Feels godawful to use apart from the damage, no wonder it's not in his top 10, noobs will preach it like no tomorrow but it really is just dogshit to handle
Note on Epitaph: The charged shots have insanely high crit chance and guaranteed impact proc, so with the Hemorrhage mod it can actually be a pretty good dps tool. Even more so because you can use it as a primer for itself with Galv shot.
KOMPRESSA GANG!!!!! Emerald shards broke it as a primer!!! Has innate Viral allowing you to mod for Corrosive and Cold, thus allowing you to full strip, prime max Viral stacks, prime max Cold stacks, and Encumber to max out every other status for you. This thing was my go to primer for Disruption before we got emerald archon shards, I haven't used a different primer since we got them (except for heat inherit setups, which I typically use my Tysis for due to my Heat + Faction damage riven). It's so good! With that being said, the Knell Prime is probably my favorite secondary. I like weapons with unique mechanics that reward skilled play, like the Dual Toxocyst, and the Knell hits the nail on the head for me...plus it does REALLY solid damage.
Sevagoth (with his augment) and Kuva Nukor is nutty. Kuva nukor has low crit change so crit dmg is overlooked even tho it has really high crit multiplier but Sevagoth you can utilize that Crit Nukor
Just an editing feedback: pls show the weapon in the arsenal or foundry when you talk about it. At least for a bit… I wanna see what it looks like and associate the name with a gun.
My most used Secondary is epitaph for obvious reason, I dont really use secondaries as main damage source, I usually want them to have some ulity aspect (and I dont have Nukor) but my favourite secondary as an actual secondary is Pyrana prime without a doubt I know it is not the strongest, but it has the best gimmick in the entire game, and it just "feels powerful" also on the side note, I love that someone placed twin kohmaks in the honorable mention, I love those things, most dual weilding secondaries but they are probably my favourite out of the bunch Edit: How could I forget the cyanex, my 2nd most used secondary, its a bit niche of a primer but it is very fun to use with its richochetting homing projectiles and gas procs
Interesting, i will look into cyanex cause i remember when i levelled it up for mr it seemed decent but I didnt really think about trying it because it wasnt interesting enough to me. Now i am intruiged
@@WispGraxx Now theyve added the homing/richochetting mechanic to some incarnons so its not as unique as it used to be. Aand mag to reload ratio is a bit annoying when you are spraying so keep that in mind you might wanna use mod to make it a btit better, stunning speed is decent since it already likes as much status as you can put on it but other than that i is really fun to use, and subjectively, it looks really cool and clean, hope youll have fun using it
@@prodbyANT sometimes you dont care about the most optimal and your monkey brain just wants to see what it would be like if enemies were paper and you had a paper shredder
I love the Cyanex... it's really good for the "kill 20 enemies while riding a k-drive" riven challenge. It's not the most powerful weapon in the game, but you can take it through the entire (regular) star chart with no problem... fire and forget.
You nailed it on sporelacer. Early game with a Nezha or Rhino you are immune to knockback so at MR5 you can do steelpath easy. If you dont go all in with the forma's you wont see its true potential.
Even later, I still use the Sporelacer as my base choice for secondary, if I don't need a primer. For a while, it was the strongest gun I had, including primaries, which was kind of funny.
23:37 because of this part, the little marked for death synergies, that I actually pick up this helminth ability again, but not on either trinity or revenant. It is someone else, and I cooked.
I believed after seeing the Buzlok in the honorable mentions for the primaries, but now I know for certain after seeing the Twin Kohmak in the same category for the secondaries: you know ball
@@AziSlays Secondary encumber, and some base damage and it ramps the damage insanely fast with Galvanized Shot. It's my hard target eliminator next to an Incarnon Laetum.
Best secondary for Yareli - Cyanex. Great for the CO meta, lets you focus on driving. Which you need, given the board's potential and wonkyness. Fast moving Mesa, in any mission other than silly long runs.
The compressa is gate locked behind the vent kids like rank 4 or in my opinion a way too much plat to buy from the shop. I feel like that is a main reason that it is not talked about a lot
Lists like these should probably be titled "my 10 favorite secondary weapons" but I still find videos like these to be more entertaining, since they call my attention to new weapons I haven't considered as opposed to repeating the same 10 weapons again
I'll throw a couple out there; - Kunai Incarnon: SUPER FUN AND ONE SHOT AUTO HEADSHOT GALORE; especially with the amazing "death-trap-trigger" evolution - Cyanex: auto-homing missile launcher, surprisingly shreds with a proper Viral/Heat setup - Tenet Cyron: I LOVE BEAMS, and the infinite Ammo in this one is fantastic. Personally i run it as a Heat Dps weapon - Lato Vandal Incarnon: The bit more lowkey Ricocheting secondary, with the wonderful "death-trap-trigger" evolution, which like the Kunai Incarnon, gives you an insane CC and CD buff for 4 seconds after switching from your primary, love the !!! damage numbers 🤣
Cyanex used to be absolutely amazing with Mag. The primary went through her bubbles to kill nullys and the secondary shredded like a blender. They changed it though unfortunately 😢
With the Nukor, I recently spawned one for whispers content. Generated a rad progenitor. And to be increasingly silly, I’ve modded it purely for rad. I know, I know. It’s a work in progress. Still need to max out the new electric prime mod to further increase the rad output.
as a relative newbie to the game who just got into making incarnon weapons, i 100% agree with the laetum. It's fun to kill everything within 5~10 bullets with incarnon but charging that gauge is so darn painful since the bullet speed makes headshots inconsistent.
On more static missions, I love the Azima alternate fire with radiation. It lets me CC a big area and takes care of nullies that get near it. I find it to complement well the explosive weapons I love playing
All the experimented players know about the sporelacer is one of the best burst aoe damage in secondaries and had universal builds, crits, brute damage or elemental. That weapon carrying me to many time and always save my life in low ammo circunstances. For that reason still in every top like tier S and the nukor is not than incredible suffer so much in long fights for me because the ammo efficiency is the top 9 or 10.
Laetum for SP, backup for when Ninja say hi. Just a single target meltdown. Sporelacer, I don't free roam without it. Effective in any open map. Epitaph, for any heat primer builds. Ocucor has taken more gameplay over Nukor since the augment, otherwise they are basically similar to me in usability. iLex for the Ninja 1 shot. If they were to remove all secondary weapons tomorrow, the only one I would miss will be Sporelacer or Laetum.
The Sporelacer is my goto for most high-level missions. I like to put Pax Charge on there, since you don't have to worry about ammo, and it reloads almost instantly. I have a good riven (104.3% cc, 68.8% toxin, -0.1 [!] dmg to Corpus) which also can be used on the Primary version.
Why is the primary version of the sporelacer a shotgun and why does it have 2 meter explosion like.. I was so disappointed. The secondary sporelacer is goated
@@WispGraxx With the riven, and the fact that it's an auto-shotty, it gets red crits consistently. So for me, it's a top-tier weapon. Don't bring it to missions with radiation everywhere -- you'll down your teammates alot. :)
I commented super late, but I just wanted to say I love your list of guns, your top primaries got me to use battacor and now its one of my most used primaries.
I want to see a video with Bubonico vs Shedu. Or a shedu showcase since you said you prefer it because considering how hard it is to farm it feels underwhelming to me.
Another Banger! I love many of these, i'm just a weapon junky. I juice the hell out of every weapon i get my hands on, but when it comes to Warframes, i don't put more than 2 Forma in 🤣
Me: Hmmm I feel like I'm missing out on other guns that might be better than my Sporelacer. *Sees Sporelacer in #2 with all the positives that I also loved about it being reassured* Me: Damn, guess it's still you and me bud.
With the confirmation that we will have the infested equivalent of the liches this year any infested, corpus or grinner weapon (remember that when the sisters arrived the liches also got new weapons) has to be quarantined until we have news. PS: A big problem that incarnon weapons have is their inconsistency (they are great at times but only at times) if the base weapon is a prime weapon then little problem because at least it has the stats to be at least competent but when it is not the case...
My favorite secondary has to he the grimoire but only when it's on gauss. It performs OK but what sells it for me as a weapon as a whole is how unique it is and after you spend alot of time inside wf you want something that breaks the mold and gives you a unique experience
The problem with Laetum is that Laetum is balanced around levelcap. Buffed up and properly built In normal missions it will have trouble changing incarnon cause it deals to much damage. If you use it in levelcap with xatas whisper it will feel like how its supposed to feel in base steel path. When its full potential is unleashed It kills faster and more effortlessly than even dual toxo. I used to love it then I liked it less (I went through a similar phase as you are) now that I discovered Void Cascade I love it more than the first time I got it.
My favorite is Mara Detron it’s my beloved pocket shotty but all the weapons on the list r awesome def gonna try out sporelacer, also staticor I see it in the comments I got the bp but never built it
I love my Prisma Angstrum Incarnon. Yeah it isn't maybe the strongest thing ever, but I pair it with Scourge Prime for those headshot attractors and I used to great success in the Fragmented one boss fight operation with my Clan.
Phyranna prime is my kinda go to when I don't think I can charge up. There are enemies that have no heads/headshot weakness that might invalidate half of these weapons, and some are status immune/capped like I thnk liches? But I guess that falls into a niche rather than a general purpose secondary.
Melee Crescendo is not needed for Secondary Outburst (ex with Catabolyst) imo. It'll be nice when people have it but for now nobody's got a full one of those and it's annoying to use with a low rank one. Instead, use Ceramic Dagger. Slap the +initial combo stuff on it. With the built in stuff and normal mods it'll hit 166, or 9x combo. Alright, not amazing i admit. With a riven with 34 initial combo on it (which is doable on a 3 buff with curse riven or a 2 buff riven) you'll hit 200 initial combo for a 11x combo multiplier. To be honest that's good enough for most purposes. However, if you got a low roll riven and want to run with it or just want one more multiplier you can run Ready Steel (with a 30 initial combo or better riven, almost any initial combo roll works here) for the full 220 initial combo/12x multiplier (or 10x without the riven). Or run some of the Ceramic Dagger stuff and then run Melee Crescendo on it if you want, i dunno.
Of course! But I will need to farm the new arcanes first. I delayed the quest a lot so that DE could first fix the bugs it had so I am only now starting to work on it. It will take a while but you know, all in good time :D
Isnt the description wrong? About PUNCHTROUGH on chaining weapons like the Nukor, it doesnt create new chains per punchtrough hit. You can test that on simulacrum with 6 enemies lined up 3 close to you and 3 further away
@@jofipa9953 if there is 2 enemies in a straight line and you shoot the nukor, it will hit both with the initial beam. Because of that the first target will seek 2 extra targets and the other target will seek another different 2 targets, adding more aoe to the gun
Best secondary is a 60% heat tenet cycron... unlimited ammo makes it better than the Kuva Nukor because a Nukor without ammo is useless which is all thetime. I agree with sporelacer it is OP. Laetum is great for Archons disruptors acolytes but sometime the headshots don't count and sometime lag causes you to lose the charge because you hit the incarn key wait nothing hit again and quickly goes incarn and back to reg.
To get the canticle mods to work on the Grimoire, all you have to do is have an enemy die by a DoT applied by a different weapon. Unload slash ticks with you primary and swap to your Grimoire before they die. They activate this way too. Also, was that Skeler I heard in the background? GREAT TASTE MY FRIEND!!!
Epitaph is in your top 10 and I STILL think you're sleeping on it. This is a gun that can prime for ITSELF, with the new prime having the single highest crit chance of any pistol at a terrifying 50%, plus it applies MULTIPICATIVE GUNCO on both charged and uncharged direct hits, so this thing can EASILY be the solo star of an endurance run.
Hey man so I just wanna give some love, I just saw the top primary weapons video and started this one, I felt the need to get out of the meta stuff cause it just got a bit boring and repetitive (hella funny the comments on knightmareframe's video) and lemme just start off by agreeing with ur opinion on Laetum. Im a baby tenno (just turned mr15 after 2 months of grinding from mr9) in the middle of this incarnon chaos and all im seeing is Phenmor and Laetum. Now they re both amazing but man stopping all that momentum and action to try to get headshots with Laetum... man the worst investment i could ve ever done. Been fun for about 2 hours but that was it. Also i really wanna give Stahlta and the other off meta primaries in ur video a shot especially now I finally got Gauss prime and got into some energized munitions acceltra shenanigans. Cheers!
So a bit of an update, I made the investment and got myself the Stahlta. At first very underwhelming, felt like slapping the Sp grineer but I said imma go all the way it cant be that bad. 4 Forma later I was 2 tapping them with primer and after 2 or 3 kills (deadhead) primer no longer needed. The alt fire needs 2 shots to fully kill them but switching around mods for multishot fixed that and I got very lucky buying a trash riven for it cheap and at the 4th reroll got dmg cit chance and crit dmg. Im personally more into AOE weapons but this one really takes the cake and imma be using it for netracell runs and higher content. All in all thanks man for the recommendation.
Well with occuor can just take a cedo in for priming and DMG in disruption if, needed but, would agree wouldn't useally run for it like this and would do a primer 2ndary on average disruption runs / use
for the Lex, if you add a projectile speed riven and terminal velocity you can get ~150 proj speed. this takes the base 28m range to 70m. i got a riven with 4.9 punch through and 110 proj speed. i can shoot through multiple walls and floors quorvex adds another 3 punch even more if you use a jetstream zephyr oh and incarnon shot is guaranteed impact... so hemorrhage lol!
I just came back to warframe after a 3yr break and I've been watching a few videos on the new good gear and you're a funny ass dude, I don't want you to jump off a bridge and molly my bean in the background of the ocucor goes hard af. On an unrelated note, I like the direction the game went in the meantime. I left cuz I didn't wanna bother with all the annoying rng for certain warframe and weapon farms, kuva lich etc and being locked out of arbitrations when they added new war and zariman. But I made up some ground recently and I haven't had this much fun in a long time now doing steel path circuit and void cascade Edit: btw can you hook us up with your sporelacer parts?
2:03 Hey again Moug, I know it feels like I'm nitpicking and I'm sorry but the total 10,000 damage value displayed is including multishot in it's calculation. It's not 250,000 after multishot, it's just 424.23 per pellet * 24.9
My sporelacer has 9 formas. I built it by coincidence cause I simply wanted to do something with the reputation i earned in deimos to get the vulpaphila, and honestly nothing and I mean nothing has come close to how mindless the sporelacer makes the game. Forget headshots, I do floorshots with this thing and it evaporates the enemy, and with pax charge it reloads near instantly The only bad thing about this weapon is the bad habits i developed, i can't headshot anymore lmfao, i suck at it, even tho I was super good at it when i started the game
i'm still not sure how i feel about the incarnon weapons, but your issue with them is basically the same i have with them. i just want "pull trigger, death happens." if i wanted a weapon with a "weird" charging mechanic i'll use the Battacor, or the Trumna. i'm still looking for which warframe creator(s) will do a video top 10 of "incarnons" and then top 10 of "non incarnons" for a definite list players can aim for. Though i suppose the incarnon weapon(s) are way too powerful for any normal weapon variant to actually matter.
With sporelancer can combine with an argonok to armour strip with the almalgemated mods of impact processing so can take it to much higher levels of SP then just level 500 aswell
Also another reasone Laetum shouldnt be top 10 anymore is because random warframe buffs giving crit in the current meta if your in public group will rune the damage bonus.
My current fav Secondary weapon is the Kunai Incarnon i really love playing it on Ivara. Could you tell me what mods you use on the Tenet Plinx ? i just recently picked it up and it kinda feels like a Secondary Stahlta to me, im just not sure how to mod it properly.
Full crit/ crit damage and a riven is useful despite the low disposition. You can use pax charge on it for a fortuna arcane that will passively reload the weapon automatically. You can also equip arcane awakening on the warframe for another 150% damage but it doesn't work with pax charge. Sporelacer/haymaker/ splat.
Well almost same as aaron said but with killstream instead of splat and drop pax charge for any utility pax arcane you may like. It has really fast reload speed with killstream and won't lose any of the damage
I have both the zylok and the zylok prime, i have the incarnon adapter and i even have a zylok riven. the reason it still sits on the shelf for me and many people is because its incarnon is bugged where it doesn't account for any modded multishot, that destroyed its damage potential and de has so far neglected it, therefore, as will i.
16:53 I still didn't try the Kompressa and I'm farming Voruna ATM, quick question: Veruna's 2, Fangs of Raksh, just spreads the condis it creates of if I prime a enemy with this gun (or others that can do that) I can spread a lethal bomb of condis eo clear the screen? Ty.
You're giving me a little hope for Warframe youtubers. 😂😂😂 I don't think I've ever said that before. 🤔 A lot of people misunderstand the purpose of incarnon weapons. So it's refreshing to see your list not packed full of them. Incarnon was added to weapons that are otherwise struggling to perform as well as weapons without incarnon. Imagine incarnon on say the Fulmin Prime or Sybaris prime. It would be insane. 😂😂 I got level cap numbers after a just a few mods on them. I guess my brother met you in game and referred me to your channel. Keep up the good work man.
im using CEDO on my mirage because the glaives + multishot are just OP crazyprime whole romms and kill SP stuff on its own but i kinda lack use for secondary what would you reccommend me for secondary for RAW DAMAGE that has good ammo efficiency, dosnt require too much precision, isnt status based (already have plenty of that) ,and if incarnon is easy to trigger ? prefably something like acylote killer i was thinking about book or kitguns as support (getting more power strenght) but idk, i feel like dedicated archon/acylote killer would be better dont take me wrong, i dont lack damage on cedo (priming with prety much all statuses + shotgun is great to kill eximuses) nor melee (kills everything but it relies on slash ALOT of small slashes so isnt that good aganist acylotes) but i feel i have no use for secondary atm and i want to change that by having it as acylote/boss killer i guess
Noticed an issue with your dual toxocyst build. You're using Carnage Reign instead of Fevered Frenzy. gunCO doesn't count the base damage increases from incarnon evolutions, so it's better to take fevered frenzy for the extra multishot. Mathematically fevered frenzy beats out carnage reign at as little as 7 stacks. Plus multishot will help you build incarnon faster and help you get more value out of your incarnon meter.
I knew when he put the laetum in honorable mentions it had to cause controversy 🤣🤣
😂 love it
Feels godawful to use apart from the damage, no wonder it's not in his top 10, noobs will preach it like no tomorrow but it really is just dogshit to handle
Note on Epitaph: The charged shots have insanely high crit chance and guaranteed impact proc, so with the Hemorrhage mod it can actually be a pretty good dps tool. Even more so because you can use it as a primer for itself with Galv shot.
KOMPRESSA GANG!!!!! Emerald shards broke it as a primer!!! Has innate Viral allowing you to mod for Corrosive and Cold, thus allowing you to full strip, prime max Viral stacks, prime max Cold stacks, and Encumber to max out every other status for you. This thing was my go to primer for Disruption before we got emerald archon shards, I haven't used a different primer since we got them (except for heat inherit setups, which I typically use my Tysis for due to my Heat + Faction damage riven). It's so good! With that being said, the Knell Prime is probably my favorite secondary. I like weapons with unique mechanics that reward skilled play, like the Dual Toxocyst, and the Knell hits the nail on the head for me...plus it does REALLY solid damage.
You can also use cascadia empowered and just straight up kill with it
Sevagoth (with his augment) and Kuva Nukor is nutty. Kuva nukor has low crit change so crit dmg is overlooked even tho it has really high crit multiplier but Sevagoth you can utilize that Crit Nukor
How could you not play Sevagoth with his own weapon, the epitaph?
@@Nakorli Cause the Epitaph is mid when it comes to killing entire rooms? Who gives a fuck who uses what weapon with their frame
10. Zylok Prime - 7:50
9. Lex Prime - 8:48
8. Catabolyst - 10:13
7. Epitaph - 12:03
6. Furis - 13:16
5. Dual Toxocyst - 15:04
4. Kompressa - 17:00
3. Ocucor - 18:38
2. Sporelacer - 20:38
1. Kuva Nukor - 22:59
Just an editing feedback: pls show the weapon in the arsenal or foundry when you talk about it. At least for a bit… I wanna see what it looks like and associate the name with a gun.
My most used Secondary is epitaph for obvious reason, I dont really use secondaries as main damage source, I usually want them to have some ulity aspect (and I dont have Nukor)
but my favourite secondary as an actual secondary is Pyrana prime without a doubt
I know it is not the strongest, but it has the best gimmick in the entire game, and it just "feels powerful"
also on the side note, I love that someone placed twin kohmaks in the honorable mention, I love those things, most dual weilding secondaries but they are probably my favourite out of the bunch
Edit: How could I forget the cyanex, my 2nd most used secondary, its a bit niche of a primer but it is very fun to use with its richochetting homing projectiles and gas procs
Interesting, i will look into cyanex cause i remember when i levelled it up for mr it seemed decent but I didnt really think about trying it because it wasnt interesting enough to me. Now i am intruiged
@@WispGraxx Now theyve added the homing/richochetting mechanic to some incarnons so its not as unique as it used to be. Aand mag to reload ratio is a bit annoying when you are spraying so keep that in mind you might wanna use mod to make it a btit better, stunning speed is decent since it already likes as much status as you can put on it
but other than that i is really fun to use, and subjectively, it looks really cool and clean, hope youll have fun using it
Pyrana Prime, I see you're a man of culture as well.
@@prodbyANT sometimes you dont care about the most optimal and your monkey brain just wants to see what it would be like if enemies were paper and you had a paper shredder
I love the Cyanex... it's really good for the "kill 20 enemies while riding a k-drive" riven challenge. It's not the most powerful weapon in the game, but you can take it through the entire (regular) star chart with no problem... fire and forget.
You nailed it on sporelacer. Early game with a Nezha or Rhino you are immune to knockback so at MR5 you can do steelpath easy. If you dont go all in with the forma's you wont see its true potential.
Even later, I still use the Sporelacer as my base choice for secondary, if I don't need a primer. For a while, it was the strongest gun I had, including primaries, which was kind of funny.
@@Turjan_Miir Same. I have several secondary incarnon's but still find myself equiping sporelacer for many missions especially speed killing missions.
LR3 - Use the Sporelacer on nearly all of my frames for steel path up to lvl 4-5000.
Sporelacer is incredible...until it runs into armor.
But with a 100% armor strip its fantastic.
@@DrewBoivie Subsumed fireblast with corrosive projection and it nukes hard.
I liked this list because it actually spoke on the annoyance of charging certain incarnon weapons.
23:37 because of this part, the little marked for death synergies, that I actually pick up this helminth ability again, but not on either trinity or revenant. It is someone else, and I cooked.
drop the combo bro
@@agus_devo too late, made a video about it
4:45 the Grimoire alt-fire does not have to kill enemies - just tag them to gain the Invocation buffs
also applies for the canticles from what I've heard
Grimoire is nice for energy hungry frames
I believed after seeing the Buzlok in the honorable mentions for the primaries, but now I know for certain after seeing the Twin Kohmak in the same category for the secondaries: you know ball
Twin Kohmak shreds hard
@@AziSlays Secondary encumber, and some base damage and it ramps the damage insanely fast with Galvanized Shot. It's my hard target eliminator next to an Incarnon Laetum.
Best secondary for Yareli - Cyanex. Great for the CO meta, lets you focus on driving. Which you need, given the board's potential and wonkyness. Fast moving Mesa, in any mission other than silly long runs.
Lots of people said cyanex, I am rebuilding it rn to give it a try
The compressa is gate locked behind the vent kids like rank 4 or in my opinion a way too much plat to buy from the shop. I feel like that is a main reason that it is not talked about a lot
For sure. I straight up bought mine with plat
@@WispGraxx I am L3 played for 1.5k hours and i still can not be bothered to buy or lvl up vent kids
@@henryrielley4699Just do the daily races and you get there after 2 weeks (15 mins daily investment and it is actually fun).
@@henryrielley4699 Skill issue
Lists like these should probably be titled "my 10 favorite secondary weapons" but I still find videos like these to be more entertaining, since they call my attention to new weapons I haven't considered as opposed to repeating the same 10 weapons again
I'll throw a couple out there;
- Kunai Incarnon: SUPER FUN AND ONE SHOT AUTO HEADSHOT GALORE; especially with the amazing "death-trap-trigger" evolution
- Cyanex: auto-homing missile launcher, surprisingly shreds with a proper Viral/Heat setup
- Tenet Cyron: I LOVE BEAMS, and the infinite Ammo in this one is fantastic. Personally i run it as a Heat Dps weapon
- Lato Vandal Incarnon: The bit more lowkey Ricocheting secondary, with the wonderful "death-trap-trigger" evolution, which like the Kunai Incarnon, gives you an insane CC and CD buff for 4 seconds after switching from your primary, love the !!! damage numbers 🤣
said kunai twice lol
Cyanex used to be absolutely amazing with Mag. The primary went through her bubbles to kill nullys and the secondary shredded like a blender.
They changed it though unfortunately 😢
which one is better cyanex or zakti prime?
@@metalheadzaki Cyanex! More fun too, homing rockets
With the Nukor, I recently spawned one for whispers content. Generated a rad progenitor. And to be increasingly silly, I’ve modded it purely for rad. I know, I know. It’s a work in progress. Still need to max out the new electric prime mod to further increase the rad output.
I mean it does fit with the unique microwave status it can deal
Great list! Big fan of the Laetum but happy to try these other options. I use the Nukor often, but about to build a Sporelacer! Thanks for the vid!
Ill have a laetum video uploaded later today if you are interested
as a relative newbie to the game who just got into making incarnon weapons, i 100% agree with the laetum. It's fun to kill everything within 5~10 bullets with incarnon but charging that gauge is so darn painful since the bullet speed makes headshots inconsistent.
Relative newbie??.....awawa...TwT I've been playing fo years an I habn caught up to incarnon stuff yet
Staticor Is my son In this game, a blindness love.. no matter how many ppl says it a meh tier or less In my eyes it's just an S+ tier.
Based
what’s your build brother man?
@@notactuallycarterStack Status.
I remember in the past it used to ragdoll enemies to another universe alongside the sonicor, but sadly that got deleted
On more static missions, I love the Azima alternate fire with radiation. It lets me CC a big area and takes care of nullies that get near it.
I find it to complement well the explosive weapons I love playing
You got that thing to be useful?? TwT
All the experimented players know about the sporelacer is one of the best burst aoe damage in secondaries and had universal builds, crits, brute damage or elemental. That weapon carrying me to many time and always save my life in low ammo circunstances. For that reason still in every top like tier S and the nukor is not than incredible suffer so much in long fights for me because the ammo efficiency is the top 9 or 10.
Laetum for SP, backup for when Ninja say hi. Just a single target meltdown.
Sporelacer, I don't free roam without it. Effective in any open map.
Epitaph, for any heat primer builds.
Ocucor has taken more gameplay over Nukor since the augment, otherwise they are basically similar to me in usability.
iLex for the Ninja 1 shot.
If they were to remove all secondary weapons tomorrow, the only one I would miss will be Sporelacer or Laetum.
The Sporelacer is my goto for most high-level missions. I like to put Pax Charge on there, since you don't have to worry about ammo, and it reloads almost instantly. I have a good riven (104.3% cc, 68.8% toxin, -0.1 [!] dmg to Corpus) which also can be used on the Primary version.
Why is the primary version of the sporelacer a shotgun and why does it have 2 meter explosion like.. I was so disappointed. The secondary sporelacer is goated
@@WispGraxx With the riven, and the fact that it's an auto-shotty, it gets red crits consistently. So for me, it's a top-tier weapon. Don't bring it to missions with radiation everywhere -- you'll down your teammates alot. :)
I got a DMG cc -corp spore lacer it's so fucking nice 👍 red crits like all the time
Awesome build. i like the staticor!
Oh my god, finally. Someone else that likes it. I have been trying to make it good for months
great video and i love that you add screen shots of builds in the description
keep up the good work
I really like your videos because your not just another warframe content creator NPC
Video starts at 07:24
I commented super late, but I just wanted to say I love your list of guns, your top primaries got me to use battacor and now its one of my most used primaries.
Great list. My most used secondaries are the Sporelacer and the Ocucor.
I want to see a video with Bubonico vs Shedu.
Or a shedu showcase since you said you prefer it because considering how hard it is to farm it feels underwhelming to me.
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have this for now
Sporelacer and kuva nukor are my favourite secondaries and most used. They are both insane
Pax Charge on Sporelacer and zero ammo problems.. you can spam it all day long and it's so much fun!
Good list. Your list is pretty much all my main secondary weapons. Nukor is also my most used weapon. Im a Wisp main also.. :) 10/10
Tenet Cycron for me. Does help I got a juicy riven for it. Magnetic, Corrosive and lots of Heat ftw.
Another Banger!
I love many of these, i'm just a weapon junky.
I juice the hell out of every weapon i get my hands on, but when it comes to Warframes, i don't put more than 2 Forma in 🤣
Me: Hmmm I feel like I'm missing out on other guns that might be better than my Sporelacer.
*Sees Sporelacer in #2 with all the positives that I also loved about it being reassured*
Me: Damn, guess it's still you and me bud.
i have been using spore lacer for ages since 2020 lmao glad to know its still busted
With the confirmation that we will have the infested equivalent of the liches this year any infested, corpus or grinner weapon (remember that when the sisters arrived the liches also got new weapons) has to be quarantined until we have news.
PS: A big problem that incarnon weapons have is their inconsistency (they are great at times but only at times) if the base weapon is a prime weapon then little problem because at least it has the stats to be at least competent but when it is not the case...
i really enjoy using the lato vandal incarnon, idk what it is, its just super satisfying
I really like Prisma Angstrum Incarnon, maybe its not meta but very easy to make it incarnon and pew pew after :D
It do be kind of meta. Its in the honorable mentions for a reason, its very good
My favorite secondary has to he the grimoire but only when it's on gauss. It performs OK but what sells it for me as a weapon as a whole is how unique it is and after you spend alot of time inside wf you want something that breaks the mold and gives you a unique experience
Hi, thanks for your video. After seeing it my dmg cc fr +recoil (neg) bubo has regained my attention
5:36 🤣🤣🤣 this was just too funny. completely agreed on what you said about laetum
Sporelacer is godlike. I've been using it forever.
The problem with Laetum is that Laetum is balanced around levelcap. Buffed up and properly built In normal missions it will have trouble changing incarnon cause it deals to much damage. If you use it in levelcap with xatas whisper it will feel like how its supposed to feel in base steel path. When its full potential is unleashed It kills faster and more effortlessly than even dual toxo.
I used to love it then I liked it less (I went through a similar phase as you are) now that I discovered Void Cascade I love it more than the first time I got it.
My favorite is Mara Detron it’s my beloved pocket shotty but all the weapons on the list r awesome def gonna try out sporelacer, also staticor I see it in the comments I got the bp but never built it
I love my Prisma Angstrum Incarnon. Yeah it isn't maybe the strongest thing ever, but I pair it with Scourge Prime for those headshot attractors and I used to great success in the Fragmented one boss fight operation with my Clan.
i agree 100% with nukor it’s hard to even try diff secondaries becus it’s so good i like dual toxics but nukor just too OP
Phyranna prime is my kinda go to when I don't think I can charge up. There are enemies that have no heads/headshot weakness that might invalidate half of these weapons, and some are status immune/capped like I thnk liches? But I guess that falls into a niche rather than a general purpose secondary.
Pyranna is fun af, i wish it had a bit larger mag so i can make better use of its passive
Melee Crescendo is not needed for Secondary Outburst (ex with Catabolyst) imo. It'll be nice when people have it but for now nobody's got a full one of those and it's annoying to use with a low rank one.
Instead, use Ceramic Dagger. Slap the +initial combo stuff on it. With the built in stuff and normal mods it'll hit 166, or 9x combo. Alright, not amazing i admit. With a riven with 34 initial combo on it (which is doable on a 3 buff with curse riven or a 2 buff riven) you'll hit 200 initial combo for a 11x combo multiplier. To be honest that's good enough for most purposes. However, if you got a low roll riven and want to run with it or just want one more multiplier you can run Ready Steel (with a 30 initial combo or better riven, almost any initial combo roll works here) for the full 220 initial combo/12x multiplier (or 10x without the riven).
Or run some of the Ceramic Dagger stuff and then run Melee Crescendo on it if you want, i dunno.
12:52 I love how it took you this long to get bane of grinder. Sometimes RNG is just like that...
I will double down on the “give us a frame video” idea. You have a lot of good information to share and I wanna know it all
Sporelacer is goated
Could you do a vid on your Wisp Prime build? You seem to have a really good build for every occasion while I do not :c
I have one, if you click on my channel its the main video of my channel. Its called 2500 hours on wisp in 1 video
Really liked the primary vid so im excited for this one🤙
Also can we expect a melee list next?😁
Of course! But I will need to farm the new arcanes first. I delayed the quest a lot so that DE could first fix the bugs it had so I am only now starting to work on it. It will take a while but you know, all in good time :D
@@WispGraxx cool! Hopefully your Netracell luck is better than mine because I've barely dropped either of the gold arcanes😭
sad to see the akarius not being on this list :(
Man i love your humor and your videos, keep up the great work
Great reasoning in your video.
Euphona prime is my fav because of the cool gunslinger reload (also does good dmg, don't sleep on it)
You should do another video like this but with your favorite melee weapons
Isnt the description wrong? About PUNCHTROUGH on chaining weapons like the Nukor, it doesnt create new chains per punchtrough hit.
You can test that on simulacrum with 6 enemies lined up 3 close to you and 3 further away
Is the nukor the only exception to the rule? I know for a fact the Torid incarnon and Amprex don't have that chaining scaling with punchtrough
@@jofipa9953 if there is 2 enemies in a straight line and you shoot the nukor, it will hit both with the initial beam. Because of that the first target will seek 2 extra targets and the other target will seek another different 2 targets, adding more aoe to the gun
my man doesn't know what the despair does
I do in fact know about it, that is why its in the honorable mentions
@@WispGraxx you don't know it is an explosive weapon
Best secondary is a 60% heat tenet cycron... unlimited ammo makes it better than the Kuva Nukor because a Nukor without ammo is useless which is all thetime. I agree with sporelacer it is OP. Laetum is great for Archons disruptors acolytes but sometime the headshots don't count and sometime lag causes you to lose the charge because you hit the incarn key wait nothing hit again and quickly goes incarn and back to reg.
i literally never run out of Ammo on my Nukor which is just better in every way
Really? ua-cam.com/video/zU1VMRHA4TQ/v-deo.html@@Luferah
To get the canticle mods to work on the Grimoire, all you have to do is have an enemy die by a DoT applied by a different weapon. Unload slash ticks with you primary and swap to your Grimoire before they die. They activate this way too.
Also, was that Skeler I heard in the background? GREAT TASTE MY FRIEND!!!
Kompressa number 4? Thats based.
Epitaph is in your top 10 and I STILL think you're sleeping on it. This is a gun that can prime for ITSELF, with the new prime having the single highest crit chance of any pistol at a terrifying 50%, plus it applies MULTIPICATIVE GUNCO on both charged and uncharged direct hits, so this thing can EASILY be the solo star of an endurance run.
Hey man so I just wanna give some love, I just saw the top primary weapons video and started this one, I felt the need to get out of the meta stuff cause it just got a bit boring and repetitive (hella funny the comments on knightmareframe's video) and lemme just start off by agreeing with ur opinion on Laetum. Im a baby tenno (just turned mr15 after 2 months of grinding from mr9) in the middle of this incarnon chaos and all im seeing is Phenmor and Laetum. Now they re both amazing but man stopping all that momentum and action to try to get headshots with Laetum... man the worst investment i could ve ever done. Been fun for about 2 hours but that was it. Also i really wanna give Stahlta and the other off meta primaries in ur video a shot especially now I finally got Gauss prime and got into some energized munitions acceltra shenanigans. Cheers!
So a bit of an update, I made the investment and got myself the Stahlta. At first very underwhelming, felt like slapping the Sp grineer but I said imma go all the way it cant be that bad. 4 Forma later I was 2 tapping them with primer and after 2 or 3 kills (deadhead) primer no longer needed. The alt fire needs 2 shots to fully kill them but switching around mods for multishot fixed that and I got very lucky buying a trash riven for it cheap and at the 4th reroll got dmg cit chance and crit dmg. Im personally more into AOE weapons but this one really takes the cake and imma be using it for netracell runs and higher content. All in all thanks man for the recommendation.
I would put the Akarius in this top 10, this weapon is even better than the Tenet Envoy
Akarius Prime on the way, we will see its true potential
Well with occuor can just take a cedo in for priming and DMG in disruption if, needed but, would agree wouldn't useally run for it like this and would do a primer 2ndary on average disruption runs / use
The Sporlacer is my most used secondary but im really into the The Zakti Prime right now
for the Lex, if you add a projectile speed riven and terminal velocity you can get ~150 proj speed. this takes the base 28m range to 70m.
i got a riven with 4.9 punch through and 110 proj speed. i can shoot through multiple walls and floors
quorvex adds another 3 punch
even more if you use a jetstream zephyr
oh and incarnon shot is guaranteed impact... so hemorrhage lol!
don't sleep on the vermisplicer either, incredibly easy to use and so nice with a riven
I just came back to warframe after a 3yr break and I've been watching a few videos on the new good gear and you're a funny ass dude, I don't want you to jump off a bridge and molly my bean in the background of the ocucor goes hard af. On an unrelated note, I like the direction the game went in the meantime. I left cuz I didn't wanna bother with all the annoying rng for certain warframe and weapon farms, kuva lich etc and being locked out of arbitrations when they added new war and zariman. But I made up some ground recently and I haven't had this much fun in a long time now doing steel path circuit and void cascade
Edit: btw can you hook us up with your sporelacer parts?
The sporelacer parts are in the description next to the build
@@WispGraxx ah thx my bad
2:03 Hey again Moug, I know it feels like I'm nitpicking and I'm sorry but the total 10,000 damage value displayed is including multishot in it's calculation. It's not 250,000 after multishot, it's just 424.23 per pellet * 24.9
Ye i know i was memeing
bit late, but using something like the scourge's secondary fire can make charging the laetum and dual tox a lot easier to do
pls do like a short or something for the nyx’s build🙏🏾
The nyx setup isnt really mine but I could do it for sure
My sporelacer has 9 formas. I built it by coincidence cause I simply wanted to do something with the reputation i earned in deimos to get the vulpaphila, and honestly nothing and I mean nothing has come close to how mindless the sporelacer makes the game.
Forget headshots, I do floorshots with this thing and it evaporates the enemy, and with pax charge it reloads near instantly
The only bad thing about this weapon is the bad habits i developed, i can't headshot anymore lmfao, i suck at it, even tho I was super good at it when i started the game
This is why you shouldn't spam meta shit, it turns you shit to the game as a whole
my favorite secondary is the staticor. it’s not good … just a cool weapon.
Based staticor enjoyer
@@WispGraxx need the tenet or incarnon immediately
Multishot and gunco wont work for catabolyst grenade build, which is the build where you use the augment. Kinda disappointing.
i'm still not sure how i feel about the incarnon weapons, but your issue with them is basically the same i have with them. i just want "pull trigger, death happens." if i wanted a weapon with a "weird" charging mechanic i'll use the Battacor, or the Trumna.
i'm still looking for which warframe creator(s) will do a video top 10 of "incarnons" and then top 10 of "non incarnons" for a definite list players can aim for. Though i suppose the incarnon weapon(s) are way too powerful for any normal weapon variant to actually matter.
With sporelancer can combine with an argonok to armour strip with the almalgemated mods of impact processing so can take it to much higher levels of SP then just level 500 aswell
Would have also added the Atomos to your honorable mentions it's actually fairly decent
Also another reasone Laetum shouldnt be top 10 anymore is because random warframe buffs giving crit in the current meta if your in public group will rune the damage bonus.
Crit laetum is better anyway. More consistent damage too
Lex prime definitely is classy and it has suave
I love ur list,maybe we can get warframe list next?
I could but i need to play the last 2 frames i never tried. Caliban and Lavos
For me it'd have to be Epitaph at the top, cuz Protea is my favorite frame, and heat inherit Epitaph makes her heat turrets go crazy!
My current fav Secondary weapon is the Kunai Incarnon i really love playing it on Ivara. Could you tell me what mods you use on the Tenet Plinx ? i just recently picked it up and it kinda feels like a Secondary Stahlta to me, im just not sure how to mod it properly.
Oh and for The Melee vid i can suggest you try The Ohma(or Prisma Ohma i Just dondt have it)with Melee Influence on Saryn, it does wonders for me.
nice video! do you mind to give insight of the Sporelacer build?
Full crit/ crit damage and a riven is useful despite the low disposition. You can use pax charge on it for a fortuna arcane that will passively reload the weapon automatically. You can also equip arcane awakening on the warframe for another 150% damage but it doesn't work with pax charge. Sporelacer/haymaker/ splat.
Multishot then crit damage for what buffs damage the most.
Well almost same as aaron said but with killstream instead of splat and drop pax charge for any utility pax arcane you may like. It has really fast reload speed with killstream and won't lose any of the damage
@@WispGraxx true. killstream is better if using arcane awakening.
I have both the zylok and the zylok prime, i have the incarnon adapter and i even have a zylok riven.
the reason it still sits on the shelf for me and many people is because its incarnon is bugged where it doesn't account for any modded multishot, that destroyed its damage potential and de has so far neglected it, therefore, as will i.
16:53 I still didn't try the Kompressa and I'm farming Voruna ATM, quick question: Veruna's 2, Fangs of Raksh, just spreads the condis it creates of if I prime a enemy with this gun (or others that can do that) I can spread a lethal bomb of condis eo clear the screen? Ty.
Alternative for the Riven on Zylok?
My riven replaces Frostbite mod
@@WispGraxx Thanks
You're giving me a little hope for Warframe youtubers. 😂😂😂
I don't think I've ever said that before. 🤔
A lot of people misunderstand the purpose of incarnon weapons. So it's refreshing to see your list not packed full of them.
Incarnon was added to weapons that are otherwise struggling to perform as well as weapons without incarnon.
Imagine incarnon on say the Fulmin Prime or Sybaris prime. It would be insane. 😂😂 I got level cap numbers after a just a few mods on them.
I guess my brother met you in game and referred me to your channel.
Keep up the good work man.
"weapons that were otherwise struggling"
*Looks over torid*
"No hes not talking about you, get back inside"
I never knew Zylok had an incarnon, lots of the weapons too I have, but just can't bother putting in the work to build them
I love the Laetum, but I really cant disagree with him ✌️
Guess i need to build a sporelacer. Whats the best way to build it?
Everything in the description sir
Thanks i'm gonna try these on Yareli and see what works and what doesn't
im using CEDO on my mirage because the glaives + multishot are just OP crazyprime whole romms and kill SP stuff on its own but i kinda lack use for secondary
what would you reccommend me for secondary for RAW DAMAGE that has good ammo efficiency, dosnt require too much precision, isnt status based (already have plenty of that) ,and if incarnon is easy to trigger ? prefably something like acylote killer
i was thinking about book or kitguns as support (getting more power strenght) but idk, i feel like dedicated archon/acylote killer would be better
dont take me wrong, i dont lack damage on cedo (priming with prety much all statuses + shotgun is great to kill eximuses) nor melee (kills everything but it relies on slash ALOT of small slashes so isnt that good aganist acylotes) but i feel i have no use for secondary atm and i want to change that by having it as acylote/boss killer i guess
Looking at your playstyle definitely sporelacer. Get it for those enemies that you cant kill with the cedo
As a new player it would really help to at least see a picture of these weapons
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Noticed an issue with your dual toxocyst build. You're using Carnage Reign instead of Fevered Frenzy. gunCO doesn't count the base damage increases from incarnon evolutions, so it's better to take fevered frenzy for the extra multishot. Mathematically fevered frenzy beats out carnage reign at as little as 7 stacks. Plus multishot will help you build incarnon faster and help you get more value out of your incarnon meter.