What do bucking temperature ratings mean?
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- All tests are conducted in a controlled environment. None of the test models are homemade, 3D-printed, or previously modified. This week we test different temperature rated buckings to see if there is a measurable effect on accuracy.
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You under hopped the snot out of those tests.
Thank you for this video. I'm dipping my toes into upgrading my airsoft gun for the first time and this was a huge help in understanding the bucking
This was a great start to doing some measurable tests. I really appreciate that as there don’t seem, like you said, to be any real statistical data
Appreciate the time spent to create this video!
Good info, thanks for the time you took on this!
Thank you for actually testing them. Great vid.
For a standard AEG like a rental gun, the degree doesn't matter that much (if at all). Where the degree matters more, is for high speed DSG builds and snipers. When using a lighter bb at lower fps, a softer bucking is preferred because the bb can deform the nub and make better contact. When using heavier bbs, they hit the bucking harder, so a higher degree of bucking is preferred to prevent bad accuracy and eventual tearing. (FPS also plays a big role when using a tougher bucking) High speed DSGs will use a tougher bucking because it doesn't deform much when pounded by 60 bbs per second. Thus not tearing or not hopping the bb properly. For snipers, they shoot over 350fps with a very heavy bb. So having a much higher degree is paramount in getting a good hop at 250ft. The harder bucking can hold up and not deform too much when hit by the bb. For those cases ,degree maters. For a normal AEG (like a rental), the contact patch maters more than the degree.
I use a 75 degree bucking in my fully built Tac 41 and it’s a lot better than the stock bucking which is 60 degrees
You are somewhat wrong. This in theory, but in actual real life it's that at all. To put backspin on the BB, you want as much grip as you can get off the contact patch. A softer degree bucking will always give a better backspin compared to a higher degree. I have used 50 degree autobot buckings in many VSR-10, MK23 and DMR builds and you would be surprised how long it would last. I usually use 60 degree Macarons in AEGs shooting 1.5-1.8 Joules and it never fails me combined with a ZCI barrel and omega nub. Tuning the gun itself is far more important than just the bucking hardness.
Remember, buckings are consumables as much as AEG o-rings are. Yes, softer buckings will wear faster compared to a 70-80 degree but i'd prefer better accuracy than bucking longevity.
Personally, i like soft bucking more because it create better air seal compared to harder bucking.
It is also cheaper.
And I also find that harder bucking tends to become brittle faster than softer one. Especially when stored at long time
@VegaStryke Sorry, but he is very much correct. Some aspects of what you said also can factor into how things work. But as a whole, the heavier bb and faster bb builds will have far better accuracy and longevity if all is built correct with a harder bucking. Where some of your comments become accurate depends more on ambient temperatures. If the temperatures are colder heavier bb and faster bb builds do better with a softer bucking because of the cold temperatures stiffening the bucking. Yes depending on if you play indoors, outdoors, and/or your velocities are higher versus lower can all be a factor as to which will work better. In the end if you do not care about the longevity of your bucking then yea go ahead and stick with a soft one. Just remember that you maybe more tech savvy and have no issues opening up your gun to replace the bucking, but I would say there is a larger group that are not savvy enough as I see their guns in my workshop for even easier issues.
@@ebehdzikraa3855If built correctly they will both seal the same.
This is a good channel, keep the vids coming !!!
Great video and experiment! This answered some questions I had about hardness in buckings! 😄
Thanks man! Came looking for copper and I found gold! This helped a lot!
Thanks! Makes a lot of sense, given the way you explain it!
Thanks for this. Always prefer evidence to assumptions/hearsays.
Finally! I too would receive non-answers to this question.
thanks chris first video when i looked this up
thank you for your explanation video
Very good explained❤
THANKS YOU THAT WAS HELPFUL
Great info
Im a noob in airsoft. Can i ask what does 45 and 90 degree for the piston means?
what one should i use for a mk12 mod1 spr from double bell?
Good info!
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@@Shark_Theory 🙋♂️
It’s the degree of hardness. The softer the bucking, the more hop. Gotta find the sweet spot between hop and durability. Or maybe it’s the temperature the bucking’s going to melt 😆
I’m using .49 gram in my fully built Tac 41 at 501 fps I found that the 75 degree is the better one to go with because the grouping of each shot is a lot smaller and when all you see is someone’s head you want be able to hit that 6 in target compared to the 2ft width of someone’s body.
Dude where do you play that let you run a .49 at 500fps? your joules of energy would be way high
@@phillipwall1932Yea I want to know, unless the person is using it for pest control or trespasser deterence
@@sithknight7740Outdoor game snipers consistently run in those velocity ranges depending on your area and rules here in the USA.
Hey it me again in taiwan gun there is a combo FLAT HOP UP BUCKING 55-60° [MODIFY] or is it better to buy maple leaf 60 and the DELAYER OMEGA [MAPLE LEAF]
Nice vídeo 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
What about v shape and w shape hop up??
Was the test conducted with the hop up off?
man i legit been saying that the whole video lol not a very good way to test buckings
They're not degrees. Hardness and softness rating is known as the "durometer"
Yes, but they “maple leaf” purposely write those ratings in degrees.
durometer is the tool to measure the shore hardness :)
@LockdownSpin well sure but the context was the degree related to outside temps which it does not. The numbers represent the rubber durometer
It depends on your fps which to use
More fps harder bucking
thank you, although it would have been cool to see say .26 bbs vs 32's to have a better idea of how much accuracy returns you get with different weights
outdoors you would kinda want the highest that your gun can hop but indoors for cqb just stay for .2g or maybe even .16g considering you get more velocity. (in my VSR i use .46g and if i could get here even heavier i would go for it. Problem is just thats the highest i can purchase)
Note: The difference is especially big at higher ranges and guns with more fps and higher hop capabilities get more range at heavier bbs.
This. Use 0.30grams please :) mostly nobody plays with 0.20 if they do these mods
. 32's will give a tighter group at distance. But a lot comes down to how you build your gun out.
Lol I always thought the degrees meant angle, boy do I have some learning to do
Great video thanks
This was helpful to some degree. But 100 ft is not the test I wanted to see. I wanted to see 200 ft 300 ft 400 ft etc. And how you adjusted the hop up on it. Accuracy is great distance is great also I won't both
i have seen this man age on video
He's been throwing down knowledge for a while. If I was ever in Maryland for a bit I'd go check out his shop/arena.
Can you please remake this with atleast .30 it's the average outdoor user weight if not .32 for the serious person. We use .30 at 330 to 350 fps 420 fps with a .20
what's that got to do with temperature???? xD there is no F or C after the ° (degrees) sign.
Is your hop even on? They all dropping down
doesnt seem very accurate, a .20 at 100 feet dropping like that seems to say you dont have the hop dialed in, not sure what was proven here aside from heavier bbs tend to hold their accuracy more.
Theres a whole lot more than just hop that not dialed in on this guys builds....
@@alextatkin1026 oh yeah. lol thats just the most glaring obvious thing in the video
4:20 this dude got more ice then polar bears in Antarctica
Me when I spread misinformation on the internet 🤭
LMAO @ calling it temperature. Look up a Shore hardness scale buddy.