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Why Wine Does NOT Get Better With Age
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Have you ever heard anyone say "Aged Wine is Better than Young Wine," "Old Wine is Good Wine," or "Wine Gets Better with Age." Well, we’re going to take this myth, no matter how you say it, and we’re going to bust it.
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What's your old wine horror story? Have you ever tried a wine that tasted like vinegar?
Expensive wine that's corked. That's the worst.
Old wine is expected to be questionable, so if it's good, it's a pleasant surprise. Tasting older wine getting better by the minute, then it drops off the cliff, leaving you to say, "Why didn't I finish it 5-10 minutes ago!"
@@ronmcmartin4513 I had a 2004 Chateauneuf about a month ago that ...."Dropped off the cliff" (I never heard that expression ... great description) within 45 minutes to an hour after opening it. I literally thought "I should have finished this 10 minutes ago!"
Cheers!!
Pierre
@@AstiWines--That's why it's called Shit-enough to Poop!
N. & S. Rhones are some of my favorite wines. It's too bad Cote Rotie & Hermitage are so expensive(St Joseph & Cornas are usually too rustic).
Thank you for this video. That has been the conclusion I've reached. I find young wines 1-3 years old are almost consistently enjoyable, but go back farther - with the same varietal and even winery - and the taste becomes unpleasant and off. They haven't tasted like vinegar, but just sort of a yucky or pukey taste. And these are unoaked dry white wines I'm referring to.
Have been to several wineries in TX and even down in Chile, and while I don't enough to appreciate the tastes, it's always cool to learn. and yes, i'm guilty for always thinking older wine is better! did a bourbon tour in KY too, which was similar but different and still really interesting!
I hear you !! I've been to Texas on several occasions in the last three years, at this point I have not had a lot of good Texas wines. Some of the wines of Chile are really pretty incredible.
I've done several Kentucky bourbon tours. I'm with you....... I don't know that much about Bourbon ....... but I sure did enjoy it.
Cheers!!
Pierre
@@AstiWines i've heard others say they have a hard time finding wines in the area they like, but no shortage of good bourbons in KY! Even TX is getting some good bourbons now.
@@NoLimitsNoRegrets there's a couple of "OK" wineries around Lexington .... but the bourbon distilleries are fantastic.
I recently had a 2012 Groth Cabernet (their entry level offering) and I was blown away at how much more approachable it was than a recent 2016 or 2017. Are you saying I shouldn't hold my 2015 Chateau Smith Haut Lafitte for a couple more years?
Like many things, they develop different taste and aroma profiles with age. It is whether u like it or not. Of course some wines with high level of certain elements, like tannins and oak, that make them hard to be approachable in their youth for most drinkers, will benefit from some aging to ease off the rough edges hopefully.
Many inexpensive wines are meant to be enjoyed within 3-5 yrs of harvest to retain the fruit flavour since there is very little else in them to be developed with time.
or maybe you just like to pay more for shitier taste :)
Thank you. As far as I have experienced, some high-quality wines, as you say, may get better: certain Bordeaux (those marked as Grand Cru Classé), high-end Rhones such as Hermitages and Chateauneuf-du-Papes, and maybe some Burgundy wines depending on the amount of tannin and producers. I wouldn't, however, wait more than 10 years to open a good Burgundy wine. In Italy, Barollos are known to age gracefully, in Spain, La Riojas can last as long as 30 years (for some).
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I like clear and direct positions. Thanks for that. However, I have to strongly disgree with what you are saying. There are clear chemical processes (esterification and oxidation) and arguments for aged wines. Great 20-30 old aged wines outperform young wines just analytically by having way more and diverse flavour compounds. Just based on analytics (LC-MS).
who the fuck cares about the chemical process if the wine tastes worse
@@josepollman3137 Because they just taste better and you are drinking wines without aging potential or wrongly stored wines and then you generalize based on that. Education is power. Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.
@@BeatPOWERvomPowerhof so I need to learn what tastes better :) I think you like the price my neighbor makes better wine than some of the expensive shit from France
@@josepollman3137 Taste is as everything else also a matter of work and performance not a gift.
@@BeatPOWERvomPowerhof OK :)
Love watching your videos
the year printed on the label is the year that it got bottled or the year that they put it in the barrel?
It’s the year of the harvest
I am just confused about how old wine is the same proof but you dont get as intoxicated. And it doesnt taste.. as alcoholic.
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Noticed that too lol
I found wine from 1960 and it taste amazing I even sold it to friends
Ken,
Some of these oldies can definitely be goodies!!!
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I can't agree less with this video. I find most big reds unpalatable when young. They need time for the tannins to soften. Cabernet is particularly ghastly under five years. Even Pinot Noir softens with a couple of years bottle age. Most whites are more approachable when young.
Thomas,
Personally, I agree with you.....However ..... I do have friends who love a big Tannin and fruit forward (Fruit Bombs) of a young cab.
This is a classic example of everybody has their own personal preferences and tastes.
Actually, I prefer Old World wines to New World wines.
Thank you for the comment.
Cheers!!
Pierre
"Old wine is ALWAYS better than new wine" ...But no one says that, except an ignorant wine snob(Asti-I'm sure you've met many of them).
I agree that proper wine storage is the most important part about drinking older wines.
If you do Not have proper storage, pour into a 4-cup Pyrex measuring container or carafe(nothing fancy) for 15 minutes to an hour(depending on the wine). Then, I would agree with Asti.
I also agree that long-term wines(usually European, or Calif. Cab) don't age as long, now. The 2 wines shown in the video are not wines for aging(Fume Blanc, drink 1-2 years from vintage date. The Bordeaux Superieur, 4-6 years, WITH proper storage). Or, I would decant a current-vintage Bordeaux Superieur for 15-30 minutes before dinner.
Hey Ron,
Great insight ...... spot on!!
You're right… I have met more than my share of wine snobs. One of my favorite was the guy who even had an ascot on ..... And.... Talk down to everybody.
It's a great story that if we ever crack open a bottle together I love to tell you about. It had to do with a $7600 bottle of Sauvignon Blanc from the Loire valley.
Cheers!!
Pierre
@@AstiWines --Wine snobs(surfers, skiers, all intense "hobbies") are just past novices, and going into the Intermediate level. They know all the lingo, but haven't tasted many good wines. They are usually the ones that say, "Drink what YOU like". If everyone did that, very few would get past White Zinfandel.
I've always wondered what would happen if you just got a big promotion, and celebrated by ordering your 1st expensive bottle(umm, 2004 CdP( :>D), Lafite) off the wine list. And it was corked("so THIS is what great wine tastes like!"). Would you chase that "flavor" for the rest of your life?
@@AstiWines--The corked bottle in question was 1988 La Turque in ~1995(not my bottle) with 6 people. Painful!
The most expensive bottles of Loire for me have been late-harvest Chenins, Chavignol and some of the Cotat Bros. I'm not a big Chinon fan, but I love St. Emilion.
@@ronmcmartin4513 on the road doing ..... tastings in Wisconsin ....... limited connectivity.
@@AstiWines--No problem, we're just yammering.
I believe in Wisconsin, cheese is always available with your Whine.
Nice. All of this video was new wine for me.
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To say young wine is better than aged wine as a blanket statement seems pretty disingenuous. Old school Barolo? Classic Napa producers? Grand Cru BDX? Come on, dude. There are plenty of offerings that can take 20+ years or longer, they just aren't available for $18 at your local grocery store.
I don't know but my older wine tastes better than the young one.
maybe you just developed taste for shitier wine ;)
It’s a widely spread rumour in most cases. It depends on the quality and types
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