FINALY WE KNOW: Why Voldemort Never Turned The Sword Of Gryffindor Into A HORCRUX
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2023
- Today I want to talk about why Voldmeort never turned the sword of Gryffindor into a horcrux but you’ll have already guessed that by the title of todays video. So if you check out Voldemort’s horcruxes you’ll have noticed a trend in that he seemed to be collecting the Hogwarts founders ancient artefacts, basically one personal item that was synonymous with each founder. He located the locket of Salazar Slytherin and converted it into a horcrux, he did the same with the cup of Helga Hufflepuff and went 3/4 by tricking Helena Ravenclaw into revealing the location of the lost diadem of Ravenclaw before turning that item into a horcux. So as I said, it’s bit of a trend and it raise the question as to why he didn’t add the sword of Gryffindor to his horcrux collection as that item was basically the most powerful of the 4. Let’s take look at the sword so we can work this whole thing out.
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It didn't have basilisk venom in it until after harry stabbed the basilisk. For one. Also it repels dark magic.
I figured he didn't turn the sword of Gryffindor into a horcrux because only a true Gryffindor could pull it from the hat of where it was hidden.
The hat would have been the better option to be honest. It belonged to godric was significant to all of the houses and that would give you the ability to mess with the sorting process and stack your team by putting all the best achievers in the house where your ideology is being promoted.
Plus how can a Slytherin use the sword against a Gryffindor? (Also brings me another question, if you are a Gryffindor, can you use the sword against a Gryffindor?) Let’s say he was able to bring the sword to Potters’ home somehow. They are both Gryffindor, so Voldemort couldn’t use it to create a horcrux because Potters were in danger, so the sword would actually serve to them, not Voldemort.
Curse u I was going to say that
If he really wanted why not imperio some poor gryffindor to retrieve the sword for him? Peter pettigrew perhaps?
Right, so he was hoping it would appear at the Potter's house when he went to kill Harry amd James
2:51 no it wasn't, that only happened later when Harry killed the basilisk. Voldemort created his hocruxes before that.
Exactly what I thought
I was about to say the same thing, but I never read the books, so I wasn't sure.
Exactly Hermione would agree
Not every horcrux because he made Nagini his horcrux in the goblet of fire
Aye Aye Aye now don’t even defend Godric Gryffindor and aim your head at Salazar Slytherin 😂
Pre reveal guess: sword of gryfindor only takes on that will make it stronger. We learn in deathly hallows. My thinking is that dark magic corrupts and weakens, and creating a horcrux is one of the DARKEST pieces of magic there is. Therefore it likely would have rejected it
Because it by nature repels dark magic. I wonder though, what other object from Gryffindor could have been used, as the sword would repel the dark magic, and I don't see the hat putting up with that kind of nonsense.
or he would just be giving the will of gryffindor a hard line into his soul
Yes, Voldy wanted his soul in seven parts, but accidentally split it into eight. In many cultures, 8 is an unlucky number. Even in the game of pool, it is unlucky to be “behind the 8 ball”. I wonder if Rowling had this in mind.
True, seven was however the target number. There were 6 horcruxes planned, the diary, the ring, the cup, the locket, the diadem made 5. Whatever object that Riddle intended to used for the sixth when he killed Harry is unknown for certain, but Harry's death would have formed the sixth, with the seventh being still in Riddle himself. Riddle turned Nagini into what he thought would be the sixth, not realizing that Harry himself had become an accidental horcrux. Thus in turn the eighth piece. It certainly was unlucky for Riddle!
What’s the 7th then? Cuz I’ve only counted 7
@@Roxi22RNAF If you’ve counted seven, then you know what it is.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 I am wanna point out Quirinus Krengle. The defense against dark arts professor also was some sort or Horcrux. So voldy splitted his soul 9 times more likely.
@trueredpanda1538 Hmmmmm, that's an interesting point, however in my way of thinking, it was more of a possession, as he didn't kill Professor Quirell.
You're theory about the sword being immune to dark magic makes perfect sense 👍 I was thinking the same thing.
Well if I was going to turn an item that belonged to Gryffindor into a horcrux it would be his hat... It would allow you to manipulate the sorting process and would be kept safe in Hogwarts.
And nobody would ever notice
I feel like the risk would be too great, since it remains in the headmaster’s office when not in use. The other items were able to be hidden away, but the Sorting Hat becoming corrupt in front of hundreds of students and teachers would have been suspicious. If it would have worked, it would have been genius but Im not sure it would have been a good idea
A thing is safest in the place it's not looked for
And every student will know the creepy ass energy spewing from it , until it's destroyed real quick . Very bad idea . Horcruxes are supposed to remain hidden .
However, the hat being sentient would cause problems. Not to mention, that if a lot of children started filling up Slytherin House, that in and of itself would raise suspicion. Gryffindor's Hat is way too public.
The sword 🗡️ took one look at Voldemort and said, No thank you, pass, NEXT hahahaha 😂 LMAO.... Thank you 💕... 5/5.... 👍
Man your microphone is either very broken or my youtube app is. :D
I’m sorry but I have to take all of this with a huge grain of salt. The swords true resting place isn’t the hat. It’s explained over and over that the Sword appears for the witch or wizard, usually in Gryffindor, who is worthy and in need of it. We see it in the hat because that’s how it "chose" to appear to Harry. Not because the sword was secretly waiting there the whole time…
The sword only appears to true Gryffindors, and the sword naturally resists dark magic so he couldn’t have made it a horcrux if he wanted too. Also, the sword didn’t have basilisk venom until after the horcruxes had been made.
The reason he didn't make the Sword of Gryffindor a Horcrux was lack of access. Dumbledore only let him into the school for the job interview. He could hardly steal it right from under Dumbledore's nose. Maybe, if he could have gotten the DADA position, he'd have found an opportunity, and replaced it with a copy so exact, only a goblin could tell the difference. But Dumbledore would never have let him in the school long term.
As for the issue of Basilisk venom, that would only happen years later when Harry stabbed the Basilisk. So it would not have been a problem initially. I doubt it would have mattered later, because the Sword cannot be destroyed by Basilisk venom, so a soul fragment placed inside it would have an extra layer of protection. You'd probably have to toss that thing into a volcano to destroy it.
If Voldemort ever had the opportunity, the Sword would have been a Horcrux. Fortunately, it was not, and remained an important tool for destroying the Horcruxes.
The sword only accepts magic that will make it stronger.
And a piece of a Slytherins soul? I don't think the sword would allow it. But supposedly Voldemort had the sword to protect the other Horcruxes. He got it from Snape, but it was fake.
Not sure your point of Godric being the opposite of Salazar to be totally accurate honestly.
By that logic what of Helga? She was willing to accept anyone and everyone.
Though Godric was not an elitist like Salazar, he still have goals and 'desireable' traits among those he took into his house. Someone who wasn't...."brave at heart, their daring, nerve, and chivalry" or did not value those things would not be ideal for Gryffindor.
While Hufflepuff is 'just and loyal', Helga was famous and known to have 'accepted them all without preference'.
I always assumed he WAS trying to. He went to a Gryfindors house hoping it would appear to them, and he could then kill Harry and make the sword a horcrux
The sword didn't absorb the basilisk venom until after he made the horcruxes
and thus became the best horcrux destroying weapon.
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The sword was'nt imbued with Basilisc's venom before Harry defeated the Basilisc.
Interesting video!
Interesting! Great thinking, Dean!
I believe he did not turn the sword into a horcrux because he could not get it, that is why he wanted a teaching job. When he had control of Haywarts he already made his horcruxes and the sword was impregnated with basilisk venom. If he was able to get it he would have used it.
Before the video begins I'm going to guess he planned to the night he was destroyed. The reason he didn't go after the Potters immediately after Wormtail betrayed them is he was searching for the sword to turn into a horcrux with baby Harry's murder. That's my guess.
Super Carlin Brothers have a theory explaining the fact that Peter Pettigrew told voldemort where the potters were hiding and he waited several months to move on that information. And they theorize that he was searching for the sword and through his research he determined that he needed a worthy Gryffindor to summon it. So he set a trap for Fabian and Gideon Prewitt (Molly Weasley's brothers) he cornered them with superior forces in the hopes that the sword would appear for them In this desperate situation. SCB also think that it worked because he almost immediately afterwards went after the Potters, most likely with the sword in hand but of course his plan failed and the sword disappeared before anyone searched the wreckage of the house. I really like this theory.
The only plausible reason I could think about is because the sword was Goblin made and not wizard made like the three other artifacts
Just for the line "a huge-ass snake" alone, I had to give this video a thumbs-up.
My dude, I love your content and admire your research and theory on Harry Potter lore.
but I simply cannot unhear that hum in the background of your narration. Sure the music kind of does mask it but its obviously there and you can clearly hear when you've cut and spliced the audio together. I'd recommend playing around with noise reduction in whatever editing software you're using to make these videos.
This is just a critique and a suggestion. I am aware how annoying it can be to do away with background noise when trying to splice together an audio narration.
All things aside, Keep up this magnificent work! :)
It would be a big middle finger to Gryffindor house if he could get a hold of the same sword and put a horcrux in it. He probably thought he was so powerful that he could probably override the enchantments on it.
The sword did not become coated in Basilisk Venom until after The events of Chamber of Secrets.
What would happen if Voldemort took a love potion antidote? Would it change him?
not willignly buth rather tricked by severus snape after or before he killed the potters
It stayed with Severus Snape when he was headmaster for a while until he placed it in the pond or whatever it was for Harry to get. Note to self don't put a sword in deep water that is frozen over and expect a teen to safely get it. You could have killed him Severus
That was an unfortunate necessity for Harry to actually get the sword. Dumbledore even reminded Snape of that when he was setting out to do so.
What would’ve happened if the basilisk actually succeeded in killing the Horcrux inside Harry Potter?
Right !!
Interesting question, I'll look at the possibility of making a video on it
@@HarryPotterFolklore I’ll look forward to it
@@HarryPotterFolklore I have another one for you, what if Voldemort realized umbridge had the locket before Harry did. I don't know if you've ever covered that
whai if harry was never turned into a horcrux, but was still destined to defeat voldermort?
Maybe he got possession of the sword before it was imbued with basilisk venom through any of the Gryffindors that he tortured and killed. The sword could have come to those Gryffindors in combat if they were worthy, and once dead, left the sword behind, which Voldemort took. He probably intended to use the sword to make a horcrux when he killed Harry. We all know what happened then. The sword probably just disappeared from the Potter's house.
How did Voldermor find the room of requirement. Do a video on that
The room appears for anyone who happens to be in need of it, being found (accidentally or intentionally) by many students who need to hide something. The room may appear for other reasons, but because the goal of hiding something is so common, it’s known as the place of hidden things. Voldemort needed to hide something, and so the room appeared. Voldemort being skilled, likely quickly found out how the room works and how to "control" when he needed it to appear. Just like Harry and Dumbledores Army do in Order of the Phoenix.
From whence do you get your video clips? I’ve never seen these movies before!!!
Well one thing it could take him a long time to track it down because after all he was a Slytherin and it only works for true Griffandor
A lot of background noise today on the microphone but good video overall
The sword did not have the venom until harry used it against the basilisk. Also the main reason that JK probably didn't use it for one of Big Tom's soul anchors is because its indestructible and would thus break the story because Big Tom would then be unkillable. From a character point of view though the sword had been lost during the time Big Tom was making those soul things so he probably just couldn't find it. Not like the dude is God or something if you can't find something you can't use it. Bro is lucky he found the items he did and in some cases it was legit luck like the cup. Also the copy of the sword was made by Snape did you even read the books bro?
i want to see why he didn't turn the sorting hat into a horcrux/what would've happened if he did.
What about the Triwizard cup? That’s of significance in the wizarding world
The scenes showing voldemort and the diary along with voldemort and hepsuba Smith, what are they from? I don't recall those scenes being in the movies.
i can only imagine horcrux-hat would sort people into mudblood or not and sing a very rude school song.
I don't think he could. From my understanding the sword only takes in that which makes it stronger. And Voldemort's whole life was a play to shore up his own percieved weaknesses. Not an existance coming from a source of strength. I do not think the sword would see his soul as something that would make It stronger. So I don't believe he couldn't have infected it, with his shattered soul. It would have rejected his attempt.
Are you talking about making the sword later on because the sword only gained the venom after it was used on the basilisk. Prior to that it never had the venom.
Well in the book Voldemort's "Love" Bellatrix was given it to hide in her volt. But it doesn't take in that will make it weaker. So the sword rejected the magic of a horcruxe creation. And got out of her bank when Harry gets it to kill the basilisk. It will present itself to any true Gryffindor.
Technically Voldemort "trusted" Bellatrix not "love".
Ummm according to the books the sword of Gryffindor didnt had any ability to destroy horcruxes before the events of the chamber of secrets. When Potter used it to kill the basilisc it got impregnated with its venom, granting the power to destroy horcruxes.
I think he was going to try and turn the sword into a horcrux and I think he was even able to lock it down temporarily after molly's brother were killed I think the reason he didn't finish his plan was the kill he w as going to use to split his soul for it was hit with the old uno reverse card. Also I think the sword would have either rejected the soul fragment or spit it back out right after he finished the spell
The sword wasn't it Dumbledore's office when Voldermort went to see him. Well, not on display anyway. At that point in time, no one knew where it was, until it showed up for Harry in the Chamber of Secrets. Why it stayed on display in Dumbledore's office after that.... who knows. Maybe, like you said, it felt secure there at that time. It even stayed around long enough to be hidden behind the portrait of Dumbledore after his death. Maybe the sword sensed its higher purpose, and didn't disappear until after Griphook took it.
The sword didnt have the venom until the 2nd hardy potter book. So that's a nonstarter until then.
The sword is just like Thor's hammer. The reason Voldemort couldn't turn into a horcrux is because he wasn't worthy to wield the sword of Gryffindor.
Wait the sword was imbued with basilisk venom from when it was forged? I thought it was when Harry stabbed the basilisk.
I've actually always thought of Voldemort as someone who would very much have loved the irony of corrupting something that belonged to an enemy, so he might well have tried to turn the sword into a horcrux had he ever managed to get his hands on it in the years before Harry used it on the basilisk. Of course he still might well have failed given the sword's natural ability to reflect dark magic, even had he managed to get hold of it before it became infused with basilisk venom.
It be curious in what happen if he did make it as a horcrux. Cuz killing the other horcruxes u be using the sword or a fang but then how would u kill the sword
Will the channel be shutting down soon
The sword was not enfused With venom when the other 3 were made
With his soul
Does anyone know where the scene from 4:56 to 4:19 is from
I can imagine him swinging in a fivgt casting depulso massive slash
It didn't have venom in it until Harry stabbed the snake so when he was creating his own original ones yea he probably could have
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Please fix the mic i couldnt finish the vid , it was giving me headache....
I always thought it was because the sword would've disappeared on him before he ever had a chance. The sword appears to a true Gryffindor, those who truly have courage, nerve, daring, and chivalry, we all know that. But I think even those in other houses would b able to get as long as they were righteous and noble in their cause. Take Leta Lestrange for example, she may have been brave in the end, and despite her being in Slytherin, she wasn't evil. If she was more brave, then the sword would've appeared to her had she had the hat.
If goblin metal deflects dark magic how did ranroc manage to imbue the goblin metal with isadora's pained magic
Not canon, technically.
The collars etc could be shallow in order to keep the strain inside, only having the visual effect leaking. Also, it was his ancestor that made the huge repositories for "storing" ancient magic, so another explanation could be that ranrok was an inferior goblin-smith and his creations would run out of said magic eventually.
If you complete your quests with Poppy you find goblin metal collars and even Dragons (like the one that attacks you during the intro) but they no longer have traces of ancient magic.
Also if Cursed Child is canon, Hogwarts Legacy that truly respects all aforementioned lore as well as the timeline should be canon.
Why Voldy not use Peter Pettigrew to retrieve the sword.
I wonder if that's also why he wanted to recruit Harry's parents. They were true Gryffindors and would've been able to get the sword for him.
Only those who are truly brave and have pure heart are able to get it. Neither Voldemort nor his followers were of pure heart.
Super Carlin Brothers came up with the theory that he did get the sword by tricking the two brothers of Molly Weasley into a fight to receive the sword. Then on the night that he went to kill Harry to make him the final horcrux that it disappeared back to the school. I think that Voldemort knew that it would return to the school so even if he did manage to succeed and putting Harry Sol in it it would have been safe at the school and nobody would have known and it was probably hurt the next Gryffindor of the used it that was his plan.
He couldn't get his hands on it
I agree with the bulk of this, but the Basilisk venom part doesn't really factor. There's no indication that the sword was imbued with the venom prior to Harry killing the Basilisk with the sword. He created his horocrux prior to Harry even being born, so I just don't think that specific point really stands.
I think your microphone has broken, there's a slight humming sound whenever you speak
That's my hard drive, i've placed it on the floor now
Wait, the sword wasn't imbued with basilisk venom until AFTER his fall when he failed to kill Harry...and made an accidental Horcrux.
Nice A.I. Art :) you can see some fingers not match the bodies XD LOL
Bro, good video, but every time you speak im hearing and bass like sound in the background that makes me mad xD
That's my hard drive, i've placed it on the floor now
Simple answer: He could not as he was not a Gryffindor! Dude was a genius enchanting that sword to reveal to Gryffindor students only!
Honestly I always thought that it was because Gryffindor was muggle born
Question: why didn't Voldemort make something extremely hard/ impossible to reach a horcrux?
For example: make a peice of dirt a horcrux or make someone like the sun or a black hole a horcrux
"Was already imbued with basilisk venom"? That didn't happen until Harry's second year, when Voldemort was long since done making horcruxes (Nagini being a possible exception) and when he was incorporeal and too weak to even attempt it. By the time he was back in a body, he couldn't go to Hogwarts to search for items and confirm his return. The basilisk blood/venom doesn't even factor. He would have attempted it before the curse backfired when it wasn't thusly imbued. The basilisk is irrelevant.
I always thought that he was going to with Harry's death but then I also thought if you tried it wouldn't work because the sword because the way the sword world exorb magic
Interesting
Why wouldn't Voldemort destroy Harry's glasses?
Can the sword deflect Avada Kadevra ???
The simplest idea would be that he could never find the Gryffindor sword because he's not a Gryffindor so find it or it appeared to him couldn't happen even if he did found It could just disappear again
The sword wasn’t imbued with basalisk venom until book 2, and Voldemort would have tried during the 1st wizarding war.
(@3:00) \WHAT?! NO! The sword was not imbued with basilisk venom until WELL after Voldemort was don't making horcruxes. smh. So that it had been imbued would NOT have been a reason he would have dismissed the sword.
Before I watched the vid: he wasn’t a true grif
Your audio has a vibration effect
if voldemort knew that the sword would teleport and he didnt wanna lose it then he would know that the sword in bellatrix's vault was a fake.
I think the reason the sword wasn’t turned into a horcrux was because old Voldy couldn’t find it during the time where he made his horcruxes before he lost his original body. By the time Voldy got “reborn” with the new body, the sword was already imbued with basilisk venom, and the only Horcrux he made while in the new body as far as I know, was Nagini.
Between where the sword was hidden, hat was kept and the properties of goblin made artifacts, the sword was just a no go when it comes to horcruxes. The hat he just wouldn’t have been able to get his hands on, especially not after being denied a teaching position which meant he got denied free access to the school and Dumbledore’s office.
The reason the ring, locket, goblet and diadem were turned into horcruxes was because those items crossed his path and/or someone knew where to find them, and also not goblin made
The items don't have to be significant right? It's just we'd expect a Dark Wizard or any villain really to put some creativity into their master plans. But if he wanted to, I'm sure he could have put his horcrux into some random item at Hogwarts. We don't even know exactly how they're made so I don't think we can assume that a horcrux has to have some intrinsic value to the owner.
Well Voldemort wasn't a Gryffindor he was a Slytherin so it would be harder for him to get so I don't think he would want his Horcrux just floating around anywhere.
I think you got one fact wrong when you mention the grey area of the possibility of creating the sword horcrux when it already was imbued with basilisk venom. I don't think this is accurate because the sword only got imbued in basilisk venom during the events of the Chamber of the Secrets, so by the time Voldemort was creating the horcruxes, the sword had not yet the power to destroy them. However, the grey area that one could consider would be if the sword would indeed become a horcrux and later on absorbed the powers of the venom, so in that case, would the sword self-destroy?
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But what if he did?
I think voldy had the sword with him when he went to kill Harry and it vanished when voldy was hit
What if Vernon had shot Hagrid when he came to deliver Harry's Hogwarts letter? Would the Dursleys have succeeded in keeping Harry from going?
That was the horcrux he was trying to make when he went to kill Harry
hey bud there is something wrong with your voice over i can hear alot of background noise thats coming through
Hufflepuff: a cup of good earth
Ravenclaw: an air of confidence
Slytherin: a deep dark heart
Gryffindor: a spark of hope (fleeting)
5:59 This is inaccurate, the maximum you can split your soul was 7. Voldemort died when Neville destroyed Nagini, the final duel between Harry and Voldemort was actually just to stall for time.
Yeh it showed that in the films. Their is probably a reason why. Something to do with godric and Salazar. No it was Harry because was a Gryffindor. Their was a future reason why. That being Harry. Harry was number 7 and that was a downfall for him. Voldermort just didn't know.
He never knew what pride meant.
What is the gray THORY?
The sword was definitely NOT the strongest of the four artifacts. It was ONLY a weapon that was not special beyond that use. Meanwhile the Diadem gave you immense knowledge which is super useful in any situation, and the locket which could give you various powers such as reading the minds of the people around you or even controlling them, and there is even a possibility it allowed the wearer to fly. The sword is definitely one of the weaker ones.
Tell me you are a Slytherin that absolutely despises Gryffindor without telling me you are a Slytherin that absolutely despises Gryffindor.
- Diadem: It was said to enhance the wisdom of its wearer, which is Ravenclaw House's most treasured attribute. Also carried some misfortune. No immense knowledge out of nowhere.
- Cup: The cup was said to possess many magical powers, though the exact nature of those powers is not known. It probably had food-related powers, and if it respected Gamp's Law, it means that said cup summoned food and did not create it, just like Helga's other creations in the house-elf kitchen that bring food to the hall.
- Locket: Before becoming a Horcrux, the locket was described by Hepzibah Smith as having "all kinds of powers", though *_she failed to elaborate_* and the only way to open the locket was to speak to it in Parseltongue. Since it is a locket, it could possibly store items and make them completely inaccessible unless you know how to open it but this is more speculation. The one fact we have is that it enhanced Umbridge's patronus due to her affinity with the item, but we don't know if this was due to being a horcrux. The defensive capabilities were Voldie's doing. Also, the mind-reading stuff is its aforementioned defense as a horcrux, while the possibility you say is just about THE HORNED SERPENT and has nothing to do with the locket.
- Sword: Much like a wand, the sword of Gryffindor appeared to be almost sentient, responding to appeals for help by Gryffindor's chosen successors. Penetrates Gringotts's protection to present itself. Only becomes stronger due to goblin silver while not rusting etc. Was handcrafted by a legendary goblin king that was their finest silversmith and even sparked rebellions in order to get it back to goblin hands. Killed Nagini in one hit, while a point-blank Confringo to the face did NOTHING. And casually JKR mentioned it's her equivalent to Excaliber and other treasured legendary enchanted swords.
@@babrad And???? It’s still just a sword.
@@babrad Lol you sound like a dumb gryffindor. And you’re absolutely incorrect about your facts with the locket. The locket was made with the gem that came from a horned serpent, which is literally said to give wizards the power of invisibility and flight. Check yourself.
@@TheSascatch if it was just a sword it wouldn't be the most important of all the founders artifacts.... along with the hat.
@@babrad That is subjective…. Are you being serious??? The only reason there was such a focus on it was because Harry used it because he was in Gryffindor. It happened to have one specific trait that made it important to destroy horcruxes. If it didn’t have that one trait, it would have rarely been used. I mean, even Voldemort didn’t find it important enough to turn into a horcrux. He thought it was sitting in Lestrabge’s vault and didn’t ever try.
Imagine he managed to make the sword into a Horcrux... Harry sitting there thinking what would be his next horcrux as such his next objective, then as a true Gryffindor student in need the sword appears him, he realises its a Horcrux and destroys it. The End.
*Short answer: The curse backfired*