They RUINED Kirby in Smash
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Coney watches AsumSaus' video on Kirby in Super Smash Bros. Melee and gives his introspection on Kirby's toolkit in competitive play in Super Smash Bros.
Check out the original video by AsumSaus:
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Glad to see the editor once again used the same picture of Coney for the thumbnail just for the meme. Respect.
Can we get this thumbnail 5 times in a row? I hope so.
I hope it eventually goes the PewDiePie route where it's the same face over and over but with increasing levels of photoshop and distortion
Atrioc vibes
@@byrontheusurper6505 It literally isn't Coney's hand in the picture, it's Atrioc's hand copy-pasted over it lmao
@@Qaztar44 oh my god you're right that's so funny
One possible theory I've heard is that Kirby was among the earliest characters developed, and that the later characters power crept him.
they really looked at puff and said, "Let's give this bitch 10x better aerial drift, backair the size of Massachusetts, POUND, and a kill confirm at 30%"
That's actually really valid. Not only did his best tools from Smash 64 get nerfed into oblivion, but by the time Ultimate rolled around... yeah, they barely updated Kirby and introduced noob characters that actually do something. Like, how the hell does Kirby exist in the same game as Aegis, a character that's just as easy but 50,000,000x better than him?
@Hambughrr Who the hell is Aegis?
@@salj.5459 Its a common nickname I use for Pyra and Mythra
@@hambughrr8186
Idk man. Ultimate Kirby to me seems not so bad. I don’t think he’s low tier. But then again, I also thought Kirby in Smash 4 was better than what most people thought. I think he’s mid tier.
Bro Asumsaus is one of my favourite melee youtubers his content is always filled with interesting and new facts, subtle and non subtle jokes, and it just always has me hooked the whole time.
I love him and I dont even play melee
3:40 is the most consistently funny hbox pop off to me, like I can rrwatch it and get a little chuckle
Also hbox said he can play it up on some online tournaments, because he's streaming. But anything offline is 100% genuine
Him passing out is funny but worrying
It’s insane to learn what games were like before the devs could just patch out glitches / balancing
Melee's kind of a weird example, as it was very much a rushed product to fill out the Gamecube's launch window lineup. The fact the game is as playable as it is without as many characters being Kirby-levels of bad is honestly kind of amazing given how little time it had to be developed
@@Vexal50 Yeah Iwata really helped save this game. Though it unfortunately almost made Sakurai quit game development all together cause of how stressful the 13 month period was.
@@Vexal50 The amount of changes from 64 as well is pretty astonishing for the time. Including directional air dodging and taking shielding from completely awful to actually important was amazing, let alone basically coding all the characters again from scratch. Hats off.
Technically Melee was patched but that still couldn't save Kirby
The “gg’s that was me” topic made me think of one time, when I used to play Destiny 2 and wasn’t very good at PvP, I ended up in a Trials match against the best PvP player in the world, Panda. What was even worse was he was doing a 2v3 challenge at the time, so we got our asses handed to us even with a numbers advantage. I sent in his chat “gg’s man, was fun to play against you that game, hope the rest of your trials challenge goes well.” And he actually was super chill about it and said I did well, which was crazy to me since I was so bad at PvP most of the time. So yeah that was a pretty strong confidence booster.
Coney must have a really cool rock in his hand with how long he's looked at it. I hope he shows us one day
@@Boxish Oh that's sweet, his good friend Atrioc showing him a neat little rock
"That *insert synonym for killed here"* is probably one of the funniest bits I've heard on the Coney channel.
Sakurai probably made Kirby so bad because he doesn't want him to be used competitively. Kirby right now is very popular among casual players, which is exactly what he wants from his game, and by extension Kirby
You mean he told the developers to make him that way right? The comment made it seem like he coded and made the characters himself lol
Edit: hope this isn’t coming off as rude btw.
Same Coney face for the past 4 thumbnails check
(Can't wait to see how many people acknowledge this)
I see Coney is making use of the advanced reusable thumbnail reaction tech, one that pewdiepie would shamelessly steal 2 years earlier
Every time Coney pops off I can't help but remember "GAAHHHH YOU DIED TO A GET-UP ATTACK!"
The entire bit about the "gg's that was me" while streaming hits so hard.
It's ALWAYS when they win, but absolute silence when they lose even immediately after.
It's only gg's when they win I swear lolol
ive made a habit of saying "ggs" or asking for advice through whispers when someone has TTV in their name, haven't had any bad experiences yet
I was about to say "I hate green kirby" but then "He is a watermlon" was said and changed my mind asap
Isn't Green Kirby from 64 & Melee based off of a Japanese sweet known as Kusa-mochi?
@@GlitchanBlack SHUT THE FUCK UP, I LIKE WATERMELONNN
"I also love Kirby, except for the games"
I understand and respect it but it doesn't stop me from hurting each time.
cut my life into pizza, this is my plastic fork
Don't worry, he probably hasn't played a Kirby game, and if he has he had the wrong mindset while playing it.
@@shinyeeveelution789 whats the right mindset for Kirby "oh boy i can't wait to play through a game that holds my hand and has no requirement to think at all"
Kirby is only fun when playing with someone else cause you don't have to pay attention to the game
@@Watburnt allow me to explain... *in the long way*
Kirby is an experience, that for the easy parts of the game, is catered to newcomers, it is designed to be someone's first game.
Then why doesn't it fall into obscurity?
Well that's due to the fact of the stories, even more so lore, the beauty in these games, and the difficult extra mode within each game to give long time gamers a challenge.
Story and lore are self explanatory.
The beauty is always there, just playing the games you can feel all the love and care that were put into each animation, environment, ability and puzzle. Enjoy the music, there's something truly amazing about it.
And the extra modes. These kick the game into a higher gear, the difficulty rises substantially. Not to mention the true final bosses, they're difficult enough to rival that of Elden Rings first bosses, *on their own* , the thing about all these true final bosses is that they're locked behind a difficult boss rush of every boss you've fought prior.
I could go so much farther, Kirby games are just perfectly hand tailored to fit for everyone, with a cute little pink blob to perfect it.
Oh and with you saying that they're hand-holdy, they really aren't, after that first and very short tutorial you're open to explore each level to your leisure. You're not forced to do anything, you can go back to any level if you so wish. They're like any other level progression game you can think of, except that there's probably more to explore within each level.
I used to play melee at a community centre before Ult came out and I just really enjoyed playing Kirby. The fact that most melee tech skill doesnt do much for him made it easy to focus on the player to player aspect while also trying to make the best out of what little Kirby does have, like using crouch to avoid certain moves, or keeping kirbycide in my backpocket to catch my friends off guard and not ready to mash.
A-one, a-two, a-three, a-four! Count them, 4 videos in a row with the same Coney face in the thumbnail, Ah ah ah!
Sakurai was halucinating when he was making kirby and jigglypuff so he mixed them up
From one fan of 96 quite bitter beings to another, that was excellent hearing in a Coney Video with Asumsaus talking about Melee. Thank you editor 💚💚💚
so glad more content creators in the smash scene are reacting to asumsaus's vids, he's my favorite melee creator and his videos are so polished
Reaction content is low-effort and steals away from the creator as well as others fighting for a spot in the algorithm
@@ashtoric consider: i like seeing what other people think about stuff i like and AsumSaus has said hes cool with it
@@0wl0fth3nil3 like I said, it affects more than just the creator even if they are fine with it.
@@ashtoric i disagree
@@0wl0fth3nil3 would recommend DarkViperAU’s series of videos on reaction content
Kirby vs Jigglypuff is like
some young kid trying his best
vs the baby cousin everyone loves more
Except nobody like Puff
The ConeyICANT in the thumbnail is beginning to scare me...
*{It’s been 4 videos in a row}*
Nice of Atrioc to donate his hand to Coney after the accident
Can we aim for 5 repeat thumbnails!?!?🙏🏿 #please
CONEY: told u i was hbox
Asumsaus: ye fn right
"When I play, I'm TENSE. It's not fake"
Sudden flashbacks to him getting SM64 sub 20 min: Yep, I believe it.
ITS THE SAME POSE IN THE THUMBNAIL LMAOOOO
Coney making smash content? I’m here for it. Must have to pay the bills again
I'm kinda like Melee Kirby tbh
Barely functional
FOUR THUMBNAILS IN A ROW?? ICANT
The reason why kirby was so bad in melee it's bcs of 64 Sakurai didn't want people hating kirby cause of how broken he was in 64 BUT KIRBY IS LITERALLY A GOD
Dude wario running instead of using the bike is so fucking funny
Kirby games are Better than mario's. Change my mind
Sakurai made Kirby shit in Melee cuz he didn't want nobody hitting his child anymore. Making him unviable is the safest move.
That's a really cute thought
It’s always good when coney uploads
and then it’s react content
@@aug2873 I mean he does have actual interesting insight and input when he reacts, especially if it’s smash
@@EllieMiller510 true, I just prefer his more creative content.
@@aug2873 idk man react mojo goes haaard
i love when coney talks about old pm and brawl stuff
Coney be really proud of that watch these days, keeps flexing it off
I know right. He loves to show off that watch he himself owns.
Popping off like you just won the lottery after winning at a childrens party game is low key cringe af.
I miss Brawl Hammer.
Brawl Hammer had fast startup while hitting like a truck on the ground and in the air.
I have no idea why they nerfed that one particular move so hard in smash 4. They took his one good special and made it unusable for no reason at all. That, along other issues is why outside of 64, Brawl kirby is my personal favorite iteration of kirby.
@@darienmiller1032
Brawl Kirby had serious potential
Unfortunately, it was Brawl
Hhhhyuh!
I can’t help but feel like Coney is punching himself a lot lately in these thumbnails :/ you doing okay buddy?
He made Kirby bad to lose the scent that he was purposely making his characters good, because he then continued to make meta knight the best character in brawl, that's why he made Kirby bad
6:20 ultimate bowser in a nutshell.
GOD I adore that character
3:51 took me back to when Coney beat Boss in Project M and lost his fucking mind
My PM Wario was nasty, I remember seeing Coney’s tweet about Banjo’s side-B looking like PM Wario but sadly ended up not being true :(
coney you should do a tier list speed round where you hit the "random" button on tiermaker bet itd be hilarious
We got him boys he’s a melee guy
I was hoping so much that it would be the same thumbnail
Coney. You get used to tap jump very quickly. Also you can just play 1.03 or get a phob controller and turn it off.
Next thing you know Coney changes the channel pfp to this thumbnail pic
Copperhead: "Are you challenging me?"
Isn’t it better to be puff and kill a fox with only 3 inputs when they need 500
How dare you be a reaction channel I legit enjoy
11:18 Kirby is shit tier but this dude had a classic panic moment we all get between combos. Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but the dude punished falco with fair which was then followed up by a full dash to full hop nair. I guess he was trying to read a full hop, but you just got a punish with Fair so you should immediately go for kill confirm or try to edge guard (which is hard cus kirby is shit) but if he was in the Kirby mindset, after he hit that fair he woulda went for jab, drill, tilt mixup or grab (despite shit range) anything that doesn't get you shine combo'd to top platforms
Sure the comboing against kirby is insurmountable, but since most people only know how to instalock fox where they have the advantage in 100% of scenarios and would 0% if no mistakes are made, they'll instantly blame the shit tier for the death because mid level fox players aren't actually used to looking for kill confirms because fuckin everything they do is a kill confirm. So they'll look at dude dash to miss full hop back air to get combo'd, say "wow, kirby is shit" then return to fox. When in actuality yes, Kirby is shit. That's why if you lock Kirby, you don't play like you're on Jigglypuff with godly aerial drift going for random back airs.
2:40 what the hell is the song it’s a banger
Asumsaus is a phenomenal storyteller
One of the reasons I heard Kirby is so bad in melee is because supposedly he was the first character they worked on in the game. That's why a lot of his moves are so bad/weird
The recent thumbnails be going CRAZY bro
If I ever play melee I will play bowser, I main him in every smash game I've played and this will be no different!
I just saw some green kirby art on twitter it's beautiful!
Shout out to PM Kirby dash attack and side cutter combos
Just subscribed after taking advantage of months of your content. The little coney subscribe button in the button left is what did it for me. No idea why.
Wait guys whats the name of the song that plays at 2:45 plsss
I need to know too
Do you know my favorite twitch steamer Atrioc? He sometimes goes by Glizzyhands or Big A. Idk why, but your videos lately have been giving me real Big A vibes.
My boi went from top 2 in 64 to bottom 2 in melee
watched it 3 times now, on my own, with hbox, now with coney
My old job hosted tournaments and I went once and was just hanging out trying to learn the game and a guy was like I can help you learn and then he proceeded to wobble with ice climbers for all three stocks. First and last time I played "competitive" melee.
Btw the logic of Kirby being nerfed going to melee from 64 doesn’t account for the fact that pikachu was more busted in 64 than Kirby yet is still a viable character in melee. And Kirby is WAY WAY worse
gg's that was me :laughing:
these thumbnails are killing me
9:20 guy complains about arms and multiversus being competitve. Any game with a versus mode is gonna be competitive. Sounds like A noob complaint to me my guy
What a sick thumbnail
Mmmmm, another coffee cow classic! The Glizzy Gobbler never misses.
12:49 XD
"Multiversus comes out this month" huh
This thumbnail face Puts Big A to SHAME!
let's go PM
Not going to watch this video until you make a different thumbnail face.
So no pause after he eays why that hammer so long... i got you coney
PAUSE
G&W is fun and all but literally every G&W plays the same
Classic
Yo wait they took away Warios bike in project m? What the actual fuck?
18:00 Dr. Cossack
I never saw this video in full!
I kinda hate that AsumSaus has became the new Unusual Memes to react to for smash streamers because I watch everything from him but at the same time watching it again is never bad.,
15:57
“I WISH YOU WOULD STEP BACK FROM THAT LEDGE, MY FRIEND”
I’ll never forget when that started playing as the grands ended when chu lost to smashg0d(?). It was glorious and everyone was laughing and having a great time
It's a very funny bit but bro that 96 quite bitter beings riff is one of the best guitar riffs ever written
He made Kirby shit in Melee to not look biased since Kirby was top tier in 64. That also explains why King Dedede wasn't added despite being scrapped in 64 and Top 5 most voted character in the official "If There Was A Smash 2 Poll".
Haven’t heard 96 Quite Bitter Beings in forever. That was the song that woke me up every morning in college. Really made cKy haters out of my roommates.
I dont play a whole ton of slippi but I did get recognized few times for playing a pretty good beeg Link. I was messing around an the guy kept selecting link an LRAS to get me to pick link I was very confused lol
You just opened Pandora's box of BM there"Hey Coney, i know i just kicked your ass, but you got any advice on how to not be as bad as you?"
coney youve posted smash bros the past 4 videos. do you want the play button that bad?
yung coney cringe
My man’s been figuring out UA-cam, using the same picture of himself in the thumbnail for videos in a row.
THAT ELIMINATED?!
THAT NOT EXISTED?!
THAT GO BYE BYED?!
I see you've learned how to create your thumbnails from the glizzy gulper Atrioc himself
Gotta play arms again
These thumbnails are a thought experiment
Kirby is said to have the consistency of Mochi, so I guess he would taste like strawberry mochi
Editor really pulling out all the stops for these thumbnails
9:50 4:50