Thanks so much for watching! To go further in depth; Gorr also has the ability to create bladed weapons and regenerate, which are quite neat and would come in handy in the battle. Now, regarding the whole "inaccessible speed" deal, I honestly had some Mandela effect and thought I had seen Goku & Trunks moving in the void, but even so, it's quite likely they would be able to through scaling. Even in Dragon Ball Z, we have seen characters toy with timespace like Gotenks and Super Buu by affecting dimensions through raw power alone. In the anime, Super Buuhan was going to collapse dimensions with his vice shout to destroy the living universe. Buu's shield was intended to protect him from the destruction itself, yet Vegito punched through it. If Beerus and Goku while extremely suppressed were going to wipe out the timespace and they got progressively more powerful, and we know that time-based abilities & speed can be countered and are clearly connected to raw power, then Beerus should be highly capable of being able to move and fight in a timeless void. Also, I do know that the hakai and the hakai energy are two different techniques, but they both do the same thing of manipulating and wiping out souls, so it doesn't matter. Regarding the second Goku Black VS Gorr battle, I'd use Xenoverse/Heroes scaling for Goku Black to see if he would win. Please let me know if you'd like me to make it! Also, the World of Void in Dragon Ball is clearly not a timeless void because they literally mention there is a time limit.
Chuck Awesome video, but I’m a little confused about the part with Beerus’ Hakai. You mention that Goku and Vegeta were able to counter the technique through their raw power alone. As we know, they are technically mortals. What’s confusing me is that you brought up Gorr’s physiology, but he’s also a mortal, just like Goku and Vegeta. I don’t quite understand how that’s different. Since he’s more powerful and durable than Beerus, shouldn’t the Hakai technique not even work on him? Or is it because he’s from the Marvel universe and even if he were to power up, it wouldn’t change anything because their laws of physics are different? And when you say the Hakai can be countered through “raw power,” is that literal energy, like ki, and not physical strength? If you or anyone else can help clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Chuck I think you're forgetting I remember it mentioned at one point in that story that killing so many gods actually turned Gorr into a god. I remember thor actually speaking with the sword and convincing it to leave gorr since gorr became what he hated.
"My name is Gorr, son of a nameless father, outcast from a forgotten world. I have slain my way through multitudes to stand here at the genesis of all things. Blackened by vengeance, wet with holy blood. One simple dream still strong in my heart... The dream of a godless age." ~ Gorr the God Butch
@@thecouncil1015 You’re kinda wrong. Gods, confirmed by Cory Barlog, are 5D at the lowest, & get more powerful by just existing. So, bare minimum inaccessible &, via Hermès scaling, infinite speed feats. Tartarus, a Primordial being that’s infinite in size, was threatened by other Primordial entities that created the cosmology. They themselves were later surpassed by the Titans, Olympians, then Kratos. In GOW 2018, the Valkyries could travel through realms with different time-spaces by sheer speed, which is irrelevant speeds since they’re dimension hopping.
@@gohanblanco5641 Maybe Zeno cause he simply doesn't have enough feats, but scaling Whis off of Goku or Beerus, Hes able to casually one shot these low to mid multiversal characters with a karate chop. Whis claps
Also remember that Beerus can theoretically use Ultra Instinct, making him that much faster and stronger, I believe if he was backed into a corner he could access this form and maybe win
@@mevincool he dosnt need it mastered. Even just ui omen is strong enough to bring u above god status in super. In a guide it was stated that Goku when he went ui omen the 3rd time it was stated that he had surpassed Beerus. So if Goku was able to surpass Beerus and other certain gods with just ui omen then Beerus who is actually a god used ui omen he would be the strongest god.
cool horse ha lol so true this guy was in like three other comments on this vid all saying chuck was bais he is probably just upset that his anime gets rekt in all continuities by marvel
I like how people like Jiren and Beerus are just upsurdly overpowered. And it's all just in their base forms. Like if you give Jiren a super sayian 1 or ss2 buff, he'd beat ultra instinct Goku no prob
A Jade Rabbit I mean I suppose but by that logic really any character on Berrus or jirens scale given that boost would also be able to do that. I know all of these fights are as pure as speculation gets but taking into account multipliers for characters that don’t exist seems iffy.
15:03 Time travelling with speed and speed alone really just grinds my gears. Comic fiction writers just really liked to go above and beyond, plus ultra, with these superpowers
It was implied that Toppo hadn't fully mastered the hakai, so we don't know if the version the other gods of destruction use is more effective. if the one toppo uses is incomplete then the same one that Sidra gave his minion would also be a weaker version by comparison, so Beerus's hakai could possibly still effect stronger beings to an extent.
I wanna see Beerus full Hakaishin mode just like Toppo did, and Beerus can go Ultra Instinct but haven't mastered, that would look insane Full God mode with a touch of Ultra Instinct...
How is Beerus gonna go God of Destruction mode if he's already a God of Destruction? Toppo wasn't a God of Destruction,thats why he got that transformation that gave him some power of a God of Destruction
The New yeah he was bewildered because Goku is a mortal achieving Godly feats. Beerus was well aware that Goku was using ultra instincts when they first saw it. Whis didn’t even needed to state it. It’s not even an an assumption beerus has it but more common sense.
Thanks to you and Seth, I'm starting to get into power scaling characters. I enjoy researching and comparing different characters from different continuity. Good job on the video Chuck
What's this low- mid range multi universal buster level on Beerus. (What is "low-mid multiuniversal"? That is too vague.) A suppressed Beerus fighting Champa were going to destroy universe 6 and 7. The fact Beerus was legit using about 1% of his power on SSG Goku, and you even told us Goku absorbed SSG into his base. Goku in base form by that logic could destroy at least half a universe if not more now as SSG and Beerus were going to destroy the universe. That times his SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSG again, SSGB, and even Kaioken, or SSB Mastered in the manga. IN WHICH WAS smacked down by Beerus against Vegeta SSB Mastered without sweating, telling him to his face at that rate it would take him hundreds of years to be near his level. To USE your OWN scaling along with Seth's, Beerus is much much more than just multi universal level. To better scale Beerus, you should of scaled him to Goku and Vegeta in which we do know their power. I would debate, especially since he confirmed the strongest GoD, Beerus is a 4D character. Suppressed Jiren was not affected by time, and incomplete UI was shaking an infinite void. It would be head cannon, but I believe all of us that watch Dragonball intensely would agree Beerus should be stronger than incomplete UI in all introductions, besides maybe its final introduction against Jiren, as he got stronger each time receiving it. (Anime) It would only be MUI that surpassed him. If you could scale Beerus to those standards and call him 4D, then the debate would be quick and simple. Unless you believe he is 3D then scale him the other way. 4D> Any power at 3D If Gorr is confirmed 4D then he too could be an easy beat on Beerus if you didn't believe he was. I would say its safe to say, Gorr is not 4D but has insane power at a 3D scale. Unless anyone can give me feats, in which I would be totally open for as I just don't know the character very well. The most you can debate is Future Thor who is "supposedly stronger than Odin" should be 4D as Odin may have 4D feats. But I'm not sure if he does. 4D feats from Odin would be hard to measure as uses Magic, and Marvel loves those characters messing anything they can and use the excuse they have it. Either way, I love you Chuck, but I feel like you could scaled better.
Low multiversal can range from two to a thousand times universal, while mid multiversal can be 1001 - infinite times universal. So yeah, beerus is mid multiversal. Chuck was right. Seth uses this term as well. I'd rank beerus in those millions of times universal ranges. Current Odin is OP as well. He negged a flame capable of wiping out infinite universes and stalemated jane foster thor, who held off shuma gorath. Current Odin is also mid multiversal and comparable to his classic levels of power. Not only that, but there was never any statement saying that Odin got weaker. So yeah, even still, current Odin is multiversal. More than a match for beerus.
@@belikebrett mid multiversal is standard multiversal. Also, low multiversal is his lowball. Chuck even has vegeta from the goku black arc beyond low multiversal. I'd say he is right to put beerus at low to mid multiversal.
@@homer886 Ok I could be wrong but I thought it read low-mid UNIVERSAL. Not MULTIUNIVERSAL. And he should scale Goku to Thor along with multiple ones then scale that to Beerus. Easier and more accurate scaling. Odin is a VERY magical type guy. Not all raw power. Thor being stronger or equal to Odin could be fighting experience and raw power. I dont think anyone can match his magical powers. Him putting out a fire from the world tree does not prove any raw power. Knowing Marvel, Scarlet Witch could do the same if they did it. Comics are anime plot on steroids
@@firstnamelastname1523 he doesn't want to destroy everything. He simply wants to destroy all of the gods from all of existence. He created a God bomb which was intended to go detonate and cause ripples through all realities and multiverse and timelines, killing/erasing every god ever... but regular beings would be left alone. So life would still go on, just without the gods who were barely even there for the mortals in the first place. Gorr lost and suffered so much for a long time and lost hope that the were even any gods to pray to. But then he saw with his own eyes that they were real and felt the power they possessed for himself. This made him snap. God's were real. Gods were powerful beyond belief. And gods were selfish for not using this power to help the better the lives of all those who suffer. That and the fact that the sword is super crazy and powerful af. It led him to more and more gods as it had an unquenchable thirst for god blood. But yeah you should read good story if you get a chance. Artwork and writing is great. It may also turn you into a big thor fan.
L0ST S0UL if your referring to the chaos king then no, he attacked the multiverse thousands of years after gorr found the necro sword at least. If you’re referring to null, the original owner of the necrosword, that might make sense fir that one specific god he killed but even before that I’m pretty sure they were being asses that didn’t do anything for gorrs world.
naahhhhhh idk about that. he would def win like 7-8/10 but idk about a one shot lol i would def love to see a “gorr finds the dragonball pantheon gods” comic one shot tho 😂
Screwattack shouldn't be taken seriously. Dudes wanked WW holding the force of 1/3rd of the Earth but never mentioned Thor withstood the weight of 20 planets
Nice video Chuck, sweetly edited. I have some doubts about certain things tho. How do you know Mephisto and Galactus were going to destroy those other dimensions and not just the living universe of the dimension they were in? Yes, Goku moved in the void. He literally floated to where Zeno was. A feat that as I see it would prove Beerus has immesurable speed is by using Goku's feat of moving in Hit's time skip, which is even more impressive than moving in stopped time. Also, trillions of times FTL is an extreme lowball since their hits reached the Kai realm almost instantly, and that has been calced to be at least quintillions of times FTL and that's Beerus using way less than 1% of his power. The Thor feat in which he traveled in time I think is REALLY unfair to use, because that has more to do with how the physics in that marvel universe worked WHEN THE COMIC WAS DRAWN. It worked in a way that if he moved his hammer twice the speed of light he would time travel. That's literally saiyan saga level. But the thing I mostly don't understand is, how can Goku Black apparently be able to damage Gorr, a characters that's apparently so much stronger and faster than Beerus himself? I'm definetly not seeing that. Gorr would be suppressed the whole time vs Black? I don't even see Black being able to adapt from Rosé level to freaking BEERUS level (that should be equal or below Omen 3 Goku himself, who was way more powerful than 110 Jiren who was already stronger than Infinite Zamasu, a better version of Black). Every time Black adapted was vs someone who was somewhat relative to him, making the power-up not ASTRONOMICAL. The biggest power-up he had was after fighting Goku for the first time, but what happened there was that Black was fully able to use Goku's body properly, or use it's full power/potential properly, that's what he implied. Those are the things that make me scratch my head on this matter, but other than that great analysis!
xbg Samurai yeah magic based does not make since as this Thor had magic powers stronger than his fathers along with the fact that the power up he got was stronger than his fathers and Thor called it the Thor force not to mention that the necro sword allowed this Thor to one shot galactus and gorr has it oh and I’m along with every comic book fan so tired of when dragon ball fanboys try to make it seem like marvel and dc are only powerful with there hacks even though they have on many occasions fought with raw powers and do it all of the time like with Odins battle with Seth were they WERE DESTROYING TGE INFINITE MARVEL MULTIVERSE oh and in terms of speed he scales off of Thor who can himself move through time along with fighting with people who move through time so just so you know gore is stronger than Old King Thor who was stronger than the previously stated with raw power mid multiverse level plus along with being faster than this Thor who is faster than his regular version who has moved through time being immeasurable and on top of all that gorr has as his main weapon a sword capable of beating a WELL FED GALACTUS WHO IS AT LEAST HYPERVERSAL If well fed along with hax on par with sky fathers Luke Odin and Thor not to mention being able to easily destroy elder gods who can by them self’s solo the council of god heads who are atleast mid multiversal to mid multiverse level plus so all in all gorr is faster stronger has stronger weapons and way better hax so yes gorr stomps now stop being a dragon ball fanboy and accept that
Chuck, Zeno did not wipe out the entire timeline, even though Goku said that he did, that is just what he thought. Zeno wiped out the Zamasua faces that were controlling part of the timeline, that is why they were able to go back in time. When they did go back in time they found out that Zeno was still there and that it was a prettier place and there were no more Zamasuas left in that dimension.
@@purgatory1022 I'm a big lagann tard but 11D is probably a high bawl, I put GL in the 5D - 11D range, 5D being a low bawl, shit Simon himself is complex multiversal from just him absorbing the multiversal labyrinth which was a actual physical attack the anti spiral used haha
Gurren Lagaan starts off as a simple mech anime.. and then Kamina dies and shit gets real crazy. Next thing you know, a muscular blue haired man is blinking an infinite multiverse into his space mech to fight a supreme godlike being using FIGHTING SPIRIT
I have an idea you culd make a video like the Thor video you made like at first talk about his constant power level and then talk about their most powerful versiones just with Doctor DOOM.
the thing about time travel and speed and stuff is that its all up to the writer's interpretation. For example, if any of these characters moved at light speed in the real world then there would be a lot of problems for everyone on earth or anyone in the universe. The conclusion we can draw from this is that Physics isn't the same in the Marvel universe as it is in our own universe. Likewise for dragonball. If characters were throwing punches at the speed of light there would be a whole host of problems for anyone around them. Massive explosions vaporizing everything around them. So we can conclude that Physics isn't the same in the dragonball universe. My point in all this is that saying "well this guy in this universe time travelled with his speed and this person in the other universe didn't" isn't really relevant since maybe time travel doesn't work like that in the other universe. Its not just a matter of speed but rather the conditions the writers set in place for that feat to occur. This is why we can't say things like "only a stand can hurt another stand" and then say no one can ever hurt star platinum since he is a stand. That statement only works for jojo's universe which has crafted physics for that universe alone. Its also why you can't say Saitama solo's everyone because he isn't meant to lose. That's the reality of his own universe, not the reality outside of it. The problem with comics (both american and japanese) is that they like to just increase the power level instead of crafting a thought out narrative. Writers don't necessarily think of the implications of physics and science when they make their characters do cool stuff. A character travelling across the universe in 30 minutes? Its cool but what would that actually mean? Then you have that same character throwing punches that you can see aren't really as fast as that previous travelling speed. Its simply rule of cool. I'm not saying if gorr could beat beerus since I don't know. I literally know next to nothing about gorr aside from what chuck said in this video. I also understand the importance of calculating feats in order to determine who would win (if character's x can lift 500lbs and character y can lift 600lbs then obviously y is stronger) but when looking at stuff like speed and what not its not really that great of an idea to use what happens because of that speed as a measuring stick. Or what happens because of that strength, or stamina, etc. Results can change based on the physics of the universe. Obviously Thor isn't destroying the planet every time he swings his fist. Obviously goku and frieza didn't blow up the planet just by throwing hands. I liked your video though man. I like it when people take the time to calmly explain things and its always nice to learn something about a character I knew nothing about. Keep up the good work man
If Gorr looses, I riot. Edits: I'm glad to see someone who finally gets it. Thor vs Goku? Can even do a Rune King Thor or Phoenix King Thor vs UI Goku and SSJ4 Goku?
what could UI goku do to rune king thor honestly? this thor has norse stones to see the past, present and future of all things basically nigh omnipotent, and odin force, he even wiped a being out of existence with just a thought
@@isaias8996 You're obviously ignorant to what the God's of Asgard can do. Especially Rune King Thor and Phoenix King Thor. Just stop. UI Goku would die horribly. If Thor, Odin, Hela, Loki, or any one of them stop time, actually stop time, not some dumbass time skip, stop time and kill him, it doesn't matter how hard he hits. RKT and PKT have way too many hacks. Standard Thor would beat his ass to death. Just stop.
Ya know what,there may not be a fancy animation......there may not be two,semi funny people here to narrate facts But the things that kept me entertained,was how much i smiled at the small jokes you made,from "it really be like that tho" to ultra instinct Norville Rogers(Shaggy's actual name)....I'll give you props my guy,you know how to keep up to date with this generation,keep up the good work P.S. i lost my train of thought while writing this,i had no intention to get back on track.....so if you're confused,i implore you to just ignore it
@@jekjek2783 I think Chuck wanks Odin too much. His entire argument for why Odin is on the level of Beerus, is pretty flawed. He said that Odin is on Beerus's level because he destroyed galaxies just by fighting, but it was stated that if Beerus and Champa fought, it would destroy universes. He also said that Odin is multiversal because he "nullified" a fire that spread across the world tree. But he didn't nullify it, he just opened a portal and sent the fire somewhere else. Saying that makes Odin multiversal is like saying that Minato is stronger than Kurama because he teleported one of Kurama's tailed beasts bombs away from his village. I know Odin is strong, but he's never shown any feats that would put him above universal +. Meanwhile, Beerus has been shown to be far above SSB Goku, and at this point, Goku is universal + in his base form.
@pain giver Beerus never claimed goku was stronger than him in ultra instinct omen, that was something from a jump magazine which the magazine writer wrote, none of the show writers claimed this. Beerus 1 shot mastered ssb vegeta and fought all gods of destruction at the same time in the manga. Jiren never 1 shot ssb goku or vegeta. Ultra instinct is never, not even once, described as "beyond all the gods entirely". where did you even get that from? i've seen every super episode and am up to date with the manga, not once was that said.
@pain giver Saying beerus isn't on jirens level is mere speculation, toriyama is still saving beerus for a reason. The prophecy still hasn't come true yet, the manga makes this clear. (And dbs will be following the manga strictly when it returns)
You literally explained inaccessible speed for Beerus, then say Gorr is stronger, faster more powerful without explaining Beerus's power at all. You basically said he'd lose because he's slower. Dropped the ball big time on that one.
Yaboi Derrick because you guys can’t realize that you’re universe isn’t nothing compared to marvel and dc I mean you’re universe peaks out at most to low multiverse level while dc and marvel peak out at outerversal
An example of a multiversal level threat in the Dragon Ball universe. Would be the adverse affects of two God's of Destruction fighting. This was explained by Whis to be taboo. Because the singularity caused by their battle. Threatens both universes of the Gods of Destruction clashing.
@@percytheone low multiversal: 2 universes simultaneously. Multiversal: 3-1000 universes simultaneously High multiversal: 1001-infinity universes simultaneously. High multiversal+: uncountably infinite universes simultaneously, or otherwise just affect 5-D constructs. It's all on levels, man. It always is. You can't just sum up everything in one go like that you feel me ?
I didn't watch the video so far but. did you not say beerus is on the level of odin? if those two characters are approximately equal. gorr should shit on beerus gorr shit on 3 thors. and all father (old king thor) was one of them. and old king thor is already more powerful than odin old king thor`s odin force empowered god blast was not enough to kill gorr. so i dont think there is even a chance for beerus to kill him/knock him out.
OK I'm gonna say this once. Don't compare db's multiverse to marvels multiverse because marvel literally has a near infinite number of universe's in their multiverse. Dragon Ball has only 12. Beerus multiverse level feats aren't comparable to Odin's multiversal level feats. I love your videos man but come on now. I know you love dragon ball but you and Seth need to stop comparing and saying multiversal level feats from db as being equal to multiversal level feats of characters from marvel or DC. Marvel and DC multiversal feats are more impressive because their multiverse is a shit ton more larger than db's multiverse. Plus the hakai can't work on beings powerful enough to resist it.
@Tyler Gilbert I don't think jiren is above time. If anything by going off of how ki works in dragon ball it's safe to assume when jiren was trapped in the time cage, he didn't overpower time, he overpowered hit's power which the cage was made of which was trapping him in suspended animation. Not to mention hit gets weaker with his time warping the stronger the opponent. Zeno is only 4D in power but 3D overall since there are multiple versions of himself in other timelines.
@@paulharenchar9169 I don't think zeno is only 3D since time and space in dragon ball seem to work somewhat differently from other series since goku and trunks went to a timeline that was destroyed somehow.
@@bigjayjay2x597 you gotta look at the basics though of tiering. Let me explain, if you were 4d, you would be above time. You would be the same person in every timeline and time wouldn't split you up by having counterparts in other timelines. Take darkseid from DC for example. In every timeline be it their post crisis, pre crisis, new 52, or rebirth he is the same person. Low and high end focus on how much of time you can manipulate. Zeno like hit has 4d capabilities with time skip and destroying a timeline but they have duplicates in other timelines making them 3D like everyone else physically. Also about the timeline destruction, I see it as completely nothing. A frozen suspended animation with nothing. Nothing moves, revolves, there is no space only void if you get me. Completely nothing so I wouldn't say it's completely different in the logic department.
Just wait until The dragon ball series has gone on as long as Marvel, the powers and scaling will be just as crazy, that’s how fighting entertainment works (with the exception of SCP, they just started with the most crazy stuff)
AJs Videos I doubt it. Marvel had Hyperversal beings since the first episode of dragon ball let alone dbs. It’s playing catch-up and it won’t change anytime soon.
Saheteraba Kutisha I don’t think Toriyama cares about marvel in particular, and DB characters will just get stronger over time naturally, and whilst marvel did start off with strong characters overall they’ve been getting stronger, with more and more ridiculous feats
AJs Videos I never said toryama cared. I said dragon ball is playing catch up with its characters. More ridiculous feats? You do realize Zeno is child compared to what marvel has right? The beyonder destroyed 13 billion dimensions with ONE blast. And that was in the 70s. So far marvel has introduced a race that is makes what the beyonder did look like nothing. My point is that dbs is still growing. It says something when the god of your verse is a child unit in another.
Saheteraba Kutisha yeah, so we agree, so long as Toei doesn’t shut down, there’ll be something to be stronger than Zeno and then stronger than him and so on, I just object to the phrase ‘playing catch up’ but I see what you mean, at this stage it’s not even close, because they’ve only just reached multiversal, but dragon ball is still going relatively strong, so I don’t see why more and more transformations won’t stack to the point where the series is viable in actual top tier power scaling arguments
AJs Videos The gap is huge. Not to say that Dbz is weak, but they have as much a chance at reaching Marvels power as avatar has at reaching DBZs. I agree it is growing. But so is marvel. New gods and multiversal beings are being added in. I’m saying that DBZ has quite a while to even be relevant. DBZ is going strong I guess. So they’re is a possibility. Maybe.
That not even a fight or a contest the living tribunal and comsic armor superman alone rapes zeno they are both hyperversal while dragon ball at max is just multiversal
@@00Grimreaper00 not even multiversal, more like multi universe, because there are only 18 universes in Dragonball.Multiverse contains infinite amount of universe
Have to understand , it doesn't matter who you are at heart the hakai technique erases anything whis said"theres not a thing that beerus cannot destory" . Beerus is theoretically the strongest destruction god, sidra so happens to be one of the weakest ones and toppo isnt even a full destruction god, hes just a candidate (supposedly under sidra). Also we have never seen what beerus can actually do, his "70% power" was just a motivator for goku to try to push beerus to 100% in gokus mind. In theory beerus wasnt even trying at all, at the end of the fight beerus had like one scratch on him and goku was barely alive and was beaten up badly
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Great vid. Except you did forget to mention that beerus does scale to infinite Zamasu whom he didn't even perceive as a threat and would eventually become a High Multiversal being. As he would be able to become one with many Multiversal+ sized universes. You also didn't mention The God Bomb ( Which destroys every god that ever existed across the Multiverse) that Gorr somewhat scales too. As Thor absorbed the blast from the God Bomb and the Necrosword to weaken Gorr.
The universes in DB are only low multiversal. They are only 3.33 times universal in size. That's literally macrocosmal. It's not mid multiversal. Second, to be high multiversal, you must be beyond infinitely universal. The highest zamasu would ever get is still low multiversal, seeing as how he would, at maximum, take up only 72 universe sized structures. Low multiversal can go up to 1000 times universal. Mid multiversal can literally go up to INFINITELY universal. High multiversal is 5d. Zamasu would have have gotten to 5d levels of power.
I saw the meme version of Shaggy. He scales loosely to 200x Birrus at 100% base form. There are many characters in fiction. Which would require him to use Super Saiyen 1 or higher. Some like SMP 682 and his father. May be too much for him in any form.
@@levbiggs That places him above characters like SMP 682 and his father. Though the characters above that classification in the SMP universe. Still would be equal or greater tier. I need more information about that tier in the SMP universe. To say with any certainty.
Gorr only slaps if u scale with older more op versions of Thor and Odin. Jason Aarons' Thor and Odin are not even close to multiversal. So if we used the consistency model Beerus slaps with mid to high level difficulty. Otherwise Gorr should have the advantage unless Beerus' hakai is up for the job.
beerus scales past infinite zamasu so...isn't that more impressive than anything odin has done. Also I'd argue that time traveling character have different speeds as different verses require different speeds to time travel. like originally all you needed to do in DC was go faster than light but now its immeasurable speed.
Kristian Kember No it’s not even close to what Odin has done. Especially when he fought and beat infinity. A battle with near universal damage. And undid and fixed the cosmos after the fight. Gorr took on a Thor who was more powerful than that. On top of a normal Thor, who was capable of breaking Galactus’s helmet. And young Thor at the same time. And won.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 restoring multiple galaxy clusters > killing a living timeline that contain multiple macrosoums as well as 2 other universe+ realms??? What is this
@@saheterabakutisha1476 He didn't and hasn't. Everything Marvel related was taken way our of context. So there are two main eras in Marvel. Classic and Modern. All of Odin's best feats are from the mostly retconned Classic era Marvel where cosmic and mystical characters were op as hell (think DC's Silver age for comparison). Modern Marvel characters are significantly weaker comparison. Modern Odin is barely small Galaxy at his peak, and is more consistently written as being solar system to multi-solar system when well rested (he was large galaxy level in his youth). Old King Thor is actually not as powerful as his father. He may be physically stronger and a better combatant, but he lacks one major thing. Despite wielding the Thor Force (which, BTW, is canonically diminished by his time) long than Odin had the Thor Force, Thor cannot manipulate reality to the same degree as his father. Remember, unlike Thor, Odin was a God of magic and sorcery, wisdom and poetry/stories which allowed him to tap into the very nature of the cosmos. The Odin Force enhanced that many fold, which is where all of his best feats come from. Thor never gad any hope of matching it. Going into Gorr, at his peak (capable of fighting off 3 Thors) Gorr was actually a Solar system buster at best. He could only reach superluminal speeds for traveling and could only access other dimensions because of portals. In combat he might be hypersonic but that's about it. A well fed Galactus or well-rested Odin could've taken him out. I say this with confidence, because king Thor barely beat an old, practically starved, Galactus with the necrosword and Mjolnir.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 What are you talking about? Infinity didn't fight Odin; Infinity mind controlled Odin, Thor snapped Odin out of it, and Odin one shotted Infinity. Also, all Infinity did was send a few planets to his world of darkness, and mind control the people living on those planets. He didn't cause universal levels of damage, and Odin didn't fix the universe, most of the damage Infinity caused was limited to Earth, and Odin only fixed the damage that was on Earth. Galactus was very weak and hungry, because when he fought King Thor, most of the planets were gone, and the planets that were left were few and far between. Even Thor's granddaughters were able to break Galactus's helmet, and they were just regular Asgardians with weapons that were no stronger than mjolnir. On top of that, Galactus beat King Thor, before Thor got amped by the necrosword.
@@kristiankember8973 Odin negged a flame that would destroy an infinite multiverse, which is abive anything in the DBS timeline. He also tore at the very fabric of said infinite multiverse, while heavily weakened. At half power, he defeated infinity, whi literally merged with the marvel universe itself. I got more feats for Odin, but he easily scales above beerus.
Destruction energy seems to be much different from an actual Hakai technique being used. One works like an active erasure that is in no way contingent on a creature's power. When we see Destruction energy being used it's essentially scaled from a creature's power with the effects of the Hakai technique. It can also affect a wide area, since we see it used to literally erase an entire city all at once, so the prospect of Gohr tiring Beerus out with his minions doesn't appear partucularly likely.
@Sollie Woodford Tell that to Frieza and Vegeta. I'm also pretty shure that Hakai will not work on Angels nor on Zeno, it propably doesn't work on other deastroyer gods. So your claim is false, if being has enough power it can resist Hakai.
I wish comics etc were not so terribly inconsistent.... Thor being apparnetly this multi lightspeed or more being... but then fights a posessed Wolverine and states Wolvi is too fast for him..... it makes no sense.
Yeah, that was pretty weird. Knull has been killing many Gods for possibly millions or billions of years. So you would think the sword wouldn't change much after Gorr obtain it.
@@vagabond4576 Marvel Gods and GOW Gods are on a complete different level of power. The GOW Zeus is big continet level, the Marvel Zeus is multi-galaxy level
ネコCat Gorr gets destroyed by them, since it’s Ronald Reynolds, Sentry and the Void combined.And it’s half of Sentry’s power, half of the Void’s power.Sentry fought World Breaker Hulk to a standstill, and the Void fought Sentry, Sorcerer Supreme Loki And god Dr. Strange.
I know this is late but chuck i got one thing that seems overlooked here. In dbz speed CANT time travel its entirely different physics. Goku has proven his speed transcends time. But time travel in DbZ doesnt seem to be tied to speed. The three methods we see of time travel are with a time machine (which is more accurately a dimensional travel machine.) the time Ring, and whis staff. So Failed time machine and two magic items.
I seriously don’t understand how people can put Goku at 5-7D they obviously don’t understand how dimensions work, capability is way different from naturally for example: if we in the real world invent time travel and can travel back in time are we automatically 4D or do we just have the capability to access the 4D? Likewise obtaining enough power to use timeskip does not put a being in 4D it just shows they have 4D capability, same with Whis’ staff, a true 4D being has the natural capability to travel through time, meaning they didn’t have to gain power, speed or anything, they were inherently born into the 4th dimension
Thanks so much for watching!
To go further in depth;
Gorr also has the ability to create bladed weapons and regenerate, which are quite neat and would come in handy in the battle. Now, regarding the whole
"inaccessible speed" deal, I honestly had some Mandela effect and thought I had seen Goku & Trunks moving in the void, but even so, it's quite likely they would be able to through scaling. Even in Dragon Ball Z, we have seen characters toy with timespace like Gotenks and Super Buu by affecting dimensions through raw power alone. In the anime, Super Buuhan was going to collapse dimensions with his vice shout to destroy the living universe. Buu's shield was intended to protect him from the destruction itself, yet Vegito punched through it. If Beerus and Goku while extremely suppressed were going to wipe out the timespace and they got progressively more powerful, and we know that time-based abilities & speed can be countered and are clearly connected to raw power, then Beerus should be highly capable of being able to move and fight in a timeless void.
Also, I do know that the hakai and the hakai energy are two different techniques, but they both do the same thing of manipulating and wiping out souls, so it doesn't matter.
Regarding the second Goku Black VS Gorr battle, I'd use Xenoverse/Heroes scaling for Goku Black to see if he would win. Please let me know if you'd like me to make it! Also, the World of Void in Dragon Ball is clearly not a timeless void because they literally mention there is a time limit.
Pls do some naruto pls
Chuck
Awesome video, but I’m a little confused about the part with Beerus’ Hakai.
You mention that Goku and Vegeta were able to counter the technique through their raw power alone. As we know, they are technically mortals.
What’s confusing me is that you brought up Gorr’s physiology, but he’s also a mortal, just like Goku and Vegeta. I don’t quite understand how that’s different.
Since he’s more powerful and durable than Beerus, shouldn’t the Hakai technique not even work on him? Or is it because he’s from the Marvel universe and even if he were to power up, it wouldn’t change anything because their laws of physics are different?
And when you say the Hakai can be countered through “raw power,” is that literal energy, like ki, and not physical strength? If you or anyone else can help clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Chuck Can you power scale Ghost Rider/Zarathos? I feel that he’s highly underrated.
Chuck I think you're forgetting I remember it mentioned at one point in that story that killing so many gods actually turned Gorr into a god. I remember thor actually speaking with the sword and convincing it to leave gorr since gorr became what he hated.
PLease make the 2nd battle between Goku Black and Gorr. I would love to see it!
"My name is Gorr, son of a nameless father, outcast from a forgotten world. I have slain my way through multitudes to stand here at the genesis of all things. Blackened by vengeance, wet with holy blood. One simple dream still strong in my heart... The dream of a godless age."
~ Gorr the God Butch
Gorr sounds like the manifestation of Reddit Atheism. "Wake up sheeple"
I honestly thought this was gonna be
Gorr:Everything you just said...
Beerus:Hakia...
@@hectorbarrera8046 hahahaha
@@hectorbarrera8046 so true.
@@pdors94 Well, you're not wrong.😄👍
Gorr looks like a Dr Seuss character smashed voldemort.
*I wouldn't dare say that to his face though*
I would not, could not pray to God, I would not could not with a cod. I would not pray to gods of rain, I only pray to bring the pain
The butcher with the blade. By Dr Seuss
I would
Made my day
@@pizzas4breakfast That made total sense and I totally understood it
Now do farmer with a shotgun vs the policeman who arrested thanos
That would destroy the omniverse no contest
LeaderOfTheLostSouls how could you forget about shrek
P.s you spelled mugged wrong
Nah that battle would suck
Vegeta (dbz) Vs Laharl (Disgaea) would be a better battle to see than that
IceAssassin25 what are talking that would best fight in the multi-verse
In all seriousness that vegeta vs laharl would be cool
I just want some good battles to be done but Its mostly joke battles or comic fights these days that people want to see
Kratos: I am the god killer
Gorr: Hold my necro sword
FaLCoN - X nah
@@admiralkipper4540 Debatable. Kratos killed Gods & Titans.
wanker.... Kratos will kill him with his alpha chad beard
@@davidortiz3094 those gods are nothing compared to the gods in marvel
@@thecouncil1015 You’re kinda wrong. Gods, confirmed by Cory Barlog, are 5D at the lowest, & get more powerful by just existing. So, bare minimum inaccessible &, via Hermès scaling, infinite speed feats. Tartarus, a Primordial being that’s infinite in size, was threatened by other Primordial entities that created the cosmology. They themselves were later surpassed by the Titans, Olympians, then Kratos. In GOW 2018, the Valkyries could travel through realms with different time-spaces by sheer speed, which is irrelevant speeds since they’re dimension hopping.
This video was fire. Gorr is easily one of my favorite comic book characters in recent years.
Thank you!
Man this whole video was great Chuck. From the shaggy jokes and the knowledge of everything. Love it Chuck. Thank you for uploading again.
@@demontiming3234 salty dragon ball fan detected
xbg Samurai somebody’s a little wa wa baby boy
@@demontiming3234 dude go read something about Gorr
Gorr: We have an army.
Beerus: I have a Whis.
Lol whis would wreck gor
@@sheep4065 Whis doesnt even touch Gorr. gorr would even r*pe Zeno
@@gohanblanco5641 Maybe Zeno cause he simply doesn't have enough feats, but scaling Whis off of Goku or Beerus, Hes able to casually one shot these low to mid multiversal characters with a karate chop. Whis claps
@@abner_.silveira8845 idk who tf is this gorr and I don't care but zeno is doggy infront of dc or marvel
@@LowyBoii cap. The flash would annihilate Zeno
Also remember that Beerus can theoretically use Ultra Instinct, making him that much faster and stronger, I believe if he was backed into a corner he could access this form and maybe win
Big facts
He doesn't have to start losing, he simply activates it and moves instinctively.
PURPLE TURTLES he doesn’t have it mastered
@@mevincool he dosnt need it mastered. Even just ui omen is strong enough to bring u above god status in super. In a guide it was stated that Goku when he went ui omen the 3rd time it was stated that he had surpassed Beerus. So if Goku was able to surpass Beerus and other certain gods with just ui omen then Beerus who is actually a god used ui omen he would be the strongest god.
That is the manga
Gorr: Who DARES stray before THE GOD BUTCHER ?!
Kratos: A Spartan...
gorr would destroy kratos 0 difficulty
Gorr: *fuses with Giorno*
Gorno: *Oh your approaching me??*
@@Toddles kratos would rip gorr apart
Toddles they would be friends to be honest, they both hate gods so yeah
@@wavyiann9788 Yeah, true
Imagine how edgy a Gorr/Goku Black fusion would be
Goku Black with the All Black Necrosword
Divine energy scythe in one hand.
Power sapping Necrosword in the other.
*The ultimate god killer.*
He'd probably slit his throat on all this edge
ShadOW THE hEDGEhog
Why the hell would they wanna fuse anyhow? Their ideology’s are fundamentally different.
*we need more GokuSupermanlover9000*
I missed him
@@kgnightcry8118 me to man 😢
Who is that
Sonny Woods LEAVE NOW
@@sonnywoods6846 he is a very intellectual person who exposed Seth the programer and geekdom101
Chuck gets all the props from me for putting on Marvel comics characters and many other obscure ones as well to many ppl who don’t
Lmao stay mad dragon ball fanboy, your anime is trash
cool horse ha lol so true this guy was in like three other comments on this vid all saying chuck was bais he is probably just upset that his anime gets rekt in all continuities by marvel
cool horse
Your opinion
Gorr is such a badass that he became a universe, he is the ultimate chad
I like how people like Jiren and Beerus are just upsurdly overpowered. And it's all just in their base forms. Like if you give Jiren a super sayian 1 or ss2 buff, he'd beat ultra instinct Goku no prob
You mean "Super Jiren"? He's not a saiyan...lol.
@@lordbeerus8104
Clearly
I'm just saying it'd be crazy to give these guys a ×50 or ×100 to their base power
@@ajaderabbit8399 No I'm just saiyan
A Jade Rabbit I mean I suppose but by that logic really any character on Berrus or jirens scale given that boost would also be able to do that. I know all of these fights are as pure as speculation gets but taking into account multipliers for characters that don’t exist seems iffy.
Saiyans are powerful too, it’s just a different form of power, Jiren has a strong base while Saiyans have a weaker base with forms to make up for it.
15:03
Time travelling with speed and speed alone really just grinds my gears. Comic fiction writers just really liked to go above and beyond, plus ultra, with these superpowers
Technically it's possible. But only forward and your not really time traveling
It was implied that Toppo hadn't fully mastered the hakai, so we don't know if the version the other gods of destruction use is more effective. if the one toppo uses is incomplete then the same one that Sidra gave his minion would also be a weaker version by comparison, so Beerus's hakai could possibly still effect stronger beings to an extent.
Toppo is not even 1% of Beerus
I wanna see Beerus full Hakaishin mode just like Toppo did, and Beerus can go Ultra Instinct but haven't mastered, that would look insane Full God mode with a touch of Ultra Instinct...
How is Beerus gonna go God of Destruction mode if he's already a God of Destruction? Toppo wasn't a God of Destruction,thats why he got that transformation that gave him some power of a God of Destruction
@@MW_Asura Yes but i mean like full power, all the Hakai aura at 100% with Ultra Instinct.
@@jesseandersen3506 Oh ok
MW Asuraツ toppo was actually in destruction mode. All the purple aura around him was the power of destruction which all the other Gods can go in also.
The New yeah he was bewildered because Goku is a mortal achieving Godly feats. Beerus was well aware that Goku was using ultra instincts when they first saw it. Whis didn’t even needed to state it. It’s not even an an assumption beerus has it but more common sense.
Thanks to you and Seth, I'm starting to get into power scaling characters. I enjoy researching and comparing different characters from different continuity. Good job on the video Chuck
One Punch man is the strongest
@@pastoryoda2789 werido...no one asked...and he's fodder to DBZ. The Ginyu team would smoke him.
@@thediaz07 in prison i used to pin little guys like you down
And i did that to your mom
What's this low- mid range multi universal buster level on Beerus. (What is "low-mid multiuniversal"? That is too vague.)
A suppressed Beerus fighting Champa were going to destroy universe 6 and 7.
The fact Beerus was legit using about 1% of his power on SSG Goku, and you even told us Goku absorbed SSG into his base.
Goku in base form by that logic could destroy at least half a universe if not more now as SSG and Beerus were going to destroy the universe. That times his SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSG again, SSGB, and even Kaioken, or SSB Mastered in the manga.
IN WHICH WAS smacked down by Beerus against Vegeta SSB Mastered without sweating, telling him to his face at that rate it would take him hundreds of years to be near his level.
To USE your OWN scaling along with Seth's, Beerus is much much more than just multi universal level.
To better scale Beerus, you should of scaled him to Goku and Vegeta in which we do know their power.
I would debate, especially since he confirmed the strongest GoD, Beerus is a 4D character. Suppressed Jiren was not affected by time, and incomplete UI was shaking an infinite void.
It would be head cannon, but I believe all of us that watch Dragonball intensely would agree Beerus should be stronger than incomplete UI in all introductions, besides maybe its final introduction against Jiren, as he got stronger each time receiving it. (Anime)
It would only be MUI that surpassed him.
If you could scale Beerus to those standards and call him 4D, then the debate would be quick and simple. Unless you believe he is 3D then scale him the other way.
4D> Any power at 3D
If Gorr is confirmed 4D then he too could be an easy beat on Beerus if you didn't believe he was.
I would say its safe to say, Gorr is not 4D but has insane power at a 3D scale. Unless anyone can give me feats, in which I would be totally open for as I just don't know the character very well.
The most you can debate is Future Thor who is "supposedly stronger than Odin" should be 4D as Odin may have 4D feats. But I'm not sure if he does. 4D feats from Odin would be hard to measure as uses Magic, and Marvel loves those characters messing anything they can and use the excuse they have it.
Either way, I love you Chuck, but I feel like you could scaled better.
Low multiversal can range from two to a thousand times universal, while mid multiversal can be 1001 - infinite times universal.
So yeah, beerus is mid multiversal. Chuck was right. Seth uses this term as well.
I'd rank beerus in those millions of times universal ranges.
Current Odin is OP as well. He negged a flame capable of wiping out infinite universes and stalemated jane foster thor, who held off shuma gorath.
Current Odin is also mid multiversal and comparable to his classic levels of power.
Not only that, but there was never any statement saying that Odin got weaker. So yeah, even still, current Odin is multiversal.
More than a match for beerus.
Also, dont like your own comment.
@@belikebrett mid multiversal is standard multiversal.
Also, low multiversal is his lowball. Chuck even has vegeta from the goku black arc beyond low multiversal.
I'd say he is right to put beerus at low to mid multiversal.
@@homer886 Ok I could be wrong but I thought it read low-mid UNIVERSAL. Not MULTIUNIVERSAL.
And he should scale Goku to Thor along with multiple ones then scale that to Beerus. Easier and more accurate scaling.
Odin is a VERY magical type guy. Not all raw power.
Thor being stronger or equal to Odin could be fighting experience and raw power. I dont think anyone can match his magical powers.
Him putting out a fire from the world tree does not prove any raw power.
Knowing Marvel, Scarlet Witch could do the same if they did it.
Comics are anime plot on steroids
@@belikebrett Odin has, with brute force alone beaten characters who scale to him magic wise.
Odins magic should be relativistic to his strength.
I see the reason why he's hates Gods now
Well the Gods were fighting off a dude who wanted to kill everything.
@@l0sts0ul89 That's so simple and stupid why would he want to destroy everything what's the point why?
@@firstnamelastname1523 he doesn't want to destroy everything. He simply wants to destroy all of the gods from all of existence. He created a God bomb which was intended to go detonate and cause ripples through all realities and multiverse and timelines, killing/erasing every god ever... but regular beings would be left alone. So life would still go on, just without the gods who were barely even there for the mortals in the first place. Gorr lost and suffered so much for a long time and lost hope that the were even any gods to pray to. But then he saw with his own eyes that they were real and felt the power they possessed for himself. This made him snap. God's were real. Gods were powerful beyond belief. And gods were selfish for not using this power to help the better the lives of all those who suffer.
That and the fact that the sword is super crazy and powerful af. It led him to more and more gods as it had an unquenchable thirst for god blood.
But yeah you should read good story if you get a chance. Artwork and writing is great. It may also turn you into a big thor fan.
L0ST S0UL if your referring to the chaos king then no, he attacked the multiverse thousands of years after gorr found the necro sword at least. If you’re referring to null, the original owner of the necrosword, that might make sense fir that one specific god he killed but even before that I’m pretty sure they were being asses that didn’t do anything for gorrs world.
@@l0sts0ul89 You mean Knull?
It would be cool if we could get a powerscale on dante and vergil from devil may cry.
Beyond universal
Well now they obtain sin devil form....surely they're stronger than Mundus...a demon that can make his own dimensions
Paul Harenchar beyond universal to multi -universal is were you could put them
Go to VS battle wiki.
Don't you dare compare toppo and Sidra to beerus
Agree
Buress hakai is far more powerful
He hakai zamaso when he is imortal
@@ameenwajhi1062 english.exe has stopped working?
@@Valor1610 Lol hes English.exe is Crashed 😂
Gorr one-shots this isn't even close
naahhhhhh idk about that. he would def win like 7-8/10 but idk about a one shot lol i would def love to see a “gorr finds the dragonball pantheon gods” comic one shot tho 😂
OOOHH CHUCK UPLOADED???????
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?!?!?!
0:13 I don't think Screw Attack even knows who Gorr is.
They mentioned gorr in their wonder woman vs Thor video.
And Ultron vs Sigma.
Oof
They know
Screwattack shouldn't be taken seriously. Dudes wanked WW holding the force of 1/3rd of the Earth but never mentioned Thor withstood the weight of 20 planets
I don't know who this "Gore" is but he is no match for me
Beerus Sama gorr is like whis ur noting to him bruzz
@@azi.q Hakai.
Beerus Sama hakai doesn’t work on someone stronger
@@Prince_of_Despair Hakai
@@azi.q you're not stronger baka 😑
Nice video Chuck, sweetly edited. I have some doubts about certain things tho.
How do you know Mephisto and Galactus were going to destroy those other dimensions and not just the living universe of the dimension they were in?
Yes, Goku moved in the void. He literally floated to where Zeno was. A feat that as I see it would prove Beerus has immesurable speed is by using Goku's feat of moving in Hit's time skip, which is even more impressive than moving in stopped time. Also, trillions of times FTL is an extreme lowball since their hits reached the Kai realm almost instantly, and that has been calced to be at least quintillions of times FTL and that's Beerus using way less than 1% of his power.
The Thor feat in which he traveled in time I think is REALLY unfair to use, because that has more to do with how the physics in that marvel universe worked WHEN THE COMIC WAS DRAWN. It worked in a way that if he moved his hammer twice the speed of light he would time travel. That's literally saiyan saga level.
But the thing I mostly don't understand is, how can Goku Black apparently be able to damage Gorr, a characters that's apparently so much stronger and faster than Beerus himself? I'm definetly not seeing that. Gorr would be suppressed the whole time vs Black? I don't even see Black being able to adapt from Rosé level to freaking BEERUS level (that should be equal or below Omen 3 Goku himself, who was way more powerful than 110 Jiren who was already stronger than Infinite Zamasu, a better version of Black). Every time Black adapted was vs someone who was somewhat relative to him, making the power-up not ASTRONOMICAL. The biggest power-up he had was after fighting Goku for the first time, but what happened there was that Black was fully able to use Goku's body properly, or use it's full power/potential properly, that's what he implied.
Those are the things that make me scratch my head on this matter, but other than that great analysis!
xbg Samurai yeah magic based does not make since as this Thor had magic powers stronger than his fathers along with the fact that the power up he got was stronger than his fathers and Thor called it the Thor force not to mention that the necro sword allowed this Thor to one shot galactus and gorr has it oh and I’m along with every comic book fan so tired of when dragon ball fanboys try to make it seem like marvel and dc are only powerful with there hacks even though they have on many occasions fought with raw powers and do it all of the time like with Odins battle with Seth were they WERE DESTROYING TGE INFINITE MARVEL MULTIVERSE oh and in terms of speed he scales off of Thor who can himself move through time along with fighting with people who move through time so just so you know gore is stronger than Old King Thor who was stronger than the previously stated with raw power mid multiverse level plus along with being faster than this Thor who is faster than his regular version who has moved through time being immeasurable and on top of all that gorr has as his main weapon a sword capable of beating a WELL FED GALACTUS WHO IS AT LEAST HYPERVERSAL If well fed along with hax on par with sky fathers Luke Odin and Thor not to mention being able to easily destroy elder gods who can by them self’s solo the council of god heads who are atleast mid multiversal to mid multiverse level plus so all in all gorr is faster stronger has stronger weapons and way better hax so yes gorr stomps now stop being a dragon ball fanboy and accept that
@@demontiming3234 There was no ssb in battle of gods arc
At first I thought it would be a one sided slap from beerus but I didn’t know a lot about Gorr. Well presented and was very interesting topic
I’m surprised no one yet said
“But we haven’t seen beerus at full power” lol
So sad that Shaggy isn’t in MK11.😔
I care😢
Tempapi I also care!
See people care
@Eggy Boi Raiden = Immortal hrmmm ooopsie
@Eggy Boi isnt raiden immortal though
Chuck, Zeno did not wipe out the entire timeline, even though Goku said that he did, that is just what he thought. Zeno wiped out the Zamasua faces that were controlling part of the timeline, that is why they were able to go back in time. When they did go back in time they found out that Zeno was still there and that it was a prettier place and there were no more Zamasuas left in that dimension.
Proof It?
The Rock it’s literally explained in my comment.
@@bald8273 It was stated that did actually annihilate the entire timeline.If he didn't he could have returned to his palace.
The Rock if he annihilated the entire timeline how did they go back?
@@bald8273 Chuck did explained about this.Either way, it doesn't matter as it was stated.
They didn't go back to that time line. A new timeline got created that's why they said it'll be awkward with two sets of Trunks and Mai.
Do Gurren Laggan power scale
This please, Gurren Lagann gets low bawled so much people think theyre just galaxy+ :(
@@oohyah7 Yeah man people think he is 11D. He is clearly wall level which is above Outerversal.
@@purgatory1022 I'm a big lagann tard but 11D is probably a high bawl, I put GL in the 5D - 11D range, 5D being a low bawl, shit Simon himself is complex multiversal from just him absorbing the multiversal labyrinth which was a actual physical attack the anti spiral used haha
Multiverse busters no contest
Gurren Lagaan starts off as a simple mech anime.. and then Kamina dies and shit gets real crazy. Next thing you know, a muscular blue haired man is blinking an infinite multiverse into his space mech to fight a supreme godlike being using FIGHTING SPIRIT
The God Butcher arc was so good. Definitely my favorite Thor storyline.
I have an idea you culd make a video like the Thor video you made like at first talk about his constant power level and then talk about their most powerful versiones just with Doctor DOOM.
Try COIE Anti-Monitor vs Cosmic Cube Thanos
COIE Should win
Amany Ekongolo Bebe cosmic cube thanos is universal. COIE Anti Monitor is multiversal
@17carramirez yes
cc is omniversal
@17carramirez not even close. Mobius is pathetic in front of COIE AM
the thing about time travel and speed and stuff is that its all up to the writer's interpretation.
For example, if any of these characters moved at light speed in the real world then there would be a lot of problems for everyone on earth or anyone in the universe. The conclusion we can draw from this is that Physics isn't the same in the Marvel universe as it is in our own universe. Likewise for dragonball. If characters were throwing punches at the speed of light there would be a whole host of problems for anyone around them. Massive explosions vaporizing everything around them. So we can conclude that Physics isn't the same in the dragonball universe.
My point in all this is that saying "well this guy in this universe time travelled with his speed and this person in the other universe didn't" isn't really relevant since maybe time travel doesn't work like that in the other universe. Its not just a matter of speed but rather the conditions the writers set in place for that feat to occur. This is why we can't say things like "only a stand can hurt another stand" and then say no one can ever hurt star platinum since he is a stand. That statement only works for jojo's universe which has crafted physics for that universe alone. Its also why you can't say Saitama solo's everyone because he isn't meant to lose. That's the reality of his own universe, not the reality outside of it.
The problem with comics (both american and japanese) is that they like to just increase the power level instead of crafting a thought out narrative. Writers don't necessarily think of the implications of physics and science when they make their characters do cool stuff. A character travelling across the universe in 30 minutes? Its cool but what would that actually mean? Then you have that same character throwing punches that you can see aren't really as fast as that previous travelling speed.
Its simply rule of cool.
I'm not saying if gorr could beat beerus since I don't know. I literally know next to nothing about gorr aside from what chuck said in this video. I also understand the importance of calculating feats in order to determine who would win (if character's x can lift 500lbs and character y can lift 600lbs then obviously y is stronger) but when looking at stuff like speed and what not its not really that great of an idea to use what happens because of that speed as a measuring stick. Or what happens because of that strength, or stamina, etc. Results can change based on the physics of the universe. Obviously Thor isn't destroying the planet every time he swings his fist. Obviously goku and frieza didn't blow up the planet just by throwing hands.
I liked your video though man. I like it when people take the time to calmly explain things and its always nice to learn something about a character I knew nothing about. Keep up the good work man
Didn't knew gor could be that powerful. If beerus hakai doesn't work, then it's gonna be pretty bad for our cat GoD. Nice video as always.
What a gorrsome video. Thanks Chuck
gorr: family dies of thirst and starvation
*_decides to build a weapon that can literally kill gods_*
me:seems legit
He didn't build it, he took it from a dying god
Superboy prime vs gorr would be an interesting fight especially if Superboy had his Yellow lantern powers
Superboy Prime
@Mikey Garcia yea i think yes
If Gorr looses, I riot.
Edits: I'm glad to see someone who finally gets it.
Thor vs Goku? Can even do a Rune King Thor or Phoenix King Thor vs UI Goku and SSJ4 Goku?
what could UI goku do to rune king thor honestly? this thor has norse stones to see the past, present and future of all things basically nigh omnipotent, and odin force, he even wiped a being out of existence with just a thought
@@DimiArt Oh, I for sure know RKT wins. He solos DBverse.
gokijin gokus son can wipe all of Asgard’s gods wym and he only a kid
@@isaias8996 You're obviously ignorant to what the God's of Asgard can do. Especially Rune King Thor and Phoenix King Thor. Just stop. UI Goku would die horribly. If Thor, Odin, Hela, Loki, or any one of them stop time, actually stop time, not some dumbass time skip, stop time and kill him, it doesn't matter how hard he hits.
RKT and PKT have way too many hacks. Standard Thor would beat his ass to death. Just stop.
Papa Cakes fanboy
Ya know what,there may not be a fancy animation......there may not be two,semi funny people here to narrate facts
But the things that kept me entertained,was how much i smiled at the small jokes you made,from "it really be like that tho" to ultra instinct Norville Rogers(Shaggy's actual name)....I'll give you props my guy,you know how to keep up to date with this generation,keep up the good work
P.S. i lost my train of thought while writing this,i had no intention to get back on track.....so if you're confused,i implore you to just ignore it
Awesome video as always!!!
Haven’t watch the video but I say beerus
Go watch his Odin vs beerus video
@@jekjek2783 I think Chuck wanks Odin too much. His entire argument for why Odin is on the level of Beerus, is pretty flawed. He said that Odin is on Beerus's level because he destroyed galaxies just by fighting, but it was stated that if Beerus and Champa fought, it would destroy universes. He also said that Odin is multiversal because he "nullified" a fire that spread across the world tree. But he didn't nullify it, he just opened a portal and sent the fire somewhere else. Saying that makes Odin multiversal is like saying that Minato is stronger than Kurama because he teleported one of Kurama's tailed beasts bombs away from his village. I know Odin is strong, but he's never shown any feats that would put him above universal +. Meanwhile, Beerus has been shown to be far above SSB Goku, and at this point, Goku is universal + in his base form.
@@logicseeker3770 u say he wanks Odin but all you anime plebs dickeat of these weak ass characters😭
@@logicseeker3770 Odin absorbed the life of Surtur and was an equal to The eternal Flame. He also ripped the 10th realm and sealed it into a hut.
@@Prince_of_Despair he absorbed God form into his base, which had almost destroyed the universe against Beerus so.... No, it is not wank
We never saw beerus at full power not even 30%
We've seen him at 70% in battle of gods he even said it himself
@pain giver oh nvm then
@pain giver stronger than "a god" they specifically say it like this multiple times for a reason
@pain giver Beerus never claimed goku was stronger than him in ultra instinct omen, that was something from a jump magazine which the magazine writer wrote, none of the show writers claimed this. Beerus 1 shot mastered ssb vegeta and fought all gods of destruction at the same time in the manga. Jiren never 1 shot ssb goku or vegeta. Ultra instinct is never, not even once, described as "beyond all the gods entirely". where did you even get that from? i've seen every super episode and am up to date with the manga, not once was that said.
@pain giver Saying beerus isn't on jirens level is mere speculation, toriyama is still saving beerus for a reason. The prophecy still hasn't come true yet, the manga makes this clear. (And dbs will be following the manga strictly when it returns)
You literally explained inaccessible speed for Beerus, then say Gorr is stronger, faster more powerful without explaining Beerus's power at all. You basically said he'd lose because he's slower. Dropped the ball big time on that one.
Mad dragon ball fanboys are mad
Wendy and Mike Terell Lmao, How they’re mad when they didn’t get a full fight?
Still gorr defeated all of the elder gods a hakaishin wont be much of a problem
Yaboi Derrick because you guys can’t realize that you’re universe isn’t nothing compared to marvel and dc I mean you’re universe peaks out at most to low multiverse level while dc and marvel peak out at outerversal
Jesus. Everytime you do kne of these vids, I cant fathom just how ridiculously powerful Dragonball characters are.
Beerus has no chance a thousand beerus could not stand against gorr
An example of a multiversal level threat in the Dragon Ball universe. Would be the adverse affects of two God's of Destruction fighting. This was explained by Whis to be taboo. Because the singularity caused by their battle. Threatens both universes of the Gods of Destruction clashing.
Nicholas Houzenga destroying 2 universes isn’t multiversal
@@percytheone by definition it is, tho.
Unless they made a new scale for only two universes.
Tobi Madara but by scaling it isn’t. Being multiversal consist of being able to destroy 1001 or more universes at the same time
@@percytheone low multiversal: 2 universes simultaneously.
Multiversal: 3-1000 universes simultaneously
High multiversal: 1001-infinity universes simultaneously.
High multiversal+: uncountably infinite universes simultaneously, or otherwise just affect 5-D constructs.
It's all on levels, man. It always is.
You can't just sum up everything in one go like that you feel me ?
@@retardosexual If they are fighting in the same universe its just universal you bafoon.
I kinda always wondered how beerus and champa are brothers when they are from different universes
I didn't watch the video so far but. did you not say beerus is on the level of odin? if those two characters are approximately equal. gorr should shit on beerus
gorr shit on 3 thors. and all father (old king thor) was one of them. and old king thor is already more powerful than odin
old king thor`s odin force empowered god blast was not enough to kill gorr. so i dont think there is even a chance for beerus to kill him/knock him out.
Nice vid Chuck
Great Video and explanation. It would be a epic battle with these 2.
King Thor is pretty cool
Odin Best Papa tho ;)
I wanna know more about mangogg. I feel like he’s a really underrated character and I would really appreciate it if you did a video on him!
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𝘊𝘩𝘶𝘤𝘬'𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘮 𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥
Love your videos Man keep them up
OK I'm gonna say this once. Don't compare db's multiverse to marvels multiverse because marvel literally has a near infinite number of universe's in their multiverse. Dragon Ball has only 12. Beerus multiverse level feats aren't comparable to Odin's multiversal level feats. I love your videos man but come on now. I know you love dragon ball but you and Seth need to stop comparing and saying multiversal level feats from db as being equal to multiversal level feats of characters from marvel or DC. Marvel and DC multiversal feats are more impressive because their multiverse is a shit ton more larger than db's multiverse. Plus the hakai can't work on beings powerful enough to resist it.
Zeno is not as powerful as people make him out too be.
@Tyler Gilbert Zeno is only 4D.
@Tyler Gilbert I don't think jiren is above time. If anything by going off of how ki works in dragon ball it's safe to assume when jiren was trapped in the time cage, he didn't overpower time, he overpowered hit's power which the cage was made of which was trapping him in suspended animation. Not to mention hit gets weaker with his time warping the stronger the opponent. Zeno is only 4D in power but 3D overall since there are multiple versions of himself in other timelines.
@@paulharenchar9169 I don't think zeno is only 3D since time and space in dragon ball seem to work somewhat differently from other series since goku and trunks went to a timeline that was destroyed somehow.
@@bigjayjay2x597
There are different versions of him in each time peroid, meaning he doea not transcend time lile the top gods of Marvel and DC do.
@@bigjayjay2x597 you gotta look at the basics though of tiering. Let me explain, if you were 4d, you would be above time. You would be the same person in every timeline and time wouldn't split you up by having counterparts in other timelines. Take darkseid from DC for example. In every timeline be it their post crisis, pre crisis, new 52, or rebirth he is the same person. Low and high end focus on how much of time you can manipulate. Zeno like hit has 4d capabilities with time skip and destroying a timeline but they have duplicates in other timelines making them 3D like everyone else physically. Also about the timeline destruction, I see it as completely nothing. A frozen suspended animation with nothing. Nothing moves, revolves, there is no space only void if you get me. Completely nothing so I wouldn't say it's completely different in the logic department.
Just wait until The dragon ball series has gone on as long as Marvel, the powers and scaling will be just as crazy, that’s how fighting entertainment works (with the exception of SCP, they just started with the most crazy stuff)
AJs Videos I doubt it. Marvel had Hyperversal beings since the first episode of dragon ball let alone dbs. It’s playing catch-up and it won’t change anytime soon.
Saheteraba Kutisha I don’t think Toriyama cares about marvel in particular, and DB characters will just get stronger over time naturally, and whilst marvel did start off with strong characters overall they’ve been getting stronger, with more and more ridiculous feats
AJs Videos I never said toryama cared. I said dragon ball is playing catch up with its characters.
More ridiculous feats? You do realize Zeno is child compared to what marvel has right? The beyonder destroyed 13 billion dimensions with ONE blast.
And that was in the 70s. So far marvel has introduced a race that is makes what the beyonder did look like nothing. My point is that dbs is still growing. It says something when the god of your verse is a child unit in another.
Saheteraba Kutisha yeah, so we agree, so long as Toei doesn’t shut down, there’ll be something to be stronger than Zeno and then stronger than him and so on, I just object to the phrase ‘playing catch up’ but I see what you mean, at this stage it’s not even close, because they’ve only just reached multiversal, but dragon ball is still going relatively strong, so I don’t see why more and more transformations won’t stack to the point where the series is viable in actual top tier power scaling arguments
AJs Videos The gap is huge. Not to say that Dbz is weak, but they have as much a chance at reaching Marvels power as avatar has at reaching DBZs.
I agree it is growing. But so is marvel. New gods and multiversal beings are being added in. I’m saying that DBZ has quite a while to even be relevant.
DBZ is going strong I guess. So they’re is a possibility. Maybe.
living tribunal vs beerus or cosmic armor superman vs beerus
That not even a fight or a contest the living tribunal and comsic armor superman alone rapes zeno they are both hyperversal while dragon ball at max is just multiversal
@@00Grimreaper00 not even multiversal, more like multi universe, because there are only 18 universes in Dragonball.Multiverse contains infinite amount of universe
@@00Grimreaper00 living tribunal or cosmic armour Superman
are outerveral not hyperversal
Great vid
Have to understand , it doesn't matter who you are at heart the hakai technique erases anything whis said"theres not a thing that beerus cannot destory" . Beerus is theoretically the strongest destruction god, sidra so happens to be one of the weakest ones and toppo isnt even a full destruction god, hes just a candidate (supposedly under sidra). Also we have never seen what beerus can actually do, his "70% power" was just a motivator for goku to try to push beerus to 100% in gokus mind. In theory beerus wasnt even trying at all, at the end of the fight beerus had like one scratch on him and goku was barely alive and was beaten up badly
gorr is much powerfull but he didn't know that if he wants to kill beerus he have to kill Supreme Kai
Gorr wins
Marquis Of Death vs DBS
Marquis of Death would megastomp.
Marquis of Death RKOs DBS Angels included
(Looks up the Marquis of deaths feats... sees some "meta" abilities) sigh... :/ more like a ROFLSTOMP tbh.
I stomp
The New boi the dude waves his darned hand a wiped out the multiverse -_-
Gorr seems pretty interesting.
Also Chuck giving us another quality content.
Hello there. Nice to able to find well made content (Atleast IMO) of what i would call the original worthwhile argument of childhoods and times of leisure for men of culture. lol subscribed and liked. Good job on the video, continue doing so if you're able to..I won't obsessively and wrongfully say you must,have got to,etcetera.
Do a video about warhammer 40K
I wonder who would win
Feed galactus vs the Phoenix force
Superman vs cosmic spiderman
The Phoenix Force Superman
RuneKingCrow I think a very well fed galactus could beat the Phoenix and yes the Superman one is right
@@wendyandmiketerell997 idk maybe a full Galactus but a well fed? Idk
but What if Beerus unlocks ultra/ master Instincts during the fight?
Ameir Adil That likely won’t happen. Why would that work? What would the Ultra instinct do that the Odin Force can’t?
@@saheterabakutisha1476 make beerus much stronger and faster?
lil Berry22 And a speed and strength buff is better than the Odin force?
@@saheterabakutisha1476 well if gorr can't touch beerus but beerus can touch gorr then yeah....
@@saheterabakutisha1476 rbh i do not have much knoledge in all of marvel but I still love marvel
14:10 You know, I never realized this plot hole till now. Going to a timeline that was erased?! Maybe Zeno ended up in a void outside the timeline ?
Great vid. Except you did forget to mention that beerus does scale to infinite Zamasu whom he didn't even perceive as a threat and would eventually become a High Multiversal being. As he would be able to become one with many Multiversal+ sized universes.
You also didn't mention The God Bomb ( Which destroys every god that ever existed across the Multiverse) that Gorr somewhat scales too. As Thor absorbed the blast from the God Bomb and the Necrosword to weaken Gorr.
The universes in DB are only low multiversal.
They are only 3.33 times universal in size. That's literally macrocosmal. It's not mid multiversal.
Second, to be high multiversal, you must be beyond infinitely universal. The highest zamasu would ever get is still low multiversal, seeing as how he would, at maximum, take up only 72 universe sized structures.
Low multiversal can go up to 1000 times universal.
Mid multiversal can literally go up to INFINITELY universal.
High multiversal is 5d.
Zamasu would have have gotten to 5d levels of power.
Lol nothing can beat shaggy
Farmer with a shotgun destroys shaggy lmao
El Hermano and Gohan Blanco have equal power to shaggy consult the list
I saw the meme version of Shaggy. He scales loosely to 200x Birrus at 100% base form. There are many characters in fiction. Which would require him to use Super Saiyen 1 or higher. Some like SMP 682 and his father. May be too much for him in any form.
Shaggy at 0.00000000001% created the one above all, the presence, zeno, alucard, Kirby, and killed them a million times
@@levbiggs That places him above characters like SMP 682 and his father. Though the characters above that classification in the SMP universe. Still would be equal or greater tier. I need more information about that tier in the SMP universe. To say with any certainty.
Gorr only slaps if u scale with older more op versions of Thor and Odin. Jason Aarons' Thor and Odin are not even close to multiversal. So if we used the consistency model Beerus slaps with mid to high level difficulty. Otherwise Gorr should have the advantage unless Beerus' hakai is up for the job.
beerus scales past infinite zamasu so...isn't that more impressive than anything odin has done.
Also I'd argue that time traveling character have different speeds as different verses require different speeds to time travel. like originally all you needed to do in DC was go faster than light but now its immeasurable speed.
Kristian Kember No it’s not even close to what Odin has done. Especially when he fought and beat infinity. A battle with near universal damage. And undid and fixed the cosmos after the fight.
Gorr took on a Thor who was more powerful than that. On top of a normal Thor, who was capable of breaking Galactus’s helmet. And young Thor at the same time. And won.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 restoring multiple galaxy clusters > killing a living timeline that contain multiple macrosoums as well as 2 other universe+ realms???
What is this
@@saheterabakutisha1476 He didn't and hasn't. Everything Marvel related was taken way our of context. So there are two main eras in Marvel. Classic and Modern. All of Odin's best feats are from the mostly retconned Classic era Marvel where cosmic and mystical characters were op as hell (think DC's Silver age for comparison). Modern Marvel characters are significantly weaker comparison. Modern Odin is barely small Galaxy at his peak, and is more consistently written as being solar system to multi-solar system when well rested (he was large galaxy level in his youth). Old King Thor is actually not as powerful as his father. He may be physically stronger and a better combatant, but he lacks one major thing. Despite wielding the Thor Force (which, BTW, is canonically diminished by his time) long than Odin had the Thor Force, Thor cannot manipulate reality to the same degree as his father. Remember, unlike Thor, Odin was a God of magic and sorcery, wisdom and poetry/stories which allowed him to tap into the very nature of the cosmos. The Odin Force enhanced that many fold, which is where all of his best feats come from. Thor never gad any hope of matching it.
Going into Gorr, at his peak (capable of fighting off 3 Thors) Gorr was actually a Solar system buster at best. He could only reach superluminal speeds for traveling and could only access other dimensions because of portals. In combat he might be hypersonic but that's about it. A well fed Galactus or well-rested Odin could've taken him out. I say this with confidence, because king Thor barely beat an old, practically starved, Galactus with the necrosword and Mjolnir.
@@saheterabakutisha1476 What are you talking about? Infinity didn't fight Odin; Infinity mind controlled Odin, Thor snapped Odin out of it, and Odin one shotted Infinity. Also, all Infinity did was send a few planets to his world of darkness, and mind control the people living on those planets. He didn't cause universal levels of damage, and Odin didn't fix the universe, most of the damage Infinity caused was limited to Earth, and Odin only fixed the damage that was on Earth.
Galactus was very weak and hungry, because when he fought King Thor, most of the planets were gone, and the planets that were left were few and far between. Even Thor's granddaughters were able to break Galactus's helmet, and they were just regular Asgardians with weapons that were no stronger than mjolnir. On top of that, Galactus beat King Thor, before Thor got amped by the necrosword.
@@kristiankember8973 Odin negged a flame that would destroy an infinite multiverse, which is abive anything in the DBS timeline.
He also tore at the very fabric of said infinite multiverse, while heavily weakened.
At half power, he defeated infinity, whi literally merged with the marvel universe itself.
I got more feats for Odin, but he easily scales above beerus.
In the comic, Old King Thor said that he didn’t have that much of the Thor-Force left in him when he and the other two Thors fought Gorr
Destruction energy seems to be much different from an actual Hakai technique being used. One works like an active erasure that is in no way contingent on a creature's power. When we see Destruction energy being used it's essentially scaled from a creature's power with the effects of the Hakai technique. It can also affect a wide area, since we see it used to literally erase an entire city all at once, so the prospect of Gohr tiring Beerus out with his minions doesn't appear partucularly likely.
In the manga not the anime beerus fought all the gods of destruction and was winning.
Yup he tapped into ultra instinct at that very moment but was unable to use it again
He wasnt winning to be honest he was just getting lucky
You do know manga beerus is weaker than anime beerus even with ui?
It took 3 Thor's to fight gorr . Beerus gets wrecked.
Both of the comments above lacks evidence.
@@AsianIdiots323 hakai can destroy anything. But the debate isnt hakai vs gor, its beerus vs gor.
@Sollie Woodford Vegeta Fist say Hi.
@Sollie Woodford This has already been proven false in DBS.
@Sollie Woodford Tell that to Frieza and Vegeta. I'm also pretty shure that Hakai will not work on Angels nor on Zeno, it propably doesn't work on other deastroyer gods. So your claim is false, if being has enough power it can resist Hakai.
Toopo and sidra hakai are no match for beerus hakai
Go beerus
First biggest fan
Congrats
I wish comics etc were not so terribly inconsistent.... Thor being apparnetly this multi lightspeed or more being... but then fights a posessed Wolverine and states Wolvi is too fast for him..... it makes no sense.
Lokius81 that’s non real logic for you happens everywhere
its wank don't take any of it at face value
Aye it’s ya boi Chuck tell Seth to upload please
Tobi facts
Look up geekdom gogeta vs mui goku if you want your dose of seth.
Demorris Fleming i already seen that vid
@@aayewhyy Yeah probably so. I'm just recommending it to Tobi just incase he just looking to hear from Seth again.
Gorr the god butcher using Knull sword better than Knull is doing
Yeah, that was pretty weird. Knull has been killing many Gods for possibly millions or billions of years. So you would think the sword wouldn't change much after Gorr obtain it.
I would love to see your take on Kratos vs Thanos
Honestly, Thanos would stomp, Kratos is overrated
@@obunga7083 He killed all the gods of his Patheon. That is not overrated.
@@vagabond4576 Marvel Gods and GOW Gods are on a complete different level of power.
The GOW Zeus is big continet level, the Marvel Zeus is multi-galaxy level
Gorr vs Rune king,Chaos King,Sentry in his balanced state
ネコCat Rune King Thor are on the level of celestials and Chaos King is basically Gorr(his goals), but on another level.
@@iliketacos886 what about god Sentry
ネコCat Gorr gets destroyed by them, since it’s Ronald Reynolds, Sentry and the Void combined.And it’s half of Sentry’s power, half of the Void’s power.Sentry fought World Breaker Hulk to a standstill, and the Void fought Sentry, Sorcerer Supreme Loki And god Dr. Strange.
@@iliketacos886 God Sentry vs Chaos king ?
Oh, I thought you were talking about Gorr
UA-cam: Wanna see a dead body?😬
Me: Yes 🤩
Gorr vs The Hulk do it for the CULTURE‼️ 🐐
*Edgy Cat vs goth with sword*
there, fixed the title
How much Scarlxrd are you listening to
So would Xeno-sama beat Gorr?
Thats a dumb question. Xeno is like a innocent child version of The one above all. He doesn't need fighting skills he just erases.
74Delta xeno isn’t omnipotent
Gorr fucks even xeno
Nice Upload
Another dope video
The ten commandments vs the 10 Espada.
Ten commandments hands down
@@levbiggs lol no
Barragan solos
Who is the ten commandments
Espada bolos its not even funny
I do not think power scaling works well in the dc universe because every story is not connected to one another.
Fool!!!! Shaggy can not be beaten for he is the one above all
Ricardo IS THE ONE ABOVE ONE ABOVE ALL
I know this is late but chuck i got one thing that seems overlooked here.
In dbz speed CANT time travel its entirely different physics. Goku has proven his speed transcends time. But time travel in DbZ doesnt seem to be tied to speed. The three methods we see of time travel are with a time machine (which is more accurately a dimensional travel machine.) the time Ring, and whis staff. So Failed time machine and two magic items.
I seriously don’t understand how people can put Goku at 5-7D they obviously don’t understand how dimensions work, capability is way different from naturally
for example: if we in the real world invent time travel and can travel back in time are we automatically 4D or do we just have the capability to access the 4D? Likewise obtaining enough power to use timeskip does not put a being in 4D it just shows they have 4D capability, same with Whis’ staff, a true 4D being has the natural capability to travel through time, meaning they didn’t have to gain power, speed or anything, they were inherently born into the 4th dimension
@@PringleDinglesonThe3rdcause
Dimensional existence don’t limited you dimensional AP
Great match up!