The show did Barristan dirty. This guy is supposed to be training knights in Mereen and leading the city in Danny's absence. Instead he get skilled by gutter rats while walking around a city in unrest with no armour.
“Old man. I will eat your heart.” “Then come,” said Barristan the Bold. For the first time all day, Selmy felt certain. This is what I was made for, he thought. The dance, the sweet steel song, a sword in my hand and a foe before me.
@@Limpshot_McGee It's likely Victarion will kill Barristan. The Greyjoy fleet will break the siege, but when Victarion demands Daenerys's hand, Barristan will protest.
@@youngcashregisterakalilbro3261 it's a testament to George RR Martin to write characters that are so in depth that they feel real to the reader. What's cringe is you feeling the need to comment lol.
@@WytchTits it was so distinct. I dont know if youve read the book but his arc with Dany, right from his arrival, was awesome. It was the first arc they ruined so much it was even recognisable page to screen lol
The exact moment for me too. I stopped watching for over a year and only came back to watch further seasons by convincing myself that it's high-budget fan-fiction and no longer an adaptation of the books. 😅
The show really ruined Barriston's character. When I was reading A Storm of Swords and he revealed his true identity, I got chills down my spine. He was such an amazing character, he reminded me a lot of a more "grounded in reality" Dumbledore or Gandalf. He had that perfect combination of being both a wise mentor and a friend. Ah.
"I don't think he was planning this when they marched south" The way he talks about those characters as if they are real people who are not written by him but are acting on their own will shows his passion for the work
Barristan Selmy was a veteran who was unadulterated pure badass. He was supposed to be an elite nearly unkillable swordsman (like John Wick but for swords). But he died to some side side characters who are usually killed by side characters
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@@jamesmayle3787brother im a Christian myself but people like yourself is why others think we’re delusional the guy was just making a comment about a fictional character then u randomly bring up the core of our religion bro calm down and realize we’re still on earth for now salvation is coming soon but your not getting any bonus points for preaching on UA-cam smh
"Dany had stopped to speak to a pregnant woman who wanted the Mother of Dragons to name her baby when someone reached up and grabbed her left wrist. Turning, she glimpsed a tall ragged man with a shaved head and a sunburnt face. "Not so hard," she started to say, but before she could finish he'd yanked her bodily from the saddle. The ground came up and knocked the breath from her, as her silver whinnied and backed away. Stunned, Dany rolled to her side and pushed herself onto one elbow . . . . . . and then she saw the sword. "There's the treacherous sow," he said. "I knew you'd come to get your feet kissed one day." His head was bald as a melon, his nose red and peeling, but she knew that voice and those pale green eyes. "I'm going to start by cutting off your teats." Dany was dimly aware of Missandei shouting for help. A freedman edged forward, but only a step. One quick slash, and he was on his knees, blood running down his face. Mero wiped his sword on his breeches. "Who's next?" "I am." Arstan Whitebeard leapt from his horse and stood over her, the salt wind riffling through his snowy hair, both hands on his tall hardwood staff. "Grandfather," Mero said, "run off before I break your stick in two and bugger you with-" The old man feinted with one end of the staff, pulled it back, and whipped the other end about faster than Dany would have believed. The Titan's Bastard staggered back into the surf, spitting blood and broken teeth from the ruin of his mouth. Whitebeard put Dany behind him. Mero slashed at his face. The old man jerked back, cat-quick. The staff thumped Mero's ribs, sending him reeling. Arstan splashed sideways, parried a looping cut, danced away from a second, checked a third mid-swing. The moves were so fast she could hardly follow. Missandei was pulling Dany to her feet when she heard a crack. She thought Arstan's staff had snapped until she saw the jagged bone jutting from Mero's calf. As he fell, the Titan's Bastard twisted and lunged, sending his point straight at the old man's chest. Whitebeard swept the blade aside almost contemptuously and smashed the other end of his staff against the big man's temple. Mero went sprawling, blood bubbling from his mouth as the waves washed over him. A moment later the freedmen washed over him too, knives and stones and angry fists rising and falling in a frenzy. Dany turned away, sickened. She was more frightened now than when it had been happening. He would have killed me. "Your Grace." Arstan knelt. "I am an old man, and shamed. He should never have gotten close enough to seize you. I was lax. I did not know him without his beard and hair." -Barristan killing the Titan's Bastard with a stick, at like 60 years of age. Arstan Whitebeard is Barristan, if you were wondering, he was using a false name.
Thank you for this. I’m looking forward to starting the books when the series is finished. I don’t think I have the patience to wait 5+ years between each installment lol. But reading this snippet makes me excited for the awesome writing.
@@renee3356 just read it now. it may be frustrating but take the chance to read the books soon! it's so much material, you'll have to read them more than once to experience the whole thing.
@@renee3356 Starting the books would be foolish at this point, you would forever be stuck with a cliffhanger that will never reach the climax. Do yourself a favor and don't bother if you already haven't started.
One of the most egregious and maddening errors D&D made was having the Stark children conspire to murder Littlefinger in their own dining hall. This is a flagrant violation of guest right and a BIG MIDDLE FINGER to their mother, brother, sister-in-law, and unborn nephew. Why not have Sansa do something truly badass like Wyman Manderley does to the Freys in the books? The Starks could conduct a legitimate trial, which LF would win because the truth actually exonerates him. Then afterwards have Sansa very publicly present LF w/a gift upon his departure from Winterfell, which per the laws of hospitality would signify that her duty to shield him is done. Something LF would overlook as he has no regard for hospitality laws. Then, have Sansa dispatch Arya to kill Littlefinger on the road, utilizing her Faceless Man skills to disguise herself as a soldier tasked with escorting him from the North's borders. Arya could then bring back his head, which would be promptly displayed on a pyke above Winterfell's walls for the world to see. And to serve to remind the realm that there's one rule in this kingdom- when the wolf is hungry, it eats. You could even have Sansa recite this line while staring up at the head. Perhaps to Jon upon his return as she explains all that happened in his absence. That would've been a far more respectable outcome in my humble opinion.
Hospitality laws didn't apply to Littlefinger. He was accused of attacking (indirectly) his guests which meant he broke hospitality first. The trial was a _farce_ yeah, but as far as hospitality goes he failed to defend himself and his lords rejected him. It was still senseless
@@ilertargenthorne4639 I don't know if that's factually correct; that the Stark children were freed of their obligations because of Littlefinger's alleged crimes committed before he became their guest. If they offered him their food without a naked sword bared across their knee, they were on the hook.
1:16, notice that he mentioned the phrase "I don't think he" and "I think he". You see a writer let's his character act freely inside his imagination, characters act freely depending on the obstacles or circumstance they are given.. so truly writers themselves don't know what's going to happen next..until he plays out all his story in his mind.
I really enjoy listening to GRM explain his stories. It’s quite interesting because he’s so engulfed & enriched with these stories that it’s almost as if he is giving a history lesson. That’s really amazing.
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Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is an extremely important step. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Robert presumably seeing Barristan slaughter several of his friends or at least finding their bodies around him and just pardons him, seeing him simply as a man who was loyal to his king is definitely one of his smarter moves.
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We NEED a Roberts rebellion series where we can see barristan in his prime and see everything from Robert in his prime, ned in his prime, Arthur dayne, rhaegar targaryn all of it.
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I love how George says “if she can get the unsullied to Westeros” because as far as he’s concerned those books aren’t finished and her ass isn’t getting to Westeros lol. So disheartening, but very realistic.
@@sergiomendoza4040 this book situation is so depressing lmao. I wish he focused more on the books instead of wasting time doing shows/interviews and complaining on social media.
Barristan has one of the saddest stories in the book, because at multiple points in his life, he could have done something different which would have changed the world for the better. Like when he singlehandedly saved the Mad King when the Mad King was kidnapped, had he not done that Tywin would have laid siege to the city and the Mad King would have likely been killed. Rheagar would have become king and a much better king at that. Again at the tournament, had he beaten Rheagar rather than the other way around, Rheagar wouldn’t have awarded the fairest maiden to Lyanna Stark and maybe they wouldn’t have ran away with each other and caused Robert’s Rebellion. Or perhaps he would have been able to stop the boat from skewering King Robert
@@A_Black_Sheep94 No. Apart of being really good friends, Barristan would not have participated in a farce like that. Raeghar was just pretty good at jousting. He even feel guilty about it for the same reasons the original comment said about how that would have changed the course of action.
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Upon each re-read of ASOIAF, my fondness for Barristan the Bold grows. He's now one of my favorite characters. 'The Kingbreaker' is amongst the best chapters in the series for me. I hope for Barristan's sake that Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne, that it's revealed in a Barristan POV, and that he'll get the chance to finally tell her he loves her before he dies. This would also put him in an intriguing conundrum because his chance to do so comes while they'd be serving rivals for the throne. How will Barristan feel about having to oppose the woman he desperately loves that he long thought to be dead and now theoretically has a second chance with? Will he choose duty or love? Could Dany's forcasted betrayal for love stem from this conundrum? I'm here for it!
I'm also a big fan of Barristan, but I think there's actually strong evidence that Ashara Dayne secretly ran off to become Howland Reeds wife in the Neck. The channel In Deep Geek goes into it in great detail and I think it's very convincing.
@@Solaris185 I think Ashara fell in love with Rhaegar while trying to help her best friend Elia give Rhaegar the 3rd child he needed but Elia herself couldn't provide. And when Rhaegar crowned Lyanna his queen of love and beauty, Ashara got in her feelings and sought solace in the bed of Brandon Stark. Who succeeded in impregnating Ashara but she would go on to miscarry.
@@beegyoshi6523 That's probably correct. However, I'd still counter that and point out that we get Lemore's description through Tyrion's viewpoint. Many expect Tyrion would know of Ashara's eyes and make the connection, but there's no evidence that he's ever seen Ashara as herself, so perhaps he wouldn't. In ADWD, Tyrion says this to fAegon: "Well, I saw him twice or thrice, but I was only ten when Robert killed him, and mine own sire had me hidden underneath a rock. No, I cannot claim I knew Prince Rhaegar".-ADWD|Tyrion VI So, given that Tywin kept Tyrion that heavily secluded at Casterly Rock, it's plausible that Tyrion never seen Ashara and thus her eyes. And if you think of it, it's not likely that anyone around Tyrion had reason to discuss her eyes with him either. Maybe he just didn't know, and without a proper context to connect the eyes to, he overlooked them. Also, as I recall Tyrion was preoccupied admiring Lemore's...feminine anatomy. So her eyes might've escaped his notice. I'd also suggest that GRRM deliberately failed to have Tyrion make note of Lemore's eyes to fuel this debate and get the readers thinking.
It is not so well known that Ian McIlhenny (Barristan actor) protested bitterly against his character’s death, because he (Ian) was such a book-fan and pointed out all the Daenerys-crucial plot points his character would serve in future. He (Ian) wrote Benioff + Weiss a long letter registering his discontent, and asking that they reconsider; Benioff made fun of this letter at the Oxford fan-panel appearance, claiming “it just made him want to kill the character off even more.”
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If the Kingsguard serve for life, surely at some point in the history of Westeros we've had a Kingsguard made up of guys who were all like 70+ years old 😂
Probably along the same lines of our life-service Supreme Court - i.e. at the point in the history of Westeros where they have reliable vaccines, antibiotics, organ transplants, blood transfusions, etc. - which doesn't even take into account the fact that the Supremes don't fight to the death for a living😋
@@henrylupkes211 There's long years of peace though, in between all the violence and killing. You just don't hear about it because it doesn't make a very interesting story. There's got to be several monarchs in Westeros history who didn't need their kingsguard to risk their lives
God barristan was done so damn dirty in the show compared to the books. He’s literally running mereen by himself without dany, without Dario, I think it’s just him grey worm and missandei and I believe strong belwas is there as well. But just the fact that they took such an important role away from him in the show is so unfortunate. Especially considering I honestly think barristan will survive the entirety of the novels if they’re ever released, because dany is 100% going mad queen regardless in the books that’s a given now.
Ser Barristan Selmy, if given a Valyrian Steel sword, might be on par with Ser Arthur Dayne. GRRM said it'd be a very tough call on which one of them would be the better fighter, and that the only major advantage might simply be the fact Ser Arthur Dayne had Dawn (the magical, milky moon-white glowing, meteoric steel sword of House Dayne of Starfall, passed down for thousands of years in that family) Ser Arthur Dayne could probably cut through/break any 'normal' sword Ser Barristan Selmy might be wielding. Although the armouries of the Red Keep and the Street of Steel in King's Landing could likely provide some extremely beautiful steel swords for the Kingsguard, the problem is, not one of them will ever match Dawn, blade to blade. After a certain level of punishment, Dawn would simply break most swords. I would hazard a guess that Valyrian Steel can withstand Dawn, being semi-magical and mysterious in origin themselves. If for example, a duel between prime Ser Barristan Selmy and Ser Arthur Dayne were happening, I think that Dawn would potentially be the only decisive element. Whoever made the first mistake, or which sword began to get damaged first (and in that case, Dawn will not be breaking to the castle-forged steel or smithy-forged swords of King's Landing) Even were Dayne armed with the finest sword in the Kingsguard, as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, the problem is, no matter how great that sword is, for what it is, it cannot truly match Dawn. It would obviously grant Ser Arthur Dayne a serious advantage. A potentially fatal problem, for Selmy to counter. Yet in this universe, I'm sure Selmy would be more than aware of what Dawn was, and have some strategy to counter it (if he couldn't just find - or get given? - a Valyrian Steel sword to stand up to it) Even with 'regular steel', Selmy is still capable (at great difficulty, mind you) of defeating Dayne, even with Dawn. It's still going to take a little while for his sword to break, especially if it is a really good one by 'normal sword' standards. However, Dayne would know that Selmy would know that. Both would be wise to each other and be giving each other the respect and due credit both deserve. That is why it's so hard to call. Neither would disrespect or underestimate one another. Both would fight staggeringly well and it would come down to a very narrow margin of skill and luck. It's why Dayne wielding Dawn is so potentially decisive, because it can literally break right through a normal sword if the fight goes on long enough. I think Selmy would be smart enough and skilled enough to find a way to end the fight before his sword inevitably snaps. But that won't be easy. Dayne is just as impressive as Selmy. If the two fought, it'd be like poetry in motion.
Holy crap, this guy is brilliant! Such a grasp on World History and the History of Western Civilization and then applying it to a totally fictional society and making it believable! Just sublime!
Ser Barristan the bold, cut down by a street gang while walking around a city in turmoil without armour. D&D really messed up the characters. Deserved so much more from the show, hopefully the books can give him a good story, at least if the book comes out.
About the Unsullied: I think the thing about them is that they are armed and trained in the traditional Ghiscari style. It makes me think that before they grew decadent, the Ghiscari actually could make for some good soldiers in their own right. Maybe there will be a resurgence of the same in the story.
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Dismissing Barristan from the Kingsguard was pure politic. To put more Lannister toadies in the order and to add more coverage to the "incidental" nature of Robert's death. That it was a freak accident instead of a calculated assassination
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it would be so great if the unsullied would betray dany and finally be really free, like we get a few chapters with grey worm when the unsullied finally take their freedom
"The law of hospitality is very sacred especially in the North" The houseguest Little Finger had his throat slit after a minute long sham trial. He was murdered.
How do you figure? His testimony was heard, no one believed it, that's as legit as trials in the seven kingdoms get. If you cant convince the sitting nobility, then you are done. Bran the Three Eyed Raven a well known Green Seer, whos tradition is well respected in the North, disproved LFs testimony, not to mention the Lady of Winterfell knew for a fact that he had murdered her aunt Lysa. If by sham you mean the trial was a mere formality as his guilt was known, then sure. As for the law of hospitality related to the condemned, they are no longer guests once arrested or found guilty of a crime, a little loophole there. He could have asked for a trial by combat but those were not common in the North.
I wish he lived for Battle of Kings Landing. Wouldve been nice to see him attacking the capital he once protected as a knight. But that wouldve been good writing. Thanks D&D
It's too bad they did Ser Barristan the way they did in the show...i would have loved to see him show how legendary of a fighter he really was, but we didn't really get to see that
the fact that people that should be the most honourable in Westeros are the reason so much suffering ensues is incrediably accurately in history. Honour can be a great motivator but also can be a plot ddevice to justify the great cruelties.
In the books he makes it pretty clear that they were in fact the most honorable for thousands of years before Robert's Rebellion. Unfortunately when Robert took over all the previous Kinsguard were dead except for Barristan and Jaime. And Robert allowed Cersei and Tywin to fill the vacancies with thugs chosen for their loyalty to the Lannisters rather than skill or honor.
@@maxp123abc8 I'm glad some people recognize that GoT started going down hill in season 5. It hadn't gotten bad yet, but it was clearly worse than the previous seasons.
@@GlacialScion *Yes, it started from Season 6 for me. But 8 was the whole kamikaze for me.* *And when exactly is Winds of Winter coming out? No date given.*
@@GlacialScion yeah I enjoyed it at the time but looking back it was full of failed build up. Honestly every season had minor problems and there’s that failed pilot. D&D are stupid arrogant hacks so it’s a miracle seasons 1-4 were so good. I’m just hoping winds of winter comes out and shows how bad it was to cut lady stone heart, young griff, jeyne Poole, sansas vale storyline, Mance rayder, stannis plot, dorne...
Roose sent many northerners to pointless deaths so he can weaken the rival houses but the battle of greenfork was just that and the massacre in Duskendale was a repetition of it when he realizes that Robb might not have a chance to win the war. I think he always had his eyes set on replacing the Starks as the de facto ruling house but bide his time on how he was going to do it. If the North won the war, he would've stay put and kept his winnings since he already weakened the other houses and garnered victories to increase his own standing but a inhumane person like him would never be comfortable with a liege lord who was his opposite. He wouldn't have go further or at least would bide his time if Robb won just like his grandfather Rickard Stark, Roose was mostly quiet and feared the Starks if they found out about his Nocta Prima incident. In other words, he would definitely plan to betray the Starks in some form but just didn't know how further would that betrayal go so the Red Wedding to him wasn't planned from the start but it was a lucky opportunity for him to achieve his ultimate goal.
If Tyrion wants to make it to age 80, he would be wise to take advice from Ser Barristan Selmy rather than Ser Arthur Dayne on the importance of living the vows you’ve made. Something tells me that Tyrion might come in contact with Ser Barristan, and he will change Tyrion’s story drastically.
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@@jamesmayle3787 take that advice yourself, I’ve already done that this year with The Bible In A Year. Why do you leave such asinine comments on someone else’s posts without knowing their history? Practice what you preach in forgiveness and mercy before you speak next time. Better yet, go to Mass and pray for a better brain.
He was Barristan the fucking Bold and D&D decided it would be perfectly fine if he died at the hands of some henchmen of a side character. He should've been the right hand of Danny.
"If Robb had continued to win he would have been loyal" He was never loyal Mr Martin, he was just not treasonous. It's not loyalty to obey someone who can beat you up.
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I think why they killed him in the show is that Selmy is one of those "lore" characters. He is famous for his past and how people think of him and his history, which is more difficult to adapt from a book to a show. Selmy is much more interesting in the books, and it is still a shame he died so early in the show.
Will never forgive D&D for robbing us of seeing him In his gleaming dragon ingraved silver armour and lance with a long white cloak at the front of the wedge cav charge sailing out of the city gates.
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I always thought it would’ve been cool if the Unsullied become ideological after all of Dani’s rhetoric. Like they heard her talk about liberation and justice and took that to heart. So say there’s a moment when Dani chooses her own authority over the people... do the Unsullied feel betrayed? Would they feel like they had put their trust in a Revolution only to see those ideals subordinated to one person’s power?
Yep, Cersei is entirely carried by her status as queen. Had she been any less than the most powerful woman in Westeros, she would've fucked herself over bigtime. As Tywin put it, she's not as smart as she thinks she is.
Funny story, the actor who played Ser Barriston wrote a letter to D&D expression concerns about their divorce from the books and that's why they killed him, so they didn't have to work with the actor anymore.
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Seeing as, to date, he hasn't finished the books, plus all his extensive television scriptwriting experience, why oh why didn't he write the whole series?
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“Dismissing him was as insulting as it was stupid.” - Tywin Lanister
It’s almost prophetic that a certain king in the books is a complete idiot for dismissing him… and then D&D running the show decide to … dismiss him
"Even now i could cut through the five of you like carving a cake" - Barristan the bold, the painter who only used red.
Thank u for that quote for some reason it lifted my spirits and I needed that, loved that character
@@wilburanderson2060 Happy to help man 😃
@@salimbhai1319 Yahooo! My tiny lifting spirits🥳
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The show did Barristan dirty. This guy is supposed to be training knights in Mereen and leading the city in Danny's absence. Instead he get skilled by gutter rats while walking around a city in unrest with no armour.
Bad writing.
they did everyone dirty
@@you-jb8ef yeah it's incredible how much they fucked up Stannis
Bcuz D&D in their infinite wizdum decreed it must be so
In books he is alive and he is with Tyrion now in Meeren!
“Old man. I will eat your heart.”
“Then come,” said Barristan the Bold.
For the first time all day, Selmy felt certain. This is what I was made for, he thought. The dance, the sweet steel song, a sword in my hand and a foe before me.
That poor pitfighter should have wore some armour lol
That's interesting, since Victarion Greyjoy has a very similar thought when he's fighting Reachmen on a ship near the Shield Islands.
@@Limpshot_McGee It's likely Victarion will kill Barristan. The Greyjoy fleet will break the siege, but when Victarion demands Daenerys's hand, Barristan will protest.
It's alway so "brave" when men in full plate fight against unarmored foes
@Matthew Leigh I love Victarion, but how do you know Barristan won’t kill him? Either way, that would be a fight for the ages
I love how speaks about his characters as if they are real people and he's just writing down what they did
To me they are
@@sarahconnor2129 sadcringe
@@youngcashregisterakalilbro3261 it's a testament to George RR Martin to write characters that are so in depth that they feel real to the reader. What's cringe is you feeling the need to comment lol.
About Roose, he was like "I don't think he was planning to betray"
Like bro, that was YOU ! not him 😂😂
@@sarahconnor2129 Ok cringe master
Barristan's death in season 5 was the discrete moment I remember thinking 'this TV show has become garbage'. Sad moment indeed.
Dude that was the exact moment for me as well.
@@WytchTits it was so distinct. I dont know if youve read the book but his arc with Dany, right from his arrival, was awesome. It was the first arc they ruined so much it was even recognisable page to screen lol
Same 😪
Definitely
The exact moment for me too. I stopped watching for over a year and only came back to watch further seasons by convincing myself that it's high-budget fan-fiction and no longer an adaptation of the books. 😅
wow this george rr martin guy is such a nerd he knows so much about game of thrones
😂😂😂
Except how it ends.
Wish this guy would've written for the show.
Except how to write the next chapter in the saga
😂😂😂
The show really ruined Barriston's character. When I was reading A Storm of Swords and he revealed his true identity, I got chills down my spine. He was such an amazing character, he reminded me a lot of a more "grounded in reality" Dumbledore or Gandalf. He had that perfect combination of being both a wise mentor and a friend. Ah.
what character didn't they ruin
The books are far better. I couldn't keep watching the show. He does have the aged solidity and gravitas of a Gandalf.
Well the reveal at the end of asos wouldnt have worked out in the show anyway cuz everyone would have seen him
Show jumped the shark in season 5, killing off Selmy, Stannis and Bolton for...no reason whatsoever.
@@TB-my4cu and that Stannis did to poor poor Shireen 😭🙏🏻
Coincidentally, I searched “George RR Martin on Barristan Selmy” last night at midnight and found damn near NOTHING. Thank you for posting this video
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@@stewartquark1661 the fuck is that shite
@@stewartquark1661 It's coincidence. You're welcome.
@@Eastcyning Nah, no such thing. You're welcome lol
@@stewartquark1661 Okay, sure. Something is speaking to you through a low fantasy series with random phrases. Good luck with that.
"I don't think he was planning this when they marched south"
The way he talks about those characters as if they are real people who are not written by him but are acting on their own will shows his passion for the work
Barristan Selmy was a veteran who was unadulterated pure badass. He was supposed to be an elite nearly unkillable swordsman (like John Wick but for swords). But he died to some side side characters who are usually killed by side characters
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@@jamesmayle3787 see barristan selmy solos the bible
@@jamesmayle3787 no.
@@jamesmayle3787brother im a Christian myself but people like yourself is why others think we’re delusional the guy was just making a comment about a fictional character then u randomly bring up the core of our religion bro calm down and realize we’re still on earth for now salvation is coming soon but your not getting any bonus points for preaching on UA-cam smh
"Dany had stopped to speak to a pregnant woman who wanted the Mother of Dragons to name her baby when someone reached up and grabbed her left wrist. Turning, she glimpsed a tall ragged man with a shaved head and a sunburnt face. "Not so hard," she started to say, but before she could finish he'd yanked her bodily from the saddle. The ground came up and knocked the breath from her, as her silver whinnied and backed away. Stunned, Dany rolled to her side and pushed herself onto one elbow . . .
. . . and then she saw the sword.
"There's the treacherous sow," he said. "I knew you'd come to get your feet kissed one day." His head was bald as a melon, his nose red and peeling, but she knew that voice and those pale green eyes. "I'm going to start by cutting off your teats." Dany was dimly aware of Missandei shouting for help. A freedman edged forward, but only a step. One quick slash, and he was on his knees, blood running down his face. Mero wiped his sword on his breeches. "Who's next?"
"I am." Arstan Whitebeard leapt from his horse and stood over her, the salt wind riffling through his snowy hair, both hands on his tall hardwood staff.
"Grandfather," Mero said, "run off before I break your stick in two and bugger you with-"
The old man feinted with one end of the staff, pulled it back, and whipped the other end about faster than Dany would have believed. The Titan's Bastard staggered back into the surf, spitting blood and broken teeth from the ruin of his mouth. Whitebeard put Dany behind him. Mero slashed at his face. The old man jerked back, cat-quick. The staff thumped Mero's ribs, sending him reeling. Arstan splashed sideways, parried a looping cut, danced away from a second, checked a third mid-swing. The moves were so fast she could hardly follow. Missandei was pulling Dany to her feet when she heard a crack. She thought Arstan's staff had snapped until she saw the jagged bone jutting from Mero's calf. As he fell, the Titan's Bastard twisted and lunged, sending his point straight at the old man's chest. Whitebeard swept the blade aside almost contemptuously and smashed the other end of his staff against the big man's temple. Mero went sprawling, blood bubbling from his mouth as the waves washed over him. A moment later the freedmen washed over him too, knives and stones and angry fists rising and falling in a frenzy.
Dany turned away, sickened. She was more frightened now than when it had been happening. He would have killed me.
"Your Grace." Arstan knelt. "I am an old man, and shamed. He should never have gotten close enough to seize you. I was lax. I did not know him without his beard and hair." -Barristan killing the Titan's Bastard with a stick, at like 60 years of age. Arstan Whitebeard is Barristan, if you were wondering, he was using a false name.
Probably the coolest moment in all the books. A shame the show had him revealed by squishing a poisonous beetle instead.
I loved that part. I knew Arstan had to be him the entire time. There's no reason why that part couldn't have been in the show..
Thank you for this. I’m looking forward to starting the books when the series is finished. I don’t think I have the patience to wait 5+ years between each installment lol. But reading this snippet makes me excited for the awesome writing.
@@renee3356 just read it now. it may be frustrating but take the chance to read the books soon! it's so much material, you'll have to read them more than once to experience the whole thing.
@@renee3356 Starting the books would be foolish at this point, you would forever be stuck with a cliffhanger that will never reach the climax. Do yourself a favor and don't bother if you already haven't started.
One of the most egregious and maddening errors D&D made was having the Stark children conspire to murder Littlefinger in their own dining hall. This is a flagrant violation of guest right and a BIG MIDDLE FINGER to their mother, brother, sister-in-law, and unborn nephew. Why not have Sansa do something truly badass like Wyman Manderley does to the Freys in the books? The Starks could conduct a legitimate trial, which LF would win because the truth actually exonerates him. Then afterwards have Sansa very publicly present LF w/a gift upon his departure from Winterfell, which per the laws of hospitality would signify that her duty to shield him is done. Something LF would overlook as he has no regard for hospitality laws. Then, have Sansa dispatch Arya to kill Littlefinger on the road, utilizing her Faceless Man skills to disguise herself as a soldier tasked with escorting him from the North's borders. Arya could then bring back his head, which would be promptly displayed on a pyke above Winterfell's walls for the world to see. And to serve to remind the realm that there's one rule in this kingdom- when the wolf is hungry, it eats. You could even have Sansa recite this line while staring up at the head. Perhaps to Jon upon his return as she explains all that happened in his absence. That would've been a far more respectable outcome in my humble opinion.
You are so right, I have never even noticed!
@@traumer9622 That part always ticked me off. All I could think is that Ned would be so disgusted with his kids for that.
Hospitality laws didn't apply to Littlefinger. He was accused of attacking (indirectly) his guests which meant he broke hospitality first.
The trial was a _farce_ yeah, but as far as hospitality goes he failed to defend himself and his lords rejected him.
It was still senseless
@@ilertargenthorne4639 I don't know if that's factually correct; that the Stark children were freed of their obligations because of Littlefinger's alleged crimes committed before he became their guest. If they offered him their food without a naked sword bared across their knee, they were on the hook.
I had not considered that. Now I am more annoyed with them.
1:16, notice that he mentioned the phrase "I don't think he" and "I think he". You see a writer let's his character act freely inside his imagination, characters act freely depending on the obstacles or circumstance they are given.. so truly writers themselves don't know what's going to happen next..until he plays out all his story in his mind.
Some writers at least. George is a gardener type, so yeah.
Depends on the writer and how they operate 🙄
he's over 60 years old and I'm 30 and I feel like his mind is sharper than mine
Reading more along with exercise is a fantastic way of keeping your mind sharp.
*than mine
It probably is
Do you think 60 year olds are all dementia ridden idiots? Of course his mind is sharper, he would have exactly twice as much experience.
I really enjoy listening to GRM explain his stories. It’s quite interesting because he’s so engulfed & enriched with these stories that it’s almost as if he is giving a history lesson. That’s really amazing.
Yes, well said. It's fun listening to him explain things.
I could listen to this man talk about his books for ever
I love how he talks about his characters like they’re real people and he’s just documenting their actions.
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Good man George R.R. Martin, *"but he lacked stamina."*
Lmao
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I forgive myself for not reading the bible ❤
small hands, that was his problem
Robert presumably seeing Barristan slaughter several of his friends or at least finding their bodies around him and just pardons him, seeing him simply as a man who was loyal to his king is definitely one of his smarter moves.
Barristan is like a celebrity from the Stormlands ,that's why Robert spared him.
I can literally listen to authors take about their books and lore for hours, especially when there is so much to learn
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Great character.
We NEED a Roberts rebellion series where we can see barristan in his prime and see everything from Robert in his prime, ned in his prime, Arthur dayne, rhaegar targaryn all of it.
He’s gotta be incredibly empathetic to write so many characters so deeply.
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@@jamesmayle3787 have you read ASoIaF?
I love how George says “if she can get the unsullied to Westeros” because as far as he’s concerned those books aren’t finished and her ass isn’t getting to Westeros lol. So disheartening, but very realistic.
@wobbwobb right, he was on book 5 at this point, and he’s still only on book 5. Winds of winter is like 10 years late my guy you realize that right?
@@sergiomendoza4040 this book situation is so depressing lmao. I wish he focused more on the books instead of wasting time doing shows/interviews and complaining on social media.
Barristan has one of the saddest stories in the book, because at multiple points in his life, he could have done something different which would have changed the world for the better.
Like when he singlehandedly saved the Mad King when the Mad King was kidnapped, had he not done that Tywin would have laid siege to the city and the Mad King would have likely been killed. Rheagar would have become king and a much better king at that.
Again at the tournament, had he beaten Rheagar rather than the other way around, Rheagar wouldn’t have awarded the fairest maiden to Lyanna Stark and maybe they wouldn’t have ran away with each other and caused Robert’s Rebellion.
Or perhaps he would have been able to stop the boat from skewering King Robert
Barristan couldn't have saved Rhaegar from Rhaegar's actions anyway...
He probably lost to Rheagar on purpose, no one dared harm the prince or king.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 No. Apart of being really good friends, Barristan would not have participated in a farce like that. Raeghar was just pretty good at jousting. He even feel guilty about it for the same reasons the original comment said about how that would have changed the course of action.
The boar was Lancel Lanister's fault, Bobby B would have survived if Lancel had just brought him the breastplate stretcher.
By that same token the prophecy of the prince who was promised COULDNT have come to pass. At least it was unlikely
The show runners ruiened the Queensgaurd. He is supposed to bring dany across the narrow sea.
I have a bad feeling he might die soon in the next book in the battle of fire
Bold of you to assume Barry survives Meereen
@Anjelica Snorcket FFFUUUUU
@Anjelica Snorcket hahahah
@Anjelica Snorcket
And the world is but a treat! When you're on eeasy street!
So glad we have these videos, it really helps me study for the history test!
William Marshall was clearly his inspiration
0:41 just like Richard pardoned Marshall for un horsing him and siding with Henry ii
Glad someone else found this parallel
@@jasperluke12 i recently saw a documentary about him and kept thinking Barristan
I swear if you put him on a lie detector test and ask him if these characters were real.... he’ll pass
He was the Obi Wan Kenobi of game of thrones basically. But the show did him dirty
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Upon each re-read of ASOIAF, my fondness for Barristan the Bold grows. He's now one of my favorite characters. 'The Kingbreaker' is amongst the best chapters in the series for me. I hope for Barristan's sake that Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne, that it's revealed in a Barristan POV, and that he'll get the chance to finally tell her he loves her before he dies. This would also put him in an intriguing conundrum because his chance to do so comes while they'd be serving rivals for the throne. How will Barristan feel about having to oppose the woman he desperately loves that he long thought to be dead and now theoretically has a second chance with? Will he choose duty or love? Could Dany's forcasted betrayal for love stem from this conundrum? I'm here for it!
I'm also a big fan of Barristan, but I think there's actually strong evidence that Ashara Dayne secretly ran off to become Howland Reeds wife in the Neck. The channel In Deep Geek goes into it in great detail and I think it's very convincing.
@@Solaris185 I've actually watched that video, and though I like the theory, I don't personally subscribe to it. To each their own I suppose🤷♀️.
@@Solaris185 I think Ashara fell in love with Rhaegar while trying to help her best friend Elia give Rhaegar the 3rd child he needed but Elia herself couldn't provide. And when Rhaegar crowned Lyanna his queen of love and beauty, Ashara got in her feelings and sought solace in the bed of Brandon Stark. Who succeeded in impregnating Ashara but she would go on to miscarry.
Im gonna be honest, I think Asharas just dead. After all, Lemoore isn't described as having purple eyes
@@beegyoshi6523 That's probably correct. However, I'd still counter that and point out that we get Lemore's description through Tyrion's viewpoint. Many expect Tyrion would know of Ashara's eyes and make the connection, but there's no evidence that he's ever seen Ashara as herself, so perhaps he wouldn't.
In ADWD, Tyrion says this to fAegon:
"Well, I saw him twice or thrice, but I was only ten when Robert killed him, and mine own sire had me hidden underneath a rock. No, I cannot claim I knew Prince Rhaegar".-ADWD|Tyrion VI
So, given that Tywin kept Tyrion that heavily secluded at Casterly Rock, it's plausible that Tyrion never seen Ashara and thus her eyes. And if you think of it, it's not likely that anyone around Tyrion had reason to discuss her eyes with him either. Maybe he just didn't know, and without a proper context to connect the eyes to, he overlooked them. Also, as I recall Tyrion was preoccupied admiring Lemore's...feminine anatomy. So her eyes might've escaped his notice. I'd also suggest that GRRM deliberately failed to have Tyrion make note of Lemore's eyes to fuel this debate and get the readers thinking.
Hell, they could do a full season of just " listening to George explain stuff".
Thanks for the upload
It is not so well known that Ian McIlhenny (Barristan actor) protested bitterly against his character’s death, because he (Ian) was such a book-fan and pointed out all the Daenerys-crucial plot points his character would serve in future. He (Ian) wrote Benioff + Weiss a long letter registering his discontent, and asking that they reconsider; Benioff made fun of this letter at the Oxford fan-panel appearance, claiming “it just made him want to kill the character off even more.”
i like listening to this man talk
I wish the show was more fateful in the books
One of my favorite characters
"they are very potent warriors"
potent warriors with very good spears
as if compensating for something
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If the Kingsguard serve for life, surely at some point in the history of Westeros we've had a Kingsguard made up of guys who were all like 70+ years old 😂
Probably along the same lines of our life-service Supreme Court - i.e. at the point in the history of Westeros where they have reliable vaccines, antibiotics, organ transplants, blood transfusions, etc. - which doesn't even take into account the fact that the Supremes don't fight to the death for a living😋
Probably not because of how dangerous their jobs are
@@henrylupkes211 There's long years of peace though, in between all the violence and killing. You just don't hear about it because it doesn't make a very interesting story. There's got to be several monarchs in Westeros history who didn't need their kingsguard to risk their lives
I mean they would all have to be some hard motherfuckers to be that old at that time with that job
I miss this show series 1-6 ( maybe 1-7 on a good day )
I miss the whole show and all its seasons.
1-5*
6 is better than 5 but 1-4 are all that matter.
1 and 2*
Season 7 wasn't bad. Just it's followup made it feel worse
God barristan was done so damn dirty in the show compared to the books. He’s literally running mereen by himself without dany, without Dario, I think it’s just him grey worm and missandei and I believe strong belwas is there as well. But just the fact that they took such an important role away from him in the show is so unfortunate. Especially considering I honestly think barristan will survive the entirety of the novels if they’re ever released, because dany is 100% going mad queen regardless in the books that’s a given now.
Ser Barristan Selmy, if given a Valyrian Steel sword, might be on par with Ser Arthur Dayne. GRRM said it'd be a very tough call on which one of them would be the better fighter, and that the only major advantage might simply be the fact Ser Arthur Dayne had Dawn (the magical, milky moon-white glowing, meteoric steel sword of House Dayne of Starfall, passed down for thousands of years in that family) Ser Arthur Dayne could probably cut through/break any 'normal' sword Ser Barristan Selmy might be wielding.
Although the armouries of the Red Keep and the Street of Steel in King's Landing could likely provide some extremely beautiful steel swords for the Kingsguard, the problem is, not one of them will ever match Dawn, blade to blade. After a certain level of punishment, Dawn would simply break most swords. I would hazard a guess that Valyrian Steel can withstand Dawn, being semi-magical and mysterious in origin themselves. If for example, a duel between prime Ser Barristan Selmy and Ser Arthur Dayne were happening, I think that Dawn would potentially be the only decisive element.
Whoever made the first mistake, or which sword began to get damaged first (and in that case, Dawn will not be breaking to the castle-forged steel or smithy-forged swords of King's Landing) Even were Dayne armed with the finest sword in the Kingsguard, as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, the problem is, no matter how great that sword is, for what it is, it cannot truly match Dawn. It would obviously grant Ser Arthur Dayne a serious advantage. A potentially fatal problem, for Selmy to counter. Yet in this universe, I'm sure Selmy would be more than aware of what Dawn was, and have some strategy to counter it (if he couldn't just find - or get given? - a Valyrian Steel sword to stand up to it)
Even with 'regular steel', Selmy is still capable (at great difficulty, mind you) of defeating Dayne, even with Dawn. It's still going to take a little while for his sword to break, especially if it is a really good one by 'normal sword' standards. However, Dayne would know that Selmy would know that. Both would be wise to each other and be giving each other the respect and due credit both deserve. That is why it's so hard to call.
Neither would disrespect or underestimate one another. Both would fight staggeringly well and it would come down to a very narrow margin of skill and luck.
It's why Dayne wielding Dawn is so potentially decisive, because it can literally break right through a normal sword if the fight goes on long enough. I think Selmy would be smart enough and skilled enough to find a way to end the fight before his sword inevitably snaps. But that won't be easy. Dayne is just as impressive as Selmy. If the two fought, it'd be like poetry in motion.
It was barristan selmy's death from which show started getting dirty.
Barristan’s story has yet to be completed…
In fact he’s about to run into Tyrion Lannister…
"The best swordsman the Seven Kingdoms has ever seen" -Ser Baristan "The Bold" Selmy
"Here boy, melt it down with the others"
Holy crap, this guy is brilliant! Such a grasp on World History and the History of Western Civilization and then applying it to a totally fictional society and making it believable! Just sublime!
Selmy, known as the most honorable knight.
Also Selmy: joins the usurper who dethroned his king immediately.
That is SER Barristan Selmy.
Ser Barristan the bold, cut down by a street gang while walking around a city in turmoil without armour. D&D really messed up the characters. Deserved so much more from the show, hopefully the books can give him a good story, at least if the book comes out.
Guest right is actually more ancient than the Dark Ages. It appears in Greek and Norse Myths and the Bible.
"He was like a painter...a painter who only used red"-Jaime Lannister
I could listen to GRRM all day!
The norwegian word for hospitality is gjestfriheit, literally translated it means "guest-freedom".
kingsguards is to protect their king with their lives, but you get to take the kingsguards from the king you killed
About the Unsullied: I think the thing about them is that they are armed and trained in the traditional Ghiscari style. It makes me think that before they grew decadent, the Ghiscari actually could make for some good soldiers in their own right. Maybe there will be a resurgence of the same in the story.
It’s funny that I’m way more interested in this as if it were real history than real history itself
I think it wouldve been dope if the show gave him a new set of armor and he then became an official member of Dany's new queens gaurd
“I don’t think he was actually planning this”
My head: You fckin wrote the book
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@@jamesmayle3787 Jesus sucks my feet. He was a criminal who was rightfully executed. Praise the pagan gods.
Dismissing Barristan from the Kingsguard was pure politic. To put more Lannister toadies in the order and to add more coverage to the "incidental" nature of Robert's death. That it was a freak accident instead of a calculated assassination
Finish the book
"... and he only painted red...""
Woulda been interesting to see Rob and Ramsay Bolton interact.
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The Unsullied make excellent shock troops.
2:47
Hold on! Did ge just say *if* ?
ofc he is not gonna say "when". he has to leave that open in order to not spoil the books
@@s4m1r_65 IF he ever finishes the books lol
it would be so great if the unsullied would betray dany and finally be really free, like we get a few chapters with grey worm when the unsullied finally take their freedom
@@timvanharen3928 the unsullied cannot betray their masters though.
Only the first minute is about Selmy
He should have stayed toward the very end it would have been awesome having him team up with Sir Davos becoming his teacher
"The law of hospitality is very sacred especially in the North"
The houseguest Little Finger had his throat slit after a minute long sham trial. He was murdered.
How do you figure? His testimony was heard, no one believed it, that's as legit as trials in the seven kingdoms get. If you cant convince the sitting nobility, then you are done. Bran the Three Eyed Raven a well known Green Seer, whos tradition is well respected in the North, disproved LFs testimony, not to mention the Lady of Winterfell knew for a fact that he had murdered her aunt Lysa. If by sham you mean the trial was a mere formality as his guilt was known, then sure. As for the law of hospitality related to the condemned, they are no longer guests once arrested or found guilty of a crime, a little loophole there. He could have asked for a trial by combat but those were not common in the North.
Kingsguard for 40 years!
Man thats insane...
How did he manage to last so long?
I wish he lived for Battle of Kings Landing. Wouldve been nice to see him attacking the capital he once protected as a knight. But that wouldve been good writing. Thanks D&D
"The have nothing. They live for the unit".
And they don't even have those.
better title would have been george rr martin on biggest yes man in game of thrones
It's too bad they did Ser Barristan the way they did in the show...i would have loved to see him show how legendary of a fighter he really was, but we didn't really get to see that
Yeah...laws of hospitality is sacred alright... especially with the Freys 😬
the fact that people that should be the most honourable in Westeros are the reason so much suffering ensues is incrediably accurately in history. Honour can be a great motivator but also can be a plot ddevice to justify the great cruelties.
In the books he makes it pretty clear that they were in fact the most honorable for thousands of years before Robert's Rebellion. Unfortunately when Robert took over all the previous Kinsguard were dead except for Barristan and Jaime. And Robert allowed Cersei and Tywin to fill the vacancies with thugs chosen for their loyalty to the Lannisters rather than skill or honor.
I love you Martin and if i see anyone complaint about your not writting I'm gonna bugger them with a spear!
oh god,
bugger them with spear!
*How long are we going to keep doing this? No new book. When is the book coming out? Some of us want to right the wrongs of Season 8.*
Winds of winter could right the wrongs of seasons 5,6,7 and 8
@@maxp123abc8
I'm glad some people recognize that GoT started going down hill in season 5. It hadn't gotten bad yet, but it was clearly worse than the previous seasons.
@@GlacialScion *Yes, it started from Season 6 for me. But 8 was the whole kamikaze for me.*
*And when exactly is Winds of Winter coming out? No date given.*
@Wolf Yes hopefully he finishes with the inevitable Fray civil war bay then.
@@GlacialScion yeah I enjoyed it at the time but looking back it was full of failed build up. Honestly every season had minor problems and there’s that failed pilot. D&D are stupid arrogant hacks so it’s a miracle seasons 1-4 were so good. I’m just hoping winds of winter comes out and shows how bad it was to cut lady stone heart, young griff, jeyne Poole, sansas vale storyline, Mance rayder, stannis plot, dorne...
Roose sent many northerners to pointless deaths so he can weaken the rival houses but the battle of greenfork was just that and the massacre in Duskendale was a repetition of it when he realizes that Robb might not have a chance to win the war. I think he always had his eyes set on replacing the Starks as the de facto ruling house but bide his time on how he was going to do it. If the North won the war, he would've stay put and kept his winnings since he already weakened the other houses and garnered victories to increase his own standing but a inhumane person like him would never be comfortable with a liege lord who was his opposite. He wouldn't have go further or at least would bide his time if Robb won just like his grandfather Rickard Stark, Roose was mostly quiet and feared the Starks if they found out about his Nocta Prima incident. In other words, he would definitely plan to betray the Starks in some form but just didn't know how further would that betrayal go so the Red Wedding to him wasn't planned from the start but it was a lucky opportunity for him to achieve his ultimate goal.
George RR Martin has given me the worst case of literary blue balls.
The Unsullied are essentially a low tech version of The Borg.
The Captain America of Westeros.
If Tyrion wants to make it to age 80, he would be wise to take advice from Ser Barristan Selmy rather than Ser Arthur Dayne on the importance of living the vows you’ve made. Something tells me that Tyrion might come in contact with Ser Barristan, and he will change Tyrion’s story drastically.
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@@jamesmayle3787 take that advice yourself, I’ve already done that this year with The Bible In A Year. Why do you leave such asinine comments on someone else’s posts without knowing their history? Practice what you preach in forgiveness and mercy before you speak next time. Better yet, go to Mass and pray for a better brain.
He was Barristan the fucking Bold and D&D decided it would be perfectly fine if he died at the hands of some henchmen of a side character. He should've been the right hand of Danny.
he should write down a book report
"If Robb had continued to win he would have been loyal"
He was never loyal Mr Martin, he was just not treasonous. It's not loyalty to obey someone who can beat you up.
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Barristan Selmy was too simple a character, no character development, no good flaws, very easy to discard.
I think why they killed him in the show is that Selmy is one of those "lore" characters. He is famous for his past and how people think of him and his history, which is more difficult to adapt from a book to a show. Selmy is much more interesting in the books, and it is still a shame he died so early in the show.
Will never forgive D&D for robbing us of seeing him In his gleaming dragon ingraved silver armour and lance with a long white cloak at the front of the wedge cav charge sailing out of the city gates.
Barristan dishonored himself when he accepted Robert´s pardon
Not really the only he dishonored himself when he ignored Robert's last command and just allowed Cersei to do what she wanted.
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I always thought it would’ve been cool if the Unsullied become ideological after all of Dani’s rhetoric. Like they heard her talk about liberation and justice and took that to heart. So say there’s a moment when Dani chooses her own authority over the people... do the Unsullied feel betrayed? Would they feel like they had put their trust in a Revolution only to see those ideals subordinated to one person’s power?
If Tywin was in kingslanding he will never dismiss ser Barristan, Cersei did it si Jamey can be lord commander so she can do what she wants with them.
Yep, Cersei is entirely carried by her status as queen. Had she been any less than the most powerful woman in Westeros, she would've fucked herself over bigtime. As Tywin put it, she's not as smart as she thinks she is.
@@juniperrodley9843 exactly.
And that's how fans falls when they say she is too Smart.
Funny story, the actor who played Ser Barriston wrote a letter to D&D expression concerns about their divorce from the books and that's why they killed him, so they didn't have to work with the actor anymore.
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From when was this interview?
So does that make Bolton a sell lord?
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Grandad from derry girls
Fear the old man in a profession where men die young
Imagine sitting in front of HBO Execs talking about the adventures of your action figures
Someone asking if Roose Bolton was always going to betray the Starks means they didn’t understand roose bolton whatsoever.
Seeing as, to date, he hasn't finished the books, plus all his extensive television scriptwriting experience, why oh why didn't he write the whole series?
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What makes this guy a expert on game of thrones 🤦♂️! He act like he read the book or something 🤔🤔