Wonderful! I do this with LABS! It works the same! Make a similar solution and let it ferment a little to active the microbes with the new molasses! Its also the same process in brewing, we save the yeast to rebrew the next batch! Then what I love is I use raw LABS into milk and ferment for a day to make a drink about yogurt! Yummy! Your videos are always awesome!
Matthew Powers I want to understand this too. Do you just reserve some from that scaled up batch to use to do this again? Or do you need to use fresh EM-1 each time? How many times can you stretch this out?
You are inoculating the new batch with one cup of the old batch. The microbes multiply and expand into the next batch, and it takes about 2 weeks for them to reach peak capacity. This is when you use the EM. Save a cup for the next batch, onward, indefinitely.
@MattPowersSoil Ohhh, okay! So it should sit a few days in a airtight container before being used in th soil? What happens of you use it without activating long enough?
Yes - there are many types of recipes and there's more than the main microbes in there. I have more recipes and preps for different microbes in Regenerative Soil: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-science-amp-solutions-manual-pre-order And for the DNA readout of the top microbes in EM, it's in Regenerative Soil Microscopy: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-microscopy
I activate em1 with sea 90 mineral salt and em ceramic powder from I can find online the ceramic powder helps with off gassing and gives the microbes a favourable environment to live in but I need to know more if anyone has any info on “super Cera ferment c” pls do tell it’s hard to find info on the product I curious on if it would work mixing in your compost or compost tea
It's a little different, but there's a Bokashi recipe as well in my book :) Feel free to check it out for a detailed recipe: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/download-ps2-free
I looked up the Super Cera powder and apparently it's from Japan and used in building materials, made from fired quartz. A note said that it's not allowed on organic farms (certified?) since it's a fired product. Just thought I'd pass that on.
They used to sell it to organic farmers but the USDA organic rules changed. They made hydroponics "organic" and made super cera powder not organic in the past decade.
Just to be clear, I don't use super cera powder in my biofertilizer mixes any longer. This was a demonstration of an EM extension recipe that combines Teraganix and Cuauhtemoc Villa's recipes. I use rock dust now instead and add in pure cultures of PNSB + water kefir + insect frass + kelp.
All your ratios are in parts, yet salt is not. so, since you're using a 96oz container, per 1 tsp salt. the ratio should change as your brew amount changes, yeah??
3.5 is acidic i hope this is meant to be spread far and wide lol. Have there been any studies showing the reproduction is significant in this model? does it double em? super cool and a good idea to really stretch the dollar. Thanks for the content.
It 22x it each new batch. It is acidic, needs to be, but it gets watered down. The catch for this method is it requires molasses, capacity, time, and consistent brewing, so for farmer's it can be tedious when they have other work to do.
Matt Powers - The Permaculture Student .. I’m new.. you filled to top and allow to ferment for a week. Won’t pressure build and create issue? Maybe even bottle bursting? Thanks
@@brothersofjesus Good Question! Notice how I squeezed it? That will allow it to expand slightly which it WILL - if it's tightly closed it won't explode ;) but it will expand & try!
Hi Matt, maybe you can help me out here. I have been wondering, that if the EM needs an anaerobic environment to survive and thrive, then what happens to it when we put it into an aerobic system like compost or into our soil. If the nutrients that are beneficial to our soil comes from the dead or dying EM and fermented matter then why are people not clarifying this and including scientific data to conclude the beneficial increase in nutrients and the specific types of nutrients created by the dying microbes and the now fermented matter that will itself go through the same decomposition as compost once introduced to an aerobic environment. Also, the longest scientific trial done on EM concluded that " EM microorganisms showed no effect on yield and soil microbiology as bio-fertilizer in organic farming." The Validation on EM wiki page only had some negative scientific studies included, I am hoping you may have some better links to studies so that I can resolve these questions that are bugging me before I invest $200 on a big EM system.
If you read those studies again with the understanding that EM is fermentative and made from facultative (and endophytic) microbes, it becomes clear that these are found in nature in some soils and in some plants already, so it makes sense that some soils and some plants wouldn't show a significant response. We have to understand the actual mechanisms at work at a cellular level. I work with scientists from all over the world, university and research scientists as well as producers and agronomists, and it's critical that you develop a lens in this space to navigate through the BS. So much academia is ego-driven, reductive, and contrary because it's motivated by the wrong things - just take that Wiki apart a bit: what does it say about decomposition of organic matter? of oil? of sludge? of cleaning waterways? What would those same behaviors do in situ in the soil? What does decomposed (fermented not oxidized) organic matter create? It's vital to apply basic chemistry to these ideas a bit to unpack them. Those reduced compounds and cations are going to be plant nutrition. I think what you are seeking is my new book REGENERATIVE SOIL - it explains all this in depth with citations and was peer-reviewed by top soil ph/Eh, mycology, chemistry, and biology scientists: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-science-amp-solutions-manual-pre-order
@@MattPowersSoil Thank you for replying Matt, I really appreciate your time and knowledge. I am looking forward to reading your book and have been enjoying your podcasts too. Keep up the great work.
I just did my first EMA and I did not fill the bottle to the top, I respected the instructions but made a 1l quantity in a 2l bottle...did I ruin it? :(
EM does much better in an oxygen free environment. So the less headroom that you have at the top of the bottle, the better. You may have compromised your first batch with that much oxygen at the top.
@@pranananda108 thank you, the first batch was actually ok and ice made 2 more since and they were fine too, i squeezed most of the air out of the bottle for the second one
Wonderful!
I do this with LABS!
It works the same!
Make a similar solution and let it ferment a little to active the microbes with the new molasses!
Its also the same process in brewing, we save the yeast to rebrew the next batch!
Then what I love is I use raw LABS into milk and ferment for a day to make a drink about yogurt!
Yummy!
Your videos are always awesome!
Love this guy. Brilliant and totally understandable. Thanks Matt
Indeed
After the 96 fl ozs is made, how do i apply it. Whats the ratio to water. Thanks love the video
Thank you Matt! You’re personality is so attractive. & Really amazing information❤ Much love & respect. Crawdaddy
Thank you Chris!
I’m sorry I have two more questions: how much do you use in the garden? Let’s say per tree? And is their plants that wouldn’t like this?
How often do you have to keep rebrewing it? And can one keep rebrewing it indefinitely? Thank you Matt for this video. You are a light for me.
Matthew Powers I want to understand this too. Do you just reserve some from that scaled up batch to use to do this again? Or do you need to use fresh EM-1 each time? How many times can you stretch this out?
Please I would like to know too. Is this creating the 'Mother' each time with fresh microbes?
Dear Matt,
Is there an answer to this already
You are inoculating the new batch with one cup of the old batch. The microbes multiply and expand into the next batch, and it takes about 2 weeks for them to reach peak capacity. This is when you use the EM. Save a cup for the next batch, onward, indefinitely.
Is this necessary just to use the product in general?
YES - this is what they mean by 'activating'
@MattPowersSoil Ohhh, okay! So it should sit a few days in a airtight container before being used in th soil? What happens of you use it without activating long enough?
Slow as molasses in winter 🐞.Thanks Matt
There you go! THANK YOU!!
😂that was great thanks for the good laugh beloved
Free download does not work, can you please fix the link? Thanks, Matt!
Slower than molasses in January. Got the book, thanks!
Thank You!
Oh yeah skaling up my Em1 love it , so for a gallon of water is that😮 3 tablespoon molasses and 3 tablespoon Em1? Hope I'm doing it right
You got it! 3tbps per gal is correct :)
Thanks So much absolutely love your channel keep up the blessings
Can you grow more from this solution?
Yes - there are many types of recipes and there's more than the main microbes in there. I have more recipes and preps for different microbes in Regenerative Soil: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-science-amp-solutions-manual-pre-order And for the DNA readout of the top microbes in EM, it's in Regenerative Soil Microscopy: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-microscopy
You legend!!!
I activate em1 with sea 90 mineral salt and em ceramic powder from I can find online the ceramic powder helps with off gassing and gives the microbes a favourable environment to live in but I need to know more if anyone has any info on “super Cera ferment c” pls do tell it’s hard to find info on the product I curious on if it would work mixing in your compost or compost tea
Could I use sea-90?
for sure but the salts will be there to an extent - the rock dust or biochar dust allows different expressions.
I bought the Bokashi brothers dry bran bokashi and wonder if I can extend that the same way you did the liquid. Any thoughts?
It's a little different, but there's a Bokashi recipe as well in my book :) Feel free to check it out for a detailed recipe: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/download-ps2-free
I looked up the Super Cera powder and apparently it's from Japan and used in building materials, made from fired quartz. A note said that it's not allowed on organic farms (certified?) since it's a fired product. Just thought I'd pass that on.
They used to sell it to organic farmers but the USDA organic rules changed. They made hydroponics "organic" and made super cera powder not organic in the past decade.
Just to be clear, I don't use super cera powder in my biofertilizer mixes any longer. This was a demonstration of an EM extension recipe that combines Teraganix and Cuauhtemoc Villa's recipes. I use rock dust now instead and add in pure cultures of PNSB + water kefir + insect frass + kelp.
@@MattPowersSoildo you use volcanic rock dust ? Or a glacial rock dust ? Thanks
All your ratios are in parts, yet salt is not. so, since you're using a 96oz container, per 1 tsp salt. the ratio should change as your brew amount changes, yeah??
Ratios for different amounts are in Regenerative Soil my book - I think you'd dig it! :)
Is irrigation water okay?
If that's what you have, go for it, but whenever you can, add in more microbiologically rich water sources.
I ll make with natural thermal water , full of minerals
In em we believe uahauaha
3.5 is acidic i hope this is meant to be spread far and wide lol. Have there been any studies showing the reproduction is significant in this model? does it double em? super cool and a good idea to really stretch the dollar. Thanks for the content.
It 22x it each new batch. It is acidic, needs to be, but it gets watered down. The catch for this method is it requires molasses, capacity, time, and consistent brewing, so for farmer's it can be tedious when they have other work to do.
Matt Powers - The Permaculture Student .. I’m new.. you filled to top and allow to ferment for a week. Won’t pressure build and create issue? Maybe even bottle bursting? Thanks
@@brothersofjesus Good Question! Notice how I squeezed it? That will allow it to expand slightly which it WILL - if it's tightly closed it won't explode ;) but it will expand & try!
I do t have molasses but have golden syrup - also a product of sugar cane. Do u think I can give that a go?@@MattPowersSoil
Hi Matt, maybe you can help me out here. I have been wondering, that if the EM needs an anaerobic environment to survive and thrive, then what happens to it when we put it into an aerobic system like compost or into our soil. If the nutrients that are beneficial to our soil comes from the dead or dying EM and fermented matter then why are people not clarifying this and including scientific data to conclude the beneficial increase in nutrients and the specific types of nutrients created by the dying microbes and the now fermented matter that will itself go through the same decomposition as compost once introduced to an aerobic environment. Also, the longest scientific trial done on EM concluded that " EM microorganisms showed no effect on yield and soil microbiology as bio-fertilizer in organic farming." The Validation on EM wiki page only had some negative scientific studies included, I am hoping you may have some better links to studies so that I can resolve these questions that are bugging me before I invest $200 on a big EM system.
My sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_microorganism#Validation
www.researchgate.net/publication/210246047_How_effective_are_'Effective_microorganisms_R_EM'_Results_from_a_field_study_in_temperate_climate
There's something inbetween aerobic and anaerobic and it's called FACULTATIVE :)
If you read those studies again with the understanding that EM is fermentative and made from facultative (and endophytic) microbes, it becomes clear that these are found in nature in some soils and in some plants already, so it makes sense that some soils and some plants wouldn't show a significant response. We have to understand the actual mechanisms at work at a cellular level. I work with scientists from all over the world, university and research scientists as well as producers and agronomists, and it's critical that you develop a lens in this space to navigate through the BS. So much academia is ego-driven, reductive, and contrary because it's motivated by the wrong things - just take that Wiki apart a bit: what does it say about decomposition of organic matter? of oil? of sludge? of cleaning waterways? What would those same behaviors do in situ in the soil? What does decomposed (fermented not oxidized) organic matter create? It's vital to apply basic chemistry to these ideas a bit to unpack them. Those reduced compounds and cations are going to be plant nutrition. I think what you are seeking is my new book REGENERATIVE SOIL - it explains all this in depth with citations and was peer-reviewed by top soil ph/Eh, mycology, chemistry, and biology scientists: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-science-amp-solutions-manual-pre-order
@@MattPowersSoil Thank you for replying Matt, I really appreciate your time and knowledge. I am looking forward to reading your book and have been enjoying your podcasts too. Keep up the great work.
so creek water ought to be good.
Yes from a healthy ecosystem :)
Matt , can we be neighbor?
I always heard that aerobic is better. So why are you doing an anaerobic process?
Here is Matts video explaining aerobic vs anerobic controversy: ua-cam.com/video/Xx9L-GQ_uro/v-deo.html
woule have put in the microbes last...blessings to all
I just did my first EMA and I did not fill the bottle to the top, I respected the instructions but made a 1l quantity in a 2l bottle...did I ruin it? :(
EM does much better in an oxygen free environment. So the less headroom that you have at the top of the bottle, the better. You may have compromised your first batch with that much oxygen at the top.
@@pranananda108 thank you, the first batch was actually ok and ice made 2 more since and they were fine too, i squeezed most of the air out of the bottle for the second one
Yeah - I didn’t realize about leaving no sir gap at the top either