Iron Rock Off Road UCA Flex Joint
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2019
- Here's how easy it is to install Iron Rock's upper control arm flex joint! This joint fits in BOTH upper control arm positions on top of the front axle. Take note that in this video we are using Iron Rock's installation tool as well, which makes the job so much easier. Links to the products below.
Flex joint with 10mm bolt hole:
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Flex joint with 12mm bolt hole:
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Flex joint with 1/2" bolt hole:
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Flex joint install tool:
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Nice job, Joe!!
Great video guys!
Good content, guess I'll be sending you guys more of my money. For you DIYers, a ball joint press will get this in/out. While installing, when the ratchet gets tough to turn, a light tap from a hammer on the mount will help pull it in(works the same for ball joints).
Great tip David, thank you!
@@IronRockOffRoad
I imagine these are a little harsher in the nvh dept. As these wear, would I have to tighten them up or replace the black plastics?
Would these fit a factory WJ rear boomerang arm? What kind of longevity could I expect from these as a daily driver? No lift and I don't off-road the thing. Just want to make the suspension tight like a faster car. If I have to replace all of the stuff anyway, I may as well go better than stock.
Wouldn't it be easier to freeze the sleeve and heat the ear before installing? Instead of forcefully pressing it in?
@MrBrandorambo Your method could help but the pressing isn't difficult to do.
Would there be any point/pros to using this with stock control arms? Thinking if i have to replace the bushings might as well upgrade
I don't see any reason on factory control arms, just don't have that much flex.
There is a downside to removing and replacing bushings with the joints. You are likely to hear more road noise as the joints don't insulate the vehicle from road noise.
Remember bushings don't rotate they flex so any time you change ride hight you should loosen and re-tighten all of the bushings.
When doing the passager side witch way do you press it in?
they press in the same direction as the rubber bushings do 🙂
Is there any appreciable comfort loss from factory type bushing to flexjoint upgrade on the upper control arm.
I understand the benefits for off road use and long term wear but my concern is daily driver comfort. Because the lower arms have flexjoint on one end but still use rubber bushings on the axel side. So I am hesitating to even install it.
I have recently installed the iron rock long arm upgrade kit on my XJ with out using the upper C.A. flex joint upgrade and my jeep drives like a dream now!! Literally A HUGE difference from the ruff country short arms I had.
I have this kit on my WJ, with flex joints on all ends. There is a definite increase in "feel" though I don't find it too objectionable. I live in Michigan where the roads are at best like driving on the Moon and while the road chatter and sharpness of impacts are increased slightly the tightness of the suspension is worth it to me.
@@charliedee9276 do you have the rock link 3 link? If so how's it handle? I want to run the flex joints all the way around but people are saying it'll have too much flex
@@guybro7644 No such thing as too much flex. The jounce bumpers and shocks or limiting straps control flex, the joints on the control arm are not for that. You really only need one on the end for a streeter, having a flex on each end will not net anymore articulation then just one. Having two does no good unless the non flex joint is hindering the motion of the other. Yes, I have the IRO Rock Link up front. Flex joints at the frame ends on the lowers and a Currie Johnny Joint on the axle end as just the single rubber joint on the axle does not last long flexing, my new lasted 3 months. I meant to say the upper control arm up front has a joint at each end.
@@charliedee9276 I messaged IRO and asked about running them on both ends and they said the rubber ends won't accept the flex joints and that it needs a rubber bushing on the one side to provide a neutral state
Because of the bent arms
Is it the same for the bushing on the other side of the axle too?
Yes, this product can be used on the left and right side, in the same way.
Do y'all carry anything like that for the aftermarket lower control arms?
@ethanchewning9325 These joints are very size specific. We do carry replacement threaded ends for most aftermarket lower control arms. Our joints will fit those.
I just just received these. Would it be advisable to use some sort of lock tight.
you shouldn't need locktite, just torque according to our instructions 🙂
Mine came with no instructions
@@robertzerba6047 sorry about that! If you email alex.j@ironrockoffroad.com we can get some emailed right out!
No torque spec on the small Allen head bolts ?
@drewamy2528 The bolts are so small the torque spec is hard for most people to measure.
Does anyone make drop brackets for the wj control arms?
we do not, but we do make a better product! Take a look at the rock link long arm kits. They are the real deal.
Will those fit in the jeep wj dana 30?
Yes these do fit the WJ D30!
How is the joint greased?
Grease it up on assembly. That's it! 🤘
Does the install tool and flex joint work on the passenger side as well?
Hi! Yes, this will work to install the flex joint on both sides. Thank you!
@@IronRockOffRoadThank you
Ok so you need two of these press in flex joints.@IronRockOffRoad
Can this work on the 2WD WJ version?
Yes! It certainly will work on your 2WD!
Try doing it on a 2005 wk
Is there a way of adding a grease fitting?
Probably would need to drill through the axle mount and into the flex joint race, then tap the drilled hole for the zerk fitting. You would want to pull the actual flex head "ball" and washers out before hand though.
@@VaporheadATC I did exactly that and it works very nicely.
@VaporheadATC Very interesting! Glad to hear it worked for you!
@pennypackmtb2542 Glad to hear it worked for you!
Are they greaseable
You grease them on initial assembly. you would have to drill and tap whatever they are pressed into, in order to make them constantly greasable.
Will this work for the IRO 3 link kit for an MJ
@moejr14 Absolutely! This flex joint will work in both upper control arm positions on top of the axle. AND you can upgrade to a larger bolt size than the original for more piece of mind. The original bolt size is 10mm but we offer it in 12mm and 1/2 inch bolt sizes too.
10mm bolt
www.ironrockoffroad.com/product/upper-control-arm-flex-joint-8-bolt-10mm-cartridge.html
12mm bolt
www.ironrockoffroad.com/product/upper-control-arm-flex-joint-8-bolt-12mm-cartridge.html
1/2 inch bolt
www.ironrockoffroad.com/product/upper-control-arm-flex-joint-8-bolt-12-cartridge.html
@@IronRockOffRoad do you have to drill out the upper control arm bolt hole?
@@moejr14 Yep, just like we did in the video. Drill out your upper control arm bracket to match the bolt size you choose, and you are good to go!
Where in the hell did he find that baby claw hammer?lol...
haha lol
Lmfao...no shit. Next to that elusive 10 mm socket.
It's a normal size claw hammer, Joe is a giant. :-)
It’s cute my granny has one in her sewing kit
I cannot believe the very next day It tried to come out of the upper control. No I didn't tap it. It was a very snug fit, how this this happened, the only thing that should be trying to move is the flex part, not the main cartridge. Wtf
Were you guys just building bird houses ?.........C'mon....
You should be ashamed of yourselves for using that little hammer. My daughter has one of those, it came with her pink tool set. She's 7, what's your excuse?
lol, that was intentional to show how easy it is to do, even your 7 year old can do it!!
uh, wearing jewelry while wrenching is not a good idea.
@crashtestperformance3596 We agree! It won't happen again!
Why sell your BS “tool” to remove the bushing when it doesn’t work? I tried it and it isn’t deep enough to pull out the old bushing. On a bushing that is still intact, it will just flex the rubber and will not press out. It didn’t even work on your video. 😂
The tool's primary purpose is an installation tool. It works perfectly for that purpose. we will agree with you that removal of older bushings can be a pain, and using this tool is not the easiest way to manage that, nor is that its designed purpose.
@@IronRockOffRoad The trick, as I presume you know by now, is to use a punch to peen the old bushing sleeve over into the rubber as far as you can. This gives a lot of steel for the thick washer to pick up on and drive the old bushing out with relative ease.
Air hammer is what you want. Everything else with a 15+ year old bushing is just too tedious. It's not even pleasant or easy with an air hammer.