Growing Cattleya orchids in a cold climate!
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- This week Plant Lovers; Cattleyas! Now this will be a BIG yawn for many of you who can grow this group of fabulous orchid with ease, but in my climate, it's so simple! And after MANY failures....I'm beginning to have some success and a better understanding of what type of Cattleya can do well outside in my environment. So let's take a look a one I've got to flower after YEARS of nothing, and some new purchases based on local knowledge! And apologies; the audio dropped out on this recording so at about the 16min mark you'll have to turn up your volume! Don't know what happened there! The orchids I cover in this video are:
Brassolaeliocattleya 'angels pride' X Potinara Hawaiian chio 'orange glow'
Cattleya intermedia: Orlata x Dennis
Cattleya Claesiana flamea
Cattleya skinneri
And the other other cool climate Cattleyas I'm keen to try are:
Cattleya maxima
Cattleya loddigesii
Cattleya walkeriana
Cattleya bicolor
Cattleya schilleriana
Cattleya mossiae
Cattleya trianae
The nursery I bought the new plants from is: orchidsonnewbold.com.au/
The two research sites I mention are:
www.orchidspecies.com/
www.orchidroots.com/ - Навчання та стиль
Cattleya was my very first orchid 15 yrs ago. I let it hang in a tree and only brought it in if it was going to freeze I live in N Florida so we get sporadic cold and can freeze in the winter… summers are crazy hot. This guy was completely on his own for many many years… no repotting, no watering unless it rained, no fertilizer… it bloomed here and there. Finally i bought more orchids and really educated myself on their care in my climate. I finally repotted the cattleya 3 years ago, fertilized and watered regularly this year I got 4 fragrant massive blooms on one stem and another 3 blooms from another stem… I am beside myself with joy. I don’t even know the name of it… I’d share a pic but I don’t know how here. Ps I live terracotta pots and baskets too 😊
Thanks for watching - sounds wonderful!
LOL, I am almost over seedlings too. Great information here, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I love catts. I had a greenhouse in Kansas and they did cartwheels for me. I am into them again with my new greenhouse and have a rescue cat I am bringing back. The person that had it (it is a cat lelio hybrid) had them too wet in winter. The roots died and the leaves have tons of wrinkles. She was surprised I would buy it from her. Now 4 mos later it is growing a new cane. I have some secrets of what I do that I should share at sometime. Thank you for your great advice I can tell you are a real expert.
Thanks for watching...though I thought you were talking about a rescue cat (domestic feline) for your greenhouse!!
@@helloplantlovers ha ha. I forgot to put two t's my bad! Great channel and you have great advice
It’s good to hear that cattleyas can be successful in colder climates. My orchids go outside for a rather short summer but have to come inside in the winter because we get quite cold. (Last winter we got down to -23 F ) 🥶
Oh my!!! That IS cold! Thanks for watching!
Just looking for a bit of reassurance here 😂 I have just one orchid left of my collection(had to move lots of times, couldn’t always find them the best spots in new places and sometimes couldn’t manage to take everything with me….sigh) but she’s a bright pink/fuchsia Catt…..no idea of her ID I’m afraid. Anyway she was flowering at my last place outside, in a covered carport, just on a table. The place I’ve moved to tho was more difficult. I’m in a lower level, under the balcony of the place upstairs so lights def an issue.. She’s growing vegetatively just fine…..3/4 new growths this last season even with moving, and being shifted about trying to find a good spot, BUT has deep green, “not enough light” leaves. I’ve been trying to find her a brighter spot. In my kitchen there’s a curved wall made of those frosted glass bricks, that gets full sun. I’ve recently popped her on top of my fridge next to this wall…..I’m just a little worried it might be TOO much, heat wise, tho tbh it really doesn’t get “hot” as such. What’s the opinion? Do you think it should be ok?(and hopefully prompted to flower next season)
Hard to say - but it will need bright light so as long as the leaves aren't burning you should be fine. Maybe just keep an eye on the moisture levels. Good luck!
Очень красивая каттлея 👌 В ваших условиях не так сложно вырастить этих красоток. Они пластичны к температурам и влажности.
Спасибо за просмотр!
@@helloplantlovers спасибо вам за видео. Очень интересен и полезен опыт других.
I'm from Buenos Aires and Cattleya intermedia and Sophronitis cernua are able to grow all year round mounted directly on trees and palms. I'm not saying that it's a really common plant, but if you know where to look you can find some neighbor with a Cattleya on it's front yard or street tree.
There are many, many types and varieties of C. interemdia and many of it's hybrids, as you mentioned, are quite hardy.
I imagine that with the years you might have learned this but anyway I like to share that as a "rull of thumbs", many native orchids of the area comprising the region of southern Brazil/northern Argentina/eastern Paraguay/Uruguay (that is the southern part of the atlantic forest and the Gallery forests of the Paraná and Uruguay rivers) are quite beautifull and really hardy to cold winters and hot summers, in fact many species would do better with a little cold in winter and heat in summer than in more "tropical" conditions.
And hybrids of those species can be quite hardy as well so it might be usefull to search species of this area because you have considerably diversity and nice looking plants.
Great video!
Oh thank you! What great intel…..thanks for sharing!
Can you give us a longer list of orchids that appreciate the northeastern Argentinian weather? It will be very handy for those who live in similar climates. Thanks!
@andresarroyo2323
I can give you some of the natives and more common ones (at leas around here), just because i'm more familiar with those.
Oncidiums (now some have been moved to Gomesa) and relatives:
-O. bifolium (this is regarded as being one of, if not the most, southern growing epiphytic orchid on earth)
-O. flexuosum
-O. fimbriatum
-O. longicornu
-O. pulvinatum
-O. riograndense
-O. viperinum
-Miltonia flavescens
-Miltonia regnellii
-Trichocentrum pumilum
-Trichocentrum jonesianum (wonderfull orchid)
-Trichocentrum cebolleta
-Gomesa planifolia
Cattleya and relatives:
-C. intermedia
-C. dormaniana
-C./Laelia/Microlaelia lundii
-C./Sophronitis cernua
-C./Sophronitis coccinea
-Brassavola tuberculata
-Brassavola perrinii
-Isabelia virginalis
-Epdiendrum type-radicans/ibaguense/secundum
-Epidendrum paniculatum
-Encyclia oncidioides
Maxillarias:
-vitelliniflora
-spegazziniana (one of the nicest scented miniatures i’ve found, wonderfull watermelon smell)
-chrysantha
-picta
Pleurothalis and similar:
-P. grobyi
-P. hyrophila
-P. linearifolia
-P. obovata
-P. recurva
-P. riograndensis
-P. pubescens
-Acianthera crinita
-Barbosella porchii
Others (I include many beautifull miniatures):
-Lankesterella ceracifolia
-Isochilus linearis
-Cyrtopodium pflanzii
-Cyrtopodium paniculatum
-Cyrtopodium palmifrons
-Cyrtopodium brandonianum
-Capanemia superflua
-Capanemia micromera
-Catasetum fimbriatum
-Bulbophyllum napellii
-Campylocentrum aromaticum
-Campylocentrum grisebachii (exotic looking, miniature, leaf-less vandaceae)
-Aspidogyne kuczynskii (terrestrial miniature, relative of the jewel orchids but very hardy)
-Stanhophea graveolens
-Oeceoclades Maculata
-Vanilla edwallii
-Vanilla chamissonis
-Zygostates alleniana
Certainly non-natives that do grow well outside all year round here in Buenos Aires:
-Dendrobium type-nobile
-Dendrobium moschatum
-Dendrobium kingianum
-Bifrenaria harrisoniae
-Neofinetia falcata
-Phaius thankervillae
-Bletilla striata
Wowser what a list! thank you!! @@patricioiasielski8816
I very much appreciate that list , Patricio. I'll try my best looking for them in Europe, although some are absolutely unavailable such as G. bifolia. Thanks again!
I’m repeating myself but mine are inside north facing window plenty of light, no intense sun will burn leaves, in Melbourne, easy 😊
Sounds perfect!
One book you might like is “A Bay Area Guide to Orchids and Their Culture”. It lists many orchids that work outside for us in Northern California, where we have very similar conditions to yours.
Oh thank you!! I will!
Any suggestions to the list of northern California growing orchids, @beeeingmeee ? :D The book is hard to find or unavailable in other parts of the world
Well done getting cattleyas to flower! I’ve learned the hard way to wait for little root tips to appear before attempting a repot. The whole plant can sulk & the old roots rot which shrivels the leaves. The orchid then slowly declines! If however it has a new growth & root tips starting, it will take off in the new media. Good luck on your journey!
Thanks for watching!
I love the cattleya intermedia. The beautiful flower and smaller sized compact plant is attractive and big plus for anyone with limited growing space.
Thanks for watching - looking forward to mine improving!
Love this somewhat longer form video! thank you!
Thanks for watching it!
Well I'm in the states.. Michigan to be exact. It's a lot colder right now. Than you.. You're closer to our Florida weather but anyway I love you channel❤😂🎉 and thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Just divine orchid. Great video. My Cattleya doesnt look good Im afraid.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the book recommendation - you're one of the few (maybe the only?) social media orchidists to give book suggestions. Loving the color coordination of blooms, outfit, and book cover! Not loving how I can't get my cattleyas to bloom yet - sigh - due to light issues more than temperature for me. I finally broke down and bought lamp-sized grow lights this summer that my other orchids seem to like so, hopefully, the cattleyas will, too.
I’ve only noticed the colour coordination now you mention it! Thanks for watching!
Dear Matthew, what a really great stand-out video, addressing a very niche but important topic. I agree with you about most things from repotting timings to a swearing-off from seedlings. I also agree that there are not enough cattleya care books (which is why I wrote my mini book). I like Chadwick's The Classic Cattleya but it doesn't deal with cold growing. Thank you so much for mentioning me and for your thoughtful insights. I hope you find a Maxima again and wishing you happy growing from Wexford to Melbourne.
Thank you Rachel!
Ps just read cats can be grown in scoria but in warmth, light and inside
Thank you Matthew! Just the kind of info I was looking for, I've been struggling with Cattleyas and I have similar conditions to yours. Greetings from Athens, Greece
Oh good luck!! Thanks for watching!
You are totally entertaining
Thanks for watching!
Hey Matthew,
Laelia purpurata often grows accompanied by cattleya intermedia and can also take cooler conditions but also very hot summers so that could be a good fit for you!
Yes thank you - I have two so we'll see!
Growing orchids for me has been a battle. Living in U.S. Zone 6 we get really cold and bring everyone indoors for winter. I have found BLC Alma Kee easy-to-use grow and reflower. I found another way to kill it though. However I will be getting a new division soon.
Oh no! It’s always a learning curve! I’ve killed so many Cattleyas I’ve stopped counting!!
Hello Mathew I love your rambling it has helped me a lot in the journey of growing orchids. Im in the mid north coast of NSW so My question is what orchids can you grow in the south side of the house ?
Hmmmm you you mean inside or side or outside? Ideally you'll want cooler growers with lower light needs.
I enjoyed watching😊🤲💖I grow Cattleya in Japan. We have humid hot and wet summers. The winter is cold with some freezes, so I bring them indoors. Almost everyday is sunny in winter with 50% humidity but very few rainy days in winter. You can grow them in Sphagnum moss or bark here. In contrast I have to be super careful with Cymbidiums. I have lost a lot to the summers. I am going to do a better job this year🙏
Good luck with the Cymbidiums!!
Thx Mathrew
I bought my first orchid in august this year
Have about 35 now 🤣
Iam moving to a house at newyear so will het more space
I mainly like mini cattleyas, so eciting to see if tvey will thrive for me, have to have them all inddor now and gues I have to get arteficial light, since its greay and cloudy all the time and only light for 7 hours
So thx for your inspiration 🙏
Well good luck and thanks for watching!
I have Cattlaya Purpurata, that bloomed in the Autumn, the sheath had been looking at me for severel months. After blooming it sent up a new shoot that is producing roots like theirs no tomorrow. We have temps down to 5 centigrade. It’s slowed down, and looking a bit pale, but we have a few more months of winter. I only water it every 10-12 days.
Sounds fabulous! Well done!
Love your videos, thank you. I have a question. Why are your orchids under cover protecting from the rain when outside for the summer? If it is growing season and their roots are active, wouldn’t they benefit from getting rained on? I have mine outside under shade cloth so they get drenched often, but now I am questioning that. Much appreciated. Sara from Minnesota
Simply because that’s the only space I have - under cover. Also Melbourne’s summer can be quite unpredictable with cold and rain which can be disastrous. However I made a video with Ally in her grow area a few months ago and her orchids are all outside with very little shelter from a tree in summer! So whatever works I guess! Thanks for watching!
At the Victorian Orchid "Spectacular" Orchid Show, there was a grower from Stanhope (Vic) that had a Cat. quantum Leap 'Volcano" for sale which had a magnificent flower. I reluctantly purchased it as I have been able to get a Cat. to flower , grow yes, flower no.
The grower stated that in his locality winter could be -4C to summer mid to high 40's, which I believe knowing the locality. whether it makes the distance and flowers again remains to be seen..
Just saw your message! How did it go??
@@helloplantlovers I'll let you know this time next year, after winter. So far it has 3 extra bulbs, if they survive and flower it will be a first.
I read an article recently that stated orchids growing at high elevations are more adapted to pure water and cannot utilize as much fertilizer.
Brassocattleya or Richard Mueller hybrids with orange flowers are supposed to be very vigorous.
Thanks for watching!
I live in USA IN Illinois can not grow orchids outdoors in winter here it can get below sub zero
Thanks for watching!
Hello… do you have a B.nodosa x c . walkeriana ?
Recently purchased one and would like to know more about them. And how it grows for you if you do have one.
No I don’t unfortunately - but good luck with yours!!
I have two small Cattleyas. They are a bit of a challenge, but I’m figuring it out. 😅❤🪴
Aren’t we all!! Thanks for watching!
Cattleya was my very first orchid 15 yrs ago. I let it hang in a tree and only brought it in if it was going to freeze I live in N Florida so we get sporadic cold and can freeze in the winter… summers are crazy hot. This guy was completely on his own for many many years… no repotting, no watering unless it rained, no fertilizer… it bloomed here and there. Finally i bought more orchids and really educated myself on their care in my climate. I finally repotted the cattleya 3 years ago, fertilized and watered regularly this year I got 4 fragrant massive blooms on one stem and another 3 blooms from another stem… I am beside myself with joy. I don’t even know the name of it… I’d share a pic but I don’t know how here. Ps I love terracotta pots and baskets too 😊
Pss love your entertaining and informative videos
What a great story! Glad it's rewarding you with LOTS of blooms! Thanks for watching!