The episode where Luke mistakenly thinks Claire and Phil are splitting says it all, I think: When Claire assumes that Luke wants to stay with Phil because he is the 'fun parent', and Luke corrects her and says, '... I think dad would need me more....' That small 10 second bit of the scene is so touching, because Luke seems to think that his dad isn't as emotionally strong as his mum and therefore wants to be there for him, but as soon as he says it, Claire tears up herself.
yes! soo true! I loved that ep, cause we ALL were thinking what claire was thinking, but it deconstructed it and gave look more deph and showed claires more vulnarable side!
That actually made me really sad. I always try to be strong. But I think it sometimes leads to people thinking that I don't need comfort or support because I have everything (plus myself) under control.
I really like how this video gives Claire a lot more credit than I felt that she deserved. I always felt that some people would go a little too far when they say Claire doesn't deserve Phil because he's more laidback, more emotionally present and less controlling. But Claire's personality shows that the family needs that kind of personality sometimes to keep things from falling apart.
I like her but she’s kind of a terrible person lmao phil is too but he’s like fake nice tbh but claire is like not nice. She is like a drunk and borderline will cheat on phil if she knew she could get away from it
I love how similar Claire really is to Haley, even though they couldn't be more different on the outside. Claire dated a lot of guys before meeting Phil, more predominantly her high school boyfriend who hasn't matured since he was a teenager. Haley's boyfriend Dylan is similar. In both cases, Claire and Haley get sick of dating jerk guys, and fall for sweethearts like Phil and Andy.
Totally agree, even the unexpected pregnancy of Hailey was right in line with Claire's history. Goes to show that parents are often the biggest predictor of how kids will end up
I thought they made reference to Alex being like Claire too as the one to hold the family together. What I didn't like is how they swereved away from Luke being like Phil.
In that episode were Phil accidentally pushes Claire over because he's focusing on another woman, it makes me so annoyed. She never gets an "I'm sorry", instead her entire family makes her feel crazy and like she has to prove what happened because no one believes her.
I've always felt that the comparison people give between Claire and Gloria to be unfair, sure Gloria is very fun and loving but she's not dealing with 3 growing kids who all have so different personalities and needs. Claire is very open to her kids, she gives them the support they need and is trying very hard to not have the same the relationship she had with her parents especially her mother with her kids. I also appreciated how she opted to go back to work after the kids were all grown up showing them it's OK to change your life however many times you want if you need to and that time she tried running for office she showed them its OK to take chances. The person who I feel wasn't given much attention on the show was Alex, especially as she got older. Luke and Manny were given more showtime and as they got older their stories also kinda became drab. (Edit) re-watching this breakdown a year later, I really wish the show gave us more of the relationship between Claire & Alex, they both have very similar personalities, perfectionist, hardworking, obsessive, nitty picky, very methodical and straight minded in their approach to things & you can see their similarities as Alex comes into her own, she is very much her mother's child. Claire is to Alex what DeeDee wasn't to her, instead of competing with her she encourages her to be her powerful self
I think Claire's tendences to "crush" Phils dreams and beeing sometimes cruel are similar to how Mitchel acts with Cam. They both were raised in unhelathy environment as kids and took a lot from Jay, even tho Mitch was not so close with him. The only reason why Mitch and Jay did not act THAT cruel, because their partners are less emotionally developed and sometimes over-react. So in order to keep peace in home, Mitch and Jay try to not upset their partners that often, while Phil are the one who often does not mentioned when he is hurt. Hence, Claire does not have a tendency to keep some things for herself. And all of Pritchets were ctisized for that kind of behaviour, for example, in episode, where Cam, Phil and Gloria turned out to have some sort of allianes to hide their mistakes from Pritchets.
@TJ c'mon, she did say cruel things sometimes even when it was not needed. I get that Claire had to be a bad cop in order to keep everyone alive, but sometimes she overreacted
@@chloekrol7152 tbf not even for keeping Phil alive but constantly being together with someone that is this childish can be a mental strain. Overreaction on ur observation for me is her way of expressing frustrations.
Why did you put crush I quotations? She dud crush them, Phil is a dreamer and she tries to stop him from dreamer as a dreamer myself I find it annoying and mean Also the fact they feel that they need to hide the fact that they make mistakes from they're SOs is problematic, they should be allowed to make mistakes with out being ridiculed
I love how the show was so literal with their portrayals of the “Modern Family”. We got to see families where common tropes were flipped on their head. A masculine mother, a age-gap couple and a homosexual couple, with a different race daughter.❤️ I love shows and movies that bring stigmas/things you haven’t thought about, to the main stage…feels very humanizing
Claire is underrated. She had to raise 4 kids (including Phil lol) and Julie Bowen’s reactions to the crazy situations they find themselves in are hilarious
@RUR Nope, if you gotta stop someone from dying and manage their affairs that is not the role of a child. Stay-at-home mothers do a lot of "work"-- or else, why would dishwashers, maids, and nannies be 3 separate full-time careers? Also, both bring in income (Claire was working and invested money she saved up prior to motherhood, then went back to work; Phil has also had bouts of working/making little income in the past). They are balanced in my mind because they contribute equally to the family structure-- both are necessary.
I wonder how people would feel if someone said "he had to raise his wife like she was his child". They'd probably call it sexist. Why do people react differently when it is the husband being called the child?
@@greywolf7577 It's not sexist if it's true. I don't think it is for Phil and Claire, but plenty of women "raise" their husbands and are seen as responsible if anything happens to them. (Ex: Have you ever heard anyone ask why a man didn't make sure his wife took her meds when she was sick? Or, why he didn't do her laundry when she was busy?
*TROPE SUGGUESTIONS:* *-The Fallen Woman Trope:* Specifically, how it contrasts with the Fallen Man trope. When a male character goes down a dark path, he's treated with sympathy, like his tragic fate was inevitable (i.e. Walter White, Michael Corleone, Macbeth). But when it's a woman (i.e. Anne Boleyn, Lillith, Britney Spears) the attitude is always "Well you had this coming, b*tch." *-The Sibling Rivalry Trope* (examples: Thor/Loki, Cain/Abel, Zuko/Azula) *-The Weird Boy Trope:* There's a duality to this trope. On the positive side, you have characters who contrast with toxic masculinity like Edward Scissorhands or Jughead Jones. On the negative side you have incel-like characters who perpetuate it like Mark from The Social Network or Martin in Love, Simon. *The Trainwreck Trope* (examples: Marissa Cooper from The O.C., Amy Schumer's movie of the same name, etc.)
That's because Phill make sure she will not cross her line with them, We seen it on multiple occasions Phill had to stop her or at least slow her down when she was about to do something extreme. Remember when she was allowing Haley to go out with a grown man? Just to teach her a lesson (by the way she was going on all about her hunch.) That's not good parenting, That girl was already the lowest point of her life and felt like everyone in her family hates her including her dad who she loves the most. At that time it's not suitable let's say ignore your child.
The mother does not get to be the fun parent. That is the same as most stereotypical mothers who are not like Claire. Most shows do not allow the mother to be the fun parent.
This is what worries me about being a Mom. I have ADHD and people have compared me to Phil before I even watched the show because of my personality, and I’m a woman! I’m worried that because mother’s tend to be automatically expected to be more responsible, my personality would be less fun for the kids (the way it would be if I had the expectations of a father) but instead stressful and annoying since as a woman my role is to be more meticulous. If I’m bad at keeping track of those kinds of things, who else will? Men often just don’t take care of certain things in relationships but because of how my brain is wired I’m worried I wouldn’t be able to step up (I can’t be someone I’m not.) Hopefully whoever marries me knows what he’s getting into, but since we do sort of expect certain things from women, I’m worried it would be fun just us but after having kids he might feel like I’m “failing” some motherhood standard (that men with my same personality don’t really get held to.) It’s part of why I’m nervous about having kids.
Thank you for this video! Obviously, Phil is every modern family fan's favorite and for some reason Claire got so much hate, which I neither understood nor did Think she deserved... Phil is the "fun" parent, the one who lets you do anything you want but the reality is that children need to know that not every behavior is okay and someone HAS to show them that. With Phil acting like another sibling to his kids, Claire was kind of forced to be the "party popper" in the family
after rewatching modern family many many times i began disliking phil. don't get me wrong he is still funny and charming. BUT by being this goofy manchild he forced claire to be the bad cop. She basically had no choice. Someone had to parent. + i don't like his exaggerated admiration of gloria
@@jj.b.goode. This is the reason why I can't stand Cam. He has great moments but everybody around him has to walk on eggshells, he throws tantrums and constantly guilt trips Mitch.
Modern family did some really cool things in the dynamics of the family. Dede is clearly a narcissist, and the show repeatedly shows how badly it harmed both Clare and Mitchell. And it even has the more old school toxic masculine Jay soften and learn some healthy masculinity
Jay is a boomer man and i think it was having that second chance as a parent thru Manny that he softened -yes, away from Dede the narcissistic partner.
There is nothing healthy about masculinity. Male genes are dying off due to their “masculinity”. Felinity has time and time again to be the superior trait.
Jay is the best character true responsible men loving and taking care of everyone despite being against of what he believes he still shows support and the reason. He didn't divorce dede was for his kids as he mentioned it in episode if it wasn't for Jay no one would succeed at anything
@@dhruvbhatnagar4180 I do get what Shelly kinda getting it, because it was definitely popular with gen-x and younger boomers, which the number of Emmy winning shows were at that time (except for maybe Breaking Bad, that was everyone) It is finally having its turn getting recognized by millennials and gen-z (who a lot are seeing themselves in the kids of that show) But yeah it was an exceedingly popular show at the time overall
i love claire. i love how interesting and fully fleshed out the pritchett family dynamic is- dede’s narcissism and jay’s emotional constipation- it’s all so clear in claire and mitchell’s characters.
My main problem with Modern Family is that there are just too many jokes about how attractive Gloria is compared to Claire, and she's just not more attractive. It's grating after a while.
It also annoys me that Phil has a huge fetish for black women but wants Claire for emotional reasons. It's also grating to think, you're an attractive woman but you're just not your husband's main type, but he just happened to fall for you. His desire for claire is always emotional & "she's my best friend".
@@maheenm.k1015 nahhh just binged the series and he talks about how sexy she is a lot. And usually he’s never directly comparing Gloria and Claire. He’s just moreso hounding Gloria
I like how they show Claire as the opposite of a stereotype mom. Not all mom are loving, emotional or nurturing, but that doesn’t make them a bad/horrible mom. They just have more masculine traits & that’s _totally_ okay.
@@ninjanibba4259 It is okay! we need to move away from archaic views on relationships, she can have more masculine traits in the same way that Phil can have more feminine traits, that is their dynamic and it works for them
@@ninjanibba4259 Discussing Masculine traits in women doesn't mean that women are men. By masculine traits I mean traits that are traditionally more expected or assigned to men,being competitive, assertive, protective etc.are usually said to be masculine traits , something like being nurturing , emotional, intuitive are traditionally more feminine traits, in reality though, these traits exist in both men and women on a spectrum, different personalities can mean that women can have more masculine traits or men more feminine traits, it's more about individuals than it is about their gender and a balance can still exist in relationship if the individual personalities are not aligned to the traditional norm.
@@bstep518 without the traditional norm, then whomever leading the household is in question and the next thing you know the woman starts telling the man what to do and it stays that way cuz HE is the one being submitted, in what way is that normal? The man leading the household is what is meant to be, I’m pretty sure if a robber comes around, the kids aren’t gonna look to the mother to protect them The “norm” is subjective and wrong, especially when it hurts the household and children by any means
Another example of a perfect "husband wife" to me is Lynette Scavo from Desperate Housewives. Just like Claire, Lynette was a very driven woman who had a high powered job before she married her husband Tom (who just like Phil is laid back and chill, if not a little dopey) and they started a family. Very much like Claire, Lynette resents being a homemaker especially since she has to take care of her three sons and a daughter all by herself and they are a real hand-full. Throughout the first season of Desperate Housewives, Lynette has to take care of her troublesome kids while also missing her days as a rising executive. But in later seasons she does go back to work and turns out to be a much better breadwinner than her husband Tom.
Claire is probably an ESTJ or something and Phill is an ENFP. And I love that we see more feeler man represented and thinker woman. Because in real life these type of couples excists too. People often fall for qualities they don't have themselves so no mather the sexist stereotypes we had been shown in patriarchy about how woman want very masculine man and men want very feminine woman.
My husband says Claire is my spirit animal, I found my Phil and I couldn’t ask for anyone more supportive and understanding. I am about to be a stay at home Mom, we have worked our butts off to have this opportunity. Working Moms and stay at home Moms are all badasses because at the end of the day what matters is that you want what’s best for your kids and you provide for them.
Interesting video :) As much as Phil is much better than a lot of TV Dads and is a good guy, I think he's a bit overrated as he's a nice Dad but I wouldn't say he's Jake Peralta levels of dream husband/Dad as Jake ended up being the one to make the big sacrifice by giving up his career for their kid. Phil also made some kinda disrespectful comments about Claire and didn't really hide his attraction to Gloria or other women he found attractive and it got a little frustrating that Claire always had to apologise and talk about how great Phil was when she got him some truly amazing gifts, like the acrobats performance and the magic shop/magic trick.
@@Eimear-vn9hx thank you !! Plus there’s this episode where he teaches Luke super sexist clichés about periods and at the end of the episode the girls apologize to him for being annoying 💀 I mean Phil is lovely but he is so often portrayed as « the good guy » that the show often forget to point out his flaws and mistakes
Yes, omg, you're so right, Phil really got on my nerves in the period episode when he spoke in a stereotypical way and made it seem that they'd ruined leap day for him and they still made it up to/apologised to him?! It's a good show but I didn't really like that plot at all and Phil's kinda overrated.
In TV shows, normally it is the wife that insults the husband and this is played for laughs. Why can't we have the reverse of that sometimes? Wives on TV get away with flirting with other men more than husbands do. And it is usually the husband that talks about how great the wife is and gets her gifts. It is ironic how all of these things that are seen as normal for husbands are seen as insulting toward the wife when things are flipped.
finally some claire appreciation! ive always hated it when people say that phil deserved better and whatever. truth be told, claire could've done better. phil is always thirsting over other women and could barely handle the three kids by himself. meanwhile, claire has to handle four people with very different personalities and needs on the daily, but people just skip over that over and over again. they just hate her bc just like what the video says, she's a woman with traditionally masculine qualities. grow tf up.
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My mum is a homemaker but she is not typical housewife.. She moves big heavy furnitures around, fixes plumbing issues, can handle social stressful situations better than my dad, can handle kids etc.
i mean a new washer/drier shouldnt be a gift, it should be something she's entitled to since she's a stay at home mom and its part of her job. She should have gotten both a wahser/dryer to make her job easier, and an actual gift for personal pleasure (if not a ring then something she might actually like, like a vacation)
Yeah that's how I feel about the engagement and wedding it has become so materialistic when it has nothing to do with the marriage. I rather spend that money building our future, but to each its own
There's this episode, where the 3 families about to catch up, with Claire and Mitchell rushing their families out the door. Cam says to Mitch, "ugh your such a Pritchet". Mitch goes, "what's that supposed to mean?" And then it cuts to Jay rushing his family out the door 😂 My Grandad was in the army so of course he, my Mum and I are all highly strung people. We love quoting that episode because it's relatable AF
Phil isnt the bread winning lol he’s actually makes less then claire and the only reason why they live in that house is bc claire asked her father to buy it. Jay is the real bread winner everyone takes his money but Mitchell
While watching Modern Family I could not stop thinking about how attractive Claire was. Then one of my friend pointed out that she looks and acts kind of like my mother. Later on therapy turned out I have a huge mom issues. That's exmplained everything. (Btw, thanks for this video! Hope to see more Modern Family analyses from the Take)
What I disliked about this show is how it treated the women much worse than the guys in terms of judging them, and you can see this with how the audience treats them as well Phil does shtty things constantly but its always played off as harmless and funny, but if claire makes a mistake or acts badly then the whole episode is about that flaw and how she needs to grow from it. Claire objectively is a better parent and partner than Phil, but they still work well together and yet you have people saying that Phil deserves better? The same phil that flirts with other women, including his wife's step mom, constantly. And the same Phil that puts all the pressure of being the responsible parent on Claire all the time? This also happens with Gloria, but to a lesser extent. At the very least they portray Jay as being a better husband than PhiI. And Jay often goes out of his way and out of his comfort zone for GIoria and manny, which you rareIy see with PhiI
Yeah but the things Phill do is harmless and the motive behind his action always not to hurt anyone, which can not be said for her. Also she to flirt and that to front of his face without giving him respect, remember fireman episode? And better partner, Please if not for the Phill she would have been divorce at least twice. And what about She being a strict parent? Phill is best strict parent and she worst fun parent, We seen it, she over do fun while hill make sure that even when they have fun they are safe. Phill over do stricness while she knows when to pull the plug
Claire was an excellent character. I love how vitalized she got as a mom after getting back into the work force. I want to add that I always thought Phil was very in touch with his emotions and hence able to bond with everyone on a great level. Something that Jay has envied about him from time to time. Modern family's portrayal of both the Dunphy parents was excellent and got me happy crying a lot.
I swear she is so much like my mom! Analytical, awkward with emotions, practical. Only my dad being as emotional as he is, didn't take on a motherly role either, feeling awkward about it as well and saying "you should go to your mom for this". Unfortunately they couldn't find a way to make it work between them and separated when I was 12. One thing I acknowledge is that thanks to them (and others in my family) I've grown up not believing in any kind of gender stereotypes.
The Take, I love what you guys are doing. Could you please do a video on this topic? The Pregnant Woman trope in the horror genre, such as: Women getting impregnated by aliens. Women turning into bloated hives for alien reproduction. A woman giving birth to a demonic child. A woman carrying a baby for an evil cult. Even men getting impregnated by an otherworldly seductress. Misogynist, sexist, rape culture, shock horror or just pushing a fear of aliens and demons? Alien vs Predator: Requiem and Slither are all levels of wrong. Don't forget about Buffy The Vampire Slayer and The X-Files. (For anyone who reads this, I would like to know your thoughts)
Buffy the vampire slayer did soooo many things right. i admit that the show wasn't perfect all the way but it has something that makes it one of THE best teen shows which can be enjoyed by all groups. Buffy Anne summers isn't the stereotypical annoying female protagonist but she is relatable - in a way. not all of us randomly discover that we are the chosen one but we could relate to her troubles more than often. she goes through bullying, struggle, love, heartbreak, depression, loss and DEATH!? i may not be very fond of Dawn but i liked some parts of their relationship which i think many siblings might relate. they are kinda annoyed of each other, they are in different stages of life but they surely know when they need each other. her mom is one of the best depictions of TV mom. now coming to the Scooby gang, EVERY SINGLE ONE had a perfect character arc. yes, Xander might fall into the trope of male gaze, but it was the 90s and let's be honest, once he saved the whole world and then in the last season he saved what was left of sunnydale - the protectors. we saw willow go from a shy stereotypical nerd to transform into one of if not THE powerful witches and a goddess. we saw her process her grief. sometimes it was painful and other times she failed to distinguish between right and wrong. we also saw willow fall into the greed of greater power. and discovering her sexuality was quite sweet. these things made her relatable to me. Giles was the father Buffy never had. Angel was sweet and protective, Angelus was terrifying and a good villian, dark Angel was compelling ( i know it was on angel, another great show for a mature audience, but as long as it is in the buffyverse, imma consider it). Now let's talk about Cordelia chase. her character arc was a treat to watch especially when she used to let guard down and not be mean to others. Wesley was good too. Faith's arc made me root for her in a way i never imagined i could. Spike is the OG bad boy. drusilla and Darla are excellent villains too. let's talk about storylines. i love how it was a running gag that most of the time Giles would be a victim of any monster of the week. which brings me to my next. the show depicted most of our struggles with the monsters as metaphors but never lost its humour. there were some bad and very bad plots but the tone and the main characters, except Riley and that professor, made it fun and bearable. Coming to the cast, it was a treat to watch all of them grow and mature as actors throughout the season. P. S. i didn't include anyone else from Angel because none of them were directly connected to our heroine, the one and only *BUFFY ANNE SUMMERS* .
It's just that women get pregnant, so the writers ask "what would happen if some alien or demon impregnated them". It's as simple as that. It isn't an attempt to disrespect real women. It's just a story telling device.
It's body horror. "A common difference in the body horror genre is that violations or distortions of the body are rarely the result of immediate or initial violence. Instead, they are generally marked by a loss of conscious control over the body through mutation, disease, or other tropes involving uncontrolled transformation.[7] The genre can invoke intense feelings of physical and psychological disgust, or squick, and play upon anxieties of physical vulnerability.[8] In addition to common tropes used within the broader horror genre, some tropes specific to the body horror subgenre may include invasion, contagion, mutation, transformation, disease, mutilation, or other unnatural or violent distortions of the human body. "
Claire reminds me a lot of my own mother, they even look similar. Both my parents have always worked (that’s the norm in my country) and my mom is absolutely the more dominant figure compared to my dad, who isn’t as childish as phil but still playful and i think more in tune with other people’s emotions than my mom might be sometimes. She’s also incredibly solution oriented, like Claire, and i saw a lot of the same dynamics in her relationship with haley which we had too. I just love that the show allows Claire to 1) not be a very ”natural” parent, showing that motherhood is something that needs to be learned and 2) be dominant without being demonised for it. Both Claire and Gloria are like that in some ways, even if gloria’s dominance is more stereotypical, and i love that Claire’s behaviour is called out when it needs to be, but also shown to be her way of expressing love through trying to be protective and guiding.
Just a reminder that there's no father, mother, wife or husband role. Gender in of itself has no impact on a parent's or partner's personality or abilities. We may often categorise behaviours as being motherly or fatherly, "wifey" or "husbandy"... but in the end - there's no real basis for those ideas. They only exist as concepts because we say they do. There's just people, who they are and what they do. Remember that humans are far too complex and interesting to fit on a binary scale! :)
Absolutely! My husband and I are both mechanical engineers, both career-orientented people. We both fix things around the house and love building and experimenting. We don't fall into "traditional" roles
Can I add to that that the person making more money is not necessarily the "one in charge", or the one that "has more power". I really dislike the notion that one person has to be superior to the other in some way.
Everything you just said is wrong and why society is messed up in the way of thinking Gender roles exist for a reason and why our children need to look upon the correct examples of the way of living instead of worldview lifestyles, it’s why people these days don’t understand what love is or how to pursue it straightforwardly
This is such a great video! I have always loved Claire, and I'm suspicious of any "feminist" who hates her because "idk she's just kind of annoying"/"she's a nag".
It's not Phill can't be man of the house, We all seen if he tried how dominating and powerful he can be, But he just let her take comtrol as like batman once he started he didn't know where to stop.
Update I started watching Modern Family. I like it. and I like Claire. I love the moment when Haley is drunk after lying to Claire and instead of shouting at her and scalding her for doing what she did, Clair just comforts her daughter and helps her sober up and feels better. That's what makes you a mother. Those little moments.
So y’all have done Gloria & Claire, I’m guessing Cam’s next and how he’s both a stereotypical gay as well as the macho one in their relationship/family.
This is perfect timing since I just started rewatching Modern Family 😊. The timeline is kind of weird/there are some continuity errors with the references to Claire and Phil’s relationship. In either season 1 or 2 they mention that they eloped at the court house when Claire was about 4 months pregnant. Based on Haley’s age in show she would’ve been born in December 1993, and that means they would’ve gotten married in July 1993. In season 5, Phil says that he proposed in March 1994? I’m guessing the writers forgot and accidentally messed up the dates. Either way, I love Modern Family and it’s one of my all time favorite shows.
The first season or two are a little off too because the other characters are constantly saying that Claire is uptight or a nag, but we don't see those behaviors.
I have sometimes accused The Take, though always interesting, of being too orthodox and unnuanced in their feminism--like when they suggest that "...we can't help feeling vicariously empowered watching "Gone Girl"'s Amy Dune frame and murder people"… (With that I DON'T Agree!) But I think with this video they got a really nice, nuanced balance. They are laying out a narrative that creates room for women to be more "masculine" in some ways and for men to be more "feminine" in some ways; without trying to generalize that or simply reverse the enforced rules of the sexes. (Or deny statistically likely differences.) They are basically speaking in favor of letting everyone play from their strengths and acknowledging that everyone is different and has different talents. Some men have talents that are traditionally thought of as feminine and that doesn't make them less of a man--and vice versa for women. It's not just reversing the roles as some kind of payback centuries of sexism. It's *Actually* trying to create a world where people can be three dimensional, real human beings...
Honestly, i get why Claire is the way she is, with her parents issues, her low self esteem when it came to having Gloria as step mother, and her child-like husband, on top of raising teenagers... That's a lot for one person.
I think Modern Family highlighted very well with Claire how unfair it is that the traditionally female role of the family nurturer also comes with the obligation to take all the parts of parenthood that are 1. not fun at all and 2. make you the strict/not fun/bad parent. This starts with making sure the kids eat healthy (and not too much "fun" foods like fast food and candy) to disciplining bad behaviour and being in charge of the household running smoothly. It's an incredibly exhausting and unthankful role. Also, many people seem not to understand that Phil is able to be so laid back and fun not despite but BECAUSE of Claire being the high-strung, disciplined one. You could see that in the episode where they switched roles and suddenly Phil had to be the strict parent, he completely swung to the other extreme by not letting the children eat before they didn't finish their chores. I wish The Take would also do a video about Alex. She is perfectionist and ambitious to an extent that way overtakes Claire and therefore also very high-strung because she constantly overworks herself. Especially when she gets older, that leads to her family highly relying on her to take on an authorative leading role and keep the family on track while at the same time labelling her the not-fun/bummer one. Because she is an overperformer, she is not just expected to be fine on her own (i.e. needing less focus and support that Haley and Luke) but also to take responsibility for her family in a way that she's actually far too young for.
YEEESSSS!!! U listen to us!! more Modern Family Characters!! Do HAILEY!!!! I will die on this hill, until you do! her transformation is amazing!!! Also in general what Modern Family teaches!! BUT THANK U FOR THIS TWO!
Thank you so much for this analysis and all of your hard work! Would you consider to do an analysis on Cameron Diaz character Elizabeth in “Bad Teacher”? This movie is one of my all-time favourite comedies, mostly because of Cameron performance. Even though in real life we would hate a person that acted like her character but at the same time I really liked her uniqueness in comparison with how women are usually portrayed in movies made by man, which makes her character refreshing. She is kind of like Charlize Theron character in “Young Adult” but if it was a comedy.
Claire was often overly criticized while Phil was overly praised. Phil was often emotionally manipulative with his family, but it was portrayed as endearing because Ty Burrell is very likable. There was an episode where he put the family’s picture on a van to advertise himself as a realtor. It ended up making Hayley and Claire look like prostitutes, but it was wrong even before that because he was taking away the privacy of his wife and kids. Then, on the way to Manny’s birthday when Hayley and Alex said that they didn’t want to go to family camp, Phil started crying. It was framed as endearing, but Phil emotionally manipulated Hayley and Alex into doing something they hated. Of course, he also tried to push Luke Toto becoming a magician when he no longer wanted to do that. And when he was in the hospital, he tried to make Claire feel guilty about getting dressed for the firemen while he himself was flirting with women. Both Claire and Phil are flawed, but Claire’s flaws are framed as unlike able while Phil’s emotional manipulations are framed as endearing.
I tell people all the time I rather be the dad than the mom. My husband loves being at home but sadly even though I work my butt off, me making tons of money is difficult because people still don’t offer equal pay.
One of the most underrated moments of the show is when Luke writes Claire is her hero and makes her recognize the lens her kids sees her through. All the moments when Alex asks her to be unabashedly herself and Haley being scared to tell her that she is pregnant, and Ben and Dylan being scared of her approval shows a lot about her strong personality, which I absolutely love about her. Women get a lot of hate if they portray any of these characters (which Claire is getting too.) but at least writers were not scared to stick to.
Modern Family is one of those shows I genuinely feel I would enjoy but I just never get round to watching it. I dunno what it is but something just puts me off.
I'm going to be so sad soon when I've watched all your videos because they manage to be truth telling and critical while also being fun and funny and lighthearted. I'll just have to binge them all again 💕
It's always been that way for the most part. The guy's traditional role was just brings in the money that keeps the lights on, possibly working numerous jobs into a heart attack in their mid to late 50s depending on the situation. I grew up around plenty of family where the dads would always been in the back room sleeping when you came over because he just came off a shift or has another one lined up in a few hours and needed a nap. That's where the joke of "ask your mother" came from. The dad didn't care because he's not the one with the money anyway. It's the family's money for the wife to control. Flash forward to today and guys regularly joke about asking wives for permission to buy fishing poles or a motorcycle to take out in the weekends. The wives hardly ever joke because it's their money now in the first place.
@5:18 They mention that it is strange for Claire to feel the need to explain herself to being a stay at home mom even though it is common in the 90’s and now. Although, traditional roles would support women being stay at home housewives, our modern society and women do not. (Of course, I am not saying all women feel this way) My parents are similar to Claire and Phil. She is strong, intelligent, practical and independent. Throughout the 90’s and even now, people have passed judgment that she took on the role as a stay at home mom. Movies such as “I don’t know how she does it” and “The Intern” reference the judgments on the “working mom”. But in general, there is judgment for either roles. We are still cultivating and evolving as a society to be more aware of the struggles of motherhood. The choice to work/not work has to fit what is best for the family. It would be interesting to see a discussion of Claire from Modern Family and Lynette from Desperate Housewives.
Claire was always one of my favorites. i don’t understand why people can’t understand her character more. i feel like i really understand her and i love her. she was a boss. period.
huh, (it's still up to The Take to make a video essay on it) now I'm wondering about the deadbeat dad trope(at most where did it originate from, not just which characters qualify for the definition)
I always loved Claire, I am very sarcastic and bossy, and I always enjoyed watching her. I think the show was super good at balancing characters as I loved ALL of them.
Jay is the best character on the show then Claire for being responsible supportive loving characters doing things for their loved ones against their beliefs and holding all the family together
The episode where Luke mistakenly thinks Claire and Phil are splitting says it all, I think:
When Claire assumes that Luke wants to stay with Phil because he is the 'fun parent', and Luke corrects her and says, '... I think dad would need me more....'
That small 10 second bit of the scene is so touching, because Luke seems to think that his dad isn't as emotionally strong as his mum and therefore wants to be there for him, but as soon as he says it, Claire tears up herself.
yes! soo true! I loved that ep, cause we ALL were thinking what claire was thinking, but it deconstructed it and gave look more deph and showed claires more vulnarable side!
Which episode?
also '' we made our daddy cry!!!'' I cried even tho Im a orphan
Ikr! That 10 second scene made me a wreck
That actually made me really sad. I always try to be strong.
But I think it sometimes leads to people thinking that I don't need comfort or support because I have everything (plus myself) under control.
I really like how this video gives Claire a lot more credit than I felt that she deserved. I always felt that some people would go a little too far when they say Claire doesn't deserve Phil because he's more laidback, more emotionally present and less controlling. But Claire's personality shows that the family needs that kind of personality sometimes to keep things from falling apart.
True. Phil is a great dad but he is too naive and childish, even Luke points this out a lot
Yeah if anything claire is out of phil's league
@@botanicalitus4194 that's also going too far
@@botanicalitus4194 Yeah, we are doing to much now. No one is out of league here. They clearly match each other well.
@@christiner4213 ALLOWED, PHIL IS 🤪 CRAZY.
Remember when Phil and Claire switched roles. Phil was a tyrant
Claire gets unnecessary hate. She's a wonderfully fleshed out character.
Most of the people that I've seen hate on her are guys mad that she's not another sex object character like Gloria.
The way she treated Gloria in the earlier seasons was quite distasteful tho 💀
Her racism was bad
I absolutely love Claire. She's awesome.
I like her but she’s kind of a terrible person lmao phil is too but he’s like fake nice tbh but claire is like not nice. She is like a drunk and borderline will cheat on phil if she knew she could get away from it
I love how similar Claire really is to Haley, even though they couldn't be more different on the outside. Claire dated a lot of guys before meeting Phil, more predominantly her high school boyfriend who hasn't matured since he was a teenager. Haley's boyfriend Dylan is similar. In both cases, Claire and Haley get sick of dating jerk guys, and fall for sweethearts like Phil and Andy.
Haley ends up with Dylan though
@@lindsay2268 haley should've ended up with andy and i will stand by that
@@bharathi2128 They couldn't get the actor of Andy back. He had started a new show
Totally agree, even the unexpected pregnancy of Hailey was right in line with Claire's history. Goes to show that parents are often the biggest predictor of how kids will end up
I thought they made reference to Alex being like Claire too as the one to hold the family together. What I didn't like is how they swereved away from Luke being like Phil.
In that episode were Phil accidentally pushes Claire over because he's focusing on another woman, it makes me so annoyed. She never gets an "I'm sorry", instead her entire family makes her feel crazy and like she has to prove what happened because no one believes her.
I hated this
Came here to say this! That episode makes me so angry for Claire.
True. All that gaslighting was so annoying! It reminded me of a lot of real-life scenarios in relationships.
In my head they were more judging the Jay side of her than her, herself.
i hate Phil in general
I've always felt that the comparison people give between Claire and Gloria to be unfair, sure Gloria is very fun and loving but she's not dealing with 3 growing kids who all have so different personalities and needs. Claire is very open to her kids, she gives them the support they need and is trying very hard to not have the same the relationship she had with her parents especially her mother with her kids. I also appreciated how she opted to go back to work after the kids were all grown up showing them it's OK to change your life however many times you want if you need to and that time she tried running for office she showed them its OK to take chances. The person who I feel wasn't given much attention on the show was Alex, especially as she got older. Luke and Manny were given more showtime and as they got older their stories also kinda became drab.
(Edit) re-watching this breakdown a year later, I really wish the show gave us more of the relationship between Claire & Alex, they both have very similar personalities, perfectionist, hardworking, obsessive, nitty picky, very methodical and straight minded in their approach to things & you can see their similarities as Alex comes into her own, she is very much her mother's child. Claire is to Alex what DeeDee wasn't to her, instead of competing with her she encourages her to be her powerful self
I used to think Gloria was hot - then I realized she could be a Victoria's Secret model. 😮
I think Claire's tendences to "crush" Phils dreams and beeing sometimes cruel are similar to how Mitchel acts with Cam. They both were raised in unhelathy environment as kids and took a lot from Jay, even tho Mitch was not so close with him. The only reason why Mitch and Jay did not act THAT cruel, because their partners are less emotionally developed and sometimes over-react. So in order to keep peace in home, Mitch and Jay try to not upset their partners that often, while Phil are the one who often does not mentioned when he is hurt. Hence, Claire does not have a tendency to keep some things for herself. And all of Pritchets were ctisized for that kind of behaviour, for example, in episode, where Cam, Phil and Gloria turned out to have some sort of allianes to hide their mistakes from Pritchets.
@TJ c'mon, she did say cruel things sometimes even when it was not needed. I get that Claire had to be a bad cop in order to keep everyone alive, but sometimes she overreacted
@@chloekrol7152 i mean this is a sitcom so
@@chloekrol7152 tbf not even for keeping Phil alive but constantly being together with someone that is this childish can be a mental strain. Overreaction on ur observation for me is her way of expressing frustrations.
@@Ummmmmmmm841 "childish" is a word boring people call fun people
Why did you put crush I quotations? She dud crush them, Phil is a dreamer and she tries to stop him from dreamer as a dreamer myself I find it annoying and mean
Also the fact they feel that they need to hide the fact that they make mistakes from they're SOs is problematic, they should be allowed to make mistakes with out being ridiculed
I love how the show was so literal with their portrayals of the “Modern Family”. We got to see families where common tropes were flipped on their head. A masculine mother, a age-gap couple and a homosexual couple, with a different race daughter.❤️
I love shows and movies that bring stigmas/things you haven’t thought about, to the main stage…feels very humanizing
Imagine if Phil were black, the show would have been 10x better
@@Chris-rg6nm no
I don't understand why people support this ultra feminist video.
@@rodomantade it wouldn’t be worse, it just probably wouldn’t be that much better.
It panders to a white audience and Sofia Vergara is literally just playing a stereotype and so is Cam but other than that I like the show
Claire is underrated. She had to raise 4 kids (including Phil lol) and Julie Bowen’s reactions to the crazy situations they find themselves in are hilarious
@RUR if your idea of raising a child and parenthood are solely based on financial support you ought to consider a vasectomy.
@RUR Nope, if you gotta stop someone from dying and manage their affairs that is not the role of a child. Stay-at-home mothers do a lot of "work"-- or else, why would dishwashers, maids, and nannies be 3 separate full-time careers?
Also, both bring in income (Claire was working and invested money she saved up prior to motherhood, then went back to work; Phil has also had bouts of working/making little income in the past). They are balanced in my mind because they contribute equally to the family structure-- both are necessary.
@@harmonyae7033
I wonder how people would feel if someone said "he had to raise his wife like she was his child". They'd probably call it sexist. Why do people react differently when it is the husband being called the child?
@@greywolf7577 It's not sexist if it's true. I don't think it is for Phil and Claire, but plenty of women "raise" their husbands and are seen as responsible if anything happens to them. (Ex: Have you ever heard anyone ask why a man didn't make sure his wife took her meds when she was sick? Or, why he didn't do her laundry when she was busy?
*TROPE SUGGUESTIONS:*
*-The Fallen Woman Trope:* Specifically, how it contrasts with the Fallen Man trope. When a male character goes down a dark path, he's treated with sympathy, like his tragic fate was inevitable (i.e. Walter White, Michael Corleone, Macbeth). But when it's a woman (i.e. Anne Boleyn, Lillith, Britney Spears) the attitude is always "Well you had this coming, b*tch."
*-The Sibling Rivalry Trope* (examples: Thor/Loki, Cain/Abel, Zuko/Azula)
*-The Weird Boy Trope:* There's a duality to this trope. On the positive side, you have characters who contrast with toxic masculinity like Edward Scissorhands or Jughead Jones. On the negative side you have incel-like characters who perpetuate it like Mark from The Social Network or Martin in Love, Simon.
*The Trainwreck Trope* (examples: Marissa Cooper from The O.C., Amy Schumer's movie of the same name, etc.)
Ooo the sibling rivalry trope would be great
Yes, please, they'd all be ripe for analysis, especially the Trainwreck trope!
Please write her name correctly: *Britney
-You're comparing characters versus real people
@@mewesquirrel6720 They're examples and these tropes play out in real life. It's not just bound to fiction.
Shes's an ideal mom. She's very open to her kid's and supportive but practical.
Her husband has dreams and she crushes them that's kinda mean IMO
That's because Phill make sure she will not cross her line with them, We seen it on multiple occasions Phill had to stop her or at least slow her down when she was about to do something extreme.
Remember when she was allowing Haley to go out with a grown man? Just to teach her a lesson (by the way she was going on all about her hunch.)
That's not good parenting, That girl was already the lowest point of her life and felt like everyone in her family hates her including her dad who she loves the most.
At that time it's not suitable let's say ignore your child.
The mother does not get to be the fun parent. That is the same as most stereotypical mothers who are not like Claire. Most shows do not allow the mother to be the fun parent.
That would be the real gender flip.
Linda from Bob's Burger feels like the genderswap of the trope with Bob having to rein her crazier plans in
This is what worries me about being a Mom. I have ADHD and people have compared me to Phil before I even watched the show because of my personality, and I’m a woman! I’m worried that because mother’s tend to be automatically expected to be more responsible, my personality would be less fun for the kids (the way it would be if I had the expectations of a father) but instead stressful and annoying since as a woman my role is to be more meticulous. If I’m bad at keeping track of those kinds of things, who else will? Men often just don’t take care of certain things in relationships but because of how my brain is wired I’m worried I wouldn’t be able to step up (I can’t be someone I’m not.) Hopefully whoever marries me knows what he’s getting into, but since we do sort of expect certain things from women, I’m worried it would be fun just us but after having kids he might feel like I’m “failing” some motherhood standard (that men with my same personality don’t really get held to.) It’s part of why I’m nervous about having kids.
@Olivia Wetzel
This is so true! Linda is such a good example of this trope inversion, I’ve never thought of that.
There was an awesome Simpsons episode about this
Thank you for this video! Obviously, Phil is every modern family fan's favorite and for some reason Claire got so much hate, which I neither understood nor did Think she deserved...
Phil is the "fun" parent, the one who lets you do anything you want but the reality is that children need to know that not every behavior is okay and someone HAS to show them that. With Phil acting like another sibling to his kids, Claire was kind of forced to be the "party popper" in the family
I'll say &how kids learn what's not ok on their own, can actually have serious consequences,
after rewatching modern family many many times i began disliking phil. don't get me wrong he is still funny and charming. BUT by being this goofy manchild he forced claire to be the bad cop. She basically had no choice. Someone had to parent.
+ i don't like his exaggerated admiration of gloria
Fan favourite, really? I always hated Phil, he seemed so immature, just felt so bad for Claire ahving to be the only parent in that house...
@@jj.b.goode. This is the reason why I can't stand Cam. He has great moments but everybody around him has to walk on eggshells, he throws tantrums and constantly guilt trips Mitch.
I don't understand why people support this ultra feminist video.
Modern family did some really cool things in the dynamics of the family. Dede is clearly a narcissist, and the show repeatedly shows how badly it harmed both Clare and Mitchell. And it even has the more old school toxic masculine Jay soften and learn some healthy masculinity
Jay is a boomer man and i think it was having that second chance as a parent thru Manny that he softened -yes, away from Dede the narcissistic partner.
There is nothing healthy about masculinity. Male genes are dying off due to their “masculinity”. Felinity has time and time again to be the superior trait.
Jay is the best character true responsible men loving and taking care of everyone despite being against of what he believes he still shows support and the reason. He didn't divorce dede was for his kids as he mentioned it in episode if it wasn't for Jay no one would succeed at anything
Modern Family never got the kudos it deserves. I hope you do more about it.
What are you saying - it got like all the Emmys for a substantial part of its runtime! It was definitely not an underrated show
I feel it was appropriately rated, since it ran for over a decade, and made stars out of the main cast.
@@dhruvbhatnagar4180 I do get what Shelly kinda getting it, because it was definitely popular with gen-x and younger boomers, which the number of Emmy winning shows were at that time (except for maybe Breaking Bad, that was everyone)
It is finally having its turn getting recognized by millennials and gen-z (who a lot are seeing themselves in the kids of that show)
But yeah it was an exceedingly popular show at the time overall
@@heyidaroo it literally still is, it probably will probably be an eternal cash cow like other older hit sitcoms
i love claire. i love how interesting and fully fleshed out the pritchett family dynamic is- dede’s narcissism and jay’s emotional constipation- it’s all so clear in claire and mitchell’s characters.
Bottom line, Claire and Phil have such a real-ish, yet wholesome and heartwarming relationship. The series does a beautiful job
Opposite attracts
My main problem with Modern Family is that there are just too many jokes about how attractive Gloria is compared to Claire, and she's just not more attractive. It's grating after a while.
It also annoys me that Phil has a huge fetish for black women but wants Claire for emotional reasons. It's also grating to think, you're an attractive woman but you're just not your husband's main type, but he just happened to fall for you.
His desire for claire is always emotional & "she's my best friend".
@@maheenm.k1015 nahhh just binged the series and he talks about how sexy she is a lot. And usually he’s never directly comparing Gloria and Claire. He’s just moreso hounding Gloria
But Claire is attractive
I love this analysis for Claire. I hope you guys do more of the modern family characters!
My family has an inside joke that suits this topic well. It’s a quote from the show that comes up a couple times, “what’s the plan, Phil?!” 😅
I love The Take really give Modern Family chances these days
I like how they show Claire as the opposite of a stereotype mom. Not all mom are loving, emotional or nurturing, but that doesn’t make them a bad/horrible mom. They just have more masculine traits & that’s _totally_ okay.
It’s not ok, women aren’t supposed to be masculine, that’s what the husband is there for
@@ninjanibba4259 It is okay! we need to move away from archaic views on relationships, she can have more masculine traits in the same way that Phil can have more feminine traits, that is their dynamic and it works for them
@@bstep518 the word woman and masculine don’t belong together in any way, women are not men
@@ninjanibba4259 Discussing Masculine traits in women doesn't mean that women are men. By masculine traits I mean traits that are traditionally more expected or assigned to men,being competitive, assertive, protective etc.are usually said to be masculine traits , something like being nurturing , emotional, intuitive are traditionally more feminine traits, in reality though, these traits exist in both men and women on a spectrum, different personalities can mean that women can have more masculine traits or men more feminine traits, it's more about individuals than it is about their gender and a balance can still exist in relationship if the individual personalities are not aligned to the traditional norm.
@@bstep518 without the traditional norm, then whomever leading the household is in question and the next thing you know the woman starts telling the man what to do and it stays that way cuz HE is the one being submitted, in what way is that normal? The man leading the household is what is meant to be, I’m pretty sure if a robber comes around, the kids aren’t gonna look to the mother to protect them
The “norm” is subjective and wrong, especially when it hurts the household and children by any means
Another example of a perfect "husband wife" to me is Lynette Scavo from Desperate Housewives. Just like Claire, Lynette was a very driven woman who had a high powered job before she married her husband Tom (who just like Phil is laid back and chill, if not a little dopey) and they started a family. Very much like Claire, Lynette resents being a homemaker especially since she has to take care of her three sons and a daughter all by herself and they are a real hand-full. Throughout the first season of Desperate Housewives, Lynette has to take care of her troublesome kids while also missing her days as a rising executive. But in later seasons she does go back to work and turns out to be a much better breadwinner than her husband Tom.
I don't understand why people support this ultra feminist video.
Stop using that word "husband-wife". It's annoying and cringe.
I've always wondered what would happen if Claire Dunphy and Monica Geller were in the same dirty room together...
Ahh very similar! They were actually considering Lisa Kudrow for the role and Matt Leblanc and Phil! Wild right !!
Claire is probably an ESTJ or something and Phill is an ENFP. And I love that we see more feeler man represented and thinker woman. Because in real life these type of couples excists too. People often fall for qualities they don't have themselves so no mather the sexist stereotypes we had been shown in patriarchy about how woman want very masculine man and men want very feminine woman.
Yes! As an ENFP myself, with an ESTJ family member I see the traits so well. Completely agree.
You're Right thx
My husband says Claire is my spirit animal, I found my Phil and I couldn’t ask for anyone more supportive and understanding. I am about to be a stay at home Mom, we have worked our butts off to have this opportunity. Working Moms and stay at home Moms are all badasses because at the end of the day what matters is that you want what’s best for your kids and you provide for them.
Interesting video :) As much as Phil is much better than a lot of TV Dads and is a good guy, I think he's a bit overrated as he's a nice Dad but I wouldn't say he's Jake Peralta levels of dream husband/Dad as Jake ended up being the one to make the big sacrifice by giving up his career for their kid. Phil also made some kinda disrespectful comments about Claire and didn't really hide his attraction to Gloria or other women he found attractive and it got a little frustrating that Claire always had to apologise and talk about how great Phil was when she got him some truly amazing gifts, like the acrobats performance and the magic shop/magic trick.
I always thought Claire could do better than Phil
@@Eimear-vn9hx thank you !! Plus there’s this episode where he teaches Luke super sexist clichés about periods and at the end of the episode the girls apologize to him for being annoying 💀 I mean Phil is lovely but he is so often portrayed as « the good guy » that the show often forget to point out his flaws and mistakes
Yes, omg, you're so right, Phil really got on my nerves in the period episode when he spoke in a stereotypical way and made it seem that they'd ruined leap day for him and they still made it up to/apologised to him?! It's a good show but I didn't really like that plot at all and Phil's kinda overrated.
In TV shows, normally it is the wife that insults the husband and this is played for laughs. Why can't we have the reverse of that sometimes? Wives on TV get away with flirting with other men more than husbands do. And it is usually the husband that talks about how great the wife is and gets her gifts. It is ironic how all of these things that are seen as normal for husbands are seen as insulting toward the wife when things are flipped.
@@greywolf7577 Which "normal" tv shows are you referencing here and how many of them started in the 21st century.
Claire is and has always been Modern Family's best character, right there next to Phil.
finally some claire appreciation! ive always hated it when people say that phil deserved better and whatever. truth be told, claire could've done better. phil is always thirsting over other women and could barely handle the three kids by himself. meanwhile, claire has to handle four people with very different personalities and needs on the daily, but people just skip over that over and over again. they just hate her bc just like what the video says, she's a woman with traditionally masculine qualities. grow tf up.
remind me of my grandparents. My grandma is definitely the one who has the say, my grandpa is rather laid back and quiet.
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My mum is a homemaker but she is not typical housewife.. She moves big heavy furnitures around, fixes plumbing issues, can handle social stressful situations better than my dad, can handle kids etc.
I'm sorry this woman is smart a washer/dryer is way better than a ring
I feel like I'd rather go on a nice vacation than have an expensive ring
i mean a new washer/drier shouldnt be a gift, it should be something she's entitled to since she's a stay at home mom and its part of her job. She should have gotten both a wahser/dryer to make her job easier, and an actual gift for personal pleasure (if not a ring then something she might actually like, like a vacation)
Yeah that's how I feel about the engagement and wedding it has become so materialistic when it has nothing to do with the marriage. I rather spend that money building our future, but to each its own
@@botanicalitus4194 Please, you are the type of person who is never satisfied.
“No, not really” - I love Gloria
There's this episode, where the 3 families about to catch up, with Claire and Mitchell rushing their families out the door. Cam says to Mitch, "ugh your such a Pritchet". Mitch goes, "what's that supposed to mean?" And then it cuts to Jay rushing his family out the door 😂
My Grandad was in the army so of course he, my Mum and I are all highly strung people. We love quoting that episode because it's relatable AF
Phil isnt the bread winning lol he’s actually makes less then claire and the only reason why they live in that house is bc claire asked her father to buy it. Jay is the real bread winner everyone takes his money but Mitchell
I hope you talk more about Modern Family in the future ! Love these videos !
While watching Modern Family I could not stop thinking about how attractive Claire was. Then one of my friend pointed out that she looks and acts kind of like my mother.
Later on therapy turned out I have a huge mom issues. That's exmplained everything.
(Btw, thanks for this video! Hope to see more Modern Family analyses from the Take)
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The Oedipus Complex, eh
Me too😱
@@Chris-rg6nm agree
Are you a lesbian or is it just like "oh wow that woman is very beautiful"?
We need analysis on cam and Mitchell
What I disliked about this show is how it treated the women much worse than the guys in terms of judging them, and you can see this with how the audience treats them as well
Phil does shtty things constantly but its always played off as harmless and funny, but if claire makes a mistake or acts badly then the whole episode is about that flaw and how she needs to grow from it. Claire objectively is a better parent and partner than Phil, but they still work well together and yet you have people saying that Phil deserves better? The same phil that flirts with other women, including his wife's step mom, constantly. And the same Phil that puts all the pressure of being the responsible parent on Claire all the time?
This also happens with Gloria, but to a lesser extent. At the very least they portray Jay as being a better husband than PhiI. And Jay often goes out of his way and out of his comfort zone for GIoria and manny, which you rareIy see with PhiI
How is she the better partner?
@@Chris-rg6nm the comment just told you
Yeah but the things Phill do is harmless and the motive behind his action always not to hurt anyone, which can not be said for her.
Also she to flirt and that to front of his face without giving him respect, remember fireman episode?
And better partner, Please if not for the Phill she would have been divorce at least twice.
And what about She being a strict parent? Phill is best strict parent and she worst fun parent, We seen it, she over do fun while hill make sure that even when they have fun they are safe.
Phill over do stricness while she knows when to pull the plug
Claire was an excellent character. I love how vitalized she got as a mom after getting back into the work force. I want to add that I always thought Phil was very in touch with his emotions and hence able to bond with everyone on a great level. Something that Jay has envied about him from time to time.
Modern family's portrayal of both the Dunphy parents was excellent and got me happy crying a lot.
Loved this. You should do more modern family analysis.
I swear she is so much like my mom! Analytical, awkward with emotions, practical. Only my dad being as emotional as he is, didn't take on a motherly role either, feeling awkward about it as well and saying "you should go to your mom for this". Unfortunately they couldn't find a way to make it work between them and separated when I was 12. One thing I acknowledge is that thanks to them (and others in my family) I've grown up not believing in any kind of gender stereotypes.
The Take, I love what you guys are doing. Could you please do a video on this topic?
The Pregnant Woman trope in the horror genre, such as:
Women getting impregnated by aliens.
Women turning into bloated hives for alien reproduction.
A woman giving birth to a demonic child.
A woman carrying a baby for an evil cult.
Even men getting impregnated by an otherworldly seductress.
Misogynist, sexist, rape culture, shock horror or just pushing a fear of aliens and demons?
Alien vs Predator: Requiem and Slither are all levels of wrong.
Don't forget about Buffy The Vampire Slayer and The X-Files.
(For anyone who reads this, I would like to know your thoughts)
The pregnant woman is the one who carries the evil on her womb ?
Buffy the vampire slayer did soooo many things right. i admit that the show wasn't perfect all the way but it has something that makes it one of THE best teen shows which can be enjoyed by all groups. Buffy Anne summers isn't the stereotypical annoying female protagonist but she is relatable - in a way. not all of us randomly discover that we are the chosen one but we could relate to her troubles more than often. she goes through bullying, struggle, love, heartbreak, depression, loss and DEATH!? i may not be very fond of Dawn but i liked some parts of their relationship which i think many siblings might relate. they are kinda annoyed of each other, they are in different stages of life but they surely know when they need each other. her mom is one of the best depictions of TV mom. now coming to the Scooby gang, EVERY SINGLE ONE had a perfect character arc. yes, Xander might fall into the trope of male gaze, but it was the 90s and let's be honest, once he saved the whole world and then in the last season he saved what was left of sunnydale - the protectors. we saw willow go from a shy stereotypical nerd to transform into one of if not THE powerful witches and a goddess. we saw her process her grief. sometimes it was painful and other times she failed to distinguish between right and wrong. we also saw willow fall into the greed of greater power. and discovering her sexuality was quite sweet. these things made her relatable to me. Giles was the father Buffy never had. Angel was sweet and protective, Angelus was terrifying and a good villian, dark Angel was compelling ( i know it was on angel, another great show for a mature audience, but as long as it is in the buffyverse, imma consider it). Now let's talk about Cordelia chase. her character arc was a treat to watch especially when she used to let guard down and not be mean to others. Wesley was good too. Faith's arc made me root for her in a way i never imagined i could. Spike is the OG bad boy. drusilla and Darla are excellent villains too.
let's talk about storylines. i love how it was a running gag that most of the time Giles would be a victim of any monster of the week. which brings me to my next. the show depicted most of our struggles with the monsters as metaphors but never lost its humour. there were some bad and very bad plots but the tone and the main characters, except Riley and that professor, made it fun and bearable.
Coming to the cast, it was a treat to watch all of them grow and mature as actors throughout the season.
P. S. i didn't include anyone else from Angel because none of them were directly connected to our heroine, the one and only
*BUFFY ANNE SUMMERS* .
It's just that women get pregnant, so the writers ask "what would happen if some alien or demon impregnated them". It's as simple as that. It isn't an attempt to disrespect real women. It's just a story telling device.
It's body horror. "A common difference in the body horror genre is that violations or distortions of the body are rarely the result of immediate or initial violence. Instead, they are generally marked by a loss of conscious control over the body through mutation, disease, or other tropes involving uncontrolled transformation.[7] The genre can invoke intense feelings of physical and psychological disgust, or squick, and play upon anxieties of physical vulnerability.[8] In addition to common tropes used within the broader horror genre, some tropes specific to the body horror subgenre may include invasion, contagion, mutation, transformation, disease, mutilation, or other unnatural or violent distortions of the human body. "
Thank you thank you thank you!!! Claire is such an underrated and undervalued character
Claire reminds me a lot of my own mother, they even look similar. Both my parents have always worked (that’s the norm in my country) and my mom is absolutely the more dominant figure compared to my dad, who isn’t as childish as phil but still playful and i think more in tune with other people’s emotions than my mom might be sometimes. She’s also incredibly solution oriented, like Claire, and i saw a lot of the same dynamics in her relationship with haley which we had too. I just love that the show allows Claire to 1) not be a very ”natural” parent, showing that motherhood is something that needs to be learned and 2) be dominant without being demonised for it. Both Claire and Gloria are like that in some ways, even if gloria’s dominance is more stereotypical, and i love that Claire’s behaviour is called out when it needs to be, but also shown to be her way of expressing love through trying to be protective and guiding.
I love how your take about Claire being so systematic that even she tried to maximise the fun that they could have in the span of time given.
Phil is so fantastic, so goofy and witty but also very emotionally intelligent, he doesn't deserve all the shit that Jay gives him, honestly
Claire is the example of why I NEVER wanted to be a mother or that wife life.
I wanted more
from the season 1 i wanted to be claire i love how strong she is as a women
Just a reminder that there's no father, mother, wife or husband role. Gender in of itself has no impact on a parent's or partner's personality or abilities. We may often categorise behaviours as being motherly or fatherly, "wifey" or "husbandy"... but in the end - there's no real basis for those ideas. They only exist as concepts because we say they do. There's just people, who they are and what they do. Remember that humans are far too complex and interesting to fit on a binary scale! :)
Absolutely! My husband and I are both mechanical engineers, both career-orientented people. We both fix things around the house and love building and experimenting. We don't fall into "traditional" roles
Can I add to that that the person making more money is not necessarily the "one in charge", or the one that "has more power". I really dislike the notion that one person has to be superior to the other in some way.
Everything you just said is wrong and why society is messed up in the way of thinking
Gender roles exist for a reason and why our children need to look upon the correct examples of the way of living instead of worldview lifestyles, it’s why people these days don’t understand what love is or how to pursue it straightforwardly
The brain structure of both genders literally wired differently for parenting buddy
This is such a great video!
I have always loved Claire, and I'm suspicious of any "feminist" who hates her because "idk she's just kind of annoying"/"she's a nag".
Claire and Phil are an exaggerated version of my parents
I loved Claire, she deserved more recognition for sure. Thank you for this video :,)
More Modern Family analyses please. Keep em coming!
It's not Phill can't be man of the house, We all seen if he tried how dominating and powerful he can be, But he just let her take comtrol as like batman once he started he didn't know where to stop.
Man I'm addicted to this show
I was totally puzzled by the amount of hate Claire got 2-3 seasons in, and now I realized that's basically my mother I'm watching on screen 💀
Update I started watching Modern Family. I like it. and I like Claire. I love the moment when Haley is drunk after lying to Claire and instead of shouting at her and scalding her for doing what she did, Clair just comforts her daughter and helps her sober up and feels better. That's what makes you a mother. Those little moments.
So y’all have done Gloria & Claire, I’m guessing Cam’s next and how he’s both a stereotypical gay as well as the macho one in their relationship/family.
This is perfect timing since I just started rewatching Modern Family 😊. The timeline is kind of weird/there are some continuity errors with the references to Claire and Phil’s relationship. In either season 1 or 2 they mention that they eloped at the court house when Claire was about 4 months pregnant. Based on Haley’s age in show she would’ve been born in December 1993, and that means they would’ve gotten married in July 1993. In season 5, Phil says that he proposed in March 1994? I’m guessing the writers forgot and accidentally messed up the dates. Either way, I love Modern Family and it’s one of my all time favorite shows.
The first season or two are a little off too because the other characters are constantly saying that Claire is uptight or a nag, but we don't see those behaviors.
I have sometimes accused The Take, though always interesting, of being too orthodox and unnuanced in their feminism--like when they suggest that
"...we can't help feeling vicariously empowered watching "Gone Girl"'s Amy Dune frame and murder people"…
(With that I DON'T Agree!)
But I think with this video they got a really nice, nuanced balance.
They are laying out a narrative that creates room for women to be more "masculine" in some ways and for men to be more "feminine" in some ways; without trying to generalize that or simply reverse the enforced rules of the sexes. (Or deny statistically likely differences.)
They are basically speaking in favor of letting everyone play from their strengths and acknowledging that everyone is different and has different talents.
Some men have talents that are traditionally thought of as feminine and that doesn't make them less of a man--and vice versa for women.
It's not just reversing the roles as some kind of payback centuries of sexism.
It's *Actually* trying to create a world where people can be three dimensional, real human beings...
i kid you not i am watching modern family as we speak and it's claire and phil slow dancing from their anniversary episode
omg I love it. Really looking forward to Cam&Mitch analysis.
If y'all make a 'Who should Haley have ended up with?' video you'll have a Modern Family reddit armageddon n the comments.
Honestly, i get why Claire is the way she is, with her parents issues, her low self esteem when it came to having Gloria as step mother, and her child-like husband, on top of raising teenagers... That's a lot for one person.
I think Modern Family highlighted very well with Claire how unfair it is that the traditionally female role of the family nurturer also comes with the obligation to take all the parts of parenthood that are 1. not fun at all and 2. make you the strict/not fun/bad parent. This starts with making sure the kids eat healthy (and not too much "fun" foods like fast food and candy) to disciplining bad behaviour and being in charge of the household running smoothly. It's an incredibly exhausting and unthankful role. Also, many people seem not to understand that Phil is able to be so laid back and fun not despite but BECAUSE of Claire being the high-strung, disciplined one. You could see that in the episode where they switched roles and suddenly Phil had to be the strict parent, he completely swung to the other extreme by not letting the children eat before they didn't finish their chores.
I wish The Take would also do a video about Alex. She is perfectionist and ambitious to an extent that way overtakes Claire and therefore also very high-strung because she constantly overworks herself. Especially when she gets older, that leads to her family highly relying on her to take on an authorative leading role and keep the family on track while at the same time labelling her the not-fun/bummer one. Because she is an overperformer, she is not just expected to be fine on her own (i.e. needing less focus and support that Haley and Luke) but also to take responsibility for her family in a way that she's actually far too young for.
We need a relationship analysis on Phil and Claire!! 🥲🥲❤️❤️
YEEESSSS!!! U listen to us!! more Modern Family Characters!! Do HAILEY!!!! I will die on this hill, until you do! her transformation is amazing!!!
Also in general what Modern Family teaches!!
BUT THANK U FOR THIS TWO!
Thank you so much for this analysis and all of your hard work!
Would you consider to do an analysis on Cameron Diaz character Elizabeth in “Bad Teacher”? This movie is one of my all-time favourite comedies, mostly because of Cameron performance. Even though in real life we would hate a person that acted like her character but at the same time I really liked her uniqueness in comparison with how women are usually portrayed in movies made by man, which makes her character refreshing. She is kind of like Charlize Theron character in “Young Adult” but if it was a comedy.
This is why I love Clair. I'm an older child and while I'm not as analytical retention or up tight I get it
Claire was often overly criticized while Phil was overly praised.
Phil was often emotionally manipulative with his family, but it was portrayed as endearing because Ty Burrell is very likable.
There was an episode where he put the family’s picture on a van to advertise himself as a realtor. It ended up making Hayley and Claire look like prostitutes, but it was wrong even before that because he was taking away the privacy of his wife and kids.
Then, on the way to Manny’s birthday when Hayley and Alex said that they didn’t want to go to family camp, Phil started crying. It was framed as endearing, but Phil emotionally manipulated Hayley and Alex into doing something they hated.
Of course, he also tried to push Luke Toto becoming a magician when he no longer wanted to do that. And when he was in the hospital, he tried to make Claire feel guilty about getting dressed for the firemen while he himself was flirting with women.
Both Claire and Phil are flawed, but Claire’s flaws are framed as unlike able while Phil’s emotional manipulations are framed as endearing.
I really appreciate this analysis of Claire!! I’ve never thought about her in this way
I tell people all the time I rather be the dad than the mom. My husband loves being at home but sadly even though I work my butt off, me making tons of money is difficult because people still don’t offer equal pay.
One of the most underrated moments of the show is when Luke writes Claire is her hero and makes her recognize the lens her kids sees her through. All the moments when Alex asks her to be unabashedly herself and Haley being scared to tell her that she is pregnant, and Ben and Dylan being scared of her approval shows a lot about her strong personality, which I absolutely love about her. Women get a lot of hate if they portray any of these characters (which Claire is getting too.) but at least writers were not scared to stick to.
I loved the episode where she went back to work for her father and she became a people pleaser at work! That was so relatable!
Thank you!! I love Modern Family ❤️
Modern Family is one of those shows I genuinely feel I would enjoy but I just never get round to watching it. I dunno what it is but something just puts me off.
I'm a psychic and I'm here to tell you that it's because the DVD you bought, smells funny.
Now pay up - More sessions will follow, of course.
I love claire so much
Ward Cleaver was very involved in the day to day goings on with the kids. I have the complete series of Leave it to Beaver and watch it often.
I'm going to be so sad soon when I've watched all your videos because they manage to be truth telling and critical while also being fun and funny and lighthearted. I'll just have to binge them all again 💕
Has there ever been a video made about Luke? I don't think so I'm pretty sure every other family member has a video on them.
YOU LITERALLY CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME! I was studying the fiction tropes about husbands.
Nice video. Claire is my favorite character on this show, so it was cool to see her get some appreciation and analysis.
Hot take: the stay at home mom especially in recent years
Is more in charge of the house than the father is
Why do they say in recent years, this has been the case for the last 50 years.
It's always been that way for the most part. The guy's traditional role was just brings in the money that keeps the lights on, possibly working numerous jobs into a heart attack in their mid to late 50s depending on the situation. I grew up around plenty of family where the dads would always been in the back room sleeping when you came over because he just came off a shift or has another one lined up in a few hours and needed a nap. That's where the joke of "ask your mother" came from. The dad didn't care because he's not the one with the money anyway. It's the family's money for the wife to control. Flash forward to today and guys regularly joke about asking wives for permission to buy fishing poles or a motorcycle to take out in the weekends. The wives hardly ever joke because it's their money now in the first place.
this goes to wayyyy back in the day too, there’s medieval era jokes about this
@@claireseelig3347 idk why people think men were in charge lmao
@@normandy2501 idk why people think men were in charge 😂
@5:18 They mention that it is strange for Claire to feel the need to explain herself to being a stay at home mom even though it is common in the 90’s and now. Although, traditional roles would support women being stay at home housewives, our modern society and women do not. (Of course, I am not saying all women feel this way) My parents are similar to Claire and Phil. She is strong, intelligent, practical and independent. Throughout the 90’s and even now, people have passed judgment that she took on the role as a stay at home mom. Movies such as “I don’t know how she does it” and “The Intern” reference the judgments on the “working mom”. But in general, there is judgment for either roles. We are still cultivating and evolving as a society to be more aware of the struggles of motherhood. The choice to work/not work has to fit what is best for the family. It would be interesting to see a discussion of Claire from Modern Family and Lynette from Desperate Housewives.
Claire and Jay are my favourites... I'm now concerned about what kind of person I am 😅
I have similar dynamic in my household, where my husband is very laidback and I am like Claire and honestly it’s exhausting…
y'all I barely seen two episodes and I'm already crying for this family from this vid's explanations
The only thing better than binging Modern Family is watching The Take analysis of it
This makes me want to rewatch modern family again
Claire was always one of my favorites. i don’t understand why people can’t understand her character more. i feel like i really understand her and i love her. she was a boss. period.
finally, a modern family analysis video by the take thank you so much, please do one about Philip too ..
huh, (it's still up to The Take to make a video essay on it) now I'm wondering about the deadbeat dad trope(at most where did it originate from, not just which characters qualify for the definition)
This was so sweet and heartwarming❤❤
I always loved Claire, I am very sarcastic and bossy, and I always enjoyed watching her. I think the show was super good at balancing characters as I loved ALL of them.
Honestly like modern family because its general show were the kids actually are shown for more that 5 seconds each episode. Makes it feel real.
i can't stop watching your videos. It's almost 2 AM, let me go to bed!
I really love the dynamic of phil and claire.
Jay is the best character on the show then Claire for being responsible supportive loving characters doing things for their loved ones against their beliefs and holding all the family together