Sure, but even then 7900 XTX seems like a pretty hard sell at a $1k price tag. The power consumption and lower performance in some scenarios compared to 4080 Super just makes it tough to recommend. And if you are a content creator? Pffft, it's not even a question at that point, especially Blender. $800? $750? I could see it being a viable option, not $1k.
IMO AMD is competitive with Nvidia up to the 7900 GRE level. Especially as at that tier RT just is too hungry to use even the Nvidia equivalent for. For top cards, 4080 or above... Nvidia wins hands down.
@@X_irtz In amazon there are couple of offers, I have been seeing the XFX Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX going low as 620 USD the past 2 weeks
Yes, I think 4080 actually can be better. But I bought 7900xtx with discount for 830 dollars and for the price of 4070ti super it’s definitely better. Plus amd now has CUDA converters (but I don’t care cos I’m not working in blender). There’s no bad GPUs, there’s just bad pricing.
@@X_irtz What people fail to realize is how essential raytracing is becoming. There are quite a few games that run raytracing natively without the option of turning off. The 7900 xtx may have more raw performance, but it's definitely not more optimized.
It's funny when everyone loses their minds over RT. when only 3% of the world really uses it. AMD has been the best choice for gaming for many years. And since the 6000 series, AMD is good for content creation.
I hate this year's Nvidia GPU lineup and the company's overall anti-consumer practices, but AMD gotta offer more to be able to compete. In this case, for 60 bucks more I'd still take the 4080 super to have a more efficient card with RT, DLSS and better productivity use cases. Realistically though, both choices seem bad to me. I will skip this year's GPU and wait for the new products from both companies. I hope by that time either NVIDIA will start treating customers like human beings with less egregious pricing in artificially limited cards or AMD will catch up in the software war and provide better value than it does currently.
Unless AMD has an even cheaper price, Nvidia will still sell it more expensive because their R&D costs are huge. Look at DLSS and RT performance, the cost for those two things is not small, and it's worth it. Sadly, many sources say that AMD does not have a product that can compete with Nvidia's high-end GPU in the RTX 5000 generation, even their next most powerful GPU can only compete with the RTX 5070ti. This scenario is really scary, let's imagine that RTX 5060 costs $800 which is terrible.
People fighting over which amd and nvidia gpu is something that so toxic about this type of content comment section. Just prefer based on what the result of video benchmark, you can't go wrong with both of these gpus. Unless if you consider other thing than gaming use because this is a gaming benchmark video.
@@-Luucy- too much to be a 'fanboy' on something is not good for real. You can't really expect if nvidia or AMD is doing a great job with their GPUs (at least fulfiling the consumer expectations). Nvidia 40 series is being expensive (but more power efficient and better rt dlss) and amd rx 7000 series does not have much of an improvement over 6000 series (but cheaper compared to nvidia). Each brand has their upside and downsides. And yet people still fighting that they feel the rightest with their preferences.
@@thesilver7238 you're not wrong but the gap is closing day by day, especially considering the fact that AMD has made it's driver's open source, while Nvidia hired the head of the Linux team that was working on driver compatibility for open source platforms for Nvidia's hardware. Time will tell if that move was as nefarious as a number of people seem to think. however looking at Nvidia's track record which is shady at best i can see why there's speculation. Meanwhile the open source community is free to band together and utilize and improve drivers and ROCm compute efficacy for powerful AMD hardware that outshines Nvidia's raw hardware specs in a number of cases(plz reference the hardware documentation for the 7900XTX vs The 4080 Super (compute units being the most meaningful point of comparison, or translation, to cuda cores)) The tune sung will sound much like a new song altogether, if that gap continues to be bridged at the rate that it is currently.
@@mfelicio1 No at this time you should go for a full AMD build. Every other is just stupid. To buy Nvidia where you need to pay 200€ extra for same performance is bad. And to go with Intel at this price class yea you gonna get a cooked CPU. U also need to know that amd has SAM that gives 20fps more
@@listX_DE same performace? and it is 20€.. not 200.. did you see a different video than we did? as soon as RT and FG come into play, the 4080 is twice as fast
@@jimbean9142 Nah sorry looked it up. Nvidia lowerd really there GPUs. Before a 7900xtx was on 1000€ and a ONLY 4080 was at 1200€ so my bad. that's crasy a super is cheaper than a normal.
@@jimbean9142 But you can't even tell if RT is on or off. I bet the same money as these carts. And FG no you get more Frames out of AMDs but these games use FSR 2.1 so yes it's bad but 3.1 beats it
Im happy with my 4080 none super in 4k. Runs everything smooth ultra 4k and the only difference between a 4090 and 4080 is about 20 to 25 fps. They can keep that extra 25 fps
It’s called investment. He invests money in those graphic cards, to then make videos comparing them. Afterwards, he gets more money than what he originally spent. Is it that hard to use your brain ?
@@blackarrow7548 during the last gen efficiency was not important according to nvidia fanboys. Now it seems very important ;) Yes, nvidia is currently more efficient, but in reality for normal gamers the difference is trivial in the actual power bill.
@@TheMahtimursu Airflow and PSU choice has a high impact. also amd cards have driver issues and has very bad rtx performance. On software nvidia is also very good.
@@Joniwalkaway asus tuf f15 4060 140w Core i7 12700h 32g ram 3200 Laptop's monitor: 1080p 144hz gsync My other Monitor: 27inch ips 1440p gsync 170hz asus Getting 70 to 90 fps in new games max setting and RT on with dlss quality and FG in 1440p one of the best budget gaming laptop(i use it for gaming and civil engineering) and monitor Planning to get a 4070ti super dekstop with a 4k 120hz sony tv. So? You really thought i would write that comment with a gtx 750?!
You know guys i dont think all these gpu is the main problem of our performance but the main problem that we are facing now is the poor of optimization in new title games and it will be worst and worst soon if devs did not taking any action to prevent this.
@@4doorsmorewhors EA sports WRC looks (at best) same as Dirt Rally 2.0 but it's 5 times more demanding. Seriously, RX 580 can run dr2.0 1080p high 60+ fps all of the time, wrc barely 40 fps average at 1080p low, and it looks like ps3 game. Optimisation is basically performance to graphics ratio.
@@VanyaYlianov the truth is AMD is using more electricity and is using electricity less efficiently than Nvidia. I know AMD users have a way to make it use somewhere around 320W but the performance remains the same, but Nvidia GPUs can do the same thing so the difference is still large, looking at this difference and the RT performance I know why AMD There is no high-end GPU to compete with RTX 5000 because they simply gave up to Nvidia in the next generation
@@chien.nguyen. i like amds way much more with consumption limit not frequency like nvidia, in gta sa 4 example 1080 was sonsuming only around 90 watts, limited by frequency, but 7900 xtx comes to absolutely insane 3120 mhz at 325 watts, while in mostly games its around 2500, and it increases fps proportionally. so if u could take more from nvidia gpu just by that wouldn u do that?
In heavy RT workloads (Alan Wake 2 PT), the 4080S is more than 2x faster than the 7900XTX (24fps vs. 54fps). Nvidia is clearly in a different league when it comes to RT performance.
There are even rumors that their new RT core has 4 times the performance of the current generation, a scenario where even the RTX 5060 can run full RT and still be over 60 fps.
@chien.nguyen. IDK man, I believed in leaks a few years ago, but now I realize most of them are fake. The 4x increase in RT performance sounds too good to be true. I think people would still be happy if the midrange RTX5070 could deliver RTX4090 performance in both raster and RT.
True but the list of games with good rt is at a guess less than 20 and by that I mean looks at ratchet and clank it has rt but it looks worse than global and effectively Half's your FPS because the game was made with global in mind and rt tacked on a good rt game looks and performs better but there's just not that many for my it's just not enough to get my in the green door I want to but the pure rasta power house for the price for me
Nvidia Fanboy logic: 30 series bad power efficency: nah nobody cares about that! 40 series good power efficency: yeah baby, efficency is the most important thing! Nvidia throttling some of their gpus by adding far too little vram for what they advertise: nah, just buy another card that is 100% more expensive. And that DLSS main impact on performance comes from shooting your GPU into the head by turning on RT, which a lot of games still don't use in a noticable way.
Amd fanboys when they are comparing cpus : AMD IS BETTER ITS MORE EFFICIENT COPE INTEL FANS AMD fanboys when it comes to GPU : EFFICIENCY DOESNT MATTER AMD IS BETTER COPE NVIDIA FANS Nvidia demolished amd in this generation admit it.
Yeah, nobody was talking about efficiency last grn when a 500$ cheaper card 6900xt was matching 3090 while consuming 100w less. That was a clear winner, but you can't prove it to dumb nvidia fanboys.
Nvidia Fanboys - Save power with Nvidia! Then drop a Intel Cpu in that same rig pulling 300 watts more than AMD cpu Lmao! Nvidia Fanboys- dLsS bEtEr tHaN nAtIvE textures still smeared and jagged with shimmering. But go watch their favorite paid off Nvidia shill youtuber cuddling them for dlss. Nvidia Fanboys- Only Nvidia can raytrace! Even though Native Raster with HDR looks better than Upscaled RT. AMD- Literally can still RT every game out with my 7900XTX at 1440P and 4K. AMD- Got frame gen in any game with AFMF 2 AMD- Keeping old Nvidia gpu's still relevant with FSR 3. AMD- Got way more VRAM for your money in every GPU can load more High res textures and perform better with mods. AMD- Custom color options that Nvidia's cant compete with AMD- Adrenaline 1000 times better than Crapforce Ngreedia AMD- Display port 2.1 while Nvidia still on the old Display port 1.4.
@@squad-kl3ek no one. cares. about. ray tracing. you literally are brainrot ppl. there are 4 new GOOD games with ray tracing. most ppl play OLDER games with no even RT available. and other group of players play competitive games and they care about fps not rt. xD
I wouldn’t necessarily consider it “distant”, considering some games can run it pretty well, especially when super optimised for it in a Console. But I do agree, it’s going to be a while before it becomes as “mainstream” as, for example, 4K gaming is now. That was distant only a few years ago. I do think it’s good that we’re pushing for new technology as a community, but I feel as though lighting engines are so good anyway, and with a good developer behind a good game, ray tracing simply makes no real and tangible difference to me. It takes a huge performance hit for not much better visuals.
Aqui no brasil a diferença de valor é de 1000 reais, 180 dólares a favor da AMD, a 7900xtx por 6500 reais, ou 1172 dólares, contra 7500 reais ou 1352 dólares pela 4080s. A duvida é, em quanto tempo a conta de luz iguala esse valor com esses 100w a mais que a placa da AMD consome?
One small thing to notice is how very little the 7900XTX frame times are a little more stable than the 4080 Supers I mean look at Alan Wake on the 7900XTX it may have had 22 fps but the frame times were near perfect
As much of a fanboy I am for Nvidia, I just cant spend an extra $3-400 more for a 4080 when the 7900xtx is a better buy/deal and pretty much a better card.
The super came out over a year after the 7900xtx lol. You should compare it the the gpu it came out with, the non super. Else it would be fair to say that the 7900 is better then 3080, which it obviously is but thats not a fair comp
@@thor.halsli The 4080 non super is NOT that much slower than the 7900xtx and 4080super. Even a 4080 is considerably faster in heavy RAY TRACING than 7900xtx.
@@adlibconstitution1609 I could say the same the other way around, the 7900xtx is NOT that mush slower then the 4080super. And 6 years after ray tracing came it's still isn't worth the bad performance. You’re looking at a maximum of 30fps in games with resolutions ranging from sub-1080p to 1440p
@@thor.halsli Look at Hogwarts Legacy RT the 4080super can hit a very PLAYABLE 100fps in 1440p while the 7900xtx cannot even hit 60fps. A 4080 can deliver nearly same RT performance as a 4080super which can deliver above 80fps RT in 1440p. The 7900xtx is way behind than even the 4080 non-super in RT.
@@adlibconstitution1609 7900 xtx does not claim to be a ray tracing card. And why would they, no one uses ray tracing. Nvidia biased a 120fps in 4k when the 4080 released, it failed to deliver that.
@@someperson1829 yea and no… So you get dlss and better rt but only on 3 games that have really rt. So if you play cyberpunk and love it then go for the 4080s. But only then.
@@listX_DE bro, same price, better RT and upscale tech, better driver and support, yes the RX has like 5-10% performance and 8 GB Vram but 16GB it just too enough for anh games nowaday, not to mention the 4080S eat less power than the 7900XTX
@@listX_DE He just went through small about of games. There are more broad tests in games, where 4080S wins even in raster. With new drivers 7900XTX lost that edge in raster, now extra VRAM is the only edge it has, that it will not be able to utilize properly anyway. lol
hopefully amd focuses fixing raytraycing performance on next gen. i would give up on making highend gpus too if i couldnt deliver great performance on a popular setting.
No way 7900XTX has under 350W. Unless you got the reference model, don't know about those... BUT to even get to 350W, you have to limit the power to -10%, at default Is 390W and on +15% it's 450W. I can't even trust those benchmark's
AMD MBA reference models are indeed 355w. I got one on launch day and it's performing pretty well at that wattage. a good 5% less than what the Nitro+ of a friend ran at with 420w. All RX 7900XTX's also support +15% power limit, even the MBA card included. so you could push 405w through the MBA card still despite it only having 2x 8-pin power, but 355w seems to be the efficiency sweetspot for RX 7900XTX. The FPS seems realistic here from my experience. a 7900XTX on stereoids (so a nitro+ at +15% which is basically 480-500w) will perform closer to a 4090 than to a 4080S. but that's to be expected at that power draw tbf. N31 scales pretty well with power. der8auer did a overclock and the thing could even run at 3.4ghz oc @ 650w just with a regular waterblock mostly stable.
I own both cards and the xtx beats the 4080 in most games without ray tracing. If I had to choose between the two of them I'd go with the 7900xtx. I play games in native 4k and amd is more powerful
Gpus have lot larger surface area which increases cooling efficiency. If you want to make you cpu cooler, get some better thermal paste or drop the frequency and voltage
im just saying if youre going to use the gpu for a while and wont replace it consider the 4080s notice that with power efficiency nvidia wins and there are still problems with amd graphics cards that uses 500w on overwatch and other fps games that dont use a lot of the gpu while any other nvidia graphics card pulls at least half of that
I went with the 4080 S. I would've gotten the 7900XTX but it was $100 more at the time. (Ik shocker right?) Plus, I get raytracing, better VR support, and top notch rendering support. Which AMD either does not do, or do very well.
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4090 is in another league dude, if your looking at buying one it means you can afford one, and if you can afford one the go for it, its literally the most powerful gaming gpu on planet earth right now
@@codycrabtree3684 Its actually starting from 1.700 you can find a one with 1.7K dollars but yeah. Back in the day when people could buy a high end flagship gpu at only 700 dollars.
You bought 1000+ dollars for GPU and still can't turn on ray tracing settings? That must be suck. You said you don't care about RT, but i know deep down you want those relism in lighting.
@@ardi1606 In games like COD and other competitive shooters, ray tracing makes it more diffecult to see enemies and slows down the fps, In games like cyberpunk RT off looks sharper and clearer, and that is what I prefer. It is a personal preference and not worth $200 extra to have to look hard to notice rt on.
@@rodhester2166ray tracing is a gimmick still, if you really want rt, wait until cards come out that better optimize it and games that come out to also better optimize it. That guy in the comments is blowing air up you.
good work for nvidia with this gen!!!!!3000series was outperform by 6000 a 3080 ti in my country was at 1300 euros on my country while a 6900xt was 1000 and way more beastt!!!!NOW we have to give it to nvidia both 7900xtx with 4080 s have almost the same price at raw power both cards are almost same both beast!!!!ray tracing as ti goes is more visible and you can use it and dlss3 i wayy more better than previus......BOTH CARDS the goats but for me this gen nvidia almost wins they improved a lot!!!!
I've got a 3080ti and downloaded Lossless scaling the other day... Cyberpunk 2077 everything on ultra RT and Path tracing 75 to 90 fps LOL! It has its glitches graphically, but its amazing! Should keep me going for a generation until AMD or some other company turns up and allows me to get away from Nvidia!
In the next 2 years, if AMD does not improve RT and FSR closer to Nvidia's, it will be a death sentence for them, because RT is being included in the standard by companies because of its benefits in reducing development time and costs. games, especially the much improved RT performance and the participation of the Lumen solution
RDNA 4 leaks that have been DMCA'd by sony, it states that RT performance is doubled, up to quadrupled in some instances. so dont worry about RT as AMD will catch up, at least to 40 series at a minimum.
True not dead but true. Most people dont play Heavy RT its also not mainstream. The AMD cards can ez use handle RT but not the heavy one and even the heavy can be counted by hand.
I can't help but feel AMD really failed this gen at the high end... their products aren't bad, they just chug back so much power to keep up. Kinda like what Intel does with CPU's 😅
@thebeast12333 reading comprehension /10 Since I stated that AMD failed the high end and we were talking about power draw. My 7900XTX uses 90% of the 4090 TDP. It's a shame that it maxes out at about 70% the performance in most titles.
@User-delulush0u Lol, what? No one buys an Xbox or PS5 because of RT. Companies can try to sell this feature as much as they want but so many games don’t utilize it nor do gamers necessarily even want to use it when available.
We'll see what the next generation of cards brings but AMD definitely stood well against Nvidia this generation, I'm thrusting into the radeon 8000 series even if it's already been stated they'll focus on it being mid-range cards
In Australia, the cheapest 7800xtx Vs the cheapest 4080s is about 200 USD, how much is rt worth? Price conversion for cheapest Vs cheapest is 920usd Vs 1120usd, and this is after both have dropped down roughly 150 usd
Get the 4080s. At the low/midrange end, AMD wins. At the highend, heres a comparison: 7900xtx: Gaming, FSR, RT bad. 4080S: Gaming, DLSS, Creator tools, Workstation, CUDA, Rasterization 1-5% worse, RT great, PT great. At the highend you shouldnt mind an extra 200 usd for more uses and features.
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Everyone is sitting here laughing at the few times that the 7900xtx had drops in performance, and tbh even if it was consistently 100 watts more, it would still be a way better deal then a 4090 that’s almost double the price. Because 2000$ minimum for a part that is rivaled by something at least 700$ cheaper not a good deal, no matter how u twist it
@@Xilent1 It means that 5090 will be made of two 5080's. Dual GPU's in the past were rare and built only if they couldn't get much gains over the previous model on a single chip, they are reserved only for one card in the lineup on the highest end just to keep Nvidia on the top of the hill. They are hotter, more power hungry and cost more to produce, 5090 will be built on three PCB's according to the leaks and probably launch at $2000 if not more.
@@Definedd If you don't have a PC or your GPU is too old, what do you do to wait 5 more months, no one will do that, buy a new GPU now because in the next 5 months there will only be RTX 5090, RTX 5080 will have to wait at the earliest. At the end of the first quarter of 2025, during that time, if you save a good amount of money, reselling and upgrading the RTX 4080 Super is still very good because it is still new and you do not spend much money on it.
@@Definedd your are tripping bro. Every generation had problems on release. Might as well wait for the 8080Ti for 10k resolution. Dumb comment on waiting.
außer Raytracing: Nvidia aber erst ab 4080 alles drunter kannste my mind in die tonne werfen DLSS/FSR: (beides für mich totale unschärfe das es mir weh tut in den augen) Nvidia Willst einfach die größte Gaming Leistung jetzt und in der Zukunft kauf AMD
Idk... i have a 4070 and am thinking about upgrading bit IDK what to! I love nvida upscale bit $$ to proformance. Ill wait till i vsn get a 4090 for 1000
NGL in some titles like DayZ ive seen my 7900xtx nitro shoot to 580watts like in certain scenarios when you alt tab back into games But I mean, with a 1600w psu and +15% on the power limit.
Break it down into a single comment if you want to play competitive video game use AMD if you want to play long cinematic role-play story games get an Nvidia
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some games are already hitting 16gb vram, and most of us buy gpus for next 3-4years and imagine the vram usage of games in the future lol, its a better option to choose 7900xtx over 4080s because of more rasterization performance, less price and more vram instead of RT performance which is still not even 1% of the total games!
Both are overpriced, the 4080 SUPER is not much faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER while being $200 more expensive. 7900 XTX on the other hand is quite a bit the same too, though you're losing 4GB of VRAM.
@@shadowlemon69 Ok, but nano chip and CUD in 7900 XTX is better and different than 7900 XT the same for rtx 4090 and 4080 super. 4090 > 4080 super is better not because vram bur yes CUD and nano
When it comes to real performance 7900xtx first was far better buy than 4080 and again with new 4080s without ray tracing 7900xtx is better gpu . Im using amd cpu so i use less power nvidia+intel . But bust buy is def used 6800 .
Então, a AMD sempre vence em força bruta, mas deixa a desejar em programação RT e DLSS - Nvidia, nesse ponto sempre supera, atualizando constantemente e dando grande enfase em suporte... AMD sempre é bom em custo e benefício, mas para quem quer aproveitar toda a tecnologia Nvidia sempre supera. =/
Games :
Horizon Forbidden West - 0:00
Ghost of Tsushima - 1:00
Alan Wake 2 - 1:55
Alan Wake 2 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 2:49
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:42
Cyberpunk 2077 - 4:37
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 5:16
Senua's Saga Hellblade II - 6:01
Hogwarts Legacy - 6:49
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 7:41
Forza Horizon 5 - 8:30
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9:19
Starfield - 10:13
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RADEON RX 7900 XTX 24GB - bit.ly/3Hx6keI
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4080 Super having similar performance to the 7900XTX while performing cooler and running at much lower wattage seems like a W to me.
not to mention has far more content creation performance for video and photo work.
In general the logic is this: You want RT? you get Nvdia. You play games that dont really use it? You get amd.
Sure, but even then 7900 XTX seems like a pretty hard sell at a $1k price tag. The power consumption and lower performance in some scenarios compared to 4080 Super just makes it tough to recommend. And if you are a content creator? Pffft, it's not even a question at that point, especially Blender. $800? $750? I could see it being a viable option, not $1k.
IMO AMD is competitive with Nvidia up to the 7900 GRE level. Especially as at that tier RT just is too hungry to use even the Nvidia equivalent for. For top cards, 4080 or above... Nvidia wins hands down.
@@X_irtz In amazon there are couple of offers, I have been seeing the XFX Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX going low as 620 USD the past 2 weeks
Yes, I think 4080 actually can be better. But I bought 7900xtx with discount for 830 dollars and for the price of 4070ti super it’s definitely better. Plus amd now has CUDA converters (but I don’t care cos I’m not working in blender). There’s no bad GPUs, there’s just bad pricing.
@@X_irtz What people fail to realize is how essential raytracing is becoming. There are quite a few games that run raytracing natively without the option of turning off. The 7900 xtx may have more raw performance, but it's definitely not more optimized.
It's funny when everyone loses their minds over RT. when only 3% of the world really uses it. AMD has been the best choice for gaming for many years. And since the 6000 series, AMD is good for content creation.
Trash. More money=more performance 😄
4060 vs 6700 xt 6700xt for sure but when it comes to high end gpus, nah. Nvidia much better.
@@AurentheabsoIute Dont talk shit, get some education befor writing bullshit
Your forgetting about work stations and people that work with AI models. They wouldn't even bat an eye at amd if its for working on an AI workload
@@Michael-ty2uo Who gives a fuck, its not about work, its about gaming or cant you read. AMD is better for gaming.
I hate this year's Nvidia GPU lineup and the company's overall anti-consumer practices, but AMD gotta offer more to be able to compete. In this case, for 60 bucks more I'd still take the 4080 super to have a more efficient card with RT, DLSS and better productivity use cases.
Realistically though, both choices seem bad to me. I will skip this year's GPU and wait for the new products from both companies. I hope by that time either NVIDIA will start treating customers like human beings with less egregious pricing in artificially limited cards or AMD will catch up in the software war and provide better value than it does currently.
Unless AMD has an even cheaper price, Nvidia will still sell it more expensive because their R&D costs are huge. Look at DLSS and RT performance, the cost for those two things is not small, and it's worth it. Sadly, many sources say that AMD does not have a product that can compete with Nvidia's high-end GPU in the RTX 5000 generation, even their next most powerful GPU can only compete with the RTX 5070ti. This scenario is really scary, let's imagine that RTX 5060 costs $800 which is terrible.
Wait till you see the RTX 5000 series next year...
@@chien.nguyen. I may need to skip more than one generation lol *cries*
@@chien.nguyen. i bet on 5090 at 2199 US Dollars
You forgot about the 7900 golden rabbit
Finally a video with the diferent tecnologies configuration on/off, not only rasterized
What is rasterized?
@@MrKingNica it means without ray tracing, dlls and fsr
People fighting over which amd and nvidia gpu is something that so toxic about this type of content comment section. Just prefer based on what the result of video benchmark, you can't go wrong with both of these gpus. Unless if you consider other thing than gaming use because this is a gaming benchmark video.
They're either children or adults with very immature mindset, which is sad honestly...
For anything AI related, NVIDIA is the way to go, no contest here. CUDA is miles ahead of ROCm
@@thesilver7238 yeah for sure as I have just said 'unless if you consider other thing than gaming use...'
@@-Luucy- too much to be a 'fanboy' on something is not good for real. You can't really expect if nvidia or AMD is doing a great job with their GPUs (at least fulfiling the consumer expectations). Nvidia 40 series is being expensive (but more power efficient and better rt dlss) and amd rx 7000 series does not have much of an improvement over 6000 series (but cheaper compared to nvidia). Each brand has their upside and downsides. And yet people still fighting that they feel the rightest with their preferences.
@@thesilver7238 you're not wrong but the gap is closing day by day, especially considering the fact that AMD has made it's driver's open source, while Nvidia hired the head of the Linux team that was working on driver compatibility for open source platforms for Nvidia's hardware. Time will tell if that move was as nefarious as a number of people seem to think. however looking at Nvidia's track record which is shady at best i can see why there's speculation. Meanwhile the open source community is free to band together and utilize and improve drivers and ROCm compute efficacy for powerful AMD hardware that outshines Nvidia's raw hardware specs in a number of cases(plz reference the hardware documentation for the 7900XTX vs The 4080 Super (compute units being the most meaningful point of comparison, or translation, to cuda cores)) The tune sung will sound much like a new song altogether, if that gap continues to be bridged at the rate that it is currently.
7900 xtx : 350w power draw
4080 s : 230w power draw.
maybe bcuz 4080 hass less vram ? xD nvidia clown
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2itah yes, 8 gb more vram somehow increase power draw by a full 120w according to you 💀
@@auritro3903it does LOL nvidia clown fan
@@nope7389 Lmao nvidia clown boy 🤡🤡🤡
GPU=Nvidia
CPU=AMD
@@mfelicio1 No at this time you should go for a full AMD build.
Every other is just stupid.
To buy Nvidia where you need to pay 200€ extra for same performance is bad.
And to go with Intel at this price class yea you gonna get a cooked CPU.
U also need to know that amd has SAM that gives 20fps more
For now (amd)
@@listX_DE same performace? and it is 20€.. not 200.. did you see a different video than we did? as soon as RT and FG come into play, the 4080 is twice as fast
@@jimbean9142 Nah sorry looked it up.
Nvidia lowerd really there GPUs.
Before a 7900xtx was on 1000€ and a ONLY 4080 was at 1200€ so my bad.
that's crasy a super is cheaper than a normal.
@@jimbean9142 But you can't even tell if RT is on or off. I bet the same money as these carts. And FG no you get more Frames out of AMDs but these games use FSR 2.1 so yes it's bad but 3.1 beats it
Im happy with my 4080 none super in 4k. Runs everything smooth ultra 4k and the only difference between a 4090 and 4080 is about 20 to 25 fps. They can keep that extra 25 fps
the rtx 4080 its the same thing than rtx 4080 super same performancexd
Basically, it's the same. The 4080 is the 4k card of this generation, and the 4090 is 4k+
do you have a computer shop. how come u have a video on every cpu and gpus
he works at one, and made a deal with the owner to use some cards in exchange for a percentage of the channel profit
fake@@ives321
He sells pre built pc but had to test it first so he games using those pc as well as testing all the hardware.
It’s called investment. He invests money in those graphic cards, to then make videos comparing them. Afterwards, he gets more money than what he originally spent. Is it that hard to use your brain ?
@@zakae6hdt72Calm down, internet tough guy.
Drink your milk.
We really have to admit nvidia is doing great with power efficiency.
nvidia uses a more efficient node and amd uses their first try of MCM gpus, thats why nvidia is more efficient.
This generation but not last gen
@@Nicx343x nobody talks about last gen lol
@@blackarrow7548 during the last gen efficiency was not important according to nvidia fanboys. Now it seems very important ;) Yes, nvidia is currently more efficient, but in reality for normal gamers the difference is trivial in the actual power bill.
@@TheMahtimursu Airflow and PSU choice has a high impact. also amd cards have driver issues and has very bad rtx performance. On software nvidia is also very good.
-turn on RT
-AMD: so long fellas😂
show me ur pc rigless
@@Joniwalkaway
asus tuf f15
4060 140w
Core i7 12700h
32g ram 3200
Laptop's monitor: 1080p 144hz gsync
My other Monitor: 27inch ips 1440p gsync 170hz asus
Getting 70 to 90 fps in new games max setting and RT on with dlss quality and FG in 1440p
one of the best budget gaming laptop(i use it for gaming and civil engineering) and monitor
Planning to get a 4070ti super dekstop with a 4k 120hz sony tv.
So? You really thought i would write that comment with a gtx 750?!
RX 8000 series: But all that is about to change.
@@AlirezA_H.M_G Of course the nvidia fanboy with a mid end pc says that amd sucks
🤷♂
You know guys i dont think all these gpu is the main problem of our performance but the main problem that we are facing now is the poor of optimization in new title games and it will be worst and worst soon if devs did not taking any action to prevent this.
Word! Listen this guy!
How can you know if a game isn't well optimized? Serious question
@@4doorsmorewhors EA sports WRC looks (at best) same as Dirt Rally 2.0 but it's 5 times more demanding. Seriously, RX 580 can run dr2.0 1080p high 60+ fps all of the time, wrc barely 40 fps average at 1080p low, and it looks like ps3 game. Optimisation is basically performance to graphics ratio.
@@markoradakovic7713 ok so you just look at a game and know if it's optimized..... Sure bud lol
@@4doorsmorewhors its basically when a game looks like ass but needs a 4090 to run well at 1080p.
250 W vs 380 W 😂😂😂😂
i dunno mb i play not so much but when i came from undervolted 1080(around 150w) to undervolted 7900xtx(325) it was only 20 kwph difference
@@VanyaYlianov the truth is AMD is using more electricity and is using electricity less efficiently than Nvidia. I know AMD users have a way to make it use somewhere around 320W but the performance remains the same, but Nvidia GPUs can do the same thing so the difference is still large, looking at this difference and the RT performance I know why AMD There is no high-end GPU to compete with RTX 5000 because they simply gave up to Nvidia in the next generation
@@chien.nguyen. i like amds way much more with consumption limit not frequency like nvidia, in gta sa 4 example 1080 was sonsuming only around 90 watts, limited by frequency, but 7900 xtx comes to absolutely insane 3120 mhz at 325 watts, while in mostly games its around 2500, and it increases fps proportionally. so if u could take more from nvidia gpu just by that wouldn u do that?
109 fps vs 150 fps 😂😂😂
show me ur pc rigless
In heavy RT workloads (Alan Wake 2 PT), the 4080S is more than 2x faster than the 7900XTX (24fps vs. 54fps). Nvidia is clearly in a different league when it comes to RT performance.
There are even rumors that their new RT core has 4 times the performance of the current generation, a scenario where even the RTX 5060 can run full RT and still be over 60 fps.
@chien.nguyen. IDK man, I believed in leaks a few years ago, but now I realize most of them are fake. The 4x increase in RT performance sounds too good to be true. I think people would still be happy if the midrange RTX5070 could deliver RTX4090 performance in both raster and RT.
no sheet
Its just nvidia sponsored tittle relax
True but the list of games with good rt is at a guess less than 20 and by that I mean looks at ratchet and clank it has rt but it looks worse than global and effectively Half's your FPS because the game was made with global in mind and rt tacked on a good rt game looks and performs better but there's just not that many for my it's just not enough to get my in the green door I want to but the pure rasta power house for the price for me
In Europe an 4080s for 1000 Box would be a Dream😂
@user-wx4ln9jk3h same in Portugal, Spain, France... he must be looking at the expensive shops
here in italy it's 1150-1200€
got it for 999 from newegg shipped internationally, pretty sure u can do the same.
@@bashoot jeah but the shipping Cost is high and insurence ... so its the same basecly
@@gabrielhauer7893 0 tax 0 shipping all the way to the middle east
AMD GPUs are so power inefficient they are like 3000 series NVIDIA card's
Nvidia Fanboy logic:
30 series bad power efficency: nah nobody cares about that!
40 series good power efficency: yeah baby, efficency is the most important thing!
Nvidia throttling some of their gpus by adding far too little vram for what they advertise: nah, just buy another card that is 100% more expensive.
And that DLSS main impact on performance comes from shooting your GPU into the head by turning on RT, which a lot of games still don't use in a noticable way.
Amd fanboys when they are comparing cpus : AMD IS BETTER ITS MORE EFFICIENT COPE INTEL FANS
AMD fanboys when it comes to GPU :
EFFICIENCY DOESNT MATTER AMD IS BETTER COPE NVIDIA FANS
Nvidia demolished amd in this generation admit it.
Yeah, nobody was talking about efficiency last grn when a 500$ cheaper card 6900xt was matching 3090 while consuming 100w less. That was a clear winner, but you can't prove it to dumb nvidia fanboys.
Nvidia Fanboys - Save power with Nvidia! Then drop a Intel Cpu in that same rig pulling 300 watts more than AMD cpu Lmao!
Nvidia Fanboys- dLsS bEtEr tHaN nAtIvE textures still smeared and jagged with shimmering. But go watch their favorite paid off Nvidia shill youtuber cuddling them for dlss.
Nvidia Fanboys- Only Nvidia can raytrace! Even though Native Raster with HDR looks better than Upscaled RT.
AMD- Literally can still RT every game out with my 7900XTX at 1440P and 4K.
AMD- Got frame gen in any game with AFMF 2
AMD- Keeping old Nvidia gpu's still relevant with FSR 3.
AMD- Got way more VRAM for your money in every GPU can load more High res textures and perform better with mods.
AMD- Custom color options that Nvidia's cant compete with
AMD- Adrenaline 1000 times better than Crapforce Ngreedia
AMD- Display port 2.1 while Nvidia still on the old Display port 1.4.
@@SemperValor rewatch the video, pretty sure RT seems too imbalanced here
You have 0 arguments on this comparison so u made up some shit, dont u see have pathetic it is
For the 7900XTX to be worth good value it would have to cost around $800-$850
Amd GPUS would have beat nvidia if their GPUS run ray tracing good
I literally just got mine for 846…
@@squad-kl3ek no one. cares. about. ray tracing. you literally are brainrot ppl. there are 4 new GOOD games with ray tracing. most ppl play OLDER games with no even RT available. and other group of players play competitive games and they care about fps not rt. xD
Ray tracing is still in the distant future in native 4k
I wouldn’t necessarily consider it “distant”, considering some games can run it pretty well, especially when super optimised for it in a Console. But I do agree, it’s going to be a while before it becomes as “mainstream” as, for example, 4K gaming is now. That was distant only a few years ago.
I do think it’s good that we’re pushing for new technology as a community, but I feel as though lighting engines are so good anyway, and with a good developer behind a good game, ray tracing simply makes no real and tangible difference to me. It takes a huge performance hit for not much better visuals.
@@Ash-re2fe It's a great argument
RT is overated
@@luissuarez8961 So was 60 fps at one point in time
@@luissuarez8961nope, wait till game developers implement light RT in every game
Aqui no brasil a diferença de valor é de 1000 reais, 180 dólares a favor da AMD, a 7900xtx por 6500 reais, ou 1172 dólares, contra 7500 reais ou 1352 dólares pela 4080s. A duvida é, em quanto tempo a conta de luz iguala esse valor com esses 100w a mais que a placa da AMD consome?
Both are amazing cards. I think it comes down to which is more important to you; VRAM or RT.
One small thing to notice is how very little the 7900XTX frame times are a little more stable than the 4080 Supers I mean look at Alan Wake on the 7900XTX it may have had 22 fps but the frame times were near perfect
As much of a fanboy I am for Nvidia, I just cant spend an extra $3-400 more for a 4080 when the 7900xtx is a better buy/deal and pretty much a better card.
4080 super is the clear winner - esp. considering it consumes almost 100w less than the 7900 xtx for similar performance, enough said.
The super came out over a year after the 7900xtx lol. You should compare it the the gpu it came out with, the non super. Else it would be fair to say that the 7900 is better then 3080, which it obviously is but thats not a fair comp
@@thor.halsli The 4080 non super is NOT that much slower than the 7900xtx and 4080super.
Even a 4080 is considerably faster in heavy RAY TRACING than 7900xtx.
@@adlibconstitution1609 I could say the same the other way around, the 7900xtx is NOT that mush slower then the 4080super. And 6 years after ray tracing came it's still isn't worth the bad performance. You’re looking at a maximum of 30fps in games with resolutions ranging from sub-1080p to 1440p
@@thor.halsli Look at Hogwarts Legacy RT the 4080super can hit a very PLAYABLE 100fps in 1440p while the 7900xtx cannot even hit 60fps.
A 4080 can deliver nearly same RT performance as a 4080super which can deliver above 80fps RT in 1440p.
The 7900xtx is way behind than even the 4080 non-super in RT.
@@adlibconstitution1609 7900 xtx does not claim to be a ray tracing card. And why would they, no one uses ray tracing. Nvidia biased a 120fps in 4k when the 4080 released, it failed to deliver that.
I'm all about the power consumption and DLSS (including FG)... which is why I went with the 4070 ti Super.
nvidia just simply dominating w 4000 series
@@iikatinggangsengii2471they really aren’t, their 4000 series made so many AMD buyers
In my country these two have the same price lol
Where are you?
Easy choice then. The only edge 7900XTX has is price. One should be out of his mind to choose it over 4080S with the same price. lol
@@someperson1829 yea and no…
So you get dlss and better rt but only on 3 games that have really rt.
So if you play cyberpunk and love it then go for the 4080s.
But only then.
@@listX_DE bro, same price, better RT and upscale tech, better driver and support, yes the RX has like 5-10% performance and 8 GB Vram but 16GB it just too enough for anh games nowaday, not to mention the 4080S eat less power than the 7900XTX
@@listX_DE He just went through small about of games. There are more broad tests in games, where 4080S wins even in raster. With new drivers 7900XTX lost that edge in raster, now extra VRAM is the only edge it has, that it will not be able to utilize properly anyway. lol
Eu acredito no seguinte… quem compra essas placas de vídeo vai querer tudo no ultra, com RT e DLSS… e a NVIDIA é a melhor até então
I have 7900xtx, but I do think it should be at least $200 cheaper than 4080 S.
hopefully amd focuses fixing raytraycing performance on next gen. i would give up on making highend gpus too if i couldnt deliver great performance on a popular setting.
What is the annoying ambient noise that is always on the Starfield benchmark omg
No way 7900XTX has under 350W. Unless you got the reference model, don't know about those... BUT to even get to 350W, you have to limit the power to -10%, at default Is 390W and on +15% it's 450W. I can't even trust those benchmark's
AMD MBA reference models are indeed 355w. I got one on launch day and it's performing pretty well at that wattage. a good 5% less than what the Nitro+ of a friend ran at with 420w.
All RX 7900XTX's also support +15% power limit, even the MBA card included. so you could push 405w through the MBA card still despite it only having 2x 8-pin power, but 355w seems to be the efficiency sweetspot for RX 7900XTX.
The FPS seems realistic here from my experience. a 7900XTX on stereoids (so a nitro+ at +15% which is basically 480-500w) will perform closer to a 4090 than to a 4080S. but that's to be expected at that power draw tbf. N31 scales pretty well with power. der8auer did a overclock and the thing could even run at 3.4ghz oc @ 650w just with a regular waterblock mostly stable.
Bro in some titles I use radeon chill and set the FPS to 120 and it chills around 350 or less.
My Xfx 7900 xtx pulls 450w easily out of the box. Had to upgrade from an 850watt to a 1000watt
I own both cards and the xtx beats the 4080 in most games without ray tracing. If I had to choose between the two of them I'd go with the 7900xtx. I play games in native 4k and amd is more powerful
wow that 4080 Super is very efficient relatively, I thought my 4070S was pretty good but that just may be even more frames/Watt.
try undervolting your 4070 super, got mine donw 35% while keeping 95% of its power
1000€ for a 4080s worth? O wait for a 5000 series gpu?
how come there is a 350w air gpu cooler that keeps the gpu around 60c and no 250w air cpu cooler that can keep ip un der 80c :(
Different processors have different heat dissipation characteristics, same cooler may cool radeon gpus better than nvidia regardless of power use.
Gpus have lot larger surface area which increases cooling efficiency. If you want to make you cpu cooler, get some better thermal paste or drop the frequency and voltage
Tbh, if your cpu is 80c under heavy load, it's completely normal
в видеокартах прямой контакт на кристалл.
My gpu is like 10% slower than the 4080s so it's nice to know my card will be outperforming the 7900 xtx in most cases
The AMD 7900XTX looks great for the money.
On XTX sure over 90°c hotspot
im just saying if youre going to use the gpu for a while and wont replace it consider the 4080s notice that with power efficiency nvidia wins and there are still problems with amd graphics cards that uses 500w on overwatch and other fps games that dont use a lot of the gpu while any other nvidia graphics card pulls at least half of that
I went with the 4080 S. I would've gotten the 7900XTX but it was $100 more at the time. (Ik shocker right?)
Plus, I get raytracing, better VR support, and top notch rendering support. Which AMD either does not do, or do very well.
Yes. nVidia is the best.
How was it cheaper? Holy shit at 900€? Normal the 4080 was 1200€ 200€ more for even less performance.
@@listX_DE 4080 Super not 4080
@@KelvinKMS No 4080
@@listX_DE4080 Super is cheaper than 4080
Great video, didn’t drag out anything with useless yapping. Thank you
Really finally found an outlet for information without all the talk, because sometimes it can side track you in your search for answers to questions, GREAT JOB/WORK 👍🏿👏🏿👏🏿💕💯💯💯💪🏿👑
Was looking for this exactly! High end GPUs for 1440p high refresh rate gaming, any chance you can do the 4090 too? Thanks!
4090 is in another league
4090 is in another league dude, if your looking at buying one it means you can afford one, and if you can afford one the go for it, its literally the most powerful gaming gpu on planet earth right now
You might as well wait for the 5090 to drop bro
Yeah but paying 2k for a gpu is nuts
@@codycrabtree3684 Its actually starting from 1.700 you can find a one with 1.7K dollars but yeah. Back in the day when people could buy a high end flagship gpu at only 700 dollars.
Does your rig have a cup cooler attached the xtx?
I got the 7900 xtx the day it was released,, reason, the 4080 was $200 more on its release day. 1000 vs 1200.. I dont really care about RT ..
You bought 1000+ dollars for GPU and still can't turn on ray tracing settings? That must be suck. You said you don't care about RT, but i know deep down you want those relism in lighting.
@@ardi1606 In games like COD and other competitive shooters, ray tracing makes it more diffecult to see enemies and slows down the fps, In games like cyberpunk RT off looks sharper and clearer, and that is what I prefer. It is a personal preference and not worth $200 extra to have to look hard to notice rt on.
not everyond cares about some bullsh*t lightning effect @@ardi1606
@@rodhester2166ray tracing is a gimmick still, if you really want rt, wait until cards come out that better optimize it and games that come out to also better optimize it. That guy in the comments is blowing air up you.
Yep. Looks like I'll be pulling the trigger on the 4080 S soon.
good work for nvidia with this gen!!!!!3000series was outperform by 6000 a 3080 ti in my country was at 1300 euros on my country while a 6900xt was 1000 and way more beastt!!!!NOW we have to give it to nvidia both 7900xtx with 4080 s have almost the same price at raw power both cards are almost same both beast!!!!ray tracing as ti goes is more visible and you can use it and dlss3 i wayy more better than previus......BOTH CARDS the goats but for me this gen nvidia almost wins they improved a lot!!!!
I've got a 3080ti and downloaded Lossless scaling the other day... Cyberpunk 2077 everything on ultra RT and Path tracing 75 to 90 fps LOL! It has its glitches graphically, but its amazing! Should keep me going for a generation until AMD or some other company turns up and allows me to get away from Nvidia!
Why do you keep showing RX 7900XTX as $1000?
Even the most expensive ones don’t usually that price and you can find many for $900
He's including 1 year extra electricity bill. lol
the only 7900xtx worth buying is the Sapphire Nitro, which is close to $1000. The rest have absurd hot spot temps
Bruh, the 4080 Super consumes the same as my 3070 Ti, sometimes even AFTER an undervolt 😭
In 1000$ or more def going with nvidia but for 600 and lower def with amd, that's how i see it. And i am talking about gaming ofc
In the next 2 years, if AMD does not improve RT and FSR closer to Nvidia's, it will be a death sentence for them, because RT is being included in the standard by companies because of its benefits in reducing development time and costs. games, especially the much improved RT performance and the participation of the Lumen solution
RDNA 4 leaks that have been DMCA'd by sony, it states that RT performance is doubled, up to quadrupled in some instances. so dont worry about RT as AMD will catch up, at least to 40 series at a minimum.
True not dead but true. Most people dont play Heavy RT its also not mainstream. The AMD cards can ez use handle RT but not the heavy one and even the heavy can be counted by hand.
@@listX_DE there will be more and more game live avatar that has the RT enabled in game.
@@lethanhtung4972 could be but by then we are at 6090 or some shit
how many console games have rt lol 😂
I can't help but feel AMD really failed this gen at the high end... their products aren't bad, they just chug back so much power to keep up.
Kinda like what Intel does with CPU's 😅
since rtx radeon cant keep up anymore
but 7900xt/xtx are the only radeon worth buying imo, trust me
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I've got the 7900XTX... 420W TDP and can't reach 4090 perf.. 😅
@AxleLotl You expected 4090 performance from something that's literally cheaper than the 4080?
@thebeast12333 reading comprehension /10
Since I stated that AMD failed the high end and we were talking about power draw. My 7900XTX uses 90% of the 4090 TDP. It's a shame that it maxes out at about 70% the performance in most titles.
Why is the amd card using so much more vram?
because nvdia has a vram compression tecnology
@@olocinzoppasso why we lyin?
Because it’s able too
That's allocated VRAM, not actually used VRAM.
Huge, if you’re the 1% of the population that actually cares about and regularly uses RT features.
@User-delulush0u Lol, what? No one buys an Xbox or PS5 because of RT. Companies can try to sell this feature as much as they want but so many games don’t utilize it nor do gamers necessarily even want to use it when available.
RTX 40 series have the best power efficiency !! AMD is bad !!!
We'll see what the next generation of cards brings but AMD definitely stood well against Nvidia this generation, I'm thrusting into the radeon 8000 series even if it's already been stated they'll focus on it being mid-range cards
uff red 348W + vs green 260W+/-
In Australia, the cheapest 7800xtx Vs the cheapest 4080s is about 200 USD, how much is rt worth? Price conversion for cheapest Vs cheapest is 920usd Vs 1120usd, and this is after both have dropped down roughly 150 usd
Get the 4080s.
At the low/midrange end, AMD wins.
At the highend, heres a comparison:
7900xtx: Gaming, FSR, RT bad.
4080S: Gaming, DLSS, Creator tools, Workstation, CUDA, Rasterization 1-5% worse, RT great, PT great.
At the highend you shouldnt mind an extra 200 usd for more uses and features.
ESPERA...!!!
COMO PUEDE SER QUE SOLO TENGAS 107 A 114 FPS JUGANDO A 1440p CON UN RYZEN 7800X3D???
YO TENGO UN 5800X CON LA MISMA PLACA DE VIDEO Y JUGANDO EN 4K TODO FULL, TENGO LA MISMA CANTIDAD E INCLUSO UN POQUITO MAS DEPENDIENDO LA ZONA DEL MAPA. 🤔🤔🤔
Dont care about "RAY TRACING". Currently on a 7800xt and am going to get the 7900xtx in a couple weeks. Couldn't be happier.
Everyone is sitting here laughing at the few times that the 7900xtx had drops in performance, and tbh even if it was consistently 100 watts more, it would still be a way better deal then a 4090 that’s almost double the price. Because 2000$ minimum for a part that is rivaled by something at least 700$ cheaper not a good deal, no matter how u twist it
So the 4080 Super is a better deal than 7900 XTX right?
We are waiting for 4080 ti super 😂
At this point, we're waiting for the 5080 Ti!
@@selohcin There won't be one because 5090 is dual gpu.
@@club4ghz Nvidia can make a dual-die 5070 and call it the 5080 Ti if they want to.
@@club4ghz What does that mean?
@@Xilent1 It means that 5090 will be made of two 5080's. Dual GPU's in the past were rare and built only if they couldn't get much gains over the previous model on a single chip, they are reserved only for one card in the lineup on the highest end just to keep Nvidia on the top of the hill.
They are hotter, more power hungry and cost more to produce, 5090 will be built on three PCB's according to the leaks and probably launch at $2000 if not more.
I decided to buy RTX 4080 SUPER
You did the right choice.
very silly decision when we're super close to new generations, shouldve waited 5 more months
@@Definedd If you don't have a PC or your GPU is too old, what do you do to wait 5 more months, no one will do that, buy a new GPU now because in the next 5 months there will only be RTX 5090, RTX 5080 will have to wait at the earliest. At the end of the first quarter of 2025, during that time, if you save a good amount of money, reselling and upgrading the RTX 4080 Super is still very good because it is still new and you do not spend much money on it.
@@Definedd He technically got 5070 but earlier and with 16 gigs of vram instead of 12. But yeah, the golden rule is always buy high end gpu at launch.
@@Definedd your are tripping bro. Every generation had problems on release. Might as well wait for the 8080Ti for 10k resolution. Dumb comment on waiting.
The RT and power difference is embarrasing at this level. 4080 super is the clear choice.
The left one is pretty much my build expect I have a GIGABYTE B650I AORUS ULTRA mini-itx motherboard
I wish people would test more multiplayer games. I don’t care about fps in single player games lol
On average 7900 xtx is faster 5 % than 4080 super . It's not enough to
It isn't. It depends on the choice of the games. There are more broad tests around, where 4080S dominates even in pure raster.
4080s clearly took the win on this one; if u pay this much on a gpu you are very likely to have bought it for heavy games which use rt
No framegen' test?
Best testing games channel
Lohnt sich eine 4080 super noch?
nein
Only if you care about RT.
Lieber auf 5080 und 5090 release warten und schauen was Preis/Leistung mehr Sinn dann macht
außer
Raytracing: Nvidia aber erst ab 4080 alles drunter kannste my mind in die tonne werfen
DLSS/FSR: (beides für mich totale unschärfe das es mir weh tut in den augen) Nvidia
Willst einfach die größte Gaming Leistung jetzt und in der Zukunft kauf AMD
@@flamingophone And upscaling quality.
Idk... i have a 4070 and am thinking about upgrading bit IDK what to! I love nvida upscale bit $$ to proformance. Ill wait till i vsn get a 4090 for 1000
7:04 la xtx es muy buena tarjeta grafica calidad precio 👌 (tambien la 4080 solo decepciona su vram)
AMD has a bad power problem. That thing requires a nuclear reactor.
NGL in some titles like DayZ ive seen my 7900xtx nitro shoot to 580watts like in certain scenarios when you alt tab back into games
But I mean, with a 1600w psu and +15% on the power limit.
4080 best choice
Amd=Vram
Nvidia=Ray tracing
Es de lo que prefieras, para mi es mas importante la vram escojo amd, y si para ti es mas importante el rt escoje nvidia.
man the 7900 xtx does chug a lot of power
Je vois du 1080 a gauche et du 4k a droite ,donc 10fps de moins ca me va
Et le raytracing ?
Qualite du fsr vs dlss ?
Etc etc
Break it down into a single comment if you want to play competitive video game use AMD if you want to play long cinematic role-play story games get an Nvidia
In Türkiye, 7900xtx is 1090$, 4080s is 1270$. So my 635$ 7800 xt is the beast at 1440p gaming.
*In Turkey
@@kallnuxlive8095 *In Türkiye
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@@kallnuxlive8095Turkey officially changed its English name to "Türkiye" in June 2022 to better reflect its authentic Turkish spelling and pronunciation. This move aimed to reinforce the country's national identity and distinguish it from the English word "turkey," which refers to the bird. The change was part of a broader effort led by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to standardize the use of "Türkiye" internationally in diplomatic and commercial contexts. The United Nations acknowledged this change, and it has since been adopted by various international organizations and media outlets.
Bizim firmalar aç gözlü olduğundan en pahalı biz alıyoruz, ellerinden gelse 500 dolarlık kartı 1000 dolara satışa çıkarırlar.
In my country RTX 4080 Super is cheaper by $100, which one should i get?
wish i see what FPS will show Nvidia, if their card will eat same power as AMD
4080 no competition. Runs cooler uses less power, and for only $100 more? Yeah I’m taking the 4080.
This mf tested 1440p over 4k gpus lmfao
some games are already hitting 16gb vram, and most of us buy gpus for next 3-4years and imagine the vram usage of games in the future lol, its a better option to choose 7900xtx over 4080s because of more rasterization performance, less price and more vram instead of RT performance which is still not even 1% of the total games!
At 1000 vs 1200 the XTX could be considered but at 1000 vs 1000 it's a bloodbath
Both are overpriced, the 4080 SUPER is not much faster than the 4070 Ti SUPER while being $200 more expensive. 7900 XTX on the other hand is quite a bit the same too, though you're losing 4GB of VRAM.
4 GB don't you know 7600 XT 16 GB Vram has same performance 7600 XT 8 GB Vram just a little more fast.
Vram is less important in cards.
@@_Talyson that's right, but not the case for all cards though, like the 7900 XT and XTX
@@shadowlemon69 Ok, but nano chip and CUD in 7900 XTX is better and different than 7900 XT the same for rtx 4090 and 4080 super.
4090 > 4080 super is better not because vram bur yes CUD and nano
@@_Talyson what's CUD and nano?
It is really important if you plan on upgrading every 5-6 years@@_Talyson
When it comes to real performance 7900xtx first was far better buy than 4080 and again with new 4080s without ray tracing 7900xtx is better gpu . Im using amd cpu so i use less power nvidia+intel . But bust buy is def used 6800 .
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ridiculous performance for AMD in RT,lost 200/300% performance
Why the XTX use so much power?
Is raytracing on ?
Ахах, достаточно посмотреть на разницу в фпс и энерго потреблении, выбор очевиден 😂
If to play with ray tracing - rtx 4080 is better
Então, a AMD sempre vence em força bruta, mas deixa a desejar em programação RT e DLSS - Nvidia, nesse ponto sempre supera, atualizando constantemente e dando grande enfase em suporte... AMD sempre é bom em custo e benefício, mas para quem quer aproveitar toda a tecnologia Nvidia sempre supera. =/
So pretty much if you want RT get the 4080 super but if you dont care for RT then get the 7900 xtx
4080s ~ 3070 230w 😮