I am 75 years old and went for my first blood test of my life. My last physical was in 1969. The doctor asked if I smoked. That's it. Didn't ask what I ate, how I slept or if I exercise. I told her I fast and she said "Why would you fast?". No paperwork for the blood test. Just a call saying my cholesterol and LDL are a bit high. It was a joke. Guess I'll wait another 55 years for my next physical.
Regular mds are utterly useless. Going for a yearly “ checkup” frankly is a total waste. They test almost nothing. Best to just get your own blood test the. Read it or hire a real knowledgeable person to read it. My wife gets a blood test with 200 markers read by a functional medicine doc. Md said he didn’t know 90% of what the tests meant. That said it all. Func doc caught stuff regular md never knew about.
Why did you go? Once 93 years old lady came for check up first time , healthy living with her brother, the young primary care doctor told her please go , don’t come back as your health will be ruined, please don’t tell any body I told so . She asked why? He told her will lose my job as my mother medical doctor did ,asked her to resign. True story.
Medical experts for treating diseases not preventing diseases. This is what they teach in medical schools. This is a fact. We are responsible for our health and safety.
I just wanted to establish a doctor of record. At 75 years I have never had a prescription. I still wear a 29" waist jeansike I did when I graduated High School in 1967. Never had acid reflux, headaches, bloating, arthritis or any problems except eye glasses and routine dental work. I feel exactly like I felt when I was 18 years old. I am Apoe2.
Coca Cola was a treat I had when I visited my great aunt once in awhile and the only time we really had candy was on Halloween and maybe at the rare movie.
I did this with my girls on soda... They were allowed one on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Most the time they forgot about it because they were not addicted to them because they didn't drink them during the week. Now they don't really drink them much and they are grown and gone.
Furthermore, my dad had me a sip of beer as a child because I was so persistent, I remember how it tasted so bitter and was truly disgusted by it. That's why I never like any form of alcohol now as an adult.
I was on Ozempic for 3 years. Went from 230 to 180lbs. My A1C went from 11.0 to 4.8. My fasting glucose reading was at 300. Now its 89. I have not been on Ozempic for a year now. I have not gained any weight and my sugar is still at 4.8/89. Ozempic taught me how to eat again but it def killed my cravings. That has been the hardest part of being off of Oz. You don't have to be on it for the rest of your life but you do have to change your life if you want to change perm
So what if I have to take a once a week shot till I die. I’ve lost 75 lbs and the change has been wonderful. High cholesterol is gone. I’ve reduced my diabetic meds and blood pressure. I have no sugar cravings. 71 years old and now feel fantastic. Jumped to Tirzepatide to lose a little more. Obviously you guys haven’t used what you’re talking about.
@@buzzcory8128 exactly. The benefits 100% outweigh the risks. Its been out now for roughly 4years and they keep finding additional benefits and NOTHING bad has come out (yet). When entire industries like food and diabetic aftermarket are blaming their loss of profits on this, you know you're on to something 🎉
The cravings came back, eventually but now I recognize and immediately distract myself. Ill go garden or design. It took a long time but i was able to do it @@sarahshanahan2222
I’m 73 years old - I was in severe constant pain; I couldn’t move my head nor bend. Over 8 years ago diagnosed with chronic severe degenerative arthritis- told “nothing to be done” I Got cervical fusions with titanium etc also lumbar fusions too. I had 2 small strokes & much more that I won’t get into. Decided to change my life - went from keto- eventually to carnivore. I’m so well. The plethora of meds - now in the bin. I no longer take any meds. I walk miles daily. I’m at the best optimal weight ever - and ever so well -- and have been for over 5 years.
channel Dr Ken Berry "carnviore for beginners", "carnivore flu", electrolyes' = worth your time. other carnivore channels: Home stead how, kelly hogan, shawn baker md podcast, no carb life, dr chaffee. Carnviore heals the body, brain, immune system!! It WORKS.
As a school lunch lady I know first hand how poorly we nourish kids at school. Having to follow the government food guidelines, which require grains, vegetables, fruits, meat, milk. Believe me, the meat is minimal and usually contains sauces and gravies, which stretch the amount and add sugar and seed oils. The fruit is canned also containing sugar. The breads , which we do make fresh each day, yet made with shortening, sugar and flour. Breads also often times are bread sticks covered with margarine and spices. Vegetables are canned ( often sweetened) or frozen to which is added margarine and salt. Then there’s dessert which we usually make from scratch, but again more shortening, sugar and if it has fruit it’s sweetened. Beverages served are milk, white and chocolate ( and of course most children choose chocolate MORE sugar) and fruit juices ( MORE SUGAR). The meals are extremely high in carbohydrates! Extremely high in sugar! It fills their belly’s with basically no good nutritional value at all!! It breaks my heart
What you know is compelling evidence on why kids are overweight and depressed. Please be the strongest voice you can muster to bring everyone the information that you absolutely know intimately. What we feed our kids is terrible along with patients in hospitals and nursing homes. Keep speaking up! Thank you!
@@bonnievicari9167 everyone knows how bad school lunches are. Even if they don't understand that food can be bad. No one went to a lower end school and said "Damn this is gourmet food" though you get like any keto UA-camr rewriting a low budget menu it would be better than 90% of restaurants taste wise.
That’s because Calley Means (the other guy) owns True Nutrition, and peptides, especially semiglutide, are getting in the way of his profits big time these days.
WHY IS NOBODY ASKING THIS QUESTION: If Ozempic slows gastric emptying to such an extent that food is sometimes still in the stomach days later, is it even physically POSSIBLE for a patient to digest the required amount of protein in a day to avoid muscle loss? Everyone keeps saying Ozempic is safe so long as you exercise and eat enough protein, without asking if their bodies can even digest that amount of protein while on the drug.
Interesting question! I had to think a bit on this, and tho I'm no expert, in general, people are eating a lot less on these meds, so the total amount of food is much less. Many people are eating less carbs, since they aren't as appealing while on Ozempic.
@@jonischneider5244 rubbish! i belong to an Ozempic etal fb group and there has never been any stories or experiences of folks throwing up maggots. you do know the body is a sealed unit, that does not let flies in! stop with the fear mongering!
@@laraderksen4297 yes! Plus, Tirzepitide doesn’t has the same rate of side effects as Semiglutide. Many people with nausea take Tirz if they have nausea.
Registered Nurse here. This topic is so interesting and the time has come for Americans to advocate for their health. If you wait for the Medical community to catch the train, you’re late already!
Thank you Tyna for your expertise. I’ve had a normal BMI my entire life. Hit my 40s and went through menopause early, and I have hashimotos. I’ve always exercised and ate healthy my whole life. I started gaining weight, had no energy, body was always hurting, depression. Tried everything…..no sugar, no gluten, keto, carnivore with no results. My dr prescribed the lowest dose 2.5mg of Zepbound (tirzeptide). It has changed my life. I lost the 30lbs I had gained over the last 4 years. Have more energy, healed my gut, no more hot flashes. We are now lowering my thyroid medication. I take a 1 week off each month. Loved hearing Tynas perspective. Wish they would have let her talk more.
@@bodyfirmfitness3534 no specific reason….my dr actually prescribed semaglutide (wegovy) but it wasn’t available so he chose Zepbound. I’ve been happy with tirzepatide so I’ve stuck with it. I’m using compound tirzepatide now cause of the shortage and cost of Zepbound. I’ve heard great things about semaglutide. I’m sure it’s very comparable.
I can see it from each of their perspectives. Tyna is talking very specifically about set circumstances where the conditions are tailored to the patient. Hyman is open more to the idea of it being natural within the body and likely offering some benefits but knowing the limitations are important. Calley is looking at this from a pharma/food insider and understanding their motives, he is concerned about the longer term affects on the average patient, knowing most don't have doctors like Tyna and Hyman who will take the time to tailor solutions. They all have valid points.
This is an underrated comment, and exactly how we should be watching this. Love the mindset of Mark and Tyna, but Calley knows the incentives and economic models of big food and big pharma. He knows how the game is played.
Valid point but I'm 71 with prediabetes, heart failure, renal failure, vascular disease, MI, multiple blood clots. I'm down from 178 to 160 and living my best life. I'm not worried about long-term side effects.
My mom is using Monjouro and she has lost 120 pounds. She needed a leg up to get a kick start on this journey… she felt helpless for decades… she is keto now also.. but these drugs are not a solution if there is no lifestyle change…
My inflammation went away after 5 weeks. I've been going to every doctor, taking every medication that doesnt work for 7 years. Now I feel great. The weight loss is the added bonus. I feel great.
Cally obviously thinks everyone is the same. I appreciate you Mark and Tyna, you get people like me. Thank you for helping us!!! We need the help and support. Thank you!
Some people need to understand that addiction is often stronger than the will to live. Junk food is addictive, that is pretty well accepted. Getting off of junk food can be like getting off of heroin. Thank you Dr Hyman for understanding that there are so many sides to so many issues.
SO true!!! Struggling for many years to manage consistent, healthy weight, I once prayed to lose the desire for fast foods! Thankfully, I don’t eat them anymore.
I haven’t eaten ‘junk food’ in 20 years. No pizza. No soda. No chips. No artificial sweeteners. I garden and cook daily. I think that some obese people fall into the habit of eating junk food because diets don’t work for 95% of people with obesity, so they say, “to hell with it - who cares? I might as well eat what I want”. I refuse to eat that stuff because I love myself. However, just because i eat clean doesn’t mean that it’s a magic pill to treat my obesity. Obesity is a disease. Medication helps. A lot. It also isn’t a cure, but it helps to manage it.
@@LeahBrooksJeremiahGardens "Junk" food is cheap. McDonald's nasty hamburgers are MUCH cheaper than using electricity to cook overpriced food. It's not always about habit. It can be about convenience, money, and a lot of other factors. :(
I started this 4 weeks ago. I have Hashimoto’s. I have normal blood pressure, A1-C, and cholesterol. I eat mostly Whole Foods. I never felt hungry. I started this and I feel like a different human. I have bone on bone knees and a bad hip. All need to be replaced. My first shot was on Saturday night at 8:30. I peed all night. Woke up and could take my rings off. I had lost 5 lbs of water/inflammation, all my pain is gone. I finally feel hunger which allows me to know when I’m not hungry. I feel 20 years younger, I’m 62, and my foggy brain is gone and my depression is gone. It has truly been a miracle! I feel hope! I’m also only taking .25 and I don’t plan to go up! I am 5’8” and 289.4. I have not weighed myself yet, but I know I have lost weight.
@@Lanamarri36712 I spend less on food on carnivore. Meat is so much more nutritious that you dont eat as much volume of food. shop sales on meat. I use a good amount of ground beef and have 2 to 6 eggs a day.
Dr. Tyna Moore's information is great. Her take on GLP1 was new for me and was presented in a clear and concise manner. Her skill as a practitioner who is able to think out of the box and advocate for her clients was on full display and refreshing.
@@aluxman I fully agree. I was so fascinated with what she was saying about microdosing GLP1 and I even convinced my Dr. to prescribe it to me at a compounding pharmacy!! I am here to watch the video again so I can figure out more about exactly how she does this.
As a non-average American, with mold toxicity, autoimmune, hormone imbalance, POTS, etc., I really appreciate Dr. Tyna and Dr. Hyman sharing their knowledge! I need help getting back to homeostasis, and it’s been SO hard. This gives me hope, which I also need. I agree with the young man that America’s food system and pharmaceutical system is corrupt, but as someone who isn’t able to exercise (used to be three sport athlete & trained for a half marathon) I need help getting back there. Thanks for this podcast! Great listen!
Try carnivore for 90 days, you may be very amazed at how you feel and the improvements you experience. Learn on UA-cam from doctors Berry and Chaffee. Good health to you!
He can encapsulate his point in a few sentences, but he keeps repeating his point during this interview. Too much passion combined with little scientific research. Shades of RFK Jr
I have never commented on a podcast but I want to thank you for this. I am a 50 yr old female who had a normal high BMI at 24 and couldn’t find a functional doctor for insulin resistance and brain fog. I went to a medispa for bioidentical hormones and the doctor there recognized my metabolic disarray. I already eat reasonably clean but she convinced me to try semaglutide to help with the insulin resistance and high ldl and bp. I did drop some weight but very slowly and took lower doses to help with the inflammation. She also put me on testosterone cream but my world changed. I can think clearly and I have maintained my muscle mass. There is definitely a population of people perhaps like me this can help and I haven’t heard anyone talk about this. The sad thing is the absorbent cost that stretches my budget but I don’t plan to be on for life but to try to see how I can manage how I feel. My wish was there were more cost effective ways to help the population and more functional physicians out there to help. My Medispa doctor is wonderful but she doesn’t do what you do.
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Both arguments make sense to me. As a dietitian it is clear to me that people need this. Behavioral changes simply aren’t happening. However how will we ever be forced to improve our food system if we have an endless supply of quick fixes to accommodate our broken one?
Calley made some excellent points early on in interview but as it went on it became very clear that he is blinded by his ego, lack of humility and desire to be right and prove his stance, even in the face of clear and concise evidance that contradicts him. I am a 36 year old who has been dedicated to fitness all my life, avid weight lifter for over 10 years, i eat a high protien healthy diet, but also have been highly addicted to junk food my whole life, it a bad....BAD way. I started using semiglutide as a "Leg up" and it has helped tremendously. For the first time in my life i have control over my diet. If you have ever struggled with food additction you know what i mean. For me, adding semaglutide to my active high protien diet has been life changing. I hope Calley can be more open minded to the potential benefits
Loving Dr Tyna. I have followed her for a couple years. They both have valid points and I love these discussions. I get where Calley is coming from but i had the same idealism in nutrition until I was the one needing to lose weight. I was raised on all Whole Foods with minimal processed food and then after having my two kids I blew up and weighed more than when I was pregnant. Healthy foods, fasting, and all the usual options didn’t lift the weight. Then the disappointment makes you want to eat whatever you like if it doesn’t change how you feel and look. It’s a rough cycle. Calley just hasn’t been there.
@sellmav you should probably read up a bit more before you make an incompetent comment like this. Human anatomy is much more complicated than this. Try PubMed-
@@sellmav I have done a 10 day WATER ONLY fast and only lost one pound and no body .2% body fat (which measurement could have been effective by hydration status only). I have done a 3 day fast and GAINED. It's not as simple as eating less or not eating.
These two physicians do not live in regular America. We regular folks do not have doctors who take the time to ask questions and think of our best interests. Our doctors follow a script that they are given by their employers. This pie-in-the-sky utopia medical practice is not attainable for Us regular folks. Thank you, Calley, for standing your ground.
It’s not about them. A regular person can be develop self awareness about their health. If you are counting on doctor to tell you what is wrong you will most likely be suffering a long time until you find the one who actually cares. You are responsible for your health. You can do better by picking and choosing your food. By making sometime to walk or exercise. By practice proper breathing. It is not their job to teach you that. Are they responsible for not caring and thinking of the money? Absolutely, but at the end of the day, you are responsible for YOURself. If you are waiting for them to say «change your life still » when you know you should, you are the one responsible, sorry. It’s easy to put the blame on others and trust me I hate doctors and went through experiences, but I also know that no one is responsible for me, how I feel, what I do, how I choose to react to things. Because most people don’t care about anyone else, it’s best to care for yourself and that means taking accountability for yourself.
@@rawganismHow condescending and your bias shows. Many people have been very responsible and done careful food awareness and breathing and exercise and still suffered for decades despite their very best efforts. And your condescending presumptions match those of most condescending doctors.
@cornypinkuni9519 toughen up buttercup . This person is totally right It's all on you. That includes probably having to spend thousands of dollars out of pocket each year for health and anyone that says they can't afford it has got their priorities wrong. I have great insurance but I still spend $200 a month on a concierge doctor who's at my beck and call 24/7 and doesn't follow the corrupt insurance system. That said only me is going to fix my health You have to be proactive nowadays and that's what the message this person was trying to get across we lying on a doctor isn't going to get you anywhere especially in the system now
I just wanted to share this. I waited until I was 39 going on to 40 to have a child. My best friend at the time was a nutritional therapist. What we did was, in every phase of fetal development that was going on while I was pregnant, I was eating specifically to feed the growth stages. I was already rather healthy eating organic and at a decent weight… But I became hyper vigilant and focused on eating pristine to totally help my growing child inside of me. So whatever phase I was in, she would give me the list of foods to consume in helping aid a healthy growing fetus. When they took my blood work, you would think I was some kind of miracle or something! The doctor had never seen such beautiful bloodwork apparently? He said to me, you must eat extremely well and take very good care of yourself! He then asked me what did I eat and do. I also had bloodwork done after I delivered my baby months later and was told the same thing, they literally went out of their way to talk about how beautiful my blood work was. So to me, that’s a true testament of just how much our diets affect our overall health. My child was born so healthy. My delivery was amazing. I didn’t even have stretch marks… My doctor said that I should have more babies! I was already 40! There is definitely something to be said for eating a very clean wholesome diet.
@@Ideasareeverything she does not have her business anymore, life took another road for her. She ended up going to work in hospice I will share another interesting fact about the power of diet. She took a man who was in hospice many years ago who was also a dear friend at the time, this was well before she actually went to work for hospice… she took control of what was going into his feeding tube as well as visiting with him often. I can tell you this, not only did she have him living a lot longer than they thought but, he had regrowth of his hair, his glasses actually lowered in prescription strength and his skin was beautiful. There is power and medicine in our food. I know she was giving him puréed salmon along with certain vegetables… It was many years ago, and the people around him were very diligent in keeping up with all of that. Very diligent about his feeding tube and keeping it clean… It takes research and diligence and sometimes just a total retraining of ourselves and we can be our own healers.
I really love the empathy both Drs have towards people that have really struggled. When you see people in front of you really struggling, you can’t help but to ask what can you do? ❤
@itsmej87 you realize there are medications that save lives during overdoses of drugs. It's a risk benefit situation in every case so people need to stop generalizing medicine pharma bad.
You have to want to change. I was an alcoholic and carnivore saved me. Gotta have strong will power and desire. Got medication to detox and started my journey towards health and recovery. Couldn't be happier today
@jeredphillips3424 when the world is your enabler and you literally have to eat to live, it's a trickier solution in terms of losing weight. Add hormonal issues like pcos where people actually do keto or low carb and still struggle and you'd understand how these medicines could help. Coming from someone who's worked out and dieted since middle school. (You can see my page that I've been thin but not metabolically so).
I am on Tirzepatide, no side effects and immediately stopped having cravings for bad foods, I am a fibromyalgia patient and it’s helped my inflammation. I have been in the organic and wellness space for 22yrs. I know all about good food exercise and have been on and off of extremely good habits. It takes a full year to change your habits Perimenopause caused me to have a big appetite I gained 40lbs and I am now down 7lbs in two weeks, eating right, not craving sugar/alcohol I feel SO MUCH BETTER. Peptides are incredible and so healing and anti-inflammatory.
You know what people who have never been obese miss? They miss it every. Single. Time. It's not about eating less and moving more. It's about the food noise experienced by people with obesity. They also miss the chronic feeling of hunger and the inability to feel satiated. I just started taking Wegovy and overnight that all stopped. My self-control, my motivation, my drive did not change. I am the same person. I just don't wake up thinking about food. I don't feel constant hunger. I don't feel the need to keep eating after I know I've eaten enough. If I never lost another pound I would keep using Wegovy to just have the peace in my own mind. All of the sudden I am enjoying healthier eating and exercising. All of the sudden I am able to "eat less and move more" without feeling deprived. This is a turning point in obesity treatment. I agree that our food environment is toxic. If 30% of the population suddenly were eating smaller portions and eating healthier it would change our whole economy and ultimately our food environment. I am team semaglutide for sure. It may not work for everyone but it will change obesity treatment, and how we understand obesity and that is a very good thing.
A lot of people talk about the ability to concentrate more without the constant cravings and hunger. I can see why they want people to stay on it for life. It almost sounds like OCD and the compulsive desire to wash hands and the like. No one wants to live with that feeling.
What I think you're missing is most people deal with "food noise", hunger, and cravings. These drugs come with a heavy price. Be prepared to lose your hair, not a little but clumps and clumps coming out, bald spots. These drugs have a horrifying side effect. Nothing is free. Don't gaslight me and tell me the hair loss is from "rapid" weight loss or a "shock" to the body. Some I have talked to say they don't care about hair loss until it starts to happen. It is horrifying.
@@SCharlesS fasting is probably the ONLY tool that was able to help me with food noise. And I felt great eating only one time a day. But it got to the point where I was still overweight and only eating one 900 calorie meal a day. I had to try eating every other day to lose weight. I think my problem was it is too difficult to get the minimum needed protein with fasting so I burned through all my lean tissue.
I started with keto diet for couple of years age. Now on low carb diet. After that I fasted hard core. Taking a break from fasting (just intermittent fasting currently).Have another ~30-40 lb to lose. Thanks for you all!!! You all are amazing!!! There is great information online-just have to try what works for you!!! And say NO to drugs!!!
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@Tyna thank you for your balanced approach. I am also a prescriber of GLP-1s which has helped numerous of my cardiac patients reduce their risk. This drug was definitely demonized by someone who clearly doesn’t prescribe it. It’s also completely misleading that this is primarily used in pediatric patients as your opponent was fixated on. It’s a little fear-mongering which is reminiscent of certain news platforms. I love your idea of micro-dosing as well as proof of fitness tracking. I have not had any major effects and nausea is not permanent. It’s very hard for my patients to lose weight and reduce risk. This has been a great option. Yes, we should fix our food supply and we should exercise daily. Thank you for your wisdom and getting the correct information out there!
I find the rigid, black and white, idealistic thinking of the young guy (Calley?) very trying. Love and am thankful for the approach of Tina and Dr. Hyman.
He’s not listening and responding to what is being shared in the conversation. He has his platform and sound bytes ready to go and is missing the nuanced points that are being made by everyone else.
The interview would have been so much better without his annoying interference. He definitely had an agenda. Dr. Tyna Moore spoke from real life experience with her patients.
It’s always refreshing to see intellectuals come together to discuss nuance information and still respect each other. The problem I have with Calley’s stance is that what happens when you are a Vegetarian (like myself) who uses food as medicine and exercises 7 days a week (I’m a Ballerina, runner, and Yin Yoga practitioner), yet, my hereditary high cholesterol doesn’t go away; therefore, rendering me as a lifelong recipient of my statin drug. Sometimes, people really have a genetic mutation, like I do, whereby my HDL is not operating properly since I was a kid. Therefore, statins were the solution, even though I worry that it is damaging my liver. What else can I do? As for Tyna and Mark, thank you for your knowledge. I will ALWAYS be your fan and virtual patient. I truly and highly respect you guys.
Tyna, thank you for being on this show today. It is obvious that you are VERY knowledgeable. I really learned a lot from you today. Calley, on the other hand, is out of his league here.
I disagree with those that say Dr. Hyman needs to talk less. Thankfully Mark creates incredibly useful and informative content that is a service to us all. I appreciate Mark's sense of humor, cheerfulness, the fact that he does not seem to take himself too seriously and his willingness to listen to opposing ideas. During this interview Mark had to reel Calley Means in as Calley did not seem to want to listen to Dr. Moore and came across as clearly agitated/angry. The country and the world needs more doctors like Dr. Hyman (and Dr. Tyna Moore) who attempts to educate us about our health through diet, nutrition and lifestyle while introducing us to a host of different guest, doctors and specialists who do not always agree but seem to be fighting for the better good and to improve peoples health, quality of life and healthspan. Thank you Dr. Mark Hyman for your work, compassion and all the wonderful information you make available to improve our health and lives.
I don’t think Dr Hyman needs to talk less, but he does need to stop constantly interrupting his guests. He frequently interrupts and you can see it derail his guests’ train of thought. I get so irritated by it. But he’s got such valuable knowledge and insights!
@@dianemcq64 Agree. Don't mind listening to his ideas when he speaks alone, but when he has guests his interviewing skills need much work. He's very impulsive and interruptive. Highly annoying.
@@dianemcq64Dr. Hyman HAD To interrupt the one guy. That other guy spoke like he was setting congress straight from the moment he started talking. He seemed to have a black and white view, and looked at a “process” as being a flaw or worse yet a flaw or failure. Many of people who tune in are on those drugs. They need to get to a certain place to reduce them and hopefully eliminate them. I reduced one drug down to 25% and eliminated two as I learned things (mostly from UA-cam and not from doctors-with one notable exception) like resistance training while I have impaired mobility, fermented foods to heal my gut and to change my sugar addiction-because it is an addiction, foods that heal inflammation, how important things like nitric oxide are and why-it is a process of learning, implementing, and reassessing-then learning and implementing again and reassessing. When you step into the process, you do not dump all your drugs on day one. I would’ve had sky high blood pressure and a host of other problems.
Grew up in 1960's with constant supply of tv dinners, tuna helper, chips, cookies, soda. My mom grew up during Depression where food was scarce so she made sure we were well fed with the latest advertised processed food. As an adult, I never changed my junk food eating, even with reports coming out that an organic whole food diet is necessary for good health and my diet was making me fat & sick. Fatty liver disease diagnosis after ultrasound in my 40's didn't stop my bad diet. Now in my 60's with autoimmune neuroinflammation that is immobilizing me. I cant turn back the clock but I can warn others to change your ways before its too late.
You CAN turn back the clock. A 90 day Elimination Diet using the Carnivore diet with time-restricted eating can be powerful. After that you may be able to ease up and eat more widely (Ketovore or Carnivore or Ketogenic) within the range of Low Carb High Fat ways of eating. Dr. Ken Berry has playlists on both Carnivore and Ketogenic diets that can help you get started.
My mom also was born in the mid ‘30’s and with 8 kids and her dad died when she was 5, she grew up very poor, and when she married my dad, who had a good white collar job , she could buy all the food types she never had as a kid, lots of soda too.
Great Podcast. I'm on injectable Tirzepatide. Amazing what it has allowed me to fix. Diet and food choices are so much easier now. A few years back I was on multiple meds for heart and T2 diabetes issues, and now, over the last couple years, I have been able to remove all of those meds. Weight down, heart rate down, BP down, glucose down (amazing). I'm now working on improving the sleep. The next "big hurdle" is getting back to resistance training back into the mix. At 59 I know I have lost a good amount of lean mass and need to work to gain some of that back. When used correctly and not as a band-Aid, these medications can give you the push to move in the right direction.
I absolutely agree when you start gaining weight the your health can start spiraling downhill causing weight in the midsection causing heart attacks high blood pressure medication and so forth.if you're able to lose weight you could drop medications be more productive and be more active I don't know what the long-term side effects of this medication is but I think it can work wonders for a lot of people not everybody's overweight issues can be fixed I believe .I don't believe in one size shoe fits everybody.I'm overweight and in an elderly woman and I don't eat no snack food and eat only maybe one meal a day and therefore I store fat it's what I've been told what I do eat I store because if your body is not used to getting food they say it stores it but if that was the case my body should be used to it because they would say well I'm not going to get fed again so I'm going to hold on to this but after years and years of eating a approximately 1 to 2 ml a day if that true how do you still gain weight and that was my primary goal was not to spiral downhill and I see a lot of that happening once you gain weight you have health issues and then you're not able to be active can you develop high blood pressure can can steam from being overweight midsection weight can they say can cause heart issues and so on.. I have seen people that take this and they don't exercise and they lose weight I did not know it was a lifetime medicine and I'm curious about the future side effects because sometimes it takes years for a new things come out about medications but I think it would be a plus for lots of people there's women with in their 50s or 60s that lost hormones deficient their body doesn't lose weight as fast as a man that's been proven that women that's never been overweight become overweight at that age it's because we have deficiencies we start losing things in our body we have a lot of deficiencies in our food we need minerals we need vitamins hormones and a lot of people don't want to do hormone replacement it's been a study that can cause cancer and then I read there was a study after that that said it did not I'm looking into all that that's why this got my attention I feel like a lot of women are misdiagnosed untreated with antidepressant pills and I think that's the answer for everything once they get into these changes in their body I don't really see an expanded help for HRT because you know I don't think there's a lot of women that cared for it because of cancer causing issues about the research that I read that it they done another research after that that said that it did not that that was proven not to be quite so but I don't know how true that is but how it could be beneficial because most of the American people are overweight and is our food is it regulated like the people in the other countries? their diet is different and they are skinny .. I can see where a lot of women would turn to this in a crisis where they gain weight, they're just basically handed anti depressant and then you have to go through how many to the right one? trial situation a hit or miss you have to try different ones well who wants their brain chemistry messed with that much
You need to make sure your getting enough protein & try to eat like 3-5 times a day w/smaller portions, kind of like grazing, but of course w/proper foods such as: protein, vegs, fruit, dairy, etc. & you'll lose. Your right, eating once a day your body thinks its being starved & will store what it can.
I truly appreciate Tina and Dr. Hyman's approach. It is realistic, compassionate, and based on decades of working with people. Many need help making the big changes needed to keep the weight off. Obesity is a disease and needs a multi-faceted approach.
Obesity is not a disease. Obesity is based on the law of thermodynamics. Because people are not making good choices it is crippling our healthcare system. The expense of these drugs makes it financially unattainable as a society.
Something I noticed as a new mom is the clothing sizes. My kids are super active and eat pretty much only single ingredient foods so they are trim and vivacious. We consistently have to take in waists to accommodate their trim frames. But if I buy or put on clothes from when my husband was little? No issue. Children’s clothing even proves the point Calley is making.
I've just started Ozempic. My doctor is quite positive about the drug. I am a type 2 diabetic that has gotten my A1c down to 5.8. I still need to a bit more. I asked what she thought about using it for fatty liver disease. She said studies indicate that it helps. She wasn't pushy but very proactive in getting ahead of my health problems. I don't take metformin because I have problems swallowing them. My doctor said I might be able to get off of my high blood pressure meds and statins. I mainly follow a lowcarb diet. She encouraged walking and weight resistance training. As a diabetic I was approved for the drug. She said going to a compounding pharmacy is also available. So far I've noticed my pain in my whole body is lessening. That was the reason I was there for tests. I'll watch for the side affects but I'm glad she offered it. Also, while im not excessively overweight, I might loose some too. Ive lost over 30 lbs previouly over the last two years. I just cant seem to loose more, and part of the problem is i cant exercise effectively. I'm in too much pain. Some has to do with a previous back surgery and that was another reason for my visit. So...I think maybe we shouldn't be narrow minded but approach this cautiously. Im very glad she perscribed it. I was able to pick up weights for the first time with less pain. At least I'm progressing.
So my prayers for the good doctors out there that do speak out and do the right things that is not for their own convinience or profit while hurting the patient. Thank you Dr. Hyman. Keep being on the right side🙏
I appreciate the docs bringing up those of us that are doing alllll the things - and still don’t lose fat. I eat the protein, prioritize fiber, eat Probiotic foods - and a supplement, prioritize sleep, resistance training with progressive overload, do functional fitness exercises, some cardio but nothing excessive, minimal processed foods, work to actively reduce stress, and I honestly have great labs (not insulin resistant ) and I am building muscle.,.. but it’s nearly impossible for me to lose fat (confirmed with DEXA scan ). I have to cut calories severely and when I do I no longer have the energy to do the exercise. Some of us just don’t have a simple answer. I’m an educated person that has always cared about what I put in and on my body. Yet it remains extremely difficult for me. Yes most people aren’t putting in that kind of effort but I like the idea of micro dosing the med to help me deal with the hunger and reduced energy that comes from calorie restriction. And unless you have worked as hard as I have and lost zero fat - you might not understand
I understand. I'm a health coach and do all the things, but the weight just keeps coming. I'm changing up some hormones, and then we are going to start low dose semaglutide in August. I'm hoping it changes things since most of my peri to post clients are dealing with the same struggle.
You sound like me! All my life. Just listened to Dr. Cate Shanahan who talks about PUFA overload in our bodies. If you have this your body will NOT use your fat. Very interesting studies. Just waiting for her book to arrive.
I agree with Calkey Means. This reliance by the medical world on treating people with, and keeping them on drugs is keeping them sick. I was diagnosed with afib, which I, believe, was from a long period of sleep deprivation. I did not want to go on drugs and blood thinner, the standard for this condition.. Since I had no other risk factors, and my afib was intermittant, my doctor agreed to let me not take the drugs. I had the afib for three years, had gone to a sleep specialist to correct my sleep habits, and studied what foods could trigger the heart rhythm to go off. I am happy to say I have not had any afib for six years, when I was told by specialists I would only get worse as I get older. I'm 67 and doing well.
Calley is right! My relative has been on Ozempic for over a year and his social media is filled with him eating everything in sight and pounding the alcohol. Nothing learned, nothing changed.
Thanks for this! I understand Dr. Means, but take it from someone who considers herself disciplined and informed, I've tried everything. My weight yoyos, which I believe is pretty had on my body. I have high blood pressure for some unknown reason, maybe my 240 lb body? Now my cholesterol is high and my Dr. what to give me a statin on top of 2 blood pressure meds, enough! Something is off in my body. I fought taking weight loss meds cause I'm not a medication person. I eat well and exercise. I don't do soda and processed foods. I've added a GLP-1. It's helping me improve my lifestyle. No side effects. My BP meds have risks and side effects. I agree that the med isn't magic. Lifestyle has to be at the forefront. One month in, It's helped like you can't imagine. You don't know what it's like to constantly think of food or feel like you're not able to say no or sustain. Eating mostly plant-based for 3 months reduced some of the food noise but nothing like the GLP-1. I'm so encouraged. This interview HAS convinced me not to move up from my 2.5 dose to 5.0 as suggested after 1 month. Instead, I'll double down on lifestyle! The food industry took years to get us into this mess. It will take many more years but I think they'll fix it if we protest with our dollars. I'm protesting with my dollars, but I can't wait for them.💪🏿
I changed my lifestyle radically 4.5 years ago at age 57 and lost 70lbs. I started lifting weights and have transformed my life. However, it was not enough for me after a lifetime of abuse.
If I may ask, what issues remain,? If you still have problems and have discretionary income consider evaluation for enviornmentAl toxins which are everywhere.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I’ve never had a problem with my weight. even after having 6 kids, I always went back to my pre pregnancy weight. The weight started to creep up after the birth of my 9th baby and really took off after my last pregnancy.(10th baby) I was hungry all the time and just couldn’t get enough food. I suppose I messed up my metabolism after a couple of years of yo yo dieting and strict calories restriction, followed by binging. I started a GLP1 medication in February and it has been amazing. My liver enzymes are in the normal range, my a1c is normal and the biggest shift for me has been my relationship with food. I WANT to eat healthy and I’ve been walking 3 miles a day, 5x a week. Im going to Walmart today and buying some weights to start strength training. I have full confidence that I can get off this medication. Before this medication, I had ZERO motivation to lose weight or exercise even though I was fully aware of how important it was. It has been life changing for me. I was almost scared away from it when I saw Calley Means on Tucker Carlson and I made up my mind to stay far away from ozempic or any weight loss injections. That was until my doctor reassured me that a lot of the horror stories were from people who weren’t being managed well. I trusted her enough to start my weight loss journey using Zepbound, and I’m so glad I did! My life is completely different. I feel like I have a new outlook on life. I hope if you’re on the fence about starting this journey, you find peace in knowing that so many people have been helped by it. 💕🙏🏽
Psychologists like me know how to do behavior change, but we need to know what behaviors to change. I taught behavioral weight loss (calorie counting, food tracking, exercise) in the late 1980s. It didn’t work long term as it was too hard and too slow. Know what worked for me in my 60s? Intermittent fasting with no prescriptive diet. Lost 40 lbs, felt easy, kept it mostly off for 3+ years, helped to “unspoil” appetite. Now I’m in early stage of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, trying to reverse this with lifestyle before turning to meds-wish me luck.
I reversed Hashimoto's using the book Thyroid Healing by Medical Medium. I was 45 and wasn't about to take any stupid hormones for life. I couldn't find one single knowledgeable doctor and then I learned the truth about how the body actually functions in Medical Medium books. You can actually reverse any condition and any "disease" using these books. Good luck to you! Intermittent fasting is dangerous because it makes your body run on adrenaline which feeds viruses like Epstein Barr which then drill into your thyroid and give you a thyroid condition
It doesnt work because there are chemical addiction to food that goes beyond will power. If someone cant diet to begin with they cant do intermittent especially if they have blood sugar issues
I absolutely love the micro dosage idea. For someone like me who trains at least theee times per week. I’m very much conscious of what I consumed. Believe it or not , I just want to loose 8-10 pounds that’s it. The weight I have been struggling since I had kids. I have the good habits and I always educate myself on how I can even do better. I love the fact everyone is highly educated on this podcast yet with their own opinions. Most doctors won’t listen for more than two minutes to a patient. So this is why I appreciate this information. I go and just tell the dr what I want .
I weight train 6 days a week and work 2 jobs with varying schedules as a single mom nearly 53. I'm in perimenopause and I'm looking into micro dosing this peptide to assist with the weight gain that has occurred despite changing nothing in my training or intake. The young man spouting idealism needs to direct his venom toward the food industry for manipulating our foods and toward the plastics industry for poisoning our environment. I've been an athlete my whole life and have always eaten well. I take supplements including probiotics. Doctors have done me few favors over the years and I would like the ability to control my own health outcomes.
Start maybe by taking TUDCA pills... Resets the liver... Gets rid of fatty liver and bieve it or not starts the weight loss ball to roll.... They r peptides in TUDCA.... Amazon sells them. Start 1 capsule a day... Up to 3....
You should know by when you are an athlete that the body adapt to situations. Micro dosing is still a pharma intervention with side effects. The metabolism change and adapts, so do your hormones. That is one of the reasons why you have trouble with the weight management. Yes the food industry is lying. But with the right food choice and possibly a metabolic rest, hormone adjustment, training adjustment the weight management is better to handle. I say all that without knowing you, because everyone is individual, but there a some common nominator. Ans in my experience especially athletes doing those mistakes, by not considering the adaptation. I'm 65 and in a shape like in my 30ies and see people every day with problems you describe. No one of them need ozemspic. Because no one want to die because of the side effects.
@@Mona-Faye It can not be and is not micro dose, it is low dose. No one knows the long term side effects of low dose. Yes any effect or side effect is dose dependent. Thats how the body is working. But again: the question is always: why is the body not producing or working that way. That has to be addressed. Just to give the substance/ pharmaceutical doesn't solve the problem and we can not call it healing. Just because only the body can heal them self. It's about the WHY and not to stop when an intervention shows an effect.
This guy who is against big pharma (and we all are!) is SO closed minded and my impression he just wants to be right. I have been taking semaglutide for 8 weeks. I’m a 64 year old woman, 5’2”, with thyroid and cholesterol issues and have never been obese but over the years slowly gained about 30 lbs that I couldn’t lose unless I starve myself which isn’t easy to do. I also have worked out my entire life. This has been a game changer for me (semaglutide). I love my wine and believe it has been a culprit to my inflammation & weight gain. Guess what? I have no desire to drink now. If/when I go off this stuff, will my desires come back? Maybe! But I will say bad habits die hard and I will be much more cognizant about my wine intake in the future as well as what I eat in the future. I REALLY appreciate the gal talking about dosage control as my symptoms have been terrible and now I know it’s about dosage. Let me add I’m under no doctor’s care for this. Yup, it’s easy to get and I increased my dose on my own. Bad idea on my part. I care about what I’m doing to my body which is why I watch these shows to educate myself. I’ve lost 18 lbs in 8 weeks and want to lose 10 more and thanks to the doctors here I am changing my future doses so I’m not so sick. So my advice to the guy stuck on his opinion who doesn’t believe all the good it can and does do for people who are stuck, get over yourself. Please. Thank you for the great information.
It would have been nice to hear more from Dr. Tyna Moore on using this drug responsibly. I'm not sure what the other gentleman's name is, but if we don't hear all sides of an argument how can we be educated/informed? She was trying to explain how to use it and was constantly being cut off. I found this off putting. Two doctors explaining what to do and one person who is not a doctor over talking the explanation. I would be interested in hearing this again with stronger parameters for the 'debate'.
Good health outcomes are a three legged stool: They depend on (1) access to healthcare; (2) Practitioners informed on best practices; and (3) engaged patients that comply with the care plan to include lifestyle changes. The difficulties are that their are failures across each. This discussion is a perfect demonstration of different points of view at play by participants who are informed, passionate about their work. Discussing, debating and deciding is not so much about engendering agreement, but rather in creating a venue/process to illuminate the topic.
There is just so much (rightfully so in many cases) distrust in the medical profession after their treatment of people during & after CoVid, including promotion of a new, not properly researched solution (vaccines). The majority of the blame resides with pharma companies, but medical professionals should be asking more questions & discussing options with those of differing viewpoints. The above discussion is a step in the right direction.
@@janbishop5542 A reminder that in all things, we have to advocate for our health and become informed consumers. You would be amazed at how many practitioners do not prescribe plans of care in accordance with chronic disease protocols.
Good health outcomes are based on... Avoid all doctors as much as possible. Avoid all medication and find real cures. No 'management'. A CURE! Avoid at all costs antibiotics and all medication. Only life and death situations should be the only situation for meds...and see for other solutions. Avoid elderly homes. Avoid any institution. Live in nature, simple, grow your own food. Eat carnivore, keto, little veggies, only fruit in the season, herbs, healthy fats. Avoid sugars, sweets, sweeteners, flour, additives, processed foods, unhealthy fats. Move everyday. Go outside in real light. Developed social deep bonds that last. Choose wisely a partner> only a lifelong partner. Doctors are a nightmare.
If you think there's rational decision making in your comment you're mistaken. It really depends on the givers of those two opinions. If the person saying they're the devil is a research endocrinologist and the person saying they're neither good nor bad is a below average IQ social media influencer I think you'd be dead wrong.
It absolutely depends on who are making those statements, yes. In the context of this video the guy saying they are the devil is not at the level of specialism you stated and the not all good/bad people are not uneducated.
I didn’t need medication to lose weight. I used diet (carnivore diet) to get off all my meds, lose fat and excess water. Now I’m metabolically healthy at 50. Been doing carnivore for over 2 years
I have been organic/ natural keto ten years. My weight loss has maintained . I am compact and muscular. It’s easy. I see how my extended family eats and realize most people have no idea how to eat healthy even though they think they do…..😮 I just live by example now. They get jealous but won’t change.
Started ozempic at 270lbs - Started ozempic and a Atkins all protein diet- down to 195lbs in just about 4 months - now gym 4 times a week with very light weights and Cardo-
With regard to the segment of conversation on dopamine effects and “reducing pleasure across the board” - my experience with Zepbound is it reduces the compulsive quick dopamine fix urges and allows for more pleasure in myriad other activities in life. For the first time in my 55 years I look forward to exercising!
Super impressed with Dr. Tyna Moore and also Dr. Mark Hyman. I appreciate their command of the nuance and details regarding this topic. And also appreciated Mr. Calley Means perspective as pertains to the societal solution (macro) as opposed to the micro solution (individual).
A friend went on Ozempic five years ago and lost 30 pounds which would have been ok if he was over weight. He has been reduced to being frail, sedentary, and depressed. I wish more doctors knew about micro dosing. This was such an interesting conversation…thank you.
You make a great point. Anyone above 50 should really want to avoid muscle wasting. It's called sarcopenia and a real issue. Semaglutide is an artificial fast track to sarcopenea.
OK so this one guy follows no instructions on semaglutide and the rest of us get tarred with the same brush! He didn't bother to eat protein, weight train?
And 55 and perimenopausal. I had my first blood test in 14 years in September 2023 and discovered that I was extreme type two diabetic. That’s going from a belief that I was perfectly healthy. In response to that diagnosis, I have become the poster child of willpower, diet, and exercise not fixing the problem. I exercise about 150 minutes per day. I walk between two and 6 miles per day, I dance four times a week, I play tennis twice a week, and I strength train three times a week, this is a change I made and response to the diagnosis. I also completely cut processed foods out of my diet. I eat only whole, real foods that I prepare in my house - mostly organic, many locally sourced. I limit my carb intake. I get around 25 to 40 g of fibre per day. at my follow-up blood test in December, I had reduced my A1c by about 4.2, but my fasting blood sugar was still elevated and even with that large reduction in my A1c, I was still severely diabetic. I also had lost 16 pounds. And since then I don’t know my blood results yet, but I do know I haven’t lost even an ounce. Even with all the exercise, even with the careful diet even with the willpower - and I’m good at willpower because I used to have Anorexia so restricting intake is easy for me. I have to push back against the urge to not eat at all and force myself to get to 1500 to 1800 cal a day. I don’t take Ozempic, met Forman didn’t help me and it gave me very severe side effects so I don’t take that either, I’m doing this completely unmedicated. I will never take those epic, but I think there has to be more to the problem than just willpower, diet, exercise because I am on point on those things and I’m still fat and diabetic.
do 1 day fasting once a week on every 7th day. and start to integrate daily herbal teas which are known to prevent diabeties. don't pay too much attention to the diagnostics. just listen to your body, listen to your own sense of well being. how do you feel on a daily basis should be your main trust.
by the way, you might still be eating something that have high sugar contents. the salad dressings, the sauces, the toppings? so many variables, but if yours is genetic somehow, only daily regime of the right herbs will balance the scales out.
We must advocate for our own health and insist on what we want when and get any and all referrals to specialists even though you will have to wait a long time for that to materialize! I had to haunt my primary weekly to get me an ent doc bc the submission of the referral took so long!! I have one now BUT now I can see the pressure to clear my known ent ailments will be mine to push for bc whatever stupid little playbook this specialist works from is not fully applicable to me bc when I questioned why I have itching and pain in my both ears his answer was the same >> bc he had only did one thing to my ears that to remove any ear wax! Fine but it also became his answers for my ears ailments! Why itching why pain and he never looked into my ears again on that visit! 15minutes to get an card scheduling a hearing test and a follow-up telephone call doctor patient f/up what the heck will that do??????? Now a follow up battle from me which is annoying as a patient its very frustrating
Highly likely it is the environment (toxins) such as in water, air, allergens, forms of plastics everywhere- in food, containers, makeup, shampoos, etc. It’s everywhere. Note: Even our healthy pets (I exercise my pets) are showing signs of diabetes and cancers…. According to Texas A&M vets, the highest rise in diabetes and cancers in our pets! And I cook and watch what my dogs and cats eat. As for humans…The FDA is looking the other way with loaded bank accounts. It’s not just sugars, it’s chemicals (secret laboratories 🧪 additives) that the govt doesn’t tell us about.
I agree with Calley Means. I am overweight. I had gastrict bypass surgery and lost 127lbs in the 1st year, and continued losing weight after much slower, but loosing weight. I mantained that weight for 12 years and then went through menopause, and I started gaining weight all over again with little to no change in how I was eating. Today I still don't drink alcohol, I don't drink sodas, juice of any kind. I don't eat sweets, cakes, creamy anything including ice cream, because after gastrict bypass I realized when eating any of those things I would get very sick and throw up. I don't eat large amounts because if I do it feels like food gets stock in my esophagus, and it is very painful. Yet, I started gaining weight. My problem is not food, my problem is that I don't exercise, and even though I don't eat sweets and much with sugar I eat some carbs like potatoes and rice with my meal. The years in which I was maintaining my weight I exercised every day 5 days a week, and as menopause started I got depressed and slowed down and never went back to moving. I am currently 209lbs. I would never ever go on a weight loss drug ever. Short cuts don't work, moving exercising does, and don't tell me because you are overweight you can't move at 356lb I couldn't move, and the day after the surgery I was still 356lbs, but I knew if I moved some I would lose weight faster. I also knew if I didn't exercise, I would have a lot of skin hanging. I went down to 144lbs and felt amazing. I did alot of research as of why I was gaining weight again, I then relized I need it to go on hormone replacement and Oh wow, amazing change. I am not depressed I am moving more, I am still eating pretty much the same, but I am moving more, and I am losing weight. All those drugs will hurt other organs, don't believe that doctor that says in small doze you can do it. I have had major health problems after my gastric bypass, life changing problems. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I wish you could just have an episode with just Tyna Moore respect the panel, but seriously Would’ve been nice with just her who she actually knows what she’s talking about
I respect all of their opinions etc, but they would NOT stop interrupting her… I really wanted to hear her finish her thoughts….so irritating..Hyman can’t stop interrupting any of his guests…it makes me want to tune out and go find the guest’s platforms so I can just listen to them without a blabbermouth interrupting every other sentence
This was so enlightening. Let me tell my story. I have Hashimotos diagosed at the beginning of covid. 40 lb weight gain, severe joint pain (I still cant close my left hand all the way due to inflammation) and many other affects of the autoimmune disorder. I was able to obtain Semaglutide from a compound pharmacy after my primary doctor refused the ozempic. I injected it as prescribed: .5. I have never been so sick in my life. Severe nausea and stomach pain. For days. I was forced to go get an IV infusion of zofran, pepcid, vitamins, etc. After feeling better, I decided to microdose myself to see if I could tolerate it. I dropped it to .1 and took a zofran 3 hours prior to the injection. I was fine after I did this. I would up the dose by .1 each week. This was 6 months ago. I still microdose and to this day I still cannot go above .5 and I dont think I need to. I've lost 30 lbs and that's great but what was super amazing was that it has decreased the inflammtion exponentially. I didnt even know this drug did this. My hip pain that I was starting to get disappeared completely in 2 weeks. My hands and feet pain and stiffness has been cut in half. For my condition, this drug has been a miracle. It just needs to be done right. Micro dosing is key.
I'm with Dr Tyna on this, she makes a lot of sense to me. This was an interesting talk. I've struggled with my weight ever since I developed severe rheumatoid arthritis when I was 26. At diagnosis, my CRP was over 100 and my rheumatologist didn't know how I was moving. I'm 49 now and my joints have degraded to where I need crutches and I'm nowhere near as mobile as I used to be. Thankfully, my CRP hovers between 10 and 15, which is still higher than normal, but acceptable as far as my RA goes. I am focussing on my lifestyle relating to diet and the exercise I can do. It's far too painful and damaging to do too much aerobic exercise, so I focus on strength training, either with 3kg dumbbells or resistance bands. I just had my cholesterol checked and my triglycerides are 1.2mmol/L, HDL 1.73mmol/L and my ratio 3.1 despite my fat. So I must be doing something right diet-wise. I'm on enough drugs for RA and pain management, so the last thing I want to do is add more things to my list. If I did, I'd rather it be the lowest dose possible. I'm a work in progress, but I'm going in the right direction.
I have typ 2 diabetes, my hb1ac went down from 6.9 to 5.8 since taking this medication. All my other tests also turned out more positive than before. I even gained muscle mass since I started to actually enjoy walking again without my feet hurting since I lost 55lbs. I did feel nauseous for the first month, but my doctor just kept the dosis low for another month and my body adjusted pretty fast. For me it's life changing. For example 20:30 Calley is saying you have to start changing people's habit - I think that is easy to say for someone who never experienced this food noise many people suffer under that is like an addiction. Before I took this medication, not thinking about food didn't work, just taking a bite of something never worked, not overeating or eating better food never work, I fell into a kind of eating trance where I wasn't in control of my body anymore. In fact I felt like watching a movie instead of being in control. I'm not one of the body positivity guys, I know that what I put into my body is what comes out - but I also know that unless someone would literally 24/7 stand next to me and control my intake I will always lose to the food noise in my head. You are your own worst enemy because you know all of your weaknesses, and that voice is mean and relentless - you can maybe ignore it for a week, but it nags and nags and nags you until you can only give up. This medications stops that voice and gives you control over your body back. 37:45 "Eating less crap because they don't want it" - Yes! This is the weird thing my family also is surprised with. I'm a 6'1 dude and ate lots of things, now I'm choosing salads because the thought of downing a Pizza like I always did when we ordered food disgusts me. Now an Italian salad still isn't the best choice with all the sauce they put on that but better than a whole Pizza I ate before and I can't imagine myself ever eating again. I can maybe eat one piece of it but after that my stomach protests telling me to stop eating that crap. 50:35 "Change your habits" - I don't agree. If it were that easy, everyone would do it. The problem is that something is not working correctly and the medication opened my eyes personally, like when I started to notice, I'm not thinking about food all the time instead of thinking what I am going to have for lunch the whole drive to work. I thought: Oh, that's what a normal person feels like, you don't have to think about food all the time? If I always felt like that, I too wouldn't be able to understand overweight people and just tell them: Just change your habit bro.
I have been on Sema-glutide peptides for around a year and a half. Also was taking metformin but don’t really need it anymore. Bp was elevated but is back to normal…. I have lost almost 40 pounds and I eat way less in portions than i used to. I take the stuff from a compounding pharmacy , but it costs about $600 for Rx which lasts about 5 or 6 weeks…. Can’t continue the cost anymore …. I’m a post menopausal 60yo female. I only had some mild side effects which pretty much go away next day after a dose, or I don’t get any side affects at all. This has really jump started my journey to better health…. But soon I will stop and need to continue to do well without it…. In the end you need to make the lifestyle changes or you will pay for prescriptions forever lol. This did help to change my habits but we will see if I can do okay once the peptides are out of my system.
@@dawnwolff2050 I live in Europe, I get it prescribed and since I got diagnosed with diabetes I get it on my insurance for the rest of my life so there aren't any additional costs for me. Even if I lost my job (which is unlikely as a civil servant) my insurance would be paid by social security so I'm on it for the rest of my life. If nothing better comes around.
More of these conversations!! It's so great to hear a long form discussion from individuals that have opposing views! It's such a great reminder that somewhere in the middle is usually the best place to be!!
I have worked as a nurse 25 years, nurses and doctors almost always recommend lifestyle changes, patients have trouble getting the appropriate food, the food that is available is highly addictive, GLP 1 meds address the intense food cravings. I agree maintaining muscle mass and in changing diet, but the medication is an important component to combat the food craving and get back to metabolic health.
Much bigger social issue than just diet and drugs: US Ag subsudizes 2 crops: corn (corn syrup) & soy. Food deserts and neighborhoods unsafe for kids to play outdoors and schools who can't do outdoor recess for same reasons. Schools' athletics funded by soft drink companies in return for their vending machines placed in those schools.
And I’ll throw in one more: we’re not getting good nutrition advice in general. We’re being taught we can eat whatever we want as long as we burn it off. It doesn’t work like that.
I agree, we must change the way we eat. No fast processed foods, eliminate refined sugar from our diet. I am a 67 and have struggled to maintain a healthy weight after menopause. My metabolism was out of whack. Every year I have gained 5lbs, even though I don’t drink soda and I tried to eat healthy and exercise. January 2024 I was considered morbidly obese teetering at 200lbs. My A1C was 7.5 when my doctor prescribed Glp1. For me this is a miracle. In 5 mos my A1C is down to 5.6, I have no more swelling in my feet/ankles. I have energy to actually strength train and I am no longer addicted to sugar and carbs. I have had 0 side effects but I also have stayed at a lower dose. The only side effect I experienced so far, I lost 35lbs.
Definitely one of the most Relevant conversations and debate for our times!!! 👍👍👍thank you so much Doctor Hyman and your guests... These conversations need to be had all over the world. 👏👏👏
One thing that wasn't mentioned is the effects on mental health on people like myself. I have worked out for years, eating a healthy diet, and would always like to be 10 pounds lighter. Seeing so many women with bodies that were like mine, taking ozempic and are now incredibly thin, messes with my thinking. It is frustrating for people who are in our 60's, healthy, but not skinny. Our society values thinness for the sake of being skinny over health, and I feel like this is just another piece of this, adding to the feeling of not being good enough.
10 pounds is not a health issue, though. It's in your mind. I'm 30 pounds overweight, have tried everything other than drugs, and I've had to admit this to myself. I'm healthy. I wasn't born with the genetics to be thin. It's not going to happen, but my health is way more important than looking slender.
I'm in my 60s and I think I (women) look better with a few extra pounds. When I'm thin I look unhealthy. I'm not advocating obesity. But an extra few pounds fills out my face. I feel better than when I'm too thin. Just my observation.
Carnivore diet does two thing: no carbs/sugar and plenty of protein! Low carb diet with high protein is great also. Both diets with walking or other exercise for muscle tone.
Corruption has slowly gotten a grip on our government through special interest groups, it shouldn’t be allowed anymore, but I see we are turning around for the better with the truth awareness you spread,❤❤ thank you much
So informative. I absolutely enjoyed this conversation. What I found interesting is the mention of peptides. I'd love to explore this more in our next edition. So thank you for mentioning this. On another note, prescribing children Ozempic is simply the saddest thing, and a band-aid on the growing obesity epidemic in America. Schools, government platforms, parents, should al be responsible for the nutrition of children.
I really liked Dr. Moore's balanced perspective and her desire to help people to get some suppport in getting momentum in eating a balanced diet and exercising more. I think she offered a very wise, pragmatic, and informative approach to this discussion.
Casey is his sister who is an MD trained for surgeries ! So, though she has a specialty-MD degree she seems to have changed her business model more to the Internet-of-healthy-stuffings.
& I hr. 47 min. Dr Tyna ! Right on the money! Thank you ! You summed up my 2 comments Below! I'll be searching for and online Dr. /Compounding since my income probably wouldnt afford some one like you! Thanks
PharmD here sober 8 years. The same tools we use in recovery could be used to teach people healthy mindful relationships with food and supportive communities😊
As a menopausal woman with PCOS and tons of chronic conditions that go with it, Calley Means was really making me angry. Yes we know food and environment caused this, but we don’t have the individual power to solve this problem. I have done Ultrametabolism for years and keto for years as my insulin resistance got worse. I still weigh 100 lbs more than I should. My body systems are broken and glp1 agonists are the only real hope I’ve ever had. I feel like he is wearing blinders, can’t understand the mechanism of these meds. He’s just anti big pharma.
I think it's hard for a person, like calley means who have never experienced problems to relate. It's so easy to just say eat less and move more. How had that worked so far, lol
agreed. When I 1st went to the Dr and was diagnosed with PCOS I was not overweight. Everyone said eat clean and exercise. I WAS. I once even trained for an Olympic team sport. My body broke and NOBODY listened.
Totally agree - now menopausal after a hysterectomy, my body is completely impossible to control in every way and feels like I’m inhabiting someone else’s. It doesn’t work anymore, inflammation up, homocysteine high, weight gain, pain etc etc
I don’t eat sugar, grain, or processed food. Haven’t for years. I had Lyme and then immediate mold exposure. We got terrible mold illness CIRS. I gained 100lbs overnight with no other changes aside from stress. My bloodwork went CRAZY and everything upside down even on my healthy diet. We even order our meat, eggs, and veggies from local pastured farms. Our lives fell apart. Detoxing and treating illness has not helped and I don’t even look like the same person. I’m doing my research here because I’m going to an endocrinologist and I know they will offer it. I agree they feed kids awful, but we sent our kids lunch every single day. He doesn’t eat sugar or bread either. No preserved or cured foods. He doesn’t have the taste for sugar and junk like his friends do. Yet 100lbs weigh me down. I’m sick of society looking at me like I did this to myself.
Calley is exactly right about doctors being complicate with all of this. He's also right that pharmaceutical want the kids. Anyone who works in mainstream medical knows this is true. The standard of care has to be followed as defined by AMA and CMS otherwise insurance doesn't pay.
I tried this medication and couldn’t handle the nausea as the dose increased. At the time I was so sad because I loved the “calm” of never thinking about food. I have recently decided on my own to try it at a low dose cycling on and off of it. It helps me remember that while I do have a food addiction that I also have the ability to maintain control of the addiction. It has helped me regain control of my exercise and diet regime. I’ve been telling everyone I know with weight issues who got their dr to prescribe the medication for weight loss (not diabetic) to only use it at a low dose just to help them realize the food issues they may have- but to plan on it only being a short term thing. I’m so happy my natural instinct is proving to be a good idea! I fully agree with what Tina is saying! I do a week of rybelsus once every few months, I do weight training 5-6 days a week and joined a sport that I play almost everyday. If I hadn’t tried this medication I don’t think I would have understood the food addiction side of things and I don’t think I would have regained control of my life. There’s no magic pill, but this medication HELPED me regain control of my life and for that I will be forever grateful.
I think my dr soon is going I’m diabetic and prescribe mounjaro or Ozempic to me, and should she do so, I’ll ask her a refill on ondansetron which is an anti-nausea I’ve taken in the recent past for GERD which gives me terrible nausea sometimes.
I’m 53 and was super fit. Had several years of medical issues and gained 86 pounds in a year. I could not lose weight despite a keto diet and hours of weekly exercise. Hormonal balance, complete elimination of processed foods and seed oils as well as four days of cardio and resistance training is what finally helped me lose weight. I’m fifty pounds down and counting.
Thanks for a great conversation! Two against one though... For two people "not advocating for ozempic and beeing no fans of big pharma", they do do an awful lot of defending "not drugs, but peptides" 😂 Awsome job standing your ground Calley Means!!!🎉
@@KimmyGuitar His sister is the author of the book, and she is a doctor. Casey Means. She has done a lot of podcasts about metabolic health. He worked for Big Pharma and knows a lot about what goes on. Listen to his interview with Dr Anthony Chaffee
@@KimmyGuitar He made lots more money when he worked with pharma & Coca-Cola. Very few people get rich selling books these days. He’s on a mission and we need more voices like his.
I have spent 30 years trying every diet I could find. Tracking food religiously, exercising daily, weight training, caloric deficits, keto, paleo, low carb, organic, grass fed, pastor raised, no processed, on and on. I eat clean. I am very physical and I kept gaining g weight, not losing. I started low dose compounded tirzepetide and I have lost 40 pounds. I don’t feel like I have lost the desire to do fun things. I’m happier than I have been in a lot of years. My insulin level was very high when I started and I have come down to a much more normal level. I eat basically the same as I did before. This peptide has changed something in me physically. I only use it every two to three weeks now and plan on spacing even further in the future. I have had very little of the side effects. Barely noticeable. For me it has been a life saver.
Calley Means lacks a great deal of insight as well as sensitivity and I am curious what his credentials are to be teaching anyone anything. Thank you Dr. Tyna Moore for the thorough, well researched, innovative work that you do and for standing up to this bully as well as the norms of the medical community, we need more practitioners like you!
A bully??? I see him as someone who is passionate about what he believes in. I am the same about the crazy world of big pharma and certain Dr's only prescribing quick fixes and not explaining the side effects. Not all Dr.s but alot.
Calley Means graduated from Stanford undergrad and Harvard Buisness School. His sister is Casey Means who graduated from Stanford Medical School and a practicing MD. Calley Means founded TrueMed and Casey Means is a Co-Founder of TrueMed. *There’s a lot of information on Calley Means. It’s not hard to find. The only bully at the table was Tyna Moore. She was incredibly rude to Calley. *Ozempic has many possible side effects such as paralysis of the stomach, and suicidal ideation. I don’t know which is worse …your stomach no longer able to process food or create serotonin , or wanting to kill yourself.
Thinking that low dose is a bridge is great, but as Calley says, the habits don't tend to change. I can see that if it can help a person to have lessened their pain, they will likely start to move more. Being someone with RA, but no weight issues,I know that I'd move more if it didn't hurt so darn much! If my cartilage can begin to regenerate, I'll start moving more.
If you are too rigid in your thinking you will miss great opportunities to help yourself. I appreciate Dr Tyna for advocating for those in need of help. It’s not just about weight loss, it’s about your overall health and helping people get there. We don’t live in a world of “just eat healthy and workout” that helps people heal their metabolic health.
The prescribing of statins is also giving people the false sense that they are okay eating bad diets, when they need to change from highly processed food to whole real foods and exercise. Doctors need to get onboard with prevention instead of just prescribing.
I went to a new dr last month. I am female, 57 and 20lbs overweight but have been eating at a caloric deficit, lifting weights 4x per week. I am hoping to do some body comp to help prevent muscle and bone loss. I lost 13 lbs from March to May at the time of this appt. I asked for help to better improve my diet, etc in case what I was doing needed improvement. The very first thing out of the dr mouth was “You could take Ozempic. My diabetes patients have done very well with it”. I was so shocked, I know my mouth dropped open. I responded - it’s 20lbs more to get to my ideal body weight - I’ve just lost 13…I’m not taking drugs. He says he didn’t know anything about nutrition that he could refer me. Then said that’s what he does - he prescribes medication. He then looked at my bloodwork and went on to say my LDL is high he wants me to go for more bloodwork and come back in 3 months. My LDL IS 140. I had already dropped it from 240 from the yr before but he didn’t want to hear that. I understand that people may need medication. I don’t agree that it should be the first course of treatment unless you ascertain what is causing the problem. Not once did this new dr ask me about my lifestyle, predispositions, etc. first thing to do is get on Ozempic.
This was a fascinating topic that sparked a lot of thought. While the discussion was engaging, it seemed at times like there were differing viewpoints being presented. Dr. Moore's perspective differed from Calley's, and the conversation could have benefited from allowing each person to fully express their ideas without interruption. For a productive group discussion, active listening and allowing everyone to finish their thoughts is important. I found Calley's position more aligned with my own thinking.
I am 75 years old and went for my first blood test of my life. My last physical was in 1969. The doctor asked if I smoked. That's it. Didn't ask what I ate, how I slept or if I exercise. I told her I fast and she said "Why would you fast?". No paperwork for the blood test. Just a call saying my cholesterol and LDL are a bit high. It was a joke. Guess I'll wait another 55 years for my next physical.
Regular mds are utterly useless. Going for a yearly “ checkup” frankly is a total waste. They test almost nothing. Best to just get your own blood test the. Read it or hire a real knowledgeable person to read it. My wife gets a blood test with 200 markers read by a functional medicine doc. Md said he didn’t know 90% of what the tests meant. That said it all. Func doc caught stuff regular md never knew about.
Why did you go? Once 93 years old lady came for check up first time , healthy living with her brother, the young primary care doctor told her please go , don’t come back as your health will be ruined, please don’t tell any body I told so . She asked why? He told her will lose my job as my mother medical doctor did ,asked her to resign. True story.
Medical experts for treating diseases not preventing diseases. This is what they teach in medical schools. This is a fact. We are responsible for our health and safety.
I just wanted to establish a doctor of record. At 75 years I have never had a prescription. I still wear a 29" waist jeansike I did when I graduated High School in 1967. Never had acid reflux, headaches, bloating, arthritis or any problems except eye glasses and routine dental work. I feel exactly like I felt when I was 18 years old. I am Apoe2.
Let me guess. Your physician was likely overweight.😮
I will be forever thankful to my parents who deprived me and our household of soda growing up.
Coca Cola was a treat I had when I visited my great aunt once in awhile and the only time we really had candy was on Halloween and maybe at the rare movie.
I did this with my girls on soda... They were allowed one on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Most the time they forgot about it because they were not addicted to them because they didn't drink them during the week. Now they don't really drink them much and they are grown and gone.
Furthermore, my dad had me a sip of beer as a child because I was so persistent, I remember how it tasted so bitter and was truly disgusted by it. That's why I never like any form of alcohol now as an adult.
Hardly drank any soda and still don't drink it yet have always had a sweet tooth and found almost no correlation between the two
Thankful we were too poor to afford those things. Honeysuckle flowers were our candy.
I was on Ozempic for 3 years. Went from 230 to 180lbs. My A1C went from 11.0 to 4.8. My fasting glucose reading was at 300. Now its 89. I have not been on Ozempic for a year now. I have not gained any weight and my sugar is still at 4.8/89. Ozempic taught me how to eat again but it def killed my cravings. That has been the hardest part of being off of Oz. You don't have to be on it for the rest of your life but you do have to change your life if you want to change perm
Glad you wrote this! I’m about to start ozempic and I hope my A1C goes down!
So what if I have to take a once a week shot till I die. I’ve lost 75 lbs and the change has been wonderful. High cholesterol is gone. I’ve reduced my diabetic meds and blood pressure. I have no sugar cravings. 71 years old and now feel fantastic. Jumped to Tirzepatide to lose a little more. Obviously you guys haven’t used what you’re talking about.
@@buzzcory8128 exactly. The benefits 100% outweigh the risks. Its been out now for roughly 4years and they keep finding additional benefits and NOTHING bad has come out (yet). When entire industries like food and diabetic aftermarket are blaming their loss of profits on this, you know you're on to something 🎉
When you got off ozempic, did the hunger and cravings come back stronger?
The cravings came back, eventually but now I recognize and immediately distract myself. Ill go garden or design. It took a long time but i was able to do it @@sarahshanahan2222
I’m 73 years old - I was in severe constant pain; I couldn’t move my head nor bend. Over 8 years ago diagnosed with chronic severe degenerative arthritis- told “nothing to be done” I Got cervical fusions with titanium etc also lumbar fusions too. I had 2 small strokes & much more that I won’t get into. Decided to change my life - went from keto- eventually to carnivore. I’m so well. The plethora of meds - now in the bin. I no longer take any meds. I walk miles daily. I’m at the best optimal weight ever - and ever so well -- and have been for over 5 years.
So glad to hear this because I just started carnivore about two months ago. Lost nearly 20lbs without trying - though I needed to.
channel Dr Ken Berry "carnviore for beginners", "carnivore flu", electrolyes' = worth your time. other carnivore channels: Home stead how, kelly hogan, shawn baker md podcast, no carb life, dr chaffee.
Carnviore heals the body, brain, immune system!! It WORKS.
sounds more like you took a bunch of rx's and as you quit them you got better
@@jazziez6467 👎 nope 👎
So happy for you! I just started keto 5 days ago for treating PCOS. I have keto-flu symptoms pretty bad... any advice?
As a school lunch lady I know first hand how poorly we nourish kids at school.
Having to follow the government food guidelines, which require grains, vegetables, fruits, meat, milk. Believe me, the meat is minimal and usually contains sauces and gravies, which stretch the amount and add sugar and seed oils. The fruit is canned also containing sugar. The breads , which we do make fresh each day, yet made with shortening, sugar and flour. Breads also often times are bread sticks covered with margarine and spices. Vegetables are canned ( often sweetened) or frozen to which is added margarine and salt.
Then there’s dessert which we usually make from scratch, but again more shortening, sugar and if it has fruit it’s sweetened.
Beverages served are milk, white and chocolate ( and of course most children choose chocolate MORE sugar) and fruit juices ( MORE SUGAR). The meals are extremely high in carbohydrates! Extremely high in sugar! It fills their belly’s with basically no good nutritional value at all!! It breaks my heart
Funny how we continuously give billions to other countries but can't provide for our own.
WOW. That is awful.
What you know is compelling evidence on why kids are overweight and depressed. Please be the strongest voice you can muster to bring everyone the information that you absolutely know intimately. What we feed our kids is terrible along with patients in hospitals and nursing homes. Keep speaking up! Thank you!
Yes it is. The school system is helping to addict children to sugar/carbs.
@@bonnievicari9167 everyone knows how bad school lunches are. Even if they don't understand that food can be bad. No one went to a lower end school and said "Damn this is gourmet food" though you get like any keto UA-camr rewriting a low budget menu it would be better than 90% of restaurants taste wise.
Tyna Moore is clearly making the most logical argument here. I wish she were my doctor!!
The other guy talks about all the bad side effects, then she replies "Not at a lower dose." A few minutes laters, the cycle repeats.
That’s because Calley Means (the other guy) owns True Nutrition, and peptides, especially semiglutide, are getting in the way of his profits big time these days.
"It's the food stupid". Sounds to me like she is giving it out like candy, to everyone, except in low doses. Just eat the right foods.
She is so compassionate and educated❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@eslom1489goodness thank you . This should be common sense
WHY IS NOBODY ASKING THIS QUESTION: If Ozempic slows gastric emptying to such an extent that food is sometimes still in the stomach days later, is it even physically POSSIBLE for a patient to digest the required amount of protein in a day to avoid muscle loss? Everyone keeps saying Ozempic is safe so long as you exercise and eat enough protein, without asking if their bodies can even digest that amount of protein while on the drug.
Interesting question! I had to think a bit on this, and tho I'm no expert, in general, people are eating a lot less on these meds, so the total amount of food is much less. Many people are eating less carbs, since they aren't as appealing while on Ozempic.
@@jonischneider5244 rubbish! i belong to an Ozempic etal fb group and there has never been any stories or experiences of folks throwing up maggots. you do know the body is a sealed unit, that does not let flies in! stop with the fear mongering!
That is a side effect of an inappropriately large dose. This is addressed many times during the video.
@@laraderksen4297 yes! Plus, Tirzepitide doesn’t has the same rate of side effects as Semiglutide. Many people with nausea take Tirz if they have nausea.
Can't get my head around taking any meds. It's not natural to take meds.
Will end in tears for sure.
Registered Nurse here. This topic is so interesting and the time has come for Americans to advocate for their health. If you wait for the Medical community to catch the train, you’re late already!
Yes, Europeans have much more say. They have NO GMO's.
Nurse here! 100%
@CoollezVegasRFK does! He was the first to speak out against Covid bs!!
@@DianaMarie23051👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
100%
Thank you Tyna for your expertise. I’ve had a normal BMI my entire life. Hit my 40s and went through menopause early, and I have hashimotos. I’ve always exercised and ate healthy my whole life. I started gaining weight, had no energy, body was always hurting, depression. Tried everything…..no sugar, no gluten, keto, carnivore with no results. My dr prescribed the lowest dose 2.5mg of Zepbound (tirzeptide). It has changed my life. I lost the 30lbs I had gained over the last 4 years. Have more energy, healed my gut, no more hot flashes. We are now lowering my thyroid medication. I take a 1 week off each month. Loved hearing Tynas perspective. Wish they would have let her talk more.
Similar story here. Congratulations!
Why did you chose to take tirzeptide over semaglutide?
@@bodyfirmfitness3534 no specific reason….my dr actually prescribed semaglutide (wegovy) but it wasn’t available so he chose Zepbound. I’ve been happy with tirzepatide so I’ve stuck with it. I’m using compound tirzepatide now cause of the shortage and cost of Zepbound. I’ve heard great things about semaglutide. I’m sure it’s very comparable.
I can see it from each of their perspectives. Tyna is talking very specifically about set circumstances where the conditions are tailored to the patient. Hyman is open more to the idea of it being natural within the body and likely offering some benefits but knowing the limitations are important. Calley is looking at this from a pharma/food insider and understanding their motives, he is concerned about the longer term affects on the average patient, knowing most don't have doctors like Tyna and Hyman who will take the time to tailor solutions. They all have valid points.
Well said
This is an underrated comment, and exactly how we should be watching this. Love the mindset of Mark and Tyna, but Calley knows the incentives and economic models of big food and big pharma. He knows how the game is played.
This is exactly the kind of discussions we should be having.
Valid point but I'm 71 with prediabetes, heart failure, renal failure, vascular disease, MI, multiple blood clots. I'm down from 178 to 160 and living my best life. I'm not worried about long-term side effects.
I take Tirzepitizide 2.5 mg every 10 days. Low and slow.
My mom is using Monjouro and she has lost 120 pounds. She needed a leg up to get a kick start on this journey… she felt helpless for decades… she is keto now also.. but these drugs are not a solution if there is no lifestyle change…
Exacto mundo! Ozempic is only a short term fix. Sooner of later you have to address the real problem which is diet and lifestyle.
Has she kept it off? And still on monjouro?
@@deborahbaca1345 she has kept it off but is still on lowest dose every two weeks. She made a drastic dietary change.
Did she have adverse side effects?
BINGO!
My inflammation went away after 5 weeks. I've been going to every doctor, taking every medication that doesnt work for 7 years. Now I feel great. The weight loss is the added bonus. I feel great.
Cally obviously thinks everyone is the same. I appreciate you Mark and Tyna, you get people like me. Thank you for helping us!!! We need the help and support. Thank you!
Some people need to understand that addiction is often stronger than the will to live. Junk food is addictive, that is pretty well accepted. Getting off of junk food can be like getting off of heroin. Thank you Dr Hyman for understanding that there are so many sides to so many issues.
Absolutely!!! Can you imagine if people could go to rehab to get off sugar???
SO true!!! Struggling for many years to manage consistent, healthy weight, I once prayed to lose the desire for fast foods! Thankfully, I don’t eat them anymore.
I enjoyed their conversation.
I haven’t eaten ‘junk food’ in 20 years. No pizza. No soda. No chips. No artificial sweeteners. I garden and cook daily. I think that some obese people fall into the habit of eating junk food because diets don’t work for 95% of people with obesity, so they say, “to hell with it - who cares? I might as well eat what I want”. I refuse to eat that stuff because I love myself. However, just because i eat clean doesn’t mean that it’s a magic pill to treat my obesity. Obesity is a disease. Medication helps. A lot. It also isn’t a cure, but it helps to manage it.
@@LeahBrooksJeremiahGardens "Junk" food is cheap. McDonald's nasty hamburgers are MUCH cheaper than using electricity to cook overpriced food. It's not always about habit. It can be about convenience, money, and a lot of other factors. :(
I started this 4 weeks ago. I have Hashimoto’s. I have normal blood pressure, A1-C, and cholesterol. I eat mostly Whole Foods. I never felt hungry. I started this and I feel like a different human. I have bone on bone knees and a bad hip. All need to be replaced. My first shot was on Saturday night at 8:30. I peed all night. Woke up and could take my rings off. I had lost 5 lbs of water/inflammation, all my pain is gone. I finally feel hunger which allows me to know when I’m not hungry. I feel 20 years younger, I’m 62, and my foggy brain is gone and my depression is gone. It has truly been a miracle! I feel hope! I’m also only taking .25 and I don’t plan to go up! I am 5’8” and 289.4. I have not weighed myself yet, but I know I have lost weight.
You could do all that on a carnivore diet lifestyle, without drugs, without side effect (except better health) and without drug expenses!
@@ronaldpobuda835 I like the carnivore diet but it’s very hard to eat meat only and pretty expensive in todays economy
You're going to love it. Drink electrolytes and have magnesium on hand for constipation. My inflammation went away the fifth week.
@@ronaldpobuda835 so uneducated. Bad advice. Unfortunate!
@@Lanamarri36712 I spend less on food on carnivore. Meat is so much more nutritious that you dont eat as much volume of food. shop sales on meat. I use a good amount of ground beef and have 2 to 6 eggs a day.
Dr. Tyna Moore's information is great. Her take on GLP1 was new for me and was presented in a clear and concise manner. Her skill as a practitioner who is able to think out of the box and advocate for her clients was on full display and
refreshing.
Definitely a different voice than the usual...!
She’s fantastic. Very informed, nuanced, and patient-centered approach.
It’s a shame that this two doctores don’t let Tyna talk ! Tyna talks for less than a minute and then she gets cut off for 5 or more minutes .
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@@aluxmanexactly. Very annoying. Men = bullies
@@aluxman I fully agree. I was so fascinated with what she was saying about microdosing GLP1 and I even convinced my Dr. to prescribe it to me at a compounding pharmacy!! I am here to watch the video again so I can figure out more about exactly how she does this.
As a non-average American, with mold toxicity, autoimmune, hormone imbalance, POTS, etc., I really appreciate Dr. Tyna and Dr. Hyman sharing their knowledge! I need help getting back to homeostasis, and it’s been SO hard. This gives me hope, which I also need. I agree with the young man that America’s food system and pharmaceutical system is corrupt, but as someone who isn’t able to exercise (used to be three sport athlete & trained for a half marathon) I need help getting back there. Thanks for this podcast! Great listen!
Try carnivore for 90 days, you may be very amazed at how you feel and the improvements you experience. Learn on UA-cam from doctors Berry and Chaffee. Good health to you!
This guy Mark just LOVES to hear himself talk. Let the lady speak!! She's a Dr. AND VERY WELL INFORMED!
He can encapsulate his point in a few sentences, but he keeps repeating his point during this interview. Too much passion combined with little scientific research. Shades of RFK Jr
Agreed. He has no studies tp back up and no practice! Sorry Dr. HYMAN he is not a good resource
Ohh so him telling you to stop eating trash food is bad? Keep eating your trash food and taking your shot no one gives a crap!!
Btw most Drs are absolute idiots and they have proved that in the last few years!
Mansplaining
I have never commented on a podcast but I want to thank you for this. I am a 50 yr old female who had a normal high BMI at 24 and couldn’t find a functional doctor for insulin resistance and brain fog. I went to a medispa for bioidentical hormones and the doctor there recognized my metabolic disarray. I already eat reasonably clean but she convinced me to try semaglutide to help with the insulin resistance and high ldl and bp. I did drop some weight but very slowly and took lower doses to help with the inflammation. She also put me on testosterone cream but my world changed. I can think clearly and I have maintained my muscle mass. There is definitely a population of people perhaps like me this can help and I haven’t heard anyone talk about this. The sad thing is the absorbent cost that stretches my budget but I don’t plan to be on for life but to try to see how I can manage how I feel. My wish was there were more cost effective ways to help the population and more functional physicians out there to help. My Medispa doctor is wonderful but she doesn’t do what you do.
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exorbitant, not absorbent, cost
@@wme3tvnexusdon’t waste time correcting others. 🩷
Did the doctor try the micro-dosing of semaglutide or a regular dose? What is the specialty of the doctor you saw?
Curious where you went.
Both arguments make sense to me. As a dietitian it is clear to me that people need this. Behavioral changes simply aren’t happening. However how will we ever be forced to improve our food system if we have an endless supply of quick fixes to accommodate our broken one?
Calley made some excellent points early on in interview but as it went on it became very clear that he is blinded by his ego, lack of humility and desire to be right and prove his stance, even in the face of clear and concise evidance that contradicts him. I am a 36 year old who has been dedicated to fitness all my life, avid weight lifter for over 10 years, i eat a high protien healthy diet, but also have been highly addicted to junk food my whole life, it a bad....BAD way. I started using semiglutide as a "Leg up" and it has helped tremendously. For the first time in my life i have control over my diet. If you have ever struggled with food additction you know what i mean. For me, adding semaglutide to my active high protien diet has been life changing. I hope Calley can be more open minded to the potential benefits
I don’t think Calley is blinded by ego but generalized facts and some immaturity. The personal experience is lacking, yet his warnings are relevant.
Exactly! He was hard for me to listen to. He seems so angry in his beliefs.
Loving Dr Tyna. I have followed her for a couple years. They both have valid points and I love these discussions. I get where Calley is coming from but i had the same idealism in nutrition until I was the one needing to lose weight. I was raised on all Whole Foods with minimal processed food and then after having my two kids I blew up and weighed more than when I was pregnant. Healthy foods, fasting, and all the usual options didn’t lift the weight. Then the disappointment makes you want to eat whatever you like if it doesn’t change how you feel and look. It’s a rough cycle. Calley just hasn’t been there.
This!!!
How about NOT eating? Have you tried that? That’s literally all glp-1s do.
@sellmav you should probably read up a bit more before you make an incompetent comment like this. Human anatomy is much more complicated than this. Try PubMed-
@@NikPitnikshe spot on...once you are perimenopause the cards completely change. Young women and male experts and doctors have not experienced this.
@@sellmav I have done a 10 day WATER ONLY fast and only lost one pound and no body .2% body fat (which measurement could have been effective by hydration status only). I have done a 3 day fast and GAINED. It's not as simple as eating less or not eating.
These two physicians do not live in regular America. We regular folks do not have doctors who take the time to ask questions and think of our best interests. Our doctors follow a script that they are given by their employers. This pie-in-the-sky utopia medical practice is not attainable for Us regular folks. Thank you, Calley, for standing your ground.
It’s not about them. A regular person can be develop self awareness about their health. If you are counting on doctor to tell you what is wrong you will most likely be suffering a long time until you find the one who actually cares. You are responsible for your health. You can do better by picking and choosing your food. By making sometime to walk or exercise. By practice proper breathing. It is not their job to teach you that. Are they responsible for not caring and thinking of the money? Absolutely, but at the end of the day, you are responsible for YOURself. If you are waiting for them to say «change your life still » when you know you should, you are the one responsible, sorry. It’s easy to put the blame on others and trust me I hate doctors and went through experiences, but I also know that no one is responsible for me, how I feel, what I do, how I choose to react to things. Because most people don’t care about anyone else, it’s best to care for yourself and that means taking accountability for yourself.
@@rawganismabsolutely 💯%!!!
@@rawganismHow condescending and your bias shows. Many people have been very responsible and done careful food awareness and breathing and exercise and still suffered for decades despite their very best efforts. And your condescending presumptions match those of most condescending doctors.
This guy
is so damn condescending 😮 He doesn't even recognize that Dr Tyna is part of the conservation!
@cornypinkuni9519 toughen up buttercup . This person is totally right It's all on you. That includes probably having to spend thousands of dollars out of pocket each year for health and anyone that says they can't afford it has got their priorities wrong. I have great insurance but I still spend $200 a month on a concierge doctor who's at my beck and call 24/7 and doesn't follow the corrupt insurance system. That said only me is going to fix my health You have to be proactive nowadays and that's what the message this person was trying to get across we lying on a doctor isn't going to get you anywhere especially in the system now
I just wanted to share this. I waited until I was 39 going on to 40 to have a child. My best friend at the time was a nutritional therapist. What we did was, in every phase of fetal development that was going on while I was pregnant, I was eating specifically to feed the growth stages. I was already rather healthy eating organic and at a decent weight… But I became hyper vigilant and focused on eating pristine to totally help my growing child inside of me. So whatever phase I was in, she would give me the list of foods to consume in helping aid a healthy growing fetus. When they took my blood work, you would think I was some kind of miracle or something! The doctor had never seen such beautiful bloodwork apparently? He said to me, you must eat extremely well and take very good care of yourself! He then asked me what did I eat and do. I also had bloodwork done after I delivered my baby months later and was told the same thing, they literally went out of their way to talk about how beautiful my blood work was. So to me, that’s a true testament of just how much our diets affect our overall health. My child was born so healthy. My delivery was amazing. I didn’t even have stretch marks… My doctor said that I should have more babies! I was already 40! There is definitely something to be said for eating a very clean wholesome diet.
This❤!
Wonderful post. I totally believe food can heal. Would you mind sharing the name of the nutritionist you worked with?
@@Ideasareeverything she does not have her business anymore, life took another road for her. She ended up going to work in hospice I will share another interesting fact about the power of diet. She took a man who was in hospice many years ago who was also a dear friend at the time, this was well before she actually went to work for hospice… she took control of what was going into his feeding tube as well as visiting with him often. I can tell you this, not only did she have him living a lot longer than they thought but, he had regrowth of his hair, his glasses actually lowered in prescription strength and his skin was beautiful. There is power and medicine in our food. I know she was giving him puréed salmon along with certain vegetables… It was many years ago, and the people around him were very diligent in keeping up with all of that. Very diligent about his feeding tube and keeping it clean… It takes research and diligence and sometimes just a total retraining of ourselves and we can be our own healers.
I really love the empathy both Drs have towards people that have really struggled. When you see people in front of you really struggling, you can’t help but to ask what can you do? ❤
Yeah. That was really nice to see.
I want to hear more from the female!!!!
Im not pro GLP1 but Calley’s approach is like telling alcoholics and addicts to quit drinking and doing drugs.
right lets medicate people instead
@itsmej87 you realize there are medications that save lives during overdoses of drugs. It's a risk benefit situation in every case so people need to stop generalizing medicine pharma bad.
While having to live in a world surround by their favorite drug and alcoholism beverages 24/7
You have to want to change. I was an alcoholic and carnivore saved me. Gotta have strong will power and desire. Got medication to detox and started my journey towards health and recovery. Couldn't be happier today
@jeredphillips3424 when the world is your enabler and you literally have to eat to live, it's a trickier solution in terms of losing weight. Add hormonal issues like pcos where people actually do keto or low carb and still struggle and you'd understand how these medicines could help. Coming from someone who's worked out and dieted since middle school. (You can see my page that I've been thin but not metabolically so).
I am on Tirzepatide, no side effects and immediately stopped having cravings for bad foods, I am a fibromyalgia patient and it’s helped my inflammation.
I have been in the organic and wellness space for 22yrs. I know all about good food exercise and have been on and off of extremely good habits.
It takes a full year to change your habits Perimenopause caused me to have a big appetite I gained 40lbs and I am now down 7lbs in two weeks, eating right, not craving sugar/alcohol I feel SO MUCH BETTER. Peptides are incredible and so healing and anti-inflammatory.
You know what people who have never been obese miss? They miss it every. Single. Time. It's not about eating less and moving more. It's about the food noise experienced by people with obesity. They also miss the chronic feeling of hunger and the inability to feel satiated. I just started taking Wegovy and overnight that all stopped. My self-control, my motivation, my drive did not change. I am the same person. I just don't wake up thinking about food. I don't feel constant hunger. I don't feel the need to keep eating after I know I've eaten enough. If I never lost another pound I would keep using Wegovy to just have the peace in my own mind. All of the sudden I am enjoying healthier eating and exercising. All of the sudden I am able to "eat less and move more" without feeling deprived. This is a turning point in obesity treatment. I agree that our food environment is toxic. If 30% of the population suddenly were eating smaller portions and eating healthier it would change our whole economy and ultimately our food environment. I am team semaglutide for sure. It may not work for everyone but it will change obesity treatment, and how we understand obesity and that is a very good thing.
Congratulations.
A lot of people talk about the ability to concentrate more without the constant cravings and hunger. I can see why they want people to stay on it for life. It almost sounds like OCD and the compulsive desire to wash hands and the like. No one wants to live with that feeling.
And fasting is also another option. You dont want to stay on wegovy for the rest of your life. Switch and use fasting as the next tool.
What I think you're missing is most people deal with "food noise", hunger, and cravings. These drugs come with a heavy price. Be prepared to lose your hair, not a little but clumps and clumps coming out, bald spots. These drugs have a horrifying side effect. Nothing is free. Don't gaslight me and tell me the hair loss is from "rapid" weight loss or a "shock" to the body. Some I have talked to say they don't care about hair loss until it starts to happen. It is horrifying.
@@SCharlesS fasting is probably the ONLY tool that was able to help me with food noise. And I felt great eating only one time a day. But it got to the point where I was still overweight and only eating one 900 calorie meal a day. I had to try eating every other day to lose weight. I think my problem was it is too difficult to get the minimum needed protein with fasting so I burned through all my lean tissue.
I started with keto diet for couple of years age. Now on low carb diet. After that I fasted hard core. Taking a break from fasting (just intermittent fasting currently).Have another ~30-40 lb to lose.
Thanks for you all!!! You all are amazing!!!
There is great information online-just have to try what works for you!!!
And say NO to drugs!!!
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Yes you should definitely say no to drugs but the peptides they are talking about sound very promising 😻
@Tyna thank you for your balanced approach. I am also a prescriber of GLP-1s which has helped numerous of my cardiac patients reduce their risk.
This drug was definitely demonized by someone who clearly doesn’t prescribe it. It’s also completely misleading that this is primarily used in pediatric patients as your opponent was fixated on. It’s a little fear-mongering which is reminiscent of certain news platforms.
I love your idea of micro-dosing as well as proof of fitness tracking. I have not had any major effects and nausea is not permanent.
It’s very hard for my patients to lose weight and reduce risk. This has been a great option.
Yes, we should fix our food supply and we should exercise daily.
Thank you for your wisdom and getting the correct information out there!
Can you point me in the right direction about the cardiac application? My boss is a cardiologist and I'd love to show him!
Oh ya, this dude definitely comes off as a republican. Be afraid, be very afraid 😂
I find the rigid, black and white, idealistic thinking of the young guy (Calley?) very trying. Love and am thankful for the approach of Tina and Dr. Hyman.
He’s not listening and responding to what is being shared in the conversation. He has his platform and sound bytes ready to go and is missing the nuanced points that are being made by everyone else.
@@marcus6332 Exactly. 😓
I'm glad I wasn't the only one annoyed with him
The interview would have been so much better without his annoying interference. He definitely had an agenda. Dr. Tyna Moore spoke from real life experience with her patients.
@@nomadicsoul8770 Exactly what I was thinking. He had nothing to say that was constructive or helpful to anyone.
It’s always refreshing to see intellectuals come together to discuss nuance information and still respect each other. The problem I have with Calley’s stance is that what happens when you are a Vegetarian (like myself) who uses food as medicine and exercises 7 days a week (I’m a Ballerina, runner, and Yin Yoga practitioner), yet, my hereditary high cholesterol doesn’t go away; therefore, rendering me as a lifelong recipient of my statin drug. Sometimes, people really have a genetic mutation, like I do, whereby my HDL is not operating properly since I was a kid. Therefore, statins were the solution, even though I worry that it is damaging my liver. What else can I do? As for Tyna and Mark, thank you for your knowledge. I will ALWAYS be your fan and virtual patient. I truly and highly respect you guys.
Tyna, thank you for being on this show today. It is obvious that you are VERY knowledgeable. I really learned a lot from you today. Calley, on the other hand, is out of his league here.
I disagree with those that say Dr. Hyman needs to talk less. Thankfully Mark creates incredibly useful and informative content that is a service to us all. I appreciate Mark's sense of humor, cheerfulness, the fact that he does not seem to take himself too seriously and his willingness to listen to opposing ideas. During this interview Mark had to reel Calley Means in as Calley did not seem to want to listen to Dr. Moore and came across as clearly agitated/angry.
The country and the world needs more doctors like Dr. Hyman (and Dr. Tyna Moore) who attempts to educate us about our health through diet, nutrition and lifestyle while introducing us to a host of different guest, doctors and specialists who do not always agree but seem to be fighting for the better good and to improve peoples health, quality of life and healthspan. Thank you Dr. Mark Hyman for your work, compassion and all the wonderful information you make available to improve our health and lives.
I don’t think Dr Hyman needs to talk less, but he does need to stop constantly interrupting his guests. He frequently interrupts and you can see it derail his guests’ train of thought. I get so irritated by it. But he’s got such valuable knowledge and insights!
@@dianemcq64 Agree. Don't mind listening to his ideas when he speaks alone, but when he has guests his interviewing skills need much work. He's very impulsive and interruptive. Highly annoying.
@@dianemcq64Dr. Hyman HAD To interrupt the one guy. That other guy spoke like he was setting congress straight from the moment he started talking. He seemed to have a black and white view, and looked at a “process” as being a flaw or worse yet a flaw or failure. Many of people who tune in are on those drugs. They need to get to a certain place to reduce them and hopefully eliminate them. I reduced one drug down to 25% and eliminated two as I learned things (mostly from UA-cam and not from doctors-with one notable exception) like resistance training while I have impaired mobility, fermented foods to heal my gut and to change my sugar addiction-because it is an addiction, foods that heal inflammation, how important things like nitric oxide are and why-it is a process of learning, implementing, and reassessing-then learning and implementing again and reassessing. When you step into the process, you do not dump all your drugs on day one. I would’ve had sky high blood pressure and a host of other problems.
On the contrary, I thought Dr Moore kept interrupting Calley!
Tirzepitide is now being hailed as (chronically) needed to treat the “chronic disease” of obesity
Grew up in 1960's with constant supply of tv dinners, tuna helper, chips, cookies, soda. My mom grew up during Depression where food was scarce so she made sure we were well fed with the latest advertised processed food. As an adult, I never changed my junk food eating, even with reports coming out that an organic whole food diet is necessary for good health and my diet was making me fat & sick. Fatty liver disease diagnosis after ultrasound in my 40's didn't stop my bad diet. Now in my 60's with autoimmune neuroinflammation that is immobilizing me. I cant turn back the clock but I can warn others to change your ways before its too late.
God bless you ❤
You CAN turn back the clock. A 90 day Elimination Diet using the Carnivore diet with time-restricted eating can be powerful. After that you may be able to ease up and eat more widely (Ketovore or Carnivore or Ketogenic) within the range of Low Carb High Fat ways of eating. Dr. Ken Berry has playlists on both Carnivore and Ketogenic diets that can help you get started.
Victim mentality will keep you from trying anything new.
Try carnivore
My mom also was born in the mid ‘30’s and with 8 kids and her dad died when she was 5, she grew up very poor, and when she married my dad, who had a good white collar job , she could buy all the food types she never had as a kid, lots of soda too.
Love hearing about how Dr. Moore incorporates this peptide into her life and her patients lives. Thank you.
Great Podcast. I'm on injectable Tirzepatide. Amazing what it has allowed me to fix. Diet and food choices are so much easier now. A few years back I was on multiple meds for heart and T2 diabetes issues, and now, over the last couple years, I have been able to remove all of those meds. Weight down, heart rate down, BP down, glucose down (amazing). I'm now working on improving the sleep. The next "big hurdle" is getting back to resistance training back into the mix. At 59 I know I have lost a good amount of lean mass and need to work to gain some of that back. When used correctly and not as a band-Aid, these medications can give you the push to move in the right direction.
I absolutely agree when you start gaining weight the your health can start spiraling downhill causing weight in the midsection causing heart attacks high blood pressure medication and so forth.if you're able to lose weight you could drop medications be more productive and be more active I don't know what the long-term side effects of this medication is but I think it can work wonders for a lot of people not everybody's overweight issues can be fixed I believe .I don't believe in one size shoe fits everybody.I'm overweight and in an elderly woman and I don't eat no snack food and eat only maybe one meal a day and therefore I store fat it's what I've been told what I do eat I store because if your body is not used to getting food they say it stores it but if that was the case my body should be used to it because they would say well I'm not going to get fed again so I'm going to hold on to this but after years and years of eating a approximately 1 to 2 ml a day if that true how do you still gain weight and that was my primary goal was not to spiral downhill and I see a lot of that happening once you gain weight you have health issues and then you're not able to be active can you develop high blood pressure can can steam from being overweight midsection weight can they say can cause heart issues and so on.. I have seen people that take this and they don't exercise and they lose weight I did not know it was a lifetime medicine and I'm curious about the future side effects because sometimes it takes years for a new things come out about medications but I think it would be a plus for lots of people there's women with in their 50s or 60s that lost hormones deficient their body doesn't lose weight as fast as a man that's been proven that women that's never been overweight become overweight at that age it's because we have deficiencies we start losing things in our body we have a lot of deficiencies in our food we need minerals we need vitamins hormones and a lot of people don't want to do hormone replacement it's been a study that can cause cancer and then I read there was a study after that that said it did not I'm looking into all that that's why this got my attention I feel like a lot of women are misdiagnosed untreated with antidepressant pills and I think that's the answer for everything once they get into these changes in their body I don't really see an expanded help for HRT because you know I don't think there's a lot of women that cared for it because of cancer causing issues about the research that I read that it they done another research after that that said that it did not that that was proven not to be quite so but I don't know how true that is but how it could be beneficial because most of the American people are overweight and is our food is it regulated like the people in the other countries? their diet is different and they are skinny .. I can see where a lot of women would turn to this in a crisis where they gain weight, they're just basically handed anti depressant and then you have to go through how many to the right one? trial situation a hit or miss you have to try different ones well who wants their brain chemistry messed with that much
You need to make sure your getting enough protein & try to eat like 3-5 times a day w/smaller portions, kind of like grazing, but of course w/proper foods such as: protein, vegs, fruit, dairy, etc. & you'll lose. Your right, eating once a day your body thinks its being starved & will store what it can.
I truly appreciate Tina and Dr. Hyman's approach. It is realistic, compassionate, and based on decades of working with people. Many need help making the big changes needed to keep the weight off. Obesity is a disease and needs a multi-faceted approach.
Obesity is not a disease. Obesity is based on the law of thermodynamics. Because people are not making good choices it is crippling our healthcare system. The expense of these drugs makes it financially unattainable as a society.
Something I noticed as a new mom is the clothing sizes. My kids are super active and eat pretty much only single ingredient foods so they are trim and vivacious. We consistently have to take in waists to accommodate their trim frames. But if I buy or put on clothes from when my husband was little? No issue. Children’s clothing even proves the point Calley is making.
I've just started Ozempic. My doctor is quite positive about the drug. I am a type 2 diabetic that has gotten my A1c down to 5.8. I still need to a bit more. I asked what she thought about using it for fatty liver disease. She said studies indicate that it helps. She wasn't pushy but very proactive in getting ahead of my health problems. I don't take metformin because I have problems swallowing them. My doctor said I might be able to get off of my high blood pressure meds and statins. I mainly follow a lowcarb diet. She encouraged walking and weight resistance training. As a diabetic I was approved for the drug. She said going to a compounding pharmacy is also available. So far I've noticed my pain in my whole body is lessening. That was the reason I was there for tests. I'll watch for the side affects but I'm glad she offered it. Also, while im not excessively overweight, I might loose some too. Ive lost over 30 lbs previouly over the last two years. I just cant seem to loose more, and part of the problem is i cant exercise effectively. I'm in too much pain. Some has to do with a previous back surgery and that was another reason for my visit. So...I think maybe we shouldn't be narrow minded but approach this cautiously. Im very glad she perscribed it. I was able to pick up weights for the first time with less pain. At least I'm progressing.
So my prayers for the good doctors out there that do speak out and do the right things that is not for their own convinience or profit while hurting the patient. Thank you Dr. Hyman. Keep being on the right side🙏
I appreciate the docs bringing up those of us that are doing alllll the things - and still don’t lose fat. I eat the protein, prioritize fiber, eat
Probiotic foods - and a supplement, prioritize sleep, resistance training with progressive overload, do functional fitness exercises, some cardio but nothing excessive, minimal processed foods, work to actively reduce stress, and I honestly have great labs (not insulin resistant ) and I am building muscle.,.. but it’s nearly impossible for me to lose fat (confirmed with DEXA scan ). I have to cut calories severely and when I do I no longer have the energy to do the exercise. Some of us just don’t have a simple answer.
I’m an educated person that has always cared about what I put in and on my body. Yet it remains extremely difficult for me. Yes most people aren’t putting in that kind of effort but I like the idea of micro dosing the med to help me deal with the hunger and reduced energy that comes from calorie restriction. And unless you have worked as hard as I have and lost zero fat - you might not understand
I understand. I'm a health coach and do all the things, but the weight just keeps coming. I'm changing up some hormones, and then we are going to start low dose semaglutide in August. I'm hoping it changes things since most of my peri to post clients are dealing with the same struggle.
You sound like me! All my life. Just listened to Dr. Cate Shanahan who talks about PUFA overload in our bodies. If you have this your body will NOT use your fat. Very interesting studies. Just waiting for her book to arrive.
I agree with Calkey Means. This reliance by the medical world on treating people with, and keeping them on drugs is keeping them sick.
I was diagnosed with afib, which I, believe, was from a long period of sleep deprivation. I did not want to go on drugs and blood thinner, the standard for this condition.. Since I had no other risk factors, and my afib was intermittant, my doctor agreed to let me not take the drugs. I had the afib for three years, had gone to a sleep specialist to correct my sleep habits, and studied what foods could trigger the heart rhythm to go off. I am happy to say I have not had any afib for six years, when I was told by specialists I would only get worse as I get older. I'm 67 and doing well.
I think it was just his pressured speech presentation that doesn’t help his creditability
Calley is right! My relative has been on Ozempic for over a year and his social media is filled with him eating everything in sight and pounding the alcohol. Nothing learned, nothing changed.
That’s wild
Perfect big pharma patient
That is not common for people on Ozempic. Just because one person miss uses it doesn’t mean every one of us does.
@@lisacrummett1279 Nobody should be using this poison.
That’s interesting. My friend is on it and can only eat 1/2 of a kids meal for lunch. And eats very little the rest of the day.
Another thing that you don't hear about is that it doesn't work for everyone. Your cousin might be one of those individuals.
Thanks for this! I understand Dr. Means, but take it from someone who considers herself disciplined and informed, I've tried everything. My weight yoyos, which I believe is pretty had on my body. I have high blood pressure for some unknown reason, maybe my 240 lb body? Now my cholesterol is high and my Dr. what to give me a statin on top of 2 blood pressure meds, enough! Something is off in my body. I fought taking weight loss meds cause I'm not a medication person. I eat well and exercise. I don't do soda and processed foods. I've added a GLP-1. It's helping me improve my lifestyle. No side effects. My BP meds have risks and side effects. I agree that the med isn't magic. Lifestyle has to be at the forefront. One month in, It's helped like you can't imagine. You don't know what it's like to constantly think of food or feel like you're not able to say no or sustain. Eating mostly plant-based for 3 months reduced some of the food noise but nothing like the GLP-1. I'm so encouraged. This interview HAS convinced me not to move up from my 2.5 dose to 5.0 as suggested after 1 month. Instead, I'll double down on lifestyle! The food industry took years to get us into this mess. It will take many more years but I think they'll fix it if we protest with our dollars. I'm protesting with my dollars, but I can't wait for them.💪🏿
I changed my lifestyle radically 4.5 years ago at age 57 and lost 70lbs. I started lifting weights and have transformed my life. However, it was not enough for me after a lifetime of abuse.
If I may ask, what issues remain,? If you still have problems and have discretionary income consider evaluation for enviornmentAl toxins which are everywhere.
Better late than never! Any positive lifestyle changes is definitely beneficial!
I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I’ve never had a problem with my weight. even after having 6 kids, I always went back to my pre pregnancy weight. The weight started to creep up after the birth of my 9th baby and really took off after my last pregnancy.(10th baby) I was hungry all the time and just couldn’t get enough food. I suppose I messed up my metabolism after a couple of years of yo yo dieting and strict calories restriction, followed by binging. I started a GLP1 medication in February and it has been amazing. My liver enzymes are in the normal range, my a1c is normal and the biggest shift for me has been my relationship with food. I WANT to eat healthy and I’ve been walking 3 miles a day, 5x a week. Im going to Walmart today and buying some weights to start strength training. I have full confidence that I can get off this medication. Before this medication, I had ZERO motivation to lose weight or exercise even though I was fully aware of how important it was. It has been life changing for me. I was almost scared away from it when I saw Calley Means on Tucker Carlson and I made up my mind to stay far away from ozempic or any weight loss injections. That was until my doctor reassured me that a lot of the horror stories were from people who weren’t being managed well. I trusted her enough to start my weight loss journey using Zepbound, and I’m so glad I did! My life is completely different. I feel like I have a new outlook on life. I hope if you’re on the fence about starting this journey, you find peace in knowing that so many people have been helped by it. 💕🙏🏽
I’m glad we can get 3 different pov’s on issues like this. Much appreciated Mark, Tyna and Calley.
Tyna is fabulous! So glad to see you partnered up for this❤
Psychologists like me know how to do behavior change, but we need to know what behaviors to change. I taught behavioral weight loss (calorie counting, food tracking, exercise) in the late 1980s. It didn’t work long term as it was too hard and too slow. Know what worked for me in my 60s? Intermittent fasting with no prescriptive diet. Lost 40 lbs, felt easy, kept it mostly off for 3+ years, helped to “unspoil” appetite. Now I’m in early stage of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, trying to reverse this with lifestyle before turning to meds-wish me luck.
Good for you! Look at iodine for Hasimoto's. David Brownstein MD has a lot of good information.
I reversed Hashimoto's using the book Thyroid Healing by Medical Medium. I was 45 and wasn't about to take any stupid hormones for life. I couldn't find one single knowledgeable doctor and then I learned the truth about how the body actually functions in Medical Medium books. You can actually reverse any condition and any "disease" using these books. Good luck to you! Intermittent fasting is dangerous because it makes your body run on adrenaline which feeds viruses like Epstein Barr which then drill into your thyroid and give you a thyroid condition
It doesnt work because there are chemical addiction to food that goes beyond will power. If someone cant diet to begin with they cant do intermittent especially if they have blood sugar issues
I absolutely love the micro dosage idea. For someone like me who trains at least theee times per week. I’m very much conscious of what I consumed. Believe it or not , I just want to loose 8-10 pounds that’s it. The weight I have been struggling since I had kids. I have the good habits and I always educate myself on how I can even do better. I love the fact everyone is highly educated on this podcast yet with their own opinions. Most doctors won’t listen for more than two minutes to a patient. So this is why I appreciate this information. I go and just tell the dr what I want .
That’s exactly my situation. I highly recommend taking a small dose to keep on track
I weight train 6 days a week and work 2 jobs with varying schedules as a single mom nearly 53. I'm in perimenopause and I'm looking into micro dosing this peptide to assist with the weight gain that has occurred despite changing nothing in my training or intake.
The young man spouting idealism needs to direct his venom toward the food industry for manipulating our foods and toward the plastics industry for poisoning our environment.
I've been an athlete my whole life and have always eaten well. I take supplements including probiotics. Doctors have done me few favors over the years and I would like the ability to control my own health outcomes.
Start maybe by taking TUDCA pills... Resets the liver... Gets rid of fatty liver and bieve it or not starts the weight loss ball to roll.... They r peptides in TUDCA.... Amazon sells them. Start 1 capsule a day... Up to 3....
You should know by when you are an athlete that the body adapt to situations. Micro dosing is still a pharma intervention with side effects. The metabolism change and adapts, so do your hormones.
That is one of the reasons why you have trouble with the weight management. Yes the food industry is lying. But with the right food choice and possibly a metabolic rest, hormone adjustment, training adjustment the weight management is better to handle. I say all that without knowing you, because everyone is individual, but there a some common nominator. Ans in my experience especially athletes doing those mistakes, by not considering the adaptation. I'm 65 and in a shape like in my 30ies and see people every day with problems you describe. No one of them need ozemspic. Because no one want to die because of the side effects.
Did you listen to her that the side effects are dose related and her patients don’t experience them (or minimal) at microdoses.
@@Mona-Faye yes, I did say I was looking into micro dosing.
@@Mona-Faye It can not be and is not micro dose, it is low dose. No one knows the long term side effects of low dose. Yes any effect or side effect is dose dependent. Thats how the body is working. But again: the question is always: why is the body not producing or working that way. That has to be addressed. Just to give the substance/ pharmaceutical doesn't solve the problem and we can not call it healing. Just because only the body can heal them self. It's about the WHY and not to stop when an intervention shows an effect.
This guy who is against big pharma (and we all are!) is SO closed minded and my impression he just wants to be right. I have been taking semaglutide for 8 weeks. I’m a 64 year old woman, 5’2”, with thyroid and cholesterol issues and have never been obese but over the years slowly gained about 30 lbs that I couldn’t lose unless I starve myself which isn’t easy to do. I also have worked out my entire life. This has been a game changer for me (semaglutide). I love my wine and believe it has been a culprit to my inflammation & weight gain. Guess what? I have no desire to drink now. If/when I go off this stuff, will my desires come back? Maybe! But I will say bad habits die hard and I will be much more cognizant about my wine intake in the future as well as what I eat in the future. I REALLY appreciate the gal talking about dosage control as my symptoms have been terrible and now I know it’s about dosage. Let me add I’m under no doctor’s care for this. Yup, it’s easy to get and I increased my dose on my own. Bad idea on my part. I care about what I’m doing to my body which is why I watch these shows to educate myself. I’ve lost 18 lbs in 8 weeks and want to lose 10 more and thanks to the doctors here I am changing my future doses so I’m not so sick. So my advice to the guy stuck on his opinion who doesn’t believe all the good it can and does do for people who are stuck, get over yourself. Please. Thank you for the great information.
It would have been nice to hear more from Dr. Tyna Moore on using this drug responsibly. I'm not sure what the other gentleman's name is, but if we don't hear all sides of an argument how can we be educated/informed? She was trying to explain how to use it and was constantly being cut off. I found this off putting. Two doctors explaining what to do and one person who is not a doctor over talking the explanation. I would be interested in hearing this again with stronger parameters for the 'debate'.
Listen to her on diary of a ceo. She explains it so well, and it's much more enjoyable to listen to that exchange than this one.
She also has her own channel, Dr Tyna Moore
Good health outcomes are a three legged stool: They depend on (1) access to healthcare; (2) Practitioners informed on best practices; and (3) engaged patients that comply with the care plan to include lifestyle changes. The difficulties are that their are failures across each.
This discussion is a perfect demonstration of different points of view at play by participants who are informed, passionate about their work. Discussing, debating and deciding is not so much about engendering agreement, but rather in creating a venue/process to illuminate the topic.
There is just so much (rightfully so in many cases) distrust in the medical profession after their treatment of people during & after CoVid, including promotion of a new, not properly researched solution (vaccines). The majority of the blame resides with pharma companies, but medical professionals should be asking more questions & discussing options with those of differing viewpoints. The above discussion is a step in the right direction.
@@janbishop5542 A reminder that in all things, we have to advocate for our health and become informed consumers. You would be amazed at how many practitioners do not prescribe plans of care in accordance with chronic disease protocols.
Good health outcomes are based on...
Avoid all doctors as much as possible.
Avoid all medication and find real cures. No 'management'. A CURE!
Avoid at all costs antibiotics and all medication.
Only life and death situations should be the only situation for meds...and see for other solutions.
Avoid elderly homes.
Avoid any institution.
Live in nature, simple, grow your own food.
Eat carnivore, keto, little veggies, only fruit in the season, herbs, healthy fats.
Avoid sugars, sweets, sweeteners, flour, additives, processed foods, unhealthy fats.
Move everyday.
Go outside in real light.
Developed social deep bonds that last.
Choose wisely a partner> only a lifelong partner.
Doctors are a nightmare.
This young man is speaking truth to greed and natural health. I pray that he stay safe ❤
When one person is saying “it’s not all good or all bad” and the other guy says “semaglutides are the devil”, I’m going with the rational thinking.
If you think there's rational decision making in your comment you're mistaken. It really depends on the givers of those two opinions. If the person saying they're the devil is a research endocrinologist and the person saying they're neither good nor bad is a below average IQ social media influencer I think you'd be dead wrong.
@@hogi99 are you claiming that that is the situation here?
It absolutely depends on who are making those statements, yes.
In the context of this video the guy saying they are the devil is not at the level of specialism you stated and the not all good/bad people are not uneducated.
He is like a Zealot. He isnt rational sometimes. I love his content but u gotta take it with a pinch of salt.
@@hogi99wow you’ve proved your own moronic point.
You’re just angry. Seek therapy
I didn’t need medication to lose weight. I used diet (carnivore diet) to get off all my meds, lose fat and excess water. Now I’m metabolically healthy at 50. Been doing carnivore for over 2 years
I was keto for 5 years, it is very difficult to sustain
I have been organic/ natural keto ten years. My weight loss has maintained . I am compact and muscular. It’s easy. I see how my extended family eats and realize most people have no idea how to eat healthy even though they think they do…..😮 I just live by example now. They get jealous but won’t change.
@FitforLife2024 good for you, however, most people find highly restrictive diets hard to sustain
Is Carnivore diet good for someone with high cholesterol?
@@soph8164yes
Started ozempic at 270lbs - Started ozempic and a Atkins all protein diet- down to 195lbs in just about 4 months - now gym 4 times a week with very light weights and Cardo-
Tyna Moore, you are fantastic Keep up the great work.
With regard to the segment of conversation on dopamine effects and “reducing pleasure across the board” - my experience with Zepbound is it reduces the compulsive quick dopamine fix urges and allows for more pleasure in myriad other activities in life. For the first time in my 55 years I look forward to exercising!
Super impressed with Dr. Tyna Moore and also Dr. Mark Hyman. I appreciate their command of the nuance and details regarding this topic. And also appreciated Mr. Calley Means perspective as pertains to the societal solution (macro) as opposed to the micro solution (individual).
A friend went on Ozempic five years ago and lost 30 pounds which would have been ok if he was over weight. He has been reduced to being frail, sedentary, and depressed. I wish more doctors knew about micro dosing.
This was such an interesting conversation…thank you.
You make a great point. Anyone above 50 should really want to avoid muscle wasting. It's called sarcopenia and a real issue. Semaglutide is an artificial fast track to sarcopenea.
OK so this one guy follows no instructions on semaglutide and the rest of us get tarred with the same brush!
He didn't bother to eat protein, weight train?
Gosh, I wonder why he continued taking it that long?
And 55 and perimenopausal. I had my first blood test in 14 years in September 2023 and discovered that I was extreme type two diabetic. That’s going from a belief that I was perfectly healthy. In response to that diagnosis, I have become the poster child of willpower, diet, and exercise not fixing the problem. I exercise about 150 minutes per day. I walk between two and 6 miles per day, I dance four times a week, I play tennis twice a week, and I strength train three times a week, this is a change I made and response to the diagnosis. I also completely cut processed foods out of my diet. I eat only whole, real foods that I prepare in my house - mostly organic, many locally sourced. I limit my carb intake. I get around 25 to 40 g of fibre per day. at my follow-up blood test in December, I had reduced my A1c by about 4.2, but my fasting blood sugar was still elevated and even with that large reduction in my A1c, I was still severely diabetic. I also had lost 16 pounds. And since then I don’t know my blood results yet, but I do know I haven’t lost even an ounce. Even with all the exercise, even with the careful diet even with the willpower - and I’m good at willpower because I used to have Anorexia so restricting intake is easy for me. I have to push back against the urge to not eat at all and force myself to get to 1500 to 1800 cal a day. I don’t take Ozempic, met Forman didn’t help me and it gave me very severe side effects so I don’t take that either, I’m doing this completely unmedicated. I will never take those epic, but I think there has to be more to the problem than just willpower, diet, exercise because I am on point on those things and I’m still fat and diabetic.
do 1 day fasting once a week on every 7th day. and start to integrate daily herbal teas which are known to prevent diabeties.
don't pay too much attention to the diagnostics. just listen to your body, listen to your own sense of well being. how do you feel on a daily basis should be your main trust.
by the way, you might still be eating something that have high sugar contents. the salad dressings, the sauces, the toppings? so many variables, but if yours is genetic somehow, only daily regime of the right herbs will balance the scales out.
We must advocate for our own health and insist on what we want when and get any and all referrals to specialists even though you will have to wait a long time for that to materialize! I had to haunt my primary weekly to get me an ent doc bc the submission of the referral took so long!! I have one now BUT now I can see the pressure to clear my known ent ailments will be mine to push for bc whatever stupid little playbook this specialist works from is not fully applicable to me bc when I questioned why I have itching and pain in my both ears his answer was the same >> bc he had only did one thing to my ears that to remove any ear wax! Fine but it also became his answers for my ears ailments! Why itching why pain and he never looked into my ears again on that visit! 15minutes to get an card scheduling a hearing test and a follow-up telephone call doctor patient f/up what the heck will that do??????? Now a follow up battle from me which is annoying as a patient its very frustrating
Highly likely it is the environment (toxins) such as in water, air, allergens, forms of plastics everywhere- in food, containers, makeup, shampoos, etc. It’s everywhere. Note: Even our healthy pets (I exercise my pets) are showing signs of diabetes and cancers…. According to Texas A&M vets, the highest rise in diabetes and cancers in our pets! And I cook and watch what my dogs and cats eat. As for humans…The FDA is looking the other way with loaded bank accounts. It’s not just sugars, it’s chemicals (secret laboratories 🧪 additives) that the govt doesn’t tell us about.
Maybe carnivore or keto diet? Has helped my sister after not being able to lose weight. Lots of info online .
I agree with Calley Means. I am overweight. I had gastrict bypass surgery and lost 127lbs in the 1st year, and continued losing weight after much slower, but loosing weight. I mantained that weight for 12 years and then went through menopause, and I started gaining weight all over again with little to no change in how I was eating. Today I still don't drink alcohol, I don't drink sodas, juice of any kind. I don't eat sweets, cakes, creamy anything including ice cream, because after gastrict bypass I realized when eating any of those things I would get very sick and throw up. I don't eat large amounts because if I do it feels like food gets stock in my esophagus, and it is very painful. Yet, I started gaining weight. My problem is not food, my problem is that I don't exercise, and even though I don't eat sweets and much with sugar I eat some carbs like potatoes and rice with my meal. The years in which I was maintaining my weight I exercised every day 5 days a week, and as menopause started I got depressed and slowed down and never went back to moving. I am currently 209lbs. I would never ever go on a weight loss drug ever. Short cuts don't work, moving exercising does, and don't tell me because you are overweight you can't move at 356lb I couldn't move, and the day after the surgery I was still 356lbs, but I knew if I moved some I would lose weight faster. I also knew if I didn't exercise, I would have a lot of skin hanging. I went down to 144lbs and felt amazing. I did alot of research as of why I was gaining weight again, I then relized I need it to go on hormone replacement and Oh wow, amazing change. I am not depressed I am moving more, I am still eating pretty much the same, but I am moving more, and I am losing weight.
All those drugs will hurt other organs, don't believe that doctor that says in small doze you can do it.
I have had major health problems after my gastric bypass, life changing problems. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I wish you could just have an episode with just Tyna Moore respect the panel, but seriously Would’ve been nice with just her who she actually knows what she’s talking about
I respect all of their opinions etc, but they would NOT stop interrupting her… I really wanted to hear her finish her thoughts….so irritating..Hyman can’t stop interrupting any of his guests…it makes me want to tune out and go find the guest’s platforms so I can just listen to them without a blabbermouth interrupting every other sentence
This was so enlightening. Let me tell my story. I have Hashimotos diagosed at the beginning of covid. 40 lb weight gain, severe joint pain (I still cant close my left hand all the way due to inflammation) and many other affects of the autoimmune disorder. I was able to obtain Semaglutide from a compound pharmacy after my primary doctor refused the ozempic. I injected it as prescribed: .5. I have never been so sick in my life. Severe nausea and stomach pain. For days. I was forced to go get an IV infusion of zofran, pepcid, vitamins, etc. After feeling better, I decided to microdose myself to see if I could tolerate it. I dropped it to .1 and took a zofran 3 hours prior to the injection. I was fine after I did this. I would up the dose by .1 each week. This was 6 months ago. I still microdose and to this day I still cannot go above .5 and I dont think I need to. I've lost 30 lbs and that's great but what was super amazing was that it has decreased the inflammtion exponentially. I didnt even know this drug did this. My hip pain that I was starting to get disappeared completely in 2 weeks. My hands and feet pain and stiffness has been cut in half. For my condition, this drug has been a miracle. It just needs to be done right. Micro dosing is key.
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I'm with Dr Tyna on this, she makes a lot of sense to me. This was an interesting talk. I've struggled with my weight ever since I developed severe rheumatoid arthritis when I was 26. At diagnosis, my CRP was over 100 and my rheumatologist didn't know how I was moving. I'm 49 now and my joints have degraded to where I need crutches and I'm nowhere near as mobile as I used to be. Thankfully, my CRP hovers between 10 and 15, which is still higher than normal, but acceptable as far as my RA goes. I am focussing on my lifestyle relating to diet and the exercise I can do. It's far too painful and damaging to do too much aerobic exercise, so I focus on strength training, either with 3kg dumbbells or resistance bands. I just had my cholesterol checked and my triglycerides are 1.2mmol/L, HDL 1.73mmol/L and my ratio 3.1 despite my fat. So I must be doing something right diet-wise. I'm on enough drugs for RA and pain management, so the last thing I want to do is add more things to my list. If I did, I'd rather it be the lowest dose possible. I'm a work in progress, but I'm going in the right direction.
I have typ 2 diabetes, my hb1ac went down from 6.9 to 5.8 since taking this medication. All my other tests also turned out more positive than before. I even gained muscle mass since I started to actually enjoy walking again without my feet hurting since I lost 55lbs. I did feel nauseous for the first month, but my doctor just kept the dosis low for another month and my body adjusted pretty fast.
For me it's life changing. For example 20:30 Calley is saying you have to start changing people's habit - I think that is easy to say for someone who never experienced this food noise many people suffer under that is like an addiction. Before I took this medication, not thinking about food didn't work, just taking a bite of something never worked, not overeating or eating better food never work, I fell into a kind of eating trance where I wasn't in control of my body anymore. In fact I felt like watching a movie instead of being in control. I'm not one of the body positivity guys, I know that what I put into my body is what comes out - but I also know that unless someone would literally 24/7 stand next to me and control my intake I will always lose to the food noise in my head. You are your own worst enemy because you know all of your weaknesses, and that voice is mean and relentless - you can maybe ignore it for a week, but it nags and nags and nags you until you can only give up. This medications stops that voice and gives you control over your body back.
37:45 "Eating less crap because they don't want it" - Yes! This is the weird thing my family also is surprised with. I'm a 6'1 dude and ate lots of things, now I'm choosing salads because the thought of downing a Pizza like I always did when we ordered food disgusts me. Now an Italian salad still isn't the best choice with all the sauce they put on that but better than a whole Pizza I ate before and I can't imagine myself ever eating again. I can maybe eat one piece of it but after that my stomach protests telling me to stop eating that crap.
50:35 "Change your habits" - I don't agree. If it were that easy, everyone would do it. The problem is that something is not working correctly and the medication opened my eyes personally, like when I started to notice, I'm not thinking about food all the time instead of thinking what I am going to have for lunch the whole drive to work. I thought: Oh, that's what a normal person feels like, you don't have to think about food all the time? If I always felt like that, I too wouldn't be able to understand overweight people and just tell them: Just change your habit bro.
Exactly!
I have been on Sema-glutide peptides for around a year and a half. Also was taking metformin but don’t really need it anymore. Bp was elevated but is back to normal…. I have lost almost 40 pounds and I eat way less in portions than i used to. I take the stuff from a compounding pharmacy , but it costs about $600 for Rx which lasts about 5 or 6 weeks…. Can’t continue the cost anymore …. I’m a post menopausal 60yo female. I only had some mild side effects which pretty much go away next day after a dose, or I don’t get any side affects at all. This has really jump started my journey to better health…. But soon I will stop and need to continue to do well without it…. In the end you need to make the lifestyle changes or you will pay for prescriptions forever lol. This did help to change my habits but we will see if I can do okay once the peptides are out of my system.
@@dawnwolff2050 I live in Europe, I get it prescribed and since I got diagnosed with diabetes I get it on my insurance for the rest of my life so there aren't any additional costs for me. Even if I lost my job (which is unlikely as a civil servant) my insurance would be paid by social security so I'm on it for the rest of my life.
If nothing better comes around.
Why not change your diet, cure your type 2, and not have to take the poison?
Well said!
More of these conversations!! It's so great to hear a long form discussion from individuals that have opposing views! It's such a great reminder that somewhere in the middle is usually the best place to be!!
It cures alcoholism whilst the user is actively on the drug. That alone makes it hugely valuable.
I have worked as a nurse 25 years, nurses and doctors almost always recommend lifestyle changes, patients have trouble getting the appropriate food, the food that is available is highly addictive, GLP 1 meds address the intense food cravings. I agree maintaining muscle mass and in changing diet, but the medication is an important component to combat the food craving and get back to metabolic health.
Much bigger social issue than just diet and drugs: US Ag subsudizes 2 crops: corn (corn syrup) & soy. Food deserts and neighborhoods unsafe for kids to play outdoors and schools who can't do outdoor recess for same reasons. Schools' athletics funded by soft drink companies in return for their vending machines placed in those schools.
And I’ll throw in one more: we’re not getting good nutrition advice in general. We’re being taught we can eat whatever we want as long as we burn it off. It doesn’t work like that.
I agree, we must change the way we eat. No fast processed foods, eliminate refined sugar from our diet.
I am a 67 and have struggled to maintain a healthy weight after menopause. My metabolism was out of whack. Every year I have gained 5lbs, even though I don’t drink soda and I tried to eat healthy and exercise. January 2024 I was considered morbidly obese teetering at 200lbs. My A1C was 7.5 when my doctor prescribed Glp1.
For me this is a miracle. In 5 mos my A1C is down to 5.6, I have no more swelling in my feet/ankles. I have energy to actually strength train and I am no longer addicted to sugar and carbs.
I have had 0 side effects but I also have stayed at a lower dose. The only side effect I experienced so far, I lost 35lbs.
Definitely one of the most Relevant conversations and debate for our times!!! 👍👍👍thank you so much Doctor Hyman and your guests... These conversations need to be had all over the world. 👏👏👏
One thing that wasn't mentioned is the effects on mental health on people like myself. I have worked out for years, eating a healthy diet, and would always like to be 10 pounds lighter. Seeing so many women with bodies that were like mine, taking ozempic and are now incredibly thin, messes with my thinking. It is frustrating for people who are in our 60's, healthy, but not skinny. Our society values thinness for the sake of being skinny over health, and I feel like this is just another piece of this, adding to the feeling of not being good enough.
10 pounds is not a health issue, though. It's in your mind. I'm 30 pounds overweight, have tried everything other than drugs, and I've had to admit this to myself. I'm healthy. I wasn't born with the genetics to be thin. It's not going to happen, but my health is way more important than looking slender.
I COMPLETELY agree! I feel like this as well! It’s a mental struggle for me daily!
Blah blah blah. Semaglutide has been my savior
I'm in my 60s and I think I (women) look better with a few extra pounds.
When I'm thin I look unhealthy.
I'm not advocating obesity. But an extra few pounds fills out my face.
I feel better than when I'm too thin.
Just my observation.
Timestamps when Dr. Tyna speaks
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56:44-59:19
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Not easy to get proper care/compounding peptides/insulin 1:35:27-1:39:51 (1:37:52 Tyna)
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Carnivore diet does two thing: no carbs/sugar and plenty of protein!
Low carb diet with high protein is great also.
Both diets with walking or other exercise for muscle tone.
Absolutely!!!
Meat heals
I disagree about the carnivore diet and too much protein. I enjoy unprocessed carbs and do great.
A high protein diet is destroying the body, our body needs high fat foods.
Corruption has slowly gotten a grip on our government through special interest groups, it shouldn’t be allowed anymore, but I see we are turning around for the better with the truth awareness you spread,❤❤ thank you much
So informative. I absolutely enjoyed this conversation. What I found interesting is the mention of peptides. I'd love to explore this more in our next edition. So thank you for mentioning this. On another note, prescribing children Ozempic is simply the saddest thing, and a band-aid on the growing obesity epidemic in America. Schools, government platforms, parents, should al be responsible for the nutrition of children.
I really liked Dr. Moore's balanced perspective and her desire to help people to get some suppport in getting momentum in eating a balanced diet and exercising more. I think she offered a very wise, pragmatic, and informative approach to this discussion.
Didn’t know Cally and Casey are siblings 😮 What amazing work for people’s health they both have done ❤❤❤
Who’s Casey?
Casey is his sister who is an MD trained for surgeries ! So, though she has a specialty-MD degree she seems to have changed her business model more to the Internet-of-healthy-stuffings.
& I hr. 47 min. Dr Tyna ! Right on the money!
Thank you ! You summed up my 2 comments
Below! I'll be searching for and online Dr. /Compounding since my income probably wouldnt afford some one like you! Thanks
PharmD here sober 8 years. The same tools we use in recovery could be used to teach people healthy mindful relationships with food and supportive communities😊
Which is?
Absolutely correct. This is pure addiction
Can you share which tools ?
Over eaters anonymous
As a menopausal woman with PCOS and tons of chronic conditions that go with it, Calley Means was really making me angry. Yes we know food and environment caused this, but we don’t have the individual power to solve this problem. I have done Ultrametabolism for years and keto for years as my insulin resistance got worse. I still weigh 100 lbs more than I should. My body systems are broken and glp1 agonists are the only real hope I’ve ever had. I feel like he is wearing blinders, can’t understand the mechanism of these meds. He’s just anti big pharma.
I think it's hard for a person, like calley means who have never experienced problems to relate. It's so easy to just say eat less and move more. How had that worked so far, lol
No, he made a comment about hugely obese patients may need it, and it is between the doctor and patient.
agreed. When I 1st went to the Dr and was diagnosed with PCOS I was not overweight. Everyone said eat clean and exercise. I WAS. I once even trained for an Olympic team sport. My body broke and NOBODY listened.
Totally agree - now menopausal after a hysterectomy, my body is completely impossible to control in every way and feels like I’m inhabiting someone else’s. It doesn’t work anymore, inflammation up, homocysteine high, weight gain, pain etc etc
Carnivore cures it
I don’t eat sugar, grain, or processed food. Haven’t for years. I had Lyme and then immediate mold exposure. We got terrible mold illness CIRS. I gained 100lbs overnight with no other changes aside from stress. My bloodwork went CRAZY and everything upside down even on my healthy diet. We even order our meat, eggs, and veggies from local pastured farms. Our lives fell apart. Detoxing and treating illness has not helped and I don’t even look like the same person. I’m doing my research here because I’m going to an endocrinologist and I know they will offer it. I agree they feed kids awful, but we sent our kids lunch every single day. He doesn’t eat sugar or bread either. No preserved or cured foods. He doesn’t have the taste for sugar and junk like his friends do. Yet 100lbs weigh me down. I’m sick of society looking at me like I did this to myself.
Calley is exactly right about doctors being complicate with all of this. He's also right that pharmaceutical want the kids. Anyone who works in mainstream medical knows this is true. The standard of care has to be followed as defined by AMA and CMS otherwise insurance doesn't pay.
I tried this medication and couldn’t handle the nausea as the dose increased. At the time I was so sad because I loved the “calm” of never thinking about food.
I have recently decided on my own to try it at a low dose cycling on and off of it. It helps me remember that while I do have a food addiction that I also have the ability to maintain control of the addiction. It has helped me regain control of my exercise and diet regime. I’ve been telling everyone I know with weight issues who got their dr to prescribe the medication for weight loss (not diabetic) to only use it at a low dose just to help them realize the food issues they may have- but to plan on it only being a short term thing. I’m so happy my natural instinct is proving to be a good idea! I fully agree with what Tina is saying! I do a week of rybelsus once every few months, I do weight training 5-6 days a week and joined a sport that I play almost everyday.
If I hadn’t tried this medication I don’t think I would have understood the food addiction side of things and I don’t think I would have regained control of my life. There’s no magic pill, but this medication HELPED me regain control of my life and for that I will be forever grateful.
I am grateful I watched this
I think my dr soon is going I’m diabetic and prescribe mounjaro or Ozempic to me, and should she do so, I’ll ask her a refill on ondansetron which is an anti-nausea I’ve taken in the recent past for GERD which gives me terrible nausea sometimes.
just let tina talk, don't interrupt her constantly
I’m 53 and was super fit. Had several years of medical issues and gained 86 pounds in a year. I could not lose weight despite a keto diet and hours of weekly exercise. Hormonal balance, complete elimination of processed foods and seed oils as well as four days of cardio and resistance training is what finally helped me lose weight. I’m fifty pounds down and counting.
So you didn't use Ozempic
Thanks for a great conversation! Two against one though... For two people "not advocating for ozempic and beeing no fans of big pharma", they do do an awful lot of defending "not drugs, but peptides" 😂 Awsome job standing your ground Calley Means!!!🎉
Agreed!
I dont think he is a not a dr and is more trying to sell his book
@@KimmyGuitar His sister is the author of the book, and she is a doctor. Casey Means. She has done a lot of podcasts about metabolic health. He worked for Big Pharma and knows a lot about what goes on. Listen to his interview with Dr Anthony Chaffee
@@KimmyGuitar He made lots more money when he worked with pharma & Coca-Cola. Very few people get rich selling books these days. He’s on a mission and we need more voices like his.
I thought the same thing. Have they now been incentivized by Norvo?
I have spent 30 years trying every diet I could find. Tracking food religiously, exercising daily, weight training, caloric deficits, keto, paleo, low carb, organic, grass fed, pastor raised, no processed, on and on. I eat clean. I am very physical and I kept gaining g weight, not losing. I started low dose compounded tirzepetide and I have lost 40 pounds. I don’t feel like I have lost the desire to do fun things. I’m happier than I have been in a lot of years. My insulin level was very high when I started and I have come down to a much more normal level. I eat basically the same as I did before. This peptide has changed something in me physically. I only use it every two to three weeks now and plan on spacing even further in the future. I have had very little of the side effects. Barely noticeable. For me it has been a life saver.
Calley Means lacks a great deal of insight as well as sensitivity and I am curious what his credentials are to be teaching anyone anything. Thank you Dr. Tyna Moore for the thorough, well researched, innovative work that you do and for standing up to this bully as well as the norms of the medical community, we need more practitioners like you!
Exactly!
Calley was determined not to let this be a pro Ozempic video.
Anyone if there is a version with his part edited out?
A bully??? I see him as someone who is passionate about what he believes in. I am the same about the crazy world of big pharma and certain Dr's only prescribing quick fixes and not explaining the side effects. Not all Dr.s but alot.
Calley Means graduated from Stanford undergrad and Harvard Buisness School. His sister is Casey Means who graduated from Stanford Medical School and a practicing MD. Calley Means founded TrueMed and Casey Means is a Co-Founder of TrueMed.
*There’s a lot of information on Calley Means. It’s not hard to find. The only bully at the table was Tyna Moore. She was incredibly rude to Calley.
*Ozempic has many possible side effects such as paralysis of the stomach, and suicidal ideation. I don’t know which is worse …your stomach no longer able to process food or create
serotonin , or wanting to kill yourself.
Thinking that low dose is a bridge is great, but as Calley says, the habits don't tend to change. I can see that if it can help a person to have lessened their pain, they will likely start to move more. Being someone with RA, but no weight issues,I know that I'd move more if it didn't hurt so darn much! If my cartilage can begin to regenerate, I'll start moving more.
If you are too rigid in your thinking you will miss great opportunities to help yourself. I appreciate Dr Tyna for advocating for those in need of help. It’s not just about weight loss, it’s about your overall health and helping people get there. We don’t live in a world of “just eat healthy and workout” that helps people heal their metabolic health.
This conversation is AMAZING!! Thank you, all 3 of you, for your information and view points. I feel so educated!
The prescribing of statins is also giving people the false sense that they are okay eating bad diets, when they need to change from highly processed food to whole real foods and exercise. Doctors need to get onboard with prevention instead of just prescribing.
Statins usually do much more harm than good anyways. :(
Old gem of a saying:
Prevention is better than cure.
I went to a new dr last month. I am female, 57 and 20lbs overweight but have been eating at a caloric deficit, lifting weights 4x per week. I am hoping to do some body comp to help prevent muscle and bone loss. I lost 13 lbs from March to May at the time of this appt.
I asked for help to better improve my diet, etc in case what I was doing needed improvement. The very first thing out of the dr mouth was “You could take Ozempic. My diabetes patients have done very well with it”. I was so shocked, I know my mouth dropped open. I responded - it’s 20lbs more to get to my ideal body weight - I’ve just lost 13…I’m not taking drugs.
He says he didn’t know anything about nutrition that he could refer me. Then said that’s what he does - he prescribes medication. He then looked at my bloodwork and went on to say my LDL is high he wants me to go for more bloodwork and come back in 3 months. My LDL IS 140. I had already dropped it from 240 from the yr before but he didn’t want to hear that.
I understand that people may need medication. I don’t agree that it should be the first course of treatment unless you ascertain what is causing the problem.
Not once did this new dr ask me about my lifestyle, predispositions, etc. first thing to do is get on Ozempic.
He’s not interrupting incessantly.
All three have been invited to join in the discussion, not devolving into separate monologues.
This was a fascinating topic that sparked a lot of thought. While the discussion was engaging, it seemed at times like there were differing viewpoints being presented. Dr. Moore's perspective differed from Calley's, and the conversation could have benefited from allowing each person to fully express their ideas without interruption. For a productive group discussion, active listening and allowing everyone to finish their thoughts is important. I found Calley's position more aligned with my own thinking.