AndreiTupolev I thought so too. The best part was it was totally unplanned. Thanks to the old lady passenger at Strathalbyn that filled me in on the rescue plans so I could be in the right place to catch the action.
I was on that train! It was a friend's 70th birthday party. There were a bunch of choristers on there so we all had a good singalong until the diesel came and rescued us.
That ALCo DL500 looks very much like the design ALCo Schenectady would have used for their next generation passenger locomotive had they survived into the '70s.
Outstanding work to capture this footage. Indeed, a bit of an interesting twist (for the passengers) to an otherwise unfortunate incident... the chance to ride behind legendary ALCo power, substituting for the steam loco that was caught up in the accident. What a shame about the crossing accident, glad to learn that the motorist will survive. Hopefully that motorist and many others will have learned something from this. Respect to the citizens, and railroaders in Australia, though I must say, I'm not a big fan of your style of blowing the whistle as you approach level crossings. I firmly believe that whistles/horns should be blown (in whatever sequence) at least until the loco fully occupies the crossing. Don't mean to be negative, but I just see that as an idea that would be a good practice to get into if not already.
But then there's no point in blowing the whistle/horn because they have already passed?? We do it to warn the drivers that there is a train approaching, and it's also required by law to blow your whistle at a whistle post. Also I'm not saying this aggressively, just telling you how we do it! Cya
I think you misunderstood what I was saying, or I didn't word my thoughts well enough. I'm from North America. Here, locomotives must be equipped from the factory with a whistle (air horn) that meets a requirement of blasting xxx-decibels (sound level) at so many feet distance. Rules require the horn to be blown in advance of, and until the locomotive is fully occupying the crossing. The proper sequence in North America is 2 long honks, a short honk, and a long honk that continues until the locomotive is fully occupying a level crossing. It is left up to the engineman (driver of the train) to use his judgement when to begin using the horn after seeing the whistle post in advance of the crossing. His judgement would consider how fast the train is approaching the crossing, what visibility conditions are at the time, and other factors. If the train were traveling at a fair clip, the sequence would need to begin at a further distance from the crossing, where as if the train were crawling, the engineman could adjust the length of the honks and adjust when he begins to blow it. In the video, the locomotive that has "rescued" the passenger cars from being detained at the accident site and is returning the train and passengers to the point of origin, does indeed honk before each crossing, but I find that some the warning honks are honked far in advance of the crossing, and do not continue until the locomotive is fully occupying the crossing. I do realize that this takes place in South Australia, and that the laws and rules of operation could be vastly different to what I'm familiar with. I also point out that in my original comment, I stated that I believe that whistles/horns should be blown (in whatever is their standard sequence of honks) (with the honking continuing) at least until the locomotive is occupying the crossing. In the examples shown in the video, it is my opinion that the engineman does honk in advance of the crossing, but it is also my opinion that there could be more of it, and it could continue until the train fully occupies the crossing. I'm not saying that how he does it is wrong, I'm saying that in my opinion it could be done a different way to give more warning.
It was a bit of a weird day. We went to the pub in Strath, had a bit of a look around, then went back to the station at the appropriate time. We then see someone with a steamranger uniform trudging up the track towards us, and the news slowly spreads that there's been an accident with the loco. We only had to wait about two hours though so it wasn't too bad. It was a friends 70th birthday and she was part of a choir so we all had a bit of a singalong until the diesel arrived.
Sorry about the late reply. The standard horn sequence here in Australia on main lines is one long and one short which most of the time dose the job but the driver can and will blow the horn more if he/she feels the need for it one of the issues with blowing the horn constantly (Like they do in the US) is that people tend to get use to and it becomes background noise which isn't a good thing if you here a train blowing its horn like mad over here 90% of the time it means something is wrong
The two 900 class locomotives at Tailem Bend were part of SteamRangers fleet but were sold by them as they were of no further use to SteamRangers operations
Actually, the PA was produced between 1946 to 1953. The World Series Alcos began production in 1953. It's interesting to note that the demonstrator, which went to Spain, and the 25 units acquired by Argentina's Railways in 1957, were built by MLW.
When badluck turn into luck. Lovely Alco, but those antiques truss rods cars seems to be speeding with joy. Are they originals ? If so those grand daddys are not sitting ducks for sure. Thanks
Once the staple broad guage mainline engine of the old SAR. 37 units in total. Got heaps of photos of them as a kid in the eighties. Fmnut, was it u at Snowtown last year shooting the two G&W GMs ? I heard there was a couple of guys from the US chasing them
From what I understand, the crossing only sees occasional use by trains on weekends only. People using the crossing regularly get lulled into a habit of not checking for trains because they never see one.....until they do and its too late.
Australian railway networks were created by state governments, who employed contract advisors to determine best options, not thinking that the different systems would ever connect. NSW standard gauge, Victoria 5'3", Queensland, West Australia 3'6" and South Australia 5'3" and 3'6". South Oz used US consultant, and much had a US look, most others stayed with the English flavour
Didn't need one, I wasn't working. I was on vacation traveling. I derive no revenue or any other compensation from my channel, it is strictly a hobby. No pay=not working=no need for work visa.
@@fmnut Cool! I asked about a work visa because passports only get you into other countries for so long and it seems like you were down there for a while given how much you filmed. You have really great videos on your channel, and I always enjoy what you post!
@@rockguitarist931 thanks for watching. I visited 3 times, 2014, 16 and 17. Each trip was 6 weeks. Enjoyed every minute. Australian Travel e visas allow up to 6 months stay IIRC.
@@fmnut I was going to do a work & travel program in Australia this year but decided against it for various reasons, and with all this Covid stuff I'm glad I waited. I think I might make a trip there after the hysteria dies down. I really like DL500's and it'd be cool to see them in person.
Unfortunate,but that Alco is a very nice thing to have as a backup! What a superb sight it makes with those vintage carriages.
AndreiTupolev I thought so too. The best part was it was totally unplanned. Thanks to the old lady passenger at Strathalbyn that filled me in on the rescue plans so I could be in the right place to catch the action.
I was on that train! It was a friend's 70th birthday party. There were a bunch of choristers on there so we all had a good singalong until the diesel came and rescued us.
Excellent video, this 930 Class is beautifully kept!!
Love everything Alco 👍
Me too. Glad to hear it!
Very rare catch getting 958 with a consist, well done!
Now that's a rescue engine!!!! Nicely done!
Beautiful and highly capable. Great shots!
That ALCo DL500 looks very much like the design ALCo Schenectady would have used for their next generation passenger locomotive had they survived into the '70s.
Very cool video. Almost like the old days on the Sussex Branch with Boonton coaches.
It's like a time window opened up and the missing train from 80 years ago came in and collided with your SUV
Nice video! Cool rescue and great Alco.
That is simply a great video.
Unfortunate accident but beautiful diesel
Outstanding work to capture this footage. Indeed, a bit of an interesting twist (for the passengers) to an otherwise unfortunate incident... the chance to ride behind legendary ALCo power, substituting for the steam loco that was caught up in the accident. What a shame about the crossing accident, glad to learn that the motorist will survive. Hopefully that motorist and many others will have learned something from this. Respect to the citizens, and railroaders in Australia, though I must say, I'm not a big fan of your style of blowing the whistle as you approach level crossings. I firmly believe that whistles/horns should be blown (in whatever sequence) at least until the loco fully occupies the crossing. Don't mean to be negative, but I just see that as an idea that would be a good practice to get into if not already.
But then there's no point in blowing the whistle/horn because they have already passed?? We do it to warn the drivers that there is a train approaching, and it's also required by law to blow your whistle at a whistle post. Also I'm not saying this aggressively, just telling you how we do it! Cya
I think you misunderstood what I was saying, or I didn't word my thoughts well enough. I'm from North America. Here, locomotives must be equipped from the factory with a whistle (air horn) that meets a requirement of blasting xxx-decibels (sound level) at so many feet distance. Rules require the horn to be blown in advance of, and until the locomotive is fully occupying the crossing. The proper sequence in North America is 2 long honks, a short honk, and a long honk that continues until the locomotive is fully occupying a level crossing. It is left up to the engineman (driver of the train) to use his judgement when to begin using the horn after seeing the whistle post in advance of the crossing. His judgement would consider how fast the train is approaching the crossing, what visibility conditions are at the time, and other factors. If the train were traveling at a fair clip, the sequence would need to begin at a further distance from the crossing, where as if the train were crawling, the engineman could adjust the length of the honks and adjust when he begins to blow it. In the video, the locomotive that has "rescued" the passenger cars from being detained at the accident site and is returning the train and passengers to the point of origin, does indeed honk before each crossing, but I find that some the warning honks are honked far in advance of the crossing, and do not continue until the locomotive is fully occupying the crossing. I do realize that this takes place in South Australia, and that the laws and rules of operation could be vastly different to what I'm familiar with. I also point out that in my original comment, I stated that I believe that whistles/horns should be blown (in whatever is their standard sequence of honks) (with the honking continuing) at least until the locomotive is occupying the crossing. In the examples shown in the video, it is my opinion that the engineman does honk in advance of the crossing, but it is also my opinion that there could be more of it, and it could continue until the train fully occupies the crossing. I'm not saying that how he does it is wrong, I'm saying that in my opinion it could be done a different way to give more warning.
It was a bit of a weird day. We went to the pub in Strath, had a bit of a look around, then went back to the station at the appropriate time. We then see someone with a steamranger uniform trudging up the track towards us, and the news slowly spreads that there's been an accident with the loco. We only had to wait about two hours though so it wasn't too bad. It was a friends 70th birthday and she was part of a choir so we all had a bit of a singalong until the diesel arrived.
Sorry about the late reply. The standard horn sequence here in Australia on main lines is one long and one short which most of the time dose the job but the driver can and will blow the horn more if he/she feels the need for it one of the issues with blowing the horn constantly (Like they do in the US) is that people tend to get use to and it becomes background noise which isn't a good thing if you here a train blowing its horn like mad over here 90% of the time it means something is wrong
WoW ! Great video !!!
they should rescue the ones at tailem bend train grave yard they would be a good restoration project
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The two 900 class locomotives at Tailem Bend were part of SteamRangers fleet but were sold by them as they were of no further use to SteamRangers operations
SARailways621 ah ok thanks for the helpful information
That Also is a beauty.
5:10 US crossing bells
Possibly the ancestor of the Alco PA
nope, PA production was winding down in 1953 when the first DL500 was built.
nope, PA production was winding down in 1953 when the first DL500 was built.
Still carry's the looks of one though its appearance and internal mechanics are different. Sill enjoy your videos!
Called a world series Alco, for the export market. I think us Aussies kept them going longer than other countries
Actually, the PA was produced between 1946 to 1953. The World Series Alcos began production in 1953. It's interesting to note that the demonstrator, which went to Spain, and the 25 units acquired by Argentina's Railways in 1957, were built by MLW.
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When badluck turn into luck. Lovely Alco, but those antiques truss rods cars seems to be speeding with joy. Are they originals ? If so those grand daddys are not sitting ducks for sure.
Thanks
Once the staple broad guage mainline engine of the old SAR. 37 units in total. Got heaps of photos of them as a kid in the eighties.
Fmnut, was it u at Snowtown last year shooting the two G&W GMs ?
I heard there was a couple of guys from the US chasing them
ROGER EVANS Sorry but no, my last visit to SA was in 2014.
MLW export ?
No, built under license in Australia by A E Goodwin Ltd, Sydney
nice video, did the driver survive??
yes, but with serious injuries
RH drive vehicle too......how you could not see that is beyond me.....people go into some sort of trance when approaching a level crossing
From what I understand, the crossing only sees occasional use by trains on weekends only. People using the crossing regularly get lulled into a habit of not checking for trains because they never see one.....until they do and its too late.
It's just as baffling here in the US as well.
Is this in Australia
Yes, as stated in the description. Thanks for watching.
Alco is like BNSF locomotive! Hehehe
The horn sounds like a trash truck Dodge old because near My house a Dodge truck has the same horn
Those carriages look more North American than British?
Curt Wakeman Yes, Australian rolling stock gradually morphed from British to American style appearance and hardware over its railways history.
Australian railway networks were created by state governments, who employed contract advisors to determine best options, not thinking that the different systems would ever connect. NSW standard gauge, Victoria 5'3", Queensland, West Australia 3'6" and South Australia 5'3" and 3'6". South Oz used US consultant, and much had a US look, most others stayed with the English flavour
You have a bunch of rail videos from Australia on your channel. Did you get a work visa to go down there and film them, or something like that?
Didn't need one, I wasn't working. I was on vacation traveling. I derive no revenue or any other compensation from my channel, it is strictly a hobby. No pay=not working=no need for work visa.
@@fmnut Cool! I asked about a work visa because passports only get you into other countries for so long and it seems like you were down there for a while given how much you filmed. You have really great videos on your channel, and I always enjoy what you post!
@@rockguitarist931 thanks for watching. I visited 3 times, 2014, 16 and 17. Each trip was 6 weeks. Enjoyed every minute. Australian Travel e visas allow up to 6 months stay IIRC.
@@fmnut I was going to do a work & travel program in Australia this year but decided against it for various reasons, and with all this Covid stuff I'm glad I waited. I think I might make a trip there after the hysteria dies down. I really like DL500's and it'd be cool to see them in person.
Bloody SUV drivers. They think they own the road. A timely lesson in manners from a steam locomotive.
I drive an SUV and I drive defensively...The ones who think they own the road are usually BMW drivers, LOL!
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Why the hell was a steam engine there
Norfolk SouthernGuy Did you bother toread the explanation at the beginning of thevvideo????
fmnut uhhhhhhhh I don't like to read
Norfolk SouthernGuy well you are going to have to.
Didn't read the intro, did you? It was on an excursion trip, to Strathalbyn.
Yes