC. No matter what I show her for proof she doesn't believe me. Even if I show her a U tube video of an event that shows CNN was lying she says the video was altered. I rarely talk to her,
@@Norm475 SHUN your daughter and write her out of your will.. Leave EVERYTHING to your OTHER children that think like a normal person, or has YOUR VIEW OF THINGS.. In the will, EXPLAIN the REASON she gets NOTHING.. It's called striking out from the grave, AND I LOVE IT..
my wife is second generation Chinese Canadian and despises the way Chinese government operates. however her younger cousin in university has totally been brainwashed by Chinese propaganda videos online. He even intends to move to china there. i'm so shocked at the reach of Chinese propaganda. this needs to be tackled.
Two things could happen 1) He feels just at home there and parrots the party line like all the other pro CCP foreigners living there. 2) he sees the lies and comes to the realization he was wrong. It could always be a blend of 1 and 2 because people tend to change after a few years.
Remembering the US citizen who was tortured to death for taking down a single poster in North Korea? That's the fundamental difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.
Yep. She's been taught well in the Saul alinksy tactics.. The West needs to cut all ties with Red China or we will be wiped out. Red Chinese play the very long game. Mainland China use to be occupied with Aboriginal people like the ones in Australia. They wiped them out also via playing the long game. Genocide is still genocide even if it's a slow burn..
I remember in high school we had international students from China, my history teacher taught the two of them what happened in tiananmen square. Was crazy for me at 14 to understand what was happening.
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Tiananmen square protesters are unsatisfied with the current state of democracy in China. They want the people in China to have voting rights. With voting rights, weak majority, the 90% of the population in China can further establish laws to further benefit themselves ---> China collapses.
@David Moore no need to be concerned mate. I wasn't very satisfied with how my university handled this ordeal. I still attend the uni, I have plenty of good friends from all over the world (including China).
You do not go to another country (as a guest/student) and vandalize things. They should be expelled from school & sent home. Tank yoi for showing this/spreading awareness. ☮️💟
That will enact an organised violent mob attack on anyone publicly speaking out in criticism of the CCP through the Chinese version of Whatsapp, I think it’s called Weimo or some shit?
@@truthvigilante4263 I agree. Imagine seeing the great leap "forward" and still allowing the cultural "revolution" to happen, imagine seeing tian'anmen square and still not rise up like south korea and taiwan. I feel fucking sad for my own nation honestly
Appreciate your push back..... on this kind of conversation..... This happened pretty close to home for me which has inspired me to take some future action....
I once commented on one of your videos and it was automatically taken down by UA-cam (I'm sure of that). I lived in Wenzhou China and thankfully I was able to escape. I nearly didn't make it out and I plan on never going back. No one could ever pay me to go back there. To be honest, I'm honestly afraid to talk with my friends who still live there. As well as tell people about the truth, because people freak out and say it's all lies. I've watched your channel for years and I'm very grateful to you for speaking out and telling the truth.
@@elanor2123 Hello Eleanor, I would always try to be cautious with what I post on the internet. I don't know your circumstances, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Especially, since you're living in China currently. Always use a VPN and remember that the apps we have to install for everyday life in China basically have full excess to our phones. That's why I had a back up phone while living in China. Also when meeting new people there, even if they seem really nice and open to certain topics be careful because they may not have the best interests at heart for you.
@@michaelawagner1407 Thanks! I use a VPN that I don't think is controlled by China (hopefully.?) My parents think it's dangerous to write anything bad about China on UA-cam, but in my opinion things should be freely discussed without fear unless the comment is offensive, at least on foreign media.. I just wanted to know if they knew about the comments u wrote on UA-cam and if that made it harder for you to leave China, or if this is just a speculation that u made Thank you!
@@elanor2123 I would also agree with what you're parents say. Things can happen very quickly in China without any warning. I also agree that it's important to tell the truth...but I experienced things that I could never have imagined while living in China. I loved living in China and I loved the people there and still do. I do not like or trust the government. If not for my connections, I wouldn't have made it out of China and back to my family. There were days that my VPN would be shut down, because the government is always trying to get rid of them. I wasn't able to call my family even with the country code. They could call me, but in those situations I needed to get in contact with people out of China, I couldn't. It took me over a month from start to finish to be able to get on a plane home. That's even after I had gotten to another country. I even had to lie to get on the plane, they took me to a holding room and questioned me for over an hour. I nearly missed my plane. I spent all my savings at that time on trying to get home. Please be safe if you're going to say anything.
@@elanor2123 Just speaking about my previous comment. It had some information on China in it, but nothing offensive. After I realized UA-cam took it down, I tried to comment the same comment multiple times. I don't know why UA-cam took it down.
That dude with the camera is really admirable, calm, considerate and respectful throughout; while still being truthful. Really impressive for a uni student. Often younger people get heated and he never did. That said I feel bad for the other side, imagine their position. They have family in China, they might be intending to go back and live there, imagine how hard it is for them to rearrange their thoughts to reality. I hope in the future they can.
So true. Really admirable guy (not sure if he is a uni student, that would be doubly surprising maturity! I think he might be a bit older.) As much as the nationalists' behaviour and state of mind (bent on always fighting and rhetoric) is seriously upsetting -- when I step back a bit, I can't help but know that shaming or judging them will never really help them get over it. People need to feel safe to begin to express their own doubts and explore alternatives. Like a hurt animal, it might take a lot of calm and care before they can drop their agitation.
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Back in 1999, I went to a demonstration by Chinese in Manhattan after the bombing of the PRC embassy in Belgrade. One speaker was voicing rather strident anti American rhetoric, so I shook my head. I felt someone push me from behind. I ignored it, and a minute or two later I shook my head again. The man behind me shoved me again and I turned around to confront him. He said "If you don't like it, then leave!" I replied "Sorry, this is my country. You leave!"
Like 20 years ago I took my father to Mayo Clinic. the Dali Lama was there for a speech.There was like 40 Chinese nationals waving Red China flags protesting. I walked up smiling and engaded in a light conversation. I mentioned Mao murdering millions of Chinese and Tiananmen Square. An middle age Chinese became flustered and annoyed. He told me to leave. I told him I'm in America and an American. He should leave. He became more flustered and walked away.
@@martthesling right, and the Dalai Lama never did a thing to hurt those protestors, but their own government has by controlling what they can do and think.
What would happen if a Chinese warplane bombs the American embassy and kills 4 US diplomats residing inside? Would you shake your head and speak out against vocal US patriots.
Absolutely. Unfortunately they’re above the law in Australia, the CCP stooges I mean. Decent Chinese Australians who are horrified by it keep quiet for good reason. I am pessimistic about Australia’s future.
@@Psyopcyclops They might be asked to leave, but that's about it. Depends how many people complain. It's just a few posters that can be easily replaced.
Unfortunately, Taiwan herself understand the situation very well and Taiwanese leader will never want to officially say outloud that Taiwan is a country to protect itself from China. Though not similar, look at what happened to Ukraine right now, they leaned toward joining NATO, which angered Russia, when Ukraine in the past used to be part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine currently regime took down Lenin statue too. Thats why Russia had to take action to protect its nation from NATO and US interference if Ukraine officially joins NATO.
@@titiung Think for a second why Ukraine might want to join NATO. Oh right, because Russia has a history of invading Ukrainian territory without being protected by the West.
@@titiungI'm from Eastern Europe that's complete nonsense dude. Stop talking about stuff you don't understand. It's pure aggression by Putin and not a "defence" against anything.
@@titiung >>Unfortunately, Taiwan herself understand the situation very well and Taiwanese leader will never want to officially say outloud that Taiwan is a country to protect itself from China.
"Why do you think about things that happened decades ago?" As a German, that left a really bad taste in my mouth... That's exactly how World Wars happen - you forget the past!
In 2020 I was in Thailand, and the news reported that the Chinese tourists were all gone. "Great!" I thought. No better time to be in Chiang Mai. Not to broad brush it but I'd just rather not have to deal with someone like this woman.
Wow, I hope these students were charged with vandalism because had it been anyone else they would have been charged.North America and other universities around the world need to stop tolerating this behaviour, Chinese students can get their education in china.
Problem is then they become martyrs and their experience is used to bolster nationalistic feelings. Best just to replace every poster torn down with 2...
I am always constantly amazed that the Chinese citizens beg for the chains of their own enslavement. “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen”. ~Samuel Adams
I only care about his beer!!! Brewer-Patriot on the bottle. Or as the British would have seen him, Alcholic-Terrorist! America, living 250 years in the past. In a time that never was in the first place!
C McB It reminds me of my own weakness. I would have been thinking of slapping her into oblivion, but I woudln't have done it. What would have been the proper thing to do?
Every time I see the video of that girl tearing down the Lennon wall (and among all of the other similar incidents), I want to cry. I've heard so many instances of Mainland Chinese students destroying Lennon Walls or even attacking anyone who supports HK or Taiwan, and I'm so scared that I'll experience it as well if I do speak up, due to there being so many Chinese students at my uni... well, actually I've kind of experienced something like this when a Chinese student told me to not bring up how I want to be referred to as a Hong Konger, rather than Chinese, ever again (not to mention some people will DENY these instances of bullying whenever someone mentions it). Sorry for the rambling above, btw. And thank you for speaking up about this issue.
So it’s cool to walk into a Confucius center and start destroying literature & tearing things off their walls? 🤔 Being here is a privilege & it’s breaks my heart that CCP princelings get student visas that ought to go to the kids who WANT to be here & will uphold our values. If 🇨🇳 is so great, learn there, work there, stay there. We’ll take the Uighers, the Tibetans, the HK demonstrators, the dissidents, the Han yearning to be free.
Truth! I'd love to see a Uighur or Tibetan student program. Or, we could get more real, what about for students from Haiti, Guatemala, or Kurdish regions??!
@SING CHUNG LEE My list is a sample. It definitely could include more. Although I can appreciate countries opening up to help their neighbors in need, it's been hard to watch black and brown refugees stranded at border fences in the cold, rain/snow, some with children. We're one humanity.
I started watching you recently. The first video was of when you worked for one of the richest men in China and kept watching I absolutely salute you and your work. Your education and calm demeanor is your weapon. Keep fighting the good fight. 👍🏼
@@ryanmalin She’s easily in the top privileged .1% of China. She’s not miserable, on any level. She’s an entitled brat who is a “bad guest” in another country.
Actually, I was thinking that he should have been more forceful. I’m glad he kept calm and measured his words, but her compatriots will likely still try to play the “race card” if cornered.
If possible, I think he should have taken some of the postings and just moved them up higher. Out of her reach. I think she would have had a meltdown and stamped her foot. That would have been cool.
I wouldn't be able to put up with those people anymore. Every time I see those vandals, I'd wish for them to break a finger for each minority persecuted in China. But then I realize - they don't have enough fingers …
Because some of you guys seem to be unhinged and missing the point, my praise was in his ability to calmly articulate his points without resorting to violence, or her bad tactics. He doesn’t need to harm or attack anyone for us to understand what he’s saying. That’s the redeemable quality we should all be learning from lol.
So disgusting the way she laughed at the fact that Uyghur Muslims are being persecuted and killed and tortured in China! Winston, keep up the excellent reporting.
Westerners are so passive! I’ve spent time in East Asia, and I speak passable Mandarin. Please understand: Saving face is everything in Chinese culture, whether it’s about themselves, their family, their nation, or their history. Saying or pointing out anything that is weak or unseemly about their country is enough to cause a riot. Example: An American friend brought back photos of some run-down city blocks in a Chinese city, and he was almost fired from his job. A surprise to me: They are very prejudiced! There are many local dialects and various ethnic groups, and they all seem to hate each other. They say the most horrible things (lies) about each other, but of course a Westerner dare not. Money and status are extremely important, as those things give face, but you can guess what they think and say about poor people. I could go on and on. Ask someone what they call Africa… Oh, I just had to go back and add this one: I was assured that they had no homosexuals, as that was a Western disease.
You gottta laugh. I remember when travelling alone around China in the 90s a few brave souls would approach me to 'practise their English'. Then they would say that their friend was gay and it is true that its not illegal in the West. Little old ladies shyly showing me their crucifixes hidden in their clothes. Truckloads of people getting exhibited with placards round their necks of their 'crime' on their way to execution. I saw a lot of things I wasn't supposed to, including a LOT of male babies peeing in gutters but not a single girl. They were busy selling them (well, babies dressed in pink) to North Americans in all the major cities I travelled through. At least those were the ones that got out.
A depraved society... This is how many countries operate, unable to understand rationality in the more Hegelian sense, that's why old Taoism/Confucianism is considered "magic" and very esoteric there. There is this book by author Eva Wong: "Cultivating Stillness" she expresses this same aspect about Chinese culture.
That is so true, I'm Indonesian with mainland Chinese descent. And it shows, especially with some of my grandfather's older siblings who were born in China, they always want to be perceived as the best, one sibling buys a new car, they have to buy a better one. When they have an opinion, all of us kids just learn to not question it because it doesn't matter if it was correct or not, if they think it's correct, then it's correct. These are little things, but it shows so much about the Chinese culture, about thinking they're the best and not wanting to learn from mistakes. Dangerous thing
As an American I met a few Chinese nationals studying in the UK. The wide majority of the Chinese students kept to themselves and didn’t mingle with the other nationalities(They loved to cheat on exams though). There was a few though that would mingle with everyone else and they were quite nice and aware of what really goes on. I never had any bad experiences with any of the students and had a few I’d consider friends.
@Haung Jo we met a Chinese spy in England where we shared a couchsurfing stay - my partner spoke Mandarin and understood the way he spoke was recently from China - he admitted being born in China but then said he grew up in the US, but his accent was all Chinese not US so that was an obvious lie - he said he was doing medical research at a university - we believed he was stealing research secrets to send back to the CCP.
Pretty amazing how you pacifist guys always gets along with even the most radical types, simply by accepting their radical views! Very nice and tolerant diversity.. 😴😴🤣 Why don't you stand up for your values, instead of supporting Radicalism with your ignorance? Are you also sugar coating Islam and sharia courts?
Great. Man with black moustache in the 1930s used a similar tactic. Atleast German Americans were mostly loyal to the USA and fought hard to take down Nazi Germany in WW2.
its not even about defending china, its about trying to destroy other cultures and ideas in this clip, by all means put up a pro ccp propaganda party wall in UQ brisbane, exercise your freedom of speech, you may be standing alone but you wont be arrested or censored remember you can never destroy culture, only contribute to it
This is what a real invasion looks like; You can bombard, kill, exterminate all you want. As long as your laws don't get enforced, that place doesn't count as invaded. It's just mind boggling how no authority jails these chinese students and just stays silent.
it shouldnt boggle your mind, the authorities allow it , doing their job for them, same reason why are champions of truth here werent banned a long time ago the goal here is not to condemn the CCP, it is to manipulate public opinion to get them susceptible for action they defend chinese people and criticize the CCP imagine a cite that defended the palestinians and criticized the IDF, gone within the hour guaranteed i cant in good faith ignore and evil we directly fund and criticize a similar situation on other side of world where i have no skin in the game if your goal is universal human rights and freedom everything must be on the table fortunately, the door is closing on these villainous people, military intervention gave way to coups and regime changes, color revolutions, and now it looks like even that is giving away to bluffs and empty threats the only way earth will ever be united is a free meeting of equals, not control by the few but agreement by the many
@Faceless Ai putin is the aggressor. Nato is a defensive treaty and a sovereign country can decide if they want the US or any other power placing missiles on their land. This shit about Russia needing a buffer zone is pure bullshit, they've lived with the baltics and Turkey on their doorstep for decades. If they don't want to be attacked by nato, just don't invade nato countries... This war started because Putin didn't want to look weak by pulling back 150k troops from the Ukrainian border. America did nothing. Nato did nothing. The EU did nothing. Russia did everything, and had planned this for months if not years beforehand. Nothing indicated ukraine was gonna be accepted into nato.
@@UserUser-zc6fx how is this a repeat of the bay of pigs? Who is invading who, do you think? Cuba survived the CIA attack and has lived on in the face of US aggression since. Look, I understand you being a skeptic of the US and I fully agree with you that they aren't a good thing for the world (see central and South American modern history for reference), but seriously? Favouring Russia over the USA in this context is plain stupid.
Thank you for this video and all the other videos about how vile, nasty and insidious the CCP is. Have you ever read the book ,,The Ugly Chinese"? Great book. Side note; I live in Taiwan for 5 years. Wonderful country. When I traveled to other countries in SE Asia, I noticed that the mainland Chinese were loathed and despised.
My high school had a large foreign exchange program that had quite a lot of Chinese students, a majority of said school was more close minded and liberal so you wouldn’t have things like the Lennon Wall, the only person I was friends with and knew that was Chinese was the one who lived most of her life in America and she unlike the foreign students and the Chinese teacher was Cantonese, I remember the Chinese exchange NEVER talked to anyone outside of their little clique and the ongoing feud the Chinese teacher had with my friend because she didn’t speak Mandarin and had a South Chinese accent
I had a semester long group project with 2 chinese students in college, and both were very kind and pleasant people. That said, one of them was a devout Christian, so it’s safe to assume she wasn’t a fan of the CCP.
I have known Chinese for almost 50 years and most of them are decent people. There are no doubt some CCP fanatics, but one should not make generalizations.
Perhaps you haven’t met any, but there are plenty of lovely, warm, friendly Chinese people. Don’t confuse the CCP or the idiots on these videos with the population at large. Otherwise, we become as bad as the CCP are.
I hope the person that filmed this reported this to the police as vandalism; a charge like that being upheld should result in expulsion. Especially at Uni of Queensland
They tried it a my former university in Germany. Didn't turn out well for them since one of them thought it's a good idea to push a friend of mine who is from Russia. 🤣
Russians take zero flack and will stand their ground. Old saying about cowardice: I ran from the wolf and ran into a bear. Basically tackling a small fight may prevent a larger one.
My university actually caught a university employee for being a spy for the ccp. He tired to steal a bunch of sensitive documents but his usb or something was found and the fbi investigated it.
Thank you for shining a light on this. I don't think most people know about this. It is especially helpful to understand how the young people's minds work- that the government has conditioned them to do this and doesn't even have to tell them directly. This also helps explain the level of control internally in China.
I worked in an australian university and its sad how much they rely on chinese students they represent so much of their revenue they lost like 4 billion dollars because of covid as a result i lost my job there, chinese students pay 50 or 60 grand each, which would be like 40k USD per year.
Still no reason to let them spread the sick propaganda they've been brainwashed with. It seems our Universities are no longer placesr of learninga and have long since devolved into satellite states of the CCP.
I worked in a US university and it was similar (including the loss of my job due to COVID and no one wanting to sit in their home country and pay US tuition to study at 02:00 local time). One difference was that our university didn't get on the Chinese student bandwagon quite fast enough--sure we had some Ss from China, but the largest portion were Korean or other Asian countries. That said, it was always interesting to see the classroom dynamics shift due to diverse cultures colliding--it's hard to demonize someone when you actually know them and not just what your government has told you about them!
It's similar to that in Canada - we have prostituted our educational system to the triple-fees-paying Chinese students. As "JMB Aug 12" points out above, the quality of these students is pathetically low, yet they are advanced year by year and graduate having experienced nothing and learned nothing. Cheating, plagiarism, lowered standards, and liberal marking paving the spiralling road to mediocrity.
Universities have changed their focus from being a seat of learning and debate to a focus of generating assets and money, which is having an adverse effect on communities in University towns as our culture, social norms and values are blatantly ignored and disrespect by the thousands of Chinese students taking up residence in established communities.
It would be cool if people responded by hanging up MORE clippings and posters. As well as handing out information on the CCP and pamphlets detailing the history they want to highlight. If I posted things, and someone thought they had a right to tear them down, I would kick into OVERDRIVE. Before it was done, they'd probably think that Lennon wall postings would be better than the alternative. The campuses should just post notices indicating that anyone tearing down others' postings will be expelled.
In my digital media class a few years ago there were a few international chinese students and most my art centers around the independence of Hong Kong, one project I photoshopped Xi Jinping’s face onto Poohs and my teacher showed them. I was worried but they laughed it off and made something similar for their projects! Those are the ones that we need to protect from the government, I hope they’re doing okay.
This shows again, that things are always worse than you think. :-) Knew students from China working in a friends company that all got found guilty in spying and sending pictures from every confidential paper they got to see back to China.
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That is vandalism. You should have physically stopped her, and called the police. Or at least threatened to call the police. This was in Australia right? Do your fucking duty as a human being... It is really sad when ordinary people do fuck all to protect freedom of speech...
What right did they have to do vandalism in a foreign country?!?!? And why didnt you do anything?
Are you going to talk about the Ukraine invasion?
This is not only chinese tactic. Now lets talk about the jews.....
I just signed up on your new channel. Thanks for posting so many excellent documentaries. Keep up the great work of shaming the true criminals🙏😊
If you really wanna drive them mad, tell them that China is actually Western Taiwan.
Ask them if gay marriage was made legal in Chinese Taiwan, why can't gays marry in 'Mainland' China? They'll usually spaz out in cognitive dissonance.
I literally laughed out loud when i read this 😂
@@teknologist7914 absolutely!
This is GOLD!
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She is tearing down posters IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. She's a guest in Australia and that means she must respect their free speech not enforce her censorship
These chinese people are so proud and so rude, sometimes think people beside them are below
Funny little beings they are
Otto Frederick Warmbier (December 12, 1994 - June 19, 2017) was an American college student who was imprisoned in North Korea in 2016 on a charge of subversion. In June 2017, he was released by North Korea in a vegetative state and died soon afterward.
Warmbier entered North Korea as part of a guided tour group on December 29, 2015. On January 2, 2016, he was arrested at Pyongyang International Airport while awaiting departure from the country. He was convicted of attempting to steal a propaganda poster from his hotel, for which he was sentenced to 15 years of imprisonment with hard labor.[1]Shortly after his sentencing in March 2016, Warmbier suffered a severe neurological injury from an unconfirmed cause and fell into a coma, which lasted until his death.[2] North Korean authorities did not disclose his medical condition until June 2017, when they announced he had fallen into a coma as a result of botulism and a sleeping pill. He was freed later that month, still in a comatose state after 17 months in captivity. He was repatriated to the United States and arrived in Cincinnati, Ohio, on June 13, 2017. He was taken to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center for immediate evaluation and treatment.
What's scary is that all these ostensibly Western, democratically-aligned countries, no longer have the rights they once believed in for all people. What happened during COVID to Australia and Canada? They weren't exactly anti-authoritarian paradises before... But now they have gone full China.
Even America has become so intermingled between the media and the government. Every station is broadcasting... Not necessarily outright lies, but they do signal-boost convenient information.
@@LaneVermilion Roman Catholicism through the Jesuits and Satan have taken control of the Earth. They control China and have controlled them for centuries,.
Mao was a Vatican puppet, just like Xi, Trudeau, Biden, Trump, Pelosi, Newsom, Hochul, Abbott, DeSantis, Boris Johnson(England), Emmanuel Macron(France), Antonio Guterres(Sec.General United Nations), etc. The Earth is being taken over by the Jesuits and their coadjutors who run businesses, religion, sports, media, education, medicine and politics.
Where do we go? To the Creator and Redeemer Jesus Christ.
It is time to welcome Him into your heart, mind, and soul, trust Him and love Him and He will save you, for all eternity!
"I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me," the Words of Jesus Christ found in John 14:6. He is not a liar, Satan is and Satan will be thrown into the Lake of Fire with many who follow the antichrist. Don't follow the antichrist Pope, freedom is in Jesus Christ alone!
Maranatha!
The world being China's property and the idea of being protected by another's laws while in residency there doesn't apply to these people. And not enough universities stand up to them and remind them of the law.
*_Very old joke from the times when Poland was communist: Peoples Republic of Poland constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but doesn't guarantee freedom after speech._*
Ha-ha-ha! Good one.
That's the same shit leftoids say about free speech but not freedom from consequences of that speech.
poland are catolick not comunist and can never bee comunist
@@afrosheenix these concepts are not the same
It's the same in the US: you have the freedom to get money, food and shelter for your work, but not the freedom to have it guaranteed.
She was like "I want to show my freedom" while at the same time ripping off other people's freedoms. Her stubbornness and lack of common sense were just off the charts
She thought she was being clever, she doesn't understand freedom and confused it with entitlement.
She is adding to the "Ugly Chinese Foreigner" stereotype.
Chineses uses the same tactic as all leftist fascist parties. They are for their own freedom. Others in reeducation camps.
She doesnt really care. She is so brainwashed that its almost like a mental illness.
`it's narcissistic behaviour, entitlement
“To know nothing of what happened before you were born, is to forever remain a child.” - Cicero
Beautiful thought and apt.
these days they remain ignorant, not a child.
@@johnharris1360 children in their mind. Don't be fooled by their age. I've met people that are 70 years old but still 14 year old scared little child in the mind
Touché 👏
@@johnharris1360 The "child" means an ignorant state of being .Remember this was written thousands of years ago. Regarding the present times, my nine year old grandson sometimes knows more than me.
These Mainland Chinese students act like toddlers throwing a temper tantrum when they don't get their way. This particular woman is lucky to be dealing with someone that's so patient.
It is learned behavior from the adult (so-called) leadership of the CCP who gets butt-hurt for anything and everything they don't agree with.
well they are the spawn of the highest social credit. they’re the most brainwashed. dunno why they even want to leave china. stay there.
@@gladiammgtow4092 there’s such a difference from chinese that escape china vs high social credit rich kid chinese going overseas.
the latter is insane. the former are great people trying to protect the west.
China is poland and india is Germany
'These Mainland Chinese students act like toddlers'
as a musician I have noted a tone of voice - shrill - I call asperity - which comes from someone who knows something is unfair, but they want to try to protect themselves first so will shriek against the situation.
that's what I heard from the first female in this video - that high pitched asperity - she knew what she was doing was wrong, but felt compelled to do it for her own survival and fears for herself and her loved ones i.e. her family back in China who could get disappeared if she didn't do what the CCP wanted her to do.
They should be expelled from school and the country.
Exactly, China wouldn't hesitate for a second to do the same.
The audacity to act like this in a country that you are visiting .
Totally agree. 👍
Exactly. Too bad the school is happy taking their money.
I can experiment these people instead
The guy who filmed this girl handled it incredibly good. Just documenting, letting her do, asking open ended question, not getting provoced. Absolutely stellar.
So very calm as well, you're totally right.
that is because everyone knows those posters are full of lies. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
Bro, I know this is totally unrelated, but I need to get this off my shoulders. I went to my doctors appointment today, and found out that it was supposed to be for tomorrow... I made the trip and back, and now I gotta do it all over again tomorrow.
@@purpl3grape Oh you poor, poor thing.
*The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.*
_George Orwell_
@Fellow Æthelweard I am convinced that those white-hating groups are funded by the CCP.
Cool quote but apparently it is misattributed to George Orwell. It's from some right-wing author, Selwyn Duke in an article from 2009.
@Fellow Æthelweard ... what? I'm not pro right or left or anything... I'm not American. All I said was that the quote source was incorrect. Wasn't even speaking to you. Your enemy is you yourself for not being able to read properly.
I prefer this quote:
*The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.*
_- George Orwell (1984)_
@Fellow Æthelweard you are displaying the same behavior that Nazis display. Get out of the comments.
As a Chinese person grew up in Beijing, I remember 20 years ago when I left China to study overseas, I felt shocked when I heard criticism about my government, I took it very personally. I defended my government, and chose not to believe anything. As I spent more time to listen, reflect, and searched different resources, I realized how naive and close-minded I was. Brainwash in China started ever since we were born. Our parents, our teachers, everyone around us went through the same system, we think the Chinese government is Chinese people, is the country we love. We are educated to absolutely love the leader and the government, to worship them. They are not reachable. They are special. If anyone says anything bad about our government, that's same as our country and our people, that's an insult, that's a lie. As I become more mature, and think more independently, I don't think highly about the Chinese government anymore. The people who work for them are just doing their jobs and make a living. There are fears to speak the truth, maybe one day, when everyone in China can have true freedom of speech, have real people-elected democratic government, can access all the website like everyone else in the world, then China will be progressing in the right direction, I hope that day will come eventually.
thank you for your story - yes we are all brainwashed by our cultural beliefs we grew up with.
40% of US folk apparently think Putin is a good guy for invading Ukraine because DJT said so.
@@ultimobile You know Russian messaging has failed when even Fox news have now done a 180 degree turn, but Trump fanatics - after *years* of pandering to Putin - now suddenly blame Putins actions on Trump *not* being president 🤦🏼♀️
The same is going on with Trump..Trump IS America is many peoples eyes
@@nosuchthing8 by now Biden is America and it will be worse.
@@ultimobile ever heard about NATO.
Try seeing some details about them creating war then look at the actions against Russia.
And stop blindly believing everything you've been told to believe, by media propaganda.
How about you look at the cause of deaths in Ukraine in 2014 and since then.
Fk some people are willfully blind and no idea of the backstory America has played in all this.
Bet you've got no idea about the 13+ bio-labs either.
I like how he remains so calm and soft- spoken throughout this entire disagreement. Self control goes a long way.
Wow. I would've NOT been calm
Hear hear. Bravo.
He's not a wolf warrior. That kind of behavior gets you nowhere. I don't think they know the proverb about catching flies with honey instead of vinegar. Perhaps it doesn't translate.
@United Provinces of Planet Earth Give "Wolf warrior diplomacy" a Google so you can read what it is in your language and have a clear understanding.
@United Provinces of Planet Earth please don't take this the wrong way. Please don't learn English from rappers or pop culture. Speaking like that makes you sound ignorant. I am sure that's not how you want people to see you.
As a Canadian, I think it’s high time we started fighting back. We need to let them know that this behaviour is not going to fly.
In a world of liberals ass kissing the CCP, good luck
You need to start with your own Fascist Government first ! I am terrified for America and my Canadian brothers on the road to a GLOBALIST HELL !
Canada loves the CCP. Your country is finished. Get out before it's too late.
Tell your own government lolololol
@Realbobo hes probably speaking to other Canadians or maybe the entirety of North America. Either way, as a U.S. citizen in a state connected to Canada, I agree with him
This guy single-handedly destroying CCP's propaganda. Power to you man!
And Laowhy86& China Uncensored
As far as I remember The university had so much Chinese influence, the guy (Drew) got suspended and had to fight in court to be able to return to his studies.
@@robezoz Really? When she was the one tearing down the whole wall?
See also Lei's Real Talk, _inter alia._
@@elanor2123 It was a couple of years ago during a human rights protest and a HK pro democracy protest. Chinese students caused an altercation with him and fists went flying
"Ah, the Tienanmen Massacre happened so long ago, why do you care about that?"
The Rape of Nanjing also happened so long ago, why do you (as in the Chinese ultra-nationalists) care about that?
The double standards here are staggering.
Becausehistory cannever be wiped out.
@@darthdiculous6511 That’s the respectful and sensible answer. Online ‘little pinks’ and wumaos deserve neither.
That's inconsistent, but let's admit that a WW2 massacre which killed millions is a thousand times more significant than a street battle that killed a few hundred, or maybe a couple thousand (depending on whose estimate you believe)... many police and military people were hurt or killed in the vicinity of Tianananmen Square--there was violence from all sides.
Awesome point mate
@@illarionbykov7401 both Chinese and Japanese soldiers dies as well during WW2 so your debate is flawed
Send any such person back, revoke their visa and their university enrollment.
Absolutely, take a hard line on these clowns. Nothing more than agents of the state.
I live in New York City. I met one of these college-age Chinese nationalists. A pretty young woman, in her early 20’s I guess. She was working as an intern on a film shoot on which I was a crew person (it was part of her American university experience, apparently). She was assigned to assist me on set. Our conversation somehow turned to politics, specifically regarding the takeover of Hong Kong. What a surprise! I had never encountered this breed of vulgar human being before. Because she was an international student, and because we were working in a creative industry where most people are liberal, I made the mistake of expecting her to sympathize with the protesters in Hong Kong who were being brutalized for defending their democracy. But NO! Her response was to say those people in Hong Kong deserve it because they should know to obey. Huh? I did a double take. But it only got worse from there. Eventually she let loose with the entire gamut: arrogant Americans don’t know anything about what’s really happening in China. China has the strongest economy, the best luxury goods and the greatest real estate market in the world. Tianamen Square never happened, it was made up by the West to malign China and the video evidence of it was all staged. Americans think their “freedom” is so great, but you are not really free in America, blah blah blah. There was no reasoning with this person. It was like talking to a brick wall. I didn’t know that such brainwashed minions of the CCP existed, but talking to her led me to believe that the majority of mainland Chinese are exactly like her. And that’s a big, big problem for the whole world. This experience completely changed my entire perception of China. I now see something truly grotesque and dangerous that I didn’t before, and sadly I am now wary of Chinese mainlanders I meet.
A good example how ideology and lack critical thinking skill can effectively make a person operate as if she had delusional psychosis.
My grandfather behaved exactly the way you describe, when he suffered delusional psychosis from being attacked with a hammer. I got a CD with TC of his brain. He had like 5 holes in it visible for even for an amateur, including two really big ones at frontal lobe.
Liberal statists are tyrants lol
Time for naive Westerners to understand this threat to their future. I visited China and was followed by security and herded everywhere I went.
@@detroit_guacamole There isn't a single country that isn't built upon exploitation and freedom(or doesn't have blood on their hands), people that think so are ignorant of human history and reality.
@detroit_guacamole
There's a LOT more third-world people trying to get into the U.S. than into any other nation, few ever leave the U.S.. Why? Freedom, lack of persecution, prosperity.
I’m Australian. Why do we let this happen in our country ?
Because you have honour and Chinese nationalists have none.
@@AthenaCannon No its because people who run this country like Chinese money
Because your government is bedridden in chinese money
$$$$$
You guys are way too polite. I would rip this girl's hands off for tearing down the symbol of freedom and democracy🙂
It's funny that she asked why talk about tiananmen square that happened in 1989 but they kept talking about Nanking massacre that happened 85 years ago and kept infusing hate to Japanese in the young generations.
The past is convenient to them.
Timz Low
Excellent point.
I grew up from Taiwan. As a kid I watched all shows from Japan and enjoy Japanese gourmet. And now living in the US, I made some friends from Mainland China. When I told them that I respect both China and Japan equally as their own country they were shocked. They said the Japanese were bad that they killed so many Chinese. I should be hating them. And that I should see China as my home country. We are still cool. It's just nice to see their side of view and to understand where they stand on this sensitive subject.
@@gameskyjumper1721 Agreed on killing 300 000 chinese during the Nanking Massacre was bad. So, starving 10s of millions to death during the Great Chinese Famine due to some stupid mistake in policies blaming the birds and other pest by the CCP was worse.
Sure everyone can have their opinion on everything. But some opinions are wrong.
@@gameskyjumper1721 that’s kind of sad that you have to tolerate their nationalism & treating your home country like nothing in order to remain friends.
Can you imagine what would happen to an Australian student if he did this in China?
he would be in jail. No questions, no trial.
You wouldn't see him/her again.
does china slander australia?
@@truthteller-o2f Yes, duh. Are you a wumao as well?
@@truthteller-o2f
The CCP and their brainwashed zombies slander the entirety of the western world every single day.
She should be jailed , fined and deported! What hope does Australia have with the spineless politicians we have!
jailed, fined and deported? then you can name yourself new china
Which politicians?
@@railfandepotproductions all of em!
@@SodapopTheOutsider sounds like capitalism
Money!!!!!!!!
I am a university teacher. If I saw a student behaving like that on my university floors, I would report that student to the Ethics Committee immediately. Freedom of speech and exchange of ideas is important and vandalism is a tool to curb what is supposed to be the heart of University life.
What university do you work at where freedom of speech is more important than the feelings of minorities? They haven’t pretended to give a shit about free speech since I went to uni and worked in one in us
Personally, I’d call the police first. They’re vandalizing property; that makes them criminals.
Then call your ethics committee for good measure. If they don’t get deported you can at least expel them and they’ll lose their student visa.
Pretty sure you can implement a citizens arrest for vandalism as well. Then if they try to physically fight back, you have a right and duty to defend yourself.
@@RT-qd8yl Doesn't Australia have guns? I can imagine what would happen if someone tried to citizens arrest a Texan.
I personally don't thiink that this is at the heart of a universities life anymore. I notice too often that contrary opinions are shut down at the universities.
This is a very sad reality and as an international student myself, I protest against the CCP in the school whenever I have a chance when CCP comes up as a topic
Stay safe, mate. I think when it comes to anti-CCP people, it's _especially_ Chinese anti-CCP people who are a target for the wumaos and the MSS.
So when you go to such protests, make sure you keep your identity hidden. Mask up, sunglasses on etc... Stay safe, good luck, and keep fighting the good fight.
Please stay safe! The world needs more people like you.
I hope the international school ur attending is outside China, since those topics would get people in huge trouble..
Stay safe and wish you well!
@@elanor2123 They use family members as hostages if someone overseas is misbehaving.
It doesn't matter if he's outside China, as long as he's got family within China he's vulnerable.
@@bobs_toys That is some next level bullshit right there.
(I'm not saying it's not true, i'm saying it's more awful than some tactics dictators use)
This whole video is a lesson on the phrase “those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”
George Santayana
George Orwell
Jokes aside, really sad as we see it in Europe right now: Russian people doing what 1930 German people doing.
Many German people supporting Russia in the war: supporting Putin… just like the manipulative propagandist Hitler
Weird way of saying "inoculated" against it.
@@FrankHarwald what do you mean sir?
They can't "forget" what they never learned in the first place.
Do you have jails in Australia?
For people that commit crimes, yes. Not for people of particular races who have committed no crime.
Exactly. There is no equivalence. Free nations don’t jail people for their ethnicity or religion and they don’t declare you a terrorist just because you are a minority using a VPN.
well she left before he can have chance to explain that.
I get your sentiment but you are going about it the wrong way. You can't use the legal/illegal argument against these people. The CCP nationalists will, if push comes to shove, just claim that having different views is in fact against the law.
Remember that laws can be anything a tyrant wants.
The argument should not be legal, it should be moral.
practicing an unsanctioned religion is a crime in China, legalist arguments are insufficient
actually....
I understand why they do that, even some are doing in good faith(in their minds there is), but the only solution is to send them back. If you come to my country, you need to respect and obey the law, in her case vandalism. I get the University relies on these students' revenue, but if you set few examples, it can be stopped without jeopardizing all the revenue.
It'd be hilarious to make an entire wall of ww2 anti-japan propaganda, edited to be Chinese instead. It'd trigger the shit out of them.
But what is the actual law as far as vandalism?
Generally, posting messages on public (or private) property is itself a form of vandalism.
So is pulling it down also vandalism?
I'm not excusing any of it. I genuinely wonder whether they're doing anything wrong by pulling it down, legally speaking.
@@GK-yi4xv I believe this wall is reserved for postings, so adding to the wall is OK, removing your own postings is OK, removing someone else's posting can be characterized as vandalism. All in my opinion, so I could be wrong. However, the assault on the guy using a megaphone is quite clear. It's a criminal act.
They don't respect other cultures. I've seen this at university. I can't imagine going to another country and show so much disrespect. It's common courtesy to just keep your mouth shut if you're a visitor in a foreign country. For people who don't believe in free speech, they certainly love to insult other cultures at any chance they can get and as a visitor none the less. Maybe they shouldn't attend if it's so horrible. Go back to your home country. It's a distraction to the entire student body.
I totally agree with you.Send them back where they come from👍
I used to teach Chinese elementary school students online and most of the kids I taught would tell me awful things about the US every day. They would criticize me a lot and talk a lot of crap about the US even if I didn’t even bring up anything to them… it was insane!!! We would go from singing a song in English to reading english books then they would ask me crazy questions about the US and that my country is f-Ed up and the Chinese government is the best and bla bla bla !!! Omg
LoL.... but at the same time they pay lots of moneyt to learn English. Lots of loose screws.
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
Kids really needs to learn about "life skills" and the learning environments is also crucial for the developments so they can crave their own path as human beings with more clarity in their own mind.
This is absolutely outrageous. They should be punished heavily for their actions in other countries.
do NOT slander China ---> NO problem. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
Deportation is enough.
So you want the western government to act like the chinese government? Deportation is a totalitarian method.
people in China tell me it's a friendly country no it's not
My friend's brother went on a trip there. He's black and got denied entry at several places. And even got arrested for a stolen tablet at the hotel that went missing 2 days BEFORE he check in. The 'police' slapped him many times to try and get him to confess before him go.
He also understood a little mandarin so he understood when the onlookers that rudely stared and took photos of him said things like black doggy, freakishly tall (6'2!) and ugly.
Should not blur out the face of criminals.
Deport her.
I go to a Chinese doctor, she was educated in China and goes back frequently to visit family. I asked her about the organ harvesting and selling of said organs and the slave labor camps. She denied any of that is going on.
I stopped Chinese food when China blamed America for covid. I go to a Korean owned laundry that charges more but the Koreans all stayed open the entire duration of covid while the Chinese were the 1st to close.
I think that's because most doctors weren't involved in those events, and now decades have past since organ harvesting was much more active, so not a lot of doctors would know about it
@@vitocorleone8323 As a Korean, I salute you! :D
@@vitocorleone8323 I'm pretty sure those Chinese weren't that bad though.. most Chinese immigrants in the U.S are more clear minded
@@vitocorleone8323 I sold all of my Chinese stock about two years ago, the more I learned about China and how the CCP treated their people I could no longer deal with them, I also boycott anything I possibly can that is made in China.
When I was in graduate school I noticed that when there was only 1 Chinese student they participated and freely expressed themselves, but as soon as there were 2 or more they fell silent. I asked one of the students, whom I was pretty close to, and they told me that “I don’t trust them”.
This is a form of censorship and will ultimately blow up and/or contribute to brain drain.
We're not going to let this happen in the United States people are waking up every day and we will have the law the legitimate uncorrupted law starting in 2024 where we are going to start putting it into this and I believe we should create laws to start enforcing laws about any kind of communist or socialist Charters ever starting in this country again as we can see what's happened to the rest of the world that has gone into Socialism or Marxism they've turned into very bad terrible places and we're going to do everything we can to prevent that from happening in the United States which they are trying to do now a one-party government that is full of corruption greed and lust for power!!!!
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
They are snitching on each other.
You are forgetting that it is the law in China to snitch. You, and by extension your family, can be held as accomplices by the CCP if you do not snitch on what they consider a crime. They don't always enforce for physical criminal actions, but if it is a political or CCP state matter, they will enforce that snitching law.
This is because in order to leave the country, they have to make a promise to their political police that they will have eyes open for the unlawful behaviour of other Chinese people abroad and will report it. And it's not so simple to just ignore it, because if someone else sees some situation and reports it, and you don't, you get in big trouble. It worked similarly here in communist Poland 30 years ago, but I think China is doing it to a bigger extent, using modern tools.
Feeling superior, feeling the best and the brightest, feeling they're richer, I've met so many Mainland Chinese students in different countries who like to bully and insult other students
Stomp their heads in.
The level of indoctrination of that girl is so sad,
I can’t imagine going to someone else’s country & behaving this way. Wow. Disgraceful.
NO one can tolerate slander.
Those posted notes are definitely lies, deserved to be torn down. fyi, China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you?
@@truthteller-o2fit's not slander if it's true.
And you can choose to not engage and walk away as well.
@@truthteller-o2f slander is lies. none of this was lies. China is dangerous and people need to be aware of that
I once worked as a private tutor in the UK. The students were the rich children of the world's financial elite. One was from China. He was friendly, and invited me to his family home -- to live the high life, drive his dad's lambo, etc.. I thanked him for his offer, but said it would be a bad idea, as I speak my mind. He was confused, so I loaded up Wikipedia and drew up pages for Tiananmen Square, Falun Gong, and Tibet. Denial: he would not believe it. I started to dig into the references. Bargaining: "The British Government would do the same". I told him I had participated in protests against the Iraq war in England, and we were not shot. He did not have anything to say after that. But after the tutoring was done, he invited me (by text) to join himself and a friend in the park. After arriving and waiting half an hour I called him, only to get "Ha Ha! Fsck You!". So, anger. This was his revenge. It's difficult for a child with a brittle identity to handle a challenge. I taught this child something outside of the curriculum.
You also said that he is a rich second generation. I think you should tell him how rubbish the British government is, how good China is, and how to earn more money.
that's actually really funny of a revenge, but sad that he couldn't even speak up at the time of being face to face when receiving a rebuttal. Instead he took revenge on something that wasn't a personal attack just a fact.
Well we sowed the seed and now they harvest . Western blissful unawareness
@@hugohabicht9957stop using the past as a excuse to hate on people it is just a excuse to hate. it is no excuse
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Is that democracy enough for you? if you want even more democracy, then the next step is the total collapse of china. do you support that?
As someone who didn't realise how bad it is in China till a couple years ago; it's been frightening and eye-opening. Glad you're educating people!
China is the biggest democracy in the world. for example, someone had a great innovation, the innovator get ZERO credit. all the credit goes to those who do nothing, the majority. they call it "groupism". as a result, the weak grow and strong shrink. the weak grow to 1.4 billion, yet China is behind in everything due to shrinking talent pool. so the majority call the shots. if this is NOT democracy, then I do NOT know what is.
We have the same problem with Chinese here at USC, in California. When student orgs have an event or ANYTHING publicly is said bad about the Chinese government an army of Chinese students come out saying anything bad about China is propaganda.
And if one of those student orgs saying something bad about the CCP is made up of many Twainese or Hong Kong students... Security will be needed because it's about to go down.
I have a daughter like that. All her news comes from CNN and MSNBC. No matter what I show her for proof she doesn't believe me. Even if I show her a U tube video of an event that shows CNN was lying she says the video was altered. I rarely talk to her,
Maybe they should be shot like their government handles things, since they like to bring their own laws to places
If you were wondering who to bully its those people lol
@@Norm475 SHUN your daughter and write her out of your will.. Leave EVERYTHING to your OTHER children that think like a normal person, or has YOUR VIEW OF THINGS.. In the will, EXPLAIN the REASON she gets NOTHING.. It's called striking out from the grave, AND I LOVE IT..
CNN = Chinese News Network
my wife is second generation Chinese Canadian and despises the way Chinese government operates. however her younger cousin in university has totally been brainwashed by Chinese propaganda videos online. He even intends to move to china there. i'm so shocked at the reach of Chinese propaganda. this needs to be tackled.
Two things could happen
1) He feels just at home there and parrots the party line like all the other pro CCP foreigners living there.
2) he sees the lies and comes to the realization he was wrong.
It could always be a blend of 1 and 2 because people tend to change after a few years.
He'll move to China and never to be seen again
Like Miss Gu ?
goood. please leave. and we’ll take a hard working freedom loving chinese escapee.
@@SMERSH_BERSH big awakening, unless he’s rich, or white. lol enjoy china
Remembering the US citizen who was tortured to death for taking down a single poster in North Korea? That's the fundamental difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.
He remained so calm despite her aggression
That pencil thin chick ain't no threat lol..
Because he know his calm will make this video way more powerful than he fought but.
She proves how unreasonable people can be sometimes. She was still hell bent to destroy the posters. Even though she couldn't dispute his perspective.
Yep. She's been taught well in the Saul alinksy tactics.. The West needs to cut all ties with Red China or we will be wiped out. Red Chinese play the very long game. Mainland China use to be occupied with Aboriginal people like the ones in Australia. They wiped them out also via playing the long game. Genocide is still genocide even if it's a slow burn..
Well she wasn't exactly attacking him, was she?
I remember in high school we had international students from China, my history teacher taught the two of them what happened in tiananmen square. Was crazy for me at 14 to understand what was happening.
China is the biggest democracy in the world. the weak MAJORITY crush the strong minority ---> the weak grow and the strong shrink ---> China is behind in everything. Tiananmen square protesters are unsatisfied with the current state of democracy in China. They want the people in China to have voting rights. With voting rights, weak majority, the 90% of the population in China can further establish laws to further benefit themselves ---> China collapses.
Ah man... this is my University. This entire situation really made me lose faith
@David Moore no need to be concerned mate. I wasn't very satisfied with how my university handled this ordeal. I still attend the uni, I have plenty of good friends from all over the world (including China).
You do not go to another country (as a guest/student) and vandalize things.
They should be expelled from school & sent home.
Tank yoi for showing this/spreading awareness. ☮️💟
I live in Queensland it's weird to think that they are trying to enforce shit like this over here, a place that is 90% against the CCP
You don't need to majority, you only need a small but organized group. And the Chinese exchange students tend to stick together.
That will enact an organised violent mob attack on anyone publicly speaking out in criticism of the CCP through the Chinese version of Whatsapp, I think it’s called Weimo or some shit?
Why do our governments let them in? Clearly they aren't vetting things very well. I guess they put money over sanity.
Love your work. As a Chinese I support free speech and I hope ppl wake up
What do you think is an effective way to get Chinese people to see the light about the CCP?
@@MarkMark-xz4ff Impossible they’re too far gone at this point. Cognitive dissonance won’t allow enough of them to see the light.
@@truthvigilante4263 I know one guy who woke up. Personally. Hates the CCP passionately now.
@@truthvigilante4263 I agree. Imagine seeing the great leap "forward" and still allowing the cultural "revolution" to happen, imagine seeing tian'anmen square and still not rise up like south korea and taiwan. I feel fucking sad for my own nation honestly
Well when they get victimized by there government is only way or wronged by them
serpentza, we love you. You are bold to confront the CCP's crap while they are targeting you. Respect.
Appreciate your push back..... on this kind of conversation..... This happened pretty close to home for me which has inspired me to take some future action....
If you need support mate , lmk.
A perfect little member of the Red Guard.
I once commented on one of your videos and it was automatically taken down by UA-cam (I'm sure of that). I lived in Wenzhou China and thankfully I was able to escape. I nearly didn't make it out and I plan on never going back. No one could ever pay me to go back there. To be honest, I'm honestly afraid to talk with my friends who still live there. As well as tell people about the truth, because people freak out and say it's all lies. I've watched your channel for years and I'm very grateful to you for speaking out and telling the truth.
Hello, I'm a foreigner living in China, and do you think it's dangerous for me to write those sensitive comments on UA-cam?
@@elanor2123 Hello Eleanor, I would always try to be cautious with what I post on the internet. I don't know your circumstances, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Especially, since you're living in China currently. Always use a VPN and remember that the apps we have to install for everyday life in China basically have full excess to our phones. That's why I had a back up phone while living in China. Also when meeting new people there, even if they seem really nice and open to certain topics be careful because they may not have the best interests at heart for you.
@@michaelawagner1407 Thanks!
I use a VPN that I don't think is controlled by China (hopefully.?)
My parents think it's dangerous to write anything bad about China on UA-cam, but in my opinion things should be freely discussed without fear unless the comment is offensive, at least on foreign media..
I just wanted to know if they knew about the comments u wrote on UA-cam and if that made it harder for you to leave China, or if this is just a speculation that u made
Thank you!
@@elanor2123 I would also agree with what you're parents say. Things can happen very quickly in China without any warning. I also agree that it's important to tell the truth...but I experienced things that I could never have imagined while living in China. I loved living in China and I loved the people there and still do. I do not like or trust the government. If not for my connections, I wouldn't have made it out of China and back to my family. There were days that my VPN would be shut down, because the government is always trying to get rid of them. I wasn't able to call my family even with the country code. They could call me, but in those situations I needed to get in contact with people out of China, I couldn't. It took me over a month from start to finish to be able to get on a plane home. That's even after I had gotten to another country. I even had to lie to get on the plane, they took me to a holding room and questioned me for over an hour. I nearly missed my plane. I spent all my savings at that time on trying to get home. Please be safe if you're going to say anything.
@@elanor2123 Just speaking about my previous comment. It had some information on China in it, but nothing offensive. After I realized UA-cam took it down, I tried to comment the same comment multiple times. I don't know why UA-cam took it down.
That dude with the camera is really admirable, calm, considerate and respectful throughout; while still being truthful. Really impressive for a uni student. Often younger people get heated and he never did.
That said I feel bad for the other side, imagine their position. They have family in China, they might be intending to go back and live there, imagine how hard it is for them to rearrange their thoughts to reality. I hope in the future they can.
So true. Really admirable guy (not sure if he is a uni student, that would be doubly surprising maturity! I think he might be a bit older.)
As much as the nationalists' behaviour and state of mind (bent on always fighting and rhetoric) is seriously upsetting -- when I step back a bit, I can't help but know that shaming or judging them will never really help them get over it. People need to feel safe to begin to express their own doubts and explore alternatives. Like a hurt animal, it might take a lot of calm and care before they can drop their agitation.
I was in awe that he didn't beat her half to death.. I know i would have done real serious bodily harm to that vile ch!nk
Hi there. IF YOU DON'T LEARN ABOUT THE PAST YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT. This is how we keep getting ourselves in trouble. Love your channel Winston. Give Laloway my regards. Stay safe out there. Take care and God bless. And I truly Stay Awesome!
Back in 1999, I went to a demonstration by Chinese in Manhattan after the bombing of the PRC embassy in Belgrade. One speaker was voicing rather strident anti American rhetoric, so I shook my head. I felt someone push me from behind. I ignored it, and a minute or two later I shook my head again. The man behind me shoved me again and I turned around to confront him. He said "If you don't like it, then leave!" I replied "Sorry, this is my country. You leave!"
Like 20 years ago I took my father to Mayo Clinic. the Dali Lama was there for a speech.There was like 40 Chinese nationals waving Red China flags protesting. I walked up smiling and engaded in a light conversation. I mentioned Mao murdering millions of Chinese and Tiananmen Square. An middle age Chinese became flustered and annoyed. He told me to leave. I told him I'm in America and an American. He should leave. He became more flustered and walked away.
@@martthesling right, and the Dalai Lama never did a thing to hurt those protestors, but their own government has by controlling what they can do and think.
@@Tommykey07 To me, Chinese from the mainland are Nazis.
@@martthesling they are worse
What would happen if a Chinese warplane bombs the American embassy and kills 4 US diplomats residing inside? Would you shake your head and speak out against vocal US patriots.
Why don't people who do this get arrested? A citizen of Australia would get in trouble if they do this.
No they wouldn’t. It’s not illegal to tear a poster off the wall in public, and neither should it be.
Money
White supremacy. It's white peoples fault that she tore down posters. Infact the white guy filming should be arrested
Absolutely.
Unfortunately they’re above the law in Australia, the CCP stooges I mean.
Decent Chinese Australians who are horrified by it keep quiet for good reason.
I am pessimistic about Australia’s future.
@@Psyopcyclops They might be asked to leave, but that's about it. Depends how many people complain.
It's just a few posters that can be easily replaced.
"Remember: the CCP is a government, not a race. China is a country, not a race."
I'd like to add to that:
Remember: Taiwan is a country, not a race.
Unfortunately, Taiwan herself understand the situation very well and Taiwanese leader will never want to officially say outloud that Taiwan is a country to protect itself from China. Though not similar, look at what happened to Ukraine right now, they leaned toward joining NATO, which angered Russia, when Ukraine in the past used to be part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine currently regime took down Lenin statue too. Thats why Russia had to take action to protect its nation from NATO and US interference if Ukraine officially joins NATO.
@@titiung Think for a second why Ukraine might want to join NATO. Oh right, because Russia has a history of invading Ukrainian territory without being protected by the West.
@@titiungI'm from Eastern Europe that's complete nonsense dude. Stop talking about stuff you don't understand. It's pure aggression by Putin and not a "defence" against anything.
@@titiung >>Unfortunately, Taiwan herself understand the situation very well and Taiwanese leader will never want to officially say outloud that Taiwan is a country to protect itself from China.
-1000000000000000 social credit for you
"Why do you think about things that happened decades ago?"
As a German, that left a really bad taste in my mouth... That's exactly how World Wars happen - you forget the past!
In 2020 I was in Thailand, and the news reported that the Chinese tourists were all gone. "Great!" I thought. No better time to be in Chiang Mai.
Not to broad brush it but I'd just rather not have to deal with someone like this woman.
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
Wow, I hope these students were charged with vandalism because had it been anyone else they would have been charged.North America and other universities around the world need to stop tolerating this behaviour, Chinese students can get their education in china.
Mitch Daniels, President at Purdue University, said as much.
Problem is then they become martyrs and their experience is used to bolster nationalistic feelings.
Best just to replace every poster torn down with 2...
Truly priceless commentary and analysis - Thank you!
Nice to see her enjoying the freedom Australia offers, the same freedom she is trying to deny others, the freedom the ccp denies Chinese citizens.
Wow this man deserves a pint or two with the way he dealt with her. Amazing
I am always constantly amazed that the Chinese citizens beg for the chains of their own enslavement.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen”.
~Samuel Adams
You mistake West Taiwan dogs for people?
@@mombotdidnothingwrong.9359 You know you just insulted Winston’s wife.
I only care about his beer!!! Brewer-Patriot on the bottle.
Or as the British would have seen him, Alcholic-Terrorist!
America, living 250 years in the past. In a time that never was in the first place!
Apt quote. 💜✊🇺🇦
@@michaelrmurphy2734 Compared to the mainland Chinese that live 5000 years in the past.
I appreciate your attitude about sinking twice.
Thank you for showing how it applies in real life. It's frightening
C McB
It reminds me of my own weakness. I would have been thinking of slapping her into oblivion, but I woudln't have done it. What would have been the proper thing to do?
Every time I see the video of that girl tearing down the Lennon wall (and among all of the other similar incidents), I want to cry. I've heard so many instances of Mainland Chinese students destroying Lennon Walls or even attacking anyone who supports HK or Taiwan, and I'm so scared that I'll experience it as well if I do speak up, due to there being so many Chinese students at my uni... well, actually I've kind of experienced something like this when a Chinese student told me to not bring up how I want to be referred to as a Hong Konger, rather than Chinese, ever again (not to mention some people will DENY these instances of bullying whenever someone mentions it).
Sorry for the rambling above, btw. And thank you for speaking up about this issue.
John Lennon is a Beatle. Lenin is the guy you're looking for.
@@Cchen-ec9tk "Imagine" that.😕
You must always stand up for what believe no matter what. Do not back down!
" You ruin my liberty "
This is the level of English required to study in Australian Universities 😅🤣😂
Hmm
she said wuin , i like it when they say harrow..
They don't even try speaking English in Swedish universities lol
$$$ she pays upfront and university makes more money
“ You ruin my liberty” You mean like the CCP ruins everyone’s liberties in China? The irony in her statement.
They should be thrown out of the university they are guest in
So it’s cool to walk into a Confucius center and start destroying literature & tearing things off their walls? 🤔 Being here is a privilege & it’s breaks my heart that CCP princelings get student visas that ought to go to the kids who WANT to be here & will uphold our values. If 🇨🇳 is so great, learn there, work there, stay there. We’ll take the Uighers, the Tibetans, the HK demonstrators, the dissidents, the Han yearning to be free.
Yes. 100%.
Sad they dont allow the people who really needs help
Truth! I'd love to see a Uighur or Tibetan student program. Or, we could get more real, what about for students from Haiti, Guatemala, or Kurdish regions??!
Vety well said.👍👍👍👍
@SING CHUNG LEE My list is a sample. It definitely could include more. Although I can appreciate countries opening up to help their neighbors in need, it's been hard to watch black and brown refugees stranded at border fences in the cold, rain/snow, some with children. We're one humanity.
I started watching you recently. The first video was of when you worked for one of the richest men in China and kept watching I absolutely salute you and your work. Your education and calm demeanor is your weapon. Keep fighting the good fight. 👍🏼
I really appreciate the spotlight you are shining on these issues. I don't think its being covered enough.
Nicely done Winston, stayed on point didnt let that guy swim out of it and change the narrative.....💯😎
She's got a lot of nerve. I would have made her life miserable the entire time she was defacing that wall.
How do you make miserable what is already miserable? Serious question
Ppl who don't realize they're in chains don't believe they're enslaved. They aren't miserable.
@@ryanmalin
She’s easily in the top privileged .1% of China. She’s not miserable, on any level.
She’s an entitled brat who is a “bad guest” in another country.
@@ryanmalin Body slam and a few shots to the rib cage.
Little sub communist was lucky she wasn't facing a Western brute.
@@banjiman9869 and that's when you get jailed for a decade by the traitorous curs that govern the west.
This guy is a total fucking Chad. Calm composure, and the ability to articulate his point with someone acting entirely in bad faith. He’s got my vote.
Actually, I was thinking that he should have been more forceful. I’m glad he kept calm and measured his words, but her compatriots will likely still try to play the “race card” if cornered.
If possible, I think he should have taken some of the postings and just moved them up higher. Out of her reach. I think she would have had a meltdown and stamped her foot. That would have been cool.
@@elperrodelautumo7511 did you gdt watch the same thing as I did?
I wouldn't be able to put up with those people anymore.
Every time I see those vandals, I'd wish for them to break a finger for each minority persecuted in China.
But then I realize - they don't have enough fingers …
Because some of you guys seem to be unhinged and missing the point, my praise was in his ability to calmly articulate his points without resorting to violence, or her bad tactics.
He doesn’t need to harm or attack anyone for us to understand what he’s saying. That’s the redeemable quality we should all be learning from lol.
So disgusting the way she laughed at the fact that Uyghur Muslims are being persecuted and killed and tortured in China!
Winston, keep up the excellent reporting.
Don't say stuff you don't know. Not that I am saying it is bullshit
@@sammyd7857 maybe you need to rewind and take a good hard look at the beginning again.
@@elgrigorio1 the "fact"?
@@sammyd7857 OH, so you're denying that Uyghurs are being viciously persecuted? How nice.
@@sammyd7857 Reason TV has a video ob this. BBC has a video interview with a survivor! Go on UA-cam and look at it! Watch them for yourself.
Westerners are so passive! I’ve spent time in East Asia, and I speak passable Mandarin. Please understand: Saving face is everything in Chinese culture, whether it’s about themselves, their family, their nation, or their history. Saying or pointing out anything that is weak or unseemly about their country is enough to cause a riot. Example: An American friend brought back photos of some run-down city blocks in a Chinese city, and he was almost fired from his job. A surprise to me: They are very prejudiced! There are many local dialects and various ethnic groups, and they all seem to hate each other. They say the most horrible things (lies) about each other, but of course a Westerner dare not. Money and status are extremely important, as those things give face, but you can guess what they think and say about poor people. I could go on and on. Ask someone what they call Africa… Oh, I just had to go back and add this one: I was assured that they had no homosexuals, as that was a Western disease.
Man that's so bad. Wish Taiwan was leading mainland China. They're so cool and enlightened.
You gottta laugh. I remember when travelling alone around China in the 90s a few brave souls would approach me to 'practise their English'. Then they would say that their friend was gay and it is true that its not illegal in the West. Little old ladies shyly showing me their crucifixes hidden in their clothes. Truckloads of people getting exhibited with placards round their necks of their 'crime' on their way to execution. I saw a lot of things I wasn't supposed to, including a LOT of male babies peeing in gutters but not a single girl. They were busy selling them (well, babies dressed in pink) to North Americans in all the major cities I travelled through. At least those were the ones that got out.
A depraved society... This is how many countries operate, unable to understand rationality in the more Hegelian sense, that's why old Taoism/Confucianism is considered "magic" and very esoteric there. There is this book by author Eva Wong: "Cultivating Stillness" she expresses this same aspect about Chinese culture.
That is so true, I'm Indonesian with mainland Chinese descent. And it shows, especially with some of my grandfather's older siblings who were born in China, they always want to be perceived as the best, one sibling buys a new car, they have to buy a better one. When they have an opinion, all of us kids just learn to not question it because it doesn't matter if it was correct or not, if they think it's correct, then it's correct. These are little things, but it shows so much about the Chinese culture, about thinking they're the best and not wanting to learn from mistakes. Dangerous thing
Sad how they are programmed not to face reality.
You are so polite and respectful and she is so shrill
As an American I met a few Chinese nationals studying in the UK. The wide majority of the Chinese students kept to themselves and didn’t mingle with the other nationalities(They loved to cheat on exams though). There was a few though that would mingle with everyone else and they were quite nice and aware of what really goes on. I never had any bad experiences with any of the students and had a few I’d consider friends.
@Haung Jo we met a Chinese spy in England where we shared a couchsurfing stay - my partner spoke Mandarin and understood the way he spoke was recently from China - he admitted being born in China but then said he grew up in the US, but his accent was all Chinese not US so that was an obvious lie - he said he was doing medical research at a university - we believed he was stealing research secrets to send back to the CCP.
Pretty amazing how you pacifist guys always gets along with even the most radical types, simply by accepting their radical views!
Very nice and tolerant diversity.. 😴😴🤣
Why don't you stand up for your values, instead of supporting Radicalism with your ignorance?
Are you also sugar coating Islam and sharia courts?
@@OmmerSyssel …..
What?
@@OmmerSyssel what are you even trying to say and who are you directing your comment to?
@@MarkMark-xz4ff thought that would be quite obvious, its dictated at Seth.
As an Asian person, I have never defend China
Great. Man with black moustache in the 1930s used a similar tactic. Atleast German Americans were mostly loyal to the USA and fought hard to take down Nazi Germany in WW2.
And I agree with you. I am a American-born Chinese and I will never defend China.
its not even about defending china, its about trying to destroy other cultures and ideas in this clip, by all means put up a pro ccp propaganda party wall in UQ brisbane, exercise your freedom of speech, you may be standing alone but you wont be arrested or censored
remember you can never destroy culture, only contribute to it
Nothing wrong with China itself, culture, language and people.
@@gusyates1839 except the government
Lock em up. Destruction of property
Many years ago, a book was written about China, which chillingly predicted China today. George Orwell's 1984!.
My prayers to all innocent people of Ukraine 🇺🇦
Why, what happened?
@@anderstopansson Russia has invaded Ukraine
@@anderstopansson How is it possible to be online yet be so clueless?
@@rmpumper People are still waking up to this. As far as you know, this was the first notification this person tapped.
@@rmpumper IOW: Be nice.
From video 1 years ago, I’ve had much respect for Winston. I freaking love this channel.
VERY INFORMATIVE ON ALL LEVELS
This is what a real invasion looks like;
You can bombard, kill, exterminate all you want. As long as your laws don't get enforced, that place doesn't count as invaded.
It's just mind boggling how no authority jails these chinese students and just stays silent.
Ummmmm... the real invasion is happening now. In ukraine. Slava ukrainiy! 💛💙 Glory to ukraine!
it shouldnt boggle your mind, the authorities allow it , doing their job for them, same reason why are champions of truth here werent banned a long time ago
the goal here is not to condemn the CCP, it is to manipulate public opinion to get them susceptible for action
they defend chinese people and criticize the CCP
imagine a cite that defended the palestinians and criticized the IDF, gone within the hour guaranteed
i cant in good faith ignore and evil we directly fund and criticize a similar situation on other side of world where i have no skin in the game
if your goal is universal human rights and freedom everything must be on the table
fortunately, the door is closing on these villainous people, military intervention gave way to coups and regime changes, color revolutions, and now it looks like even that is giving away to bluffs and empty threats
the only way earth will ever be united is a free meeting of equals, not control by the few but agreement by the many
@Faceless Ai putin is the aggressor. Nato is a defensive treaty and a sovereign country can decide if they want the US or any other power placing missiles on their land. This shit about Russia needing a buffer zone is pure bullshit, they've lived with the baltics and Turkey on their doorstep for decades. If they don't want to be attacked by nato, just don't invade nato countries... This war started because Putin didn't want to look weak by pulling back 150k troops from the Ukrainian border. America did nothing. Nato did nothing. The EU did nothing. Russia did everything, and had planned this for months if not years beforehand. Nothing indicated ukraine was gonna be accepted into nato.
@@UserUser-zc6fx how is this a repeat of the bay of pigs? Who is invading who, do you think? Cuba survived the CIA attack and has lived on in the face of US aggression since. Look, I understand you being a skeptic of the US and I fully agree with you that they aren't a good thing for the world (see central and South American modern history for reference), but seriously? Favouring Russia over the USA in this context is plain stupid.
The CCP bribes western universities to support the behaviour of these agents.
Heyyyyyy! I’m in PA too!
Thank you for this video and all the other videos about how vile, nasty and insidious the CCP is. Have you ever read the book ,,The Ugly Chinese"? Great book.
Side note; I live in Taiwan for 5 years. Wonderful country. When I traveled to other countries in SE Asia, I noticed that the mainland Chinese were loathed and despised.
I've never met a Chinese national that wasn't rude, pushy, and grossly entitled.
My high school had a large foreign exchange program that had quite a lot of Chinese students, a majority of said school was more close minded and liberal so you wouldn’t have things like the Lennon Wall, the only person I was friends with and knew that was Chinese was the one who lived most of her life in America and she unlike the foreign students and the Chinese teacher was Cantonese, I remember the Chinese exchange NEVER talked to anyone outside of their little clique and the ongoing feud the Chinese teacher had with my friend because she didn’t speak Mandarin and had a South Chinese accent
I had a semester long group project with 2 chinese students in college, and both were very kind and pleasant people. That said, one of them was a devout Christian, so it’s safe to assume she wasn’t a fan of the CCP.
I have known Chinese for almost 50 years and most of them are decent people. There are no doubt some CCP fanatics, but one should not make generalizations.
It's funny how quickly they wither under the least bit of scrutiny
Perhaps you haven’t met any, but there are plenty of lovely, warm, friendly Chinese people.
Don’t confuse the CCP or the idiots on these videos with the population at large. Otherwise, we become as bad as the CCP are.
I hope the person that filmed this reported this to the police as vandalism; a charge like that being upheld should result in expulsion. Especially at Uni of Queensland
Really like the awesome work man :)
Next time I see one of them I will tell them “Nanjing massacre was so long ago who cares”
Exact same logic
@@serpentza bingo
They tried it a my former university in Germany.
Didn't turn out well for them since one of them thought it's a good idea to push a friend of mine who is from Russia. 🤣
Lessons were learned
Russians take zero flack and will stand their ground. Old saying about cowardice: I ran from the wolf and ran into a bear. Basically tackling a small fight may prevent a larger one.
@@afrosheenix Something I wish more people would realize.
Kick them out. We need to limit Chinese agents in Western colleges.
My university actually caught a university employee for being a spy for the ccp. He tired to steal a bunch of sensitive documents but his usb or something was found and the fbi investigated it.
you kick them out, some of your professors need to be laid off.
Thank you for shining a light on this. I don't think most people know about this. It is especially helpful to understand how the young people's minds work- that the government has conditioned them to do this and doesn't even have to tell them directly. This also helps explain the level of control internally in China.
I worked in an australian university and its sad how much they rely on chinese students they represent so much of their revenue they lost like 4 billion dollars because of covid as a result i lost my job there, chinese students pay 50 or 60 grand each, which would be like 40k USD per year.
Still no reason to let them spread the sick propaganda they've been brainwashed with. It seems our Universities are no longer placesr of learninga and have long since devolved into satellite states of the CCP.
I worked in a US university and it was similar (including the loss of my job due to COVID and no one wanting to sit in their home country and pay US tuition to study at 02:00 local time). One difference was that our university didn't get on the Chinese student bandwagon quite fast enough--sure we had some Ss from China, but the largest portion were Korean or other Asian countries.
That said, it was always interesting to see the classroom dynamics shift due to diverse cultures colliding--it's hard to demonize someone when you actually know them and not just what your government has told you about them!
It's similar to that in Canada - we have prostituted our educational system to the triple-fees-paying Chinese students. As "JMB Aug 12" points out above, the quality of these students is pathetically low, yet they are advanced year by year and graduate having experienced nothing and learned nothing. Cheating, plagiarism, lowered standards, and liberal marking paving the spiralling road to mediocrity.
Universities have changed their focus from being a seat of learning and debate to a focus of generating assets and money, which is having an adverse effect on communities in University towns as our culture, social norms and values are blatantly ignored and disrespect by the thousands of Chinese students taking up residence in established communities.
@@cubepsychology7511 As I say with most things: Mainly due to Financialization.
It would be cool if people responded by hanging up MORE clippings and posters. As well as handing out information on the CCP and pamphlets detailing the history they want to highlight. If I posted things, and someone thought they had a right to tear them down, I would kick into OVERDRIVE. Before it was done, they'd probably think that Lennon wall postings would be better than the alternative. The campuses should just post notices indicating that anyone tearing down others' postings will be expelled.
"why are you concerned about something that happened decades ago?"
says the type of person who would hate on japan for existing
Good coverage, I wasn't aware of this!
In my digital media class a few years ago there were a few international chinese students and most my art centers around the independence of Hong Kong, one project I photoshopped Xi Jinping’s face onto Poohs and my teacher showed them. I was worried but they laughed it off and made something similar for their projects! Those are the ones that we need to protect from the government, I hope they’re doing okay.
I wonder what will happen to foreign students in China if they were to do this same thing the Chinese students are doing in Australia
Disappeared and organ harvested.
Bashed by the local students and then disappeared via fake suicide..
This shows again, that things are always worse than you think. :-)
Knew students from China working in a friends company that all got found guilty in spying and sending pictures from every confidential paper they got to see back to China.