Is Talk of Skin Colour Racist?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2023
- Meghan Markle's interview with Oprah Winfrey ... was there really racism within the Royal Family? I don't think so. Here's MY view - and my child is mixed race.
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whom had this conversation with Harry?
They accepted a reward for airing racism in the royal family!
You’re wife makes a really good point as the fairer the skin the paler the baby clothes and darker skin looks great with brighter colours so example pale blue vs a bright royal blue ❤
@@kaz7634 The Queen killed thousands in Africa. Nigerian the Mau Mau rebellion.
How is she a saint? Her entire history is on record. and so is the monarchy. 1,000 year of killing people and , stealing people's properties.
WHO HAS THE AUDACITY TO SAY THE SEA BEDS BELONG TO THEM?
@@jjboyd01Tom Bardby
Oprah owes the world an apology for her enabling of the false defamatory accusation of an elderly dying couple.
Oprah would never apologize 😾
Oprah doesn’t care about anyone but herself.. she couldn’t care a less what damage she done, she would do it all over again with a smile. She’s heartless and enjoys seeing people suffer
Oprah resented the monarchy because it was one of the very few places to which she was never granted access. She grew so famous that she thought every door on earth was, or should have been, open to her, no one was above her, and everyone on earth should be grateful that Oprah deigned to acknowledge them.
She owes us all an apology for almost her entire career 😂
He should also have pointed out that Rachel said there were MULTIPLE conversations during the course of her "pregnancy" with Archie and Harry said there was ONE conversation WITH HIM, NOT MEGHAN, before they got engaged!
They're both liars! 😏
It’s Oprah that made it worst…with her over exaggerated reaction..
True, plus the editing lingering over the shot of her reaction, but MM was clearly fishing for that reaction.
@@TheRoyalTeaHouse agree with you about Oprah..I also do hope that Monique expose Tyler… he’s no better…
Do you mean the "WHAT-TH"?
They are both liars.🤥🤥
Indeed she did. But I think its now safe to say Oprah has taken a huge dent in her reputation as a consequence.
Its a common conversation in families , my children are mixed race ,,no one cared about it
The only person who was worried about the child's skin color was Meghan herself.
Probably because she wasn't pregnant when she and Harry were martied. All faked.
Hhhmmm... I never thought about that. I can see that for sure
I would probably agree with you, except she wasn't actually pregnant... but on the other hand, maybe she was concerned about the birth mother... just saying
They collected an award for "standing up to institutional racism within the Royal Family"... How on earth did that come about if they now claim the Royal Family are not racist.😂
This is something that should have been discussed with Harry when he denied they had accused the Royal family of racism. Accepting this award was proof that they had.
The mistreatment,and disrespectful attitude towards Meghan is steeped in jealousy,,hatred,and racism.
MM is just a Big Bully! Narcissist to the 10th Power!
They said that they never called the Royals racist. That doesn't mean that the Royals are not racist. I think all of you Royalist are racist to the bone. We would not be on a 7 year war of words about Meghan if she had been pure white English rose.
They need to give back the trophy 🏆.
It had never crossed my mind that Malarkey was 'black' until she brought it up !
I don't care either way, however, what she did in making claims of racism was calculated and unforgivable.
Snap
My memory, which may be faulty, was most people seemed to think it didn't matter and that it was if anything a good thing. A bit like Sunak becoming PM (whether you like him or not).
I saw suits after Meghan got engage with Harry and I was shocked that her father in suits was a black man. I didn’t got it so I google her and then I realize her mom is 3/4 black. So Meghan isn’t 50/50. She’s 37,5 black and 62,5 white
@@lindaefraim5895 She’s 37,5 black and 62,5 white...and other things
I thought she was a latina till she mentioned that she's black, I believe her father is white.. So 🤷🏻♀️
I think she was playing the victim. She does it in everything. Harry just wanted to blame the British press.
Concerns implies it is going to be a problem . My wife and I both carry the CF gene so there is a 1:4 chance of any child of ours having it. That's a concern. The rest is just wondering who the child will look like, will he/she be a mix. Everyone does that. Skin colour for mixed race couples, it's just another thing.
We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.
She has no real talent, so this was about money. I think they messed up big time.
I couldn’t agree more! I am the grandmother of a mixed race child. I wasn’t concerned about this and I didn’t take offense when a co-worker asked me if I thought the baby would look Asian. I just answered that he probably would because of dominant genes. I knew that this woman wasn’t a racist. BTW…my grandson looks very Asian and is absolutely adorable and smart! He’s been a joy and a blessing. M. Markle has damaged race relations in my opinion. So much for her “humanitarian “ efforts. 😏
Four of my grandchildren are mixed race. They all have dark hair and eyes but their skin color varies. Each one is beautiful and very loved. I said before each one was born this is going to be the one with blue eyes like grandma. My own children didn’t have blue eyes. Finally my youngest granddaughter has bright blue eyes, like my father had. Not that it makes one better than another it’s just a characteristic trait that was from my side of the family.
I bet he is a cute little thing. Mixed children are so beautiful
Same here ❤
yes you are correct...what she said has been interpreted as truth by many young people I have talked to...she is fostering a subtle hatred and it is being picked up by many young women...her whole narrative of being kind of used and abused because she is a woman and a woman of colour....what puzzles me is does she have an agenda or is is just a personality disorder?
-Same…
Markle, and Oprah especially, immediately jumped on the 'racist' bandwagon. Pathetic. The most disgusting thing was that Harry was there at the Markle/Oprah interview and said nothing to disabuse that the comment was racist.
THEY are the racists IMO
Meghan linked the colour question with the child getting a title. Giving the impression that the childs colour was the reason he was not getting a title. Oprah saying "WHAT?" made it worse.
That is a very fair comment. You're right.
Thank you for reminding all of us of this very important point. The fishwife is a liar.
Baby Archie was titled the moment he was born! He is the Earl of Dumbarton. Harry and Meghan like to ignore that fact, because she apparently didn’t like the idea of her child being known as “dumb”.
@oldcatlady3803, Archie gets of title duke of sussex and his dads other titles on his death, if they had remained part of the RF archie would had probably been given a title by the queen if they had made is known they would have liked one
@@juliaperry2812 I am aware of that however at the time of that conversation his mother insinuated that he was not getting a title because of his colour. He was given one that from my understanding she refused. He is now Prince as his grandfather is the King now. She that's Meghan has used their titles dispite misleading everyone. However in the first book written about them both she and her husband did not want the child to have a title.
My general feeling is that Meghan's statement was designed to cause maximum damage and huge fallout. There may well have been a general conversation as happens in every family about who the baby will look most like. I cannot accept that the same family who welcomed her so warmly and genuinely suddenly decided that their child might be unacceptable because of their skin colour.
The other issue here is that the couple in other places said that the conversation regarding what color the child might be was with Harry only and prior to the wedding. Thus, Meghan only knew what Harry told her! The "what will the baby look like" conversation is very normal in the US as well as in the UK.....the only issue here is that one should remember that the child's features will resemble that of the biological mother and father prior to any cosmetic surgery.
@kathryncashner3294 Yes, you are right. I remember reading about that and it was prior to the wedding. From what I recall, there were no racist undertones to the conversation.
Harry stated in the Oprah interview that the supposed conversation happened even before they were engaged. Meghan added what she wanted to to become a victim and her face dropped when Harry said that it was before they were engaged.
Agreed
Oprah and MM deliberately race baited. I have had no use for either since! M&H were manipulating to position themselves to regain their IPP status that they lost leaving the Firm and Royal duties. Plus MM is a very vengeful person who was extremely jealous she wasn’t on the level w Catherine or the Queen. Neither her or Harry could tolerate being positioned behind William and Catherine plus they wanted half in half out and were being spoiled brats as they continue everyday to prove their greed and immaturity!
I agree with you and as a journalist Oprah failed on the highest level of not asking questions instead what…. Unbelievable!
Why do people refer to her as a journalist? She knows how to air a story, but obviously not how to tell a truth worthy story...
Oprah is not a journalist
She wanted it to sound racist. Listen to how she said it and her facial expressions and how Oprah's shock and all of the comment and response back to her. She's always the victim.
Oprah's shock wasn't genuine--it was rehearsed.
Chris Rock addressed this! Talking about the baby's skin color is NOT inherently racist. Harry and Meghan chose to interpret it that way because it suited their "the entire royal family is racist and awful" narrative.
I was just thinking this same thing! Chris was flippin' hilarious on this!
Yes, he was brilliant.
Chris was excellent on that point!!
She meant to harm the royal family. Have mixed race relatives and it was a normal question about what the baby will look like.
They both meant harm to the royal family. For Harry's wife, it was revenge. They wouldn't change years old traditions to make her the center of attention.
Oprah is nothing but a race-baiter who wanted to be the one to bring down the monarchy as being racist.
Both of them are vile and disgusting.
We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.
I agree. I'm mixed race. My husband's fair colored White. Of course people came up with all sorts of combinations. None of them were racist.
@@linwei-lee110 she is trouble with a capital T.
After everything that has gone down it’s clear when M doesn’t get her way, she actively was looking for any situation matter how minor to use against her in-laws.
I mean allegedly Victoria Beckham refused to give M free clothes, then what do you know!! She made allegations Victoria was selling Gossip about her to tabloids. And H confronted David about it.
Talk about a friendship down the drain…
I am a Black woman and if someone had negative thoughts about the color of my child or of myself because we are browner complected, I would absolutely know they were racist. They accused the member of the RF of racism, either implicitly or explicitly said. They just backtracked after 2 years of damage to the person's or family's reputation, politically and socially. Irresponsible, vindictive, cruel. There is something wrong with two people who will get their end by any means. They can never redeem themselves in my book.
Zara said that her mother made a joke about the color of his hair. Harry has very curly hair. They wondered if a child would have what kind of hair. This seems kind of normal to me.
In my view, Meghan was manipulating the narrative to cleverly accuse the royal family of racism without using the word racist.
My uncle, when I was about 8 or so, came home from his many travels and had married a beautiful woman from Puerto Rico, of fairly dark skin. I thought she was so beautiful and to my young girl's imagination, she looked like a princess to me. When discussion came up about their having a baby, I said, I hope the baby looks like Aunt A. An innocent but sincere remark. Glad my uncle hadn't married someone like MM.
I am an American. She definitely wanted the world to see the Royal Family. H and M accepted an award for fighting structural racism WIthin the RF! Everyone saw through this. Edit to say she wanted to see the RF as racists
IMO that was the excuse she used to ‘save face’ because she couldn’t hack it in the RF.
Talking about potential skin colour within a family isn't racist in the slightest. Having "concerns" about "potential skin colour" can easily be misconstrued as being racist. Clever little Meghan, wordplay used as a blatant attack against the Royal Family..
Harry likes to play word games, too, hence the response to Tom Bradby's interview. Harry and Megan are two awful people who deserve each other. They knew exactly what that remark in the Oprah interview would do.
A bit like the Archetype series. Always managing to get the knife in and turn.
Tricksters use wordplay
I know. If you take the words "concern about the baby's skin color" on their face, it could just as easily mean they feared he'd be so pale he could get a sunburn on a cloudy day in Scotland. I think part of the intent of how the questions and answers were formulated was to further the ease of making accusations of bigotry by claiming innocent word choices to be if not bigoted, then signs of "unconscious" bias.
yeah it is when you hate the woman whose child you're talking about, William hated her from day before he even met her, That's what all the Monarchy's Tabloids said.
Hi from South Africa where racism is a daily issue present and past. I believe Meghan was exaggerating a casual comment. She needs to be condemned in the strongest terms for being a racist hersrlf
Absolutely
@@Ann-qf5vk I disagree - in any mixed race union thoughts of what the children would look like is a natural reaction and not automatically racist
Totally agree with you.
I agree. That racism row came out of the blue to the vast majority of people in the UK.
mmmm she seems to have a lot in common with our own juliarse M ....
Let’s not forget, that at anytime between the Oprah interview and the Tom Bradby interview, they could’ve settled any doubt. But they didn’t. They even received an award for standing up to racism in the BRF.
Exactly! That's why I don't buy any of Harry's B.S.
So disgusting
That is the worst part. They let Prince Phillip and HRH the Queen die as perceived racists.
@@ridinreiners MM said it wasn't either of them, implying it was someone else.
Totally agree! I’m of Asian descent and my children’s father is of European descent. When I was pregnant with our first child, family members of both sides talked about what the baby would look like and if the baby would have darker skin (like me) or light skin (like their father). There was absolutely NO racism in that. The gruesome twosome knew exactly what they were doing when they made that comment. They are despicable.
I'm Arab with tanned skin and dark eyes and my ex was white European with green eyes. We always talked about what colour our kids will have. We both wished for kids with green eyes and tanned skin. Is that bad??? I'm sure every couple thinks of these things and have their preferences. It's ridiculous to accuse anyone of racism for simply preferring a colour.
was this conversation done BEHIND your back? There's no "WE" when it cam to this Meghan was not invited, People were talking about archie behind Meghan's back and harry was not happy about it.. IT CERTIANILY WAS NOT PLESANT.
I'm a mixed race man of Asian heritage and in my extended family curiosity about an unborn's skin tone was as normal as curiosity about eye colour and hair colour.
@@jjboyd01 This was one conversation before they were even engaged. Get a grip.
@@jjboyd01you're stretching. Even Chris rock said within b community, people wonder how dark the baby's skin tone will be if the couple had different characteristics. Chill. Everyone is not out to get you ...
I'm a mixed race girl..my boyfriend is blonde blue eyed..he is ALWAYS saying about if we had kids and he'd like them to look like me🙄..I'm NOT having babies for a long time..I'm in law school..but it's cute that he thinks about it I guess!😂
Why does anyone believe any of that woman's lies
The Megan & Harry Three Ring Circus
Agreed, megan is MAD
Meghan absolutely meant for her comment to be taken the way that Oprah took it. She knows how to do innuendo very well. Also, she and Harry allowed it to run for 2 years without correction or retraction and accepted an award for fighting Racism in the RF! Think that says it all.
They handed themselves the award, since they bought it in the first place. And like another commentator said, accepting an award for fighting racism in the royal family proves by themselves, that they have claimed the royal family to be racist.
I am Nigerian, I am married to an English, Caucasian man. OF COURSE everyone speculated about what our babies would look like, before they were born, and AFTER they were born. Even today, my children and their white cousins were all comparing skin tone because some had been out in the sun a lot. I ABSOLUTELY agree with you when you say, why did you not ask the person who allegedly made the comment, to clarify? That is what normal people would do. You wouldn't squirrel away the comment to draw out, like a weapon, on a world stage! On OPRAH for goodness sake!! That was done deliberately. That was disingenuous. MM knew what she was implying.
Is the same for me. I’m latine and my husband caucasian. Both family was curieuse about skine Color. For me it was normal.
It is normal,absolutely and I also have family with mixed race children. These comments/discussions in my world are never with malice. The children are cherished and celebrated whatever. It is curiosity plain and simple. To twist that narrative to suit a poisonous agenda was appalling.
Our family is completely white, and even WE have conversations about skin tone! I'm the whitest out of everyone (I look like I've just escaped from a morgue), and my little sister is the brownest. We often compare our skin colour and laugh about it, and my mom always jokes that it's great to walk beside me because in comparison she appears to have a nice tan.
My husband 's family, Caucasian, have olive skin. He was once laughing over the garden hedge with a neighbour as they compared skin colour in the summer sunshine. My husband was darker . They were just two human beings
@@saddlerrye6725 I hear you! I can be badly sunburnt in just 15 minutes in the sun! I wish to goodness that I had more melanin in my skin! This is why I have always felt that racism purely against skin colour is absolutely ridiculous! Character is what really matters and these two have shown the world their true character, dictated neither by race, colour, nationality or gender. Both are equally despicable liars!
They should be taken to court for their lies and slander.
They certainly don't mind suing other people!
I saw a recent news clip where someone on YT is taking the Duke & Duchess of Delusion to court for slander/defamation re: comments made during their mockumentary for NF. Don’t know if she has a chance to win it but it will be interesting to see if anyone will follow her lead (just as other Hollywood execs spoke out once the guy from Spotify did).
As a retired Police Sgt, spotting liars or exaggerators of the truth became natural. I believe she totally exaggerated the situation seeking some media/financial gain.
Agree. But you do not need to be trained police to see through Nutmegs blatant lies. Everything from her mouth is for financial gain or to hurt someone else.
Considering at the beginning of the relationship they had to release a statement condemning the racism that Megan was apparently receiving, I believe the conversation was genuine concern about whether the baby would also be subjected to racism & how they should handle this. Discussions about the darkness of the baby’s skin is relevant. Unfortunately, the darker the skin, the more racism the baby may have been subjected to. If they weren’t having this conversation, in my opinion that would be a problem. I can understand however that coming from the US/canada, that would be a very confronting and unusual conversation and coupled with the difficulties she experienced during her pregnancy, perhaps is why her memory of the matter could be skewed.
It’s hard to understand what is actually going on. A child is only given the title of prince/princess if they are a grandchild of a monarch or in direct line to the throne. Ie. william’s grand children will all be prince/princessses but Harry’s cannot. Once the queen passed, Harry’s children gained their titles. The security assignment is tied to their title/status, therefore the children now have rights to security, just like Harry. The Monarchy doesn’t set security assignment, the government/police do, so this was out of the queens control. It’s ridiculous to imply, however, that Harry’s children would be left out to the wolves. As long as they are in they vicinity of Harry & Megan, they are protected and this is reasonable to do until the queen passed & they had their own security rights.
Either Megan wasn’t provided this information on how the law works on this, in which case it’s understandable how it seems unfair and as if they are being mistreated, or, Megan was informed and is choosing to give the impression the Royal family were cutting them off. Both scenarios seems unlikely. The former implies Harry has thrown her under the bus and hasn’t educated her on how the Monarchy works, ever, and is allowing her to speak on the matter without ever correcting her and explaining that the children WILL become titled prince & princess.
The latter implies that Megan genuinely thinks no one understands how the lines of succession work & would feel an injustice has been served to them. Megan also may simply be appealing only to the American audience, knowing that the majority of them do not care about British Royal law etc.
I just can’t wrap my head around Harry sitting back on all this about the titles and security. It makes him look cruel to Megan at worst, or intentionally manipulative towards the public at best. The British people know the law and how it all works though, so he’s allowed this to occur knowing the public will immediately not believe Megan.
Was it a case of " if I make the RF look awful, it will make me look good '
Spotting liars is a very useful skill!
@andyk7009 easy to explain. Harry has always been a dim-witted fool. Always jealous of his lot in life, as entitled as it is. He wanted out of the RF for a long time but didn't know how because he doesn't have a real job or education other than military. Along came the manipulating Markle with big plans to update the RF and make herself the most popular. Harry sat back and let her do what she wanted.
This was always one of my issues with this interview. I am Black, and my husband is white. I thought it was absolutely terrible that if you truly loved your family - why would you not discuss this privately so you have a chance to fix the problem? To me this would be like posting it on Facebook to shame everyone...very often you can talk these things out privately, fix the relationships and educate people. I thought it as horrifying to make it a public conversation even if this is what happened...and of course, we since find out that Megan wrote privately to Prince Charles and acknowledged that she overreacted, and that the statements were not in fact made in a racist way, and then Harry also publicly backpedaled. It was extremely unnecessary and seemed vindictive by Megan.
In my personal opinion, MM knew exactly what she was doing during that interview. She had gotten a platform, and she felt very powerful at that moment. It’s hard not to wield that power especially when she had brewing resentment. She wanted to stick the Royal family to cause damage. I think it was oddly immature and maybe with hindsight, she will see that
Didn't hurt her to also know about the RF motto "never complain,never explain ". She knew what a hurtful comment it was and apart from William's comment "we are very much not a racist family" which was because the RF were appalled at her comments in the OW liefest interview!
I'm white, my daughter-in-law is Kenyan. She and my son speculated about what the skin color of their first child would be. When their 2nd child was due, they wondered if the children would be the same shade. Obviously nothing racist about it.
Meghan and Harry are very good at "implying" things, and then letting people draw conclusions. They never disabuse people of of negative conclusions. They also wouldn't name who said it, thereby smearing everyone. Oprah is not stupid. She wanted a "bombshell" interview and this helped her get it.
When Harry and Meghan got the Ripple of Hope award for "calling out the racism" in the royal family, Gail King, Oprah's best friend, was there and was asked if she really believed the royal family was racist. She said, No, and neither did the Sussexes, but this was for a "good cause." ?? What good cause would justify falsely accusing people of racism, and accepting an award for it?
It made Oprah feel superior
Wow. I didn't hear that and it was not widely published. What a manipulator. They should have taken the award back and made her make a live public apology.
Excellent point’
I saw it on youtube. I believe the reporter talking to Gail King was from the Mirror. It was live from the awards ceremony.
It was absolutely abhorrent and not the actions of a normal person who wants positive relations with their family or their husband's family! Who accepts an award for "calling out racism" in their own family and then says "Oh but they aren't racist it's unconscious bias, can we have coronation invites and money now?" It was completely hurtful to his family and ridiculous! You immediately see WHY they don't like her, and it has nothing to do with race!
I believe Operah owes the RF and the British People and the rest of the world an apology! xox
I can't believe MM was worried that her moonbumps would produce a brown child!"ALLEGEDLY
It’s too late for Oprah’s apology. She’s toast.
You are a Barrister, come on man, everyone wonders what colour their mixed race child will look like, but when they say what it would look like for the family, I mean just put two and two together, this is the all white RF and if the child came out looking like Doria is what the concern was about. Downright racism.
@@joanjohns wrong H even said the family were Not racist or did you forget that and who can believe an Insane IMO Proven Liar. I done believe Nutmeg is even the Bio Mother, the Biggest racist is M Herself!
All Oprah cares about is ratings $$$
Please don't judge all people of color by these two women.
That would be racist.
👍🏻Just as I wouldn’t want all Americans to be judged by these two women. 😊 It’s character that matters.
"People of colour". I know a CofE school sees this phrase to be against their school policy. And yet, they refused to highlight this in their scho policy. They prefer to use the term "Mixed race" verbally as opposed to writing.
You could argue that not oriental people are "mixed-race" the same for Aisian, not all are of "mixed-race".
I’m Black (African) and my husband is White (Western European). For a whole host of reasons I don’t have enough energy to invest in explaining Meghan Markle about, I can all but guarantee that the only conversation about how dark Archie’s skin was going to be was had by Meghan, herself. She’s the most confused biracial woman I’ve ever known (and I know a lot) and she is so ashamed of her Blackness: she never had Black friends, she goes well out of her way to focus on her White features, she has only dated White men and she identified as White all her life. She seems to really be ashamed of dark Black people. The whole, “I never experienced racism before I moved to the UK” claims are hardly believable, and they only came out after she was actually held to account for her unsavoury behaviour to evade accountability. This isn’t the first time, by the way, that Oprah has exploited unintelligent people for views and then backtracked.
Nicely put. I have mixed race cousins and you do speculate as to whether they will be like mum or dad. MM strikes me as someone who has real issues with her heritage.
Excellent comment!
The fact that the word 'concerns' was used would indicate to me that it was an accusation of racism. You can have a conversation about it, out of curiosity, but the fact she used the word concerns in my opinion was her trying to play the race card
The real concern was about her not being a suitable person to marry not because of her colour.
And Harry was angry not listening to his brother to slow down to get to know her better.
@@antoniadiaz7609 Exactly. It was concern about Harry rushing in with this woman who had already behaved so badly on a country weekend with Harry's friends - taking every joke they made in the worst possible way, giving her political opinions during what should have been a lighthearted event.
We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.
She wasn't just trying to play the race card. She hyped it up and blew it up into a gigantic card. Oprah's reactions exagerated it even more. I have read they practiced the "interview." More like an attack interview. With bad intent. They knew what it would do. And it did.
Megan didn't give birth to Archie. Or lily.
I’m very fair, blue eyed Caucasian. My husband is tan, brown eyed, black haired Filipino. Of course we had extended family and friends discussions of which opposite characteristics our children would inherit. Never in a negative way, but in the wonder of genetics way!
They both knew exactly what they were doing and to her everlasting shame, so did Winfrey. As an experienced presenter this implication had to be challenged and expanded. She sat on her comfortable bottom and did nothing but bill and coo in assent and playing the offended role which only underlined the accusation. It was a disgusting approach from a now seriously compromised reporter.
Agree! I used to watch Oprah and this interview was scripted the way Meg wanted it. Oprah normally digs deeper with more questions on almost every statement in interviews, which I kept waiting to hear her do, but she never did ask for clarification.
Oprah has never been a serious reporter. She has always been a publicity whore.
I think you're right. It is all about intention and her intentions are never 'clean'. Her agenda was to plant a nasty seed of racism. Personally I was really hurt. I felt like I was being swiped with a broad brush, as was the majority of the British people. I can never forgive them for that. Their strategy of having to hang out their distorted thoughts in public has been truly pathetic. Any issues need to be discussed within the family unit and be open and honest with the best intentions for everyone involved ❤
*Years* ago, on Oprah's talk show, she touched on the hierarchy within the black community of skin color/shade/tone. She was definitely being disingenuous during that show. So was Meg.
Maybe, the concerns were about shade and tone and which would suit the royal family better. Hence, she saw the conversation as negative and leaning towards a white colour preference.
We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.
@@danielmedical9497t wasn't a friend it was some random person on some tabloid who was promptly censored by everyone and fired.
@@danielmedical9497 That is a good analysis. The royal family said nothing even when Meghan was wronged and hurt by the comparison of her baby to a chimp. Some people's thinking is shallow and they don't dig deep enough to find the reasons for why events unfolded as they did.
@@RadiantStar8997 Because King Charles was behind everything that happened and still going on, if Charles has no authorities to condemned peoples, so why he wants to be king? he has never spoken out, because, he supports what they doing to his son and his wife end of.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Let’s face it, the Harkles had a massive axe to grind against the royal family and what better way than to bring alleged racism into it. OW played a big part in it all too with her ridiculous over the top reaction. MM & H didn’t even have their story straight… she said several conversations and he said it was one conversation and she wasn’t there for it/them! The whole thing was an absolute disgrace and for Harry to backtrack on it 2 years after the royal family had to contend with their racism claim BS was disgusting. Our great late Queen Elizabeth II & Prince Phillip passed on believing that a lot of people thought they were racist, and I certainly will never forgive the Harkles for that, ever! I’m glad to see their downfall come to fruition at last; it couldn’t happen to nicer people. Good luck & good riddance. Sorry not sorry. 🤷♀️
Well said x
Well said indeed.
Well said I cannot forgive them the pain I felt for Phillip and the Queen I can’t forget
Appreciate your making this video. My husband is Chinese and I am white (couldn’t give you a specific heritage as there are many). We were happy and excited for our children. We naturally had conversations about if they could get my green eyes, how dark their hair might be and things like that. My parents were also excited to see what they would look like. The are gorgeous, I must say, my son looks more Chinese than my daughter but you can see the characteristics in both. It was interesting to discover that my family noticed their Asian traits more while my husband’s family noticed their Anglo characteristics more. That makes sense too because people notice things that are different, not common to them.
Megan as you say was taking normal conversations and vilifying them for pity.
Perhaps the “concern” was whether he’d have Harry’s sun-sensitive super pale “Ginger” skin. Mixed skin is a lovely shade of pale or dark. The look on Meg’s face belied her intent. She wanted us to infer racism.
for what it's worth, i'm mixed race (black/white) British born and raised and i agree with you. normal conversation turned into something it's not. she's despicable.
If born and raised in the USA I wonder if your reaction would be the same.
It’s not racist. I’m Asian with dark skin and husband is white. It was fun talking about possible skin and hair color and eye shape with friends during pregnancy.
There is no standard definition of the word "racism." It is now whatever the offended party chooses to be offended by.
I'm biracial, and so are my children and grandchildren. And we actually found it quite fun to guess whose side of the family each child would take after. My siblings and I are all so different and we comment on it frequently. It's really a nice conversation piece wherever we go. The beauty of genes! And by the way, we are Americans.
It wasn't an interview. It was OW indulging two entitled people.
Exactly, she gave them a platform to be toxic. They were never challenged or asked even to explain , elaborate or give evidence of there views. This is not an interview. Appallingly unprofessional on Oprah’s part.
Oprah ,professional, really !
I said unprofessional!
Being a grand mother and great grandmother of mixed raced children of different skin tones, this subject has arisen many times. We now have a blue eyed, light brown haired, golden skinned boy, a blond with a very dark skinned brother, and two girls that are much darker than Meghan Markle . Even the older girl comments how lovely her baby brother with golden skin colour. Quite normal to be like this about hair, eyes, skin tone. How many people have asked who the child resemble when they are white.
Just about everyone.
Happens all the time. It is almost always questioned in all families as to what the unborn child will look like. I have 3 daughters - the eldest looks like her dad the second one like me and the third a total combination of the first two. Everyone can tell they are sisters but I, even as their mother would not assume they were siblings if the were not mine.
Having married a man of a different race 50 years ago, I totally agree with you that racial differences should be discussed, and embraced. I am a vey light skinned, blond Ashkenazi Jew and my husband is South Indian. We had the most joyful, exciting discussions as to what our future children's skin color, hair color, hair texture, height, body build, eye color, eye shape, math abilities, and numerous other traits would be. If our children would have my family's tendency to skin cancer, and if our daughters would have "Bollywood" dancing eyes. Our family cherishes our differences. I believe anyone who wants to hide the fact that different races have characteristics, and hide these under the carpet is racist themselves. I actually find Meghan Markel's condemnation of such discussions to be racist and sinister, and part of her plan to hurt and shame her in-laws. Her words have contributed to worldwide racial disharmony, where none existed. How evil.
I agree with you on this. I am of mixed race and my mother told me they discussed if my skin would be dark and if my hair would be curly like my mother who is Nigerian. It wasn't racist at all, it was curiousity.
Of course I think she was malicious in discussing this with Oprah rather than clarifying concerns with the family directly or asking her husband to do so. Her claims coupled with her casual statement of "I can talk more because I haven't signed an NDA" was in my opinion nothing more than the threat of a shakedown. "Give me what I want or else." And Harry endorsed it by saying nothing to contradict her. Despicable pair.
Did she say she hadn't signed an NDA? I missed this, unbelievable!
Megs use of " concern" is leading everyone believe she is talking racism, it is a negative word
Exactly! And she used the plural - 'concernS' and 'conversationS' where as I understand one person MAY have said "Wouldn't it be funny if the baby had a ginger Afro".
100% agreed. She used the word “concerned “ very much on purpose to elicit the exact reaction she got. Until, everyone figured out what a liar she is.
Meghan was definitely implying that the royal family had been racist when discussing the baby's skin colour
Howdy, BB 🌞
You and The Body Language Guy give me such a great perspective on these two who bring shame to their families and their countries.
Will continue to stay turned ….
PS Mix race couple with three children - friends, family etc… asked questions and wondered about our children - even after they were born 😄
In fact...it's racist tioimply that such a conversation IS of a negative connotation.
They have this assumption that any criticism of Megan must be due to racism is just deliberate stoking of the fire. She's criticised for her actions and words. I didn't even know she was a woman of colour until she said so. I just thought she was tanned.
I, for one, no longer care for Oprah. I used to absolutely love her. She has forever lost my respect after the HazMak interview, along with how she disrespected Mo'Nique.
Me too.
she was on at four when I was a young mom and I loved that hour...it was my always watch show before the husband and dinner.....I adored her...but there were some moments over the years that started me not liking her as much...but that face when the mention is made of the baby's skin colour by the Royals....the pause...I wanted to punch the TV...because she KNOWS it is a subject that is talked about by NORMAL people.
I feel the same. I loved her! I detest her now.
This is my opinion. There were "concerns" about his "skin colour", were the words she chose to use, which naturally opened the conversation to question racism. She didn't say, "concerns" about his "eye colour", or "the colour of the soles of his feet", etc. Skin, colour and were concerns, were the words she deliberately used to achieve a race baiting reaction.
Meghan did so much damage with that statement. You can just see her overly dramatic performance on Oprah and how deliberate she was with her words. She was and still is coming across as such a petty socially inept trouble maker. Makes me wonder if Harry was in on this or if he was pissed when he came out and Oprah brought up the topic again.
Yes it is , was it Morgan Freeman who said :-
Racism ends when we stop talking about it .
He's right 💜
She's so full of it! My father was born in Sicily. He and his siblings all had darker complexions----enough so that the teachers in town classified them, along with immigrants from Greece, Armenia, Turkey, Italy, and other Mediterranean countries as "Negoes" for the school's records. My mother's people were from Austria and Poland, and she was blond with piercing blue eyes. When my parents got engaged, the family on my mother's side began talking: What skin color would the children have? Who would they look like? The short, runty, dark skinned Sicilians or the fair, blue-eyed Austrian Poles? My father's side of the family hated my mother----simply because she wasn't Italian or Sicilian. My father made it clear to his mother (she was the biggest critic of my mother) that he refused to marry an Italian or Sicilian because they weren't "good housekeepers" and had dirty houses. You can imagine what a slap in the face that was to my grandmother and my father's three sisters (BTW---they were all dirty housekeepers). My two older brothers had dark hair and brown eyes like our father; they had complexions that were a bit lighter than our dad's. I came along---brown hair and brown eyes; very light complected skin with lots of freckles. My younger brother appeared with dirty blond hair, blue eyes, and darker skin tones. No one can predict what the children will look like----or which side of the family they will take after.
The question about skin tones is still going on even today----with the fourth and fifth
generations still having that age-old debate over "Is the child going to be dark like the Sicilian side of the family?" MM was looking to make trouble----and she did. Because she didn't get her way to merch the royal family, she had to seek revenge. And from a woman whose driver's license ticked the "Caucasian" box, her cries about racism spoke volumes about what a hypocrite she truly was and is. She discovered her biracial roots only when Oprah was around to broadcast the accusations of racism to the world. My God! This woman is a loathsome as they come.
👍🏻🙂 interesting and relatable.
just out of interest how good is your 'housekeeping' :)
This is probably one of the most asked questions when expecting a baby. To make a thing about it like they did was wrong. It’s asked all the time 🤷🏼♀️
Oprah could’ve cleared the air but chose to stir the pot.
Absolutely correct. I believe that she and Meghan are racists deep down inside. And strangely believe they are above us all. ALLEGEDLY!
Oprah knew exactly what she was doing and I think that she may well rue the day that she didn’t challenge any of their allegations
Oprah set the whole thing up; she is part of the Cancel Culture.
My hubby is full on ginger, we talked a lot about hair colour and hoped that the kids would at least be able to get a tan instead of burning 5 seconds after leaving the house.
The key word that set the crazies off was "concerns". That, if anything else, surely shows her intent.
Thank you. I feel she meant to imply the royal family is racist. Its nice to hear you speak about these issues calmly and inteligently and sharing your person experiences
Yes and by implication the whole of Britain was racist as well. It's not racism we dislike her so much for, it her narcissism and lies we detest her for for.
Tbh Oprah knew exactly what she wanted to imply. She could have the Tom Brady reaction, but she chose to take the bait offered by Megan in her interview. All for the infamy & views. Too bad, i respected her once, no more. She lost her reputation & legacy.
Oprah did not realize how much people respected and loved HM Queen Elizabeth II and were intelligent enough to see through all the lies and propaganda that Oprah and Meghan were trying to push..
I think you are spot on. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Civil and inclusive discourse should be a goal of our society.
One problem is that accusations of racism are overused effectively trivializing a serious issue just to insult.
It was because neither Meghan nor Oprah have the wit to understand that British culture is not American culture.
Bingo !
You Royalist live in a alternative universe,and only you alone know what in the hell you're talking about.
Do you mean that people in Amerika are not speculating about how the child will look like especially if the parents are different?
as a man the left would consider diverse, there is nobody in my currently living family tree who wouldnt wonder what their baby would be like if say the parter was asian or oriental or black or white. IT IS COMPLETELY NORMAL.
My husband said he didn’t know that Meghan was black or classed herself as black.
In fact, on her CV she clearly stated she was Caucasian.
she like Obama are not black, the reference to them as Black is weird as it goes back to Nazi's/ Slavery 1 drop rule and all that.
By calling Obama black for instance is a very White supremacist term/interpretation by definition, yet it's the left and so-called anti-racists that use it.
This man's youtube channels always make me think. I always try to learn something new every day. Easy Chinese cooking. Just what I want! 😂
Don't most parents discuss whether their child looks more like Mum or Dad without any inference of race entering their thoughts?
My son is half Japanese. Of course people in my family were curious when I was pregnant and wondered about eye shape, hair colour etc. It's absolutely normal and quite exciting and not racist at all! We also wondered about skin tone and that was 33 years ago! The world has moved on! So has the Royal family! These questions are part of the general excitement of welcoming a child into a family. Unless you are a right wing bigot. No sign of that in the Royal family.
Hate is not a political issue.
Appreciated your positive opinions and views on this topic. It has always been difficult for me to discuss "hot topics" and try to avoid them. Thank you.
This was one of your best videos yet. There’s something about your perspective that strikes home.
The LA couple trawl for insult to suit their own agenda and leap upon anything that can be construed as such.
They couldn’t even get the number of times it was discussed right…. She said multiple, he said once. It’s not racist for a family or new parents to be curious about your new babies looks.
She wasn't even there; Harry told her...
Wow, you really hit the nail on the head w your comment about if this comment did indeed come up, why didn’t they discuss it within the family. She CHOSE to air this w Oprah as a ACCUSATION. PERIOD.
What a breath of fresh air. My thoughts exactly about the conversations families have about the possible features a baby may be born with.
Regardless of the interview content I have never seen anything so staged and fake. I have always thought Oprah a good actress but her performance on this occasion was dire and as for Methane, she just couldn't help herself, lying and exaggerating and she hasn't stopped since. She must think we're all as thick as she is. As for Harold, I think he's been much more of a spare since he's been with his wife than he ever was in the royal family
Skid Markle sure perked up to tell Oprah they were married 3 says earlier! Just her, hazbeen and the arch bishop, which the arch bishop confirmed as a lie.
Good observation about him never being more of a spare!
She eventually admitted Harry had told her about the skin colour discussion, he refused to tell Oprah which family member it was. -funny how he forgot this while talking to Tom Bradbury, all the contradictions certainly point to an inference of lying
In 1990 I taught a group of black children in preschool. Part of this experience involved having the parents present. The darkness of their childrens’ skin tone came up as a to-pic of conversation. They all spoke of how much they wanted dark skin for their kids, and they compared the levels of darkness in their children among themselves. The darkest one was admired. I asked why it was so important, and was told that lighter skin was seen as being “too close to being white.” Nuff said.
which is weird as there is a lot of Racism within Blacks against super dark Black people
Thank you for your wife's youtube link. And i agree with you totally.
Meghan strongly suggested that Archie was not getting a title or protection because of concerns that his skin might be too dark.That , if true, would have been racism.
but that was a lie. he wasnt eligible for it at the time. megan prob tried to demand them do it before he was eligible.
He was entitled to be the Earl of Dumbarton, but his parents apparently turned it down because "dumb" was part of the title. Dumbarton happens to be a beautiful city in Scotland. She also has said that she doesn't care about Titles. IMO, she lies like a rock.
Yes. Without a doubt. What else would she be implying?
@@nattyangel-zs1ir What else would Meghan be implying? "Concern about skin color" wasn't going to mean he'd be so pale he could get sunburned during a rainstorm in Scotland. I think the questions & answers were carefully crafted to expand the words/situations in which accusations of bigotry could be hurled and could not be defended against.
It shows her ignorance. No grandchildren (apart from POW"s children as he is the heir) get titles until the Queen dies. It has always been that since 1917. Harry would have known that so why didn't he tell her?
I think if there was a conversation about skin colour, it was a case of wondering if the child would be "green" with envy like its mother.
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Thankyou for this post. I think you summed the issues up perfectly (and fairly)
Hello -- Agree wholeheartedly with your observations. Enjoy your videos on both your channels.
🇺🇸🙋🏻♀️🇺🇸Hello. The question is had by EVERY family regardless of race, but more so in a mixed race couple. How statements are made and the tone of that statement in context of a discussion will effect how that question is perceived. Given OW's reaction and the fact that MM didn't correct herself, then the statement sounds like an allegation of racism towards the royal family. In my opinion, H's comment to TB sounded like a practiced response taught to him by his wife to negate what she had clearly intimated two years earlier. Neither of them did anything to change that thought or perspective for TWO years. Again, recollections may vary on how or what was said because it was not originally said to MM, but to H and who knows how he originally understood the question and how he communicated that discussion to MM. Either way, they should have corrected the statement so that others didn't misunderstand what they were saying.
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My niece is petite, blue eyed, light skin & very pale hair. Her partner is tall, dark eyes, dark skin and hair. Both families excitedly talked about what baby would look like. No concerns, just excited talk about our new addition. The word concern did imply the skin colour was discussed negatively.
Oprah: ....What !!!!!!! ...Terrible Acting Oprah.. Terrible..
Agree totally, a member of my family has 6 children of mixed race , all different in build colour and talents, three of whom bear a striking reasamblance to great aunts or uncles than any immediate family member.
Thank you for this post. I agree with you completely. I have come to the conclusion that with M's comments and her stereotype podcasts, that she is the racist in this conversation. And Oprah is alaso--she could have nipped it in the bud.
I was married to a Greek, black hair olive skin deep brown eyes, while I’m blond fair skinned and blue eyed. Yes we the family talked about it loads needless to say I lost out they’re all dark haired and brown eyes olive skinned and get great tans while I burn 👍🏻🇬🇧
did the family discuss it when you were not around? if its sooooo innocent why hide who made the comments.
I lived in the IOM and had the opportunity to travel to different parts of UK a few times in the year while living across and never felt discriminated ir saw anyone being discriminated.
Agree with you 100 percent. I felt sorry for the royal family at the time; I don’t believe for one second they meant to be disrespectful towards Harry and Meghan. They blew it out of proportion, as per their usual.
Totally agree with you and everyone else who commented. Oprah, gatekeeper, should apologize but she doesn't think she should, that itself screams volumes!!!
I've heard that M never thought of herself as black growing up, so there is that. I think you are right in everything you've said. Most importantly, these are issues if there is one, that is kept within the family. It seems to me that she was looking for a reason to leave the Royal Family and dug up everything she could, in order to make herself relevant. Sorry, M, don't believe you for a minute.
Family-members-excited-to-know-what-new-baby-will-look-like-shocker!
Previously known as "anticipation". Now known as "racism". Along with everything else.