Thanks for your comment. I wanted a clip of each set in preservation and yours was the best of those at IRM. My last visit there was when it was still under restoration.
Thanks for the video. It was nice to see them at speed at their original home in Illinois land Wisconsin. I got to ride them here in Pennsylvania on the Norristown line as Liberty Liners. I enjoyed the fact that SEPTA kept the bar cars in use. I always rode in the evening to my job in Stratford, Pa. Changing to a bus at Villanova. I happened to turn 21 during my travels and decided to have a party on the Liberty Liner to celebrate. I enjoyed my first alcoholic drink in the bar car on the Liberty Liner with some of my friends. Many of them had never been on this train and could not believe SEPTA had such a nice train on that line. By the way I never heard the horn on the Norristown line since there were no grade crossings and no other reason for the operator to sound it. But in the video I heard it and it does remind me of the sound of the GG-1 horn.
Fantastic film. Congratulations from Spain. It is very interesting see these takes of top interurbans trains that soon sadly disappeared but soon will come again.
I was on that three car Bullet fan trip in 1989 Are you sure it wasn't earlier than that? I think it was in the late 1970's or very early 1980's. I believe I have a post card of it.The motorman really wound it up to a high speed on that trip. And in those days, the track wasn't in very good condition. In recent years, the track is rebuilt, but SEPTA reduced the super-elevation on the curves. They've also reduced the top running speed on the modern cars. I rode the line when it was better than a roller coaster. I've been on Bullet cars where the passengers actually crossed themselves and said a Hail Mary.....lol... My favorite seat on a Bullet car was the back motorman's seat.
Some of the sounds were from actual liner recordings, others from generic traction sources. I did the best I could to match the soundtrack to the perceived speed in the film. My goal is plausibility when 100% accuracy isn't possible. Thanks for watching.
The Liners have Westinghouse-Nuttle gear boxes, like the Red Arrow Brilliners and St Louis cars as well as West Penn 832. Silent and no rumbling of universal joints!
Awesome to see them being pushed by the Baldwin to the P&W interchange on the Pennsylvania Railroad's Cardington branch. I believe that footage was at the old Sears/Millbourne Mills site where they just built a C.H.O.P. distribution center.
I enjoyed riding the car sets on the Red Arrow Norristown Line when they were Liberty Liners. I have Liberty Liner drink coasters and cocktail napkins in my collection. I could usually be found at the front window seat. I'm glad both car sets have been saved. The IRM has done a great job with theirs in North Shore colors and lettering. Rock Hill has theirs in the Red Arrow Liberty Liner scheme. Last I heard, the IRM set isn''t fully restored yet. Rock Hill's set, also in need of further restoration operates, but I hear it draws an awful lot of power and puts a real strain on the substation. One prize in my collection is a North Shore lunch check for one Electro Burger.
Funny, people familiar with the North Shore said mgmt reckoned the power draw of an Electroliner to be equivalent to a two car train. The center truck was only fitted with brakes. Total: 5.
I thought the same thing. Being a transit operation rather than a common carrier line, there may have been different rules in effect than the ones with which we're familiar.
I'm sure the Liberty Liners sounded their horns when running past stations they didn't stop at. The gongs were still on these trains but they were never sounded except when leaving or entering a station.
Only happened once, a speed test right after delivery. They overran the timings at grade crossings, the gates not descending until after the train passed. There was also some pronounced oscillation due to the jointed rail. The chief mechanical officer ordered the field shunts (which allowed higher speeds) to be disconnected for safety's sake.
@@michaelXXLF well, I take back what I said earlier. Both horns sound the same note. I based my earlier statement on a few samples from my own audio files. A more complete study revealed the error. Any variations in pitch were probably due to adjustments of the diaphragms or lack thereof. Thanks for watching.
That's one great trainset.
A lounge car and the speeds attainable,
great show!
Hey thanks for using my footage of the electroliner at IRM! This is a nice collection!
Thanks for your comment. I wanted a clip of each set in preservation and yours was the best of those at IRM. My last visit there was when it was still under restoration.
Thanks for the video. It was nice to see them at speed at their original home in Illinois land Wisconsin. I got to ride them here in Pennsylvania on the Norristown line as Liberty Liners. I enjoyed the fact that SEPTA kept the bar cars in use. I always rode in the evening to my job in Stratford, Pa. Changing to a bus at Villanova. I happened to turn 21 during my travels and decided to have a party on the Liberty Liner to celebrate. I enjoyed my first alcoholic drink in the bar car on the Liberty Liner with some of my friends. Many of them had never been on this train and could not believe SEPTA had such a nice train on that line. By the way I never heard the horn on the Norristown line since there were no grade crossings and no other reason for the operator to sound it. But in the video I heard it and it does remind me of the sound of the GG-1 horn.
Fantastic film. Congratulations from Spain. It is very interesting see these takes of top interurbans trains that soon sadly disappeared but soon will come again.
Great video. While I've never had a chance to ride the Liners, I did ride the Brill Bullets, including a three car fan trip back in 1989.
I was on that three car Bullet fan trip in 1989 Are you sure it wasn't earlier than that? I think it was in the late 1970's or very early 1980's. I believe I have a post card of it.The motorman really wound it up to a high speed on that trip. And in those days, the track wasn't in very good condition. In recent years, the track is rebuilt, but SEPTA reduced the super-elevation on the curves. They've also reduced the top running speed on the modern cars. I rode the line when it was better than a roller coaster. I've been on Bullet cars where the passengers actually crossed themselves and said a Hail Mary.....lol... My favorite seat on a Bullet car was the back motorman's seat.
I love those Electro-Liners!
Ironically, both trains have now been owned longer by museums than while in regular service on the North Shore and Red Arrow combined.
4.42 Love the single bell horn! Can even hear the air.
at 1:57 .... that horn sounds like a ship!!! 🤣
@@XBOXShawn12thman it's a Leslie Tyfon horn, originally developed for ships and later adapted for railway use.
@@fmnut THATS AWESOME!!!
About the sound track:
The 'liners in real life had silent gears, may have had PCC drive couplings between motor and axle.
Some of the sounds were from actual liner recordings, others from generic traction sources. I did the best I could to match the soundtrack to the perceived speed in the film. My goal is plausibility when 100% accuracy isn't possible. Thanks for watching.
@@fmnut Your sync work was outstanding.
@@RedArrow73 thanks.
The Liners have Westinghouse-Nuttle gear boxes, like the Red Arrow Brilliners and St Louis cars as well as West Penn 832. Silent and no rumbling of universal joints!
Great stuff once again, superb collection of really interesting units.
Awesome to see them being pushed by the Baldwin to the P&W interchange on the Pennsylvania Railroad's Cardington branch. I believe that footage was at the old Sears/Millbourne Mills site where they just built a C.H.O.P. distribution center.
I enjoyed riding the car sets on the Red Arrow Norristown Line when they were Liberty Liners. I have Liberty Liner drink coasters and cocktail napkins in my collection. I could usually be found at the front window seat. I'm glad both car sets have been saved. The IRM has done a great job with theirs in North Shore colors and lettering. Rock Hill has theirs in the Red Arrow Liberty Liner scheme. Last I heard, the IRM set isn''t fully restored yet. Rock Hill's set, also in need of further restoration operates, but I hear it draws an awful lot of power and puts a real strain on the substation.
One prize in my collection is a North Shore lunch check for one Electro Burger.
Funny, people familiar with the North Shore said mgmt reckoned the power draw of an Electroliner to be equivalent to a two car train.
The center truck was only fitted with brakes. Total: 5.
Very cool old school video
Great historical video👍👍👍👍👍👍
These are really well built trains
Nice footage but what is going on at 7:57 to 8:11 the single car is dangerously close to the Liner it is following, did it run a red signal?
I thought the same thing. Being a transit operation rather than a common carrier line, there may have been different rules in effect than the ones with which we're familiar.
If you uploaded this three days ago this would be perfect
Why is that important? What happened 3 days ago?
@@fmnut The Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee's last full day of service was on January 20th, 1963. Would have been perfect for the 60th Anniversary.
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory sorry, didn't realize that or I would have pushed harder for that date. Thanks for watching.
@@fmnut It's alright. Cool seing more Electroliner footage.
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Would've been perfect if the auto industry hadn't destroyed everything.
On the P & W, as a 10-yo kid I watched a 'Liner hit 80 for about one second.
excellent video my man
I'm sure the Liberty Liners sounded their horns when running past stations they didn't stop at. The gongs were still on these trains but they were never sounded except when leaving or entering a station.
Was this interurban electrified at 660v dc throughout or did it have 1500v dc sections?
600V DC throughout.
@lsochest; No the voltage is 600volts DC CURRENT -to 650 volts DC CURRENT.
would have been neat to see them do all ahead full!!!!! 110 mph.
Only happened once, a speed test right after delivery. They overran the timings at grade crossings, the gates not descending until after the train passed. There was also some pronounced oscillation due to the jointed rail. The chief mechanical officer ordered the field shunts (which allowed higher speeds) to be disconnected for safety's sake.
I saw one those before
Wow. Efficient electric city center to city center transport. Thank god we got rid of that.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic
2:00 sounds almost like a GG1.
Similar type horn, but it's a WABCO E2B rather than the Leslie Tyfon A200 of the GG1'S. Slightly different pitch.
@@fmnut Wee bit higher, isn't it? Thanks for clearing that!
@@michaelXXLF well, I take back what I said earlier. Both horns sound the same note. I based my earlier statement on a few samples from my own audio files. A more complete study revealed the error. Any variations in pitch were probably due to adjustments of the diaphragms or lack thereof. Thanks for watching.
@@fmnut Thanks for diving into that! 😅👍