Can You Mix In Headphones? Closed vs Open Back for the Best Sound

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @inthemix
    @inthemix  5 років тому +499

    Timestamps
    1) 0:50 - Pros and Cons
    2) 8:30 - Which Ohm value sounds best
    3) 11:20 - Closed or Open Back?

    • @TruTimeRecords
      @TruTimeRecords 5 років тому +6

      Hey bro is 40ohms good?

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +12

      @@TruTimeRecords In the video I mention how it's all about the situation. 30 or 40 ohms often sounds amazing with the right equipment

    • @TruTimeRecords
      @TruTimeRecords 5 років тому +4

      @@inthemix ok bro thankyou soo much please make more videos about mix master i want to mix beats 808 snare hi hats perfectly 😭

    • @regularjoe3547
      @regularjoe3547 5 років тому

      Misspelling at the end of the description below the vid

    • @Musicdudeyoutub
      @Musicdudeyoutub 5 років тому +1

      Thanks for paying attention and responding!

  • @appezmusic
    @appezmusic 5 років тому +1020

    I have to mix in Headphones because I don't have the space nor the money for audio monitors. You need to make the best off of what you have! :)

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +235

      You're absolutely right!

    • @Light00000
      @Light00000 5 років тому +28

      Same
      ✊😔

    • @Light00000
      @Light00000 5 років тому +11

      Still love these videos tho

    • @yo-ha
      @yo-ha 5 років тому +3

      Same

    • @tinkerer67
      @tinkerer67 5 років тому +10

      It's difficult to get the low end right with headphones. Try to invest in a room and monitors.

  • @drjazz7278
    @drjazz7278 5 років тому +471

    People teaching good video communication skills should use your work as an example. Not a syllable or second wasted

    • @nohandle242
      @nohandle242 4 роки тому +8

      I so agree!

    • @jnny7182
      @jnny7182 4 роки тому

      So great

    • @alligator6985
      @alligator6985 4 роки тому

      100% agree!

    • @kane-111
      @kane-111 4 роки тому +10

      Agreed, if this dude was a salesman he'd be poppin' the fuck off lmao.

    • @eylam9690
      @eylam9690 4 роки тому +8

      Yeah, but it's also the calm tone of his voice and the pace Some people on youtube do my head in; it's like listening to an ad where they try and cram as many words into a minute as possible. By the time you are done watching you've got a headache. That or they give you anxiety...

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 3 роки тому +51

    Thank you for not being one of those "never mix in headphones" people. So many UA-camrs seem to not understand the reality of people's situations. Also, I've gotten some great results in headphones. It's all about understanding how things will translate.

  • @Zombies8MyPizza
    @Zombies8MyPizza 5 років тому +56

    You're always gonna get the best results using different sound devices. I do the majority of the work in my earphones. Then when I feel like I've got a basic mix done I'll use my monitors to fix things up. I also use my laptop speakers which are pretty good for general high-end mixing like the snares, hats etc. Then I use some open-backed headphones and check that everything still sounds good. Finally, I'll take out and use my car speakers, if there are low end issues then your car with its bass-heavy speakers and closed acoustic environment will expose them - don't forget that if it's a big track then a lot of people are gonna be listening in a car.

  • @Yourguitarworkshop
    @Yourguitarworkshop 4 роки тому +450

    Your videos are just pure gold! You're calm, choose your words well, and the content is just amazing. Subscribed!

  • @aphelien5858
    @aphelien5858 5 років тому +341

    You're videos are extremely informative, half of my knowledge of music production is from your videos only. Keep doing what you do:))))

  • @CONTEMNTheOfficial
    @CONTEMNTheOfficial 3 роки тому +1

    this guy is looking and talking not only clever and very polite but always gives you the best answers possible.

  • @emrazum
    @emrazum 5 років тому +18

    You inspired me to sit and enjoy my 990 pros, Open Back all the way!

  • @dannieh9849
    @dannieh9849 Рік тому +18

    This is not based off of this particular video, but rather after me watching several of yours over the past couple of days. Being a teacher myself, I'm really intrigued by your way of speaking calmly and focused to the camera. It's VERY evident that you know very much about the topic at hand. But you also have a way of really being present when you speak. I think I could listen to you for hours about any topic. Do you have anything to share regarding how you've become this good at teaching? Keep it up! You're really helping me sort out this production and mixing thing :D

    • @winstonsmith8240
      @winstonsmith8240 Рік тому +2

      He does exude confidence, ( not arrogance). I'm a luddite wishing to learn and he appears to be extremely knowledgeable on the subject. However, being a luddite, I wouldn't know 😅.

  • @christopherbarber288
    @christopherbarber288 5 років тому +57

    Thank you so much Michael, for all you do. I would've never have learned what I know now without knowledge like this. ❤

  • @BERNARJE
    @BERNARJE 4 роки тому +3

    I have done lot of projects for different clients in the past 20 years and most of my work was finished on headphones. My main work is demo recordings of classical music. I would say, using Studio Monitors are not essential for great final results. If you have really good headphones you can mix in them but, you have to listen to the mix also in different sources like crappy headphones, then on your cellphone, a pair of crappy stereo monitors, on your computer speakers. Not all of them but at least three different sources because at the end of the day most people that will look you out will listen to your tracks on cheaper headphones or computer speakers, so those are the sources that you can focus on. I love my headphones and I have the Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro. I use a headphone amplifier to bring the best volume to mix. I also listen to my mixes in mono and work on them a bit that way before the the mixdown. I also use a Phase meter on the master track to check for any phase problems. By the way, love the video. Just wanted to say that if I waited to have the best monitors, I would have never started on my business 20 years ago. Also most of my work is on the go and monitors and room acoustic treatment materials are not portable things. Cheers!

  • @kingdomainrsa9439
    @kingdomainrsa9439 5 років тому +211

    I'm new to the family but I feel so welcomed such a clear explanation 😎

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +25

      Glad to have you here!

    • @kingdomainrsa9439
      @kingdomainrsa9439 5 років тому +4

      @@inthemix I'm also glad guard me through.

    • @kingdomainrsa9439
      @kingdomainrsa9439 5 років тому +5

      I thought I was the only one experiencing irritation in my ears when I'm on it for a long time 😂

  • @artifexmusic
    @artifexmusic 5 років тому +103

    I'm in India. and I remember starting out on headphones and just finishing the project with sweat

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +28

      Yeah that's what I was on about, it's not pleasant is it!

    • @aphelien5858
      @aphelien5858 5 років тому +2

      I totally get you bro 😂😂

    • @artifexmusic
      @artifexmusic 5 років тому +2

      @@inthemix nope. definitely not

    • @navdeepthakur383
      @navdeepthakur383 5 років тому

      Do u produce music bro ? If yes then in which music style u produce ? If in Edm style then we can help each other .

    • @artifexmusic
      @artifexmusic 5 років тому +2

      @@navdeepthakur383 My main genre is hybrid trap but sometimes i can do some EDM like future house and future bass

  • @erikduijs2723
    @erikduijs2723 5 років тому +67

    I trust my headphones more than my monitors for mixing. Not that my studio monitors are bad (I think my A7Xs sound amazing) or because mixing on headphones is 'better', but my room acoustics are too problematic to rely on them and there's not much I can do about it, unfortunately. So I listen to my monitors for the more physical experience and to give me a perspective of how my mixes would sound in a room. But I mostly use my headphones to do the heavy lifting. And many people are listening through headphones anyway, so it's important to get this right too I suppose.
    That trick you mentioned of using the headphones as kind of little speakers on the table or something to judge balance is interesting. I should try that! What I often do for a similar purpose is routing my monitoring through a plugin that turns everything mono and rolls off the bass and highs quite dramatically, but the trick you mentioned sounds like a really useful hack for that too. You can never have enough different perspectives :)
    Anyway, thanks for the video!

    • @TheDutchCreeperTDC
      @TheDutchCreeperTDC 5 років тому

      Same! Whenever I do something that doesn't require very close listening like loose sound design and composition I do listen on my monitors but my monitor setup in my room is far from perfect and I'd have to invest a lot of time and money into it to be able to mix properly on them in my room.

    • @d-rockanomaly9243
      @d-rockanomaly9243 4 роки тому +3

      Personally, I feel like monitors are far more accurate when trying to balance the low end. If you get your bass sounding good on your monitors, they will likely sound good in other environments. When I get my bass to sound good on my headphones, the bass usually sounds way off on the monitors. Gotta use both really :p

    • @apollospyrol7168
      @apollospyrol7168 4 роки тому

      You amcant adjust your monitors?

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 4 роки тому

      same here my room is so bad that for years i couldnt get a proper mix with great studio monitors. was forced to use headphones once and et voila. now they sound way better. mixing in a bad room is absolutely fatal. a k.o. i might say whereas mixing with headphones is only slightly suboptimal. so always go with headphones in case of a bad room

  • @ferrisghazal7880
    @ferrisghazal7880 5 років тому +56

    Keep making amazing insightful videos! You’re a real blessing to all producers!

    • @doppewaxy282
      @doppewaxy282 5 років тому +2

      Thanks Michael, your great,much love from East Africa Tanzania.

  • @madvgmusic670
    @madvgmusic670 5 років тому +66

    If someone is still confused, Simply buy a studio headphone and just get used to its sound. Listen to professional songs on them and focus on several things like how the kick is sounding or the bass or different elements in the headphones. After few days/weeks of using it, you'll definitely get better at mixing with your studio headphones.
    PS Using this video's tips are definitely gonna help you out, especially with the Sonarworks Reference plugin.
    Studio monitors are not always gonna be available to you when you're on tour (Atleast not for me ) ...So trusting your ears are definitely gonna help you in the long run ! 👍

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +14

      You're absolutely right!

    • @sebastianlagundzija8001
      @sebastianlagundzija8001 5 років тому +12

      This is true! By referencing and actually hearing how other professional music sounds in your headphones you can mix your songs properly with pretty much any headphones imo.

    • @PsychoCaki
      @PsychoCaki 4 роки тому

      @@sebastianlagundzija8001 yup

    • @manifestormusic885
      @manifestormusic885 4 роки тому

      @@sebastianlagundzija8001 Exactly,man!

  • @vau1a.s0s
    @vau1a.s0s 8 днів тому +1

    I just wanna say: I love you and thx for all the knowledge you're giving to us

    • @Trump2024-m4n
      @Trump2024-m4n 3 дні тому

      We love you too 💗
      Can I ask you do you use closed back or open back headphones?

  • @therealtgvenom
    @therealtgvenom 2 роки тому +13

    As a music composer & audio engineer, I understand where you're coming from. This video was well structured, informal and technical. Me personally though I mix, master and compose my music with my earphones (Currently Skull Candy), because I'm very private and I don't have the space to work with studio monitors. I've had many people who were musical artists, band members, singers, engineers, beatmakers, producers listen to my music and they never had any real complaints with the sound of my music. They can possibly point out few minor flaws if they have great ears, but overall it's all good. I would however not recommend doing this because while it maybe good for me, it may not be good for someone else. Some people would rather record and mix/master with studio monitors only. I say whatever really works for you and keep going at it to improve yourself. There's always room for improvement

    • @GodBlessGary
      @GodBlessGary 2 роки тому

      Thats funny you say that. I used skull candy’s before they were wireless. For some reason, those headphones specifically helped me with a lot of my mixes and I would only use them when mixing even though I had a pair of ATH M50x’s. You can easily hear the mono tracks clear and up front when you do it right, and anything that doesn’t sound right, you’ll be able to notice. I got some beats pros that can connect to my iMac, but its not the same. Going to have to go back to the skull candys lol

  • @martinkoehler4112
    @martinkoehler4112 3 роки тому +1

    SPL's Phonitor solves the mentioned problems (crosstalk/mono) and is together with my Beyer DT 931 my solution for decades now.
    I purchased the Beyer back in 1994 and use it since then almost every day. Few times exchanged the cushions, one time the plastic cups - nothing else, perfect workhorse even for long sessions. However, I'd never would wear them for more than 2 hours without a break, but actually that applies to any pair of loudspeaker as well.
    The only remaining problem is a reliable evaluation of bass. Only experience can solve this because you always have a bit to abstract.
    This way I mixed countless productions since many years (primarily but not exclusively clasical music).
    In the past I was used to work in perfect studio rooms (in terms of acoustic). I would still prefer this. However, 99% of today's music production sites are more or less far away from being acousticly perfect. In most of these cases such a headphone combi is the much better solution (or the lesser evil - if you wanna say so) - just my two cents ...

  • @roman_scan
    @roman_scan 2 роки тому +4

    My best advice, is if you have speakers or monitors, don’t just go to them when you mix right off the bat. Pretend like you don’t have them, and mix the beat from headphones. Once you have it sounding how you want it, then go to speakers/monitors and make tweaks from there. This will narrow the sound down, and make it as accurate of a mix as you want!

  • @rodmehta5356
    @rodmehta5356 4 роки тому

    Great channel!
    Not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but here's an additional thought:
    What speaker or headphone to use for mixing depends on who you are mixing for.
    In my day for example you would have one mix for vinyl and home HiFi, and another dedicated 'radio mix' for public broadcasting for all those stuck in traffic jam listening on their mono car radios. Therefore, you would often listen back on those systems.
    The TV sound engineer I knew listened back on several TVs at least 50% of the time.
    So to translate this into today's listening environment, look at your clients and what they are predominantly listening on. My teenage daughter listens to her pop-stuff on iPods, my metal head friends would only listen on oversized high end LOUD speakers, etc.
    Not saying mix on iPods, but I find that there is generally too little aim identification when it comes to mixing - and recording. There is no right or wrong technique, only one that suits the situation. Your client will expect a certain sound, and that needs to be discussed, then the appropriate monitoring technique chosen. If you are mixing for yourself, mix for whatever you are mainly listening on and make it sound the way you want it to sound and not how others might expect it to sound.
    I use some old AKG open headphones with a flat response, some boring sounding Bose noise cancelling headphones and a stereo system (that I can adjust like a consumer) to get the basic mix, then I switch to whatever medium required. Walking around the room whilst listening on speakers also works for me, so does listening withOUT intent.
    However, there is one application that requires monitoring speakers: When mixing together with the client.
    Just a different perspective folks!
    Have a lovely day!

  • @marcushanlin
    @marcushanlin 5 років тому +7

    I use Beyerdynamic Dt 990s, absolutely love them! and i use Sennheiser HD 280 pros as my closed back. but they are actually a really nice combo for mixing. the 990s are crystal clear and let me hear every little detail, the 280s really help me hear the transients and exaggerate the frequencies that dont stand out in the 990s

    • @joefickry
      @joefickry 3 роки тому

      Hye... If i use HD280 for mixing/live stage mixing/broadcast mixing.. can i use this close-back HD280 headphones??? I just confuse to choose Hd280 or Dt990 pro headphones to buy it..? I just work for monitoring mixing and balance for live stage event and broadcast mixing.. can u help to explain what i should use or buy...

    • @marcushanlin
      @marcushanlin 3 роки тому +1

      @@joefickry I would check the frequency response on the current hd280s, mine I really old and exaggerate the mid frequencies. Beyerdynamic also has a closed back headphone, the dt770, that could probably work well for live mixing. Their headphones are also very comfortable.

    • @joefickry
      @joefickry 3 роки тому

      @@marcushanlin oww okey.. tq so much... bcauze im very confusing about my work.. i just for live mixing for FOH and Broadcast/stream.. so i dont know where should to pick Hd280 or DT770 pro.. hehehehhe

    • @marcushanlin
      @marcushanlin 3 роки тому +1

      @@joefickry im assuming you have to wear the headphones for long periods of time, I'd go with the 770s, they are also easier to repair or replace individual parts.

    • @joefickry
      @joefickry 3 роки тому

      @@marcushanlin yes I also think so .. because of that I am looking for a headphones that can be used for live mixing FOH. tq so much explain to me..

  • @KillSanchezVol.1
    @KillSanchezVol.1 4 роки тому +2

    Sonarworks is fantastic. I use to mix with three different made and model, open and closed back headphones depending on where I am (home, road or studio) and I use Sonarworks all the time. Every single mix sounds good no matter where I made it so I can send my pre masters to the engineer without any doubt.

  • @kyrasmithy
    @kyrasmithy 4 роки тому +3

    This video just solved the problem I had with volume! I was wondering why my levels were not right after I'd exported. Turns out I just put my computers volume on max while my headphones were plugged into my computer's aux. Beginners mistake, but now I know! Thank you so much In The Mix!

  • @KiheiVillages
    @KiheiVillages 2 роки тому

    I am an old home recording man going way back. Right away, you are spot on!
    My take on crosstalk has always been, All mixes are for headphones. Every one should
    experience headphones. No speaker system is comparible. Some are more discrete, but crosstalk is the enemy. LOL!
    No matter what speakers are used, the strong suggestion is; This was made to listen to with headphones. Back in those days, most of the public never experienced Headphones. They knew little of the soundstage, or discrete stereo.
    Nowadays, I imagine most everyone is on headphones/ earplugs.
    If not car stereos. Thanks for being knowledgeble and informative, besides, easy to listen to! Bravo!

  • @MichelRamosThe-Human
    @MichelRamosThe-Human 5 років тому +45

    I'm very happy that I've discovered your channel. Direct, no stupid way of talking, no stupid "jokes"...very professional and simple, you sir, are the best here.
    PS: you remember me of a certain, glowing "vampire".😅
    Dont know why tho.

  • @sennozenmusic
    @sennozenmusic 4 роки тому +2

    I just want to personally thank you for your content, man. I've learned so much from your channel and in a lot of ways have fallen in love with music production and engineering from perspectives I never thought I could understand and progress in, relative to my reality. I grew up in a family with not much money, but was bountiful in the love a music and in an art-form that money on some level is required to improve quality, I look for every way to get better for the cheapest way possible. And with so many channels that say you need the newest, top of the line, sleekest products to improve. It's nice to see that my, now 7 yr old Presonus Studio Monitoring headphones M-Audio Axiom Air 25 MIDI keyboard can still be enough. But honestly, it's your sincerity and obvious love for music that makes me compelled to push myself outside of my comfort zone to try and understand and learn as much as my ability and brain will allow. I absolutely love that you just get down to business and and make the content about the reason we're all here, THE MUSIC!!! But it seems like an ocean of UA-cam content is click bait and/or about the guy or gal that's creating the content, rather than the content itself. So I feel a real sense of professionalism from your channel because not one video seems to be about vanity or subscriber-gathering or making yourself wealthy and/or successful. It's just a very pure and genuine love for music and an obvious sense of satisfaction from being able to help guide and teach others how to develop their own ability and understanding of music production and design. And for myself, personally, I don't care if I ever become "successful' in the music industry. I don't make music for that purpose. I MAKE MUSIC BECAUSE I'M IN LOVE WITH IT!!! It's my escape, my therapy and meditation. So to see your content reminds me every time of why I'm still learning and why I WANT to keep learning, because music is for all of us and it brings us together as humans on a meta-physical level. So genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you bro. Keep doing what your doing because you've personally impacted my life in such a positive and meaningful way that I want to learn as much as possible to pass it on to the next guy who's never been good at anything, except this. Much love and thank you again for everything.

  • @OlbaidMusic
    @OlbaidMusic 5 років тому +9

    Those Beyerdynamic are awesome! Just to add my grain of salt. There is the mix between open and closed: semi-open. I have the DT880 Pro which falls in the middle of the DT770 and DT990 that you have, and I LOVE THEM.
    Great video! I liked the gimmick trick, will try that soon.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +2

      I always appreciate you chipping in your wisdom! Take note people :)

  • @michelangelord4129
    @michelangelord4129 5 років тому +1

    literally all of the other producer channel on youtube are so empty inside! thanks for making the best production videos on youtube!

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +1

      There are a couple of good ones out there! Check out Asher Postman and Synth Hacker!

    • @Liam0505
      @Liam0505 4 роки тому

      Michael's videos are great an so informative with short lenght. But you're wrong. There are also many other good videos about production, you just keep searching and check first if you can trust video's authors. Many trash, but also many good stuff.

  • @wellbi
    @wellbi 3 роки тому +7

    Damn. After watching a bunch of your videos ... You and Warren from Produce Like A Pro are definitely my favourite "music production" UA-camrs. Insane amount of information presented in an impeccable fashion. Thanks for your work!

  • @BhaaskarDesai
    @BhaaskarDesai 4 роки тому +2

    The best part about subscribing to your channel is I really understand what you are saying and it helps me implement it in my music. :)

  • @Platinum_XYZ
    @Platinum_XYZ 5 років тому +145

    1:53
    Micheal: "However, there are plenty of times where headphones start to fall down..."
    Me: yea when I shake my head

    • @akiya9216
      @akiya9216 4 роки тому +4

      stop. please. im gonna have to report you to the authorities for this one

    • @finnxmusic
      @finnxmusic 4 роки тому +2

      lol

  • @zxy4076
    @zxy4076 3 роки тому +1

    had to switch out of my audio engineering class due to disability preventing me from getting on campus easily. your videos have easily taught me way more than i probably would have learned in this entire semester alone, or even two who knows.

  • @valentin_boes
    @valentin_boes 5 років тому +5

    I highly recommend my Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm. The sound is much better than from a 32 Ohm Headphone and it gets loud enough when just plugged into my Smartphone.

    • @thereallegend4lyfe
      @thereallegend4lyfe 5 років тому +2

      I love those headphones. I have them as well.

    • @peterlagroove6555
      @peterlagroove6555 4 роки тому

      For Mixing with Headphones and get accurate. You need to mix with Open Back headphones that's the professional way.......Like the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 Ohm. Nothing less

  • @jatyga3905
    @jatyga3905 4 роки тому +1

    U SHOULD BE SPONSORED BY THEM!!!!!
    Because that’s why I’m literally buying a pair now. Get yo money bro, u deserve it.

  • @jamesjohnston7599
    @jamesjohnston7599 5 років тому +7

    Great video as usual Michael. the amount of music production knowledge i have learned from your channel is amazing thank you so much

  • @ulrichgamingandmusic
    @ulrichgamingandmusic 5 років тому +1

    i produce and mix on Sennheiser HD 650 for many years now, i really love them. they just sound fantastic, for 300 € phones. they are opne, i can wear them for many many hours without trouble

  • @Septumsempra8818
    @Septumsempra8818 5 років тому +19

    s/o from sweaty-headphone South Africa

  • @rorypotatochip1373
    @rorypotatochip1373 5 місяців тому

    The headphone fatigue is real.
    I’ve created some good mixes, using two sets, one open, one closed.
    But everything you say is so true. I did a lot of bouncing to then check on portable speakers, car speakers etc in order to be sure things weren’t lost or overpowering.
    I finally got a set of monitors, and literally will start using them today.
    New sub

  • @aldenfarias4873
    @aldenfarias4873 5 років тому +3

    I asked a question regarding this in the last video, thanks for covering! 😃

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @claudesteezkat
    @claudesteezkat 3 роки тому

    2 years ago still video helped me become on of the top earning mixers in my country. Appreciate you bruv

  • @Anirudh0002
    @Anirudh0002 5 років тому +5

    Thankyou for everything you do brother 🙌🏻 ♥️

  • @JezzaDJ8
    @JezzaDJ8 2 роки тому +1

    ATH M50x’s + sonar works for me.. +mix-reffing on 2 sets of monitors, the car, the work truck and my mates big sound system. Once they're all good - she's done.

  • @pezhmansaburi4753
    @pezhmansaburi4753 5 років тому +3

    By the way, I'm going to buy headphones in the next few days. This video has helped relieve my stress. Thank you very much Michael. You answered all my questions about headphones

  • @crankubus385
    @crankubus385 4 роки тому +1

    I've been shopping for a new pair of headphones. I'm so glad I caught this video before I bought anything. Wonderful explanation; thank you.

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 5 років тому +8

    You forgot to mention that besides impedance, sensitivity also plays a big part about how loud a headphone is on a specific device.

    • @Jisooee
      @Jisooee 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, sensitivity does really really matter. People just overlooked it. Such an important thing to focus on.

  • @nagekun
    @nagekun 5 років тому

    You couldn't have updated this video idea more conveniently. I just watched your older video yesterday. I appreciate it.

  • @cesarveralatorre5198
    @cesarveralatorre5198 4 роки тому +6

    Your English is so good i don't need subtittles

    • @squigglesmusic9660
      @squigglesmusic9660 3 роки тому +1

      you have no idea how much that probably means to this scottish guy 😂

    • @jeltehoekstra2952
      @jeltehoekstra2952 3 роки тому

      @@squigglesmusic9660 I have some friends who're scottish. And sometimes I really have to do my best to understand what they're saying, while he isnt even supposed to be that bad lmao

  • @CarsNkids22
    @CarsNkids22 7 місяців тому

    Really great information. As someone who has produced for a while but never dove much into properly mixing/mastering, I feel like I have a good basis to dive further in!

  • @cloudscape5996
    @cloudscape5996 5 років тому +5

    Three things happened while watching this video,
    >I discovered mixing headphones are such a thing
    >I got to know you're from Scotland
    >You gave a shout-out to my country 3:39.. 😊😊😉😉

  • @christianokpoko4433
    @christianokpoko4433 2 роки тому +1

    Halfway through the video and I can agree with everyone else, your posture, tone and selection of words are very smooth and intelligent. It’s very easy for me to understand everything your saying and your points. And your voice is just relaxing bro! It helps me focus on the video and not get distracted by other things around me. And on a side note.. I could leave your video on to help me sleep! But because the sound of your voice and tone. Anyway, amazing video bro; definitely getting a sub.

  • @friiiz1
    @friiiz1 5 років тому +10

    About the Ohm thing: My 250 Ohm 990's work just as fine with my iPhone 6, as with my UR22MK2, so I think it's not that important.

    • @chrisibbetson
      @chrisibbetson 5 років тому +2

      Yeah they don't go as loud but it's enough :-)

    • @oCorvus
      @oCorvus 5 років тому +23

      Trust me you are not getting anywhere near the full potential of those headphones without an amp to power them, the UR22MK2 does not have a powered headphone output (obviously nor does the iPhone). Sure the headphone will still make sound and play your music, but the driver is physically not able to achieve its intended frequency response. It's not a matter of volume or gain, it's about how much physical energy it takes to get the driver moving. Its like having a Ferrari that takes premium fuel only to put regular in it, sure it will still start up and maybe even drive, but you would entirely be missing the point of buying a Ferrari in the first place.

    • @ArchapelloTV
      @ArchapelloTV 4 роки тому

      @@oCorvus WELL SAID!

  • @wyzee6262
    @wyzee6262 4 роки тому +1

    I would suggest mixing in studio monitors and then listen it on headphones for close details and errors to fix. Works for me

  • @gabrielaesthermelo
    @gabrielaesthermelo 5 років тому +12

    Tysm u're iconic I love ur channel

  • @Hemanthjoisofficial
    @Hemanthjoisofficial 4 роки тому

    I have been using Audio Technica M40x for three years , now im upgrading to DT1990. I had a doubt about using headphone amp whether if I have to buy a new amp for it or if that works with my new Appolo Twin , when I asked the store guy, he said I need to buy, but I randomly came across your video and in one of your videos you mentioned how amp isnt needed for DT1990 as interface supports it, it sorted my problem in no time, also your videos are so good. On point , calm voice , brilliant reviews. Thank you so much ! Also i was very happy to hear my country's name India in this video :) wishing you hit 1m soon :) much deserved ! Cheers , from India :)

  • @Bestavashvili
    @Bestavashvili 5 років тому +3

    Damn so young and yet you are going so hard with all this info. Bless u for kindly sharing such quality videos bro. Keep them coming 🔥

  • @ThisCreepingLife
    @ThisCreepingLife 4 роки тому

    17 minutes of pure usefull information, i didn't even grab my phone while i was listening to it, you totally catch my attention

  • @hnstlywhtevr
    @hnstlywhtevr 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve mixed in headphones for years bc my apartment walls are thin!

  • @jmtz9957
    @jmtz9957 4 роки тому +1

    You, out of all these so called pros, make the most sense. Thank you for your knowledge.

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords 5 років тому +11

    Wish i have four ears so that I can wear my both closed and open back headphones together.. damn.😬

  • @ExtremerZocker284076
    @ExtremerZocker284076 5 років тому +1

    Wow, just last week I had to decide whether to get the 80 or 250 Ohm headphones. I went for the 80 Ohm, watching the video right now maybe I should have gone for the 250 version instead :D But I still think they sound really good and I hope my mixes will at least get decent, because at the moment, I don't have the option to use monitors.
    I've been watching your tutorials for the last few days and just wanted to say thank you for your amazing content, it really helped me understand the DAW and where to start :)

  • @strongmaurice1364
    @strongmaurice1364 4 роки тому +3

    sweaty headphone Australia checking in... definitely need a break after a while

  • @artyomhvans
    @artyomhvans 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Michael, you are the best mixing/mastering teacher on YT! I've decided to consistently improve the quality of my mixing (of my own music) and for that your videos are just the best resource.

  • @chinoskateboardv
    @chinoskateboardv 2 роки тому +8

    Mixing in headphones pro: you don’t annoy everyone with repeating the same stem over and over and over and over again 😂😂😂

  • @Leviibeats
    @Leviibeats 5 років тому

    Hey man, I’m from Scotland also, I’ve been mixing for about 5yrs now and I can say by far the DT990 pro open back headphones are amazing. I’ve mixed music for artists and myself and never received any complaints. Some well known artists too, just released an EP and amazing results just using headphones. I believe it can definitely be done, it’s all based on experience as getting used to your setup. Great video buddy. 👍

  • @WnderSouls
    @WnderSouls 5 років тому +7

    What is the name or brand headphone you using on this video?

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +6

      Beyerdynamic 770pro and 1990 pro. I'm not sponsored but I do think they are super comfortable. The 770 don't have a lot of bass and are very bright, just to let you know

    • @WnderSouls
      @WnderSouls 5 років тому +1

      @@inthemix what about the 1990 pro? Is it the bass really present?

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +6

      @@WnderSouls it's present but has an amazing thick bass. I have heard that the much cheaper 990 also has better bass too, bit I have not tried them myself

    • @jdstarek
      @jdstarek 5 років тому +5

      Alenzo I have several over-ears. I love my 990s. Very clean, fairly flat (not v-shaped), open back for great staging, and super light/comfortable. I highly recommend. I use these along with my Yamaha HS7 monitors, but I agree that if you “know” your equipment you can get a great mix on pretty much anything.

    • @WnderSouls
      @WnderSouls 5 років тому +1

      @@inthemix hoho thanks for reply, i was actually wanna fine a great headphone for value. Beyerdynamic seems great for me to invest with😄

  • @KaizerDragon
    @KaizerDragon 5 років тому +1

    This is such an amazing video, as an artist myself I use Open Back headphones and my sound comes out very nicely, I need to invest on a pair of Closed headphones just in case I am in a noisy area. Thank you so much for this info!

  • @MA-uf5dg
    @MA-uf5dg 5 років тому +4

    Would you use noise canceling bose headphones for mixing /mastering?

    • @zxnnn
      @zxnnn 5 років тому +3

      MA2 no, headphones like those have a sound curve with the bass and high end to make songs more enjoyable to the average consumer. would not recommend mixing with those.

    • @RangerKun
      @RangerKun 5 років тому +1

      Definitely not. You want dedicated studio monitoring headphones that have a flatter freq response, otherwise the sound you hear doesn't replicate as well.

    • @Hydrasito
      @Hydrasito 4 роки тому

      @@RangerKun Are the Beyerdynamic DT990 pro good for mixing? Like flat response

    • @RangerKun
      @RangerKun 4 роки тому

      @@Hydrasito they would work though I've heard they are a tad bit bright.

  • @isohel9889
    @isohel9889 4 роки тому

    I think for a starter or a non professional like me it's better to use closed back headphones as we don't have a studio setup and at the same we want our mix to sound decent..so I've made my choice I'm gonna buy a pair of closed back headphones and this video really helped me in making my decision.Thank you so much Michael ♥️♥️

  • @jehaert
    @jehaert 5 років тому +4

    wait you can wash the pads of those 770's? that is most important piece of advice I have gotten of this haha

  • @dpadilla1127
    @dpadilla1127 3 роки тому +2

    Answered everything someone would need to know thank you!!!

  • @valentin_boes
    @valentin_boes 5 років тому +3

    What did you mean with "getting everything in phase"?

    • @agentcalm
      @agentcalm 5 років тому +2

      At a guess (and as I NO expert i really am guessing) he probably means that with headphones, the sound waves are not bouncing off walls before hitting your ears. When waves bounce off walls and ceilings, they fold back on each other but not in perfect alignment i.e. they are out of phase. So various frequencies get cancelled out. In small home studios this is always a huge problem and why good bass traps etc are so important. If you don't have the space or budget for room treatment one option is to use headphones to check for that low end.

    • @valentin_boes
      @valentin_boes 5 років тому

      @@agentcalm ah okay, thanks ^^

  • @m.cagrgokcen3445
    @m.cagrgokcen3445 3 роки тому

    You are my online teacher now. I really appriciate your vibe and knowledge. I will make you proud by watch all your videos and educate myself. I started today. Thank you for being a super nice human being and your will to educate people who really needs and will get somehow. Much loves from Turkey. King regards

  • @Burak.Cya76
    @Burak.Cya76 4 роки тому +3

    Does someone have experience with 250 Ohm headphones and the focurite Interface solo ?

    • @mathiasmihalcea
      @mathiasmihalcea 3 роки тому

      Check their website.As far as I remeber, the Solo does not support 250 Ohm headphones.

  • @luxuriouslifestyle2630
    @luxuriouslifestyle2630 5 років тому +1

    To be frank bro you are the only mentor i have right now because your teachings are always clear and more understandable bro, just keep up the good work God bless you, lemme check this one out too because i dont have monitors thanks for this tutorial.

  • @aenonmate1105
    @aenonmate1105 5 років тому +3

    can you please make a tutorial about fl srudio stock plug in.
    please teach me how to tweak thing in a plug in. please do harmor first please.

  • @Ultimateman
    @Ultimateman 5 років тому

    I use monitors + sub to mix/produce when not using headphones but when I really want to consintrate or "tune/do fine detailing I use in ear headphones which can produce 4hz -20khz. Also one pro tip, always listen your final mix with wide range of different speakers / headphones :) Great video as always, very informative!

  • @alsoeris
    @alsoeris 5 років тому +13

    It’s very rare that my mix sound good after ONLY using headphones

    • @SantiagoMartinez-dd5tr
      @SantiagoMartinez-dd5tr 5 років тому +1

      You probably don't have the reference for each frequency and parameter down properly.

  • @collineriklawrence
    @collineriklawrence 2 роки тому

    i couldn't explain how valuable this channel is to me

  • @Chris-rr9ud
    @Chris-rr9ud 5 років тому +5

    Guys avoid using headphones for long periods,it gave me tinitus in two years,dont be ignorant like me,mix on low volumes,you will get better results to

    • @PhilipJasionowski
      @PhilipJasionowski 5 років тому +2

      If it sounds good at low volumes, it will scale great to higher volume

  • @Choopuhcabra
    @Choopuhcabra 3 роки тому +2

    Dude, this was insanely informative. Thanks so much for this.

  • @LC-yo3bj
    @LC-yo3bj 5 років тому +16

    You're like 14 years old and have the wisdom of a 114 year old engineer

    • @deadpaul6587
      @deadpaul6587 5 років тому +2

      What?

    • @SereniCraftYT
      @SereniCraftYT 5 років тому

      lol

    • @LC-yo3bj
      @LC-yo3bj 5 років тому +2

      @Shovine Bojraj @deadpaul I'm saying he looks young, but knows as much as a producer who has been doing music for decades.
      I was exaggerating, I know he's not 14 (it was a joke)

    • @deadpaul6587
      @deadpaul6587 5 років тому

      @@LC-yo3bj lmao, you had me confused there

  • @MykytaPotapenko
    @MykytaPotapenko 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! Do you think closed or open back headphones are better for playing digital piano at home?

  • @MoreMeRecording
    @MoreMeRecording 3 роки тому +1

    Ive (thankfully) just discovered OLLO SX4's (open back) and thank god. Hand made in Slovenia and the return for the dollar is incredible. They rival AUDEZE, Grado but for far less money. I use them to drill down some moves after I get some shape on the mix in the monitors. I could easily mix a full song on these.

    • @visualdreamtrap1931
      @visualdreamtrap1931 11 місяців тому

      I work on the (OLLO S5x) since 1 years together with Canopener. Damn i love them for really deep automation task by tweaking synths. When there is no option for treat a room, then it's better to invest in these than in studio monitors.

  • @joymondal3211
    @joymondal3211 Рік тому +1

    👌I have been watching your videos since 2015. But after 2017 I did not watch the music production videos for some reason but now I am watching them again. And I am learning from you. Your videos are very good and explain very well. You explain very well because of your calm nature. All in all, I like your video very much.🙏🙏🎶

  • @davejohnsonmusic
    @davejohnsonmusic 5 років тому +1

    You always kill it brother. One of the best out there and bringing clarity, so even the layman can understand. I also have an older version of the DT-990 Pro's that I use for mixing and I love them. Super comfy and nice frequency response. Having the airflow moving really helps the low end to bloom, just enough to accurately suss out the bass and kick. I also use the ATH-M50's (first generation) for tracking and I'm not that impressed honestly. They become painful on the ears quickly and are a little too hyped in the mids. I even replaced the ear pads with velvet ones and they still are not comfy. Proof that you really need to try different cans out in the store, to make sure they fit your ears correctly. They have a newer version out of this model, so maybe they are improved?

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому

      Hi Dave, thanks for sharing your experience. I know exactly what you mean about the "boom". It's just brilliant to hear. As for the AT50, I just know that so many people seem to love them, I only used the cheaper a20 which was not comfortable for me but you are right, try to check them in a store. My local music shop luckily let me try out some AKG headphones and I knew right away they were not for me even though they are used in tonnes of pro studios.

  • @JubileeGiggles
    @JubileeGiggles 5 років тому +1

    Whoah I was one of the ones asking that question! I feel personally addressed!

  • @sidfinley6087
    @sidfinley6087 4 роки тому +1

    Well done. Such a great description of why open air mixing is important, beyond using only headphones. Thanks!

  • @docaustinlim
    @docaustinlim 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for providing such a great explanation to all of these music production questions with such a calm demeanor. So many youtubers are just too...hyper.

  • @tedmuss
    @tedmuss 5 років тому +2

    I have always mixed on headphones because I didn't know any better, but I've also received nice comments about the production

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +3

      That's brilliant, honestly you can do so much with a decent pair of headphones these days and they let you just zone in on anything in the mix :)

    • @tedmuss
      @tedmuss 5 років тому

      P.S. I use beyerdynamic dt100

  • @Greedygoblingames
    @Greedygoblingames 3 роки тому +1

    I like the headphones on the desk trick... I usually try playing my mix on a rubbish set of speakers, but the headphone trick is much easier as I don't have to export to wav first.

  • @adravil_sunderland
    @adravil_sunderland 5 років тому

    Thanks, Michael, as always!
    If anyone is interested -- FiiO K5 is enough for DT770's. Not easily enough, but, at the same time, there is still a db reserve at the end.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  5 років тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm sure it'll help someone in the market!

    • @adravil_sunderland
      @adravil_sunderland 5 років тому

      ​@@inthemix Thanks to YOU for introducing Beyerdynamics to me -- they are such inspiring as your channel!
      Hope and believe I, like many others around you right now, will show you my own tracks in the future. See you somewhere!

  • @MartinJovanovic
    @MartinJovanovic 4 роки тому +2

    After watching many videos on DT770 Pro (250) I bought them. Their high end is boosted so much so that they are virtually unsuable (except for recording), at least for me. So, money wasted, but I kept them anyways. The frequency graph shows this as well.

  • @normapadro420
    @normapadro420 2 роки тому

    Hello. I use 2 types of headphones. Both were inexpensive. Both cost below $20.00. I also use a laptop. One of the headphones has open back, and the other is closed. They both work well for music production. I don't have any issues with any of them. Enjoy your day.

  • @AdrienneA
    @AdrienneA 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome vid. Simply put, no fillers, and answered it all really clearly. Thank you!

  • @mvricks90
    @mvricks90 2 роки тому

    been mixing on closed ones for years, no wonder the mixes never translated to other systems:P thnx for sharing! great tips

  • @iainmackenzieUK
    @iainmackenzieUK 5 років тому +1

    Very useful 17 minutes! Thanks a lot
    I have just recently invested in a decent set of open backs having used closed (Beyerdynamic DT 250) for a few years. I totally get what you are saying about the added depth and 'life' of that the open backs give to a well mixed/ mastered song. (In fact they have helped me to listen more critically and to enjoy more music on another level)
    Now when I am mixing, I switch between them. (Living / working in China so speakers are , sadly, a cumbersome option)
    Thanks for all your tips, info and reassurance
    Good luck with the channel
    Iain

  • @stationone3825
    @stationone3825 4 роки тому

    How is possible, that so young man like You, know all this things and share with so warm way, and how is possible, that You speak so clear English language without Scotish accent :) You are great mate! I'm a user of Cubase, but still a lot of your advices are very helpful. Thanks for this channel!!

  • @aarenmitts3667
    @aarenmitts3667 5 років тому +1

    TLDR
    -You can mix with headphones. Drawbacks are harder to build stereo image, and the response isn't totally flat. Also phasing issues are easier to spot on monitors.
    -Ohm value depends on the device you plug them into. Higher ohm headphones are considered to have better and more natural sound but usually require an audio interface/amplifier to get enough volume out of them. Lower ohm can be directly plugged to laptops and phones.
    -Open headphones are usually preferred for better audio quality but if you need to close yourself from outside noise or you can't produce noise to the outside environment the closed headphones are your choice. Also better for recording. Open headphones are also usually more comfortable.