Honestly Cam was bad after S2. He constantly manipulates Mitchell and then gets mad when he is in the wrong. He has his moments of kindness sure, but usually he is just plain selfish and manipulative.
Season 2 he was selfish and kinda unlikable tbh. Mitchell had his flash mob routine that he only did to impress Cam. And Cam takes it personally because he wasn't invited to dance. He didn't care how happy Mitchell was.
Yeah Cam has always been insecure and anytime he's faced with it no matter the season, he gets manipulative and is an asshole. He's just one of those southern/mid western ppl who think they are super kind but really are just fake nice.
Not to mention Cam didn’t even let Mitch explain as to why he took part in the flash mob in the mall. Cam was right that Mitch can be a little rigid. In fact, Mitch did say that the flash mob dance was actually his love letter to Cam! Mitch actually did try to explain, but since Cam was angry, he actually shouted “YOU DANCED WITHOUT ME MITCHELL”! Sheesh Cameron, Mitchell was just dancing his love letter to you, and the least you could’ve done was show a little bit of appreciation and gratitude!
I know Right! Like he makes a critique/complaint/observation of his partner, who then tries to improve for him, and he is a total self absorbed a-hole. If I was Mitch that would have been a big issue in the home! Well that and the fact he had a to go bag packed. Ugh!
Alex deserved to bitter to her family. She was studious and ambitious thus her reward was ridicule. Really grinds my gears that Claire put pictures of every other member of the Dunphy family on her desk but Alex didn’t make the cut
my favourite episode is the one where claire goes to alex's school and realises just how lucky she is to have a self-suffcient, brilliant daughter like alex. i wish the whole mid-seasons crisis the show went through where they made haley date a million people would be replaced by exploring alex's love life more
@@flying_frog_who Sometimes it's easy to think someone who is very independent with their physical needs is also independent with their emotional needs.
I never liked Cam from the start. I always saw him as the guy who blamed Mitchell, never took his side, and only had a few scenes where he showed humanity.
In real life, they're _more likely_ to. On TV, they want to send a message(tm) so they go out of their way to try to depict gay couples in as saintly a light as possible Which, with how Hollywood is, still let's things like this slip through by accident.
@@RoninCatholic Yeah, us gay men have to deal with them more likely than not due to homophobia having been REALLY prevalent throughout that time period.
@@ExtremeWreck "Homophobia" has little to do with how abusive gay people get, actually. If anything the forced "tolerance" of all things degenerate enables people to get more abusive than they'd otherwise be. The main thing making gay men less _physically_ abusive than straight men are towards women statistically is cowardice: That the cowardly type of man who is an abuser is more afraid of being hit back by a fellow man than the same personality type would be of being hit back by a woman. They are at least equally emotionally abusive to other men, and IMO anal sex itself qualifies as physical abuse given the rectum is objectively not built to handle that kind of treatment. Lesbians, meanwhile, tend to be both more physically abusive than straight women and more abusive than straight men, both physically and emotionally/psychologically. This is born out by a number of factors including the total social domination of both feminism and the "gay rights movement" in modern society insulating them from consequences to their actions, widespread notions that physical abuse is "less serious" when done _by_ women regardless of the victim, or that mental and emotional abuse aren't really abuse at all and don't need to be addressed ever.
@@RoninCatholic Not sure on that. They are stereotypes mostly. They can happen in real life, but those aren't ALWAYS the reason. I would probably say a mix between homophobia, gay/lesbian erasure, & the overall love of violence that most humans have inside them. (seriously, had video games not existed, we'd probably have a ton more violence going on than we already have. That sounds a bit weird, but it's happened. Pretty sure most of those violent teenage TikTokkers don't play many video games, if at all... either that or they're just stupid).
I knew I wasn't the only one who saw how unbearable and toxic new Cam is. I wish that Mitch would just divorce him in the show, he deserves so much better.
“Destruction of one of the best characters”……ummmmm Cam was ALWAYS FROM DAY ONE a selfish, narcissistic, tantrum throwing, over critical, dish it out but can’t take it DIVA!
Yes, Flanderization could be the reason but……. It could also be a character development. Meaning when peoples horrid behavior is met with just “uh oh or silly or tsk tsk” and no consequence then people don’t grow/learn/change. Same for writing characters, if horrid characters are beloved then that characteristic is latched onto, which is why flanderization happens.
I agree, he’s so selfish and manipulative and it makes it hard for me to watch Cam and Mitch and I really like Mitch. I hated the episode where Cam basically gaslights Mitch to go to this Zen spa retreat and then ditches him so he could see a famous baseball team. And when Mitch gets understandably upset, he says it’s not a big deal. That’s so frustrating! And instead of saying he’s sorry, he chalks it up to Mitch understanding and letting it go, which he did not.
cam is a demon feeding on mitchell’s soul. cam isn’t good for mitchell. if mitch was with someone who wasn’t toxic, manipulative, selfish etc. it would help him heal more from his childhood traumas. but since he’s with someone like cam who constantly manipulates mitch into making it all him, mitch can’t begin to heal. it just inflicts more damage. cam is a parasite.
One thing I’ll NEVER get over is Cam allowing his mom to sexually assault his boyfriend whenever she wanted to. Absolutely. Never. I literally don’t give a fuck whatever excuse he used. Don’t get me wrong y’all - I really love my parents, as in, I’ve always been a mommy’s and daddy’s girl that always came crying to them whenever anything went wrong and it would break me if I lost contact with them. But if I ever found out that my mom or dad were inappropriately touching/sexually assaulting my girlfriend, they’d be out of our life in an instant and I would NEVER allow them to come anywhere near her again. I don’t even care, I’d do whatever it takes to protect that girl. Even if you’re my mom or dad, you won’t be getting a free pass anytime soon. So Cam blaming it on the fact that he’s a mommy’s boy is bullshit in my opinion. It’s honestly crazy how that wasn’t the breaking point for Mitch. Cam literally walked in on his mother touching and inappropriately staring at his boyfriend who was literally naked, and guess what Cam did… He took a fucking photo… Like, what? Excuse me? I will never get how people like Cam. He clearly doesn’t give a shit about Mitchell. Also, is this what you want to teach your daughter as a father figure? It’s okay if someone assaults you as long as it’s someone you’re close to? Really?
Yeah that’s unforgivable. If the father of my child, my partner for a decade, someone I share a bed with, told me he was sexually harrassed I would immediately believe. Even claire dismisses mitchell. It’s a horrid episode
Yeah I know it was for comedy but I don't get why they thought it would be a good idea to make a comedy of sexual harrassment. Who wrote that and thought it was a great idea, serously? Maybe people took these things less seriously back then but still, they knew it was a crime, right? It was crazy to me.
Thank God someone talk about this. "Mother Tucker" was the worst episode in the entire show and it made me hate both Cam and Claire. Mitch went to them and they both mocked and dismissed him. To make it worse in "ClosetCon'13" she *still* touches him inappropriately meaning he *really* did nothing to prevent it from happening. No wonder Mitch didn't want the Tucker's to be Lily's godparents. He was probably worried that she would be a freak to his daughter too. To make it 10X worse, in "Grab It", Cameron practically *forced* Mitchell to be sexually assaulted against his will! He knew damn well what was going to happen when Mitch walked onto that stage and he didn't even think to make sure it was okay with Mitchell that he was about to be unconsetually made out with. And when he didn't want to, Cam called him selfish because if Mitch didn't go up then Cam couldn't have his spotlight. I'm glad that Mitchell stole his thunder to put him in his place. Cameron was always a terrible person and Mitchell deserves far far far better. He is fucking disgusting and doesn't care at all for the man he claims to love. (Sorry for the rant. I'm *very* passionate about this.)
I really don’t understand why in the ballet episode they don’t just ask her for a copy of the video? Or maybe just let her know it blocked their view so it won’t happen again. I feel like if that episode was in the early season it would’ve been about them getting too upset about it, going to confront her, learning her sad story then awkwardly trying to diffuse the situation.
I think something that annoys me a lot was this episode when Mitchell convinced Cam to go to therapy, and out of the blue Cam managed to make years of therapy in one second and the therapist is like "wow, this guy is amazing, come on Mitchell you still need therapy". Even if it was for comedy, it is still weird. Like sure Mitchell needs some therapy, but Cam needs even more. It is crazy to me that they made him so selfish and at the same time, try to convince you that Mitchell is the bad guy. Also, I think it is weird how we are supposed to support their relationship even if it is crazy unhealthy. The other couples also have some conflict, but for Mitch and Cam, it just seems that they have opposed values to the point you wonder how they even get together in the first place.
If Modern Family had ended with Mitch and Cam’s wedding as an hour long special, it might’ve gone down in history as one of the greatest shows of all time.
Alex going from snarky & sarcastic to cruel & bitter seems like a natural progression from feeling unloved like the black sheep of the family & it seems like she would’ve made herself seem superior to have some kind of self-esteem boost around her family
There are characters like Cameron that become so bad that it'll lead to people believing all gay men are evil... and then there's THAT GUY. If you know who THAT GUY is, you know. If you don't then that's for the better.
If you base your opinion on all gay people off of one bad character, when there is a good gay character in the same show, the problem is on them and not the show writers.
Ooh boy, I could talk about this for ages. In the majority of the episodes in most of the seasons but primarily in the later half, Cam is toxic, controlling, manipulative, and just all-around a bad partner. He treats Mitchell terribly, from diminishing his trauma and belittling him to flat-out not caring when his own mother, Barb, and his sister, Pam, sexually assaulted Mitchell on multiple occasions. He plays on Mitchell’s abandonment issues (such as keeping a packed suitcase to leave whenever he wants), he mocks Mitchell for not being romantic but scorns him when he does (‘Manny Get Your Gun’ is the biggest example of this), and openly scorns Mitchell for having boundaries (‘The Kiss’ comes to mind, but this happens in almost every episode). Additionally, there are so many scenes where he just appears to not care about Mitchell whatsoever; in ‘The Wild’, for example, when Mitchell is left outside alone in the middle of the woods at night, Cam doesn’t care at all, or in ‘Summer Lovin’ when his only priority is to shove Mitchell back into work rather than help him work through what’s really going on/what he’s struggling with. The three worst things Cam has done, however, is 1) in s11 when he lied about Mitchell to their friend group and faked a breakup in order to gain sympathy for no reason other than his own ego, something I have had an ex do to me which makes it more personal, 2) in the episode ‘Mother!’ when Cam is shown to have befriended DeDe (who is portrayed as someone who abused Mitchell and Claire!!) and talked shit about Mitchell to her for their entire relationship, and 3) in the episode ‘Grab It’ when Cam forces Mitchell into a role on stage where he is non-consensually kissed by a girl and forces Mitchell to apologize for ‘ruining his play’ afterward. I won’t even go into detail about the ending of s11 for them, because it makes me SO angry, but Mitchell was forced into that too, even when it was an awful situation that would bring good for no one other than - you guessed it - Cameron. Some people might say that Mitchell is toxic, too. I wholeheartedly disagree, however. One example is, as previously listed, ‘Manny Get Your Gun’, when Mitchell is part of a flash mob to surprise Cam with a romantic gesture, but Cam is ungrateful and angry and just a douche overall. When Mitchell tells Cam he is being sensitive, he is one hundred percent correct. On the flip side, when Mitchell is sexually assaulted by Cam’s mother and voices his discomfort to Cam, and Cam calls him sensitive - that is toxic. That is not okay. That is disgusting behavior. I could go on and on and on about how Mitchell deserves so much better, how Cam is terrible, how the homophobia is so deeply rooted in the show’s writers that they made the one gay couple into one of the most manipulative and toxic relationships I’ve ever seen in media. I could also stress how bad this could be for someone in real life (i.e., ‘my favorite TV couple acts like this and so if my relationship is also like that, it must be healthy!’) or how terrible it is given what we know about Mitchell’s past with shitty boyfriends only to be thrust into this new environment with another toxic partner. But I believe I’ve given enough broad examples to this. Unfortunately, this really can be blamed on the homophobia of the writers/network and of just bad writing itself; sitcoms often fall apart when going on too long, or relationships lose their charm with the audience. That’s my biggest issue with sitcoms, though- I guarantee that no one was laughing when Cam got angry at Mitchell because Cam’s sister assaulted him. TLDR: Cam is manipulative and toxic and shitty, which is why I write fanfiction for them. Because Mitchell deserves better, and in the fleeting, rare episodes where Cam sticks to his pilot version rather than an awful partner, he is just as wonderful. Anyways, my UA-cam recommended knows me TOO well.
The fact that it took 6 seasons for you to consider cam unhealthy for Mitchell makes me fear for people's perceptions of what makes a relationship actually good. Cameron NEVER respected Mitchells boundaries. Cameron ALWAYS played victim and made Mitchell out to be uptight and overly reserved when all Mitchell was expressing was his feelings, setting clear and fair boundaries. Cam lost me when he made him not being on lily's papers because he was literally a fucking flight rick into Mitchell being in the wrong for not signing off his DAUGHTER to the man he wasnt even with for a year yet who already expressed how he was going to leave the second shit got hard. Thats not even mentioning him cheating on Mitchell and going to the Beyonce concert without him in Vegas cause "whatever happens in vegas stays in Vegas." The show has ALWAYS been "Mitchell is wrong and needs to grow" its NEVER called out Cam's worst qualities. It only called out the minor bullshits and never changed them. Nah, im running this shit back. Remember their honeymoon? Cam couldve gotten mitch fired but still played victim
I completely agree with what you said. As of the later seasons, he became my second least favorite character after Phil. Only reason why I dislike Phil more is because Phil's stupidity affected a lot of people, not just Claire (like the time where he hurt Luke's eye because his ego was hurt), while Cam's selfish character for the most part only really affected Mitchell. That doesn’t make it any better obviously, but either way, he just has a lot of problems and I am still questioning why the hell they made Mitchell agree to move to Missouri with him. If I were Mitchell, I would divorce him at that point. Mitchell made it sound like Cam made such a great sacrifice by staying in California, but that is BS. Cam initially moved to California out of his own free will, while Mitchell is going to Missouri just for Cam.
@@jennysayquack1730Phil was definitely not a great dad. He was just “fun” with his son. He neglected Alex, and his relationship with Hailey is just kinda meh. Showing so much obvious favoritism is bad parenting. Not to mention he made his wife the bear all of the disciplinary responsibility. Being a bad husband makes you a bad parent.
For some reason, despite liking modern family around the time when it was popular, I still never expected to find a Modern Family critical analysis video on anybody’s channel I already watched
I agree that Cam is insufferable. Before they were engaged I couldn’t understand how the writers were trying to convince us that he and Mitch were good as a couple. They set his character up to be so complex in the best ways but ultimately made him a bitchy, selfish queen.
Man. I didn’t know it got this bad. I stopped watching when Andy became more prominent, so I didn’t get to many of these episodes. Thanks for letting me know I didn’t miss much.
I always thought he was kind and caring due to his farm upbringing. And the city life was gradually corrupting him, especially that he became a little spoiled by the nicer life, and financial aid by Jay. It made sense to me.
Just saw this video and happy that I'm not the only one that realizes that cam is the worst. I didn't like it when he threw mitch under the bus with his sister than took all the credit when mitch offered her the apartment. Not to mention the episode where cam wasted his theater students time just so mitch would admit that he threw away his clown figurine
Cam was great in season 1, the emotional foil to mitchell. You can see why they are in a relationship. Even season 2 But as it goes on becomes so toxic. Even mitchell becomes a more toxic person
His own sister doesn't like him. He reminds me of all the adults in my life growing up and I'm afraid to turn into one of them. I will give it a name "the zombie narcissism" and every once in awhile I have to take a zombrex just to feel normal again and ps, no one talks about this but cam reminds me of dede in a way. Given that mitchell claim he had a good relationship with her just proves the old saying "daughters marry their fathers, sons marry their mothers"
@@faithcyan2462 Clair didn’t marry her father’s alike cuz phil knocked her up, i think that’s a blessing in disguise but mitch didn’t escape his fate very sad to see this character got gaslighted so bad everything is fine cuz it’s comedy. Cam was so attached to Lily until “the adoption baby boy” was ON, remember that’s the ending of season 2, so Lily was a neglected since she was like 4 years old. Cam was addicted to “be a trophy wife” than be the good parent to lily. Lily was like an abandoned project to Cam. Mitch… he was a - idk what to say
@KhmerTarotReading oooooh, true. But when I said "daughters marry their fathers and sons marry their mothers"....I was talking about mitch. Because cam and dede (mitch's mom) are alot alike. I wasn't talking about Claire. I was just quoting a saying . That's all. I hope that make sense. I feel bad for Lilly because her parents remind me of my mother. They care about their appearance, so they can be accepted in society. Smoke and mirrors, my friend. Smoke and mirrors. All they care about is their image.
After the episode Cam tried to turn Mitchells friend against Mitchell just to see if they'll take his side over Mitchell and tried to manipulate Mitchell into thinking he was in the right. I didn't like him after that and felt sorry for Mitchell
2:15 Looking at this scene, season 1 cam would probably freak out about it more than anyone else. But I really liked modern family overall. The seasons you are talking about are for sure not the best the show has to offer, but i still enjoyed some of the jokes and they had some good moments too. I feel like the writers of the show had a very specific set of characters in mind when creating the show, and when everyone grew older, they did'nt know what to do with them anymore. so they added new characters and changed stuff, which made it worse. I guess for a show like this it would be smart to just end it when everyone is grown up. But even with the flaws, it's a really good show with clever writing most of the time.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Cam! It seems like the show is always on his side, making Mitchel the bad guy! It's been a hot minute since I've seen the show but what always sat really wrong with me was the way Cam let his family treat Mitch. Not just his sister (which was horrible enough) but literally all of them. Mitch who had a lot of traumata from his childhood especially because of his sexuality and had to deal with his father's homophobia. It took him such a long time and so much strength to come out and start standing up for himself. But the second it comes to his family, Cam is on their side, defending them, gaslighting Mitch and making him feel guilty for speaking up. Also, there are in heneral just some awful scences that had me feel so bad for Mitch. Like in the first season when he wasn’t comfortable with being affectionate with Cameron in front of his family and Cam started a public discussion about it in front of everyone?
@@screamingapple6195maybe the interpretation of the character would not have been this caricaturally gay? I don't know, I find the mannerisms more nuanced in Mitch and I can't help wondering if it is because the actor is actually gay that it feels less forced.
Yeah, I loved them but sometimes I felt like their relationship was a little toxic, they were many times arguing with eachother, more than the other families I think; I always loved Mitch and I won't say he was perfect, but he was more mature than Cam, so sometimes I thought, "how are they still together?"
It’s impressive how you’re able to keep my attention when this is a video about a series I have never watched before and have zero interest in watching for the foreseeable future. Great video.
if Dede was the Cameron, how dede treated Mitch and Clair. i wonder how Cam treated lily and their baby boy. no wonder they delayed their baby adoption till last season
i know this was a late comment. i love modern family even the later seasons i’ve watched the whole show 3 times. but.. why did they move to missouri poor mitchell and lily especially mitchell. he hated hated that town everyone treated him awful. cam at least loved la. they had that beautiful house and the whole family to love their baby rex. justice for mitchell
i remembered years ago before they legalized Gay Marriage they did that cuz “the world are oblivious to gay relationships” so they made only gay main couple in the show -- chaotic and kinda stereotypical toxic gay so the “general audience felt digestible” they did that so” they raised gay awareness” i still don’t understand the contradictions here 😂❤
Watching the show for the first time through and I’m glad it isn’t something I just noticed, I think it is really telling when Jay turns and says that Mitch married his mother, I think it was season 8 or 9 but it has weirdly gone from slightly over the top antics to Mitch just being put down and manipulated for laughs pretty much any episode they are in now.
im so glad i found this video and read the comments because i absolutely hate cam and believe that mitchel deserves sooooo much better, i dont even like cam as a parent. he’s so selfish and manipulative and has zero empathy for his loved ones.
I haven’t seen all of modern family I’ve only seen a few episodes though even I can tell it’s quality was going down hill. Also off topic I’ve figured out a perfect name for anti-character quest how about character sidetrack
I think these changes were supposed be them going through some sort of a phase as a way of character develepmont. Plan being them getting better as time goes on. (?)
Eh, the problem overall is that they had no where to go that would keep audience attention. I think it's a bit of a flaw to call him too caring in early episodes, everything he does is really for him and he's never quick to truly understand or help someone else. Even when he's "helping" someone else early on, it's always on his own terms and sense of grandiosity. In later seasons they just got honest about who he was and who people with his personality actually are outside of a contrived sitcom hijink. It was poorly executed, but that's what happens several years into a character who started at 11 and doesn't actually interact with the other characters.
@@theplaidbutterflyprince oh shoot I think I missed that episode because I don’t remember him transforming into a demonic creature and stealing his families life force? Which season?
Theres many episodes where hes mean. Faking breakup only for attention, lying about Jay being gay, and he was so annoying in connection lost. @@ilovefrying_pan3001
Cam was one of my favorite characters. He was funny, likable (mostly), and felt like Mitchell needed him to balance him out. After S6 for me it got worse
Honestly Cam was bad after S2. He constantly manipulates Mitchell and then gets mad when he is in the wrong. He has his moments of kindness sure, but usually he is just plain selfish and manipulative.
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Season 2 he was selfish and kinda unlikable tbh. Mitchell had his flash mob routine that he only did to impress Cam. And Cam takes it personally because he wasn't invited to dance. He didn't care how happy Mitchell was.
Idk why the writers did that they could just have made him glad mitch suprised him@@JRMagro
Yeah Cam has always been insecure and anytime he's faced with it no matter the season, he gets manipulative and is an asshole. He's just one of those southern/mid western ppl who think they are super kind but really are just fake nice.
Yeah it felt out of character, both before and after that episode (before S6), he would've been surprised by that. @@abdulazizabdulaziz6304
Not to mention Cam didn’t even let Mitch explain as to why he took part in the flash mob in the mall. Cam was right that Mitch can be a little rigid. In fact, Mitch did say that the flash mob dance was actually his love letter to Cam! Mitch actually did try to explain, but since Cam was angry, he actually shouted “YOU DANCED WITHOUT ME MITCHELL”! Sheesh Cameron, Mitchell was just dancing his love letter to you, and the least you could’ve done was show a little bit of appreciation and gratitude!
I know Right!
Like he makes a critique/complaint/observation of his partner, who then tries to improve for him, and he is a total self absorbed a-hole. If I was Mitch that would have been a big issue in the home! Well that and the fact he had a to go bag packed. Ugh!
Alex deserved to bitter to her family. She was studious and ambitious thus her reward was ridicule. Really grinds my gears that Claire put pictures of every other member of the Dunphy family on her desk but Alex didn’t make the cut
Her picture was there, which was taken by bob
my favourite episode is the one where claire goes to alex's school and realises just how lucky she is to have a self-suffcient, brilliant daughter like alex. i wish the whole mid-seasons crisis the show went through where they made haley date a million people would be replaced by exploring alex's love life more
Claire put a frame with Alexs whole picture. Yes she was neglected but not unloved
@@flying_frog_who Sometimes it's easy to think someone who is very independent with their physical needs is also independent with their emotional needs.
@@geethaamrita7753 His name was Ben
I never liked Cam from the start. I always saw him as the guy who blamed Mitchell, never took his side, and only had a few scenes where he showed humanity.
Same! I absolutely hated Cam!
Just goes to show that even gay people can have abusive relationships too.
In real life, they're _more likely_ to. On TV, they want to send a message(tm) so they go out of their way to try to depict gay couples in as saintly a light as possible
Which, with how Hollywood is, still let's things like this slip through by accident.
@@RoninCatholic Yeah, us gay men have to deal with them more likely than not due to homophobia having been REALLY prevalent throughout that time period.
@@ExtremeWreck "Homophobia" has little to do with how abusive gay people get, actually. If anything the forced "tolerance" of all things degenerate enables people to get more abusive than they'd otherwise be.
The main thing making gay men less _physically_ abusive than straight men are towards women statistically is cowardice: That the cowardly type of man who is an abuser is more afraid of being hit back by a fellow man than the same personality type would be of being hit back by a woman. They are at least equally emotionally abusive to other men, and IMO anal sex itself qualifies as physical abuse given the rectum is objectively not built to handle that kind of treatment.
Lesbians, meanwhile, tend to be both more physically abusive than straight women and more abusive than straight men, both physically and emotionally/psychologically. This is born out by a number of factors including the total social domination of both feminism and the "gay rights movement" in modern society insulating them from consequences to their actions, widespread notions that physical abuse is "less serious" when done _by_ women regardless of the victim, or that mental and emotional abuse aren't really abuse at all and don't need to be addressed ever.
@@RoninCatholic Not sure on that. They are stereotypes mostly. They can happen in real life, but those aren't ALWAYS the reason. I would probably say a mix between homophobia, gay/lesbian erasure, & the overall love of violence that most humans have inside them.
(seriously, had video games not existed, we'd probably have a ton more violence going on than we already have. That sounds a bit weird, but it's happened. Pretty sure most of those violent teenage TikTokkers don't play many video games, if at all... either that or they're just stupid).
@Paladin Polecat if you include lesbian couples then it tips the scale if it's just gay men they are less likely
I knew I wasn't the only one who saw how unbearable and toxic new Cam is. I wish that Mitch would just divorce him in the show, he deserves so much better.
“Destruction of one of the best characters”……ummmmm Cam was ALWAYS FROM DAY ONE a selfish, narcissistic, tantrum throwing, over critical, dish it out but can’t take it DIVA!
Yes, Flanderization could be the reason but……. It could also be a character development. Meaning when peoples horrid behavior is met with just “uh oh or silly or tsk tsk” and no consequence then people don’t grow/learn/change. Same for writing characters, if horrid characters are beloved then that characteristic is latched onto, which is why flanderization happens.
THIS OMFG!!!! THIS HE WAS ALWAYS THAT WAY!!! 😤😤Lil vro is blind if he didn't see it from the start smh my head,eyes ugh 💔
Not only that, but he also keeps on gaslighting mitchell into feeling like he was the bad guy in the situation.
fr i dont get why people like him
I agree, he’s so selfish and manipulative and it makes it hard for me to watch Cam and Mitch and I really like Mitch. I hated the episode where Cam basically gaslights Mitch to go to this Zen spa retreat and then ditches him so he could see a famous baseball team. And when Mitch gets understandably upset, he says it’s not a big deal. That’s so frustrating! And instead of saying he’s sorry, he chalks it up to Mitch understanding and letting it go, which he did not.
I feel bad for Mitchell. His mother is manipulative and his husband is also manipulative. Even his father always is so un loving. Claire is ok.
cam is a demon feeding on mitchell’s soul. cam isn’t good for mitchell. if mitch was with someone who wasn’t toxic, manipulative, selfish etc. it would help him heal more from his childhood traumas. but since he’s with someone like cam who constantly manipulates mitch into making it all him, mitch can’t begin to heal. it just inflicts more damage. cam is a parasite.
Mitch deserves better.
Surprised cam didn't turn Mitchell straight
One thing I’ll NEVER get over is Cam allowing his mom to sexually assault his boyfriend whenever she wanted to. Absolutely. Never.
I literally don’t give a fuck whatever excuse he used. Don’t get me wrong y’all - I really love my parents, as in, I’ve always been a mommy’s and daddy’s girl that always came crying to them whenever anything went wrong and it would break me if I lost contact with them.
But if I ever found out that my mom or dad were inappropriately touching/sexually assaulting my girlfriend, they’d be out of our life in an instant and I would NEVER allow them to come anywhere near her again. I don’t even care, I’d do whatever it takes to protect that girl. Even if you’re my mom or dad, you won’t be getting a free pass anytime soon.
So Cam blaming it on the fact that he’s a mommy’s boy is bullshit in my opinion. It’s honestly crazy how that wasn’t the breaking point for Mitch. Cam literally walked in on his mother touching and inappropriately staring at his boyfriend who was literally naked, and guess what Cam did… He took a fucking photo… Like, what? Excuse me?
I will never get how people like Cam. He clearly doesn’t give a shit about Mitchell. Also, is this what you want to teach your daughter as a father figure? It’s okay if someone assaults you as long as it’s someone you’re close to? Really?
Yeah that’s unforgivable.
If the father of my child, my partner for a decade, someone I share a bed with, told me he was sexually harrassed I would immediately believe.
Even claire dismisses mitchell. It’s a horrid episode
Yeah I know it was for comedy but I don't get why they thought it would be a good idea to make a comedy of sexual harrassment. Who wrote that and thought it was a great idea, serously? Maybe people took these things less seriously back then but still, they knew it was a crime, right? It was crazy to me.
Agreed 100%. You ate and left ZERO crumbs.
Thank God someone talk about this. "Mother Tucker" was the worst episode in the entire show and it made me hate both Cam and Claire. Mitch went to them and they both mocked and dismissed him. To make it worse in "ClosetCon'13" she *still* touches him inappropriately meaning he *really* did nothing to prevent it from happening. No wonder Mitch didn't want the Tucker's to be Lily's godparents. He was probably worried that she would be a freak to his daughter too.
To make it 10X worse, in "Grab It", Cameron practically *forced* Mitchell to be sexually assaulted against his will! He knew damn well what was going to happen when Mitch walked onto that stage and he didn't even think to make sure it was okay with Mitchell that he was about to be unconsetually made out with. And when he didn't want to, Cam called him selfish because if Mitch didn't go up then Cam couldn't have his spotlight. I'm glad that Mitchell stole his thunder to put him in his place. Cameron was always a terrible person and Mitchell deserves far far far better. He is fucking disgusting and doesn't care at all for the man he claims to love. (Sorry for the rant. I'm *very* passionate about this.)
THIS. FUCKING THIS.
I really don’t understand why in the ballet episode they don’t just ask her for a copy of the video? Or maybe just let her know it blocked their view so it won’t happen again. I feel like if that episode was in the early season it would’ve been about them getting too upset about it, going to confront her, learning her sad story then awkwardly trying to diffuse the situation.
EXACTLY!!
I think something that annoys me a lot was this episode when Mitchell convinced Cam to go to therapy, and out of the blue Cam managed to make years of therapy in one second and the therapist is like "wow, this guy is amazing, come on Mitchell you still need therapy". Even if it was for comedy, it is still weird. Like sure Mitchell needs some therapy, but Cam needs even more. It is crazy to me that they made him so selfish and at the same time, try to convince you that Mitchell is the bad guy.
Also, I think it is weird how we are supposed to support their relationship even if it is crazy unhealthy. The other couples also have some conflict, but for Mitch and Cam, it just seems that they have opposed values to the point you wonder how they even get together in the first place.
They literally say a few times in the show that they got together because they didn't have anyone else to be with.
Lmfao - the laptop episode was one of the best of the series.
Yes! It's definitely one of my favourite episodes.
If Modern Family had ended with Mitch and Cam’s wedding as an hour long special, it might’ve gone down in history as one of the greatest shows of all time.
I really didn’t like at the end after Cam has been a super toxic character the show basically rewards him with a happy ending
Alex going from snarky & sarcastic to cruel & bitter seems like a natural progression from feeling unloved like the black sheep of the family & it seems like she would’ve made herself seem superior to have some kind of self-esteem boost around her family
There are characters like Cameron that become so bad that it'll lead to people believing all gay men are evil... and then there's THAT GUY. If you know who THAT GUY is, you know. If you don't then that's for the better.
That's a DnD reference
@@sonic23233 I did not mean to make a Dungeons & Dragons reference, but thank you lol.
honestly if you were already predisposed to believing that all gay men are evil then it's not the fault of a character on a tv show
If you base your opinion on all gay people off of one bad character, when there is a good gay character in the same show, the problem is on them and not the show writers.
Ooh boy, I could talk about this for ages. In the majority of the episodes in most of the seasons but primarily in the later half, Cam is toxic, controlling, manipulative, and just all-around a bad partner. He treats Mitchell terribly, from diminishing his trauma and belittling him to flat-out not caring when his own mother, Barb, and his sister, Pam, sexually assaulted Mitchell on multiple occasions.
He plays on Mitchell’s abandonment issues (such as keeping a packed suitcase to leave whenever he wants), he mocks Mitchell for not being romantic but scorns him when he does (‘Manny Get Your Gun’ is the biggest example of this), and openly scorns Mitchell for having boundaries (‘The Kiss’ comes to mind, but this happens in almost every episode). Additionally, there are so many scenes where he just appears to not care about Mitchell whatsoever; in ‘The Wild’, for example, when Mitchell is left outside alone in the middle of the woods at night, Cam doesn’t care at all, or in ‘Summer Lovin’ when his only priority is to shove Mitchell back into work rather than help him work through what’s really going on/what he’s struggling with.
The three worst things Cam has done, however, is 1) in s11 when he lied about Mitchell to their friend group and faked a breakup in order to gain sympathy for no reason other than his own ego, something I have had an ex do to me which makes it more personal, 2) in the episode ‘Mother!’ when Cam is shown to have befriended DeDe (who is portrayed as someone who abused Mitchell and Claire!!) and talked shit about Mitchell to her for their entire relationship, and 3) in the episode ‘Grab It’ when Cam forces Mitchell into a role on stage where he is non-consensually kissed by a girl and forces Mitchell to apologize for ‘ruining his play’ afterward.
I won’t even go into detail about the ending of s11 for them, because it makes me SO angry, but Mitchell was forced into that too, even when it was an awful situation that would bring good for no one other than - you guessed it - Cameron.
Some people might say that Mitchell is toxic, too. I wholeheartedly disagree, however. One example is, as previously listed, ‘Manny Get Your Gun’, when Mitchell is part of a flash mob to surprise Cam with a romantic gesture, but Cam is ungrateful and angry and just a douche overall.
When Mitchell tells Cam he is being sensitive, he is one hundred percent correct. On the flip side, when Mitchell is sexually assaulted by Cam’s mother and voices his discomfort to Cam, and Cam calls him sensitive - that is toxic. That is not okay. That is disgusting behavior.
I could go on and on and on about how Mitchell deserves so much better, how Cam is terrible, how the homophobia is so deeply rooted in the show’s writers that they made the one gay couple into one of the most manipulative and toxic relationships I’ve ever seen in media. I could also stress how bad this could be for someone in real life (i.e., ‘my favorite TV couple acts like this and so if my relationship is also like that, it must be healthy!’) or how terrible it is given what we know about Mitchell’s past with shitty boyfriends only to be thrust into this new environment with another toxic partner. But I believe I’ve given enough broad examples to this.
Unfortunately, this really can be blamed on the homophobia of the writers/network and of just bad writing itself; sitcoms often fall apart when going on too long, or relationships lose their charm with the audience. That’s my biggest issue with sitcoms, though- I guarantee that no one was laughing when Cam got angry at Mitchell because Cam’s sister assaulted him.
TLDR: Cam is manipulative and toxic and shitty, which is why I write fanfiction for them. Because Mitchell deserves better, and in the fleeting, rare episodes where Cam sticks to his pilot version rather than an awful partner, he is just as wonderful. Anyways, my UA-cam recommended knows me TOO well.
Alot of sitcoms get mean when they run too long. It's easier writing nasty characters than actually trying to write them as relatable human beings.
How odd "Connection Lost" is consistently named the best episode of the series 😅
It was the best! So creative!
How the hell can you say "Connection Lost" was one of the worst episodes of the show? 🤡 That episode was genius!
I learned working in a restaurant that a "hot minute" can be any length of time so long as it greatly exceeds one minute.
Hated the episode when he dropped Gloria's hot sauce recipe into the water, and had no remorse. Even goes on to control the sauce business etc
The fact that it took 6 seasons for you to consider cam unhealthy for Mitchell makes me fear for people's perceptions of what makes a relationship actually good. Cameron NEVER respected Mitchells boundaries. Cameron ALWAYS played victim and made Mitchell out to be uptight and overly reserved when all Mitchell was expressing was his feelings, setting clear and fair boundaries. Cam lost me when he made him not being on lily's papers because he was literally a fucking flight rick into Mitchell being in the wrong for not signing off his DAUGHTER to the man he wasnt even with for a year yet who already expressed how he was going to leave the second shit got hard. Thats not even mentioning him cheating on Mitchell and going to the Beyonce concert without him in Vegas cause "whatever happens in vegas stays in Vegas." The show has ALWAYS been "Mitchell is wrong and needs to grow" its NEVER called out Cam's worst qualities. It only called out the minor bullshits and never changed them. Nah, im running this shit back. Remember their honeymoon? Cam couldve gotten mitch fired but still played victim
Great video. Another character that God really bad was Manny, he got so annoying it was hard to watch some episodes
Yeah he started off as a bit pretentious but also loving and insightful and turned into a rich spoiled snob.
if the show weren't a comedy, most of the storylines relating to Cam would've fit better in a psychological horror/thriller
I completely agree with what you said. As of the later seasons, he became my second least favorite character after Phil. Only reason why I dislike Phil more is because Phil's stupidity affected a lot of people, not just Claire (like the time where he hurt Luke's eye because his ego was hurt), while Cam's selfish character for the most part only really affected Mitchell. That doesn’t make it any better obviously, but either way, he just has a lot of problems and I am still questioning why the hell they made Mitchell agree to move to Missouri with him. If I were Mitchell, I would divorce him at that point. Mitchell made it sound like Cam made such a great sacrifice by staying in California, but that is BS. Cam initially moved to California out of his own free will, while Mitchell is going to Missouri just for Cam.
I get what you mean, but the fact that Phil is almost pure comic relief saves him for me.
Nah phil is the best character
totally agree with you but Phil was a great Dad and absolutely hilarious as a character. Definitely the best character, chaotic good
Phil is the sweetest character thoughhh. he genuinely cares about his family and tries to make them happy
@@jennysayquack1730Phil was definitely not a great dad. He was just “fun” with his son. He neglected Alex, and his relationship with Hailey is just kinda meh. Showing so much obvious favoritism is bad parenting. Not to mention he made his wife the bear all of the disciplinary responsibility. Being a bad husband makes you a bad parent.
It’s so cool seeing my name at the end of the video. Happy to be part of executive team now.
For some reason, despite liking modern family around the time when it was popular, I still never expected to find a Modern Family critical analysis video on anybody’s channel I already watched
I agree that Cam is insufferable. Before they were engaged I couldn’t understand how the writers were trying to convince us that he and Mitch were good as a couple. They set his character up to be so complex in the best ways but ultimately made him a bitchy, selfish queen.
Man. I didn’t know it got this bad. I stopped watching when Andy became more prominent, so I didn’t get to many of these episodes. Thanks for letting me know I didn’t miss much.
I think Cam is the best example of 'If this were a straight guy you'd despise him'
I always thought he was kind and caring due to his farm upbringing. And the city life was gradually corrupting him, especially that he became a little spoiled by the nicer life, and financial aid by Jay. It made sense to me.
Just saw this video and happy that I'm not the only one that realizes that cam is the worst. I didn't like it when he threw mitch under the bus with his sister than took all the credit when mitch offered her the apartment. Not to mention the episode where cam wasted his theater students time just so mitch would admit that he threw away his clown figurine
Cam was great in season 1, the emotional foil to mitchell. You can see why they are in a relationship. Even season 2
But as it goes on becomes so toxic. Even mitchell becomes a more toxic person
Cameron is worse tho
His own sister doesn't like him. He reminds me of all the adults in my life growing up and I'm afraid to turn into one of them. I will give it a name "the zombie narcissism" and every once in awhile I have to take a zombrex just to feel normal again and ps, no one talks about this but cam reminds me of dede in a way. Given that mitchell claim he had a good relationship with her just proves the old saying "daughters marry their fathers, sons marry their mothers"
well Clair is her father herself until Phil -- just like Haley and That tall guy’s story arc when Andy left the show
@KhmerTarotReading what?
@@faithcyan2462 Clair didn’t marry her father’s alike
cuz phil knocked her up, i think that’s a blessing in disguise
but mitch didn’t escape his fate
very sad to see this character got gaslighted so bad
everything is fine cuz it’s comedy.
Cam was so attached to Lily until “the adoption baby boy” was ON, remember that’s the ending of season 2, so Lily was a neglected since she was like 4 years old.
Cam was addicted to “be a trophy wife” than be the good parent to lily.
Lily was like an abandoned project to Cam.
Mitch… he was a - idk what to say
@KhmerTarotReading oooooh, true. But when I said "daughters marry their fathers and sons marry their mothers"....I was talking about mitch. Because cam and dede (mitch's mom) are alot alike. I wasn't talking about Claire. I was just quoting a saying . That's all. I hope that make sense. I feel bad for Lilly because her parents remind me of my mother. They care about their appearance, so they can be accepted in society. Smoke and mirrors, my friend. Smoke and mirrors. All they care about is their image.
@may you bless with many more healings and blessings dear
After the episode Cam tried to turn Mitchells friend against Mitchell just to see if they'll take his side over Mitchell and tried to manipulate Mitchell into thinking he was in the right. I didn't like him after that and felt sorry for Mitchell
I was watching this in the hospital and realized that after S2 this becomes life action family guy.
im glad people agree that Mitchell can do MUCH MUCH better
2:15
Looking at this scene, season 1 cam would probably freak out about it more than anyone else.
But I really liked modern family overall. The seasons you are talking about are for sure not the best the show has to offer, but i still enjoyed some of the jokes and they had some good moments too.
I feel like the writers of the show had a very specific set of characters in mind when creating the show, and when everyone grew older, they did'nt know what to do with them anymore.
so they added new characters and changed stuff, which made it worse. I guess for a show like this it would be smart to just end it when everyone is grown up.
But even with the flaws, it's a really good show with clever writing most of the time.
Cam is a prancing red flag
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Cam! It seems like the show is always on his side, making Mitchel the bad guy!
It's been a hot minute since I've seen the show but what always sat really wrong with me was the way Cam let his family treat Mitch. Not just his sister (which was horrible enough) but literally all of them. Mitch who had a lot of traumata from his childhood especially because of his sexuality and had to deal with his father's homophobia. It took him such a long time and so much strength to come out and start standing up for himself. But the second it comes to his family, Cam is on their side, defending them, gaslighting Mitch and making him feel guilty for speaking up.
Also, there are in heneral just some awful scences that had me feel so bad for Mitch. Like in the first season when he wasn’t comfortable with being affectionate with Cameron in front of his family and Cam started a public discussion about it in front of everyone?
I've been waiting for this episode
Was anyone else shocked to find out the actor is actually straight?
Nah and who cares anyway?
@@screamingapple6195 I don't it just shocked me as a kid
@@screamingapple6195maybe the interpretation of the character would not have been this caricaturally gay? I don't know, I find the mannerisms more nuanced in Mitch and I can't help wondering if it is because the actor is actually gay that it feels less forced.
i agree ! i was so surprised lmao
Yeah, I loved them but sometimes I felt like their relationship was a little toxic, they were many times arguing with eachother, more than the other families I think; I always loved Mitch and I won't say he was perfect, but he was more mature than Cam, so sometimes I thought, "how are they still together?"
It’s impressive how you’re able to keep my attention when this is a video about a series I have never watched before and have zero interest in watching for the foreseeable future. Great video.
Then why are you watching it?
9:40 She was SUCH an insufferable boy mom that it infuriated me!
if Dede was the Cameron, how dede treated Mitch and Clair.
i wonder how Cam treated lily and their baby boy.
no wonder they delayed their baby adoption till last season
i know this was a late comment. i love modern family even the later seasons i’ve watched the whole show 3 times. but.. why did they move to missouri poor mitchell and lily especially mitchell. he hated hated that town everyone treated him awful. cam at least loved la. they had that beautiful house and the whole family to love their baby rex. justice for mitchell
This ACQ series is always so cathartic.
i remembered years ago before they legalized Gay Marriage
they did that cuz “the world are oblivious to gay relationships”
so they made only gay main couple in the show -- chaotic and kinda stereotypical toxic gay so the “general audience felt digestible”
they did that so” they raised gay awareness”
i still don’t understand the contradictions here 😂❤
Watching the show for the first time through and I’m glad it isn’t something I just noticed, I think it is really telling when Jay turns and says that Mitch married his mother, I think it was season 8 or 9 but it has weirdly gone from slightly over the top antics to Mitch just being put down and manipulated for laughs pretty much any episode they are in now.
Cant wait to see the Community video!❤
Community video?
Also let's be honest. Cam would never bag Mitchel....
I only ever saw Modern Family through YT shorts and clips, so my impression of Cam was "funny character, unlikable person"
You are so talented and amazing.
im so glad i found this video and read the comments because i absolutely hate cam and believe that mitchel deserves sooooo much better, i dont even like cam as a parent. he’s so selfish and manipulative and has zero empathy for his loved ones.
1:54 Do you think you can do an anti character analysis based on Dede from modern family to
TY FINALLY IVE BEEN SAYING CAM IS THE WORST
Yeah.. he really isn’t very nice to Mitchell.
Cam gaslighting Mitch the whole show and we live laugh with him
Great video and great channel.
He's gonna wind up divorced.
yeah. cam's a jerk.
Glad to see I am among intellectual chads. Cam is annoyingly self-centered
Cam was funny asf sometimes, like when he got scared and he passed to sleep 😂
I never finished the series, I just lost interest. This sums up why very well. I wasn’t even aware until I saw this video
I haven’t seen all of modern family I’ve only seen a few episodes though even I can tell it’s quality was going down hill. Also off topic I’ve figured out a perfect name for anti-character quest how about character sidetrack
They don't take requests, sadly.
Cam is always wanted the center of the attraction. End of story. That's how the character written.
Cam gets totally Flanderized after S6 and its super sad.
I always found Cam annoying whenever I watched it. Mitch was fine
I think these changes were supposed be them going through some sort of a phase as a way of character develepmont.
Plan being them getting better as time goes on. (?)
When i tried the show originally, i liked it, but had to stop, because i couldn't stand this guy. Without him, i probably would have finished.
Too be honest, I hated this show as soon as it started but it was watchable at points. Seeing this kinda makes me glad I didn't pick it up
I can’t even understand hating modern family. The first 5 seasons are some of the greatest that sitcom history has to offer.
@@syntheticreality549 I just really couldn't get into it. I hated all the characters and I just couldn't connect
you sound like dylan for some reason.
Eh, the problem overall is that they had no where to go that would keep audience attention. I think it's a bit of a flaw to call him too caring in early episodes, everything he does is really for him and he's never quick to truly understand or help someone else. Even when he's "helping" someone else early on, it's always on his own terms and sense of grandiosity. In later seasons they just got honest about who he was and who people with his personality actually are outside of a contrived sitcom hijink. It was poorly executed, but that's what happens several years into a character who started at 11 and doesn't actually interact with the other characters.
Everything might be true about cam being selfish and cruel in the later seasons but I still find him really funny
Okay yall calling him a soul sucking demon is so dramatic 😭
It's true though he literally sucks the life out of his husband and daughter
@@theplaidbutterflyprince oh shoot I think I missed that episode because I don’t remember him transforming into a demonic creature and stealing his families life force? Which season?
Theres many episodes where hes mean. Faking breakup only for attention, lying about Jay being gay, and he was so annoying in connection lost. @@ilovefrying_pan3001
god i hate him so bad
The connection lost stuff was the point cam really spoiled into shit
I really wished Mitchell and Cam broke up
Midern family
That’s how his character is casted to get be though lol..
Cam didn't ask Claire to get him popcorn in Connection Lost - he asked for Garrett's Chicago Mix purchased fresh in Chicago. I pardon him for this
Why should she stop helping her daughter for some damn Chicago mix
Screw the Mother episode man
Connection Lost is a great episode
This is why I stopped watching the show.
Is there a new video about this or is this a yearly thing?
Cam was one of my favorite characters. He was funny, likable (mostly), and felt like Mitchell needed him to balance him out. After S6 for me it got worse
How did I get here so early?
Cam was bad since season 3 at least lol
Schmidt from new girl
He just got worse as time went on
Boring some dude explaining the plots. Thought it was actual clips
@@leoniemary3850 I can’t be blamed for you mistake.
Keep saying what you like about ned changeing to make the flanderisation trobe I still love him
He is funny tho but I think he is the bottom 3 of my least favourite characters
He made the show the best
Cam just aged backward , personality based
Are u sure ur even like the show? Connection lost is one of the best episodes of the show
that’s what i’m saying
Lilly is worst
Ain’t she a kid?😭
Yeah Mitchell could do better 😅 There was an ex, Mitchell family was dating 😅
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