First rule about Barossa Valley wines... you don't talk about Barossa Valley wines... otherwise they'll become as expensive as all your other examples ;)
Age-worthy but still a pleasure to drink when young my top 3 list would be: Douro Super Reserva Reds from Portugal Palma de Mallorca Reds (specially DOP Pla i llevant) Languedoc-Roussillon reds (Minervois La Livinière would be the perfect example)
Hi Agnes, what do you think about a shut down phase a wine goes through while it is aging? Is this a myth Robert Parker invented? Greetings from Germany👋
Thank You for Your question. I certainly have seen wines closed, and sometimes they opened after a while, while others didn’t open at all. But recently I see less and less wines like that, and interestingly the same have noted some winemakers I have spoken to. 🤷♀️
Listen Agnese, if you don't open the bottle you cannot be disappointed! You always have a wonderful treasure. It's like the perfect paramour that you never got, or that fairy tale with the poor fisherman who fished up a box. He didn't open it and saw prosperity based on his newfound hopeful outlook. When his wife (it's always a female that leads you astray as we all know) finally convinced him to open the box, there was nothing but trash in there and they went back to poverty. The morale of the story is to never open your bottles of fine wine, but store them until you die and drink plonk while you're waiting.
I like the moral of the story, and it just happens that I am a woman who is inviting everyone to open their treasure boxes 😂 I just hope that not all of them are filled with trash and some can even be pleasant experiences. Cheers 🍷
I am now a bigger fan of younger wines. In the past, I was all about aged wines - even some that were over the hill. I am enjoying the fruitier notes in good younger wines. CdP is a benchmark in terms of preferring them younger than older. Good call on Brunello, I love em upon release.
Thank You! It seems to me that people are heavily divided when it comes to Brunello ageing vs drinking upon release. I love both ways, but it is really, really nice when relatively fresh. 🍷🥰
@@NoSediment If I had the pocket I would happily drink Brunello on release all day long. Unfortunately, my pocket is not so deep. On the rare occasion I spend that kind of money I want it to improve a bit.
Hi Agnes. I just wanted to congratulate you on changing your presentation style. As recently as a year ago you use to wave your hands around all the time like they were on fire and you were trying to put it out but now I see you've been able to keep them relatively still. It used to be so distracting that I couldn't watch your vids but now they are much more enjoyable. Thank you.
As a Portuguese, watching this video makes me realize that we need to improve marketing for our big wines on our most famous regions. I'm pretty sure that they can be at the same level as the ones mentioned here. But either way, your video is really informative and well made, because you focused the right keywords for each region and grape variety. Thank you 🙂
I agree. I'm about to embark on some Portuguese wines. I really used to enjoy them in the years I became a serious wine geek. I married a Spaniard so I became a Spanish wine nerd. I'm breaking out of that recently and looking to enjoy those Portuguese wines again. I know they can be very good. WT
Well, I do think Portugal makes some amazing wines and definitely have great native grape varieties that should be discovered more. And yes, I also agree that there might lack some stronger marketing or focus, but I am sure it will get there. Portugal wine scene has so much to offer. 🍷
Amen!! I'm not going to live forever (a shocking realization, I know), so I kinda want to live and enjoy life now, instead of waiting for a decade or two. Some winemakers (in Italy especially and their numbers are increasing) also do not release their wines for 4 - 7 years precisely because their policy is focused on the customer deciding, whether to open the bottle immediately and enjoy it, or lay it down if they so choose. Not to mention buying more than one bottle and doing both. Love that! Edit: Sorry, I commented before you mentioned Brunello di Montalcino
Hahaha, all is good and thank You for a great comment. I didn’t mention the YOLO factor, but yes, it is also very important. And philosophically speaking some people do live in a world, where they are constantly waiting for a special something to happen to finally “live”! 🙌 Thank You and cheers! 🥂✨
You always have provide such great insights in a concise, informative, and engaging style. Question: In your opinion, do Higher Quality Cooler Climate Reds benefit more from aging than those from warmer regions, or is Climate of Origin irrelevant?
Thank You for the uplifting and supportive comment. 🙏🏻 In theory cooler climate wines should have higher acidity than those coming from a warmer areas, and acidity helps to preserve wine. But overall, I think it is quality that matters not the origin. Because one can make a so so wine in a great terroir, and despite its name wine will not age gracefully. 😔
An interesting video and informative, as always. I believe that one of the many problems plaguing our contemporary world is people hanging on extreme and one-sided views and not being able to be open minded and consider other ideas, opinions or ways of looking at things. Back to wine, yes I have waited too long more than once and lost a potentially good to great wine, because I was waiting for the "perfect drinking window". It's true that winemaking has truly changed a lot over the past 20-30 years, but unfortunately wine knowledge & education hasn't kept pace with this development. That's why some people will say "oh you can't open xxx wine before 8, 10 or more years". Honestly, this is a misguided and outdated fact, as nearly all modern wine is made to be enjoyed upon release. Especially ones with a longer aging time in neutral or large oak vessels. At the same time, if someone (such as myself) enjoys their wines with more tertiary notes and older vintages, others shouldn't call them out on it or criticize them. I believe that wine is a form of art, and like all art; painting, music, sculpture, cinema, fashion, etc it's very subjective and personal. While I don't believe in all of Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy, I think this quote has some truth to it: “All of life is a dispute over taste and tasting.”. Rioja, especially at the Reserva & Gran Reserva is a wine that can be enjoyed upon release, same for Erste Lage and Grosse Gewachs Riesling and I am guessing vintage Champagne as well. Cheers, great video. It would be interesting to see a video about 5 great white wines that can both be enjoyed upon release and also hold up well with aging.
I read Your second sentence, and OMG, this is something I have been thinking lately a lot. The extremes of whatever topic or subject we often fall into, and the constant false thinking: “if some is good, more must be better.” Yes, we should really try to live our lives in balance and that also includes wine - drinking and ageing it. And by the way, I was going to going to include Rioja (nice call), but I simply didn’t want to stick only to European wines. Cheers and thank You! 🙏🏻
I tried a 1978 Château Greysac and it made me resize how much I love aged wine. I think a great wine that can age and can be drunk early is a Margret River Cabernet Sauvignon.
I agree with You - I actually could have included more of the Australian wines, they can be really nice young and aged, and Margaret River with its Cabernet Sauvignon would have been amongst those. 🍷
Thank You for Your comment and these additions. I don’t think I have taste much aged Lagrein wines - must seek them out. But definitely great wine to enjoy while its fresh and full of fruit. 🍷 Cheers!
Another great video. Do you have a favorite from each of the 5? I know you probably could have done 2 hours on other reds, but any suggestions for a Pinot Noir from outside Burgundy? Thank you.
Thank You! 🙏🏻 I actually like all of those wines, aged and upon their release, but if would have to choose now, I would go for Brunello. 🍷 And in terms of Pinot Noir I see that Germany is making amazing wines, but unfortunately they are steadily increasing in price. New Zealand doe’s amazing job, so is Tasmania. 🙏🏻
Although we disagreed about Brunello recently I completely agree with you. Modern wine does not have to be aged forever. Furthermore, modern producers don't expect it. I'm more aware, now more than ever, that I need to start opening some of my older wines.
I think disagreement or different views on topics are a part of a healthy discussions. And I most certainly like to debate with people about wine. And me too, with few disappointments in my wine fridge, I am also thinking that I should be opening some of those older vintages. 😅
First thing that comes to mind is Vouvray. I recently bought some bottles from the same producer from 2014-2021 for the dry ones and all of them are enjoyable and have their own characteristics. Having said that I also bought a case of Taurasi 2013 and tasted the first bottle and it just tastes too young, probably have to wait for a decade to see if it opens up fully.
Vouvray for sure!!!!!! Those wines and Chenin Blanc in general is way, way underrated. Wines can live for 20 years and cost almost nothing if compared to other wines with the same aging potential. 🫣
@@NoSedimentExactly! I bought 18 bottles, dry, semi-dry and sweet from 2005 to 2021. And they were roughly EUR 15,- a bottle. This has been my greatest wine discovery this year. I think it is the greatest expression for middle length wine.
Vintage Ports are great, good addition for age worthy wines! And I would argue that reason why Napa Cabernet doesn’t last in Your cellar is because they are so nice to drink when young! 🍷😋
Not really. Even though I do enjoy younger vintages of Barolo wines as well, I do like them with bit of bottle age. If anything, Barbaresco before Barolo, in my view. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Agnese, please could you make a video about the wine books and your own learning system that you are using by your MW studies? I'm very curious what all you need to study and what kind of literature you are using. And I can't wait to see another podcast..🙂😉🍷🍷
Thank You for this suggestion. 🙏🏻 I can share some books, of course, which I have a lot. But that is usually the theory part. The real studying really happens in the vineyards and at the wineries talking with people who make or market the wine. Therefore, I think the best way is to make a podcast with MW, and they should be coming soon. 🍷
@@NoSediment that's true, great point with the theory and practice... and OMG 😱 I can't wait to see the podcast or your wine books collection video (with opinions/ recommendations). I just love your Chanel
Just listed to the German wine podcast „Winzertalk“ with Othmar Kiem und Simon Staffler from Falstaff as interviees on the topic of Barolo (German speakers go check it out). Their take on the topic: a great Barolo should already be enjoyable after some weeks on the bottle. Otherwise it is not great.
I believe that is the case with all great wines. And wheather one should age or open their bottle of wine is purely dependent on the style they enjoy 😉 Hopefully I don’t get too much hate because of that, but that is my belief 🤔
First rule about Barossa Valley wines... you don't talk about Barossa Valley wines... otherwise they'll become as expensive as all your other examples ;)
Hahaha, good rule. However, I think that there are few Barossa examples that already dictate premium prices 😅
Haha! True.
Age-worthy but still a pleasure to drink when young my top 3 list would be:
Douro Super Reserva Reds from Portugal
Palma de Mallorca Reds (specially DOP Pla i llevant)
Languedoc-Roussillon reds (Minervois La Livinière would be the perfect example)
Thank you adding these to the list. Agreed!
Red Wine is amazing I also love White Wine I love drinking Chardonnay and Pinot. Wealthy Cultured Elegant People drink Wine
I guess I like all the colours in wine, as long it is great quality and has a story to tell! 🥰
Hi Agnes, what do you think about a shut down phase a wine goes through while it is aging? Is this a myth Robert Parker invented? Greetings from Germany👋
Thank You for Your question. I certainly have seen wines closed, and sometimes they opened after a while, while others didn’t open at all. But recently I see less and less wines like that, and interestingly the same have noted some winemakers I have spoken to. 🤷♀️
am I the only one thinking, aging wine is super old school? 3-5 years I understand but aging wines for your grandkids is just ridiculous😅
No, You are not the only one! 🙌🙌🙌 don’t worry, I think it can be nice. But I also think that this idea of wine ageing is often too exaggerated. ✨
Your doggie voted for the Cab!
Seems like he did, yes! 🙈🍷
I have dreamed of the day that a woman in a Looney Tunes shirt would talk to me about wine
Did Your dream come true?
You could say so! I like your dog as well@@NoSediment
Hello I’m new to your channel what’s a good 100.00 dollar bottle of wine fruit forward not to sweet thank you
Hi, thank You for the comment. To be honest, I can think of many wines. Where are You from and which regions in general You would prefer?
Listen Agnese, if you don't open the bottle you cannot be disappointed! You always have a wonderful treasure. It's like the perfect paramour that you never got, or that fairy tale with the poor fisherman who fished up a box. He didn't open it and saw prosperity based on his newfound hopeful outlook. When his wife (it's always a female that leads you astray as we all know) finally convinced him to open the box, there was nothing but trash in there and they went back to poverty. The morale of the story is to never open your bottles of fine wine, but store them until you die and drink plonk while you're waiting.
I like the moral of the story, and it just happens that I am a woman who is inviting everyone to open their treasure boxes 😂 I just hope that not all of them are filled with trash and some can even be pleasant experiences. Cheers 🍷
I usually age my wine for about half an hour. The time it takes to get from the shop to my glass.
Best wine ageing advice I have heard! 🙌🙌🙌
I am now a bigger fan of younger wines. In the past, I was all about aged wines - even some that were over the hill. I am enjoying the fruitier notes in good younger wines. CdP is a benchmark in terms of preferring them younger than older. Good call on Brunello, I love em upon release.
Thank You! It seems to me that people are heavily divided when it comes to Brunello ageing vs drinking upon release. I love both ways, but it is really, really nice when relatively fresh. 🍷🥰
@@NoSediment If I had the pocket I would happily drink Brunello on release all day long. Unfortunately, my pocket is not so deep. On the rare occasion I spend that kind of money I want it to improve a bit.
wheres the grattamaco video?? jjeej
Hi Agnes. I just wanted to congratulate you on changing your presentation style. As recently as a year ago you use to wave your hands around all the time like they were on fire and you were trying to put it out but now I see you've been able to keep them relatively still. It used to be so distracting that I couldn't watch your vids but now they are much more enjoyable. Thank you.
As a Portuguese, watching this video makes me realize that we need to improve marketing for our big wines on our most famous regions. I'm pretty sure that they can be at the same level as the ones mentioned here.
But either way, your video is really informative and well made, because you focused the right keywords for each region and grape variety.
Thank you 🙂
I agree. I'm about to embark on some Portuguese wines. I really used to enjoy them in the years I became a serious wine geek. I married a Spaniard so I became a Spanish wine nerd. I'm breaking out of that recently and looking to enjoy those Portuguese wines again. I know they can be very good. WT
Well, I do think Portugal makes some amazing wines and definitely have great native grape varieties that should be discovered more. And yes, I also agree that there might lack some stronger marketing or focus, but I am sure it will get there. Portugal wine scene has so much to offer. 🍷
have you tried the Kurni 2020 ?
Doggie has a gentle soul
He is the best for me!
Could not agree more
Cheers to that’ ✨🥂
Aged Brunello 😍😍😍!
Great wine, aged and just released! 🍷
Amen!!
I'm not going to live forever (a shocking realization, I know), so I kinda want to live and enjoy life now, instead of waiting for a decade or two.
Some winemakers (in Italy especially and their numbers are increasing) also do not release their wines for 4 - 7 years precisely because their policy is focused on the customer deciding, whether to open the bottle immediately and enjoy it, or lay it down if they so choose. Not to mention buying more than one bottle and doing both. Love that!
Edit: Sorry, I commented before you mentioned Brunello di Montalcino
Hahaha, all is good and thank You for a great comment. I didn’t mention the YOLO factor, but yes, it is also very important. And philosophically speaking some people do live in a world, where they are constantly waiting for a special something to happen to finally “live”! 🙌 Thank You and cheers! 🥂✨
You always have provide such great insights in a concise, informative, and engaging style.
Question: In your opinion, do Higher Quality Cooler Climate Reds benefit more from aging than those from warmer regions, or is Climate of Origin irrelevant?
Thank You for the uplifting and supportive comment. 🙏🏻 In theory cooler climate wines should have higher acidity than those coming from a warmer areas, and acidity helps to preserve wine. But overall, I think it is quality that matters not the origin. Because one can make a so so wine in a great terroir, and despite its name wine will not age gracefully. 😔
@@NoSediment Thank you 👍🥂🍷😇
An interesting video and informative, as always. I believe that one of the many problems plaguing our contemporary world is people hanging on extreme and one-sided views and not being able to be open minded and consider other ideas, opinions or ways of looking at things.
Back to wine, yes I have waited too long more than once and lost a potentially good to great wine, because I was waiting for the "perfect drinking window". It's true that winemaking has truly changed a lot over the past 20-30 years, but unfortunately wine knowledge & education hasn't kept pace with this development. That's why some people will say "oh you can't open xxx wine before 8, 10 or more years".
Honestly, this is a misguided and outdated fact, as nearly all modern wine is made to be enjoyed upon release. Especially ones with a longer aging time in neutral or large oak vessels. At the same time, if someone (such as myself) enjoys their wines with more tertiary notes and older vintages, others shouldn't call them out on it or criticize them.
I believe that wine is a form of art, and like all art; painting, music, sculpture, cinema, fashion, etc it's very subjective and personal. While I don't believe in all of Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy, I think this quote has some truth to it: “All of life is a dispute over taste and tasting.”.
Rioja, especially at the Reserva & Gran Reserva is a wine that can be enjoyed upon release, same for Erste Lage and Grosse Gewachs Riesling and I am guessing vintage Champagne as well. Cheers, great video. It would be interesting to see a video about 5 great white wines that can both be enjoyed upon release and also hold up well with aging.
I read Your second sentence, and OMG, this is something I have been thinking lately a lot. The extremes of whatever topic or subject we often fall into, and the constant false thinking: “if some is good, more must be better.” Yes, we should really try to live our lives in balance and that also includes wine - drinking and ageing it.
And by the way, I was going to going to include Rioja (nice call), but I simply didn’t want to stick only to European wines. Cheers and thank You! 🙏🏻
I tried a 1978 Château Greysac and it made me resize how much I love aged wine. I think a great wine that can age and can be drunk early is a Margret River Cabernet Sauvignon.
I agree with You - I actually could have included more of the Australian wines, they can be really nice young and aged, and Margaret River with its Cabernet Sauvignon would have been amongst those. 🍷
Great video 👍 I would include a Lagrein of Alto Adige as well ( Hofstätter for example) in my opinion it's worth to try 😊 Cheers 🍷🍷
Thank You for Your comment and these additions. I don’t think I have taste much aged Lagrein wines - must seek them out. But definitely great wine to enjoy while its fresh and full of fruit. 🍷 Cheers!
A good rule for a great wine tasting experience is to wear a Bugs Bunny T-shirt. I enjoyed this video. Well done!
Hahaha, thank You. I try to keep not as serious 🧐 view on wine, and at least t-shirts help. 🙈
love the dog
He really is the best. 🙏🏻
Another great video. Do you have a favorite from each of the 5? I know you probably could have done 2 hours on other reds, but any suggestions for a Pinot Noir from outside Burgundy? Thank you.
Thank You! 🙏🏻 I actually like all of those wines, aged and upon their release, but if would have to choose now, I would go for Brunello. 🍷 And in terms of Pinot Noir I see that Germany is making amazing wines, but unfortunately they are steadily increasing in price. New Zealand doe’s amazing job, so is Tasmania. 🙏🏻
As soon as they open up, thats when you should drink them in my books! If theyre open already, drink now!
The best advice I have heard. That is the perfect window, when the bottle is open! 🙏🏻🍷
I opened a bottle of 2019 DRC La Tache the other night ago,, and it was awesome worth the cost!
WOW! For now I can only dream of wine like that! 😳 Cheers! 🍷
Although we disagreed about Brunello recently I completely agree with you. Modern wine does not have to be aged forever. Furthermore, modern producers don't expect it. I'm more aware, now more than ever, that I need to start opening some of my older wines.
I think disagreement or different views on topics are a part of a healthy discussions. And I most certainly like to debate with people about wine. And me too, with few disappointments in my wine fridge, I am also thinking that I should be opening some of those older vintages. 😅
First thing that comes to mind is Vouvray. I recently bought some bottles from the same producer from 2014-2021 for the dry ones and all of them are enjoyable and have their own characteristics. Having said that I also bought a case of Taurasi 2013 and tasted the first bottle and it just tastes too young, probably have to wait for a decade to see if it opens up fully.
Vouvray for sure!!!!!! Those wines and Chenin Blanc in general is way, way underrated. Wines can live for 20 years and cost almost nothing if compared to other wines with the same aging potential. 🫣
@@NoSedimentExactly! I bought 18 bottles, dry, semi-dry and sweet from 2005 to 2021. And they were roughly EUR 15,- a bottle. This has been my greatest wine discovery this year. I think it is the greatest expression for middle length wine.
@@NoSediment😅
Right now, the only wines I have the patience to age are vintage ports. All my great Napa cabs don't last very long.
Vintage Ports are great, good addition for age worthy wines! And I would argue that reason why Napa Cabernet doesn’t last in Your cellar is because they are so nice to drink when young! 🍷😋
Was wondering if you would include barolo. The 2014s I've had were still VERY firm..... 24 hours of air needed.
Not really. Even though I do enjoy younger vintages of Barolo wines as well, I do like them with bit of bottle age. If anything, Barbaresco before Barolo, in my view. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Agreed! Barbaresco is at its best sooner, but nothing comes near a Ratti 1967 I recently had!
babe sorry but brunello is one of the only wines in italy u cant drink young unless the vintage was overripe...
As I told at the end, who am I to tell You how to drink Your wine - if You like it matured, go for it. 🍷 Cheers!
Hi Agnese, please could you make a video about the wine books and your own learning system that you are using by your MW studies? I'm very curious what all you need to study and what kind of literature you are using. And I can't wait to see another podcast..🙂😉🍷🍷
Thank You for this suggestion. 🙏🏻 I can share some books, of course, which I have a lot. But that is usually the theory part. The real studying really happens in the vineyards and at the wineries talking with people who make or market the wine. Therefore, I think the best way is to make a podcast with MW, and they should be coming soon. 🍷
@@NoSediment that's true, great point with the theory and practice... and OMG 😱 I can't wait to see the podcast or your wine books collection video (with opinions/ recommendations). I just love your Chanel
@lianadanova thank You very much. You are so sweet. 🙏🏻🥰
See! See! These kinda wines! * CAN * be left alone but don't have to be. ( insert excited clapping here 👏)
I hope You enjoyed this video’ 🍷
@@NoSediment I certainly did ❤️🙏
Just listed to the German wine podcast „Winzertalk“ with Othmar Kiem und Simon Staffler from Falstaff as interviees on the topic of Barolo (German speakers go check it out). Their take on the topic: a great Barolo should already be enjoyable after some weeks on the bottle. Otherwise it is not great.
I believe that is the case with all great wines. And wheather one should age or open their bottle of wine is purely dependent on the style they enjoy 😉 Hopefully I don’t get too much hate because of that, but that is my belief 🤔
@@NoSediment Absolutely agree. Best examples of that are probably Riesling and Champagne?
@thomaskirchhoff9394 great examples in my opinion! 🥂
I still remember I clear 6 bottle of Aldo conterno barolo bussia 13 from 2017 to 2018 …. So yummm
🌞🌞🌞
Cheers 🍷
STOP SHAKING YOUR HEAD WHILE SPEAKING TO ME!😂😂😂😂
What the heck are you talking about? Even if she was how childish are you feel so self-obsessed to say such a thing to another person?