It’s because Angela was presented as a scummy character throughout the majority of the series until near the end when she got humbled. So her doing something terrible doesn’t necessarily make people hate her since we know she’s mainly a caricature of that super rude and obnoxious hypocrite of the cast. Pam is presented as one of the “good guys” of the cast. Someone who’s meant to stand for “good” on the moral spectrums presented by the show. So when Pam does something bad, it hits much harder since that’s not what’s expected from her character.
Cause the show tried so much to make her and jim the "good people" so their bad behaviour never had backlash or noticed, so that make her annoying for some viewers, and i personally hate the "vanilla" vibe they had too
I think we should talk about Angela. Cheating while engaged, bullying especially to Phyllis and Kevin, hiring an assasin (for kneecapping at least) and so on.
The fact that Pam is hated for things that other characters aren’t even questioned for shows that Pam is the realest. The other characters mistakes are made into jokes and laughed off because of their personality. However pams are often written into the story and often developed into arcs because her character does make real mistakes and they do properly effect her, like any other human.
I agree although I think the issue is that the others don't pretend to be anything they're not. Angela and Dwight are always rude and weird. That's authentic. Pam (and Jim) think they're the only sane ones around while they also bully, lie, act arrogant and generally misbehave. I had the impression they were hypocrites judging others from a high horse of self-righteousness. To me the most authentic person is Dwight.
It’s because with every other character, it is acknowledged every time they do something wrong. The show shines a negative light on it. The show never does that with Jim or Pam. They are always painted as the good guys, no matter what they do. Even when they do the EXACT same bad thing that another character did (who was made to look bad for it), it tries to nudge you into siding with Jim/Pam. If the show made them look wrong when they did things that were wrong like they do for everyone else and held everyone to the same standard... they wouldn’t be hated on the way that they are. The only time Pam was ever painted to be wrong... was the time she ruined Jim’s prank, which isn’t even bad. Everyone does bad things. But the show likes to pretend that some characters do no wrong.
@@showmeyourteeth27Your ability to interpret the show is obviously dog shit. "The show wants you to like them, so I don't." Thanks for your hipster ass opinion. Is this a "Pam cheated too" argument? Angela FUCKED Dwight while engaged to Andy, and fucked Andy while telling Dwight she wasn't. Pam kissed a dude, even if you ignore the years of her boyfriend refusing to commit and being a total piece of shit, kissing one person isn't the same as repeatedly having cheating sex. Jim also isn't "shown to be the good guy" the show literally just plays out events, you can fucking react to it however you want. Jim is a level headed person who is cool in some ways, and a jerk in others, and the show doesn't hide that fact because if it did none of us would fucking be aware of his negetive qualities. You people just want to dislike popular characters. There are people like you about every dc character, medium, or topic in popular culture, you're easy to spot because your arguments are non sequiturs.
Personally I find Phyllis insufferable at times. Most of the time she's not really on camera and when she is, it's pretty ok. But there are instances where Phyllis' attidude is through the roof and she's the sassiest and most annoying person in the building.
I can live with Ryan not being on the list, but Gabe, he was so annoying, you have no idea how many times I wanted him to leave or throw a chair at him...
@@mozzarellakrunccy5655 I don’t see how Pam has been a brat? Maybe I just haven’t been paying attention, but I think she’s just more socially awkward is afraid of big changes. I personally don’t see her as a brat or anything like it, but that’s just my opinion I guess :/
@@nestlyyyy Well she's not that bad that's why it's hard to see sometimes. But like her whole war with Ryan even though Ryan is the worst and like when Dwight is listening to Eybody Hurts and she and Jim comfort him but like in a mocking way, and the whole thing with The Committee to Plan Parties, and when she has ttalking head about raising her hand for Jim's idea where she says "I forgot I have to support him." She's no where near the bratty levels of like Kelley, but when she does stuff like that it's like her version of Jim's pranks. It's her coping mechanism and I think it's part of her charm.
Pam was one of the only characters who cared about others feelings and tried to help them feel better when they were sad. If you analyse every character in the office as detailed as people are analysing pams, everyone else is much worse and heartless. Also surprised that Angela or ryan are not on the list.
I appreciate your assessment of Pam as a caring (if Pollyanna) soul, but there are those whose own self-awareness makes them “irritated” by those seeking better angels. Just sayin.
@@stolenart9290 and then being completely vindicated after you accept that said immature boss is dating your mom and then he breaks up with her on her birthday with you there cuz she's too old. Pam had every reason and right to not want Michael to date her mom.
people don't really get annoyed by ryan and jan. both those character really help to flush out other character and develop characters. well as Pete is boderline the worst character arc i've seen on tv
Charles kicks the ball 100 mph at Jim's face from point blank range and proceeds to ask him why he ducked. That is my most hated moment of the entire show.
YES THANK YOU!!! I had that exact thought! The man launched the ball like a fucking rocket straight at someone's face during a parking lot kickabout lmao.
I agree. I think they broke through an unnecessary wall by going down that path. We never did learn when Jim and Pam became friends with Brian and his wife, how long, etc. Never knew why they got divorced (other than to create another potential love triangle for Pam). Never fully explored if Brian had interest in Pam. The fight she had with Brian about the hot mic's didn't really make sense. It was just a lot of drifting fluff.
I think Angela deserves to be on this list. She is always picky, in a bad mood, making others feel bad, had an affair, made Andy and Dwight duel over her.
I agree with you. I don't like his first season, but after that, he was fine. And then, in the final season, he was awful again. I understand that they needed to give him an excuse to leave, but he didn't have to be so annoying and rude. But okay hahs
I really don’t understand why they screwed over Andy so bad in season 9. His character developed so much over the show, and they completely threw all of that away in the last season. He was finally with the woman he loved, but then he left her to go on a random boat trip. Andy’s character really went downhill from there. He became manipulative, controlling, and just stupid. I think that it was very unnecessary. And it kinda seemed like the writers were out of ideas, so they just made Andy a douche.
@@Pshady23 well he left for the movie so they came up with that stupid reason for Andy to leave for a while instead of just giving him a vacation or something
@@axelgonzalez1248 The boat trip with his brother was when he made the Hangover movie. So, after he came back, he was seen as a bigger douche than before. Season 8, he probably wanted out, plus the show was close to running its course at this point.
I think Pam was a positive character, the fact that she cared about everyone in the office. She was always the one that needed to cheer up micheal when everyone turned their back on him. Also she did a good job being the office administrator.
Pam is a horrible, horrible wife. She never seems to evolve nor being comfortable with anything resembling chance. She's such a simple, boring and plain women. Jim gave up his dream to be with her. Jim gave up being manager SEVERAL Times for her. A dream that could've set their family up for years. She never realized that Jim made sacrifices too and actually doubting Jim's loyalty. I Hate her, God I hate her
@@justynajajko1882 when did i say she was supposed to be a nanny, i was saying she’s selfish and doesn’t care for anyone in the office besides jim and sometimes michael
not gonna get into it, but Pam had every right to act the way she did during the Philly arc bc let's not forget, Jim was lying to her and hiding that he had invested in the company for several episodes. she expressed how she felt about investing, and instead of having a conversation with her about it, he went behind her back. they're _married_ it's her money and her life too.
Also she was left raising their kids that at some points it seemed like he straight up didnt care about like the recital, and he had a history of doing things behind her back like buying the parents house
I hated Jim at that time, leaving his wife with 2 babies because he had a dream. How hard it must be to be an almost single mother of two and a working mother. I'd be a total zombie.
@@dickottel it's not like he did it out of pure self enjoyment. Starting his own company so that he can provide more for his family + doing what he likes. Of course it's not perfect because Pam had to deal with 2 kids, but like no one is in the right or the wrong here.
🎶you took me by the hand, and maaade me a man. That one night (one night) you made everything alriiiiiight. So wrong, so write, all night, all right, aw yeah.🎶 I didnt even have to search for this song, its burned into my brain
the fact that erin only accepted because of the power dynamic between the two, the fact that erin is a receptionist and gabe was the boss is just disgusting.
The difference is Pam is one of the protagonists and is treated as a good person whereas characters like Angela and Ryan are treated as villians. Heroes are just held up to much more scrutiny, not daint I agree with this but thats the way she goes.
@@michaelbarker6732 if you treat any "main cast" character as a villain, then maybe you didn't understand the show at all, the whole point is that they are real people with flaws
@@rosiii9mmmm no. Angela is 100% a villian up until later in the show, and especially so in seasons 2-4. Jan is kindof a villian, Roy is definitely a villian, Ryan becomes a villian, and Michael even starts out as a villian that is not meant to have redeeming qualities in the first season. Jim and Pam are consistently used as the straight men in joke set ups and that is kindof what I am saying when I say the show doesn’t really intend for them to be bad people the way it does with Angela. Some things they do ARE presented as being wrong, like later when Jim is putting his new company over his family, but most of the stuff they do is clearly not meant to be perceived as bad. That’s why when they do things that aren’t actually great, like Jim just refusing to call Andy Drew, it comes off as more jarring because the show is not, in that moment, trying to say “hey look Jim is being a dick.”
Gabe is generally pretty hated (despite I like him). Also Roy is designed to be a villan, and he is undoubteldy the most hated of the firsts season, i also hate the fact that he had one of the most incredible (and undeserved) happy ending. California was amazing but the writers didn't have specific plans for him and eventually they inexplicably turned him into a sexual maniac, completely disinterested in his job. Andy was probably my favorite character after Michel but they destroy him in the last season, without any reason.
@@neal3914 I don't know honestly . Also Carrell left the show (forever) but the writers gave him a perfect happy ending. I think they tried to change Andy's character to make him funnier and similar to Michael (and they miserably failed, destroying his path during the preavious seasons) Also in the latest episodes of the 8 season and in the first few episodes of season 9 he was becoming pretty annoying.
I love that people think Pam actively (or even passively) tries to break up Jim and Karen. She literally convinced Jim to stop being an idiot and let Karen move in down the street. In being more honest with herself, she says in the last episode of season 3 that she and Jim never got their timing right, accepting that there’s nothing left to happen between them, until Jim comes in and asks her on a date.
Pam is a horrible character. She is bitchy, has a horrible attitude and always complains about her baby weight. She also made Jim quit his dream career in Phili just because she is a selfish bitch.
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I still don't get how pam is hated so much... she's one of the best characters in my opinion.. she's kind and helpful to everyone .. plus no one is perfect...
I see Pam Haters as the same ones that will angrily argue to the death that 'Die Hard' is a Christmas movie. 😄 And Ryan isn't on this list? My, how the turntables...
Hate or love Nellie, Catherine Tate did the best anyone could do with the material she was given. Personally I find her performance as Nellie hilarious, despite being annoyed by Nellie’s actions.
She just constantly holds back herself and the people around her due to her insecurities. For example, when she left Roy, he was noticeably happy and had his own business. Before, he was stuck in a job he hated solely because Pam wanted to have him there. Jim wanted to start his own business and Pam held him back because she didn’t want to deal with change. She isn’t interesting and she doesn’t have a defining personality that really makes her seem interesting. I mean compare Pam to Dwight, Jim, or Michael and the huge difference is the personality and jokes. In my opinion, that’s why she’s hated.
@@Shockingbeard From what? I see this all the time, what is she holding him back from? Promotions at work? Jim is promoted several times at DM. When Wallace comes in to talk about making him a manager, Pam is sitting right there, cheering him on. Working in Philly? Jim actually works in Philly and leaves of his own volition. Working at corporate? Jim turned that down on his own. Working in Maryland? All Jim. Jim wants a family. Pam provides him with a family. What exactly is he being held back from? The main knock on Jim is that he doesn't care about his work. Is that something Pam is making him do? Literally every decision Jim makes is on his own, without her input. Buying a house, moving to Stamford, the Niagara Falls plan B at the wedding, working in Philly; all Jim Halpert. She factors into them, but he makes them on his own.
Number one for me would definitely be Phyllis. She was sweet at times, but she stole Pams wedding, let guys flirt with her so Bob could beat them up, had a hit and run with Bob that potentially left the victim dead and so many uncalled for comments like the thing that Pam can't assign clients to whoever she is sleeping with that week. Yikes.
Oh for sure!! I think she gets away with it because most of the time she is a little more forgettable. But she is a horrible person. Oh also her and Bob ran someone over on their honeymoon and just left him there.
Phyllis definitely got worse when she married Bob. She was always looking for that power and money and Bob had both so she could indulge in that lifestyle.
I absolutely adore Robert California. Right up there with Creed as my favourites. Also I’m very confused about the Pam hate I thought she was a great character.
Same here man, I think the writers did a great job (and must have loved writing for him) I'd have loved to see more of him, whatever his actual name is.
I really feel so sorry for Andy Bernad he's was my favourite character after anger management. But the writers literally butchered his character. He was left with nothing by the end.
I hated the replacement guy Who made Aaron left Andy right when he started talking to Aaron and I already hated him from experience having trust issues
That warehouse guy..... I’m so glad he didn’t last even an episode. I felt bad Pam had to suffer through such a brainless bully who ruined her mural in an inappropriate way.
I feel like, of all the choices made during season 9, Clark is one of the few wins. It's a shame he had to leave for a chunk of episodes for the actor to film a movie because he had really good chemistry with Dwight. There is, though, the one episode where he gets super creepy with Erin about the whole TV hosting job which aged like milk. But aside from that, he was a great foil to the characters he was paired with. The actor found the right balance between him being a bit of a smartass but also having heart, and him trying to fit in with Dwight was always the best part of his episodes. Plop, on the other hand, was really boring and didn't have much chemistry with anyone. He was basically there just so they could get yet another romance going and ruin Andy's relationship with Erin.
I never knew people hated Pam so much. My favorite characters are 1. Dwight 2. Kevin and 3. Pam I’m sorry but Pam is very relatable to me even more than Jim and I enjoy watching her make tough choices and grow as a person. Also her relationship with Dwight and other people in the office is very nice. She is a kind person who cares about people but she also has enough self-respect to not have people walk all over her. Feel free to argue but Beasley doesn’t seem that bad to me
I love Pam too! For all the same reasons you've said, she's not perfect but owns it and in the end she overcomes a lot (as well as standing up for herself, when she sells the house and is finally happy with leaving Scranton)
I don't hate Brian. I actually feel really bad for him. I see a guy who, over the course of 9 or 10 years, fell in love with one of the subjects of the documentary and was never able to pursue Pam (Due to his employment with the filming crew) and, effectively, had to watch Jim pursue those same feelings for the same girl and win her over, get married, and start a family. I think his breaking point was when he saw Jim start to squander the love he and Pam had created over the years.
Ed Helms breathed life into Andy’s character with his acting, singing and his talent of playing so many musical instruments. Andy’s character arc didn’t deserve the way the creators had to end it and worst part is that Erin and Andy didn’t happen. Instead plop and Erin happened. That was really sad and weird.
Honestly I think that Erin was bad for Andy. I think she should have ended up with just herself, especially because she was rebuilding a relationship w her parents at the end.
I know I’m in the ‘Minority’ on this, but I actually like Charles Minor in the show. He’s the closest thing the show has to a villain and is the antithesis of Michael’s philosophy. And Idris Elba plays him perfectly!
Idris Elba is truly remarkable in the role. Shoulda got an Emmy for his portrayal. The reason the character was so unlikeable was his incredible acting! He got him so well.
Pam does lots of questionable things but so does everyone on the show do I don’t think that’s a reason to despise her. Personally I like Pam but it’s definitely subjective so I get why people do hate her.
The people that hate her don't understand anything about the office. The goal of the show is to display an "ordinary" paper company and these people are humans, they need to be relatable. And for them to be relatable, humans, they need flaws. I understand that Pam did some "shitty" things, but they are reasons justifying this, and hating her for that feels a bit extreme to me
I think it’s also because she’s one of the main characters, and unlike Michael, she usually knows what she’s doing. Having moments where she does questionable stuff can probably throw people off a bit That being said though, I think those moments are important in making her character more human
You know, I bet the people that hate Pam probably hate her for the same reasons they might not like themselves. Because Pam is the most ordinary character in my opinion. Which is good for the show. She has a really huge character arc. I think she's the one that does the most growing in the show
I think Toby is the only character in the series which is a true friend to michael. He geniunly likes michael, wants to befriend him even after all of blatant attempts of michael in annoying and insulting Toby. But his awkward persona is in its way to establish a friendship with michael. He is also very professional and always step up against michael's wrongdoings and never tries to "bribes" him with ignoring his bad actions to gain Michael's friendship. All of other close people to Michael (Dwight, Jim, Pam, Holly) at some point in the series hated him, stabed him in the back, pandered for him or hurt his feelings, but not Toby. I think Toby is not a hated character at all. I only pitty him because of his awkwardness and boring personality, and I think Michael lost a potential true friend by hating Toby and not giving him a chance.
I dunno. I always felt like Roy wasn't a terrible guy, he just took Pam for granted and never closed the deal. He loved Pam in his way ... he just wasn't very good at it.
I always thought Robert California was one of the funniest things the show ever did, the way he threw everyone else off by being so intense and melodramatic was a nice change
This is a hot take but I really like Robert California. Season 8 wasn’t great and obviously Michael would’ve have been better but I think he was a good character and usually pretty funny.
Now, I don't really love this character, but as you rewatch the office a couple of times and the whole "this is the main character, so they are always right" feeling wears off, Charles dislike for Jim really starts making sense. From the bad first impression, to Jim fumbling on his explanation of what he does as the office's #2, to him wasting an entire day with the whole rundown thing instead of just asking about it. Now, I'm not saying that Jim is a dislikeable character, but, Charles' attitude towards him doesn't feel forced or irrational either.
Haha totally! Trying to blame Dwight for why he's wearing a tuxedo at work. That was cringe level midnight lmao. But Charles is still totally petty when he says "must be nice to get a rest from your rest" at the picnic. Lmao.
Charles was good villain but they introduced him at wrong time. They pushed how Scranton was only profitable branch, and Michael was a genius and everyone wanted to know his secret, at same time hired a guy who tries to change everything about their work. It just didn't make much sense, why wouldn't he focus other branches if they are doing much worse
Pam truly loved Michael. She ran to the airport to say a final goobye to him. How can you hate her? If Jim is in love with her, there is reason. She is sweet, kind and have a good sense of humour.
Finally someone who agrees. I've never understood the hate. I thought he really done a fantastic job, and had some of the best lines of the whole series. And I thought he really was as fair as anyone ever was in a position of power in the show, he didn't have many biases like alot of people did in that role.
Erin. I found her hot cold bs with Andy to be inorganic and forced. That aside, her irrational behavior when she find about Andy was engaged to Angela is just ridiculous. She sabotaged that relationship by freaking out over a non issue. And as cringe as Gabe was, she did him wrong by humiliating him at the dundies. Might be an unpopular opinion but I hated Erin.
It kind of is 1. When the relationship with Erin is all of one episode long 2. He was cheated on and made to look like a total fool, so not something he’s probably aching to tell someone he just started dating regardless of work status. 3. Unless I missed a major plot point (I am conceding that I haven’t seen every single episode with every single plot), Andy didn’t go out of his way to hide, lie conceal or be deceptive to Erin about this, but hadn’t told his brand new girlfriend yet. Erin freaked the heck out, overreacted and torpedoed their first relationship, plain and simple.
@@TheDMB411987 she overreacted but i still wouldn't consider it a non-issue. even if it was embarrassing, i think she had the right to know that her boyfriend's ex-fiance worked in the same office.
I gotta defend Pam, Andy, and California. They're all great characters in my opinion. But I will say, season 9 Andy sucks. But that goes for the entire season.
@@kanizsohana4112 The awkwardness from him unapologetically telling truths people are uncomfortable with was fantastic. He sort of reminds me of Gilbert Dauterive in his pool party episode. I really think he is a great character
Agreed. I would also add Charles Minor to the list. Guy just wanted to run the branch efficiently and put an end to the constant nonsense. There are some areas where he could've showed more compassion or understanding, but there were far more instances where he took a hard stance where it was needed.
Let me add a little something to my defense of California. I think his embrace of these uncomfortable truths make him rub off as a bitter and cruel person. In contrast to that the fantasy land Michael lives in make him rub off as a childish and foolish person. Maybe they both in fact DO manifest these traits in their nature as well as their demeanor, but there is still plenty of complexity beyond that. Robert is in a way the antithesis of Michael.
She was so unlikable in season 8 that I felt like those likable traits in season 9 were forced. It felt like nellie was a completely different character
Honestly I think people don’t like Brian because he “tried to split up Jim and Pam”, but I think he was a good friend to Pam when Jim wasn’t there for her. No marriages are perfect, and Jim and Pam’s was strong enough to make it through. I AM NOT saying Brian should have got with Pam WHATSOEVER!! I’m just saying it’s not really fair to hate him just because he had a crush on Pam. Edit: Also the part when Brian is fighting off Frank it was funny bc they look like they’re hugging
We don't hate him for his crush on Pam, we hate him for intentionally subverting their relationship. It is similar with Pam and Jim vs Roy except that Jim was a good husband and Brian was way to pushy.
@@rapidprimus He didn't really (try to) subvert anything. They were already fighting before he's introduced, and the issue they develop because of him is due to Pam not telling Jim about her crying at her desk.
I don’t hate Brian so much as I hate the role he played. It just came out of nowhere at a very trying time in their marriage and added another struggle.
I am surprised nobody hates Holly Flax. She dumps Michael to avoid a long distance relationship and then dates that guy AJ long distance. What the heck?
She knew it was only temporary transfer to Scranton, because Toby was returning after strangler case, so it was fine having long distance for couple months, first time with Michael she thought she'd stay in Nashua for rest of her career so no real way to continue.
It's insane that Pam is considered the most hated character, especially of the main characters. She's great. Sure, season 9 Pam was a little annoying (as was season 9 Jim during the Philly arc), but come on. Pam's nowhere near the worst character. The worst main character is a two-fer. It's Ryan Howard and Kelly Kapoor. They could be eliminated from the show and it would be better
I think he knew but just didn't care. He was constantly dropping uncomfortable truths that people don't want to hear. It was fantastically awkward and some of the best writing on The Office in my opinion. I think his embrace of these uncomfortable truths make him rub off as a bitter and cruel person. In contrast to that the fantasy land Michael lives in make him rub off as a childish and foolish person. Maybe they both in fact DO manifest these traits in their nature as well as their demeanor, but there is still plenty of complexity beyond that. Robert is in a way the antithesis of Michael.
@@daverichards9141 I really think they should've kept it going for awhile. Give the dynamics time to grow on people. I initially shared your opinion, but every time I watch those episodes again I like California more and more.
I loved Nellie, mostly an awful person at first but at the point she became manager she got better, I loved her brief friendship with Pam towards the end too
I’m sorry, normally I’d take a passive approach and say you’re entitled to your own opinion, and I’m normally a laid back, love everyone kind of person, but I hate Nellie so much all the way through to the end of the show because of how she started off. If I knew her in real life I might just beat the shit out of her
@@noahsduck4109 I don't know what to tell you. Why did you feel the need to reply to tell me you hate her it's not like I'm going to feel moved by your hatred and change my mind? I'm not interested in hearing how much you don't like her cause she's a character that I enjoy
@@noahsduck4109 i’m pretty sure if we knew most office characters in real life we’d hate them. they’re characters not real people put in a style of show that tries to convince you they are real people which is part of the comedy of it. i think that nellie had some really funny moments and i’m def a nellie defender tho i do think that if she was never kept on as a character, the show wouldn’t feel different. but the fact you wouldn’t like her as a person isn’t fair criticism for a show like the office
@@indigotears I wasn’t trying to argue (which I realize that by commenting like I did that doesn’t make sense.) I also wasn’t expecting to change your mind, and you’re right she has some funny moments. Personally though I just got through the episode where she took over as manger and I, as Andy would say, “misdirected my anger lol
People have mentioned hunter but Hunters a victim statutory rape ... even in a court of law if he said “yes” and wanted it it would count as rape bc he was underaged... I think we should have sympathy for him.
Worst sitcom character 100%, just finished my second viewing of the series and every time she's on screen with her shirty comments and bullshit sensibility and overall aura. I want to stab her. Worst character. Worse than season 9 Andy. I wish she was killed off, fuck I hate Phyllis. She's worse than Ross from Friends and I fucking despise Ross.
@@alZiiHardstylez Absolute hot garbage of a personality, my litmus test? of all the characters in the show, I would be sad the least if they killed her off.
Angela is the worst to me. So mean-spirited and all the cheating is irredeemable. Stanley cheating on his wife ruined his character for me too. Bummer cuz Stanley was my favorite until I caught that episode.
I don't have to change your mind bc you're right. I'd mention Andy too but it's like he has different personality modes and isn't always consistent. Mild Andy is best Andy.
I never have been exposed to the online community but I always liked pam for whatever reason. I think it’s because she genuinely seems like a good person with a good heart.
I think the moniker, Mini-Jim should've been assigned to Clark, not Pete. He was more clever and thinking up pranks and schemes, et cetera. Even Dwight said he looked like a Schrute, thinks like a Halpert, and acts like a Beesly> Not sure what "acts like a Beesly means, but oh well.
Gabe should've been a mention because it he seems like Toby but instead of just Michael having a problem with him the whole office does. There's a lot of parallels between Toby and Gabe once you look at it.
Who hates Pam? She's one of the best and most relatable characters in the show and one of the main four. Kinda seems misogynistic to hate Pam for the reasons listed and not someone like Dwight.
I’m confused how it is justifiable criticism to be mad at Pam for kissing jim while she was engaged to Roy but Angela isn’t even on this list
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It’s because Angela was presented as a scummy character throughout the majority of the series until near the end when she got humbled. So her doing something terrible doesn’t necessarily make people hate her since we know she’s mainly a caricature of that super rude and obnoxious hypocrite of the cast. Pam is presented as one of the “good guys” of the cast. Someone who’s meant to stand for “good” on the moral spectrums presented by the show. So when Pam does something bad, it hits much harder since that’s not what’s expected from her character.
Cause the show tried so much to make her and jim the "good people" so their bad behaviour never had backlash or noticed, so that make her annoying for some viewers, and i personally hate the "vanilla" vibe they had too
That’s because Pam was the office mattress.
@@raggaduxjones she dated the same amount of office characters as angela did...
I'm surprised Ryan isn't on here. After all he did start the fire.
It's video about hated characters not hated character choices
@@Zztp0p it was a joke...
That boy lost his mind. If only someone would help him find it.
@@loudgoat5241and jesus definitely wont be able to help with that
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I think we should talk about Angela. Cheating while engaged, bullying especially to Phyllis and Kevin, hiring an assasin (for kneecapping at least) and so on.
cheating while engaged and then chheating while married and then lying to husband and to the father as well
@@bagyinszkinandor7472 but she got what she deserved. She was utterly humiliated. Dwight saved her.
Don't forget to throw homophobia in there as well
Rejecting Oscar too
Homophobia as well
The fact that Pam is hated for things that other characters aren’t even questioned for shows that Pam is the realest. The other characters mistakes are made into jokes and laughed off because of their personality. However pams are often written into the story and often developed into arcs because her character does make real mistakes and they do properly effect her, like any other human.
I agree although I think the issue is that the others don't pretend to be anything they're not. Angela and Dwight are always rude and weird. That's authentic. Pam (and Jim) think they're the only sane ones around while they also bully, lie, act arrogant and generally misbehave. I had the impression they were hypocrites judging others from a high horse of self-righteousness. To me the most authentic person is Dwight.
@@dr.florence what are you smoking
It’s because with every other character, it is acknowledged every time they do something wrong. The show shines a negative light on it. The show never does that with Jim or Pam. They are always painted as the good guys, no matter what they do. Even when they do the EXACT same bad thing that another character did (who was made to look bad for it), it tries to nudge you into siding with Jim/Pam. If the show made them look wrong when they did things that were wrong like they do for everyone else and held everyone to the same standard... they wouldn’t be hated on the way that they are. The only time Pam was ever painted to be wrong... was the time she ruined Jim’s prank, which isn’t even bad. Everyone does bad things. But the show likes to pretend that some characters do no wrong.
@@showmeyourteeth27Your ability to interpret the show is obviously dog shit. "The show wants you to like them, so I don't." Thanks for your hipster ass opinion. Is this a "Pam cheated too" argument? Angela FUCKED Dwight while engaged to Andy, and fucked Andy while telling Dwight she wasn't. Pam kissed a dude, even if you ignore the years of her boyfriend refusing to commit and being a total piece of shit, kissing one person isn't the same as repeatedly having cheating sex. Jim also isn't "shown to be the good guy" the show literally just plays out events, you can fucking react to it however you want. Jim is a level headed person who is cool in some ways, and a jerk in others, and the show doesn't hide that fact because if it did none of us would fucking be aware of his negetive qualities.
You people just want to dislike popular characters. There are people like you about every dc character, medium, or topic in popular culture, you're easy to spot because your arguments are non sequiturs.
@@showmeyourteeth27Pam tried to ruin Jim's career for selfish reasons, it's one of the worst things any character does in the entire show.
Surprised Gabe wasnt on here, idk he just really got on my nerves... Skeleton Man💀
I know, fuck that guy
Especially the creepy video he makes for Erin's party... fucking skeleton man
He’s actually the bird man
nellies one good moment was the skeleton man insult
Caption contest was a low
Personally I find Phyllis insufferable at times. Most of the time she's not really on camera and when she is, it's pretty ok. But there are instances where Phyllis' attidude is through the roof and she's the sassiest and most annoying person in the building.
I hate her in the episode where the salesmen get those new Leeds. All of the Sales staff are annoying but Phyllis is just so cocky and annoying.
OMG FINALLY SOME WHO THINKS THE SAME AS MEEE
@@diarmuid1 IKR and she says that rude thing to Michael and the does not understand why he does not give him the leads
I thought Phyllis was gonna be #1
I HATE PHYLLIS
To me, Gabe deserves a place on this list.
I agree with you
Gabe at times was my favourite tbh
@@jenm1 mine is jim
Yea
Whenever gabe appeared on my tv, my sister would just boo him
Toby being so hated and bullied by Micheal just broke my heart.. :( and no one helped him.
Yep, I’m with you on this. Toby’s just a quiet, middle of the road guy who wants to do his job right, and sometimes that’s perfectly ok.
The actor of Toby is a writer for the show, so he was the one constantly writing his own character to be treated like that lmao
@@krypticunlimited6925 and Ryan haha
Thats the only part of the office that i don’t like and i find cruel
i mean i would have agreed but the guy was a big creep when it came to Pam
If season 9 didn’t happen, Andy would have been a beloved character.
I wish there was a way to know you're in the good ol' days before you've actually left them
Absolutely, it did not happen
Phyllis is the worst character.
Andy was more cool in season 9
@@trds9 But more mean.
Gabe and Ryan need to be on this list.
What?? I loved Gabe he was so awkward and adorable he was funny. But I agree with Ryan
Yeaaaah I can't deal with Ryan
Gabe yes Ryan meh
I can live with Ryan not being on the list, but Gabe, he was so annoying, you have no idea how many times I wanted him to leave or throw a chair at him...
ryan is probably my favorite character. hes meant to be a douchebag thats why its funny. gabe is ok, hes kinda annoying
i can see how pam gets hate, but she is still one of my favorite characters.
Oh and gabe should be on the list
I agree. I really do not understand why she is hated so much. And Gabe's an a-hole
Yeah Pam can be kind of a brat. But I love her and Jenna is really that dorky.
@@mozzarellakrunccy5655 I don’t see how Pam has been a brat? Maybe I just haven’t been paying attention, but I think she’s just more socially awkward is afraid of big changes.
I personally don’t see her as a brat or anything like it, but that’s just my opinion I guess :/
@@nestlyyyy Well she's not that bad that's why it's hard to see sometimes. But like her whole war with Ryan even though Ryan is the worst and like when Dwight is listening to Eybody Hurts and she and Jim comfort him but like in a mocking way, and the whole thing with The Committee to Plan Parties, and when she has ttalking head about raising her hand for Jim's idea where she says "I forgot I have to support him." She's no where near the bratty levels of like Kelley, but when she does stuff like that it's like her version of Jim's pranks. It's her coping mechanism and I think it's part of her charm.
@@mozzarellakrunccy5655 she didn’t do anything wrong with the committee to plan party’s, they did that cause Angela was being a bitch
Pam was one of the only characters who cared about others feelings and tried to help them feel better when they were sad. If you analyse every character in the office as detailed as people are analysing pams, everyone else is much worse and heartless. Also surprised that Angela or ryan are not on the list.
I appreciate your assessment of Pam as a caring (if Pollyanna) soul, but there are those whose own self-awareness makes them “irritated” by those seeking better angels. Just sayin.
Oh, and yea, Angela was definitely a self-righteous b*tch. Villainous liar, at several points...
She is up until the point it inconveniences her then quite the opposite; ex. Pam's reaction to Michael and her mom dating.
@@Anarchristian_Beanz yeah... Imagine being upset that your immature boss who's definitely gonna hurt your mom is dating her.
@@stolenart9290 and then being completely vindicated after you accept that said immature boss is dating your mom and then he breaks up with her on her birthday with you there cuz she's too old. Pam had every reason and right to not want Michael to date her mom.
How is Ryan not on this list
people don't really get annoyed by ryan and jan. both those character really help to flush out other character and develop characters. well as Pete is boderline the worst character arc i've seen on tv
Ryan plays a good role in the show and is cringey but funny
I know right?!
Ryan’s the best
Fr
Charles kicks the ball 100 mph at Jim's face from point blank range and proceeds to ask him why he ducked. That is my most hated moment of the entire show.
Oh my gosh right?? I played soccer (not professionally lol) as a goalie and there's no way I would have let a ball hit me in the face at that speed.
as far as im certain, he would have been more hurt then whoever actually got hit (i cant remember at all).
YES THANK YOU!!! I had that exact thought! The man launched the ball like a fucking rocket straight at someone's face during a parking lot kickabout lmao.
It was funny tho
Right!! He had no business kicking the ball so hard in the parking lot. What was his plan? Send Jim to the hospital??
#1 is whoever broke the elevator so Kevin had to walk up all those stairs with that heavy pot of chili.
He made it so far bros....
Whoever or whomever? Now i can't sleep man
@@TheLauti1999 Whomever is a made up word used to trick students.
And what about those construction guys who took the parking places so he had to walk so far?
Lol
It was probably Kevin tbh
Brian's very first reveal was a very touching meta-moment.
They should have never shown or mentioned him after that one scene.
I agree. I think they broke through an unnecessary wall by going down that path. We never did learn when Jim and Pam became friends with Brian and his wife, how long, etc. Never knew why they got divorced (other than to create another potential love triangle for Pam). Never fully explored if Brian had interest in Pam. The fight she had with Brian about the hot mic's didn't really make sense. It was just a lot of drifting fluff.
@@jennifermorrison4363
True.
Sad, because that one little moment works so well.
It took me a few seconds to realize the balls d’angelo were juggling weren’t in the actual episode 😂
Didn’t know I’d see you here, keep it up with all the great music bro 👊
who made this beat?
Same till he went to Phyllis
What? You didn’t know he didn’t juggle real balls?
I actually quite enjoy Andy, I think he was hated only during his time antagonizing Dwight and when he went on the boat trip.
Andy is dead set top 5 best characters for me
I like him also!
Same.
he is my least favorite character always
@@doogty5104 He was only bad at the beginning and when he came back from the boat trip
Andy was fine after anger management, then his character got screwed over in season 9
I think Angela deserves to be on this list. She is always picky, in a bad mood, making others feel bad, had an affair, made Andy and Dwight duel over her.
She’s the real office mattress and a giant hypocrite
Not to mention her religious beliefs.
Andy was a phenomenal character until season 9. The writers really didn’t know how to make the show without Michael.
LOL no he wasn’t. He was awful. He was tolerable his first 2 seasons, then intolerable after that.
I agree with you. I don't like his first season, but after that, he was fine. And then, in the final season, he was awful again. I understand that they needed to give him an excuse to leave, but he didn't have to be so annoying and rude. But okay hahs
Lmao I wish I felt like this. I’ve hated Andy since he was introduced to the show.
i loved andy. until they made him an insufferable douche.
@@b4Sed1593 ? I think he got better as the show went on
I really don’t understand why they screwed over Andy so bad in season 9. His character developed so much over the show, and they completely threw all of that away in the last season. He was finally with the woman he loved, but then he left her to go on a random boat trip. Andy’s character really went downhill from there. He became manipulative, controlling, and just stupid. I think that it was very unnecessary. And it kinda seemed like the writers were out of ideas, so they just made Andy a douche.
Yea, it’s the worst part of the show for me. Especially since they did that right after Season 8 which was Andy’s season!
mamaaaaaaa just killed a man
I could be wrong but i think the writers were pissed at andy for going out to do a movie
@@Pshady23 well he left for the movie so they came up with that stupid reason for Andy to leave for a while instead of just giving him a vacation or something
@@axelgonzalez1248
The boat trip with his brother was when he made the Hangover movie. So, after he came back, he was seen as a bigger douche than before. Season 8, he probably wanted out, plus the show was close to running its course at this point.
Can we all agree that Creed is the best character of the office
Hes so ridiculous its funny 😆
Yes, I believe so.
Creed should have had a spin off. It would have been a hit.
No. It's Mose.
Naw, it's Kevin
I think Pam was a positive character, the fact that she cared about everyone in the office. She was always the one that needed to cheer up micheal when everyone turned their back on him. Also she did a good job being the office administrator.
she didn’t care about anyone in the office besides jim and sometimes michael when it benefited her
Pam is a horrible, horrible wife. She never seems to evolve nor being comfortable with anything resembling chance. She's such a simple, boring and plain women. Jim gave up his dream to be with her. Jim gave up being manager SEVERAL Times for her. A dream that could've set their family up for years. She never realized that Jim made sacrifices too and actually doubting Jim's loyalty. I Hate her, God I hate her
@@isaacwilhoit619 was she supposed to be some kind of nanny for others or what? that's a stupid argument
@@justynajajko1882 when did i say she was supposed to be a nanny, i was saying she’s selfish and doesn’t care for anyone in the office besides jim and sometimes michael
@@isaacwilhoit619 that argument can go for a majority of the characters
not gonna get into it, but Pam had every right to act the way she did during the Philly arc bc let's not forget, Jim was lying to her and hiding that he had invested in the company for several episodes. she expressed how she felt about investing, and instead of having a conversation with her about it, he went behind her back. they're _married_ it's her money and her life too.
Also she was left raising their kids that at some points it seemed like he straight up didnt care about like the recital, and he had a history of doing things behind her back like buying the parents house
I hated Jim at that time, leaving his wife with 2 babies because he had a dream. How hard it must be to be an almost single mother of two and a working mother. I'd be a total zombie.
@@dickottel it's not like he did it out of pure self enjoyment. Starting his own company so that he can provide more for his family + doing what he likes. Of course it's not perfect because Pam had to deal with 2 kids, but like no one is in the right or the wrong here.
Guys come on
Lets not forget
Ryan started the fire
@@Darceyab he also treated her like shit cause she couldn't record the recital
I nominate Hunter for this list. That song haunts my dreams.
🎶you took me by the hand, and maaade me a man. That one night (one night) you made everything alriiiiiight. So wrong, so write, all night, all right, aw yeah.🎶
I didnt even have to search for this song, its burned into my brain
@@Willowtree9530 SAME
Oh yeah that one night one night you made everything al riiight. The entire scene and song is in my head forever as well
I thought this was just me it’s engrained into my brain too lmao
YOU TOOK ME BY THE HANDDD MADEEE ME A MAAAaAaaaaAaan
gabe was actually so weird and annoying he should be on here
the fact that erin only accepted because of the power dynamic between the two, the fact that erin is a receptionist and gabe was the boss is just disgusting.
SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN
He was the funniest part of season 9.
@koneko THATS WHAT MADE HIM FUNNY.
Gabe dressed as Lady Gaga made me love him.
2 things- Pam is an absolute ANGEL!!! Especially in comparison to EVERY other character. Where the hell is Ryan on this list??!!
The difference is Pam is one of the protagonists and is treated as a good person whereas characters like Angela and Ryan are treated as villians. Heroes are just held up to much more scrutiny, not daint I agree with this but thats the way she goes.
@@michaelbarker6732 How are they "treated" as villains? They are villains becsuse of what they do and say.
I felt the same way as you
Until he had the audacity to flirt with my nellie
@@michaelbarker6732 if you treat any "main cast" character as a villain, then maybe you didn't understand the show at all, the whole point is that they are real people with flaws
@@rosiii9mmmm no. Angela is 100% a villian up until later in the show, and especially so in seasons 2-4. Jan is kindof a villian, Roy is definitely a villian, Ryan becomes a villian, and Michael even starts out as a villian that is not meant to have redeeming qualities in the first season. Jim and Pam are consistently used as the straight men in joke set ups and that is kindof what I am saying when I say the show doesn’t really intend for them to be bad people the way it does with Angela. Some things they do ARE presented as being wrong, like later when Jim is putting his new company over his family, but most of the stuff they do is clearly not meant to be perceived as bad. That’s why when they do things that aren’t actually great, like Jim just refusing to call Andy Drew, it comes off as more jarring because the show is not, in that moment, trying to say “hey look Jim is being a dick.”
The fact that Ryan isn't anywhere on this list upsets me
I was thinking that, maybe i didn't hate him in some episodes but never liked him, he was literally unlikeable.
It's hilarious that the real actor actually helped writing his character
Yea they ded should have mentioned ryan he is basically the definition of douchbag. Fuckboy works too lol
I love Ryan. He’s written so interestingly.
Ryan is more someone that u love to hate
Gabe is generally pretty hated (despite I like him). Also Roy is designed to be a villan, and he is undoubteldy the most hated of the firsts season, i also hate the fact that he had one of the most incredible (and undeserved) happy ending. California was amazing but the writers didn't have specific plans for him and eventually they inexplicably turned him into a sexual maniac, completely disinterested in his job. Andy was probably my favorite character after Michel but they destroy him in the last season, without any reason.
They destroyed Andy because they were angry at Ed Helms
Yeah. This is pretty much exactly my thoughts
Except. I just never liked Gabe
@@neal3914 I don't know honestly
. Also Carrell left the show (forever) but the writers gave him a perfect happy ending. I think they tried to change Andy's character to make him funnier and similar to Michael (and they miserably failed, destroying his path during the preavious seasons) Also in the latest episodes of the 8 season and in the first few episodes of season 9 he was becoming pretty annoying.
@@andreas6151 they were mad a Ed Helms because he was acting on another show and they didn't know about it
I didn’t mind Pete and Clark, they just didn’t do enough to like or hate
I fucking hate Pete holy shit. He’s so annoying
@@Unknown-qv7le wow screw you, Plop all the way baby
Clark is a creep
Tbh I didn’t like Clark or Pete, didn’t like that they added more characters.
@@Hi-uv7nn yes, but not anywhere near Robert California
I love that people think Pam actively (or even passively) tries to break up Jim and Karen. She literally convinced Jim to stop being an idiot and let Karen move in down the street. In being more honest with herself, she says in the last episode of season 3 that she and Jim never got their timing right, accepting that there’s nothing left to happen between them, until Jim comes in and asks her on a date.
YES!!! And people forget that Jim did the same thung
Yea? And she also publicly confessed her feelings for Jim after he had a gf in front of her
If you hate Pam that’s a red flag for me and we simply can’t be friends.
@Avery R. Thanks, I get that on almost every single one of my UA-cam comments lol. The PJ fandom is strong on UA-cam.
Pam is a horrible character. She is bitchy, has a horrible attitude and always complains about her baby weight. She also made Jim quit his dream career in Phili just because she is a selfish bitch.
@@user-iv2qo1fz4j I’m a girl. Also I love how you liked your own comment lmao.
Imagine being such a loser you can’t be friends with someone over them not liking a character in the office. That’s a massive red flag
@@user-iv2qo1fz4j thanks
“Honourable mention”, there’s nothing remotely honourable about Toby.
I have Frame Toby coming up soon. Should be awesome.
@@dovewing3986 Lmao, I think I had a different username when I wrote that.
@@dovewing3986 but, to answer your question, yes, I’m actually Michael. I logged into Toby's computer and I’m using his account.
@Dominated YT Jump to the right and shake a hand, Jump to the left and you shake that hand, Meet new friends, Tie some yarn, that's how ya' do the scarn.
@Dominated YT that’s what I said 😂 like damn
I still don't get how pam is hated so much... she's one of the best characters in my opinion.. she's kind and helpful to everyone .. plus no one is perfect...
Pobodys nerfect
@@memoiscray7776 I was just gonna say..
My only problem with the character is she didn’t support Jim on athleap at all until the end of series
I see Pam Haters as the same ones that will angrily argue to the death that 'Die Hard' is a Christmas movie. 😄
And Ryan isn't on this list? My, how the turntables...
Agree! I also think she became really funny from about season 3 onward
Hate or love Nellie, Catherine Tate did the best anyone could do with the material she was given. Personally I find her performance as Nellie hilarious, despite being annoyed by Nellie’s actions.
Same hereeee
Pam’s not horrible she’s human. I love Pam!
I really don't understand the Pam hate. She's consistently the kindest person on the show.
Yeah ikr some people are just as*holes lol
I can speak for myself and not others, I believe she is holding jim back.
Also I like pam but sometimes she had some kinda awkward, or cringy, moments.
She just constantly holds back herself and the people around her due to her insecurities. For example, when she left Roy, he was noticeably happy and had his own business. Before, he was stuck in a job he hated solely because Pam wanted to have him there. Jim wanted to start his own business and Pam held him back because she didn’t want to deal with change. She isn’t interesting and she doesn’t have a defining personality that really makes her seem interesting. I mean compare Pam to Dwight, Jim, or Michael and the huge difference is the personality and jokes. In my opinion, that’s why she’s hated.
@@Shockingbeard From what? I see this all the time, what is she holding him back from?
Promotions at work? Jim is promoted several times at DM. When Wallace comes in to talk about making him a manager, Pam is sitting right there, cheering him on.
Working in Philly? Jim actually works in Philly and leaves of his own volition.
Working at corporate? Jim turned that down on his own.
Working in Maryland? All Jim.
Jim wants a family. Pam provides him with a family.
What exactly is he being held back from? The main knock on Jim is that he doesn't care about his work. Is that something Pam is making him do? Literally every decision Jim makes is on his own, without her input. Buying a house, moving to Stamford, the Niagara Falls plan B at the wedding, working in Philly; all Jim Halpert. She factors into them, but he makes them on his own.
Number one for me would definitely be Phyllis. She was sweet at times, but she stole Pams wedding, let guys flirt with her so Bob could beat them up, had a hit and run with Bob that potentially left the victim dead and so many uncalled for comments like the thing that Pam can't assign clients to whoever she is sleeping with that week. Yikes.
Oh for sure!! I think she gets away with it because most of the time she is a little more forgettable. But she is a horrible person. Oh also her and Bob ran someone over on their honeymoon and just left him there.
She also can be shady sometimes.
Phyllis definitely got worse when she married Bob. She was always looking for that power and money and Bob had both so she could indulge in that lifestyle.
I 100% agree because at least Angelia was just straight up a B***h; you knew what you were getting. With Phyllis, she was just one sneaky B***h.
Phyllis is definitely one of those bitchy busy-bodies who have been there way too long. Every office has them
I absolutely adore Robert California. Right up there with Creed as my favourites. Also I’m very confused about the Pam hate I thought she was a great character.
I liked Nelly...😕
After hating her for a wee bit...😏
Same for Andy
Lulu
Have you ever killed a woman?
@@jenm1 jen jen jen
@@jenm1🙂 Take a man's job, but leave him his balls. Margaret Thatcher said that... Probably
I really enjoyed Robert California. I can respect he’s not for everyone, but he was exactly my taste of humor.
He's good because I hate him so much, he's so dumb it's hilarious
*Im the fucking lizard king.*
he's hilarious
agreed
@@GregoryJohnson-l1g that’s why I like him
The F*ing Lizard King was one of my favorite characters on the show.
Same here man, I think the writers did a great job (and must have loved writing for him) I'd have loved to see more of him, whatever his actual name is.
@@ZeufAabe Robert 'Bob' Kazamakis. It's revealed in his final episode where David Wallace returns to buy Dunder Mifflin
@@KrazyJP4 Yeah, I picked up on that too and I loved it, but it could be another cool alias though.
yes he’s so good
SAME
I really feel so sorry for Andy Bernad he's was my favourite character after anger management. But the writers literally butchered his character. He was left with nothing by the end.
I mean not taking your girlfriend to the ship trip and missing work for 3 months is not exactly a sign of a likable character
I hated the replacement guy Who made Aaron left Andy right when he started talking to Aaron and I already hated him from experience having trust issues
@@RudiSkucek-wq4cc Erin*
He always sucked
That warehouse guy..... I’m so glad he didn’t last even an episode. I felt bad Pam had to suffer through such a brainless bully who ruined her mural in an inappropriate way.
To me that guy looks and acts like Roy 2.0 just not dating Pam this time.
@@Dan55888 thats what i thought too
When you started to say the number one, I said, “Ryan!”
Pam? Pam?! PAM?!!
I hate people who hate Pam.
I don’t hate pam but I don’t really find her funny she is one of the most normal people on the show other than Jim
I agree with the last line 😌🤣
oh.. anyways, RYAN STARTED THE FIREEE!
Pam is the absolute worst
@@kylesun1827 nope
I feel like, of all the choices made during season 9, Clark is one of the few wins. It's a shame he had to leave for a chunk of episodes for the actor to film a movie because he had really good chemistry with Dwight. There is, though, the one episode where he gets super creepy with Erin about the whole TV hosting job which aged like milk. But aside from that, he was a great foil to the characters he was paired with. The actor found the right balance between him being a bit of a smartass but also having heart, and him trying to fit in with Dwight was always the best part of his episodes.
Plop, on the other hand, was really boring and didn't have much chemistry with anyone. He was basically there just so they could get yet another romance going and ruin Andy's relationship with Erin.
how did it age like milk?
I never knew people hated Pam so much. My favorite characters are 1. Dwight 2. Kevin and 3. Pam I’m sorry but Pam is very relatable to me even more than Jim and I enjoy watching her make tough choices and grow as a person. Also her relationship with Dwight and other people in the office is very nice. She is a kind person who cares about people but she also has enough self-respect to not have people walk all over her. Feel free to argue but Beasley doesn’t seem that bad to me
ROFTLAMO!
Don't worry, the all-encompassing hatred will come with time and more exposure to the community
I was shocked to find her at the top of the list too. Guess I'm out of the loop
I love Pam too! For all the same reasons you've said, she's not perfect but owns it and in the end she overcomes a lot (as well as standing up for herself, when she sells the house and is finally happy with leaving Scranton)
I didn't like Jenna's other show that came a few years after The Office.
I kinda hate Stanley. Lazy, rude, disrespectful, sleazy, unfaithful and doesn’t care for his coworkers. There’s nothing good about the guy.
the scene where andy punches the wall and jim just hangs up the phone kills me every single time
What?!? I love Pam, she felt much more real than most of the other characters.
In the first seasons, I didnt really care for her, but after season four, she got a huge confident boost and that made me love her
I love Pam I think she was a pleasant and calming presents in the office
same
I thought she was a selfish woman with no motivation
@@lighting472 elaborate?
I don't hate Brian. I actually feel really bad for him. I see a guy who, over the course of 9 or 10 years, fell in love with one of the subjects of the documentary and was never able to pursue Pam (Due to his employment with the filming crew) and, effectively, had to watch Jim pursue those same feelings for the same girl and win her over, get married, and start a family. I think his breaking point was when he saw Jim start to squander the love he and Pam had created over the years.
Ed Helms breathed life into Andy’s character with his acting, singing and his talent of playing so many musical instruments. Andy’s character arc didn’t deserve the way the creators had to end it and worst part is that Erin and Andy didn’t happen. Instead plop and Erin happened. That was really sad and weird.
Honestly I think that Erin was bad for Andy. I think she should have ended up with just herself, especially because she was rebuilding a relationship w her parents at the end.
Yes thank you
I heard that Ed Helms was a pain to work with and the writers took it out on Andy lol.
@@katimillard5924Not entirely. I mean you could see the spark between them and I felt they actually connected well.
Yeah sure dude. That guy is NOT funny anywhere.
I simply can’t ever understand why anybody would hate Pam
Because they are sexist and can't handle realistic characters in television.
@@hermionegrangerwannabe9482 PERIODD
Because she acts like Jim doesn’t deserve her, then when he gets with someone, she gets mad at him for it.
@@voidzminer1017 That is so incorrect lol. It’s very obvious that you’re misogynistic. How did she act that way? Some examples please?
@@voidzminer1017 also as if Jim wasn’t mad at Pam for being with roy when he was with Karen. Please. The double standard
I need to see Andy’s parents on this list
YES!! The dad, anyway. He was just horrible.
hahaha omg yes!! forgot about them. total through and through villains.
I know I’m in the ‘Minority’ on this, but I actually like Charles Minor in the show. He’s the closest thing the show has to a villain and is the antithesis of Michael’s philosophy. And Idris Elba plays him perfectly!
Idris Elba is truly remarkable in the role. Shoulda got an Emmy for his portrayal. The reason the character was so unlikeable was his incredible acting! He got him so well.
Pam does lots of questionable things but so does everyone on the show do I don’t think that’s a reason to despise her. Personally I like Pam but it’s definitely subjective so I get why people do hate her.
The people that hate her don't understand anything about the office. The goal of the show is to display an "ordinary" paper company and these people are humans, they need to be relatable. And for them to be relatable, humans, they need flaws. I understand that Pam did some "shitty" things, but they are reasons justifying this, and hating her for that feels a bit extreme to me
I think that she is one of the most real characters
Pam is a top 3 character in my book
I think it’s also because she’s one of the main characters, and unlike Michael, she usually knows what she’s doing. Having moments where she does questionable stuff can probably throw people off a bit
That being said though, I think those moments are important in making her character more human
You know, I bet the people that hate Pam probably hate her for the same reasons they might not like themselves. Because Pam is the most ordinary character in my opinion. Which is good for the show. She has a really huge character arc. I think she's the one that does the most growing in the show
I thought the number one hated character would be Angela
I thought she was going to be on the list, but Ryan should’ve been #1.
@@mattslupek7988 Ryan and Kelly. Can't stand them, and I feel their scene in the last episode was completely unnecessary.
I thought u are the most HATED human being in the WORLD
@@venkatasuneel8257 grammar lol
CALL ME CRAZY BUT I KINDA LIKED ANGELA
They absolutely destroyed Andy in s9. Loved him when they built him
I think Toby is the only character in the series which is a true friend to michael. He geniunly likes michael, wants to befriend him even after all of blatant attempts of michael in annoying and insulting Toby. But his awkward persona is in its way to establish a friendship with michael. He is also very professional and always step up against michael's wrongdoings and never tries to "bribes" him with ignoring his bad actions to gain Michael's friendship. All of other close people to Michael (Dwight, Jim, Pam, Holly) at some point in the series hated him, stabed him in the back, pandered for him or hurt his feelings, but not Toby. I think Toby is not a hated character at all. I only pitty him because of his awkwardness and boring personality, and I think Michael lost a potential true friend by hating Toby and not giving him a chance.
Where’s Roy?
He Should Definitely Be In The Villains Part
I dunno. I always felt like Roy wasn't a terrible guy, he just took Pam for granted and never closed the deal. He loved Pam in his way ... he just wasn't very good at it.
@@Tim_the_Enchanter True.
I Think I Just Put Him There Cause He Attacked Jim
@@tobymaeganleavendusky299 I mean he kinda had a reason he kissed his feyonce
@@lonewanderer8980 I’d consider that a reasonable reaction to what Jim did.
@@lonewanderer8980 his what now?
I absolutely disagree about Robert California. You have to admit he's a fascinating character even if you don't like him.
honestly saved that season for me. his character was so mesmerizing and always dominated the scenes he was in
Agreed. He was brilliant. And we got the perfect amount of him
Lmao i read it with robert's voice in my head
I'm scared of him and I hate him!
i was the 69th like on this comment. tee hee hee
Them adding Brian wasn't a plothole. Not including the camera crew in previous episodes was a plothole.
The only time I like Todd Packer is when he insisted Michael to say “That’s what she said” after Jim was setting him up.
I think Andy has some lovely times and some bad times during the show, sometimes we hate him but sometimes we loved him
I always thought Robert California was one of the funniest things the show ever did, the way he threw everyone else off by being so intense and melodramatic was a nice change
Yea he is awesome
blecccch
How people hate Pammmmm, she is sooooo cute
Ryan did things SO MUCH worst and i dont see this hate
to me hating Pam and liking Ryan/roy is just a huge red flag that someone is misogynistic
@iman jones Yes! Someone see's her as I do. Well said, 100% agree 👏👏👏
This is a hot take but I really like Robert California. Season 8 wasn’t great and obviously Michael would’ve have been better but I think he was a good character and usually pretty funny.
I couldn't agree more!
Same, I agree.
Personally I just find him annoying
Same, I thought his uncomfortableness was what made him so funny
The problem other people have with him is talking about innapropiate things sorta like Todd i don't really care but eh.
Now, I don't really love this character, but as you rewatch the office a couple of times and the whole "this is the main character, so they are always right" feeling wears off, Charles dislike for Jim really starts making sense. From the bad first impression, to Jim fumbling on his explanation of what he does as the office's #2, to him wasting an entire day with the whole rundown thing instead of just asking about it.
Now, I'm not saying that Jim is a dislikeable character, but, Charles' attitude towards him doesn't feel forced or irrational either.
Haha totally! Trying to blame Dwight for why he's wearing a tuxedo at work. That was cringe level midnight lmao. But Charles is still totally petty when he says "must be nice to get a rest from your rest" at the picnic. Lmao.
Charles was good villain but they introduced him at wrong time. They pushed how Scranton was only profitable branch, and Michael was a genius and everyone wanted to know his secret, at same time hired a guy who tries to change everything about their work. It just didn't make much sense, why wouldn't he focus other branches if they are doing much worse
Pam truly loved Michael. She ran to the airport to say a final goobye to him. How can you hate her? If Jim is in love with her, there is reason. She is sweet, kind and have a good sense of humour.
And genuinely care about people
Robert California was amazing, i loved how he made everyone uncomfortable in every scene he is in
Hats off to James Spader, he did a stellar job
He carried the first half of season 8
"I Am Never Uncomfortable". One of the great lines in TV history .
Finally someone who agrees. I've never understood the hate. I thought he really done a fantastic job, and had some of the best lines of the whole series. And I thought he really was as fair as anyone ever was in a position of power in the show, he didn't have many biases like alot of people did in that role.
What i don't like about Robert is that he replaced Joe and I wish she was in the show longer
Erin. I found her hot cold bs with Andy to be inorganic and forced. That aside, her irrational behavior when she find about Andy was engaged to Angela is just ridiculous. She sabotaged that relationship by freaking out over a non issue. And as cringe as Gabe was, she did him wrong by humiliating him at the dundies. Might be an unpopular opinion but I hated Erin.
Tbh you're right
i mean hiding the fact that you were engaged to your girlfriend's coworker when you all work in the same office isn't exactly a non-issue.
It kind of is 1. When the relationship with Erin is all of one episode long 2. He was cheated on and made to look like a total fool, so not something he’s probably aching to tell someone he just started dating regardless of work status. 3. Unless I missed a major plot point (I am conceding that I haven’t seen every single episode with every single plot), Andy didn’t go out of his way to hide, lie conceal or be deceptive to Erin about this, but hadn’t told his brand new girlfriend yet. Erin freaked the heck out, overreacted and torpedoed their first relationship, plain and simple.
Yessss!!! Erin has some very cringe moments. I don’t like her…
@@TheDMB411987 she overreacted but i still wouldn't consider it a non-issue. even if it was embarrassing, i think she had the right to know that her boyfriend's ex-fiance worked in the same office.
Jim was actually an office bully. No one brings that up. His pranks were cruel.
If you had to spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week with Dwight you'd probably wanna prank him too.
Dwight was a constant life threatening presence for the office plus very annoying (I love Dwight but he deserves the pranks)
I gotta defend Pam, Andy, and California. They're all great characters in my opinion. But I will say, season 9 Andy sucks. But that goes for the entire season.
California???Lol.Whenevr that guy talked i wanted to vomit
Last three episodes of season 9 was good
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The awkwardness from him unapologetically telling truths people are uncomfortable with was fantastic. He sort of reminds me of Gilbert Dauterive in his pool party episode. I really think he is a great character
Agreed. I would also add Charles Minor to the list. Guy just wanted to run the branch efficiently and put an end to the constant nonsense. There are some areas where he could've showed more compassion or understanding, but there were far more instances where he took a hard stance where it was needed.
Let me add a little something to my defense of California. I think his embrace of these uncomfortable truths make him rub off as a bitter and cruel person. In contrast to that the fantasy land Michael lives in make him rub off as a childish and foolish person. Maybe they both in fact DO manifest these traits in their nature as well as their demeanor, but there is still plenty of complexity beyond that. Robert is in a way the antithesis of Michael.
I personally kind of liked Nellie in S9. Her comforting Erin when she was crying on the bus was so sweet.
Same
She was so unlikable in season 8 that I felt like those likable traits in season 9 were forced. It felt like nellie was a completely different character
I hate Nellie more than anyone in TV history
She ain’t all bad
still doesn't make up for when she just stole the manager position imo
Honestly I think people don’t like Brian because he “tried to split up Jim and Pam”, but I think he was a good friend to Pam when Jim wasn’t there for her. No marriages are perfect, and Jim and Pam’s was strong enough to make it through. I AM NOT saying Brian should have got with Pam WHATSOEVER!! I’m just saying it’s not really fair to hate him just because he had a crush on Pam.
Edit: Also the part when Brian is fighting off Frank it was funny bc they look like they’re hugging
We don't hate him for his crush on Pam, we hate him for intentionally subverting their relationship. It is similar with Pam and Jim vs Roy except that Jim was a good husband and Brian was way to pushy.
@@rapidprimus That makes sense too!
@@rapidprimus He didn't really (try to) subvert anything. They were already fighting before he's introduced, and the issue they develop because of him is due to Pam not telling Jim about her crying at her desk.
I don’t hate Brian so much as I hate the role he played. It just came out of nowhere at a very trying time in their marriage and added another struggle.
well in the show, Pam doesn’t like that he recorded everyone without them knowing
I am surprised nobody hates Holly Flax. She dumps Michael to avoid a long distance relationship and then dates that guy AJ long distance. What the heck?
Michael talked about that double-standart well enough.
She knew it was only temporary transfer to Scranton, because Toby was returning after strangler case, so it was fine having long distance for couple months, first time with Michael she thought she'd stay in Nashua for rest of her career so no real way to continue.
Honestly so many people hate Andy I always loved him up until season 9 when he started being really annoying
I loved Robert California. His weird uncomfortable rants were low-key brilliant awkwardness lol
He was one of my favourite characters
It's insane that Pam is considered the most hated character, especially of the main characters. She's great. Sure, season 9 Pam was a little annoying (as was season 9 Jim during the Philly arc), but come on. Pam's nowhere near the worst character.
The worst main character is a two-fer. It's Ryan Howard and Kelly Kapoor. They could be eliminated from the show and it would be better
That's fucking bullshit
The whole philly drama and stuff was Jim’s fault not Pam’s
I actually quite liked Robert. He was so weird and uncomfortable but the fact that he couldn’t see that makes it funny to me
I think he knew but just didn't care. He was constantly dropping uncomfortable truths that people don't want to hear. It was fantastically awkward and some of the best writing on The Office in my opinion. I think his embrace of these uncomfortable truths make him rub off as a bitter and cruel person. In contrast to that the fantasy land Michael lives in make him rub off as a childish and foolish person. Maybe they both in fact DO manifest these traits in their nature as well as their demeanor, but there is still plenty of complexity beyond that. Robert is in a way the antithesis of Michael.
LMFAO no he KNEW. he just didnt care at all and i LOVED it.
Good character on the wrong show. He just didn't fit.
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I really think they should've kept it going for awhile. Give the dynamics time to grow on people. I initially shared your opinion, but every time I watch those episodes again I like California more and more.
Did somehow people forget about Gabe? He should definitely be on this list and #1 on the list in my opinion!
I loved Nellie, mostly an awful person at first but at the point she became manager she got better, I loved her brief friendship with Pam towards the end too
Thank you omg
I’m sorry, normally I’d take a passive approach and say you’re entitled to your own opinion, and I’m normally a laid back, love everyone kind of person, but I hate Nellie so much all the way through to the end of the show because of how she started off. If I knew her in real life I might just beat the shit out of her
@@noahsduck4109 I don't know what to tell you. Why did you feel the need to reply to tell me you hate her it's not like I'm going to feel moved by your hatred and change my mind? I'm not interested in hearing how much you don't like her cause she's a character that I enjoy
@@noahsduck4109 i’m pretty sure if we knew most office characters in real life we’d hate them. they’re characters not real people put in a style of show that tries to convince you they are real people which is part of the comedy of it. i think that nellie had some really funny moments and i’m def a nellie defender tho i do think that if she was never kept on as a character, the show wouldn’t feel different. but the fact you wouldn’t like her as a person isn’t fair criticism for a show like the office
@@indigotears I wasn’t trying to argue (which I realize that by commenting like I did that doesn’t make sense.) I also wasn’t expecting to change your mind, and you’re right she has some funny moments. Personally though I just got through the episode where she took over as manger and I, as Andy would say, “misdirected my anger lol
PAM IS THE BEST! She is the sweetest most heartwarming character.
Pams a bitch
no
Commie lol
@@saml7249 okay
@@fredricklemar4321 your profile pic explains your comment
People have mentioned hunter but Hunters a victim statutory rape ... even in a court of law if he said “yes” and wanted it it would count as rape bc he was underaged... I think we should have sympathy for him.
@@MassHystarix he was 17
Brooklyn 99 Fans! Whenever you see Darryl from the Office? do you see the Pontiac bandit or Is it just me?
rosa rosa rosa rosa
There is no Darryl he is the Pontiac bandit in disguise
I see Doug Judy 😅
It took a long time before I stopped seeing him as Doug Judy
I can only see Doug Judy
Rosa Rosa... It always rings in the same tone 😂😂😂
'No Toby was not the Scranton Strangler'
That is exactly what the Scranton Strangler would say
I really liked clark, but pete not so much. Clark was very funny, and he had a lot of funny lines i wished he would have been in the show for longer
Exact same opinion on Clark mate
@@wylowood4939 same I don’t like Clark he just weird
@@Trainer_Ruffles I respect your opinion, but I’m saying I do like Clark
I kinda liked Clark, but the episode where he makes Erin audition for a news anchor has really rapey vibes, it's really disgusting
@@lucaspereira6732 ikr
I easily hate Phyllis more than a few of these characters lol
Oh?? Elaborate?
Worst sitcom character 100%, just finished my second viewing of the series and every time she's on screen with her shirty comments and bullshit sensibility and overall aura. I want to stab her. Worst character. Worse than season 9 Andy. I wish she was killed off, fuck I hate Phyllis.
She's worse than Ross from Friends and I fucking despise Ross.
@@sydneyphillips8936 shes petty af and acts like the sweet old lady
@@alZiiHardstylez Absolute hot garbage of a personality, my litmus test? of all the characters in the show, I would be sad the least if they killed her off.
Angela is the worst to me. So mean-spirited and all the cheating is irredeemable. Stanley cheating on his wife ruined his character for me too. Bummer cuz Stanley was my favorite until I caught that episode.
I’m gonna say it:
Kelly is the most annoying character. Change my mind.
I don't have to change your mind bc you're right.
I'd mention Andy too but it's like he has different personality modes and isn't always consistent. Mild Andy is best Andy.
@@cat007ification Andy is sometimes annoying (in my opinion of course), but he’s funny and kind of a nice guy.
"No, i don't think i will"
Kelly is annoying, but not someone I hate.
Phyllis is worse than Kelly
Reason: I hate her.
I never have been exposed to the online community but I always liked pam for whatever reason. I think it’s because she genuinely seems like a good person with a good heart.
I think that pam is great representation of normal girl. She doesn't have any super special qualities positive or negative
Any “office fan” who hates Pam isn’t really a fan, they’re a hater.
No we hate Pam and love the show
@@rishikalia6022 You're a hater
well i mean they can still hate herand be fans of the show
@@reyy9220 apparently misogynistic people are only that way because of an opinion they have. Oh my goodness where is your logic?
No the show is great, Pam is just an awful character that actually gets better only towards the end, possibly the last episode
Lol. I’m dying when he said “speaking of a bad taste in your mouth” then an Arby’s ad played 😂🤣😂🤣
Same but it was pizza rolls
For me it was a Syfy ad.
i didn’t even realize until now that mini jim (pete) got with the receptionist like him did
I think the moniker, Mini-Jim should've been assigned to Clark, not Pete. He was more clever and thinking up pranks and schemes, et cetera. Even Dwight said he looked like a Schrute, thinks like a Halpert, and acts like a Beesly> Not sure what "acts like a Beesly means, but oh well.
ok, imma keep it short. Pam is actually a good character. if you disagree it is your opinion because your wrong
I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Ryan started the fire.
Gabe should've been a mention because it he seems like Toby but instead of just Michael having a problem with him the whole office does. There's a lot of parallels between Toby and Gabe once you look at it.
Who hates Pam? She's one of the best and most relatable characters in the show and one of the main four. Kinda seems misogynistic to hate Pam for the reasons listed and not someone like Dwight.
Agreed that hate for Pam is dumb, but the Dwight comparison makes no sense lol
I don’t get why people hate Pam she’s awesome and her development is amazing
I think people find her bland and kind of passive aggressive, at least thats why her and Jim get on my nerves sometimes.