The 2025 Jeep Wagoneer S Is The 21st Century Grand Cherokee Trackhawk!
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- This is it! This is the Wagoneer EV, AKA: the Wagoneer S, and it's not quite what many of us had expected. Why? Because it's more of a Grand Cherokee EV in terms of its size, being ever so slightly smaller than the 2-row GC in almost every dimension. That also means it's way, smaller than a Wagoneer sans-S, and that's actually OK by me. On the other hand, if you were hoping for a Escalade IQ competitor, well, you're still waiting.
So what do you get for just under $72,000? Surprisingly quite a bit, considering that the Wagoneer S should qualify for the $7500 tax credit and $72K seems as high as the Wagoneer S will go. At least for now. That means that 72 karge actually buys you more stuff and better performance than you'll find in an Acura ZDX Type S, Lyriq Sport, or Polestar 3... For less. Clearly however there will be options like a Model Y or Blazer that will cost you less than this, but the Model Y is a bit smaller in some dimensions and it will lack some of the more "traditional" luxury touches offered in the Jeep.
Now to the dimensions: Vs the Grand Cherokee, the Wagoneer S is 1 inch shorter on a 3.7 inch shorter wheelbase, 3 inches narrower, with a roof line 6 inches closer to the ground. The lower roofline is mainly due to a passenger compartment that's less upright, but having 2 inches less ground clearance also factors into things. Legroom is similar to Grand Cherokee while headroom is around 2" lower both front and rear. Cargo room? 30.6 cubic feet plus 3 in the frunk put it about 4 cubes behind the Grand Cherokee, but almost exactly the same as a Model Y.
Power comes from a 100.5 kWh battery pack (400V nominal) under the body that will feed to standard dual 300 HP / 309 lb-ft motors. The total of 600 ponies and 617 lb-ft will get this 5,600 lb EV from 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, they say that's 1/10th faster than the last Hellcat powered Grand Cherokee. Yeehaw.
We don't have all the charging details yet, but it looks like it'll peak around 200kW on a DC fast charger and should average ~160 kW from 10-80% which is a solid, but not class leading showing. Charge times should be pretty similar to a Tesla Model X which has a similarly sized battery.
Curb weight is lower than I had expected, although still substantial. At 5,667 lbs, the Wagoneer S is about 300 lbs heavier than the Trackhawk from years past, but the low center of gravity will likely be an asset and expect a perfect 50/50 weight balance. On the other hand, don't expect the eco-focused 235 width tires to do as much on a track as the wide summer tires on that Hellkitty.
What do you think? Keep in mind that at $71,995 plus destination, the Wagoneer S is actually less than a base Polestar 3 or a comparably equipped ZDX, or Cadillac Lyriq and it's quicker to 60 than all three. It's also less than a 2-row Model X. On the other hand it's nearly 20K more than a Model Y....
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Alex, With 6 inches of ground clearance and a lower roof line, this really puts the wagon back in Wagoneer. 😉
We could use more wagon. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I agree.
Yes, Alex, PLEASE tell Jeep that this is the correct way to do it - NO piano black on the steering wheel buttons and no piano black on the center console, the matte and textured surfaces are much better!
Its cool. Too expensive to consider as a purchase, but still cool.
I like that the extra rear cargo space isn't just some small deep tub, it's reasonably deep and wide. It at least gives the sense that you could fit more in the back in the extra cargo area than this car's competitors.
Jeep is the best thing going for Stellantis right now. They can’t afford to screw anything up!
The front reminds me of Wagoneer, Lucid Gravity, and Fisker Ocean
A Stunning Vehicle! And the interior is just Gorgeous. Take my Money!
235mm tires on a vehicle this heavy was certainly a choice lol
FCA kind of reasoning going on here 😂
Honestly the only thing that shocked me about this car. It 100% won't be pulling high skidpad numbers or breaking distances. Seems like a potential safety issue but I guess the average person wont be driving these fast. Hilarious that a new Chevy Trailblazer comes with 245s lol and that thing weighs over 2250lbs less.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 lower rolling resistance for better range
Yeah my 20 year old WJ generation Grand Cherokee comes with 235s... But then again, that was made 20 years ago and it's less than 4000 lbs... This should probably run 255s at least.
Looks like a good addition to this popular sized SUV segment! Look forward to see the ride dynamics and charging performance!
They very much need a GLB competitor, not wannabe Velar.
I think you're somewhat misinturpreting the branding - in my mind, this is not just randomly a Wagoneer - this is an important building of the Wagoneer subbrand. The name "S" is additionally very telling. My guess is this was benchmarked against a Velar - and in Jeep's ideal mind, really has nothing to do with being a Grand Cherokee (which could come later as a more appropriate model). This thing is meant to be a sporty, premium, hot roddy Range Rover from America - at least that is Jeep's hope - and I think in general they're quite successful with it. Cool car - congrats to Jeep on this, thumbs up
😊 Looks like a big winner here this is definitely the future. And at this price point take my money. I just hope dealers don't mark them up too much
Now I think Jeep should make an all electric version of their full-size truck based jeep Wagoneer and grand Wagoneer
Oh don't worry, it's coming
Yeah to compete with the Escalade iQ
@@garrettw99Jeep can’t compete with Cadillac. They’re more of a GMC competitor.
@@G-Ratedthe Grand Wagoneer already competes with the ICE Escalade. It competes pretty well in the higher trims with an Escalade. The regular Wagoneer competes with Tahoe and Yukon
@@garrettw99 I understand Stellantis thinks Jeep has suddenly turned into a luxury brand overnight and where they _intend_ for a Grand Wagoneer to compete, but what I mean by Jeep can’t compete with Cadillac is Stellantis will never be able to charge $150,000-$400,000 for a Jeep. The *brand* does not compete with Cadillac. Stellantis is nuts if they thought making the Grand Wagoneer really nice on the inside makes Jeep a top tier luxury brand. It does not.
This red interior looks stunning 😍🔥🤩
They named it a Wagoneer so that the branding fits the price. I hope in their next iteration of BEVs, GM follows Ford & Stelantis & provides SOME frunk storage. I expect Uconnect to dominate, as it has in its gas counter-parts, We need more of this. BEVs that look like cars/SUVs/trucks. This is the way. I have spoken.
Amazing! for 100k you could get a car similar to the 39k model y. Good job jeep you will definitely sell 10 of these.
Im loving this and the cadillac optiq maybe one day both will be in my garage 😊
Looks pretty damn good for 72K! Appears that the legacy car makers in the US are coming back to hit hard from 2025 onwards with very palatable EV offerings. Tesla is really going to have to lift their game in the coming 18 months!
I see a lot of Lucid Air design inspiration
Come on Stellantis, give Chrysler some product. Should have brought this out as a Chrysler Aspen first.
Charge port is Tesla Version 3 compliant, once they commit to the NACS plug native or with adapter.
235 width tires on a heavy car with 600 HP! Wow .
I want a 2025 Wagoneer Electric (same size) I pray they make one😊
Love that red interior 😮
Awesome concept vehicle. Let’s see if you can actually buy it?
I dont care what you say about her tiny tires. This is a good-looking truck. Im currently trying to convince my wife that this is what we need. Wait, what hands-free driving? Is this another subscription service? If it is, then no, but if not, then my wife's Volvo will need to find a new home.
Looks good but car companies should be focusing on affordable models not expensive ones. They should change the name too.
Jeep has a cheap EV in the near term pipeline
Jeep vehicles do look good and that is what gets you in. Owning one is the problem if regular visits to the repair shop is ok with you then buy one otherwise there are far better choices for a lot less money. Remember not all jeeps are built for off road check under the car if you are looking at one and see if it has off road protection.
Sick + Sleek 🏁🏁🏁🏎️🏎️🏎️
I like it. Lets go Stellantis!!
I'm still waiting to get the hands-free system on the gas wagoneer.
Was there an official announcement that the V8 is leaving the grand Cherokee? Are they replacing it with the hurricane?
Pretty sure the trackhawk is the trackhawk of the 21st.
With electric handles, when the 12V battery dies, how do you get into the vehicle? I read in another article this vehicle will be assembled in Mexico. That will help to keep costs down. I'm sure the UAW is not happy about it though. Personally, I love the red interior.
probably a manual hidden handles incase that happens ... like what lexus does or tesla
Volkswagen (also by Stellantis) allows the EV battery to power critical 12V systems if the battery fails. Several components in this prototype look like they came straight from the Id.4.
@@GeeDeeBird VW also by Stellantis? Huh?
@@luv2lrm My mistake!
I like everything except the name. Wagoneer is a beige name, really bland. The styling is modern and powerful. The Trailhawk rims are brutal!!
I think they want to get away from the Cherokee name altogether because of legal reasons .
this $100k ev will help their declining sales
Do you mean, help decline further?
There was no doubt sarcasm...chrysler/dodge/jeep looks very sad today
Not sure you heard the pricing piece of the video, thus Launch Edition is $71,995. -Travis
It's always somebody in the comments loud, wrong and talking out their ass....
Somebody will buy it fs!
Beautiful!!!
You can afford these 70k-100k + EVs if you LIVE inside of them 😂 They should start including living amenities in them to boost sales 😂
Stellantis is killing the design and interior of these new jeeps, but oh boy does their hybrid and EV tech have a ways to go.
I would consider it vs a rivian
How did they miss on calling this the Grand Cherok-E?
Or CherokEV...
"Wagoneer"? Well this isn't going to be confusing at all.
According to the Wagoneer S website, leatherette upholstery is the only material available. I don't mind the fact that real leather isn't offered, but give us a luxurious fabric seat upholstery option for this "upscale" car. Sheesh!
Crazy prices !
Where do they find these marketing people to name vehicles lately?
They're from Tibet, maybe
I'll keep my Wagoneer
(thank you for the video)
Stellantis stays flooring the accelerator towards bankruptcy. These will be 20k next year like the Fisker ocean😂
Interesting! Have they said what supplier they're getting the battery from?
I’m sure it will be fun drive the ev verison will have low low sales . 1% really wanting this I guess will like it if they don’t like Teslas etc
So just a Jeep-ified Airflow concept?
I'm getting one ..no lie. My car now is a 2015 jeep grand blacked out package. Anyways getting another one ❤
I was actually considering a Polestar 3, Lucid Gravity or something similar for my next EV, but the main issue I had was the size of them and what would fit in my garage. The Macan is nice but just stupid expensive. If this is even faster, cheaper, has reasonable luxury and is smaller, that's actually more desirable to me. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one. Although, if that door chime is the actual production chime it might be a deal-breaker 😁
Sounds like this could stay on the short list for you. -Travis
The spoiler is like the bz4x. I don’t know why they don’t call it a grand Cherokee E.
If the trunk doesn’t work on a pre production I am scared.
Why would that scare you? The entire point of Pre-production is finding small issues like that. It's also a highly touched vehicle for show at the moment; the materials and etc aren't their final more---hopefully---robust form.
Yeah this shit looks way more like a GC than a Grand Wagoneer.
The naming is an interesting choice. -Travis
@@THEJPR I think it is the naming system. There are multiple levels of pre-production. At auto shows pre-production vehicles are normally locked so final details can be looked at. The other level of pre-production is the vehicles brands (like Toyota) give out to reviewers that have almost perfect body panels and drive great. One review did a video on a pre-production crown and said a lot of it looked better than a lot of production vehicles.
It think it should be more of a proof of concept or idea vehicle.
Does this drive? Can it drive yet have problems opening a tailgate?
That's why they call it a reproduction. It's not fully sorted. Check out any other manufacturers reproduction.
Ouuu a dual intro!
We fixed it 😂
A Hybrid option would have been nice..
Love almost everything about it but I hope they break up the interior with some black or other color surfaces. That huge blob of red, no matter how you feel about the color itself, is just horrid. Other than that, pretty awesome.
Put the ram charger setup in the actual wagoneer make more sense!!
That’s coming….
That roof spoiler giving me Ford Escort Cosworth vibes. Dang!
And the Electric narrative continues...😑
Are physical buttons simply incompatible with EVs?
Physical buttons ftw. I want them every where.
You know darn well I'd like to see the Cadillac lyric versus the Wagoneer S. My prediction is that, in almost all parameters, GM wipes the floor with them just like they always do with the gas models hahaha
LOL! You have so much to learn..😂
You shot two different intros , but left both of them in saying the exact same thing.
It was a huge rush to film this and get it up in time, we had a very short window. I’ll try to trim using the UA-cam doohickey
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'm sure it doesn't bother anyone, just thought I'd mention
Why such long front overhang? And short axle dash ratio look like a from wheel drive architecture. Maybe a gas hybrid will come out of it like the 500e
Why did they make it so small, it's now in the same class as the Grand Cherokee
Mainly because a PHEV Wagoneeer is coming and there will likely be a full EV Wagoneer as well if the Escalade IQ sells well.
No info on the charging port?! Is the charging port NACS native or is it CCS and does it require an adapter for NACS? Big omission here because lack of charging infrastructure (except Tesla's Supercharging network) is the primary obstacle to EV adoption. OK, price is an obstacle, too.
Like every new non-Tesla for 2025, it’ll be CCS. We won’t see a native J3400 connector until calendar year 2025, most likely on new 2026 model year vehicles. The J3400 standard just got approved and nobody is really making parts for it yet. Although J3400 is compatible with Tesla’s connector, there are few very small differences so it;s not like they just start buying connectors from Tesla. (That would have made too much sense, but also put Tesla in a position the competition didn’t like). It’s worth noting that CCS is growing faster than Tesla’s connector (super weird) so by the end of 2024 there will likely be more CCS connectors than Tesla connectors and L2 charging J1772 connectors outnumber Tesla destination connectors by about 1000:1 in N. America. it’s a hot mess and will be for a while.
This dude's sharp S' is apropos for this video.
Fiat EV garb. Bring back the SRT WK2
Not coming back 😅
Jeep is dead
Stellantis killed it
Not from where I'm standing. -Travis
Honestly, I would really like a squared-off trunk closure. It’s tough that maximizing the cargo space is sacrificed for the sake of aerodynamics.
Yeah. But over 300 miles on an AWD vehicle this size, at this price, is pretty awesome.
Looks more like a Jeep Liberty than a GC. Tough ask for $100K
I don't think anyone said it's $100k, the price mentioned is $71,995. -Travis
LOL! Reading is Hard...Understanding is Harder 😢
Alex losing weight! Looking good buddy!
If 0-60 was the only thing I did with a vehicle an EV is what I'd look at. But planning every trip i take by where the charging stations are or spending 2 years worth of gasoline on a fast charger in my home just doesn't seem enjoyable to me. I'd say "to each their own", but with governments trying to regulate people into EVs that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
I'll stick to my grand cherokee with a hemi. When a company learns how to make an ev people actually want to buy let me know.
Was really really hoping for a 4xE with the 3.0t, that would of had me trade mine in literally as soon as it was available.
People are buying EV’s. Kay? Thanks.
@@sammydavis991 They arent. Evs are not a practical vehicle if you want something useful go buy a toyota hybrid.
Lmao, so many ignorant people these days.
Guess you missed the memo that the Model Y is THE best selling car in the world. But yea, companies “can’t make an EV people want”.
A Jeep, no spare tire. What a joke. Another sales failure because it’s too expensive, it’s not going to sell.
It looks like an Exeed suv
This should be their new Cherokee EV. It's too small to be called a Grand Cherokee let alone Wagoneer. If they could extend the wheel base about 4 inches and give the 2nd row some real leg room and then extend the hatch area another 6 inches so you could do family road trips in it I'd be tempted. Cargo capacity needs to be at least as big as the old Grand Cherokee and as a Grand Cherokee owner I'm not impressed.
The Chevy Equinox that GM says they will sell for 25 grand with the incentive. That vehicle sales wise is going to spank this overpriced turd. And I’m a Jeep fan.
I don't think many people will be comparing this or an Equinox for their next vehicle, they fall in different categories. The closest GM product comparison would be the Cadillac Lyriq. -Travis
LOL! Are you Drunk right now. Those are NO comparison to this Luxury Vehicle
First Jeep review where there is no mention of towing capabilities.
It's still in preproduction. Besides towing isn't the primary Jeep thing. It's either off-roading or stylish winter driving. These two models check both boxes.
Don't know why but I don't like square wheel arches.
They must find a way to make it cheaper, most people do not need 600hp and 600hp-vehicle-price-tag 😶🌫️
They'll have cheaper versions. This is the fully loaded launch edition.
It's all fun and games till someone creates the EvilEagle.
So they made a huge deal comparing this to the Tesla Model Y just to end up costing almost twice as much as it? This will not sell well at all, especially in a declining EV market at 75k.
why not call it "wagoneer e " 🤔 ...
I’m pretty sure they want to get away from the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee names for various reasons.
Is it going to launch with a $20k+ manufacturer incentive? Who would pick this over other options? Jeep buyer will buy a hybrid or gas jeep, ev buyers will buy far more polished ev offerings. How will this beat a track hawk 0-60 on thos skinny tires? This car doesnt add up... Stelantis is going to go bankrupt again.
Lame car. Company is going under anyway. Car will never happen
I’m confused, I think more than Jeep is. 🙄
Wake me up when it's NOT hatchback looking crossover with a billion hp and 49 screens in the cabin for everything and everyone. Been there, done that, they're all boring.
Sure it’s a nice vehicle. But over $70k in price? Is ridiculous. Let’s talk about the perks given UA-cam auto reviewers get, by the manufacturers. Free trips, parties, hotel stays, as long as you play the hype game. I own a 2023 VW ID4, a better deal at $45 k. Be real the price of the vehicles are way to high for the average consumer. Beg to differ?
Why call it Wagoneer when they could have gone with Cherokeeeee
😆🤣🤣. I think they want to get away from the Cherokee name altogether due to legal reasons.
And its not a 3rd Row...
Not really room for a 3rd row with this design. -Travis
@AAutoBuyersGuide I get
it. But I was a Fresh Design. The Platform should have given it the option. Because vehicle to vehicle I think that Caddie Optiq or Lyriq, might be a better options or even 3 Row ICE Cherokee...
Stellantis continues to make terrible awful choices re: Jeep and Thor efforts to turn it into some kind of American Range Rover. They should be focused on anew Jeep Cherokee so they can compete in the compact SUV segment, period.
The frunk is pathetic as is luggage compartment in the rear with the spoiler so far from glass rendering the car shape as a coupe, a far cry from classic Grand Cherokee shape.
that interior is atrocious....
Ill buy once i see 800 to 1000+ miles for ev
the gas tank on your non EV isnt 400 miles, is it?
A number that regular cars won't do? Interesting choice. -Travis
This is what I would call a stupid EV hater, asking for something that even ICE cars can’t do😂
Not everyone has the income of a Silicon. valley techno nerd.
Stupid…
Too small for a Wagoneer
Too expensive to compete with Tesla
Too legacy to have good software
The speed is impressive, but damn, I’d take a Model Y performance for nearly half the cost.
Cadillac escalade ev much nicer
😂 LOL@...AUH..NO.
Did you hear that the EV market is crashing?
Whahhh?! Glad you told us, we definitely won't buy one now. Thanks for the heads up!
It’s not. Just a bunch of anti-EV media hysteria. Look at the actual numbers, EV sales are still up every quarter, that’s not the sign of a crashing or failing market at all.
Hearing it doesn't make it true. -Travis
The competition in this size and configuration EV is certainly getting to be crowded going forward.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Something tells me he's not gonna hear you 😆
Dead on arrival, some grown up babies of trust fund babies might buy them with there generational wealth to feel like they are relevant and the latest in American social status but as for the regular tax payer they is no way they are paying that price or dealing with costs running and insuring that thing 😅