Shure SRH1840 | neutrality at its best
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- Review: Shure SRH1840
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One of the best headphone review I've seen in a long time. Thanks Damir.
I’ve been using these for around 5 months. I agree with nearly everything you say... except one point, you emphasise that these aren’t the phones for listening to everything. I’d agree in terms of recreational listening, but these are pro level mixing and mastering headphones. This is why the stereo field is so wide (that and the fact that open backs are wider anyways). In the mixing scenario you want neutrality all of the time, so that you aren’t over emphasising in the process... this goes for all genres of mixing. Later on you go to other “coloured” headphones to tweak those bits that may need more emphasis but that’s what these are designed for, high precision mixing :) I get that my application isn’t what this review is aimed at but I just thought I’d chip in for a little extra clarification, awesome review!
Fantastic review sir, absolutely convinced me that these need to be my next pair of headphones. Love Shure!
4 Shure! And it is confirmed by both the review from What HiFi & Sound on Sound. Which i encourage people to read! 👍
I've had them for a week. Today I went to a HiFi store where my friend works. I tested them on a hi end DAC and Amp, and compared to HD600, HD660s, HD800 and Bayerdynamic DT 1990. And...at least when it comes to stage and separation they were beaten only by HD800. Unfortunately we have found some weird resonances in them on one recording with low African drums. We changed channels - the "dirt" went to the other channel so it's not faulty driver (unless both failed the same way). And that sheds light on why they are not so popular. There were some measurements published on the internet showing their high THD. Well - if that wasn''t audible - it'd be fine, but it's clearly audible. it's a pity, as apart from that one flaw they are really great
Neat Review! And 4 Shure! Both the review from What HiFi, & Sound on Sound are very positive on these 1840's, which we can encourage people to read as well! 👍
I have these they are great for mixing.
I do think they have a little too little bass.
That is fixed with putting a few cotton balls in each ear pad and does not hurt the perfect highs and mids
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When new, the mids can be a little jarring on percussive sounds, but that mellows out over time.
This is probably the most neutral headphone you can buy for mixing.
The sound stage is not as wide as my other open backs though.
But more realistic.
The cables are proprietary which I hate, and quite flimsy.
And breaded solid after market and balanced ones are ridiculously expensive.
Pads are super comfortable and the lightweight is great.
Solid metal construction.
One bad part is the headband padding is extremely cheap and glued on.
Shure can do better in that one area, and include a better braided cable
This sound is exceptional with any LG quad dac phone, or amp dac combo they are worth it.
Well produced, high quality review. Touching on practicality of wearing and using the headphone very well and You describe the sound characteristics in detailed technically salient, yet relatable and non-exclusionary for novices! Also on a weird last note, You have a realy cool headshape :D
lol. The last note got me.
Good review; thank you. The 1840 is excellent for classical and jazz listening. It is also worth pointing out that Dekoni Audio have brought out two alternative pads for these 'phones; a 'suede' and a 'leather' pair.
These are well worth purchasing as they alter the sound signature and are way more comfortable that the Shure earpads.
Nitpicker...This was the exact review I was looking for!... As a Voice Over artist I was on the market to get a shockingly set of neutral headphones for mixing my VO's on the road. After reading tons of reviews on Sweetwater and Adorama of others saying they have been able to complete a mixing/mastering session on these headphones and they translate over to monitors with little to no tweaking necessary I decided to hit UA-cam to check out some reviews. I came across your review and based on the information I have chosen to commit to these headphones as I need the portability of headphones with the neutrality of studio monitors. Great Review! and as a fellow content creator I wish you nothing but success on your channel!
Thanks, good luck with the headphones
In terms of bass, I have been listening to a radio station called Deep House Radio (hence a lot of bass...) recently and using these SRH1840s the quality of the bass I find is outstanding and I can listen for long periods without fatigue. I recently replaced my SE535s with the SE535 ltds which I find are of a similar balance (bit more bass and treble than the SE535s) but these have the edge. Note that I was driving them from my ipad pro but had to switch to using an audioquest dragon cobalt as these phones were that revealing, but I am really very happy with the combination - very neutral and smooth and none fatigueing.
I have been able to drive these with a smartphone, so I don't think that an amp is necessary, although it is definitely recommended. I really love the sound of these though, the bass volume seems just right, and the level of detail is a huge upgrade over my previous headphones.
Love your reviews! keep it up
From what I understand the issue is while the sensitivity is high, meaning a smartphone will give you volume, any frequencies requiring more energy would rendered with less clarity and accuracy. Like my smartphone can get my HD 650s up to more than enough volume, it just sounds off.
Great review. Have one since day one and still enjoy it as a daily desk driver. There are "better" and more expensive headphones out there but these can be used for both mixing and sound enjoyment to a great degree. Carpenter Brut kicks ass in these matched with a good amp :)
That's what I thought the point was to be neutral why do people always want more. and remember that these earphones are made to be revealing so if your getting any harsh high's it's cause the mix it self was probably equalized to death in the high's so a lot of times it's probably just the mix it self not the thing your listening on.
Nice review. Would you possibly be able to review the BeyerDynamic DT 990 32 ohm at some stage?
Hi Damir,thank you for another excellent review!What do you think is the better companion for these headphones,if you wanted to own just two pairs,Hd600 or Hd650?
Thank you! I just ordered the HD6xx on Massdrop.They ship in August,but I already have these Shures to get me through the wait :)
nice video bought
a pair for myself
Great review!
Thanks for a great video!
I had the Amiron homes for about two weeks and had to return them cause they were very fatiguing to my ears.
would these be a good alternative for me?
they would be used for gaming(csgo etc) and very varied music everything from compressed videogame music to jazz.
nvm sounds like they sounded bright and harsh on vocals?
the more reviews I read/watch the more confused I get as to what headphone would suit me.
buying headphones in the 300-800 is way too hard.
People tend to count out Shure, their lower end has issues with build quality, but their sound is amazing for the price on the low end.
Amo estos headphones, gran revision
What’s the best neutral head phone for mixing and mastering for $500 or under? A lot of headphone reviews say they have a bass cutoff are there any good headphones in that price point that don’t cut off the low end & has a nice neutral sub bass & bass?
Hi, thanks for a very valuable and informative review. I'm about to purchase a pair as they seem ideal. Can I ask, what would be the consequence of trying to drive them from my MacBook Pro given their impedance and sensitivity? The impedance seems OK, but 96DB sensitivity seems low. Would it just be a volue issue, or are they going to sound poor? I don't mind buying an outboard amp but just wondered. I would not wan to drive them from a phone.
Hi Damir. Do you have a favorite go to pair of headphones?
Great review, love your explanation and am seriously considering them.. wou ld you still recommend these now you have tried the 660’s or others? I have your same forehead and so comfort up top is very important to me. Thanks
I personally like the 660s or 58X a lot more by now especially for music enjoyment not so much neutrality etc
@@TheNitpicker Thanks so much for your fast response. The 660's literally just dropped in price so I am off to buy, again, due to your recommendation.
Open back headphone, wide stereo image and increased depth of field. So very very best.
Hello! What would you recommend to me from these two headphones for a quiet home listening
Firstable congratulations for your UA-cam channel. I wanted to ask you what's the video set up you use, the video quality it is stunning. How you setup the the video camera options? thanks a lot man .
Back then I guess it just have still been the Panasonic G7 with 25mm 1.7 lense to record me and the Sony A6000 50mm 1.8 to record the device.
By now I've switched to 4K60 with the Fuji X-T3 and 35mm f2 lense.
I'm actually sure though someone with more experience and knowledge could achieve way better video, I just set things to look decent imo
thanks man for answering
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How would you compare these to the SHP9500 in terms of comfort, mixing, and gaming?
Hello Damir how are you man? Quick question ,, im about to buy a new phone , which do you think i should go for ,,, mi note 3 , honor 7x or mate 10 lite ,,,, great honest work by the way , thanks
Damir Franc thanks much appreciated , keep going bro , you are one of few that i trust on youtube , thanks again
which headphone is a clear step up from these two for mastering classical music?
ich wundere mich auch warum es nicht mehr Tests von dem shure srh1840 gibt. Danke für das Video, ich werde mir die Kopfhörer am anhöher, ich suche welche zum Mastern von klassicher Musik. Welche Kamera hast du bei diesem Video benutzt? Gute Farben und Schärfe. Grüße aus Berlin
Hey brother. Now that you have reviewed the 660s, what is better overall for you, the 660s or the 1840's? Thanks for you the great reviews, really appreciate them!
Thank you!
@Damir_Franc What would you say are the most noticable differences in sound between these and the Beyerdynamic Dt1990?
In both videos you mention how these are detailed and neutral. I would like to know what differences are most obvious to you and which you think would be better for mixing and mastering.
Were the beyerdynamic highs too harsh even with both pad options?
Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
What did you drive those with for the review? Because when I tried them out lately with only my LG V20 my initial thought was that it was very bass-heavy compared to Sennheiser HD700 for example without sacrificing detail and clarity. I deemed it a very swiss knife for everything. And a clear winner in this price range. You have to get to Sennheiser HD800 to get clearly better sound, but still thinner bass compared to SRH1840.
Well, I consider the V20 quad Dac very neutral. It is a bit weaker in driving bass than for example my ifi micro iDSD Black Label (Which I hadn't brought that time), but as long as the V20's power is enough, it isn't very far behind. Then I am not going to even start to try and compare it to any closed or semiclosed set of headphones. I only use those types in the studio for practical reasons. There need to be big planar drivers to get even near close to closed headphones bass reproduction, which almost always is WAY to heavy in my experience. My point is that when comparing the 1840 to similar sets, you need to go to HD700 and T70 and the likes, and it will outperform in pretty much anything, especially bass reproduction.
How do these compare to the Ultrasone sig pro interms of sound? More neutral?
hello! have you listened to grado rs2е? I wonder which ones are better?
10:16 yeah, with these headphones you can hear this adorable stomach sounds too
lmfao, cheers to you for catching that. I already loved this review, but your comment made me enjoy it even more. lol
I'm looking for a open back mastering headphone focused on neutral frequency range. I work in films industry and I have already ordered a pair of closed back HD 300 for use in field recording and critical listening /audio repair/restore/cleanup.
Now I would like a pair of open headphones for mastering/reference and possibly mixing. I have nailed it down to Sennheiser hd 600 and these shure 1840 because I read that these have a very neutral sound.
As I mentioned, neutral sound is a very important factor. I also value comfort highly because I will use them for long periods. Which of these two suits me best?
between the 2 I'd say the sure even though I guess many would say 600HD with Sonarworks would be even better
I own these, I like them but I prefer my 1540s because the 8k peak kills me... In my opinion a good alternative to these is the audio technica AD2000x.I would love to know your thoughts on those
What AMP/DAC do you usually use? I recommend you to get the Audio-GD NFB 11.28 or the R2R 11.
But what's the actual AMP/DAC that you use?
Hello man, congratulations for your channel, great demos!!! I need a headphones for mixing and mastering to have another refference appart from my speaker monitors. I bought the Beyerdynamic 1990 pro and I didn't like it at all, they have a boost on the highs and Im looking for something really flat. Between the HD 660 S and Shure SHR 1840 which one would you recommend me? thanks man for your time.
I'd go 660S or 58X, almost the same, just cheaper, they are a bit more colored than the 1840 but have a wieder frequency response, also besides mixing more fun if needed
Thanks for your answer. If you think the 1840 are flater than the HDs I probably go for the Shure.I want something really flat.@@TheNitpicker
They might have been lacking a bit in bass but I'd definitely call them more flat and it has plenty highs but not 1880 heavy
thanks man for your time, I think I will be able to compensate the bass thing using the Refference 4 EQ corrector.@@TheNitpicker
Can I use this for my iPhone 8 plus
Here is track mixed & mastered in this headphones. Sorry for just part of song. Can't publish full version at the moment :)
ua-cam.com/video/13TkfgpsinM/v-deo.html
Where can I buy it in flac/wav?
Hello,
Did that Shure srh1840 will be good for studio work on the same level like Beyerdynamic 1990 pro .. thanks
They don't quite have the responviness and precision in bass, but too me felt also more neutral, some might say slightly thin though
Thanks for answear,
Tommarow shopping time and that hard to choice for me. Don’t have local shop to testing. Thanks
I listen to metal alot and some EDM here and there. I was curious to know which of the two, Shure 1840 or Beyerdynamic DT1990 would be better for my genre of music?
Definitely the 1990 because the 1840 isn't a bass monster, even though I wouldn't use the 1990 for that purpose either
@@TheNitpicker Billy Castaneda I don't really think you need powerful bass with metal music. My complaints for ages is that the most popular headphones have too much bass for metal (literally gave away my HD 449s because it can't do metal, DT 880s were massively disappointing)...what you need for metal is instrument separation and very tight bass. (If you play instruments in a metal band, you will hate powerful bass)
Strong bass is a pop and rap/RNB thing. I use Klipsch headphones for studio sessions.
Hi Damir...can 1840 it be used for casual listening in iphone ? How is quality of music without amps ?
sure you can run the 1840 off a phone but it will sound just ok. The subbass rubble is still there but the soundstage is alot more compressed.
which is the best headphone you have heard for imaging? i play a lot of fps shooting games and need a headphone to pinpoint enemies. i also listen to a lot of classica music.
Are the Beyer T1 (1st gen) good?
never heard the T1, the Sennheiser HD800s was great but I didn't like the signature that much
@@TheNitpicker
Thank you. What didn't you enjoy about them?
Please review the fidelio L2, it is another headphone that rarely get talked about.
I had this headphone. Fantastic sounding for the price, way underrated considering how few people talk about it. My only gripe was that it produced pain on top of my head after wearing it for a while.
@@RobTi yes I notice that.
A crochet head band helps a lot.
@@Tigerex966 I’m sure it does but that is still a design flaw if it needs something external to fix the comfort issue.
its hard to find videos about of these headphones
Spot On! - A hidden Gem? 👍
Does the SRH1840 have a bigger or smaller soundstage than the AKG headphones like K702?
never heard the K702
@@TheNitpicker No problem. I see you've heard the DT 1990 Pro though... Does the SRH1840 have a bigger soundstage than that? And is it brighter overall than the DT 1990 Pro? Also, how much bigger is the HD800s's soundstage than the SRH1840's? Thanks
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that thumbnail looks like you doing something else lol. great vid tho
not good for listening dubstep but if you want to mix or work dubstep in the studio do they work?
Imo no since the whole bass portion comes a bit too short to make you hear all necessary bass frequencys well enough to mix it properly but I don't mix so I'm not the best guy to judge
@@TheNitpicker thank you :)
Shure 1840 vs HD600/650 for classical music or fps gaming?
You can't go wrong with those three, they each are directed to one preference (with a cost naturally).
The one that I can say is more fit for varying sounds, would be the Shure 1840.
Here is why, the 1840 is the least colored, but the one aspect in which it is colored is in the high frequencies, which is a plus and negative. The plus is that this additional focus on the highs allows the sound stage to widen a bit more and allows imaging positioning to be better. The negative however, is that the highs can be fatiguing to hear, they can hurt the ears (not screechy, the highs are well defined, just about 3 or 4 or so decibels too high).
For classical music, you can more easily pinpoint where the instruments are coming from, and if the sound is meant to sound a bit distant - it will sound a bit distant (soundstage). The important disclaimer is that because classical music tends to favor high notes, this will be more tiring on the 1840 since it is already high focused. But, cello classical music seems to be less tiring than violin and upper notes of piano music. Male vocals are also not as tiring, but some female vocals can be more fatiguing.
The almost tied runner-up would be the HD650 because it gives music a very warm and smooth delivery of sound, a buttery luxury presentation, you won't find these fatiguing at all, you can listen all day. The clamping force is stronger on the head, but because the earpads are soft, it isn't hurting, it will simply surprise you, but after a few minutes you will be ok. The imaging and soundstage isn't as much as the the 1840.
The Shure has much more comfortable earpads. If you lower the highs with EQ, the 1840 no longer is fatiguing at all, you can listen all day, but you also lose the soundstage and imaging. (This is why I say the highs are a plus and negative, because if you keep the highs - they hurt a bit, but if you lower the highs - you sacrifice the imaging and soundstage). After EQ, the soundstage and imaging becomes similar to the HD600 & 650.
If you like the luxury sound that is very close to the ears (little to no soundstage, and if you are ok with lacking soundstage), then the HD650 is a perfect fit.
If a little too much highs are ok with you, and you prefer a bit better soundstage and imaging, then the 1840 is a perfect fit.
The low frequencies on the 1840 is the most neutral of the three, although not as tight as the HD600, but with the HD600 the lows are much quieter.
The best thing about the HD600 is that the bass is very tight and this gives it a good sound, but the bass is also very reduced, so they sound like they don't have enough bass. The 600 has the smallest soundstage of the three, the sounds are presented as if they were right next to your ear.
The HD650 has more bass than the HD600, and some people say they would like Sennheiser to make a headphone that is just in between the HD600 and HD650, because the 600 is too light on bass, but the 650 is a little bit too much upper-bass.
Well, the more upper-bass of the 650 is what gives it the smooth buttery presentation, so for me, it isn't too much upper-bass, it feels just right, but I can empathize with those that say it is a tad too boosted.
I was fortunate enough to be able to try out all these three headphones, and they all have their pros and cons (but not many cons, because sometimes the pros are viewed as cons to some people).
Warm and smooth sound that is close to the ears - you will like the 650.
Tight and well controlled bass with the sound extra close to the ears - you will like the 600.
Natural soundstage and more real imaging, with more neutral (least colored) sound, but with a bit too much highs - the Shure 1840 is for you.
Gaming, i am not into software games, i don't know how they would perform for competitive gaming.
Drop.com often sells new HD650's for a reduced price of about 200 dollars (great discount, but they don't accept returns, so if you buy it you can't return it for a refund), and the website Zzounds lets you pay for the 1840 in six payments of 75 dollars,(without needing credit card, but i am unsure if they allow returns on monthly setups). This isn't the fiscally responsible route, but it is very difficult to find someone that has these headphones to try them out before buying them.
I jumped the gun, and got the HD650 for 200, and it was a great buy. I then got the 1840 on a monthly plan, and it was also a great buy.
I wouldn't return either one.
If you are fortunate enough to find someone to let you try out these headphones, then you'll see why i described them in such ways.
I just got a listen to the 1440 and i think the highs and lows are nice and smooth and non fataguing unlike the hd600 harsh trebble. Would have gotten a pair if i didnt already have the r70x.
Good recomendation.
Im not sure about metal but for edm the bass is nice and clean and you can really enjoy the bass details
today I returned my sennheiser 660 because they were so uncomfortable -they arrived yesterday
Does the SRH 1840 have more bass than DT 1990?
No, way less
@@TheNitpicker Yeah, I saw the video after posting the comment.
Great review but i want to ask for watching movies which one is better shure 1840 or Sennheiser 660 , they will cost shure(400$) and 660(500$) in my contry, thanks in advance
The 660 should be better
@@TheNitpicker you are the best thanks for your fast reply
Sorry I didn’t understand what you said at 1:23 to 1:30
Would you please explain to me what you meant?
Damir Franc Thank you for your response! I am in search for a headphone for mixing and mastering, budget is not an issue and I want it to be neutral and flat as possible, by flat and neutral I mean no boosted frequencies. Also I need good stereo image. I was looking at focals and seinheisers, beyerdynamics and shures but to be honest I am lost and I would appreciate your suggestion,
Thanks in advance!
how's the highs compared to dt 1990 pro?
way less sharp
@@TheNitpicker I see. which will you buy? this or DT 1990? also, any recommendation for closed back? I am tired of M50x and my M70x just broke 2 weeks ago by removing it off my head (cheap plastic)
what do you wanna do with them?
@@TheNitpicker edit audio/mix
Then I guess the shure, even though most would go for the 1990 which I personally don't really like so much.
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Please say " GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
I like your objectivty (because that's what it is, and it is not even difficult) about the HD600. Its hype is irrational and mindless, and aside from what you mention, one notices even worse shortcomings, like a flabbiness in certain background sounds which are delivered cleanly by other headphones, even cheaper ones (since it's way overpriced anyway, but that's how Sennheiser rolls, sending their useless toys into the direct competition instead). And a muddiness...
Totally agree on the statement’s of the hd600, which is why I sold the hd600 long time ago and just ordered today the Shure 1840 hoping it will play things more cohesively. I will update how they sound here once I get them, will see if they are a step up.
I had a couple of weeks with the Shure’s and while they are a little sparkly in the treble I find them to be very good for mixing, as they translate really well onto my Neumann KH310’s monitors. I also use Sonarworks and they become even better, flattening out the frequencies. They lack a bit of punch, but there’s no muddiness and actually I made my songs more punchy thanks to them lacking in that aspect. I always wanted neutral or actually a better word is flat sounding headphones to do better mixes. All in all I’m quite happy with them.
@@MichalMikulskiMM Are you still happy? I've been wasting hours of my time for 15 days wanting to see if I can find something better than my 1840 shure and I'm not sure whether to abandon the search because I don't know if there is something flatter. I also have K120 and K310,
@@nakiradams Hey! After a year with them, I actually sold them not so long ago. The problem with the Shure is the bass. Too much distortion there as I read a article about them from sonarworks. I must agree, it did not help to mix bass, because of that. I think that an upgrade would be an Audeze lcd-x creator package, or massdrop x focal elex. Those two sound really nice.
@@MichalMikulskiMM Thanks for your answer, Elex again did not get. I think I'm going to have to go for the Clear. My idea is not to use concealer. Could you tell me if the LCD X can be used for Monitoring and Mastering without applying an EQ. They preferred not to use EQ
These headphones are cost more than my phone °_°
Damir Franc yeah i know like another shure headphone that cost $1000+ but i guess the sound and comfortability with it is really good
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