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They did Thanatos dirty, Thanatos is stronger than the Olympians and he gets beaten first easily when Zeus is a struggle, WTF god of war's scaling doesn't make any sense.
@@yinyanimations151 Well I mean in ghost of Sparta he did have his godly powers in him so he did have a edge, and in GoW 3....well it was after GoW 2 when his powers were ripped off.
@@kel-A-3414 In comics, a weak ass super hero has killed celestials lmao. Comics, Marvel in particular, make everyone able to kill Gods at some point. That's why comparing comic characters makes no sense because usually they'd be average but then one run they are suddenly powerful enough to destroy reality (See Thor and Loki).
@@marky6456 u can't make that argument with Gorr. He appeared twice. The first time he beat three Thors. Young Thor, modern Thor and All father Thor (all father Thor took out Galactus btw). And in his second appearance, he became a whole universe.
@@kel-A-3414 You just reminded me why comics are dumb as hell lol. That shit sounds like a kid writing a story. But yeah can't beat a universe unless you're a marvel character ig.
Gorr “ I have killed gods across the universe with my black berserkers and Necro sword” Kratos “ I have killed gods in different pantheons by hitting them. Very hard. Until I am satisfied.”
Ironically, I think modern Kratos might be the one that could actually talk Gorr down, broken family man who hates gods to broken family man who hates gods
I agree completely with you on this! He doesn’t show the same blinding hatred as his younger self but he can control and keep his mind balanced, he has become a tactical and effective old man who will always find a weakness
I feel like Kratos is just so angry that he wouldn’t let another god killer solo him without a massive fight or close ending, although the necro sword choosing kratos over gorr would be super interesting to see
The all black would definitely could favor young kratos to gor since young kratos would basically be the perfect host for it but I'm not sure about old man kratos. That kratos seems more laid back. Also I'm more interested to see how powerful Atreus will become since he is alot stronger than kratos was at his age. Kratos at his age was not even capable of killing fodder monsters yet yet Atreus was out here bodying groups of dark elves by himself when he was just 10 to 12 years old after kratos had gone into the light of alfheim. He also has kratos short temper as stated by kratos which is why kratos tries to teach him to control it the entirety of the last game.
It will still favor old kratos Corey balrog did say old kratos was stronger then younger kratos the difference is that kratos has more control over his rage
@@fallen_angel249 physically stronger yes but in no terms he would beat the young Kratos with all of his weapons, magic and full power of hope even Thor in the new game called him a lesser version
Just a fun fact concerning Kratos scaling, the blade of Olympus never killed the titans because if u watch the cutscene Kratos saved them by traveling through time
@@zorro8027 Pretty sure the blade was just meant to banish the Titans to Tartarus in one fell swoop...but, from a certain perspective, it did 'kill' the titans in the original timeline before Kratos saved 'em.
@@nowanimportant8887 when Athena was in her ascended form, she (in fear) braced herself to prevent herself from being killed by Kratos using The Blade of Olympus. So it is highly deadly
That's kinda a crazy what if... If the Necrosword made a weak asf guy like Gor that strong. Imagine how strong it would become with Kratos as it's host.
@@thejuggl3r442 if kratos actually wanted to kill Thor in God of War, he would've easily killed him without needing his magic. The young and prime thor are kinda lame the only real contender is Old Thor. Kratos still is a much better hand to hand fighter.
@@Dipankar89 In GOWR during the first encounter, Kratos was holding back which is why he got his ass beat. During the second encounter he definitely wasn't. Sure he got the upper hand on Thor but it's not like he did so easily. Now we gotta talk about the Thor in the Marvel Universe. Marvel's Thor is arguably much stronger than the GOW version. Kratos struggled to beat that singular version of Thor, while on the flip side Gorr managed to hold his own against 3 different versions of Thor. All of whom are extremely powerful. I don't think that young Thor is as strong as the GOW Thor but the others definitely are. You saying that prime Thor is "kinda lame" is WILD tho 😆 We're all entitled to our own opinions at the end of the day I guess.
Few more things to point out as well for Kratos: In GW1,2 and 3 he comes back from the dead on his own will and even when he simply wants death he seems unable to achieve it (ie: How he survives GW3.) It's also shown that he possess a powerful regenerative ability (which immortal killing weapons don't work on) as demonstrated by how other gods were unable to regenerate like him, bearing baldur is an exception since he cannot be killed or hurt by anything till the mistletoe was used. Another thing is that his main feats, demonstrated are both nerfed/weakened version of himself. As in GW2 his god of war powers were taken from him, and so he fought the sisters of fate while only having a fraction none of that power yet appearing to have grown stronger since then. In GW3 the power he obtained from GW2 were taken from him as well in the river of souls there. So bar Neptune who suffered the quickest defeat as a result, Hades was defeated while Kratos was at his weakest and same to all other gods, exception being zeus where he seemingly recovered his powers and even grew stronger to the point he was comparable to his GW2 version if not superior again since not only did he won against zeus but the evil possessing him after he was fatigue from the fight before and almost influenced by it. So with current Kratos, the one from the soft reboot, he hasn't lost any of his powers and is simply holding back. and could be assumed as stronger then his previous feats. This is kind of proven with how he shrugs off blows from baldur, easily overpowers him once serious and kills him once he was sure he would not become a better person. Edit: Just some additional stuff that Ragnarok confirms: He can be predicted, read and have his future seen. But he holds the power to deny that and change it, this is proven with the sisters of fate, and now confirmed hilmder- However you write his name. So he has some level of fate manipulation/destiny control, where he can simply deny stuff? It's also proven once more thanks to thor, being decked by a unrestrained kratos for a moment and then nearly being killed by a, partially (self) restrained kratos, later on that proves he does scale above thor. And could technically destroy the tree of Ygdrasil as expected, however nothing more. Another thing is that Greek gods are apparently just conceptual beings or are on that level according to Ragnarok since Mimir and other gods all say that their abilities are tied to the magic of the land and that such powers are extremely dangerous to even have. But the greek gods don't have the same limitation and can simply use their powers without restraint or worry. So with that we've obtained proof that Kratos resisted conceptual time manipulation to erase his existence and possibly other shenanigans, resisted conceptual immortal killing weapons (as that is a greater feat that enduring conceptual attacks), and defeated conceptual beings while also then manipulating their conceptual elements. Which makes his feats against greek gods even more frightening since it means that he defeated the conceptual gods of death (dying and souls) twice, defeated conceptual speed (hermes), defeated the concept of fate (through the sisters of fate) and the supreme deity who rules those things (zeus) that was being controlled by evil. Another thing I just remembered: Isn't Kratos partially tireless? According to GW2 and GW3... Everything he did was back to back with no time to spare and the only time he was close to tired was at the end after fighting zeus. Don't get me wrong he does get tired, (specially pre GW2 time period), as he was still under the assumption of being human. But that tiredness quickly fades as he starts letting rage guide him so.... Possibly facing an army and coming out of it without fatigue doesn't seem all to impossible though I can't give proof either that he is officially tireless.
@@kazuha74 I mean. Yes and no. No. Because the video is centered around feats. And as a result kratos doesn't have the same level of feats as Gor, since kratos would scale only to thor or 2 thors. Yes. Because based on everything I said you kind of realise he scales beyond what is shown and we never really go a proper power ceiling for him. Specially when in current games his actively holding back to avoid reverting to his old ways based on how once he does go loose for a moment he easily destroys the norse gods. That and composite kratos is a fucking monster because it would mean he has all of his equipment and magic (which technically buff his stats more since his using the powers of other gods on top of his own). However that's not really easy to explain or prove compared to feats without bias or false assumptions.
@@tamamonomae2740 well he is not tireless, proved by comic the fallen god, he could go at it for months, but would eventually need good ol' sleep to recover again 😁
@@bigbywolf5031 lmfao Yeah. There's like inconsistencies in that. Ragnarok confirmed he was tireless and then the comic says he isn't. Which is why I placed my point more as a question since I don't have solid statement from a writter saying he is.
I don’t see that happening anymore with the current Kratos. Marvel has a bunch of good gods. And I can’t picture the current Kratos hating them. Especially when someone like Marvel Thor actively protects people all the time. As for the evil gods, he would prefer to mind his own business rather than fight them. He isn’t a superhero. He would kill them if they mess with him though.
It was explained by freya that it wasnt the actual world tree, just an artistic interpretation in game, the actual world tree is what you travel on when you fast travel
@@Chuck Aren't primordials concepts in gow nothing existed until the primordials accidentally created everything they are also metaphysical like concepts are so Kratos slaps
@Emmanuel Gorr has conceptual attacks as I argued with the World Tree feat and I included a statement where he says he wants to destroy the ideal of deities.
It would be a great battle to see if somebody animated it. I like the idea of the nekro sword choosing Kratos as it’s user, I feel like the weapons, and tools he use would be absorbed by the nekro sword, passing their powers onto the sword.
It was Apollo's Flame that Kratos used to burn Gyges. Which makes sense as Apollo's Bow is your main ranged weapon in GoW3, so Apollo was clearly a fairly powerful god whose flames could fold Titans.
@@xon7867 gorr alone fought 3 thors and one of them was king thor thousands years old with thorforce/odinforce so he would be able to face rune king thor
@@argy7526 bro rune king thor is on different league. Try to read comics HHAHAAH and kratos it's just strong in his own universe i know kratos is strong and gorr as well but rune king thor is too much for them
@@xon7867 gorr won 3v1 king thor,avengers thor and young thor also kratos won against zeus,thor and odin who are 1% based on their mythologies but he also made some feats like fighting atals who holds the kosmos on his back,thor held the 9 relms and kratos defeated them
So I won’t lie I am bias towards Kratos 😅 but I see the feats of Gorr, but then again Kratos has come up against one impossible foe after another and I feel as though Kratos would just over come Gorr just like any other. Where as Gorr never over came anything or passed his own limits. Also that one narrative point about the sword going to Kratos I would apply that to this fight. Just like Kisame losing his sword to killer B. Over all the video was awesome I love these videos keep it up 🙌🏽👏🏽
Things the God's Kratos battles never felt universal they felt like they the were powerful in their own region while the God's Gorr fought were universal.
@@LarryBonson Yea that true. I think also it’s the context in which they stand in. Gorr is in a comic so the writers do way more through spans of issues. Kratos is governed by game mechanics and the setting of those mechanics. It’s the very thing that’s always conflicting. Like Gorr from the movie seemed way more different then the comics. Just the Context but if we remove that setting Kratos is in, maybe just maybe he may have a bigger chance. Buuuut Gorr coming in and becoming a construct and making the necroverse now that’s deep lol. I love Kratos for sure, but over all if he wins he wins.
@@TonyPinero Exactly this. The creator of GOW even said something along the lines of Kratos being able to kill multiversal threats but also struggles to lift a door up in-game. I think the video did a decent job explaining Kratos’ powers but it’s hard to scale both fighters. Like why exactly is marvel’s tree ‘bigger’ than the one in GOW.
@@nothing3887 that part lol 😂 that comment is hilarious 🤣. Yea it doesn’t make any sense. World tree is the world tree but both properties do take their liberties as well. Just like how DC represent Zeus then we get Thor love and thunder and the Zeus on the movie is all bleh lol
@@TonyPinero exactly! I hate when someone’s power scales beyond infinity. If that’s the case, then their power is by definition immeasurable. It just becomes this whole my infinity is bigger than your infinity garbage. Sorry for the little tangent!
I love kratos as the next guy but man Gorr fr the OG been doing this before Kratos was even born he's years ahead in skills and knowledge of killing gods.Kratos left Greece not to long ago and there's still different pantheons for him to run through while Gorr already ran through most of the pantheons.
@@akaza9730 Kratos doesn't have the ability to control fate if he did no need for him to fighting Baldur and everyone. Even then Gorr has killed every pantheon in king thor timeline since he's been at it for 900 years with him.Kratos can control time but even then Gorr can make his way around it since he's killed time and space gods plus gorr doesn't even have to be in the area Black berserks are enough to keep kratos at bay.
I agree with you. Gorr takes awin. He was fighting Old king Thor(it actually took 3 Thors to defeat him) and Kratos doesn't scale to Odin/Thor at his peac from Marvel.
@@ItsButterBean1020 Honestly, you don't even need this. Just scale him to classicOdin, who scales to Hell Lords(and Dormamu can be scaled to 7D and Complex Multiversal level).Hell, you can even use Outersal scaling for both Dormamu and Odin/Thor
@@Dangangela6565 yeah don't try that bro. You don't want to hop in the rabbit hole of marvel scaling. Multiversal may as well be street level to high tiers
*Actual confrontation* "I sense that you have a bloodlust towards gods" "Yeah I do, why?" "I agree" "Oh! let's team up then" "Ok" What do you think happens afterwards
Loved this video!! Here are a couple of battle discussion recommendations: 1) Hulk vs Broly vs Doomsday 2) Thragg vs Zod 3) Black Adam vs Blue Marvel 4) Dr Manhattan vs The Molecule Man 5) SpongeBob SquarePants vs Popeye The Sailor Man 6) Mad Jim Jaspers vs The Mask
I would really love to see the Doomslayer in one of these vs videos to see how he stacks up against some of these characters. Doom is my favorite game of all time!
Cool video i enjoyed it and I hope we see more Overpowered Characters in the future from Non-western - Southeast Asian, Latin American, Afrofurutist, Middle Eastern, Polynesian-inspired and Indigenous Futuristic/Australian Aboriginal Fantasy & Sci-fi stories tbh.
I mean to the both questions its a no, Gorr is from marvel comics and it took three different thors to kill him. I like Kratos alot but I aint wanking Kratos to get the win.
I’d love to see a video giving a rundown on Dante from DMC. I see too many other videos that downplay him in matchups when in reality he’s capable of defeating the Doomslayer and Kratos. Other than that, I’m glad to see Gorr getting some recognition. Nice one.
People downplay him because they don't understand the lore side of things. Not to mention all of his seemingly endless techniques and abilities. Plus he one shotted foes like Argosax. Lastly without the limits of game mechanics he has his devil forms
About the blade of olympus self stab, he's cursed to be unable to die by his own hand. Now whether that negates what the blade can do or not is up for debate.
Kratos: killed hid own family Gorr: watched his daughter die Ethan Winters: died before watching his daughter grow up Asura: Sacrificed his life for his daughter Man these fathers can't catch a break 😪
Even when people highball and jack Kratos he's still not as strong as a lot of comic book chatacters. Kratos is basically a child version of Gorr. Gorr has slayed thousands of Godly pantheons including the greek and Kratos has slayed one and a half. The fact that some people think Kratos wins is ridiculous, and I love Kratos Im playing ragnarok right now
Gorr cannot manipulate time during combat like Kratos. Kratos uses time dilation in combat with Hemdal's sword (if I'm not mistaken)... in addition to this sword, Kratos uses time dilation while dodging, dealing fast and deadly damage. And for those who are sure that the necrosword is better than blades ... I will say that the blades hold the original fire in themselves, the original magic that gave life and the beginning of the existence of universes. Surtr used cosmic fire whose temperature is colossal ... and it didn't even really melt the blades. The same Mjolnir would melt, given that it was made from an extinct star (like he said correctly)
Knull’s a bootlicking pansy. Hit’s from characters that are usually around planetary sent him reeling in pain, and it took him eons to be relevant again after Gorr took the necrosword from his half dead naked body.
This video wouldve been so cool to have colabed with the Mythology Guy, as he has covered Kratos and his scaling a couple times before. Could bring to light some stuff that might change the outcomes.
@@Chuck You might be right, but we'll never know what mythology the developers will do next. God, forbid they do any of the chinese mythology, then Kratos would be outerversal instantly if defeats any of the major gods in that mythology.
The all black would be too much for Kratos.. it can overwhelm cosmic beings and even the strongest versions of Thor. If galactus can’t tank the all black Kratos definitely can’t. At the end of the day.. they’d end up being buddies and create the most epic god killing duo in fiction 😎
Can we talk about the fact that kratos canonical doesn’t wear shirts ever so every attack thrown at him hits is skin directly because he refuses to wear armor or even pants until GOW4
@@arrownoir he wore armor while he was a spartan general and as a child but he that’s in cutscenes so I don’t really count those the only time you fight with anything covering your chest is in GOW2 at the start then you lose the armor pretty quickly.
Have you ever considered doing a bayonetta power scaling with the new game coming out i was trying to find some power scaling on her and couldnt really find anything
one of the many powers of Kratos is the ability to always manage to kill a god no matter what nor how i myself, really can't tell who would actually win
This is the necrosword who has to choose YOU like mjolnir in the marvel universe or a green lantern ring, but Kratos can just take it right? Yall say anything
@@Flipitmixit Bro, if he can do the Blade of Olympus & literally command the Souls of the underworld using Hades weapons, he's worthy. He's THE godly god killer dude, it WOULD choose him. If common 616-Thor is worthy, Kratos' is more so. If GALACTUS is worthy, HELL if GORR is worthy. Then Kratos' is by a Texas mile. Green Lantern ring is a completely different article for different purposes . It's not necessarily even a weapon. (But I'll just say, If TIM DRAKE has the willpower to wield a GL ring. Then I can't see how Kratos' wouldn't be able to Post 2018 if a ring knew to search for him. Just saying...)
@@Flipitmixityou’re absolutely true that necro has to choose the wields it, however it has a deep thirst for blood and chaos and feeds off the person wielding it hate and resolve. I firmly believe that necro would be like a teenage boy who has a girl on his bed, pretty much, necro is going through heaven and hell to be Kratos’ simp!
@@AceTheBatHound99 Except Gorr's bloodlust of Gods is far, far superior to Kratos. Kratos killed one pantheon and was already tired of it all. That's why he tried to leave all of it behind in the Norse lands. Whereas by the time, Gorr encounters Thor, he's already ended thousands of pantheons and is still hungry for more. There is no world in which the Necrosword chooses Kratos over Gorr.
I feel like many points In kratos scaling has been missed U should have included somemore lore Stuffs and scaling from other sources which are called upon to be credible Like Helheim being infinite Myriad layers of reality below Olympus And a potential greater scaling for Yggdrasil via aleph gap transcendence
@@Chuck That's no where near I meant to be Infinite possibilities is nothing We already knew Well of fate which contains infinite possibilities is transcended by roots of Yggdrasil I'm here potentially talking about a outerversal scaling for Yggdrasil Via infinite transcendence or aleph transcendence over a conceptual space and time I can explore how this scales to outerversal
What about the power of hope the creator of God of War 2018 stated that Kratos is not even using 1% of his full power I guess we will just wait and see what would happen in god of War 5
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Why didn't you mention power of hope?
@@odin.... I did mention it
@@Chuck can you give me a time stamp?
@@Chuck Medaka Box, Iihiko or Medaka Vs Goku
If a circle button appears above gorrs head then the battle has already been decided.
Touché
I see you know the rage that dwells within
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Lol
Kratos Boutta hit gorr with the “we must be better than this!”
Imagine if Kratos successfully redeem Gorr and turn him into an anti hero
@@NyiPyaeSone *neck snaps*
Lol
EXCELLENT WORK. CHUCK GORR THE GOD BUTCHER VS KRATOS OTHER GOD OF WAR
"Death can have me when it has earned me"
That line says it all in my opinion
A cool line but when compared to universal God's It's subjective.
@@LarryBonson GOW God's already scale way above universal lol
When it earns me*
@@Phoenixofhopes It doesn't scale universal all the God's he has battle have been earth based worst they are regional 🤣🤣🤣
@@LarryBonson wut the hell are you on about🤔
"Bodied the God of Death Thanatos, like he owed him rent!!"
🤣🤣 he never fixed the damn door did he?
They did Thanatos dirty, Thanatos is stronger than the Olympians and he gets beaten first easily when Zeus is a struggle, WTF god of war's scaling doesn't make any sense.
@@yinyanimations151 never does
@@yinyanimations151 Well I mean in ghost of Sparta he did have his godly powers in him so he did have a edge, and in GoW 3....well it was after GoW 2 when his powers were ripped off.
@@stuffzluvverz_7665 not to mention Kratos was livid after Thanatos killed Deimos
Clearly not
Kratos: "I FOUGHT THOR"
Gorr: "I FOUGHT TH- wait what?"
Kratos: and I versed the real one not some MCU knock off
Gorr: shit
Gorr from the comics killed Celestials, what are you talking about?
@@kel-A-3414 In comics, a weak ass super hero has killed celestials lmao. Comics, Marvel in particular, make everyone able to kill Gods at some point. That's why comparing comic characters makes no sense because usually they'd be average but then one run they are suddenly powerful enough to destroy reality (See Thor and Loki).
@@marky6456 u can't make that argument with Gorr. He appeared twice. The first time he beat three Thors. Young Thor, modern Thor and All father Thor (all father Thor took out Galactus btw). And in his second appearance, he became a whole universe.
@@kel-A-3414 You just reminded me why comics are dumb as hell lol. That shit sounds like a kid writing a story. But yeah can't beat a universe unless you're a marvel character ig.
Kratos: "So you kill Gods!?"
Gorr: "Yes, and you're next"
Kratos: "You are a fool, death can not claim me"
Gorr: I once tortured a God of torture!
Kratos: And you’re still bragging about it?
@@satchelharding189 Gorr: "I once killed a God that can wrestle black holes for fun"
@@sphere7158 Kratos: "I made the God that created time itself my bitch"
@@satchelharding189 Gorr: "I've cross time and space and made Gods wet their pants"
@@satchelharding189 If you can kill a God that created time than that's not a God for they would have the ability to reset time to never lose.
Gorr “ I have killed gods across the universe with my black berserkers and Necro sword”
Kratos “ I have killed gods in different pantheons by hitting them. Very hard. Until I am satisfied.”
I, I Like this. It made me laugh
Gorr: *is the god butcher*
Kratos: “Y’know, I’m something of a god butcher myself.”
@cimoooooooo1. Bot?
@cimoooooooo1. Bot?
Marvel's gods in the comics are way more powerful than GoW gods.
Comic Gorr would solo the GoW universe, even Thor could do it.
Ironically, I think modern Kratos might be the one that could actually talk Gorr down, broken family man who hates gods to broken family man who hates gods
I agree completely with you on this!
He doesn’t show the same blinding hatred as his younger self but he can control and keep his mind balanced, he has become a tactical and effective old man who will always find a weakness
@@ziggymac5813he doesn’t have nearly as many busted haxs in the newer games and odin came off as a push over imo
Gorr is possessed by All-Black, you cannot talk him down until he loses it
Given Kratos’ tendency to defy fate; I like to think that Ares got the right kid.
I feel like Kratos is just so angry that he wouldn’t let another god killer solo him without a massive fight or close ending, although the necro sword choosing kratos over gorr would be super interesting to see
Would be funny if the necro sword chose his son
The all black would definitely could favor young kratos to gor since young kratos would basically be the perfect host for it but I'm not sure about old man kratos. That kratos seems more laid back. Also I'm more interested to see how powerful Atreus will become since he is alot stronger than kratos was at his age. Kratos at his age was not even capable of killing fodder monsters yet yet Atreus was out here bodying groups of dark elves by himself when he was just 10 to 12 years old after kratos had gone into the light of alfheim. He also has kratos short temper as stated by kratos which is why kratos tries to teach him to control it the entirety of the last game.
He was born a god while Kratos was a mortal as a kid
It will still favor old kratos Corey balrog did say old kratos was stronger then younger kratos the difference is that kratos has more control over his rage
@@fallen_angel249 young kratos beats old kratos
@@tadrosse3786 no he dosent he might have more versatility but they literally stated old kratos was stronger
@@fallen_angel249 physically stronger yes but in no terms he would beat the young Kratos with all of his weapons, magic and full power of hope even Thor in the new game called him a lesser version
Just a fun fact concerning Kratos scaling, the blade of Olympus never killed the titans because if u watch the cutscene Kratos saved them by traveling through time
Yeah but it was implied over and over again the blade had the power to and would have killed the titans had Kratos not saved them.
@@zorro8027 Pretty sure the blade was just meant to banish the Titans to Tartarus in one fell swoop...but, from a certain perspective, it did 'kill' the titans in the original timeline before Kratos saved 'em.
@@nowanimportant8887 when Athena was in her ascended form, she (in fear) braced herself to prevent herself from being killed by Kratos using The Blade of Olympus. So it is highly deadly
That's kinda a crazy what if...
If the Necrosword made a weak asf guy like Gor that strong. Imagine how strong it would become with Kratos as it's host.
Gorr fought young, prime and old thor at the same time and was getting the better of all of them I'm going with gorr
That was very different
idk how did those thors scale depending on that will depend uf that feat decides the fight
@@Dipankar89How?
@@thejuggl3r442 if kratos actually wanted to kill Thor in God of War, he would've easily killed him without needing his magic. The young and prime thor are kinda lame the only real contender is Old Thor. Kratos still is a much better hand to hand fighter.
@@Dipankar89 In GOWR during the first encounter, Kratos was holding back which is why he got his ass beat. During the second encounter he definitely wasn't. Sure he got the upper hand on Thor but it's not like he did so easily.
Now we gotta talk about the Thor in the Marvel Universe. Marvel's Thor is arguably much stronger than the GOW version. Kratos struggled to beat that singular version of Thor, while on the flip side Gorr managed to hold his own against 3 different versions of Thor. All of whom are extremely powerful. I don't think that young Thor is as strong as the GOW Thor but the others definitely are. You saying that prime Thor is "kinda lame" is WILD tho 😆
We're all entitled to our own opinions at the end of the day I guess.
Would be kinda funny if Ghost Rider's Penance Stare could just one-shot Gorr, because he feels guilty.
Few more things to point out as well for Kratos:
In GW1,2 and 3 he comes back from the dead on his own will and even when he simply wants death he seems unable to achieve it (ie: How he survives GW3.)
It's also shown that he possess a powerful regenerative ability (which immortal killing weapons don't work on) as demonstrated by how other gods were unable to regenerate like him, bearing baldur is an exception since he cannot be killed or hurt by anything till the mistletoe was used.
Another thing is that his main feats, demonstrated are both nerfed/weakened version of himself.
As in GW2 his god of war powers were taken from him, and so he fought the sisters of fate while only having a fraction none of that power yet appearing to have grown stronger since then.
In GW3 the power he obtained from GW2 were taken from him as well in the river of souls there. So bar Neptune who suffered the quickest defeat as a result, Hades was defeated while Kratos was at his weakest and same to all other gods, exception being zeus where he seemingly recovered his powers and even grew stronger to the point he was comparable to his GW2 version if not superior again since not only did he won against zeus but the evil possessing him after he was fatigue from the fight before and almost influenced by it.
So with current Kratos, the one from the soft reboot, he hasn't lost any of his powers and is simply holding back. and could be assumed as stronger then his previous feats.
This is kind of proven with how he shrugs off blows from baldur, easily overpowers him once serious and kills him once he was sure he would not become a better person.
Edit:
Just some additional stuff that Ragnarok confirms:
He can be predicted, read and have his future seen. But he holds the power to deny that and change it, this is proven with the sisters of fate, and now confirmed hilmder- However you write his name.
So he has some level of fate manipulation/destiny control, where he can simply deny stuff?
It's also proven once more thanks to thor, being decked by a unrestrained kratos for a moment and then nearly being killed by a, partially (self) restrained kratos, later on that proves he does scale above thor. And could technically destroy the tree of Ygdrasil as expected, however nothing more.
Another thing is that Greek gods are apparently just conceptual beings or are on that level according to Ragnarok since Mimir and other gods all say that their abilities are tied to the magic of the land and that such powers are extremely dangerous to even have. But the greek gods don't have the same limitation and can simply use their powers without restraint or worry.
So with that we've obtained proof that Kratos resisted conceptual time manipulation to erase his existence and possibly other shenanigans, resisted conceptual immortal killing weapons (as that is a greater feat that enduring conceptual attacks), and defeated conceptual beings while also then manipulating their conceptual elements.
Which makes his feats against greek gods even more frightening since it means that he defeated the conceptual gods of death (dying and souls) twice, defeated conceptual speed (hermes), defeated the concept of fate (through the sisters of fate) and the supreme deity who rules those things (zeus) that was being controlled by evil.
Another thing I just remembered:
Isn't Kratos partially tireless? According to GW2 and GW3... Everything he did was back to back with no time to spare and the only time he was close to tired was at the end after fighting zeus.
Don't get me wrong he does get tired, (specially pre GW2 time period), as he was still under the assumption of being human.
But that tiredness quickly fades as he starts letting rage guide him so.... Possibly facing an army and coming out of it without fatigue doesn't seem all to impossible though I can't give proof either that he is officially tireless.
Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏🙏🙏
yeah I feel he got low balled in this video tbh
@@kazuha74 I mean.
Yes and no.
No. Because the video is centered around feats.
And as a result kratos doesn't have the same level of feats as Gor, since kratos would scale only to thor or 2 thors.
Yes. Because based on everything I said you kind of realise he scales beyond what is shown and we never really go a proper power ceiling for him. Specially when in current games his actively holding back to avoid reverting to his old ways based on how once he does go loose for a moment he easily destroys the norse gods.
That and composite kratos is a fucking monster because it would mean he has all of his equipment and magic (which technically buff his stats more since his using the powers of other gods on top of his own).
However that's not really easy to explain or prove compared to feats without bias or false assumptions.
@@tamamonomae2740 well he is not tireless, proved by comic the fallen god, he could go at it for months, but would eventually need good ol' sleep to recover again 😁
@@bigbywolf5031 lmfao
Yeah.
There's like inconsistencies in that.
Ragnarok confirmed he was tireless and then the comic says he isn't.
Which is why I placed my point more as a question since I don't have solid statement from a writter saying he is.
Gorr is pretty broken despite not having many appearances. A mere construct from him taking Thor hours to beat is insane.
Imagine if these two became best friends
The gods of the universe would be absolutely screwed
The Zero Gods Plan!
I don’t see that happening anymore with the current Kratos.
Marvel has a bunch of good gods. And I can’t picture the current Kratos hating them.
Especially when someone like Marvel Thor actively protects people all the time.
As for the evil gods, he would prefer to mind his own business rather than fight them. He isn’t a superhero. He would kill them if they mess with him though.
This fight is one of the most close ones I’ve thought of as well. Both are broken and cool characters facing powerful gods
‘Close’ yeah sure buddy. Gorr is nothing compared kratos… until the ghost of sparta starts holding back
@@defintlynoob4263 lmao, dude gorr has way better feats and scaling
@@dsm2417 That man is biased 💀 gorrs feats quite literally trump kratos, especially considering that the necrosword really has no limit
@@D3athrus sure buddy
@@RRG582 there goes the copium buddy
Wouldn’t Kratos flipping the temple holding the world tree mean he potentially lifted infinite realms?
Probably!
It was explained by freya that it wasnt the actual world tree, just an artistic interpretation in game, the actual world tree is what you travel on when you fast travel
@@Chuck
Aren't primordials concepts in gow nothing existed until the primordials accidentally created everything they are also metaphysical like concepts are so Kratos slaps
@Emmanuel Gorr has conceptual attacks as I argued with the World Tree feat and I included a statement where he says he wants to destroy the ideal of deities.
@@Chuck bro titans are above primodials and gods are above them and kratos is above the gods
It would be a great battle to see if somebody animated it. I like the idea of the nekro sword choosing Kratos as it’s user, I feel like the weapons, and tools he use would be absorbed by the nekro sword, passing their powers onto the sword.
Kratos would probably be shocked about how much gorr reminded him of his past
It was Apollo's Flame that Kratos used to burn Gyges. Which makes sense as Apollo's Bow is your main ranged weapon in GoW3, so Apollo was clearly a fairly powerful god whose flames could fold Titans.
Worth noting, Gyges was apparently the greatest challenge Kratos encountered at that point so take it as you will.
Gods>titans
Both Kratos and Gorr would Team up and Bully the Hell outta Thor.
Yes but rune king thor will kill them both
@@xon7867 gorr alone fought 3 thors and one of them was king thor thousands years old with thorforce/odinforce
so he would be able to face rune king thor
@@xon7867 thats if kratos doesnt hold back
@@argy7526 bro rune king thor is on different league. Try to read comics HHAHAAH and kratos it's just strong in his own universe i know kratos is strong and gorr as well but rune king thor is too much for them
@@xon7867 gorr won 3v1 king thor,avengers thor and young thor also kratos won against zeus,thor and odin who are 1% based on their mythologies but he also made some feats like fighting atals who holds the kosmos on his back,thor held the 9 relms and kratos defeated them
Realistically, I think that both God killers would unite and kill Gods together
Ultimate team-up
Better yet a Kai from Dragon Ball shows up and gives them both one Potara Earing each to fuse permanently! 😈
Did you Forget Kratos is a God
Gorr makes no expectations and killed himself because he became a God of hypocrisy
Gorr wouldn't work with him because Kratos a god
Probably actually
If the necro sword could turn Gore into what he is imagine how strong Kratos would be with the necro sword
Weaker...
One thing you forgot to mention for Kratos is that for Greek gods, the older they get, the stronger they get.
I love it when you talk about GoW. I really hope we see Dante Vs Kratos next
@@Dangangela6565 now hold on lets wait until GOW 5 get realesd
@@A1231-y3l Nah, that dude can moonwalk and he rocks a cowboy hat, haven't played any DMC games, but those are too much for anyone
@@kyellverdonschot9922 i am not saying Dante will lose
@@Dangangela6565 Complex Multi is below outer😑
Kratos is boundless dante is multiversal at max
man the black ops 2 lobby music brought so many memories 19:40
Dude love the video man, next should be Kratos vs Doomslayer 🤘
Hey I'm glad yo see someone that understands the feats in game don't equal the same as marvel
OMG. This is AMAZING. I've always wondered who would win and this video came out! Love this!!! Thank You!!
Glad you liked it!!
So I won’t lie I am bias towards Kratos 😅 but I see the feats of Gorr, but then again Kratos has come up against one impossible foe after another and I feel as though Kratos would just over come Gorr just like any other. Where as Gorr never over came anything or passed his own limits. Also that one narrative point about the sword going to Kratos I would apply that to this fight. Just like Kisame losing his sword to killer B.
Over all the video was awesome I love these videos keep it up 🙌🏽👏🏽
Things the God's Kratos battles never felt universal they felt like they the were powerful in their own region while the God's Gorr fought were universal.
@@LarryBonson Yea that true. I think also it’s the context in which they stand in. Gorr is in a comic so the writers do way more through spans of issues. Kratos is governed by game mechanics and the setting of those mechanics.
It’s the very thing that’s always conflicting. Like Gorr from the movie seemed way more different then the comics. Just the Context but if we remove that setting Kratos is in, maybe just maybe he may have a bigger chance. Buuuut Gorr coming in and becoming a construct and making the necroverse now that’s deep lol. I love Kratos for sure, but over all if he wins he wins.
@@TonyPinero Exactly this. The creator of GOW even said something along the lines of Kratos being able to kill multiversal threats but also struggles to lift a door up in-game.
I think the video did a decent job explaining Kratos’ powers but it’s hard to scale both fighters. Like why exactly is marvel’s tree ‘bigger’ than the one in GOW.
@@nothing3887 that part lol 😂 that comment is hilarious 🤣. Yea it doesn’t make any sense. World tree is the world tree but both properties do take their liberties as well.
Just like how DC represent Zeus then we get Thor love and thunder and the Zeus on the movie is all bleh lol
@@TonyPinero exactly! I hate when someone’s power scales beyond infinity. If that’s the case, then their power is by definition immeasurable. It just becomes this whole my infinity is bigger than your infinity garbage. Sorry for the little tangent!
I love kratos as the next guy but man Gorr fr the OG been doing this before Kratos was even born he's years ahead in skills and knowledge of killing gods.Kratos left Greece not to long ago and there's still different pantheons for him to run through while Gorr already ran through most of the pantheons.
Kratos has the abilities that the fates had before he erased them from time meaning he could simply cut gorr's thread of fate ending his life
@@akaza9730 Kratos doesn't have the ability to control fate if he did no need for him to fighting Baldur and everyone. Even then Gorr has killed every pantheon in king thor timeline since he's been at it for 900 years with him.Kratos can control time but even then Gorr can make his way around it since he's killed time and space gods plus gorr doesn't even have to be in the area Black berserks are enough to keep kratos at bay.
@@jalingaming9996 he can't exactly move a giant ass loom attached to an island
@@akaza9730 I mean he did hurl a chunk of the moon at both Thor's so I would say he would be able to and he sliced thru a star with ease.
I agree with you. Gorr takes awin. He was fighting Old king Thor(it actually took 3 Thors to defeat him) and Kratos doesn't scale to Odin/Thor at his peac from Marvel.
This is the issue
Marvel just has way better scaling with more to it then Kratos’ series does, Gorr in that case is given some solid scaling
@@Dangangela6565 based off Ygg?
In that case, I hit up the Hyperversal scaling for Gorr and the answer remains the same
@@ItsButterBean1020 Honestly, you don't even need this. Just scale him to classicOdin, who scales to Hell Lords(and Dormamu can be scaled to 7D and Complex Multiversal level).Hell, you can even use Outersal scaling for both Dormamu and Odin/Thor
@@Dangangela6565 yeah don't try that bro. You don't want to hop in the rabbit hole of marvel scaling. Multiversal may as well be street level to high tiers
Kratos literally just go back to when gorr wasn't a god butcher and kill him
Bruh my most anticipated video from you and I got here late. Anyway gonna watch these god slayers try to slay each other now!
What about Kratos VS Asura from Asura's Wrath? Id love to see a video on that
Good suggestion!
yes please!
@@Chuck it's the one match-up I always wanted to see. A battle between gaming's most powerful and pissed off god killers
He still gotta do a asura power scale like he said he would 😂😂
@@thefirstprime0124 truu
I'm really damn excited for Halloween Chuck! 🎃
You should do Dante and Vergil vs the Doomslayer
That would be a super good video
I feel like this is going to be in death battle once God of war Ragnarok comes out
*Actual confrontation*
"I sense that you have a bloodlust towards gods"
"Yeah I do, why?"
"I agree"
"Oh! let's team up then"
"Ok"
What do you think happens afterwards
Gorr kills Kratos because he's also a god. Gorr makes no exceptions.
Loved this video!! Here are a couple of battle discussion recommendations:
1) Hulk vs Broly vs Doomsday
2) Thragg vs Zod
3) Black Adam vs Blue Marvel
4) Dr Manhattan vs The Molecule Man
5) SpongeBob SquarePants vs Popeye The Sailor Man
6) Mad Jim Jaspers vs The Mask
I really like 4. That's not one I've seen go around. Though, I could have missed it.
You should add Mangog to that first option
Thragg vs Zod is down right one sided
If it's pre retcon molecule man, he slaps
@@kingjohn8980 I do like Mangog but I much prefer seeing Hulk vs Broly vs Doomsday. I think Mangog should fight someone else.
I swear I’m hearing bo2 multiplayer soundtrack 😂😭
Idea for next :
Rambo Vs. John Wick
"Killing God's has consequences!"
"How do you know?!? How do you know?!?"
I would really love to see the Doomslayer in one of these vs videos to see how he stacks up against some of these characters. Doom is my favorite game of all time!
Doomslayer weak
@@zomebody5529😆😆. Oh wait your serious. Let me laugh even harder. 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool video i enjoyed it and I hope we see more Overpowered Characters in the future from Non-western - Southeast Asian, Latin American, Afrofurutist, Middle Eastern, Polynesian-inspired and Indigenous Futuristic/Australian Aboriginal Fantasy & Sci-fi stories tbh.
I mean to the both questions its a no, Gorr is from marvel comics and it took three different thors to kill him. I like Kratos alot but I aint wanking Kratos to get the win.
They didn't even beat him. He was effectively defeated by his own psyche.
I call this fight as....one those great battles that last an eternity
I’d love to see a video giving a rundown on Dante from DMC. I see too many other videos that downplay him in matchups when in reality he’s capable of defeating the Doomslayer and Kratos. Other than that, I’m glad to see Gorr getting some recognition. Nice one.
Dante is not beating kratos or doomslayer
People downplay him because they don't understand the lore side of things. Not to mention all of his seemingly endless techniques and abilities. Plus he one shotted foes like Argosax. Lastly without the limits of game mechanics he has his devil forms
I'd agree on Dante possibly beating Kratos
but bro Doom Slayer killed higher dimensional beings and killed a being who used to be outerversal
@@4nero_Dem0n1c Dante has a 9th dimensional soul so dude is also lowkey higher dimensional, might be able to do it is all im saying
@@jhevgainz2307 Oh yeah he can.
About the blade of olympus self stab, he's cursed to be unable to die by his own hand. Now whether that negates what the blade can do or not is up for debate.
Kratos: killed hid own family
Gorr: watched his daughter die
Ethan Winters: died before watching his daughter grow up
Asura: Sacrificed his life for his daughter
Man these fathers can't catch a break 😪
Wdym? Bro *killed* his family 💀
Even when people highball and jack Kratos he's still not as strong as a lot of comic book chatacters. Kratos is basically a child version of Gorr. Gorr has slayed thousands of Godly pantheons including the greek and Kratos has slayed one and a half. The fact that some people think Kratos wins is ridiculous, and I love Kratos Im playing ragnarok right now
Gorr cannot manipulate time during combat like Kratos. Kratos uses time dilation in combat with Hemdal's sword (if I'm not mistaken)... in addition to this sword, Kratos uses time dilation while dodging, dealing fast and deadly damage.
And for those who are sure that the necrosword is better than blades ... I will say that the blades hold the original fire in themselves, the original magic that gave life and the beginning of the existence of universes.
Surtr used cosmic fire whose temperature is colossal ... and it didn't even really melt the blades. The same Mjolnir would melt, given that it was made from an extinct star (like he said correctly)
video is amazing & underrated asf
He's back! The myth himself is back!
great video! i always love when gorr gets his respect 🙏🏾
If the necrosword alone grants multiversal levels of power, then how powerful is it's creator, knull?
The sword levels up it doesn’t start at the Multiverse it starts at planetary
Knull is Multiverse plus
Darkseid level
Definitely outerversal
Yes
Knull is at least Multiversal level+, possible higher(maybe Outversal)
Knull’s a bootlicking pansy. Hit’s from characters that are usually around planetary sent him reeling in pain, and it took him eons to be relevant again after Gorr took the necrosword from his half dead naked body.
12:34 Do we know why the axe was forged to rival Mjolnir?
Still waiting for a xeno Goku scaling update video. Maybe you could also throw in universal ssb and cc as a cameo too.
Def got Xenoverse/Heroes stuff planned!
@@Chuck you should do xeno goku vs Archie sonic
That would be a bit one-sided
@@satchelharding189 one sided in favor of who?
@@odin.... would put money on Zeno Goku from his feats, but I don’t know much about Archie sonic either
Great vid good editing love the effort put in 👌
This video wouldve been so cool to have colabed with the Mythology Guy, as he has covered Kratos and his scaling a couple times before. Could bring to light some stuff that might change the outcomes.
WAITED SO LONG FOR A NEW VIDEO!
Kratos 'bout to add Mjolnir to the arsenal!
This fight would be awesome to see no matter what, good video and scaling
Awesome video man, though I hope we don’t have to say “this video aged well” when God of war Ragnarok comes around, but keep up the good work man
Even with new feats, I still think Gorr would take it.
@@Chuck You might be right, but we'll never know what mythology the developers will do next. God, forbid they do any of the chinese mythology, then Kratos would be outerversal instantly if defeats any of the major gods in that mythology.
Great job Chuck and I agree with you and I have seen an argument for outerversal due to the realm temple flipping feat
WHEN CHUCK DROPS YOU KNOW IT’s going to be watched !!!
This is an awesome video. Keep up the awesome work. 😎😊🤩👍👍
Thank you so much 😁
Do you think you could do a how strong is Scarlet Witch vid?
Maybe!
Honestly i see you in every vs videos
@@Hotlmao I don’t even know who you are
Gorr: "You are a God, are you not?"
Kratos: "Leave me the F alone".
I have no memory of this post....
Video suggestions : Showa Godzilla Vs Heisei Godzilla
W video Chuck, I would also care to hear your thoughts on Bobobobo.
Honestly I feel like they’d become friends and show their haul of mercy they got from their slain gods.
Nuh. Kratos is still a God, that's means Gorr will hunt him.
No
Welcome back bro
Do you think you'll ever do scp 096 vs the juggernaut? I kinda wanna see which unstoppable force wins
No matter in which oven you bake this cake..the fight is going to be amazing..and nobody is walking away unscathed!!
Awesome Video as always. Could you please make a video on true form Darkseid vs true form Oblivion? Or just say who you think wins.
Great suggestion!
I realy like that you do more research than Death Batlle Channel
Thank you! Although they have stepped up their research a lot in the past few years.
Quick question can you scale mechikabura from dragon ball heroes
I was waiting for your next video Chuck, I knew you were training through time to bring us this video.
The all black would be too much for Kratos.. it can overwhelm cosmic beings and even the strongest versions of Thor. If galactus can’t tank the all black Kratos definitely can’t.
At the end of the day.. they’d end up being buddies and create the most epic god killing duo in fiction 😎
Chuck I’d love for you to do a Doomslayer vs Kratos video in the future!
Can we talk about the fact that kratos canonical doesn’t wear shirts ever so every attack thrown at him hits is skin directly because he refuses to wear armor or even pants until GOW4
Did you miss Gow I and II?
@@arrownoir he wore armor while he was a spartan general and as a child but he that’s in cutscenes so I don’t really count those the only time you fight with anything covering your chest is in GOW2 at the start then you lose the armor pretty quickly.
Have you ever considered doing a bayonetta power scaling with the new game coming out i was trying to find some power scaling on her and couldnt really find anything
She's pretty interesting!
@@Chuck pleased make a vid on her especially since her newest game is coming out soon
Could you imagine a necrosword Kratos lol
Great video bro
Glad you enjoyed
Personally, I favor Gorr but good video!
please make a vid about spiderman like u did with thor and please include strongest spiderman morphs / forms
one of the many powers of Kratos is the ability to always manage to kill a god no matter what nor how
i myself, really can't tell who would actually win
Video was amazing bro! Makes me wanna see someone do goku vs kratos atleast at different forms or time periods.
Kratos has plenty of experience taking any weapon he wants from anyone he wants to take it from.
If he wants it, he's going to take it & master it.
This is the necrosword who has to choose YOU like mjolnir in the marvel universe or a green lantern ring, but Kratos can just take it right? Yall say anything
@@Flipitmixit Bro, if he can do the Blade of Olympus & literally command the Souls of the underworld using Hades weapons, he's worthy. He's THE godly god killer dude, it WOULD choose him.
If common 616-Thor is worthy, Kratos' is more so.
If GALACTUS is worthy, HELL if GORR is worthy. Then Kratos' is by a Texas mile.
Green Lantern ring is a completely different article for different purposes . It's not necessarily even a weapon.
(But I'll just say, If TIM DRAKE has the willpower to wield a GL ring.
Then I can't see how Kratos' wouldn't be able to Post 2018 if a ring knew to search for him. Just saying...)
@@AceTheBatHound99 non of the things you mentioned required someone to be worthy of holding them and no Gorr is the superior god killer.
@@Flipitmixityou’re absolutely true that necro has to choose the wields it, however it has a deep thirst for blood and chaos and feeds off the person wielding it hate and resolve. I firmly believe that necro would be like a teenage boy who has a girl on his bed, pretty much, necro is going through heaven and hell to be Kratos’ simp!
@@AceTheBatHound99 Except Gorr's bloodlust of Gods is far, far superior to Kratos. Kratos killed one pantheon and was already tired of it all. That's why he tried to leave all of it behind in the Norse lands. Whereas by the time, Gorr encounters Thor, he's already ended thousands of pantheons and is still hungry for more.
There is no world in which the Necrosword chooses Kratos over Gorr.
I would like to see a 2v2 battle with Kratos and Guys vs whoever!
I feel like many points In kratos scaling has been missed
U should have included somemore lore Stuffs and scaling from other sources which are called upon to be credible
Like Helheim being infinite
Myriad layers of reality below Olympus
And a potential greater scaling for Yggdrasil via aleph gap transcendence
Where did you get the myriad layers of reality thing? I mentioned higher Yggdrasil scaling with the card game statement.
The myriad layers thing is from a fake scan
@@Chuck That's no where near I meant to be
Infinite possibilities is nothing
We already knew Well of fate which contains infinite possibilities is transcended by roots of Yggdrasil
I'm here potentially talking about a outerversal scaling for Yggdrasil
Via infinite transcendence or aleph transcendence over a conceptual space and time
I can explore how this scales to outerversal
@@jhevgainz2307 Really?
I heared that was from a official source and people said they have proofs of devs saying its canon
It seems official to me too
@@Phoenixofhopes theres dev confirmation? I remember seeing one from Bruno and he said he has no idea what the scan is
I love how instead of saying: he has multiple weapon to battle and fight. Hensays:he was plenty of weapons to bully people lmaoo
Would be interesting to see a kratos with the necrosword scaling video 🤔
Been waiting for this one since you posted the poll.
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@Chuck Most definitely did. The scaling here went way higher than I thought for either.
What about the power of hope the creator of God of War 2018 stated that Kratos is not even using 1% of his full power I guess we will just wait and see what would happen in god of War 5
Is it possible for a trunks vs silver video