My opinion before any clues: If I have learned one thing about Jane he often times isn't that confident, he just uses that to have people tell the truth. Him standing up, looking at her and then confidently saying "Yes, You were." gives the woman a sense of "Oh, he figured me out cuz he obviously saw smth in my expression that told on me" and so she admits to it. That doesnt necessarily mean Jane knew for sure or was that confident, he just acted. He does that a lot lol I think he even admitted that to Lisbon and i think this was one of the cases. The psychological distancing might have give him an idea that she MIGHT be lying and so he used this tactic of being confident to basically have her admit it. If he was wrong, he would just played it off. :D
My head-canon for reading the dead guy at 9:41 is that Patrick sometimes just makes up some unimportant details to seem more impressive. Like you said nobody is that good at deductive reasoning... but they can lie. He started and ended with the important information (that he was killed for romantic reasons) everything else was forgettable filler. Some of the details like 'moderate success' with cougars and playing guitar 'not well' are both subjective and difficult to verify but by adding them to his Sherlock Holmes routine he can pretend to have more information than he really does making him seem more competent. Maybe he does it to impress the local police and make them more cooperative, maybe it's habit from when he was a conman or maybe he just finds it fun.
That’s the whole point of being a mentalist, you know just what to say. If you pay attention in the show Jane is always saying stuff that sounds so smart but in reality is just word gargle , it’s a cold reading tactic but yes you called it for sure
@@Hondoken most mentalists are complete crap at cold reading. They rely too much on their tricks and don’t even bother with clever wording like this. The few who do are excellent
@SpideyHypnosis I definitely see what you’re saying for sure. I’ve been watching the mentalist for a few weeks now, but I’ve attempted mentalism for years now and working on reading people, my family won’t even lie around me anymore because of how much I’ve grown, I have to say you’ve definitely made in my top 5 tubers
2:50 Patric Jane has an idea, that she is lying, but doesn't know for sure. so he is kinda gambling. Pretending to be sure and put more pressure on her this way. If this had failed, he would have been the weirdo anyway. In this case, it worked. Sometimes, you just have to take risks, make people upset, knock on the bush and watch, what comes out.
The mentalist is no not sure that the interrogated woman was not sleeping with Gordon. He says he is to get her reaction and reveal the truth. And the question about the book you recommended to read "Influence" by Robert B. Cialdini I was surprised to know that some people were attacking weather forecast announcers due to bad weather forecasts. I hope this is not happening now!
Spidey that last tutorial, I performed it in my assembly Infront my principal and teachers they just wowed they were amazed I don't have enough words to say that felling of mine when all of them just clapped for me I owe you Spidey in many ways I don't know how to comment my feelings here Thanku very much Spidey ❤️ Thanku very much 😍
When it comes to Patrick as a character, he tends to guess a lot. Even if he doesn’t believe the answer cuz he wants to see the reaction or trick the person into saying or doing something. Confidence in another can make you unsure of your own answer and knowledge even if it’s a known fact like the sky is blue. If someone confidently says it isn’t then you start thinking that maybe we aren’t talking about a clear sky or a day sky or whatever. You create your own reasons why you are wrong and can trick yourself into giving up information.
Behavior analysis You just reminded me of my dream TV SHOW, which is Patrick Jane joins the BAU(behavioral analysis unit) to catch the worst of the worst.
seen this TV show around 8 years ago I think. LOVED IT. Patrick Jane is a very good character and the actor does a hell of a job at playing him. Love that capacity for mental tricks to find out the truth from people, being very observant to environment, very charismatic and smart.
My guess (without having seen the whole video yet) -- He was fishing. Part of Reid technique is to immediately stop the person being interrogated from denying, as the more someone denies something the more they get confident in their story. Add on a bit of theater to make the suspect believe that the interrogator has reliable information. Also, by doubling-down you put the suspect into even more stress, so if their tells will become even more noticeable and you can more easily confirm if you are correct or not, and further lies will be easier to detect.
Jane didn't learn that from reading her. Yes, I am trying to rememeber the episode, and I do recall the biker gang thing. I am thinking he knew this from other sources and is simply declaring it as fact. Makes him come off a little supernatural, and dismays the subject. She isn't nearly so confident afterwards, or as confrontational. I think he knew from the wife and son.....If I recall correctly.... Maybe he was guessing it was her, but he knew it was someone, and she was a likely candidate. We'll see!
This is contextually a great point. Now imagine if he knew absolutely nothing about her. Because my reason for him doing that would work even if he had 0 information
I think Jane just threw that question like a spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks. Maybe he was expecting a more confused or insulted reaction back and she was pretty mellow about it. Suggestion for react scene: s7e2. Liz goes undercover to prison to gain trust of an inmate and Jane teaches her how to do it.
Wow, the breakdown of the small bits was super interesting Mr.Spidy . The explanation of the clip from the last video was like mind blowing , soo many things can tell about a person 🤯. Also about the question , I think it started by the changes in her expression as well as her changing her sitting position (but it looks like she was shifting in order to have a proper look at Mr. Patrick) and in the end Mr. Patrick did a bluff , kind of a trap. Thank you Mr.Spidy for delivering such an awesome piece of knowledge to us 😊.
Funny, when I was working in retail, I was using the “Pacing and Leading” tactic to develop trust and sell the products, and I never knew it had a name…or was a method, for that matter. 😂
You basically answered the question and I just understood that it's more entertaining to make myself see what's the answer. Commenting for the algorithm
Everytime I hear about reading people I'm remembered of "Lie to me"... well, and sherlock holmes XD... but what would be your thoughts on Lie to me? I remember it being quite fun.
It’s based on Paul Ekman’s work. He is the master of micro expressions. I don’t use micro expressions too much, if I happen to catch one; great, but that’s not what I’m looking for in most cases. Fun show tho
Patrick tried to find out something from her reaction ...when being accused. He was not sure so he Just played to see her reaction. My eyes are closing... Gonna have to watch the rest tomorrow but im so curious 😭
This was great video spidey and I am not sure but you told us about body language in past videos and I think I saw some of them like she sighs, for a sec she took her eyes off and also the mentalist check her confidence at last ...... I don't now if I am correct because I m just a beginner And also I have a question-: that torch is failing the law of gravity😅
Haha my lamp is indeed magical! So again: she did not have enough signs of deception for him to know anything. He didn’t know she was lying. He was confident for a different reason
Not playing long is because calluses have age. New ones are more pronounced, sometimes damaged. Old ones that remain look more normal to hardened skin and have more skinlike tones.
I place my word as my most valuable possession excepting life. I aim to cultivate my accountability, and I work hard to keep my word, and being direct, truthful, or I truthfully go silent or tell someone to beat it. I've studied all manner of manipulation. I have NO desire to deceive, and view that as a lesser power than persuading and pre-suading a target to come over to sync with my resolve. I have no need for being "Right" I aim instead to be ACCURATE.
in an episode of the mentalist jane figures out that red john is someone he has shaken hands with. so he makes a list of every single person he has shaken hands with in the last 10 years. is that even possible? or was that movie magic. if it’s real how would you remember such things?
Great question. If you have me a list of 50 people and asked me to remember them; no problem because I’m counting them to memory on purpose but thinking back and recalling every person I’ve shook hands with in the last few years requires me to remember everytime I shook someone’s hand, THEN remember who they are. don’t think it can be done.
I don't think it's completely possible, but he has mentioned his "memory palace" which is a legitimate technique for remembering many details, so I think it's feasible he could remember many people who seemed off during a handshake
@@solidus4prez I’ve talked about memory palace in two other breakdowns. That’s not how a memory palace works. It’s not for long term things like this. Everytime you use your memory palace you clear it out to remember the new information. So unless he had a SEPARATE memory palace to specifically remember people who’s hand he shook, he didn’t use his memory palace.
They had a professional Mentalist working with them on the show. I don't remember his name, but the dvd extras have bits of him talking about the show.
@@Rennies-World I’m aware. It was one of the reasons that made me want to try it more so. Get the social psychology along with the trickery involved and try it
A video idea/question, lately there have been an increase in AR Games and some as damaging as Q-Anon where the viewer is giving a Davinci Code type clue to uncover a "secret" going on in plain sight. Somehow this re enforces their beliefs and hooks the viewer in to conspiracy theories. What is this phenomonon called and what psch studies illustrates this effect?
Amazing video, Spidey 💕 Love the interaction with your audience! I know people have already answered but I caught that *wink* and I was like oooh... Oooh... then rewatched it and pieced it together and I felt so cool 😂 At first I thought it was like he was looking for eye contact, blinking, looking away et cetera in response to his stark statement but I now know that he testing her confidence in his statement :) Thank you 🤩
Wow this video is great! My guess is that he said she was lying because if he was wrong, he could have just dismissed it, but because he is right and acting confident, she ended up feeling like she had been caught. You could say "sometimes we say something we really aren't sure of with a lot of confidence to test someone else's confidence to get the truth out of them 😉 "
It’s realllly hard to know when a trained poker player is bluffing because 1) they’re trained to not react 2) I can’t interrogate them, usually out signals leak during an interaction and 3) the consequences of their lie are winning money not going to jail so the mind isn’t scared of getting caught which is the reason we see what we see to begin with.
@@SpideyHypnosis Your of course right about all of that. If someone could 100% read the players they would be rich quick. It would still make for an interesting video.
Not very good with this kinda thing but I notice Neil having his arms crossed from the get go before he is even approached and shifting his stance when approached, and I detect relief when asked about his worst mistake of his life and recieving a complement about it. (Patric probably complimentet specifically to see if it would relieve Niel) I also notice Niel licking his lips very quickly when you see him in profile. Just my 5 cents.
All good signs except the crossed arms. There’s a lot of myths surrounding crossed arms. The action of crossing arms doesn’t mean much, it could just be a comfort thing. Crossed arms with tension in the fingers is important. But everything else you said is valuable 😊 and I agree with Jane’s compliment as a test.
I'm late to the party because I just discovered you. But I noticed you repeat a certain thing related to the advertising method. I'm paraphrasing but "the method is not entirely true, but makes for good television".
Jane was only acting confident to make the girl feel hopeless or to make the girl flinch some how and also to Manipulate the girl to thinking its factual info that they have and or to make her feel like its very obvious that they are having an affair (as they say "u cant lie forever"lol) but in reality he wasn't and as u explained he couldn't be 100% sure just from psychological distancing.
Yeeey I didn't get the guy from the other video but I got this one right, right? 🤩 Omg my brain couldn't help thinking... "Person watches this video and decides to come clean with their partner about a third person using "sleeping with" because it sounds better than "having an affair." Person dies." Lol 🤣 I totally get it though...makes total sense. And it was about lying, not telling truth anyways. But I would wanna die all the same if my boyfriend said that. 🤣
I think the answer is post-assumption statement, Jane confidently told her that to see her reaction if he was right, she'd lose confidence and confessed, if he's wrong, she would object his statement even further
Pacing and leading: I sell boardgames. I've sold stupid amounts of game called "Dead of Winter", a zombie survival game by seeing people looking at "Zombies!!!", a far cheaper game, with similar theme and going "I really shouldn't say this as a salesperson, but you don't really want to buy that game, it's just not that good. But if you'd want a really good one, you might want to try this one instead." This ends up getting the customer on my side, as I've helped them out by warning them about a bad purchase. Now when I recommend another game, they feel the recommendation comes from someone who has their best interest at heart, even if the recommended one is more than twice the price. (It also helps on the long term, as Zombies!!! really is a bad game and people who buy it are less likely to come back and buy more, whereas Dead of Winter is quite good. When they're thinking about getting an expansion for it or a new game, they'll remember "the nice guy who gave such a good recommendation" and return to the store. I love it when I can combine manipulation, truthfulness and nerdyness in one interaction.)
What a terrific example! Thanks for sharing. Here’s how I would sell board games if I worked in your store “… … Buy legendary with the apocalypse expansion, thank me later… oh and also one night werewolf with the aliens expansion”
Oh oh oh !!! And lords of Waterdeep with the skullport expansion!!! And shadows over Camelot!!!!! … ok I’m done… … sheriff of Nottingham. Ok Im really done now
My manager once told me she thought I was very smart, as I was a hard worker. But catering isn't *academic.* Plus, I've often struggled at work and grasping tasks. Was she patronizing? Prior, she once asked me if a worker's instructions made sense, not the others
Jane way is the same which i do with my friends, i just fake it with confidence if he or she is honest will react automatically and say i didnt do it, if he or she is silent means they are hiding it and in my case i pressure him to get the truth..
Love your videos! Actually started taking down notes! But will look into getting a book, think it would be really handy in life. At least having the suspicion of someone's deception.
Spidey bro can you please tell me how to master the cold reading I am dying to learn from 1 year and I got some useless books and fake videos any masterclass would help please
Patrick Jane was faking his confidence in order to use it as a mind virus to get the woman's reaction. If she wasn't sleeping with the guy she'd immediately say, "No, I wasn't". But his "confidence" made her stop and wonder whether he actually knew. And that gave her away. By the way, great video as usual.
I think he wanted to test her confidence like back at the court video where she would say something like:"So if somebody said you didn't pay the bill they would be lying, right?". So he pretended to be super confident to check how big her confidence was!If she said something like:"No i didn't sleep with Gordon". She would be telling the truth!If she said something like :"Um..no uh i didn't i swear i didn't"or"how do you know?" or something like that(which of course would be the best).Then she would be lying/
Will we ever get an analysis mare related to Red John? I don't know how you managed to do an episode about him ,but he's such a great character (almost as great as Jane) that I'd like to see your analysis :D
Oh I know how great he is. Which is why I’m really hesitant. It needs to be done right. I also haven’t touched Kristina Frye yet, because there’s soooo much to say about her
i love your channel and abilities.. but as a hypnotherapist, doctor and nato investigator who has interrogated 100s and 100s of terrorists.. it just tv and good fiction.. yes people have TELLS.. i always liked his show.. doc johnny nato sigonella naval air station
So, I paused the video, when Patrick looked her in the eye like that, she held her breath, and her emotion changed, because the lie didn't sell, his challenging behavior ended her deceiver's euphoria. If she truly thought the idea of sleeping with Gordon was a joke, and she never did it, the emotion would have persisted, she literally dropped the act.
Wait.... That's what pacing and leading is? Lol I've always thought it was something else. 🤦 I have alot to learn. Thanks for being a great teacher Spidey. I think it's the coolest thing how you're able to tell so much about people from such little information. I never noticed any of those things from the last episode but I definitely see them now that you pointed it out. Question...does superiority and entitlement go hand in hand? Bc when he asked about the massage it kinda seemed like he just expected her to do that even if she did know that specific technique. Like he was entitled to that or something and maybe that's not really what that was but to me it seems that way but I'm still really curious if those 2 things go together...
It’s actually a really great question. I would say that most people who have a strong sense of entitlement also gave a tendency to have superiority issues. I think it’s pretty safe to correlate in that direction. But I’m not 100% sure that everyone who has a need for superiority feels entitled. I’m a good example, i definitely have some superiority issues but I’m rarely to never entitled. This is a tough one… 🤔
@@SpideyHypnosis ok rightfully so... you're Spidey! Lol but you always seem super humble though🥰 I'm like seriously thinking about this now. I guess I can probably see myself both ways lolol if thats even possible? And yea same I'm not really big on entitlement either. it's usually one of my pet peeves but I'm sure there are probably times where I've felt entitled to things. So that probably makes me kind of a hypocrite lol... Either way it just seemed like those two things would go well together idk🤷 I honestly had no idea psychology was so intricate until recently... definitely interesting though 😅 thank you Spidey❤️
It only took me 2 minutes of watching your content to realize that you have a floating lightbulb on your shelves... XD edit to 5:15 in: ...wait is that the elder wand???
😂. Listen. I have subscribers who have been around for years whom I’m sure haven’t noticed either of those things so you’re way ahead of the curve. But to save you time here’s two more form this layout. Fred weasley’s wand is behind the elder wand and up in the right corner above the UA-cam play button there’s the time turner. It’s extremely subtle tho 😉
Part of it might be the body shift when first asked with the affair, and she was over polite and quiet after being accused of such a "dark" act, pretty much a complete opposite example of the Asian woman and and rich lady.
Body shift is not an indicator of deception unless the person shifts back on their own dominant side (ready to fight or flight) over politeness IS a sign of deception but absolutely not enough. Let me help you out here: he didn’t know she was lying.
Why he was confident is there in the series itself. He's made several accusations based on wild guesses or just to rattle people and put them off guard. Possibly to distract from the actual query in other instances, but i don't think so here. The behaviour stuff is easier than the mentalism stuff. lol.
He didn't actually know if she was lying or not. He just guessed and used some tactics to make it seem like he knew what he was doing and she thought that she was already caught and admitted it.
I think that Patrick thought that the girl was lying but he wasn't sure, so he just tried to bluff his way in and scare her and having her say I wasn't doing that
I don’t think He knows for certain that she’s lying. I know that if a detective looked me in the eyes and made a weird expression + a confident statement. She didn’t know what Patrick knows so she told the truth?
It’s my favorite show of all time. The issue with it is it’s all deductive reasoning and highly exaggerated. Unlike Patrick Jane, Sherlock doesn’t read body language, in fact he’s extremely clueless of the behaviour of those around him. So I wouldn’t have that much to say. Amazing show tho
By staring a person straight in the eye you create psychological discomfort. If a person is already uncomfortable and you think you got a tell on them but not quite sure, I think this could be a great way of zooming in on that tell by building up the pressure. Everyone can lie on the internet, a lot fewer people can lie in person, very few people can lie to somebody straight in the face and not show a single sign that they lack confidence in their statement.
Once again a great video. On the first scene, besides the point that you mentioned. You see that she looked away. But I dont think thats the case why Partick says that she was having a affaire. In the beginning of the scene the suspect says that she wont tell anything to the police. And now she is starting to talk. Even if she diddn't had a affaire, her mind was distracted from not talking. In this way she would more likely answer more questions.
He got up and moved to get a better look at her face. The purpose of that was not to actually try to get a read on her but to make her think he was trying to get a read on her and then gauge her reaction to that. In her mind she's thinking that he's trying to tell if she is lying or not and that makes her give certain other tells. The subtle movements such as the slight turn away from him, etc. The key to this technique is to try to maneuver them into a falsehood, even an irrelevant one so that when you expose the lie, it ramps up the intimidation factor with them thinking that you can tell anytime they are lying, even if you really can't.
Wow first off another amazing video like the whole time i watched mentalist i was j like tht cant be true does someone actually do tht is it even possible n boom all of a sudden spidey here explaining everything. For the answer i think he says it with complete confidence tht she is lying because its kind of like a question to throw her off like if she wasnt lying it would be clear as she would just object straight up and he will understand and if she was lying then she ll get nervous or as seen she will just admit the truth, i am not sure but i think this is it.
The BBC Sherlock (Benedict Cumberbatch) Has a lot of fun with the idea of "Speed Reading". Most of them are highly Accurate, but there are times when he collects all the information and completely draws the wrong conclusion. They have a UA-cam channel, most of the clips are fairly short and might be worth reviewing in your usual fashion.
It’s my favorite tv show of all time. But he uses deductions not behavior analysis. It’s just not my forte, I’m decent at it but not an authority. Love the show tho
@@SpideyHypnosis I was thinking of a specific one, about screwing up the readings, when you mentioned it.... I think it was when he met the future Mrs. Watson, but it's been ages. If you do find it, I'm sure it would make a great example of why Speed reading fails one day :)
@@SpideyHypnosis I remembered her as a Spy, but thought that S just screwed up the Read, as if they were completely separate things instead of "You fell for my Impressive Basckstory/Cover"... Guess it's time to watch them again.
@@lokithecat7225 for me it was like his read was off because there really isn’t a person there TO read haha. He was reading the real her with parts of this made up character.
If you have a slightly different cultural background than the authors of the series (I am not from the U.S.), you are sometimes quite surprised by Patrick Jane's conclusions, because they don't fit your thinking. You are close enough to understand what he's going for, but there is this slight disharmony with your way of looking at things.
Confirmation bias: Patrick already has reason to think the woman was having an affair with the victim, and her use of distancing played into that belief. The fact that she had been sleeping with him made it just a lucky guess. (It may have also been related to the idea of acting confident to test someone else's confidence).
That’s the whole point. In most cases someone who is guilty won’t relax that much. There are always exceptions and comfort isn’t enough to identify someone guilty but of all those examples that was the most realistic one.
I think Jane, as a character, often throws in details like not playing well or with a hint of jazz when it’s basically irrelevant and not going to be verifiable anyway just as an exaggeration of what he can actually do-said with confidence for showmanship…and out of arrogance, maybe, too. He embellishes beyond what he is able to deduce-knowing full well he’s doing that-to exaggerate his ability.
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Lol the way you said "pasta" totally threw me off for a sec lol
My opinion before any clues: If I have learned one thing about Jane he often times isn't that confident, he just uses that to have people tell the truth. Him standing up, looking at her and then confidently saying "Yes, You were." gives the woman a sense of "Oh, he figured me out cuz he obviously saw smth in my expression that told on me" and so she admits to it. That doesnt necessarily mean Jane knew for sure or was that confident, he just acted. He does that a lot lol I think he even admitted that to Lisbon and i think this was one of the cases. The psychological distancing might have give him an idea that she MIGHT be lying and so he used this tactic of being confident to basically have her admit it. If he was wrong, he would just played it off. :D
My head-canon for reading the dead guy at 9:41 is that Patrick sometimes just makes up some unimportant details to seem more impressive. Like you said nobody is that good at deductive reasoning... but they can lie. He started and ended with the important information (that he was killed for romantic reasons) everything else was forgettable filler. Some of the details like 'moderate success' with cougars and playing guitar 'not well' are both subjective and difficult to verify but by adding them to his Sherlock Holmes routine he can pretend to have more information than he really does making him seem more competent. Maybe he does it to impress the local police and make them more cooperative, maybe it's habit from when he was a conman or maybe he just finds it fun.
It’s a very interesting theory…. I like it!
That’s the whole point of being a mentalist, you know just what to say. If you pay attention in the show Jane is always saying stuff that sounds so smart but in reality is just word gargle , it’s a cold reading tactic but yes you called it for sure
@@Hondoken most mentalists are complete crap at cold reading. They rely too much on their tricks and don’t even bother with clever wording like this. The few who do are excellent
@SpideyHypnosis I definitely see what you’re saying for sure. I’ve been watching the mentalist for a few weeks now, but I’ve attempted mentalism for years now and working on reading people, my family won’t even lie around me anymore because of how much I’ve grown, I have to say you’ve definitely made in my top 5 tubers
Yes, this. That’s basically what I thought, too. They didn’t show me the comments till I wrote mine…
I think with the woman at the beginning of this video, Patrick Jane said something confidently to check her confidence in her own answer.
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking. I think he wants to see how she reacts to his confidence.
So essentially Jane was doubling down on that bluff statement. If the women is confident on her statement she wouldn’t buckle?
@@Sergote12 that’s my thought
Pupil dilation
2:50 Patric Jane has an idea, that she is lying, but doesn't know for sure. so he is kinda gambling. Pretending to be sure and put more pressure on her this way. If this had failed, he would have been the weirdo anyway. In this case, it worked. Sometimes, you just have to take risks, make people upset, knock on the bush and watch, what comes out.
He acted confident ,so that he could read her reaction to confirm his hunch later in few seconds.
The mentalist is no not sure that the interrogated woman was not sleeping with Gordon. He says he is to get her reaction and reveal the truth. And the question about the book you recommended to read "Influence" by Robert B. Cialdini I was surprised to know that some people were attacking weather forecast announcers due to bad weather forecasts. I hope this is not happening now!
Spidey that last tutorial, I performed it in my assembly Infront my principal and teachers they just wowed they were amazed I don't have enough words to say that felling of mine when all of them just clapped for me I owe you Spidey in many ways I don't know how to comment my feelings here
Thanku very much Spidey ❤️ Thanku very much 😍
When it comes to Patrick as a character, he tends to guess a lot. Even if he doesn’t believe the answer cuz he wants to see the reaction or trick the person into saying or doing something.
Confidence in another can make you unsure of your own answer and knowledge even if it’s a known fact like the sky is blue. If someone confidently says it isn’t then you start thinking that maybe we aren’t talking about a clear sky or a day sky or whatever. You create your own reasons why you are wrong and can trick yourself into giving up information.
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You just reminded me of my dream TV SHOW, which is Patrick Jane joins the BAU(behavioral analysis unit) to catch the worst of the worst.
Omg how do we make this happen?
@@SpideyHypnosis I believe it's no possible, but a man can dream.
seen this TV show around 8 years ago I think. LOVED IT. Patrick Jane is a very good character and the actor does a hell of a job at playing him. Love that capacity for mental tricks to find out the truth from people, being very observant to environment, very charismatic and smart.
16:46 *wink* I actually laughed out loud. Lmao subtle, spidey
Told you guys it would be subtle !!! 😝
My guess (without having seen the whole video yet) -- He was fishing. Part of Reid technique is to immediately stop the person being interrogated from denying, as the more someone denies something the more they get confident in their story. Add on a bit of theater to make the suspect believe that the interrogator has reliable information. Also, by doubling-down you put the suspect into even more stress, so if their tells will become even more noticeable and you can more easily confirm if you are correct or not, and further lies will be easier to detect.
Brilliant answer! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
Jane didn't learn that from reading her. Yes, I am trying to rememeber the episode, and I do recall the biker gang thing. I am thinking he knew this from other sources and is simply declaring it as fact. Makes him come off a little supernatural, and dismays the subject. She isn't nearly so confident afterwards, or as confrontational. I think he knew from the wife and son.....If I recall correctly.... Maybe he was guessing it was her, but he knew it was someone, and she was a likely candidate.
We'll see!
This is contextually a great point. Now imagine if he knew absolutely nothing about her. Because my reason for him doing that would work even if he had 0 information
I think Jane acted like he spotted signs of lying to bait her.
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Didn't expect so much can be deduced from that asylum scene 😨.. simply amazing Spidey...keep doing this... it's real fun
I think Jane just threw that question like a spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks. Maybe he was expecting a more confused or insulted reaction back and she was pretty mellow about it.
Suggestion for react scene: s7e2. Liz goes undercover to prison to gain trust of an inmate and Jane teaches her how to do it.
Love the spaghetti analogy lol. I’m doing the seasons in order more or less. I’m still on the first 3, but we’ll get there eventually 😊
Wow, the breakdown of the small bits was super interesting Mr.Spidy . The explanation of the clip from the last video was like mind blowing , soo many things can tell about a person 🤯. Also about the question , I think it started by the changes in her expression as well as her changing her sitting position (but it looks like she was shifting in order to have a proper look at Mr. Patrick) and in the end Mr. Patrick did a bluff , kind of a trap. Thank you Mr.Spidy for delivering such an awesome piece of knowledge to us 😊.
I start warch the series because of you thanks mr spidey. Love mentalist love magic so love your channel and you
Brings back memories. One of my childhood fav series. No lying.
Funny, when I was working in retail, I was using the “Pacing and Leading” tactic to develop trust and sell the products, and I never knew it had a name…or was a method, for that matter. 😂
Me: bored af
Spidey posts a video: 🏃🏃🏃🏃
You basically answered the question and I just understood that it's more entertaining to make myself see what's the answer. Commenting for the algorithm
Spidey: Nobody plans to kill someone in the middle of the public mall
Me after watching the show: I'm afraid I disagree
I definitely think about it sometimes! LOL
Everytime I hear about reading people I'm remembered of "Lie to me"... well, and sherlock holmes XD... but what would be your thoughts on Lie to me? I remember it being quite fun.
It’s based on Paul Ekman’s work. He is the master of micro expressions. I don’t use micro expressions too much, if I happen to catch one; great, but that’s not what I’m looking for in most cases. Fun show tho
Vouala the answer to the first question is right here: 16:37
Patrick tried to find out something from her reaction ...when being accused. He was not sure so he Just played to see her reaction. My eyes are closing... Gonna have to watch the rest tomorrow but im so curious 😭
This was great video spidey and I am not sure but you told us about body language in past videos and I think I saw some of them like she sighs, for a sec she took her eyes off and also the mentalist check her confidence at last ...... I don't now if I am correct because I m just a beginner
And also I have a question-: that torch is failing the law of gravity😅
Haha my lamp is indeed magical!
So again: she did not have enough signs of deception for him to know anything. He didn’t know she was lying. He was confident for a different reason
He is killing my boredom. Thanks ,man
Great breakdown. I always wondered how close to reality these Sherlock Holmes-type shows are.
The next episode I did about this is very much about Sherlock Holmes style deductions. You might enjoy it 😊
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If a real life version of Among Us is invented Spidey would rank top #1
Not playing long is because calluses have age. New ones are more pronounced, sometimes damaged. Old ones that remain look more normal to hardened skin and have more skinlike tones.
He didn’t say he hasn’t been playing long. He said he “plays guitar, not well”. Two verrrry different things 😉
I place my word as my most valuable possession excepting life. I aim to cultivate my accountability, and I work hard to keep my word, and being direct, truthful, or I truthfully go silent or tell someone to beat it. I've studied all manner of manipulation. I have NO desire to deceive, and view that as a lesser power than persuading and pre-suading a target to come over to sync with my resolve. I have no need for being "Right" I aim instead to be ACCURATE.
in an episode of the mentalist jane figures out that red john is someone he has shaken hands with. so he makes a list of every single person he has shaken hands with in the last 10 years. is that even possible? or was that movie magic. if it’s real how would you remember such things?
Great question. If you have me a list of 50 people and asked me to remember them; no problem because I’m counting them to memory on purpose but thinking back and recalling every person I’ve shook hands with in the last few years requires me to remember everytime I shook someone’s hand, THEN remember who they are. don’t think it can be done.
I think he recalled every person who have an authority or some influence or power which really narrow down the list
I don't think it's completely possible, but he has mentioned his "memory palace" which is a legitimate technique for remembering many details, so I think it's feasible he could remember many people who seemed off during a handshake
@@solidus4prez I’ve talked about memory palace in two other breakdowns. That’s not how a memory palace works. It’s not for long term things like this. Everytime you use your memory palace you clear it out to remember the new information. So unless he had a SEPARATE memory palace to specifically remember people who’s hand he shook, he didn’t use his memory palace.
Awesome Spidey as always 💗
I always love the way you explain how realistic Patrick Jane is, especially since he was my first inspiration to try mentalism
They had a professional Mentalist working with them on the show. I don't remember his name, but the dvd extras have bits of him talking about the show.
@@Rennies-World I’m aware. It was one of the reasons that made me want to try it more so. Get the social psychology along with the trickery involved and try it
@@Rennies-World Luke Jermay ?
@@alvianmahardika7812 Yes. I found it on the dvds. 😁
@@Rennies-World Luke Jermay is a great Mentalist. He was consulting mentalist for Derren Brown, which is reference for Patrick Jane character
A video idea/question, lately there have been an increase in AR Games and some as damaging as Q-Anon where the viewer is giving a Davinci Code type clue to uncover a "secret" going on in plain sight. Somehow this re enforces their beliefs and hooks the viewer in to conspiracy theories. What is this phenomonon called and what psch studies illustrates this effect?
Sorry sir for late attendence...How you explain this in very simple words that's great. Thank you so much for describing this.
Amazing video, Spidey 💕
Love the interaction with your audience! I know people have already answered but I caught that *wink* and I was like oooh... Oooh... then rewatched it and pieced it together and I felt so cool 😂
At first I thought it was like he was looking for eye contact, blinking, looking away et cetera in response to his stark statement but I now know that he testing her confidence in his statement :)
Thank you 🤩
Wow this video is great! My guess is that he said she was lying because if he was wrong, he could have just dismissed it, but because he is right and acting confident, she ended up feeling like she had been caught. You could say "sometimes we say something we really aren't sure of with a lot of confidence to test someone else's confidence to get the truth out of them 😉 "
Hahahaha 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻. That answer is so well phrased it feels like I said it!
Didn't know the Avis ad story, it's a genius move
I would be interested in you commenting on one of those televised High Stakes poker games.
It’s realllly hard to know when a trained poker player is bluffing because 1) they’re trained to not react 2) I can’t interrogate them, usually out signals leak during an interaction and 3) the consequences of their lie are winning money not going to jail so the mind isn’t scared of getting caught which is the reason we see what we see to begin with.
@@SpideyHypnosis Your of course right about all of that. If someone could 100% read the players they would be rich quick. It would still make for an interesting video.
The hell. This sounds like Sherlock. The one with death.
Wow nice vid spidey like always
Wow amazing learned a lot
Not very good with this kinda thing but I notice Neil having his arms crossed from the get go before he is even approached and shifting his stance when approached, and I detect relief when asked about his worst mistake of his life and recieving a complement about it. (Patric probably complimentet specifically to see if it would relieve Niel) I also notice Niel licking his lips very quickly when you see him in profile. Just my 5 cents.
All good signs except the crossed arms. There’s a lot of myths surrounding crossed arms. The action of crossing arms doesn’t mean much, it could just be a comfort thing. Crossed arms with tension in the fingers is important. But everything else you said is valuable 😊 and I agree with Jane’s compliment as a test.
you always have such a positive and awesome way of explaining these things keep up the good work!!
I'm late to the party because I just discovered you. But I noticed you repeat a certain thing related to the advertising method. I'm paraphrasing but "the method is not entirely true, but makes for good television".
Jane was only acting confident to make the girl feel hopeless or to make the girl flinch some how and also to Manipulate the girl to thinking its factual info that they have and or to make her feel like its very obvious that they are having an affair (as they say "u cant lie forever"lol) but in reality he wasn't and as u explained he couldn't be 100% sure just from psychological distancing.
Yeeey I didn't get the guy from the other video but I got this one right, right? 🤩 Omg my brain couldn't help thinking... "Person watches this video and decides to come clean with their partner about a third person using "sleeping with" because it sounds better than "having an affair." Person dies." Lol 🤣 I totally get it though...makes total sense. And it was about lying, not telling truth anyways. But I would wanna die all the same if my boyfriend said that. 🤣
I think the answer is post-assumption statement, Jane confidently told her that to see her reaction if he was right, she'd lose confidence and confessed, if he's wrong, she would object his statement even further
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Pacing and leading: I sell boardgames. I've sold stupid amounts of game called "Dead of Winter", a zombie survival game by seeing people looking at "Zombies!!!", a far cheaper game, with similar theme and going "I really shouldn't say this as a salesperson, but you don't really want to buy that game, it's just not that good. But if you'd want a really good one, you might want to try this one instead."
This ends up getting the customer on my side, as I've helped them out by warning them about a bad purchase. Now when I recommend another game, they feel the recommendation comes from someone who has their best interest at heart, even if the recommended one is more than twice the price. (It also helps on the long term, as Zombies!!! really is a bad game and people who buy it are less likely to come back and buy more, whereas Dead of Winter is quite good. When they're thinking about getting an expansion for it or a new game, they'll remember "the nice guy who gave such a good recommendation" and return to the store. I love it when I can combine manipulation, truthfulness and nerdyness in one interaction.)
What a terrific example! Thanks for sharing. Here’s how I would sell board games if I worked in your store “… … Buy legendary with the apocalypse expansion, thank me later… oh and also one night werewolf with the aliens expansion”
Oh oh oh !!! And lords of Waterdeep with the skullport expansion!!! And shadows over Camelot!!!!! … ok I’m done… … sheriff of Nottingham. Ok Im really done now
My manager once told me she thought I was very smart, as I was a hard worker. But catering isn't *academic.* Plus, I've often struggled at work and grasping tasks. Was she patronizing? Prior, she once asked me if a worker's instructions made sense, not the others
Jane way is the same which i do with my friends, i just fake it with confidence if he or she is honest will react automatically and say i didnt do it, if he or she is silent means they are hiding it and in my case i pressure him to get the truth..
Nailed this one
Love your videos! Actually started taking down notes! But will look into getting a book, think it would be really handy in life. At least having the suspicion of someone's deception.
Spidey bro can you please tell me how to master the cold reading I am dying to learn from 1 year and I got some useless books and fake videos any masterclass would help please
Love this! I've watched that scene many times, and your great analysis explains why I was so obsessed with it!
Thanks 😊
Patrick Jane was faking his confidence in order to use it as a mind virus to get the woman's reaction. If she wasn't sleeping with the guy she'd immediately say, "No, I wasn't". But his "confidence" made her stop and wonder whether he actually knew. And that gave her away.
By the way, great video as usual.
🎯 nailed that!
I think he wanted to test her confidence like back at the court video where she would say something like:"So if somebody said you didn't pay the bill they would be lying, right?". So he pretended to be super confident to check how big her confidence was!If she said something like:"No i didn't sleep with Gordon". She would be telling the truth!If she said something like :"Um..no uh i didn't i swear i didn't"or"how do you know?" or something like that(which of course would be the best).Then she would be lying/
🎯 great callback to judge Judy too! Good job!
big fan of you spidey keep it up giving us that tutorial
Nice. "It tastes awfull and it works" fooled me. Thanks for an amazing video.
Will we ever get an analysis mare related to Red John? I don't know how you managed to do an episode about him ,but he's such a great character (almost as great as Jane) that I'd like to see your analysis :D
Oh I know how great he is. Which is why I’m really hesitant. It needs to be done right. I also haven’t touched Kristina Frye yet, because there’s soooo much to say about her
i love your channel and abilities..
but as a hypnotherapist, doctor and nato investigator who has interrogated 100s and 100s of terrorists..
it just tv and good fiction.. yes people have TELLS.. i always liked his show..
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I agree it’s insanely exaggerated and nobody can do it that well. But it’s based on real techniques just.. embellished
Great video.
Yoo spidey this Pasing and Leading is mainly used in hypnosis right😈
Hypnotists use it ALOT! It’s really effective
Liked that pacing and leading example of shoe sale
So, I paused the video, when Patrick looked her in the eye like that, she held her breath, and her emotion changed, because the lie didn't sell, his challenging behavior ended her deceiver's euphoria. If she truly thought the idea of sleeping with Gordon was a joke, and she never did it, the emotion would have persisted, she literally dropped the act.
Wait.... That's what pacing and leading is? Lol I've always thought it was something else. 🤦 I have alot to learn. Thanks for being a great teacher Spidey. I think it's the coolest thing how you're able to tell so much about people from such little information. I never noticed any of those things from the last episode but I definitely see them now that you pointed it out. Question...does superiority and entitlement go hand in hand? Bc when he asked about the massage it kinda seemed like he just expected her to do that even if she did know that specific technique. Like he was entitled to that or something and maybe that's not really what that was but to me it seems that way but I'm still really curious if those 2 things go together...
It’s actually a really great question. I would say that most people who have a strong sense of entitlement also gave a tendency to have superiority issues. I think it’s pretty safe to correlate in that direction. But I’m not 100% sure that everyone who has a need for superiority feels entitled. I’m a good example, i definitely have some superiority issues but I’m rarely to never entitled. This is a tough one… 🤔
@@SpideyHypnosis ok rightfully so... you're Spidey! Lol but you always seem super humble though🥰 I'm like seriously thinking about this now. I guess I can probably see myself both ways lolol if thats even possible? And yea same I'm not really big on entitlement either. it's usually one of my pet peeves but I'm sure there are probably times where I've felt entitled to things. So that probably makes me kind of a hypocrite lol... Either way it just seemed like those two things would go well together idk🤷 I honestly had no idea psychology was so intricate until recently...
definitely interesting though 😅
thank you Spidey❤️
It only took me 2 minutes of watching your content to realize that you have a floating lightbulb on your shelves... XD
edit to 5:15 in: ...wait is that the elder wand???
😂. Listen. I have subscribers who have been around for years whom I’m sure haven’t noticed either of those things so you’re way ahead of the curve. But to save you time here’s two more form this layout. Fred weasley’s wand is behind the elder wand and up in the right corner above the UA-cam play button there’s the time turner. It’s extremely subtle tho 😉
Part of it might be the body shift when first asked with the affair, and she was over polite and quiet after being accused of such a "dark" act, pretty much a complete opposite example of the Asian woman and and rich lady.
Body shift is not an indicator of deception unless the person shifts back on their own dominant side (ready to fight or flight) over politeness IS a sign of deception but absolutely not enough. Let me help you out here: he didn’t know she was lying.
Why he was confident is there in the series itself. He's made several accusations based on wild guesses or just to rattle people and put them off guard. Possibly to distract from the actual query in other instances, but i don't think so here. The behaviour stuff is easier than the mentalism stuff. lol.
He didn't actually know if she was lying or not. He just guessed and used some tactics to make it seem like he knew what he was doing and she thought that she was already caught and admitted it.
Bam!
I think that Patrick thought that the girl was lying but he wasn't sure, so he just tried to bluff his way in and scare her and having her say I wasn't doing that
Yep. Exactly.
Hinge the app that's designed to be deleted... Literally every guy was thinking yeah so my wife doesn't find it
Hahahaha
I don’t think He knows for certain that she’s lying. I know that if a detective looked me in the eyes and made a weird expression + a confident statement. She didn’t know what Patrick knows so she told the truth?
Hah I didn’t finish my thought lol. I know that if a detective looked me in the eyes… etc that I would think they know more than I realize
Yo spidey! Please do a video on Sherlock. It's not mentalism but a lot of good reading and reasoning.
It’s my favorite show of all time. The issue with it is it’s all deductive reasoning and highly exaggerated. Unlike Patrick Jane, Sherlock doesn’t read body language, in fact he’s extremely clueless of the behaviour of those around him. So I wouldn’t have that much to say. Amazing show tho
At the first scene i think he didnt really knew if she was lying but he acted like he is 100 % sure so she didn't see the point of lying anymore.
Exactly 😊
By staring a person straight in the eye you create psychological discomfort. If a person is already uncomfortable and you think you got a tell on them but not quite sure, I think this could be a great way of zooming in on that tell by building up the pressure. Everyone can lie on the internet, a lot fewer people can lie in person, very few people can lie to somebody straight in the face and not show a single sign that they lack confidence in their statement.
Once again a great video.
On the first scene, besides the point that you mentioned. You see that she looked away. But I dont think thats the case why Partick says that she was having a affaire.
In the beginning of the scene the suspect says that she wont tell anything to the police. And now she is starting to talk. Even if she diddn't had a affaire, her mind was distracted from not talking. In this way she would more likely answer more questions.
Just finished your playlist... Thanks alot. Higly appreciating your work need more from influencing and human behaviour...
You got it! Coming next week 😊. I have a persuasion playlist too with great videos and tips
@@SpideyHypnosis Thanks alot my friend, actually i was searching about it your channel helps me alot. Keep it up my support is with you....
He got up and moved to get a better look at her face. The purpose of that was not to actually try to get a read on her but to make her think he was trying to get a read on her and then gauge her reaction to that. In her mind she's thinking that he's trying to tell if she is lying or not and that makes her give certain other tells. The subtle movements such as the slight turn away from him, etc. The key to this technique is to try to maneuver them into a falsehood, even an irrelevant one so that when you expose the lie, it ramps up the intimidation factor with them thinking that you can tell anytime they are lying, even if you really can't.
oh man im gonna watch mentalist again
You got a new subscriber !!
Patrick Jane told that she was lying so he can get the correct thing out of her. He was really confident so she said the truth
Wow first off another amazing video like the whole time i watched mentalist i was j like tht cant be true does someone actually do tht is it even possible n boom all of a sudden spidey here explaining everything.
For the answer i think he says it with complete confidence tht she is lying because its kind of like a question to throw her off like if she wasnt lying it would be clear as she would just object straight up and he will understand and if she was lying then she ll get nervous or as seen she will just admit the truth, i am not sure but i think this is it.
That IS it! Good job
@@SpideyHypnosis wait wht i actually got it damn wasnt expecting tht
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Thanks for uploading this video, really helped me out in my daily life!!!
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Not again!!!😱😱😱 u and Dr. Mike have posted at the same time
The BBC Sherlock (Benedict Cumberbatch) Has a lot of fun with the idea of "Speed Reading". Most of them are highly Accurate, but there are times when he collects all the information and completely draws the wrong conclusion.
They have a UA-cam channel, most of the clips are fairly short and might be worth reviewing in your usual fashion.
It’s my favorite tv show of all time. But he uses deductions not behavior analysis. It’s just not my forte, I’m decent at it but not an authority. Love the show tho
@@SpideyHypnosis I was thinking of a specific one, about screwing up the readings, when you mentioned it.... I think it was when he met the future Mrs. Watson, but it's been ages. If you do find it, I'm sure it would make a great example of why Speed reading fails one day :)
@@lokithecat7225 there’s actually a brilliant justification for his failure… she’s a fake lol
@@SpideyHypnosis I remembered her as a Spy, but thought that S just screwed up the Read, as if they were completely separate things instead of "You fell for my Impressive Basckstory/Cover"...
Guess it's time to watch them again.
@@lokithecat7225 for me it was like his read was off because there really isn’t a person there TO read haha. He was reading the real her with parts of this made up character.
Man I love this your series, never boring ,learn something new and have fun ... #Respect
If you have a slightly different cultural background than the authors of the series (I am not from the U.S.), you are sometimes quite surprised by Patrick Jane's conclusions, because they don't fit your thinking. You are close enough to understand what he's going for, but there is this slight disharmony with your way of looking at things.
Confirmation bias: Patrick already has reason to think the woman was having an affair with the victim, and her use of distancing played into that belief. The fact that she had been sleeping with him made it just a lucky guess. (It may have also been related to the idea of acting confident to test someone else's confidence).
Ha. Then confirmation bias is actually going the other way. She thinks he can magically know when people lie, so might as well confess.
If that killer sat in sofa arms relaxing and be calm answered Patrick answers calmly he wouldn't get caught Lol.
That’s the whole point. In most cases someone who is guilty won’t relax that much. There are always exceptions and comfort isn’t enough to identify someone guilty but of all those examples that was the most realistic one.
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Thanks Spidey for this video,AMAZING how you explain this.ooo another thing like yr shirt you can do good magic w it like force a object.keep it up!
I think Jane, as a character, often throws in details like not playing well or with a hint of jazz when it’s basically irrelevant and not going to be verifiable anyway just as an exaggeration of what he can actually do-said with confidence for showmanship…and out of arrogance, maybe, too. He embellishes beyond what he is able to deduce-knowing full well he’s doing that-to exaggerate his ability.
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