Cockpit Overview, Hardware Connections, Winwing MIP SimAppPro Configuration, DCS MIP FA-18C Sync
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In this video I show quick overview of my cockpit layout. My hardware (WW MIP) connections. What the latest update for Winwings SimAppPro brings to the table and how I boot my system to get the least amount of issues when playing DCS. I hope this will clarify some issues that some people may be having. My systems seems to work almost glitch free and Winwing is constantly updating and fixing issues we find. I will explain some of that in a separate video. I hope you all don't mind the simple one take video. Thanks for watching. Also I'm always willing to look at comments and answer questions if I can.
My Cockpit Link:
(This one needed modification to fit my Virpil pedals because of width)
www.bhphotovid...
Cockpit recommendation alternative Link:
(The seat is different but will work out of the box for any rudder pedals )
www.bhphotovid...
Winwing TOP GUN MIP FA-18C Panel Link:
wwsimstore.com...
After watching your earlier videos I treated myself to the top gun mip for my 70th birthday it arrived 6 days later and i am very happy with it I had no problems setting it up i now just need to setup all my modules .
Keep up the good work and thanks.
This is so wholesome, I hope that you enjoy your game
I’m in the same boat! Good luck to you and have fun!
As I recently purchased the MIP Top Gun and PTO2 along with Throttle and Joystick from WinWing. Your video is spot on and informative. My problem in view of so little instruction setting up the connections. That was the only item I would have appreciated information on. Also I realized how touchy SimAppPro is proving to be. I am thankful there are ressources such as you around. Again Thank You. Only in Canada😮 hey.
You have to put the chair on a flight sim rams so you get the Felling and movement of flight. Brilliant set up.
Great work, and thanks to your video I took the plunge.
Your guide saved me countless hours prior because I was able to reconfigure my Monstertech Chair, and center stick, along with my TPR pedals to accommodate the setup.
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Excellent!!!
Excellent video, just what I needed to kick off the next step to my rig. Big thank you.
Very welcome!
Awesome video bud.....I can't wait to get my Top Gun MiP set up done! Quality of the video was excellent, and thank you for the walk-through sir!!!
Nice : )
FYI, moving from 1 32 inch display to 3 32 inch displays was a game changer... lol.
Seriously, big change as it lets you set scaling more appropriate to scale.
3 display example:
ua-cam.com/video/jWw4c9WKutA/v-deo.html
But my cockpit ain't as nice as yours.... yet ; )
O7 and God bless
I may try that some day...
only 32? they actualy sell bigger LOL year 2023
@@JarppaGuru Lol, yea, been thinking about 42... but the 3 32's and a 27 are getting me the info I want atm. Wish I was flying more, HF : )
Great Video - just about to order the ICE-MAN set up - will keep hold of this video! thanks
Glad it was helpful!
This was a great video nice and clear step by step. I shall be purchasing the mip topgun and your video is exactly what is needed for the setup again thank you. Although I am certain I shall be referring to this video again especially when setting it up in DCS. I believe if you where to provide us with a video specifically dealing with the DCS programming that would be great. Cheers.
There are lots of videos out there that help with DCS bindings, but if you decide you would like me to make one specific to the way I set up my MIP bindings for myself, I'll be happy to accommodate. Please re-post another comment or reply to this feed and let me know. Thanks for your interest!!
Tremendous job!!!! Thankyou purchasing immediately
Thank you so much, very helpful video!
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and it is not only this one, I've seen several setups like that, bugs me why
do you possibly know anything on why my display id's won't show up on my displays?
Good stuff man!
I can't get the MFD1-C get selected. Does anyone know how to get it selected. I am able to select right and left but when I select the middle nothing happens. It just displays it as a 50 button system.
Thank you!
Nice, can you share the link of your powered usb hub?
Nice setup do far. Looking good 😀
Thanks 👍
So you need 7 USB ports just for the MIP? And then another 3 or four for the HOTAS and pedals? I have the WW Orion 2 HOTAS already, which I love. And then Saitek rudder pedals, which I absolutely hate. I am looking at getting the WW MIP very soon, and also upgrading to a set of Virpil or MFG rudder pedals.
Yes, 7 usb ports for the MIP, 2 for the HOTAS, 1 for my headset, 1 for my TrackIR, 1 for my Keyboard and mouse. I plug my pedals into the back of my PC since the Virpil pedals draw more power. It works more efficient that way. Hope this helps...
Sweet setup Bro, is that raised desk a black and decker workmate by any chance?
What screens do you use for the MFDs?
I'm using "Next Level Racing" cockpit with a painted piece of wood mounted on the top. The screens are what came with the Winwing MIP setup...
Dude. The mfd selection option was clutch. I only have one and could not figure out how to assign to left instead if center. Turns iut with one, center may be where it us at. Thanks
Just for clarification, do you have to this for every boot up? Don't the settings save so that you dont have to set it up for everytime you reboot the computer?
And have you tried the setup in any other games than DCS? MFS or War thunder as for example?
Great video anyhow, thanks!
Yes, I do this every time... I would guess because I have a second 40" 4K monitor (across the room) that I use as a primary display when not using DCS (All HOTAS peripherals are off when running one monitor separate). The reason is, I use this computer for my work as well. So when I convert to DCS from my work system, I unplug my 4k from across the room, connect the DCS 4k HDMI then power up all the HOTAS peripherals. That is my sequence. I must say though, when I leave the DCS setup on and configured, then shut down and reboot with my HOTAS and DCS 4k on (prior to boot), everything is still configured properly. I did the video the way I did it simply to show the configuration and how easy it is to configure the software etc... I hope this clarifies? Sorry I'm so late to reply...
Thanks for putting this together! So you don't need to change the monitor field in DCS options in order to get the DDI's to display out to your MFD's?
All configuration is done in the SimAppPro software. You need to select which aircraft you will be flying in SimAppPro prior to launching DCS. The DDI's will display appropriately in that aircraft only in DCS during that session. If you want to fly a different aircraft (and display DDI's correctly) it is recommended you'll need to exit DCS, reconfigure the new aircraft in SimAppPro, then relaunch DCS. FYI... I will say though, I have played DCS starting with FA-18C configured then launching an F-16C in the same session and the DDI's displayed correctly in the F-16C...
@@videoproducer1188 Awesome, thanks very much!
Very nice setup! I've heard about the shake kit for the stick but I'm not entirely too sure what it's supposed to similate? I have been able to find any videos that talk too much about it.
Do it just vibrate when the plane is buffeting or when ever you shoot weapons?
Thanks!
The shake kit in the Orion 2 F-16EX shakes when you are taxiing, when your gear raises and lowers, Launching weapons and over stressing the aircraft. I like it because its just enough to feel the gear raising. But the shake kit doesn't just add shake, it adds 2 more 5 point HAT buttons. Which is way more valuable than the shake itself.
Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to explain how to setup a simpit! I had no idea how to connect stuff at all. But your UFC is for the F-18. I fly the F-16. Is there a panel with 2 MFD's and an ICP for the F-16? I could not find this on the Winwing site. Or can you also use your panels and HOTAS for the Viper? Thank you so much for the help.
I used the UFC for all aircraft in DCS that I want to bind, but Winwing has released an ICP (which I bought) and now I use both for switching between the FA-18C and the F-16C. The ICP is super awesome and attaches to the MIP in 5 minuets. It use one USB cable. I may create a new video to show the new system, because they have made lots of changes since I created this video.
@@videoproducer1188 Great! Thanks for the reply
I saw similar setups over the last 7 years but each time I have same question. These days though need to make a remark: if you do not have VR. So monitor in front I guess is main way to play. But question each time I have I see that in these cockpit setups people always place monitor far forward and sometimes it is not even that big. Did you consider moving monitor closer? Maybe taking new curve one and fix it at the moving gimballed hand so you could adjust it on the fly? I think I don't understand something because I see that in many cockpit setups like that, everything is perfect until I see tiny monitor in front :D
I'm using a 40" monitor and have 2 more to complete a 120" setup. But it takes up a lot of room. I play with the one monitor most of the time time and I'm super happy with it. It's set at the perfect distance for me because it feels like the same size as the cockpit. I don't think a smaller monitor would work for me and I have thought about a larger curved version. But at this point I'm sure sure it would benefit me in any way. I'm more into having all the physical buttons to manage the aircraft systems. That is most important to me since my graphics don't seems to hinder me at this point in time. I may dabble into VR down the road.
USB bandwidth is shared over a hub, for this reason, your pedals might not be able to play nicely, you're asking too much bandwidth from one source
(It also could be you're asking to much power, check the rating of the devices and the Wattage the hub is able to deliver)
For this reason I got my Sim gear distributed over 3 hubs in 3 different ports in the PC IO panel
(My VR headset gets a solitary connection to the PC's fastest port)
Do you have dimensions of how tall by how much length the set up is. I have limited space and i wanna know if i can set it up with everything else i have. I would really appreciate it
Congrats. I'm your 1000th view on this video :D
Great video! Thanks
You're welcome!
Hello, I have a question, I have 2 monitors and most of the time I watch UA-cam videos while playing DCS. And recently I bought the Topgun MIP and did all the settings for it, but now every time I start the game the monitor on the right side just turns off. Do you have a solution for this?
I use one screen but I watch UA-cam videos as well. If you open your browser window and then DCS you can easily swap between DCS and UA-cam by using the keyboard shortcut on Windows 10 . But you should still be able to use your second screen if you use "Displaylink Manager" to assign your second screen as a separate display. I hope this helps!
question: how many cables does your MIP have? trying to get mine set up and looks like I was shorted a cable.
USB's = 1 for each display (3x), 1 for each MFD (3x) , and one for the UFC & HUD (1x), Thats 7 USB cable for the complete MIP
great video but my display are not showing up in simpro an on DCS Adjust Control tab can you help
Using either Widows or Mac be sure to configure the screens on your computer operating system prior to configuring in the SimAppPro software. Otherwise it won't work. The monitors will work on your computer as 3 additional monitors or screens. So that process must be completed first. I hope this helps and sorry I didn't get back sooner...
Thank you
hi sir does the simapp pro application work with another external screen? THANKS
not sure
Thank you sir for a very thorough video! I have been wondering whether these DDI's can be used as an extra display for other aircraft. For example in Mig21Bis there aren't any screens but there is plenty of other instruments. There is Helios for example to show these instruments on other displays. What's your take on this - Could those DDI's show instrumentation of Mig21?
PS: I'm a bass player too =)
Oh cool... gotta love the Bass...=) I use the MIP instruments and DDI's on the F16, Warthog and the Apache along with the F18... I haven't tried it on any MiG's but I don't see why they wouldn't work if the cockpit has displays... they keep coming out with updates all the time for the SimAppPro all the time...
if mig21 instruments can display on monitors then yes xD
steamapps\common\DCSWorld\Config\MonitorSetup
need create lua script that you open in game. there is many examples allready in game to test.copy paste edit what you like. rest is googles hands to find names for those instruments you like see
I've followed the instructions verbatim and still do not see activate mfds button on left side nor advance mode... Help please!
Hi, sorry I'm getting back so late... been working a lot lately. Anyway, not sure what you are referring to exactly. Keep in mind, that the TOP GUN MIP comes with 3 screens (DDI's) and three Multi Function Displays (MFD's). They are 2 different things and are programed separately in the SimAppPro software. Give me some more detail and I'll try to help if I can.
Synoptic display manager helped connect them. Maybe it should be mentioned.
I zoomed in to see
DO NOT what ever you do, Do not update to Windows 11. It jacked my shit all up! Sim app pro is completely screwed up my monitors withe the update. After I had to reset it up, DCS will not run on main screen. It wants to run behind left MFD display which is displaying wraps. But I can see the cockpit view in the corners of the display.
Thanks... I haven't planned on updated to win11 at this point.
I notice that I ended to reconfigure my mip displays after each reboot. Using a similar setup. Checking the box to restore orientation in the win wing software doesn't seem to help. Do you keep it plugged into pc all the time or remove when not in use?
I keep everything connected through a USB HUB and each input has an on off switch, so I simply turn them off when I'm not playing. I typically use my computer for work and many other things as well. I also have another 40" monitor I use so I switch back and forth from gaming to working. I don't find it a problem to reconfigure the screens each time I play. As long as I follow my sequence of turning each piece on, my system works flawless every time...
Is your hub connected to your motherboard? Or where?
yes, I the back panel
Nice! little dusty though. s'ok bro, my setup is worse for dust. never ending! lol
Does simapp pro only work for winwings displays?
SimAppPro is designed to work with your winwing hardware calibration. It will only align the DDI's in your aircraft of choice in DCS or Falcon BMS. The winwing DDI's or displays are controlled by windows "DisplayLink Manager." The winwing displays are really just custom monitors that fit perfectly into the MFD's.
Just set mine up a couple weeks ago and after it ran some updates before I did any bindings in DCS controls all the bindings were exactle were they should be. Do you think it is something new? Question: Do your displays ever need to be reset in Simapp pro after a shutdown or restart?
I reset everything every time I reboot my system, just as shown in the video.
@@videoproducer1188 Thank you for your help with that.
What Type of Display your using
If your talking about my 4K 40" TV it is a VIZIO. the small displays are made by winwing. Here is a link below>
us.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=422
Hi, can you send me a link and a list as to where you bought this units from? I would like to set up one similar to yours. thanks
In the description
Do you have to do this setup every time you launch the game? I mean, the software part?
Yes. I simply disconnect my work monitor HDMI cable. Then connect my game monitor HDMI cable. Power it on and be sure it is working as my primary monitor. I then power up each Winwing device on the USB HUB one at a time. I usually wait till I hear the windows sound (as in the video) before I power each device on. Then I configure the screens (like in the video) with the windows software and SimAppPro software. Then boot up my TrackIR and launch DCS. Works every time!!!
@@videoproducer1188 Damn! That must take the better part of 20 minutes every time? :)
What USB strip do you use?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JM9ZFFV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
is this also working in microsoft flightsimulator 2020
The SimAppPro is designed for calibration with DCS, Prepar3D and Xplane... I don't see Flight Simulator listed. But the screens work as regular screens with your operating system. If you know how to calibrate them I'm sure you could get them to work. I will say that I have flown Flight Simulator with the MIP and they are programmable like any other usb device. You can set the bindings in Flight Sim no prob...
what about a ultra wide screen?
Your main display is separate from the DDI's... ultra wide would probably be amazing...
If your interested in force feedback joystick to top off that set up by any chance, you should look into the VPforce RHINO FFB Base. 9nm ffb joystick base that is plug & play with thrustmaster & Virpil grips & works with Winwing & VKB grips with an adapter that VPforce makes for each. Really nice set up though m8, maybe a little bit of cable management to tidy things up a bit but overall a nice set up
if i were you i would loop the cables around the rear bar and and create some strain relief.
there is cable management built into each DDI and MFD so there is no strain.
how much is this set up
MIP, Pedals and HOTAS is roughly $2000
Bigger main screen. BIGGER BIGGERR!!!!
I run a similar setup, however my simpit is self made with aluminum profiles.
I'm using a 4k 55" TV that sits about 1.5ft behind the central input panels. It's very encompassing, when i don't fly in VR.
I think having three 40" 4k screens would add more to your game play giving you 120" ultra wide screen simulation.
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I'll stick with VR.
There's always that guy..
You are correct sir, vr is the way forward but still looking to build a vr pit myself, I think that immersion especially with multi threading on the way will be unmatched.
Ditto
That can be used for vr too if you don’t know
@@UnknownAI3 How are you going to see physical MFDs and switches in VR?