How Voldemort Killed His Father And Grandparents Without Getting Caught
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- How Voldemort Killed His Father And Grandparents Without Getting Caught
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I hope one day we get the full story of Tom Riddle. That would have been the preferred prequel for 99.99% of HP fans.
Honestly, yeah. But I would prefer someone whose story we haven’t heard completely yet. Like, we already know how Tom turns out and what he does. It’d be nice, perhaps, to learn about someone obscure like Regulus Black or Mad-Eye Moody or even the Prewett Twins.
Heck, I’d even take someone like Andromeda Tonks. I think they could do something with that. Voldemort was just starting to amass followers when most of these characters were in Hogwarts or leaving Hogwarts.
@@Doomzdeh JK built such an expansive universe that there are so many stories yet to be told, so many ways they could take it. HP content could continue for the next 100 years! I’ll be happy with anything they do, I love the book series so much.
@@Doomzdeh We know nothing about what Voldemort did in the years of disappearing before he came back to Hogwarts, nor do we know what he did in the years after that before the wizarding war. We do not even know exactly what happened in the first wizarding war besides Voldemort killing anyone who tried to stop him.
I always did wonder how he was able to pull it off, especially since Dumbledore was supposedly keeping an eye on him.
Dumbledore was, basically no one else was doing the same.
@@Longshanks1690 Tom did more or less admit no one else was suspicious of him besides Dumbledore.
I mean, it’s not as if Dumbledore really ever left Hogwarts, and I doubt that he could reasonably track Tom anywhere once he left Hogwarts and the Orphanage.
Add that to the fact that the Riddle Murders are probably reported as generic “Muggle Murders by Gaunts” and you really don’t give Dumbledore much reason to have heard of the murders and suspect Tom of them.
Plus, even if Dumbledore could’ve intervened, this was around the time that Grindelwald was still running around and causing havoc. I’m sure Dumbledore’s mind was much more concerned about that.
@@Doomzdeh There does seem to be a lot of wire crossings.
I’ve never really thought about why the Trace didn’t detect Tom using magic to kill his father and grandparents while he was underage, but you did a great job with the explanation.
It's pointed out in the books that the trace doesn't detect who did it, just the location. So by the time the ministry got there they found Morfin with the wand that did it, him freely confessing and it helped that he'd previously attacked the same muggles. Nobody was going to look into that much further.
Tomorrow I’m going to the dentist, so I’ve got this question for you Potterheads to figure out: Does the Tooth Fairy exist in Harry Potter?
Fairys/Pixies would be included in a few lessons(depending character type). They use magic as well, so I dont see why not...
Tbh it would have made more sense if the trace was actually something that was placed on the underage magical user's wand instead of their body or however the trace currently works in the books, so any magic cast would be tracked showing what spell casted, location and time. That way it would have made sense for Voldemort to get away with the crime since he was using his uncle's wand.
I was thinking the same exact thing
No it should be on the person & their wand. That way if an under age wizard of attached the ministry know, if the underage age person uses wandless magic somehow they will know & if the underage use wander magic they will know.
Then the ministry would have not heard about the blowing of Miss Marjorie Dursley. Harry didn’t use his wand on that occasion.
It's a light head-canon, but I've always assumed that wizard methods, like muggle technology, does become more advanced over time. The trace during Tom Riddle's time was simply not as effective, or perhaps it didn't even exist yet.
I still want to know how Tom Riddle found the chamber of secrets when he was at school.
the basilisk probably spoke to him
@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk Probably.
I like to think he was being creepy and lucked out
@@millerjames908 Maybe.
I always thought that he used the Basilsk. It would definitely explain the terrified looks on their faces.
That conversation would be an interesting read.
Guess the ministry needs to update and upgrade the trace charm.
Like any aspiring politician, he got other people to do his dirty work for him and then left them to clean up his mess while he got off with no consequences.
but the ministry would know an underage wizard was present. So someone else had to be at the crime scene. And it would take little to no detective skills to notice the murdered family's last name was all Riddle. And an underage student at Hogwarts just happens to have to same last name? And they didn't even look into it at all?
the ministry is known to be useless. and they had Morfin, a known racist who hated the Riddles and had been imprisoned before for attacking muggles, openly admitting to killing the Riddles.
What if you did your own video of your own conversation between Tom riddle And his Muggle family when he goes to the riddles machine
I know the whole point is that the MOM is incompetent but it really should be standard operating procedure to prod a suspect’s memories with veritaserum or a pensive in the days leading up to the crime to make sure even their confessions aren’t under the influence of the Imperius Curse.
It really shouldn’t be possible to have a miscarriage of justice with those tools available to the court to determine the truth of the matter.
Reading the books are important
Sheesh. I guess the horcruxes took more than a piece of Voldemort's soul. They also took part of his cunning. Guile truly thrives in the shadow of fear.
My theories:
1 - Tom was noted but not the way Harry was. The Trace normally has a few Aurors or related enforcement on them, looking at all underage activity for all of Britain. Harry had teams just for him, when he was favored by Fudge, and when he was targeted.
2 - The unpopularity of the Riddles could have been from any number of things, but I would like to propose a somewhat controversial take - I say controversial because it can seem to be victim-blaming. Tom Sr. did not deserve to be used and imprisoned, that out of the way. But his family, especially the men, may have made sweet talk to the women of the surrounding villages and then walked away, like a seductive prima noctae situation. Hell, if the Trio ever investigated Little Hangleton, they might find whole nests of Riddles who were denied by their fathers and stirred the resentments we heard tell of.
3 - It is entirely possible Tom Jr. went there with murder on his mind, and his only intent. But part of me wonders if he didn't first ask for acknowledgement, possibly a stipend or grant/trust, only to be harshly turned away due to the association with Tom Sr.'s ordeal combined with the upper-crust air-sniffing the family seemed to engage in. It literally may not have mattered, but I wonder if an attitude of 'the boy exists, we won't embrace him but we will give him some small due' might have purchased their lives. I guess some optimistic part of me has to imagine that at some point, there was still something in Tom Jr. that could be reached out to. Maybe that's just naive.
now this is the content i’ve been waiting for, it feels like one of your vids from back in the day great work
Imagine voldemort having a trial
Poor dude man. Him being evil and a psychopath was his moms fault for having a child by way of a love spell. She inadvertently cast the worst evil ever seen upon the world out of selfishness.
I think how he was able to get away with it has more to do with timing.
He traced his family but the MOM knew the Gaunts and that the weren't any underage wizards in their household nor the proximities of Little Hangleton.
So he did the killing curse and the memory altering charms then probably 'dissaparated' himself from the scene. Probably took him about 20 to 30 minutes to achieve such deeds. Then the MOM only got there too late and the police even later on, to find the only suspect who later confessed to the crimes.
Maybe the MOM detected the underage magic done there in the Gaunt's house, went there and since a crime took place but the suspect was not underage, they probably thought it might had been a mistake and didn't investigate further.
It is very possible. Jk probably had to explained it and not leave it to our imagination something so crucial to the plot and the story BUT in the story's defense I'll say, it's better this way so we all put our own pieces of imagination into it and it makes it even more interesting.
Really enjoyed the animation on this video
...and there it is. Tom Riddle Jr had no roots in Little Hangleton thus he commits murder and just walks away.
there's your answer.
Yeah. Voldemort was a smart bastard not just plain evil. Truly special character that could have been good if raised in a different loving way. I understand how evil Morfin was as well, however I felt bad for him on his sad fate he didn't deserve it. No matter how evil a person is, nobody deserves losing his clear mind it's even far more cruel than death. And while murder is of course a horrible thing, I can understand why he did it to his father. However his grandparents he could have just obliviate them and forget he ever met them. But to him he wanted to erase every drop of dirty heritage. Not the Gaunt heritage was so much better because it wasn't.
Puzzled by the name Riddle. I see what you did there.
Not to mention he used an adult's wand
He actually got rid of Half of the worst wizards in history
Now I'm not sure if you take suggestions for videos but I have a question that's been eating at me for a while now. Are there gods/deities in the Harry Potter universe? The books make no explicit mention of them but considering the Tale of the Three Brothers implies the existence of a personification of death at least, it got me thinking on whether or not there might be other powerful beings that embody other fundamental concepts as well.
In a deadly twisted way he did the right thing sorta He got rid of the worst wizards in the world 🌎
I can't believe he actually got a away with it
Hello Dean!!..how are you doing?
4:19 - there's an error in the wording here. The third line says "prefect" instead of "perfect".
How did Voldemort know he was related to the Gaunt family??
His middle name was his mothers father
@@pumpkinthecat8109 that’s the best answer I’ve heard and it makes sense. With all the research he did
But the Ministry would have known that an underage witch or wizard was present at the time of the murders. Why for Merlin’s sake did they not investigate who and where this person was?
The Ministry made no attempt to interrogate Morfin Gaunt about who this second unknown witch or wizard was. The sheer laziness on their part staggers the mind.
I Always Wanted To Know How He Found Them And Did This Thank You For Making This Video❗❗❗🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
Nice job with the accents, they sound quite rough so I never even tried when reading the book.
Is it possible for the trace to, in some cases, be linked to the wand of the underaged wizard? So if the ua wizard in question performed magic with their own wand, even if not in a place they are living, the trace recognises the wand registered to an ua wizard and alerts the ministry?
So does the fact that Nagini was a young woman in her early-mid 20s during the fantastic beast films mean that Tom riddle had a thing for older women?? 🤔
Was the trace in effect back then, or was that law enacted at a later date?
The muggles probably had a wanted poster Tom Riddle.
Might have been more boring book series if he got caught🤔 Would be cool to know whether Harry would be at all extraordinary without Voldy plotting his demise at the end of every school year :D
the conversation went probably went like this
- hi
- hi
- i am your son and your grandson
- son? i dont have a son
- dont be like that dad, i need love. dont abandon me
- i dont know you
- sure you do, im Merope's sun
- (intense fear) no... no... omg.. no stay away
(grandparents): back, leave this place boy
- why
- leave now, leave or we wont call the cops
- excuse me
- your mother was a witch, she used a love spell to keep our poor boy under her thumb
- no.. no thats not true
- for so long
father attacks tom
- you wont make me go back there with her
- get off of me
- you wont, i cant, i cant
- get off of me
- youre all just the same, all you are witches. all of you must die
- get OFF (shoots him away, father takes a nasty bruise)
grandpartents: you... you monster
- monster....?
Cue deaths of all
heyy! if tom didn't have any love or affection towards his mother(as he had nothing for anyone) how did he care about his mother that he searched and killed the man who abandoned her????
I wish scenes with Riddles and Gaunts were retained in the movie as deleted scenes! They were filmed but some idiot chose not to release them!
They deserve it 👏💓❤💗🤧💖
sotty but the trace according to real PROF MOODY knows all details about the use
twisted
Surely if the trace was detected then the ministry should have known it wasn’t Voldemort’s uncle?
the trace doesn't track the underage wizards exact magic, it tracks magic in their area
He also used Morfin's wand. The trace wouldn't have been on it.
Wand doesn’t matter
Even Dobby wandless elf magic trip the trace and Harry got the blame
@@lucifersdevilishdetails. The killing curse came from the wand and that wand was Morfin's and proclaimed that he proudly killed the Riddles. Riddle had all the skills to frame him with success.
@@headstrongbachelor3152 the wand doesn't matter, tom had the trace on him so the mom was notified that an underaged wizard was there the instant he cast the first spell.
@@oyblech8671 Which mom?
@@headstrongbachelor3152 the ministry of magic
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Another issue is that Tom had used his Uncle's Wand to commit his crime and in Harry's case, he used his own when he cast a Patronus Charm to save Dudley from the Dementors.
The use of any Wand in the Wizarding World is regulated the same way as Gun Control for the Muggles and Wand Crafting would be so regulated that only a few Wizards can craft them and rarely teach this trade. 🪄🔮