Voldemort's Parents: The Origins of Tom and Merope

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  • @HarryPotterFolklore
    @HarryPotterFolklore  3 роки тому +69

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      @samcotten2485 3 роки тому +12

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      @polopopolo2197 3 роки тому +6

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      @angelishifts 3 роки тому +2

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      @j.s.8392 3 роки тому +2

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    • @paschameleon
      @paschameleon 3 роки тому +2

      Very well made video as always!
      I wonder though, what if Tom was adopted by a loving family as a baby? Would he still follow the same path and end up being evil? Would he understand love and have a conscious? What would the outcome be?

  • @alzbeta2967
    @alzbeta2967 3 роки тому +123

    And this is exactly why we need a movie solely about Tom's life. Just imagine what kind of masterpiece it could be if they casted the right actors and added for example Regulus' life into it, or simply the purebloods families who were helping Voldemort.

    • @dylanlanders364
      @dylanlanders364 2 роки тому

      Who would you cast as who

    • @dietdrpepper15
      @dietdrpepper15 2 роки тому +1

      Just to build up to the scene with Tom meeting Tom Sr and his grand parents. I want that damn scene!

  • @zawwin1846
    @zawwin1846 3 роки тому +296

    I don’t think Merope really loved Tom for who he is as a person. She saw a rich handsome guy who can feed her fantasies. That is not love.

    • @silly_.rabbit2
      @silly_.rabbit2 3 роки тому +74

      Yes, it's called lust.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +34

      At least Rowling portrayed Merope's obsession with Tom Sr for what it was. If only she'd done the same with Snape's fixation on Lily.

    • @isobelduncan
      @isobelduncan 3 роки тому +50

      Given her abusive upbringing, she likely didn't know what love was.

    • @gloomysunday8242
      @gloomysunday8242 3 роки тому +22

      Her fantasies? She wanted to be happy and live a normal life.

    • @vanessat7758
      @vanessat7758 3 роки тому +3

      @@Xehanort10 STFU

  • @mizzmiimii
    @mizzmiimii 3 роки тому +190

    Understandable why Tom senior rejected Tom. He was a victim effectively and seeing Tom junior would’ve probably been traumatic. Meroupe was sympathetic character but she did take away his ability to consent so abused him whether she meant to or not. Most people would probably have similar reaction in this situation.

    • @r6plays126
      @r6plays126 3 роки тому +8

      @Guto i agree with you but its funny how Tom Riddle sr would just be looking at himself

    • @rubenmanukyan9337
      @rubenmanukyan9337 3 роки тому +11

      Yes and he was so young he was like 18 he had every right to leave.

    • @rufiredup90
      @rufiredup90 3 роки тому +15

      @@r6plays126 But he’d still know that the child wouldn’t have come into being were it not for Merope. He’d see his face but know that half of the boy is his rapist. Also, when Tom Jr starts to do magic without even knowing how as a baby, how would he have reacted? He might be painfully reminded that it’s Merope’s side that gave him those magical abilities. He’d also freak the f*ck out most likely since the only form of magic he’d ever known was what caused him to be raped multiple times.

    • @lavinialadlass9432
      @lavinialadlass9432 2 роки тому +1

      In Harry Potter and the goblet of fire it says that when the riddles bodies were found all of them looked horrified.

    • @elora179
      @elora179 2 роки тому +1

      It was a child of rape poor guy. He may have looked like him but he was her child

  • @HarryPotterTheory
    @HarryPotterTheory 3 роки тому +232

    Keep up the good work Dean ⚡

  • @TeachMeBert
    @TeachMeBert 3 роки тому +143

    Makes me wonder what would have happened if Tom had been born a squib. Probably would have ended up becoming a serial killer or something.

    • @TheSaneHatter
      @TheSaneHatter 3 роки тому +31

      Very likely: psychologists examining the books have noted that, in addition to Lockhart's narcissism and Harry's Imposter Syndrome, Voldemort has a LOT of serial-killer traits.

    • @TeachMeBert
      @TeachMeBert 3 роки тому +15

      Considering how many people Voldemort kills throughout the series, I wonder how long it took them to reach that conclusion. XD

    • @silly_.rabbit2
      @silly_.rabbit2 3 роки тому +4

      @@TheSaneHatter Harry has Impostor syndrome?

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +7

      Even as an 11 year old he was acting serial killer like, killing animals like Billy Stubbs's rabbit which he made hang itself from the orphanage rafters, torturing people like whatever he did to Amy Benson and Dennis Bishop in the cave and bullying the other kids in the orphanage and stealing their stuff as sick trophies.

    • @cityman2312
      @cityman2312 3 роки тому +10

      Would have ended up in a Muggle lunatic asylum at best.

  • @loisjeanwilliams
    @loisjeanwilliams 3 роки тому +70

    So, for all intents and purposes, Voldemort's father was raped by his mother. That's what a nonconsensual sexual liaison is.
    Damn.

  • @nicholashill6314
    @nicholashill6314 3 роки тому +151

    So a love potion is basically a date rape drug

    • @Sarissa131996
      @Sarissa131996 3 роки тому +26

      Makes you really think of that scene in the 6th Potter movie where those girls look at love potions in fred&george's shop..

    • @theparrot6516
      @theparrot6516 3 роки тому +18

      @@Sarissa131996 those ones aren't as strong

    • @dietdrpepper15
      @dietdrpepper15 2 роки тому +7

      It's worse, because at least date rape knocks you out, in the wizarding world you are not in control of your thoughts/obsession with a person they wouldn't want in the first place.

    • @raydafuq3570
      @raydafuq3570 Рік тому +3

      @@Sarissa131996 not only that I mean Ron also got under the spell of a love potion instead of Harry who it was planned for. Love Potions seem to be a very normal thing to do in the wizarding world - mainly used by women judging by what we are able to read and see. I'm not surprised and I think it's hypocritical af to not throw the deserved shade on that topic in Harry Potter. Maybe because it's mainly done by women and JKR is a radical feminist so she won't throw shade on that.

    • @thecajunphoenix
      @thecajunphoenix 10 місяців тому

      It's definitely not as innocuous as it seems to be.
      And not all date rape drugs are designed to knock out the victim.

  • @greglasseigne9493
    @greglasseigne9493 3 роки тому +50

    Riddle never knew his parents so their relationship with each other could not have effected his emotional development. I'd say his bitterness at having to live at the orphanage plus his abilities corrupted his young mind into something evil.

  • @ferlindifeliana8888
    @ferlindifeliana8888 3 роки тому +69

    saw this comment on ig a few days ago and i agreed : Merope's selfishness permanently rendered her own son incapable of feeling the most wonderful thing in this world-love. She took away his chance to be human and feel like one before he was even born. It's very sad. And even refused to try and live for her son who needed her. All monsters have a creator, and Merope is responsible for Lord Voldemort just as much as her son was.

    • @DinoTechTurboCharge
      @DinoTechTurboCharge 2 роки тому +2

      Regardless what she did was definitely wrong, not excusing her action what she do Tom Sr. But Meropes wasn’t in her right mind, when she did that to him.
      It not entirely Merope fault, how Tom Jr has turn out to be. Yes, she gave up on life. But that choices he made, I don’t think Merope being alive would makes any difference.
      To Tom upbringing, I obviously think she wouldn’t love. Even if she was alive, I think she would probably abandon him as well.
      A child doesn’t always need a biological mother or father to show them loves, they just needs anyone around them to show the loves and cares.

  • @jaspr1999
    @jaspr1999 3 роки тому +42

    What Merope did was unconscionable. For Riddle Sr to suddenly have an unwanted child thrust on him is no different than if the roles were reversed. Rape victims need an incredibly strong strength of will and support structure and if he did want to raise Riddle Jr he would have had to overcome that reminder of that child embodying the rape. I've seen too many children of rape live a life of constant hatred from their families, especially from their mothers.

    • @jaspr1999
      @jaspr1999 3 роки тому +8

      @Freak-Boy - If this was a perfect world, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, I've seen the incredible abuses that can be heaped on a child's head by a hateful and resentful parent as a result of rape. While I would love a happily ever after of a father welcoming and raising his son, the reality is that the Riddle family snobbery alone would make Riddle Jr an outcast in his own family. Couple that a father that would treat him worse than Petunia did Harry and Riddle Jr would have had even more hate in him earlier than if he'd just gone to the orphanage. The "right" thing is very hard to define where rape is concerned.

    • @ghostnebula8805
      @ghostnebula8805 3 роки тому

      @Freak-Boy Death

    • @100Grand4eva
      @100Grand4eva 9 місяців тому

      Yes but, Tom Riddle sr did not know he was under a love potion when he left them. He made the decision to desert them without that knowledge.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 3 роки тому +44

    *Uses Time-Turner*
    *Kills Baby Tom Riddle*

    • @dancewithme7435
      @dancewithme7435 3 роки тому +8

      Then there would be only one part 😂😂😂

    • @TheoTungsten
      @TheoTungsten 2 роки тому

      You got that from HISHE, am I right?

  • @jeremiahkrouse9827
    @jeremiahkrouse9827 3 роки тому +25

    Also I think one of the reasons Tom Riddle AKA Voldemort was the way he was apart from the Love potion was that he may have inherited some of the instability from his mother's side. since the guants apparently red kept marrying their cousins to keep a bloodlines lines
    pure. Coupled with the fact that Tom Riddle soon to be a very cold and controlled man who knew exactly what he wanted. He was snobbish and Rich and I think that may have also had an effect on voldemort's personality.

  • @Otterwriter245
    @Otterwriter245 3 роки тому +86

    A boy created with a love potion, also known as fake love.
    I would be surprised if he wasn’t evil 😂

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 роки тому +10

      Indeed, it was almost inevitable that Voldemort would turn out as messed up as he did, considering that he was born out of a fabricated love. 💔😢

    • @SquirrelASMR
      @SquirrelASMR 3 роки тому

      @Freak-Boy and many people being boring to a street thug rap!ng their mom

    • @silly_.rabbit2
      @silly_.rabbit2 3 роки тому

      @Freak-Boy what?

    • @silly_.rabbit2
      @silly_.rabbit2 3 роки тому

      @@SquirrelASMR WHAT??

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +4

      @@trinaq Voldemort doesn't understand love because no one taught him how to do so.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 3 роки тому +136

    I felt sorry for both Merope and Tom Riddle Senior in different ways. Merope, because she just wanted to be loved, and brainwashed Senior in a misguided attempt of affection, and Senior, because he didn't consent to the relationship at all, and was forced into a marriage with a woman whose love he didn't reciporate. 😢💔

    • @ngmeylan
      @ngmeylan 3 роки тому +21

      Merope didn't exactly have a role model to show her what real love was. It doesn't excuse her actions, but the bridge was already burned in her case. Half or maybe even her entire life revolved around her obsession with Tom Riddle senior, like a lot of people stuck in an abusive household will have this fantasy about someone whisking them away to a better life. Him leaving her broke this fairytale of what she expected would happen, which is why she gave up on her own life.

    • @SquirrelASMR
      @SquirrelASMR 3 роки тому +5

      I wouldve married marope

    • @theparrot6516
      @theparrot6516 3 роки тому +3

      @@SquirrelASMR ew really...

    • @theparrot6516
      @theparrot6516 3 роки тому +3

      @@SquirrelASMR she literally stole the mind and body of Tom r senior . Did u watch the video

    • @SquirrelASMR
      @SquirrelASMR 3 роки тому

      @@theparrot6516 yeah. Here eyes that point in different directions turn me on

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 3 роки тому +289

    If the genders were reversed, people would be so disgusted by marope's actions.

    • @samzagod6606
      @samzagod6606 3 роки тому +14

      Yes but then Voldemort would have been born at Riddle Manor

    • @tianamariee6287
      @tianamariee6287 3 роки тому +67

      @Squirrel ASMR I am disgusted by her actions without the gender reversal. I think u would be surprised how many people feel the same. It is hard to not be disgusted by someone who tricks another person into being with them and then subsequently getting them pregnant.

    • @mercuriology45
      @mercuriology45 3 роки тому +29

      "If the roles were reversed" EVERYONE I MEET HATES MEROPE BECAUSE OF THE LOVE POTION THING

    • @mindyschocolate
      @mindyschocolate 3 роки тому +7

      @Freak-Boy lmao, tell me Voldemort shouldn’t have been aborted. If he had, none of the woes in HP’s world would have happened.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +34

      @@mercuriology45 There are some people who think women can't rape men even though it has happened in real life. Merope defenders also think Tom Riddle Sr should have stayed with Merope after she stopped giving him the love potion and raised Tom Jr with her. No he shouldn't and rightly didn't.

  • @jassasingh6718
    @jassasingh6718 3 роки тому +51

    I wonder what Harry’s life would of been if he lived with Sirius black instead of aunt Petunia and uncle veron

    • @Eliza_woods04
      @Eliza_woods04 3 роки тому +8

      Voldermort and his followers would of killed him

    • @shanquailedmonds3363
      @shanquailedmonds3363 3 роки тому +7

      But Sirius black would’ve never went to prison for killing the 12 muggles meaning nothing in the main timeline would’ve happened

    • @Eliza_woods04
      @Eliza_woods04 3 роки тому +6

      @@shanquailedmonds3363 well not really because Harry would of been dead because he wouldnt have any protection from his mother's blood

  • @agnes6276
    @agnes6276 3 роки тому +35

    I only now realized that Merope was kind of a Yandere

    • @xxjulia0xx341
      @xxjulia0xx341 Рік тому

      I feel bad for her and Riddle family was bad and mean I think Merope didn't see the true tom riddle sr bc her mental was bad she took suicide I think if she have good mental health she the best like she never kill people whole family did it but not her

  • @akchanneltv4084
    @akchanneltv4084 3 роки тому +217

    While I feel bad for Tom’s mother, I don’t think she has the right to use a love potion on Tom Riddle Senior, so really, she is the route of it all sadly

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 роки тому +21

      Yes, I felt horrible for Merope, as Senior only left because she stopped using the love potion, thinking that he'd eventually reciporate her feelings. Needless to say, it didn't work, and he abandoned them.

    • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
      @judeannethecandorchannel2153 3 роки тому +1

      The root

    • @Stellarionas
      @Stellarionas 3 роки тому +5

      The root was her evil disgusting father.
      She just wanted what was taken from her, love. She attempted it with the worst way possible, yes, 'cause she was made feeling that way, unworthy to be loved by anyone, and so for her, that was the sole purpose of being a witch.
      Her life, for once, made just perfect sense and for one time she was free to choose a purpose, so from her perspective everything was logical.

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 3 роки тому +13

      I'm kinda curious if Marope was a man you'd make these excuses for her being a rapist?

    • @fonkysahb3352
      @fonkysahb3352 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@savagetv6460 No one would care if a male rapist was a victim of abuse lol

  • @abhinavsrivastava9909
    @abhinavsrivastava9909 3 роки тому +38

    Dumbledore: Where is Lord Voldemort?
    Harry: I'll do you one better, Who is Lord Voldemort?
    Dean: I'll do you one better, Why is Lord Voldemort?

  • @cameronadkins2310
    @cameronadkins2310 3 роки тому +35

    I hope JK Rowling releases whether or not there really was a confrontation at the Riddle Mansion soon. That’d be nice to know which is really canon.

    • @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535
      @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535 3 роки тому +12

      I picture Tom Sr with PTSD. Never able to get over the time he lost, when Merope had him captive. No one to believe his story. Never dated, married, or had kids.
      Waiting for the day for some one to show up at door claiming to be his child.
      Opening the door seeing a younger version of himself.
      The day he had been dreading all those years had finally arrived.

  • @SantaCruzJokerProductions
    @SantaCruzJokerProductions 3 роки тому +41

    All this makes Hogwarts' system of not letting boys in the girls dormitory but letting girls into the boys dormitory kind of stupid, seeing as merope is a woman who magically raped a man, and Ramona Vain tryed to magically roofie Harry and inadvertently nearly killed Ron (I wonder if she ever learned about that, definitely wasn't punished for it)
    Meanwhile the men in Harry Potter seem to be pretty good on the whole consent thing

    • @cityman2312
      @cityman2312 3 роки тому +10

      Another instance of JKR not thinking anything through, and the editors not doing their job.

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 3 роки тому +8

      @@cityman2312 well she is pretty radical in her feminist beliefs so it makes sense to her

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +2

      @@cityman2312 JKR has a lot of trouble comprehending that women can be abusers too.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому

      @@savagetv6460 She isn't really feminist, in fact, JKR is the living embodiment of internalized misogyny(ex. Hermione and Ginny reek the "I'm not like the other girls" mentality). Is it any wonder that she bought into the TERF ideology?

    • @fonkysahb3352
      @fonkysahb3352 2 роки тому

      She did write a rapist (Merope) as someone we should sympathise with. I doubt she even considered using a love potion to be rapey.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 3 роки тому +10

    3:44 Dumbledore theorised that on a warm day when Tom Riddle Sr was riding on his horse he was thirsty and Merope lied that she had some water which was obviously love potion that he then drank.

  • @paschameleon
    @paschameleon 3 роки тому +38

    I wonder, what if Tom was adopted by a loving family as a baby? Would he still follow the same path and end up being evil? Would he understand love and have a conscious? What would the outcome be?

    • @preciousthing101
      @preciousthing101 3 роки тому +7

      I truly truly believe his story would have been different. He would have know what love is.

    • @paschameleon
      @paschameleon 3 роки тому +5

      @@preciousthing101 definitely true

    • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
      @judeannethecandorchannel2153 3 роки тому +8

      Impossible to say. In a rational world world by psychology he would probably have been okay. But this is a magical world where magical causes have magical effects.

    • @marykandis959
      @marykandis959 3 роки тому +8

      I mean.. some people are just born evil. Not even the most loving families can help them

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +4

      @@marykandis959 Not really. In fact, that is a very ableistic way of thought.

  • @katherinewinters5674
    @katherinewinters5674 3 роки тому +58

    Voldemort had the ability to become a good person, he chose not to. Leta Lestrange was conceived the same way and she spent her entire life trying to be better

    • @melissaholt2099
      @melissaholt2099 3 роки тому +6

      Leta Lestrange was a bit different. Her mother loved Voltomort. And she willing let him impregnate her. It wasn't rape. So Leta was wanted by both parents. I believe just that small difference is enough to allow for a different outcome

    • @katherinewinters5674
      @katherinewinters5674 3 роки тому +18

      @@melissaholt2099 I was speaking about Leta Lestrange from the Crimes of Grindlewald. You are speaking of Bellatrix Lestrange...and from The Cursed child which most do not consider canon

    • @melissaholt2099
      @melissaholt2099 3 роки тому +4

      @@katherinewinters5674 you are correct. I had them confused. Rape is bad no matter what. Maybe the potion used on Tom senior added an extra layer of evil beyond normal rape. Which is the angle I believe is being presented here. That Voltomort was just born to be evil

    • @dreamsteddybearsmaster
      @dreamsteddybearsmaster 2 роки тому

      Yeah poor Leta's Mum was assaulted with Imperio and raped while she already had a husband and son whom she adored and whom adored her. The story of the mother and daughter are tragic

    • @lavinialadlass9432
      @lavinialadlass9432 2 роки тому +1

      @@melissaholt2099 I always thought it might’ve been the orphanage. We only get a brief glimpse of it in the books but the feeling I got from hearing about it was that it had adults. But not therapist. As in Voldemort just never really understood what was right and wrong and always believe that what he thought was right was right. he didn’t know a thing about his parents until he was 16 after all. Either that or the adults might’ve been too scared to do anything about it. I’m not rejecting the theory about love. I’m just saying I don’t think that was the only thing that made him what he was.

  • @Kat31017
    @Kat31017 3 роки тому +13

    He was a very bright kid, he could of turned out to be a great 'good' wizard

  • @midnightunicorn3898
    @midnightunicorn3898 3 роки тому +3

    This is the earliest I’ve been and I’m proud. This video was amazing, keep up the great work

  • @Izzy_Gyrl
    @Izzy_Gyrl 3 роки тому +5

    I REALLY REALLY loved this video! Fantastic work! You're doing amazing videos! Thank you for all that you do! It honestly just got me thinking about how a lot of time in the HP world muggles are viewed as weak or having no power. But here Toms father though muggle, was rich and handsome and had power whereas his mother being a pureblood was unattractive and had none. If anything Toms Father had a power over his mother (that is until she...ya know drugged him)
    Also makes you realize that his hate for his father was quite unjust in the fact that his FATHER WAS THE VICTIM....oof. But he still hated him for his own personal reasons.
    I also can't wait to see the animation of the scene between Tom and his grandparents and father! EXCITING! Once again GREAT VIDEO!

  • @logancole7259
    @logancole7259 3 роки тому +13

    This guy is so underrated

  • @theresaiwright7085
    @theresaiwright7085 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for another great video. Just make sure you take a break once in awhile.

  • @jldmistery6840
    @jldmistery6840 3 роки тому +3

    That's another great video! Next November/December I'll be a Harry Potter fan for 20 years and Tom Riddle is definetely one of my most favorite characters from the wizarding world. I am very much enjoying your video's about him. And thinking about all the theories about him. Some think it is weird but I have always felt sorry for young Tom Riddle. The fact that he was not wanted from the beginning is very tragic. And there are things about him that are relatable. He preferred to be on his own, he was ambitious , he feared death. Those are things I see in myself as well.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +1

      Tom Riddle is a dark mirror of Harry Potter, with most of his flaws being exaggerated versions of Harry's own:
      -Both are half-bloods who came from miserable places and discovered the magic world at a tender age, seeing Hogwarts as their home. Both also became famed figures during their lifetimes and became leaders during the Wizarding Wars. Both also attracted the attention of pureblood witches and can be impulsive and temperamental. Hell, both also have the same core in their wands.
      -Tom saw the Wizarding World as a means to achieve power, wholeheartedly embracing his fame and when he caught wind about being a wizard, he embraced it fully as he already believed himself special. He surrounded himself with puppets and hyenas and resented his origins as a half-blood, disrespecting his mother's sacrifice and killing his father. He was also afraid of dying and treated Bellatrix with apathy, seeing her as a useful pet to keep around.
      -Harry saw the Wizarding World as a way to fit in, rejecting his fame and when he caught wind about being a wizard, he couldn't believe it. He surrounded himself with friends and companions and embraced his half-blood status, looking up to his father despite his flaws and honoring his mother's sacrifice. He embraced Death as an old friend and genuinely loves Ginny.
      -Overall, Tom Riddle is a dark parallel to what Harry could have become if he was more ambitious and had no sense of care or responsibilities towards others, but also allowed his past traumas and bitterness towards the world morph into brutal hatred.

  • @tianamariee6287
    @tianamariee6287 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for continuing to give us awesome Harry Potter content.

  • @spotsthejaguar54
    @spotsthejaguar54 3 роки тому +22

    Wait so Harry Potter theory Harry Potter folklore and move flame all know each other? And I’m subscribed to all? And I didn’t get to them all from one channel? Ok cool

  • @tapuchris3329
    @tapuchris3329 3 роки тому +9

    Dumbledore: Could you be possibly feeling sorry for Lord Voldemort?

    • @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535
      @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535 3 роки тому +1

      Harry told Goose most he felt sorry for him. Order of Phoenix. I think with the abuse and the feelings of not being loved by Dursleys. Harry had the ability to see Voldemort and Snape having sad lonely lives. Harry was able to love inspire of his childhood, they weren't.

    • @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535
      @pauliewogmastercertifiedli535 3 роки тому +1

      Changed Voldemort to Goose most! That's a first.

    • @tapuchris3329
      @tapuchris3329 3 роки тому

      @@pauliewogmastercertifiedli535 WOW

    • @tapuchris3329
      @tapuchris3329 3 роки тому

      @@pauliewogmastercertifiedli535 oh ok

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 3 роки тому +27

    What could have happened if Voldemort's mother was still alive and his father didn't walk out on him before he was born?

    • @isobelduncan
      @isobelduncan 3 роки тому +8

      Rowling actually stated somewhere that if Voldemort had been raised with a somewhat normal family he would've turned out to be a much more decent person.

    • @isobelduncan
      @isobelduncan 3 роки тому +4

      @Guto Somewhat like Grindelwald, maybe.

    • @Anastasia-Black_193
      @Anastasia-Black_193 Рік тому

      Voldemort wasn't born evil 🙄

  • @GeesSpot
    @GeesSpot 3 роки тому +13

    I've always felt oddly sorry for Tom. He wasn't meant to be born, he wasn't natural, he was never shown how to love or how to be loved, he was never wanted.
    No wonder he lashed out as a child. I specifically say Tom and not Voldemort because as Tom grew older at Hogwarts, he was given the opportunity to experience love, acceptance and friendship at school but instead of inviting the change, he rebuked it and built him to where he ended up.
    Everything Merope did was just cruel to Tom Sr and Jr.
    And I feel the movie represents this in order of the Phoenix when Voldemort possessed Harry "You'll never know love, or friendship and I feel sorry for you"

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 3 роки тому +3

      And Harry knows it: He knows that Tom and himself are very similar: Half-bloods who came from miserable places and discovered the magical world at an early age and both saw Hogwarts as their home.

    • @geoffwilliams4478
      @geoffwilliams4478 2 роки тому

      @@jorgebersabe293 Harry was a pure blood. His mother was the muggle born witch

  • @maryjoyspohrer9011
    @maryjoyspohrer9011 3 роки тому +1

    That was absolutely phenomenal work on this video, and spot on all around.

  • @TheDaniels569
    @TheDaniels569 3 роки тому +27

    I always found it weird that JK decided to create magical sex crimes in the form of love potions and the way she addressed these was not what she as an author was built for.
    I also think that the notion of a child born of non consensual liaisons must turn out evil is not just a bad one, but a dangerous one to spread. For my money, Tom made a series of choices throughout his life and he consistently chose to be evil, murdering and torturing of his own volition.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +5

      Tom doesn't understand love because nobody taught him how to do so. Tom grew up unloved, neglected and unwanted.

  • @susanpotenzano1328
    @susanpotenzano1328 3 роки тому +6

    Selfishness runs abound in these stories. We could put Voldy, Merope, and Snape in a support group for emotionally stunted individuals

    • @princesaruu6150
      @princesaruu6150 2 роки тому +7

      Snape... well he loved Lily but he wasnt a rapist and more than selfish he felt guilty for Lily s death. For me the more selfish were Voldemort ,Merope, Marvolo, Fudge, Rita Sketter.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +1

      @@princesaruu6150 Snape was more obsessed with Lily than in love.

  • @christina1wilson
    @christina1wilson 3 роки тому +4

    I do not remember ever reading that Tom Sr knew that Merope was pregnant. Dumbledore just surmises that Merope stopped giving the love potion--and when it wore off Senior left. But even Dumbledore doesn't make a "guess" about Senior knowing.

  • @liezlsmal9151
    @liezlsmal9151 3 роки тому +3

    Reading what Professor Dumbledore and Harry experienced by means of Professor Dumbledore's Pensieve, I do believe that there are a few genetic traits displayed by Marvolo, Morfin and Merope Gaunt that Voldemort inherited. Violence, prejudice against half-blood or muggle born wizards, parseltongue, no particular "healthy" genes as a result of generational inbreeding and then the lack of being cosseted in love and gently taught what the consequences would be when you do something evil was all there. Voldemort was a lone wolf from a young age. He did not just scare other orphans because he could do supernatural things. He used his abilities to scare, manipulate, control and physically harm the other children which all boils down to the one thing that the adult Voldemort was infamous for: An absolute dying hunger and thirst for Power.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 2 роки тому +1

      And the real worst part? Tom is essentially what Harry could have become if he was more ambitious and had no sense of care or responsibility towards others, but also if he allowed his bitterness towards the world morph into brutal hatred.

  • @nostalgianetwork1225
    @nostalgianetwork1225 3 роки тому +6

    I would like to see this turned into a movie 🍿

  • @Iannael
    @Iannael 3 роки тому

    Wow, I think this my best video of your channel so far! I was having goosebump as I was listening along. Thank You for this!

  • @snowysobsessed
    @snowysobsessed 3 роки тому +1

    Wow i was waiting for a new video ver eagerly😀😀😀. Thanks for explaining this theory 😊

  • @dietdrpepper15
    @dietdrpepper15 2 роки тому +3

    I would LOVE to read the scene for when Tom met his dad and grandparents. Whew that is a scene we need!

    • @firxanza5172
      @firxanza5172 2 роки тому +1

      Voldemort : Hello, father, allow me to introduce myself, I am Tom Marvolo Riddle, son of yourself and that Gaunt freak woman you were just talking about!
      Tom Senior's dad : Tom?!
      Tom Senior : He is lying! She tricked me! She was crazy from the start! I never fathered a child of any kind with her!
      Tom Senior's mom : But he looks so much like you!
      Voldemort : Enough of this! Since you don't want to acknowlege my existence, then I refuse to recognize you as my father! From now on, I will no longer bear the name of Tom Riddle! I shall be Lord Voldemort! Avada Kedavra!
      and then, after killing his muggle relatives, Voldemort went back to Morfin to return the stolen wand and modify Morfin's memory in addition to stealing Marvolo's ring to make it a horcrux, not knowing the ring was also the Resurrection Stone in disguise
      he returned to Hogwarts, with a clear conscience, due to having expertly covered up his crimes
      later on, when he started creating the Death Eaters, he would tell them that his name was Marvolo Gaunt, and he descends from the daughter's line of the Gaunt family and had a grandfather whom he was named after

    • @lavinialadlass9432
      @lavinialadlass9432 2 роки тому

      the meeting would’ve ended very green.

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 3 роки тому +11

    The last time I was this early, Voldemort still answered to the name "Tom Riddle"!

  • @jasmidnurmi9857
    @jasmidnurmi9857 3 роки тому +3

    I agree with you. What I don't get is how didn't Merope try for Tom Jr's sake. There she had a little defenseless creature that could have loved her (for all she knew). Not that it would have made much difference.

  • @ryanconners3048
    @ryanconners3048 3 роки тому +15

    I've heard merope pronounced in like 8 different ways lol

    • @Neesi392
      @Neesi392 3 роки тому +3

      I pronounce it like "muh" "rope" lol

  • @xana625
    @xana625 2 роки тому

    I never got to read the Harry Potter books and saw only 4 of the movies, but I've been binge watching the videos on this channel and they're so informative and entertaining. I had to subscribe. Keep up the good work.

  • @noahp67890
    @noahp67890 3 роки тому +3

    hey Dean, great video mate. always love your stuff. is Riddle: An Animated Story still somewhere on the horizon? hope you’re doing well & staying healthy

  • @cityman2312
    @cityman2312 3 роки тому +3

    Dumbledore said it could have been a love potion or the Imperius Curse. I don't know if JKR's interviews count as canon, since she changes her mind every time someone asks a question. The Imperius Curse was revealed to be very easy to cast on the first attempt (Harry could do it with no training in Deathly Hallows). I suppose Merope could point a wand and say "Imperio."

    • @cityman2312
      @cityman2312 2 роки тому +2

      @@श्रीजनरिजाल Dumbledore doesn't know everything. JKR should, but she imagines scenes in Deathly Hallows that weren't there, and always changes her mind about events post series.

  • @silly54321
    @silly54321 3 роки тому +2

    This is also what happened with Umbridge with her parents not loving each other either, birds of a feather

  • @loisjeanwilliams
    @loisjeanwilliams 3 роки тому +5

    But, even Tom Riddle, Jr., aka Lord Voldemort, STILL had a choice between good and evil, and he chose the latter not the former.

    • @DinoTechTurboCharge
      @DinoTechTurboCharge 2 роки тому +1

      I do agree.
      Just because he was made and cause by a love potion, what does it mean that’s the reason why he became evil. What a choice he made, not because magic cause it.

  • @Nina-cd6uw
    @Nina-cd6uw 3 роки тому +2

    I don't see reason to believe that the circumstances of his parents are THE reason for his violent tendencies and lack of empathy - he never latched on to anyone who loved him to make up for the lost love, even though he could have latched on to Dumbledore as a mentor who got him out of the orphanage or someone like Bellatrix, who loved and violently adored him.
    I believe his circumstances formed him, but we see in the Gaunt family a lack of respect for Merope, enormous entitlement, pride, cruelty, narcissistic tendencies and violence/demeaning behavior and his father, Tom Riddle, was said to be unpleasant, arrogant and self-centered as well.
    Some people just are violent and lack empathy, it's in their genes - and socialization can make it worse, but not reverse it.

  • @koala678
    @koala678 3 роки тому +1

    Since the beging of covid im stuck waching you and morgan (movieflame)
    I don't care what the video is as long as it is by you or him

  • @everwildart3563
    @everwildart3563 3 роки тому +2

    Though he may can't feel love, I do believe he can feel sympathy. But he choose not to. He chooses to be evil. He chooses not to be a better person. He chooses to torture others for his own pleasure. Yeah, his childhood sucks but so does for other people(Harry for example) . He was a talented and popular student. I bet many people treat him well because of that. But that's not enough. He wanted more. I wonder if Dumbledore had noticed these changes within him and if he had tried to guide him to be better, would he still become evil? Whatever it is, his story is sad because of his parents mistakes, other people faced the consequences.

  • @InhabitantOfOddworld
    @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 місяці тому

    Reading the HBP chapter about Ogden's memory of the Gaunts gave me some real Lovecraft vibes. I don't know if anyone else had the same feeling.
    The way they're physically described, Marvolo and Marope being clearly deformed; Morfin being reasonably insane, and the delapidated house they live in; not to mention the way Tom Jnr was conceived through magical and inauthentic means.
    All of it struck me as similar in tone to Lovecraft's 'The Dunwich Horror'

  • @jocathyn
    @jocathyn 3 роки тому +4

    I don't think he had any conversation whatsoever with his father and grandparents... I think he was so enraged that he just went in and killed them

  • @beatrixamerlinck5818
    @beatrixamerlinck5818 3 роки тому +3

    I mean I get it put it is not a rule, because I've known people that were product of a rape, and they are good and lovley people.
    Also psycopatics (a sickness in the brain that unables you to love or feel) are tretable, and they can eventually learn and feel for others.
    Same with Tom. Everyone blaims his parents, but what about the care takers? Had they shown a little love to Tom, it could have had a different impact. I think that a lesson for everyone here is to show kindness and love regardless, because you don't know whenever you may be meeting a Tom, and you may be an essential part for twisting the person in another direction.

  • @Kelsey-xr8fg
    @Kelsey-xr8fg 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for bringing awareness to the horrible actions against Tom Riddle Sr., I feel like they are overlooked because he is a man and Merope is a woman, which is entirely unfair and (tbh) quite disgusting.

    • @xxjulia0xx341
      @xxjulia0xx341 Рік тому

      I feel bad for her and Riddle family was bad and mean I think Merope didn't see the true tom riddle sr bc her mental was bad she took suicide I think if she have good mental health she the best like she never kill people whole family did it but not her

  • @ldsgermanshepherdboy9272
    @ldsgermanshepherdboy9272 3 роки тому +3

    Like the content, but I do believe differently than what you said in regards to magic, and magical blood. I believe both magical witches/wizards and normal muggals are not much different from each other at all. I believe everyone has a bit of "magic" in them when they fall in love, write poetry, sing, dance or be creative in any sort of way. I just believe it is channeled differently from others. For instance, muggle borns, and squibs, both have magical properties, but channel it in differing ways.

  • @wastedyouth6416
    @wastedyouth6416 3 роки тому +5

    He was cursed from the start

  • @SergioBecerraII
    @SergioBecerraII 3 роки тому +2

    I still want to know how Tom Riddle found the location of the Chamber of Secrets when he was at school.

  • @kathynicklas9845
    @kathynicklas9845 3 роки тому +6

    Just curious, how much difference is there between a love potion and the imperius curse? Both strip you of your will. But one is ok and the other is unforgivable.

  • @crystalreyna1440
    @crystalreyna1440 3 роки тому

    Love the new video. And I'm really looking forward to your animated fanfic.

  • @SteveCrafts2k
    @SteveCrafts2k 3 роки тому +2

    That's like Dario's wife marrying him, and then having Dio Brando.
    Yes, I know I'm referencing JoJo, because that's exactly what this is.

    • @jorgebersabe293
      @jorgebersabe293 3 роки тому

      Tom Riddle and Dio Brando are extremely similar if you think about it:
      -Both came from miserable homes.
      -Both serve as the evil counterpart to the protagonists(Tom is this to Harry and Dio is this to Jonathan).
      -Both threw their humanities away for more power.
      -Both are charismatic, soft-spoken, sadistic and arrogant jerkasses who look down on those they deem as inferior.
      -Both are ruthless, cunning and willing to do anything to obtain what they desire.

  • @kellabdjfoo
    @kellabdjfoo 2 роки тому +2

    I hate how not a lot of people talk more about Merope Gaunt literally r@ping Tom Riddle Sr under the love potion. If it were the other way around, people would have definitely talked about it more.

  • @supersunpass3000
    @supersunpass3000 3 роки тому

    Always enjoy your content man keep it commin!!

  • @mattthesilent777RED
    @mattthesilent777RED 3 роки тому +1

    My idea, Merope goes to the manor, askes them for a kitchen job and spikes Tom with the potion.

  • @justineck5664
    @justineck5664 3 роки тому +1

    The strangest thing I found is that merope was one of the Pleiades, she had 9 daughters who became the Aenids, one of whom she named merope. That Merope then gave birth to the woman who would later marry the king of Crete and have a daughter named merope.

  • @lolarobinson940
    @lolarobinson940 3 роки тому +7

    Was anyone else actually genuinely terrified the first time he came on screen 😅
    Coss I defo was 😆

    • @emiliamitura8934
      @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому +5

      Yea same I was 3 and started crying

    • @tianamariee6287
      @tianamariee6287 3 роки тому +4

      Ur definitely not alone lol

    • @emiliamitura8934
      @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому +5

      @@tianamariee6287 lol

    • @tianamariee6287
      @tianamariee6287 3 роки тому +4

      @@emiliamitura8934 awww my daughter was really young and she actually had nightmares about Moldy Voldy, I felt so bad for allowing her to watch it🤦

    • @emiliamitura8934
      @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому +4

      @@tianamariee6287 I had a nightmare and i went to my mum and i said no nose man is coming for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @juliojuarez4033
    @juliojuarez4033 3 роки тому +1

    A fanfilm of voldemorts parents should be made

  • @arafhamid1785
    @arafhamid1785 Рік тому +1

    That’s why I will always feel bad for Voldemort it’s like he was doomed to fail from day 1

  • @slipstreamxr3763
    @slipstreamxr3763 Рік тому

    Merope Gaunt kind of reminds me of Mayella Ewell from "To Kill a Mockingbird."

  • @FanofScandal
    @FanofScandal Рік тому

    its sounds like a really good and genuinely theory well done.

  • @MrBowser909
    @MrBowser909 3 роки тому

    Can't wait for Riddle. Keep up the great work

  • @bwy553
    @bwy553 3 роки тому +1

    No I agree with you because in the magical world, intent and action always seem to impart qualities on places, people, and things. Kinda like how she got her wish that he would look just like his father, but he ended up just as ugly as her family anyway.

  • @olivegreenpants7153
    @olivegreenpants7153 3 роки тому +9

    I dont think Tom's parental situation had anything to do with it. He could have been loved and wanted by both parents and still turn out like he did.

  • @juliie007
    @juliie007 3 місяці тому

    David Yates biggest crime in making the Harry Potter movies was omitting the Voldermont’s background story of his maternal family the Gaunts and the paternal family the Riddles not to mention the added insult of cutting out Dumbledore’s funeral all together. The Families added much needed context explaining why the boy Tom jr. was ultimately doomed to become the dark wizard Voldermont. To this very day, the Half Blood Prince which was supposed to be one of the best films is my least favorite and not surprised when the Fantastic Beasts series failed to muster the same enthusiasm like the HP movies.

  • @BladefireA
    @BladefireA 3 роки тому

    I'm so interested to hear about this magical universe you mentioned

  • @juliemadani7835
    @juliemadani7835 3 роки тому

    AMAZING VIDEO DEAN ❤️❤️❤️

  • @jettarosewater6789
    @jettarosewater6789 3 роки тому

    Awesome work Dean

  • @renfairfanakatony774
    @renfairfanakatony774 3 роки тому +1

    I like it actually, it's a really good theory and makes sense.

  • @emiliamitura8934
    @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому +13

    What if everyone I the order off the Phoenix knew that Peter was the secret keeper

    • @mahisinghvi08
      @mahisinghvi08 3 роки тому +1

      Then Sirius won’t get blamed and Peter would get sent to Azkaban

    • @emiliamitura8934
      @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому

      @@mahisinghvi08 wouldn't he still run away into hiding after the incident at godrics hollow

    • @mahisinghvi08
      @mahisinghvi08 3 роки тому

      @@emiliamitura8934 no because everyone would know tht Peter was the secret keeper so Peter gave the location away not Sirius
      Because only Sirius James and lily new tht Sirius was not the secret keeper everyone thought Sirius did those crimes

    • @emiliamitura8934
      @emiliamitura8934 3 роки тому

      @@mahisinghvi08 yea but that's why he would go into hiding

    • @mahisinghvi08
      @mahisinghvi08 3 роки тому

      @@emiliamitura8934 why would he go into hiding if hes prooved innocent he is not wanted anymore he went into hiding because he was a wanted man

  • @masterjolteryukai3919
    @masterjolteryukai3919 11 місяців тому

    There is so many what ifs. If Merope survived and lived for her son. If Riddle Snr came back for him at the orphanage after Merope's death. Had he been adopted by loving family. But yeah, either way. It does not do dwell in dreams, or the past or what could have been.

  • @jaredquinney204
    @jaredquinney204 3 роки тому +1

    I was always curious about this story

  • @steffie_619
    @steffie_619 3 роки тому

    Please please please do a video on the Magical Universe and what it means? I think you have a good point and I agree with you on where magic and prophecies come from. As always thank you for all your hard work. I love all your Harry Potter lore videos ❤

  • @AlecTheLocalIdiot
    @AlecTheLocalIdiot 3 роки тому +4

    I got here before the notification came through

  • @MsKatieMD
    @MsKatieMD 3 роки тому

    Thanks for another great video! I never even took the consent part into account even though she did imprison him.

  • @alyssaellis9141
    @alyssaellis9141 3 роки тому +3

    Whats the difference between tom/voldemolt and credence and leta? Didn't their father force/control their mothers?

  • @gracehendren6611
    @gracehendren6611 3 роки тому +4

    Hello!! Thank you soo much for this video :P Helped sooo much to understand. literally took notes the whole time lol.

  • @100Grand4eva
    @100Grand4eva 9 місяців тому

    Tom Riddle Sr never knew he was under a love potion. He deserted them on his own accord.

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 3 роки тому +1

    CANT WAIT FOR THAT ANIMATION! 😍

  • @inayahanu7469
    @inayahanu7469 3 роки тому +3

    This video really put things into perspective as I’d never seen the love potion from that angle. So fascinating!

  • @cracklebone
    @cracklebone 3 роки тому +2

    Love the content

  • @WaggaDaBagga
    @WaggaDaBagga Рік тому +1

    Actually, one does not automatically become evil without feelings just because he came into the world without the support of his father and love. According to the holy text of the Bible: One can have the heart filled with evil if one's own pride enters the head and triggers the feeling of hatred that lasts forever. Without proper care from the family, a child can become naughty and grow up to be a violent person, but no evil! But in this case, Tom Riddle Marvolo was accepted as a student at the Academy of Witchcraft and Wizardry at Hogwarts Castle School as a very young man. Got a house and wand. And learned spells. He could talk to snakes, and understand and hear them. He nailed worm tongue very well. He began to be intrigued in using the three forbidden curses and little by little, he rose as the dark lord Prince Voldemort. And the Death Eater clan was created. The symbol is a tattoo of a skull with a snake. As the years passed, he gained his own army of loyal wizards who served him and became members of the Death Eater clan. Known members: Lestrange Belltrix, Mr and Mrs Malfoy. (Lucius and Narcissa). And his best friend and assistant was Petter Pittelpytt. His pet was a large snake, this was also one of the death talismans (Hocruxes).

  • @jungwons
    @jungwons 3 роки тому

    two voldemort videos within 24 hours YAYTYYY

  • @jordanrobinson9064
    @jordanrobinson9064 7 місяців тому

    How ironic that Merope’s actions ultimately spelled the end for her son.

  • @emmacan1
    @emmacan1 3 роки тому +8

    I don't know why I feel like you're sugesting that a child borned out of two parents who don't love eachother had the slightlest chance to become evil because that has nothing to do with the fact that Voldemort was evil. I just think it's not relevant to the story 🤔 I love your content soooo much 🤗 hope you stay safe

  • @amethystb12345
    @amethystb12345 Рік тому

    This is why I have always felt Tom Jr is very misunderstood