@@speggeri90 and about russia we have still people alive who deserve reparations from Russia, and it's not been even 100 years yet from Paris peace treaty where Finland was made to give up 2nd largest city at that time. not to mention what happened to Ingrian finns.
They're there only for the title, they couldn't care less about actual learning. That's what nepotism and admission based on "diversity" does to an institution. It will result in total loss of integrity.
It's Cambridge - what do you expect? It's not exactly the best university in the country, is it? Imagine what the yobs who go to Manchester, or Lincoln are like! Imagine those who don't go to university at all! 🥴
Exactly, just look at the kid behind him raise his hand over and over, They invited that man to speak there, but seemed to have no interest whatsoever in listening or hearing his words. 🙄
@@toter-drachethat's because politics with the youth have become a cult and one thing about a cult is you can't tolerate contradictory arguments. Marxism has slithered it's way into every part of education in white countries and is indoctrinating the young and weak minded people to be it's foot soldiers.
Not talk, run their mouths. It would have been platefuls of wordsalad, replete with all the en vougue phrases and fabricated terms supporting The Victimhood Dynamic. Eeeeew.
If you mean the blighter in the orange top, I think it's actually a boy - though you can never tell these days. The same nuisance kept his hand up for most of the time Calvin Robinson was speaking in the same debate (it's on UA-cam somewhere). Calvin eventually gave way and he (the blighter in orange) muttered something about being under privileged. Calvin asked sternly, "In what way are you under privileged? You attend one of the most elite universities in the world, with the opportunity of getting an education second to none. How does that amount to being under privileged?" - Probably not an exact rendition, but that was the gist of Calvin's response. At all events, it seemed to shut him/her/it up.
It's a universal thing and with teenage kids myself, who are equally disrespectful. I am adamant it is the lack of corporal punishment. Being in the generation that saw the end of the cane and strap in school, I have watched the deterioration of society since that time.
Looking at those students behind Rafe reinforces the fact that these universities are no longer a place of critical thinking. Great speech Rafe, articulate and accurate. Well done.
Agree. Those sat behind are typical of those capable of learning what is required in order to pass A levels to a high standard, whilst not opening their minds to the nuances of life itself.
their niave toffee nosed southerners... what do you expect lmao when youve had the life of riley all paid for by your parents, it only breeds kids like these..
@@raiky3259 the environment behind was laughing, interrupting, holding up their hands, looking at each other with "this guy is Looney" looks. He had to ask them multiple times to let him speak. It's obvious these kids don't want to hear anything but what they already believe, regardless the facts.
This has to be one of the most articulate, tactful, and well-delivered versions of, "Your argument is invalid, go away." I have ever heard. Well done, sir. Well done.
Some of his arguments aren't entirely accurate, though. For example, he talks about how the idea of reparations is based on the principles of torts. This is somewhat true, but then he says that torts is about making the victim whole. This is not entirely true. For example, wrongful death suits are to make a victim whole per-say. However, the victim in those suits aren't the person who suffered directly from the crime because said person is dead. Thus, the primary victim cannot be made whole. So we allow a secondary victim such as family to sue for the damage done. The suit isn't just for the emotional damage to the secondary person but is also done to help make right a wrong that has been done by at least allowing the family to get something back to fill the void left by the death of the victim. Another example of where he is kind of correct, but there is more nuance, is his argument that we don't hold the innocent liable for the actions of their forefathers. Except we do sometimes. For example, say Person A drives drunk and negligently hits Person B and kills them. However, person A also dies in the crash. The family of person B can sue the estate of Person A. But why? Person A is dead and gone and that money would normally by law pass to his heirs. Should person A's children be punished by having less of an inheritance because of the actions of Person A? In fact, the heirs of person A could even be the grandchildren or great grandchildren of person A. Should they be punished for the actions of their ancestor? By law, yes, up to the point of the value of the estate. This can even be after the estate has been probated and given to Person A's heirs. Why? Because we believe it is more important that the wrong be made right by taking from what was person A's estate to do what we can to compensate the family of person B for the wrong committed to person B by person A. This obviously isn't exactly the same as reparations, but the concept is similar and exists within tort law. Thus, he is correct in saying it isn't the same, but he misses some nuance by neglecting this aspect. Next, he asks why the taxpayers should foot the bill for the actions of a small number of slavers. Then he doesn't really dive into that topic, so why don't we? First, governments are responsible for their actions, even if that money ends up being from the taxpayer. I doubt anyone here would object to the government having to pay out if one of its employees committed some harm to someone. For example, would you say the government shouldn't be able to be sued if one of its officers raped a woman while he was acting in his official capacity as an officer? If you say they should, then I could use this man's argument against you. Why should the innocent taxpayer have to pay for the tortious action of the police officer? Is it because the victim was injured by the government in some way, and thus, the government should pay in order to try to rectify the harm? If you say the government should be immune to such suits, then I have to ask you, why? Do you think that the government does not have some liability for the actions of those acting in its employ? Now, obviously, this is a more direct example of the government committing the harm. The British government didn't enslave anyone directly (to my knowledge). But that doesn't particularly matter to his particular argument here. His question wasn't whether or not we should hold the government responsible because it wasn't directly involved. His argument was why the common people should have to pay for damages done by the government via taxes. My response is, because the government already does that in plenty of circumstances where the government is responsible for some harm and most of us agree with this concept because the victim should be made whole and the government is the offender. We can have the later argument of whether the government should be held liable when it wasn't directly involved. But that is a separate discussion, and his argument here isn't a particularly good one. There is more that I think he says that there is valid critique of it, but I think these three in the first 2 minutes or so kind of demonstrate how his arguments seem to lack proper nuance.
@Utkarsh Gupta So you want their great great great grandchildren to apologize, and open the gate to people like you then saying, "see see, you are guilty,..pay us" you have a large chip on your shoulder
@Utkarsh Gupta Apologise - at first. So I can deduce you are not british saying this. And secondly, WE FREED THEM ALL. You would still be in chains if it weren't for our forefathers. I think it is about jealousy at the end of the day by foreigners of today. We did the trade better than anybody else, we then made our society better so we didn't need the trade anymore.
Your comment is nearly exactly the same as the students attitude behind him. I also think it's telling that we don't get to here any actual debate or response from the student body to his rhetoric. You can agree or disagree with reparations, but the majority of his points / arguments are irrelevant, mis-characterizing, or diversionary (or "invalid"). 1. For example, his comparisons of GDP between Caribbean and African countries: 1. Many caribbean countries may have a high GDP per capita, but only because of the soaring inequalities existing in these countries that are a direct result of the same imperial-economic apparatus that brought colonialism to them in the first place. Tax-haven institutional-infrastructure and citizen by investment programs bring lots of money into Caribbean island-states, but it remains concentrated in the hands of oligarchs and property "developers" within these countries in the same way the wealth generated by slave-plantation farming remained in the hands of wealthy plantation owners (or their investors back in Europe). I'd be much more interested in quality of life comparisons for the majority of people, or the statistical mode of earnings (or even Median), as per capita stats are bogus when wealth distributions are so skewed. 2. The African countries he talks about were also destabilized and suffered losses of resources and people at the hands of British/European imperialism over the same time period, which have far-reaching economic legacies up to today, and bear a large part of the reasons for their low GDP in modern times. Same with his arguments about the english language. Yeah, british imperialism spread the english language around the world (and wealth concentrating institutions and private property law) at the same time as it was siphoning the resources/wealth of other societies and committing genocide. Not a surprise that english helps you get by in the world to a better degree in the modern day than non-english speakers. Same with legal institutions that originated in English/European law. Britain/Europe created the rules governing our era's style of economic-imperialism, and roled out the institutions that follow those rules in their colonies. If you rejected these, e.g., Haiti or Cuba, you were serverely punished by the globalized economic elites. It's disingenuous and morally bankrupt to argue that this should count as a "benefit" of colonialsim. 3. The stories we tell, and the answers and arguments we come up with are explicitly defined by the questions we ask ourselves. I think much of this debate around reparations is intentionally funneled towards diversionary topics, rather than being allowed to focus on the underlying structures of economic-imperialism and entrenched hierarchies that oppress people in the present day as much as they did in the colonial past. For example, regarding colonialism: Why did so many Europeans want to uproots and leave their homes in the first place? It's a no-brainer if you were among the elite capitalists who could further their fortunes overseas, but why did so many labourers, tenant-farmers, etc., head over to the new world? Possibly because injustice, wealth inequalities and lack of equal opportunities at home in Britain/Europe pushed them? The speaker brings up the point that "innocent" modern-day tax-payers have no moral or ethical resposibility to pay back the descendents of slavery. Fine, but how about those dwelling within the entrenched hierarchies of wealth and power who benifitted from the inhuman exploitation of people and the land around the world during slave-colonialism, and continue to benefit from this legacy today? In many cases, the families and institutions of economic elitism of 200 years ago are the same existing today, and which continue to exploit people and the land both within Europe and abroad. Regarding reparations, I'd be all in favour of international efforts to re-distribute the vast concentrated wealth of the 1% globally and put it into social programs (e.g., health, education, justice) across "developing" countries and economically disadvantaged areas of "developed " countries. Let me know if you disagree and on what grounds
I am Swiss, and I want to ensure we get to be repaid toll fees from the french, when Napoleon walked with his army through Switzerland. How dare he pay no taxes and toll fees?
Another way of looking at this quote; with perhaps some empathy and self-awareness, would be to consider it from the perspective of the descendants of peoples stolen from their homelands, robbed of their names, robbed of knowledge of their tribes and original family lineage, culture and religion. A people taught a falsified "Christian" religion, that for example, removed elements that wrote of Moses and the Israelites escape from slavery, so as not to encourage dissent. Predicated on the propaganda of a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. As a side note; George Orwell's descendants were recipients of reparation payment as recompense for their loss of human property. A total sum, paid by the British taxpayers, not fully repaid until 2015
@@JIMMYNDMS No one has ever seen a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. He was Jewish. All of the many pictures never show Him as being white, nor black. Palestinians have not been robbed of homelands, names, etc...they have given up everything to support Hamas, etc...They do NOT want peace, land, or honor. It really took a long time for the final payment to be made. Thanks for sharing the info.
@@JIMMYNDMS People tend to mix though, most of us aren't purely of any tribe or ethnicity. And as said, had they not been "stolen" from their homelands, they would've lived under objectively worse conditions today. I doubt most modern people even know that much about their great-great-great-grandparents or beyond. I personally never really learned much even about my grandparents, and I have no idea what their parents were like. But that didn't stop me from developing my own identity. I think my main problem with this type of thinking is that it boils down to an attempt to group yourself with other people based on superficial commonalities that ultimately don't really define us as individuals. I feel like people should develop their identity via trial and error, by learning how they themselves react to organic real life experiences and how their own reactions differ from those of others. This seems much more useful to me than trying to study how your ancestors lived and what they believed in, given that today's world is so different from what it was a century ago, and given that we know so much more about the world now.
@@VVayVVard on your point regarding mixing etc; I do agree. However, I do find it a bit odd for you to use that as the opening 'leg' with which to build the metaphorical table of your argument; considering this particular 'historian', Rafe Heydel-Mankoo, makes at least a good portion of his living as an oxymoronic example of his own existence. Decrying the failure of multiculturalism and ethnic mixing, while affecting the pomp of an eccentric English aristocrat. Sort of like if all the worst bits of Priti Patel, Suella Braverman and Jacob Rees-Mogg were genetically spliced together... The members of the African diaspora who were enslaved, were stolen from their homelands. That is not under dispute. The use of quotation marks to undermine the veracity of that fact is akin to being a holocaust denier. Do no persist in doing this. It is not an objective fact that remaining in their homelands and resisting European intervention (invasion) would have resulted in worse living conditions today. In an independent comment above, I list but a few examples of great achievements across the continent of Africa; to negate Rafe's insinuations and Eurocentric common perceptions. Even to this modern age, NGOs, working hand in hand with Nestlé visited various regions in the 70's, 80's and earlier, encouraging uptake of their branded baby formula, as superior to mother's milk. Due the propaganda of "West knows best" many babies died due to inadequate infrastructure for clean drinking water. Another such example is the so called "Angel of Death" in Uganda. A wealthy European American with barely a nursing qualification, who took it upon herself to travel to Uganda, under the guise of altruistic benevolent medical care. 100s of babies died because she didn't know her rectum from her forearm synovial joint. Underdevelopment and rampant theft of art, culture and resources; all while encouraging, via clandestine means, the displacement of governments focused on progressing African interests; from the toppling of Gadaffi, all the way back to the creation of political unions via intermarriage between ruling tribes and slave traders and in between with governmental coups, embezzlers and international fallout from US/UK created militant groups such as Al Queda funding civil war via brutality to gain blood diamonds. Similar to Oliver North and Ron Reagan's Nicaraguan Contra's funnelling cocaine into America. Western intervention is rotten. It's definitely subjective, not objective to say life would be worse with out it. But at the current circumstances, things are akin to burning down an African's house, stealing the natural resources in his garden; building him a corrugated iron shack, then telling the citizens of your country, and the rest of the world how kind you are for providing aid, and how lazy the African is for needing it. All while still owing him several thousand/millions/billions of pounds. I won't say there have been no benefits from colonialism etc. However, my view is these, and more, could have been achieved without European hindrance. In regards to identity; your personal, anecdotal experience is totally valid, I won't dispute that. I do find it strange you've used this quote from George Orwell, debating who it's most applicable to, is the most appropriate forum, but to each their own. I totally agree with you that one must find, within, and also build for oneself, their own identity. Not reliant on peers or blind nationalism, nor the long dead traditions of one's ancestors. Can you really ignore the rampant market growth of DNA tracing, websites like Ancestory.com and huge viewership of TV programs like "Who Do You Think You Are?", which trace family past history, and others, which reconnect adopted people, and others, who for whatever reason, have major obstacles in the way for them to trace even their recent history and relatives. I'm glad for you that your chose disregard for your familial past works; many, many others believe in the adage that "those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it". It's especially frustrating, when someone in your position talks of how you've been fine and dandy taking no interest in looking to your grandparents, or even beyond. That is not a luxury of choice afforded to all; many of whom had that choice forcibly snatched from them in traumatic circumstances.
The entire notion of confiscating money from people who never owned slaves (and, in most cases, whose ancestors never owned slaves) to hand it over to people who were never slaves is so utterly absurd that it defies description.
Wealth begets more wealth which begets more wealth... Over years, Land, shares, diversified wealth... History of wealth source dissapears Systemic racism + Generational wealth = Reparations 3:42
If the kids sitting behind him are representative of the school, then Cambridge University should be embarrassed for what it is producing. Their behavior shows a lack of intellectual rigor, civility, and emotional self management.
That's because wokeism is not an intellectual stance, but a social acceptance strategy. It's value lies in social signaling to others. All the cool kids are woke! They're also anti- intellectual because cool kids know there's no social value in entertaining challenges to wokeism. It would be social suicide in fact. Leftists have hijacked young people's natural fears about not fitting in to serve their leftist political goals. Be woke and you'll fit in immediately! That other immature behaviors are reinforced by this group, brought together by their own immature needs, is unsurprising.
These kids are part of a generation that is too thoroughly in Doctrine 8ted to even think about what an opposing viewpoint looks or sounds like. Look at all their confused faces…it like they literally don’t understand what is going on; like they are looking around for their instructors to step in and save them from something.
I am so impressed with Mr. Heydel-Mankoo. He is a brilliant man : clever, intelligent, well informed and extremely articulate with a great sense of humour. These ignorant, unsophisticated children would do well to listen this gentleman and LEARN something. He was, sadly, "casting pearls before swine".
You can see how patriotic these privileged University students are, how they love Britain. They don’t have a clue what’s been before them and will be blind in the future to what they will have been party to.
The instructors at these institution have a different less reasoned opinion. Mr. Heydel-Mankoo could never teach the "education/indoctrination system" would not allow him to teach. There is still grinding poverty there right in Britain. Capitalism has failed come to fruition, instead we have economic feudalism masquerading and capitalism. How to rectify that is what they should be looking to do. You cannot have righteous indignation and clutch your placard though. You have to think. A much harder thing. A lot of powerful people are seeing that you do not solve that problem.
Isn't it sad that some of those young people behind him do not want to hear any alternative narrative other than their own? And these are university students who should know that you need to hear and investigate alternative viewpoints in order to make valid decisions. But I have been very suspicious of universities teaching free thinking as opposed to their own narrative for a long time.
@@WherEmEweeD No from their rudeness at scrolling on their phones and talking whilst the guest speaker was. Clearly not interested in hearing the real facts!
Exactly! How rude how smug how entitled those students who were sat behind not the behaviour I would expect from Cambridge University students . My expectations are that in a democratic debate you have the good manners to listen then make your argument/ reply rather than acting like smug school children it was very rude and immature.
I am not shitting you, I was asking myself why they had someone come in and speak with such sophisication to a bunch of teens. Well joke's on me, these are supposed to be adults!?!?
It was not a lecture. I agree with everything the speaker said, but his refusal to accept questions and comments, especially from the gentleman behind him, who politely raised his hand several times, was an act of intellectual cowardice.
What rude little oiks sitting there snickering and playing on their phones nor did they clap. If they had listened they would have learnt something. Great talk Rafe.
Frankly, I'm appalled at the students in the audience. Some turned up in what appeared to be their pajamas, talked constantly throughout the presentation, fiddled on their phones, made faces all throughout the speech, and actively tried to interrupt. It was clear that they weren't engaging with the argument or the subject matter. I remember a time not all that long ago where children younger than the ones in the audience would be promptly disciplined for displaying such behaviour. It wasn't passionate behaviour, it wasn't active engagement, it wasn't enthusiasm, it was plain rudeness. I wouldn't expect such behaviour at a high school debate, let alone one at Cambridge.
These students have no respect for what was being said or for the speaker. The only thing they were concerned about was their own point of view and getting it out there. You notice that as soon as he mentioned Europeans being slaves, the two black students behind him rolled their eyes and laughed. Clearly, all these students need to learn REAL history. The slave trade was the first international trade, slave buying and selling has gone on since humans have existed.
a generation of irresponsible twats that have zero critical thinking skills, zero self respect and so little understanding of history that they will turn on their own.
they lack the life experience to have been corrected in the past. as we get older we will many times have experienced a change of opinions, be it because our morals and values changed or because we found facts that proved our previous stance wrong. young people have never had this happen to them so they have no reason to believe what they think is right could ever be wrong, it has never happened to them after all. they arent challenged in life either, teachers are overwhelmingly left leaning, universities are overwhelmingly left leaning, etc. they go through life with zero challenges so they become self righteous little brats.
No argument is flawless - if you find this absolutely convincing then you need to think more critically. Heydel-Mankoo is making a forward-looking argument for distributive justice, hence why he talks about current wealth distributions and foreign aid rather than corrective justice through reparations (he is not making the argument which many comments seem to attribute to him - that we have no international obligations). There are several reasons why you might disagree with his argument: 1) We are historically tied to past-colonies in the same way we're tied to fellow citizens. We were under the same legal web (government) and this justifies obligations which may not be present towards other countries which we do not have colonial ties to. You might argue that we are no longer historically tied, but this does not make a difference when the terms of dissolution were coercive or exploitative (which they obviously were - see France & Haiti for example). Imagine you own a restaurant with your spouse, then get a divorce, but your spouse blackmails you into accepting a bad deal. Would they still owe you money? 2) You might think that a wrong is continuously perpetuated for as long as it is not resolved. So if your great great grandmother was harmed, that could mean your great grandmother was also harmed, and your grandmother, mother, and you. Would this justify stupid examples like Scandinavia paying reparations to Britain? No, since "harm" is not simply lowering welfare; it can also be defined as depriving someone of basic necessities (this is one definition, based on the threshold conception of harm, and there are many others - another point which Heydel-Mankoo oversimplifies with his nonsense talk of "indisputable facts"). 3) You might think that the relevant counterfactual for colonialism (i.e. "Would they be better off?") is not "Would they be better off without colonialism?" but rather "Would they be better off with fair terms of cooperation?". Why choose the former over the latter? Either seems plausible. And on the latter interpretation, clearly colonialism was/is bad for the people of Jamaica as well. 4) The whole aside on the intra-African slave trade and the constant what-aboutism is just irrelevant. We are not responsible for what other countries do - we are responsible for what we do.
“War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. History is Bunk.” 1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale. The woke/left-wing nutters are using as an instruction manual.
Whataboutism is facts now? Notice he did not show one receipt proving Africans SOLD humans and not kidnap or steal. He spent more time shifting blame from slave owners rather than proving a point as to why their accumulated wealth shouldn't be given to descendants of inhumanely enslaved humans.
@@CarsonHughes85 yeah when you are in the same topic. Hopefully on the same facts with just a other interpretation. Or when facts are in question, better have a similar or better explanation why your facts are better and worth the comparison to find the truth
What? They were raised by today's adults to have this attitude. It is the continual forcing down our throats since WWII of the idea that mature adults do not know anything important, and moreover cannot live with, adjust to, and even bring about change that has been the problem. A person rarely knows what is important until about age 60, so expect respect elders!
@@simonestreeter1518 Most people would argue that intelligence reaches its peak at around the same time as physical speed - round about the age of twenty-two. It becomes increasingly difficult to learn new things after that. Using language as an example, on top of English - my mother tongue - I was able to pick up French (one did in those days); Italian (from exposure to classical music); some German (on family holidays to Switzerland, the Rhine etc.), Spanish (because it’s easy), Latin and Classical Greek (at school, because they were hard 🫣). So that’s err… (lost count a bit) by age of twenty, in my case, when I graduated. I still ATTEMPT to learn new languages but it’s a hopeless task, I’m afraid. Now I’m sixty, it’s useful only to help exercise a shrinking brain. My sister has fifteen languages I think. I’ll never catch up. It’s impossible, unfortunately. She had at least twelve before she was thirty. Likewise music, my chief passion. I still try to fit in four hours or so piano practise per day. But I don’t get any better. I just stop myself from getting worse, more quickly. Thus, sad to say, if you had learned little before you were sixty - as you claim - it’s too late now, really. But you should still TRY to learn new things because you can - albeit at a much-reduced rate. Best wishes
Hmmm. The world is always thought by the elderly, like us, to be in decline. The UK is currently f*ck*d, that’s true. But this is the exception, merely due to this Brexidiocy nonsense and the monstrous creatures which it has allowed to escape from under various flat rocks. The young people will sort us out. Throughout history, they always have, The majority of Spitfire pilots were very, very young. They saved their elders from the Nazis. Today’s young will be similarly heroic, I’m sure. Best wishes
@@robertcottam8824 I'm sorry for your frustration, truly, as we share two passions: music and languages. However, at 59, I have finally become fluent in everyday French (level B2) and am gaining proficiency and singing better than ever though I was professionally trained for four years. I also am not speaking of these kinds of acquired knowledge, I am speaking more of wisdom, e.g., the ability to understand other people, oneself, to choose more satisfying values, to achieve mental and emotional independence, to carry myself effectively in the world. These things have greatly increased for me since age 50.
The reactions of those students is classic lesson in human phycology. Truth, facts and logic are a rude, awkward and uncomfortable intrusion into their emotion driven, virtue signaling bubble.
I bet if you told each of them, for the next 30 years 1/4 of their earnings were going to reparations they would sit up and take notice to that which he said.
They're too young. I once got a 10 cent raise and I was excited about it because I had zero expenses. 20 years later I have a lot of expenses and a family. When you're young and you're not in control of your own finances IE college students you can be mentally free with your money and give it away here and give it away there. Once you realize your body is breaking down and you can't work as hard as you did in your youth for a little money then you start to realize how important it is to let people keep the money that they earn.
I’m impressed that the students let him speak. Here in America if students even think you’ll say something in opposition to what they want to believe, they will drown out the speaker with shouting and tantruming.
Depends on the school. U Chicago or Fordham wouldn't give the speaker a hard time, but try that in UC Berkeley, they'd probably shout at him, chant mindless slogans, and if that didn't work, throw stuff at him as if they were toddlers or something. The students would get a slap on the wrist at worst and the department which signed off on inviting him would apologize to the violent students for it, thus reinforcing the bad behavior.
es you arte right , they have also carried the bad habit into American Politics and into the FBI and CIA where lying under oath also seems to be tolerated. and bearing false witness a part of at least Democratic Party policy.
Correct, which is why I blame parents for the state of the world. Theyre Lazy, careless and irresponsible so it’s no surprise they’ve produced children that are the same
@@LibertarianLatinaI'm a parent and my 18 year son, who knows he is a man and has a female girlfriend, doesn't trust government, the media and despises all woke agendas. He knows the republicans are the flip side of the coin from the democrats. Same silver shekel. He once even offered fruit to furries at school to replenish their fruitness. He believes in God but knows that religions are control systems and quackery at best. He was taught the golden rule is the basis of all morality. He knows that ninety nine point nine percent of all wars are to make somebody rich and have nothing to do with protecting anybody. I also taught him not to believe a statement by myself or anybody else, but to investigate it and think about it himself. To use his God given intellect and moral compass to determine what is right and best. So don't blame all parents, just the ones who keep their mouth shut. Or agree with the establishment. Now, being that I am not a slave owner, what he chooses to do with the teachings I gave him are entirely up to him. If you ever become a parent or if you are, you will know or should understand this someday. Any child that is a clone of their parent never really became an individual. The best we can do as parents is to teach them to think for themselves. A well known fact is the preacher's daughter is often a complete whore.
It's true of most modern children... Few if any ever had a part time job in recent decades. Very few walked to school in all weather, or lacking instant communications ever had to solve a genuine life or death problem...
What tantrum? I see some young people fact checking a polemic in real time. You might never have thought to question what a middle aged man in a dinner suit says, but speaking as a middle aged man who wears a dinner suit from time to time I'm glad to see the next generation checking to see if they're being lied to. It's better than servility for servility's sake
@@guywilletts2804 Total disrespect from their dress to their lack of attentiveness. More people were there to comment than listen. THEY were the experts, he was there to listen to them! Cambridge has been turned on its ear: The patients are running the asylum. But one quick look from the start shows few took this lecture seriously. Facts RARELY matter more with this class than the political "Flavor of the Day".
It’s remarkable how every time he says something positive about Britain, there’s at least an 80% chance that the girl in the stripes looks towards her friends with a dopey smile on her face, looking for affirmation from them to consider what was just said ridiculous. She can’t think on her own and has to outsource it to her equally rude and ignorant friends
It's because that doesn't really matter to them. The things happening in other countries have no bearing on their own lives. A fact he repeatedly pointed out. They look back on their ancestry with a mixture of shame and a grudge towards whomever is perceived today to be responsible for those events hundreds of years ago. The white descendants today are culpable for how these kids feel now, by being the only ones alive left to blame. And naturally the way to make things all better is a pay day.
The UN estimates that there are 50 million slaves today, mainly in Africa and the Muslim world! From Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, to Indonesia! Current students are grossly ignorant because they refuse to learn!
Well, I am from India and I can they do not need to pay the reparations now. Its childish to ask for this from them. But its right to teach them what really happened and not the modified history. Acknowledging the fact that what done was wrong would be more appreciated than returing few money out of 45 trillions stolen out of my country.
I always thought that Cambridge was a prestigious university and that the young people learn real stuff there, like history and other things. Not WOKE crap!!
@@TheHoodVoice2024You aren't. Why the hell should I pay you money when I have nothing to do with you? Grow a brain, dude. If you wanted to do something with your life, you could. You're no slave. Just a slave to victimhood. The biggest thing holding some black people down right now are themselves. Notice how I say some since there are plenty of black people who don't play the victim and have normal lives.
@@TheHoodVoice2024The same argument works here. The reparations were living in the technological society without being enslaved, the increase in quality of life was what they got and have had for long periods of timw
Brilliant... As a black Canadian of West a Indian descent, I could NOT agree more! Furthermore, does ANYONE think that once reparations were handed out, that black people will admit that the debt is paid and that there would be an end to all this nonsense? I fear that people would say that this is only the beginning. No reparations.
Anyone with any integrity wouldn't accept reparations - it's money generated by slavery. It's basically saying 'Hey, you sold my great-grandfather - where's my cut?'
As the manager of an English academy in Germany, I was appalled by the behaviour of the students in the hall. They were no better than hyperactive children, chatting and playing with their phones during a great talk. I would never tolerate such rudeness in my lectures.
@@garbonzo1947 well the title chosen by the crown and this man self-identifies is a pretty good indicator of who and what he represents (a false narrative on colonization, slavery and murder).
Thankyou Rafe. I have working class ancestry: rural, industrial, military/canon fodder and out of work. We had nothing. I grew up in English Folk history . Whilst I mourn all the horrors of the past. There'll be no reparation from me.
Dont worry, those individuals will be bunch of nobodies, their studies are pointless and useless, they just want an A4 piece of paper with Cambridge stamp on it, so they can be two positions higher in the corporation they will feed their soul to.
@@Ashigeru47 You make the mistake of assuming that the students are actually there to learn. What is the point of learning if you already HAVE all of the answers?
I love this guy, “not just yet, thank you”. A very courteous and quick shut down of opinions which are reacting emotionally, most likely barely hearing what’s truly being illuminated.
This historian agrees.Furthermore,many former British & UK colonies still use British & UK laws & constructs &,more/less,the same colonial language of English.Today’s world is more interconnected due to the British & the UK of the past.
Absolutely embarrassing to see Cambridge students being so disrespectful and wilfully ignorant. That's the kind of behaviour you'd expect to see in a poor performing inner city school.
They weren´t that bad compared to rioters in Yale and Evergreen colleges. In fact, these youngsters behaved relatively well and didn´t interrupt the lecture at any point even when they were visibly dissatisfied with it.
I'm proud of these students for allowing him to speak and not screeching unintelligibly about their feelings and objective truth while attempting to claw his eyes out as indeed would have happened in the US.
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Christian "intolerance" is a grand joke from you. Do share what is the Islamic version of "intolerance"? Genocide of unbelievers sound about right for you?
The rudeness of the students in sight is shameful. Their angry or revolted or smug, ignorant mocking demeanors are a disgrace to the university, which clearly is no longer holding the highest standards. Those are the faces of our failed future.
They're nippers, Griffin. They'll come along. Right now they're living in a bubble, their comfortable, preferred narrative reinforced at all opportunities with vanishingly few opportunities to hear anything else and almost no incentive to investigate for themselves into the actual facts. But the curious ones, the ones who are honest with themselves, the ones with bullshit detectors will soon start to grasp that they're being led down the primrose path. I recall that at their same age I too was convinced of my invincibility, invulnerability, infallibility, immortality. That will start wearing off soon in the harsh light of actually having to make a living in an environment where it's results that count, not dogma-memorization brownie points.
Although I agree with a lot of what he says, I think you might need to seek a person to talk to possibly. It's not healthy to think this way about the future..a bunch of students eagerly wanting a say in a debate isn't going to destroy us all
In full view of the camera! That's how oblivious these students are. I can't imagine having a camera actually pointed in my direction and behaving like this in a lecture. Rude to the max.
And playing with their phones... and most of those phones were manufactured by very cheap far-eastern labor (i.e. slavery) and include component mined by low-wage slaves in africa. But at least they have the latest "smart" phone.
50% of the students that we see in the background can't sit still long enough to absorb what is being said, let alone expect them to have the intelligence to take any of this information in.
That's the SSRIs they're all on. These people will shout at you how the world should be run but they're literally on drugs to keep their brain from telling them to kill themselves every day because they're so pitifully miserable
Phone addiction is a real problem... Everywhere you look people are looking down. The youth of today have been destroyed by phones and social media. Hopefully the next generation will see the problem.
The single most important skill a student needs to master is the ability to listen. Clearly we are failing the young by not teaching it hard enough in schools before they get to university.
False. The single most importsnt skill a student can learn is how to identify bullsh¡t. Filling their head with every stupid thing some lazy slavery apologist says is not a great use of time. This mans arguments are bad.
Wow, to think this University claims to be one of the best in the world is incredible. The students visible and audible in this video were immature, rude and clearly not interested in hearing something that differs from their own ideologies. The whole point of Universities is to be a place where people with open minds can learn new or different ideas and then go on and create something new or better from them.
Hats off to Rafe for continuing his speech with dignity, clarity, and a refusal to be intimidated by the kindergarten on his right. These institutions need to be held accountable for the funding clearly being squandered on young people who hold no more claim to scholarship than a five year old.
Didn't you watch the video? No one tried to intimidate him. Even though he went on a rant of BS. Why didn't he mention that former British colonies are more likely to be war-torn? You people don't like facts, you just love BS
British citizens already did pay reparations through their taxes. Only problem is it went to the families of slave owners. Including the royal family 😊
Income? I guarantee not a single child in that room isn't getting a free ride from mommy and daddy. I think my white privilege is broken. I got parents who could only help pay for books for community College. Glad we saved our money. If this is what one of the most prestigious universities in the world looks like...
I'm an African and I think it's a long time since we stopped crying and made our countries better. China was colonized, so is Singapore and the like of the First World countries and they have moved on ahead. But for Africa, we are still enslaved by our greedy and selfish leaders who have no will to develop their countries.
Very few countries were colonised, if they were we would see large white populations in those countries the way you do on the island of Ireland where there are over a million settler descendents.
These kids, today, are only learning what they WANT to learn about history and whatever narrative they wish to make it to be. Wikipedia is a great source of fake news as ANYONE with an account can alter the information to spew out whichever narrative they want. Kids are not learning anything. They are being brainwashed. I fear for the future if these are the leaders to be.
Well, they are woke and he isn't. So, he's just another bible thumping gun lover country bumpkin who married his cousin, can't read, and thinks the world was created in 7 days. While these kids each have at least 1000 instagram followers, so they are obviously better and know more
They are the result of leftie education..indoctrination. They will graduate and enter the world with their woke thinking in all positions of lower ,influence,and authority its already happening..look around you and find them everywhere you look.
You do realise that you were young and immature once don’t you? These kids are there to learn. Children and young people see issues as black and white until they are educated to the fact that life is one big grey area.
Those kids will learn nothing while they are talking, giggling and playing on their phones and should be ashamed when their are others who are probabaly more intelligent and grasp the opportunity to be there with both hands and achive far more. I bet if you asked them after what thekey points were they wouldn't have a clue.@@kates1974
@@kates1974 I was never that immature. And also, we can call them 'kids' all we want, and they act as such, but they are all adults, unless there is some genius 13 year old currently matriculating at Cambridge, they are all 18 or older, i.e. adults!
they do not want to listen, they already think they know the answer they just want us to get out of their way so they can run everything.... run everything into the ground
If you think that’s bad I just went to church and the lady in front of me was on the phone while her husband was trying to pray and sing. I thought my wife was about to commit a sin in church on that lady.
Except the kid who raises his hand lol, and the ginger girl who keeps chewing her fingernails. It’s quite entertaining, what a great debate, these kids you would hope might learn something
I am a New Zealander, a descendent of a 14 year old slave taken from Africa to Norfolk , England . I could not agree with you more. I and my family have embraced and are proud of all our heritages bringing me to where I am now in life. All I can say is those students need to get out and see the real world and get away from all this woke bullshit. Let’s hope their children have more intelligence.
The blank face of those young people is scary .. I think that asking these young people about the ethics of a person who was not the direct culprit of a crime paying for a potential crime that his ancestor may have committed, is almost the same as asking a cow, that looks at you vacuously while eating grass, about the ethics of uprooting a plant that until a few moments ago was "living happily" and crushing the plant with the teeth so that the cow can live ..
When you see these very privileged individuals disrespect such a highly experienced and educated person it makes me fear for the future of this planet. I getting older and will be pleased that I will not have to be subject to the tyranny that these children will inflict on us, the persecution of free thought, free speech and individualism that we fought for over the centuries. Shame on them!
Incidentally, how are those young people ‘privileged’ - except by intelligence? And how is ‘Babu’ - as we used to call such ‘Uncle Toms*’ - in any way qualified to anything more sport a cumberband around his big fat liver? *see Harriet Beecher-Stowe, “book”
@@f.kieranfinney457 since most slavery was committed by non white groups, it’s interesting that only the white component is being harassed and harried on a daily basis. It’s an unfortunate truth that most captured Africans put into slavery were actually sold and transported into other African areas and held as slaves in Africa and the Middle East. Too many people just watch tv and don’t want to hear the truth as the excuse dies with the lies that whites are the only peoples that took slaves. I read recently that the larger slave owner in North America was a black man! He put the white slave owners to shame in numbers and how he treated them was extremely cruel. I’ll have to dig his name up and post it.
@@f.kieranfinney457First of all, he stated how abhorrent slavery was several times during his speech. Pointing out the many sound reasons why requiring current citizens to make “reparations” for an atrocity that Britain ended in 1805 is folly doesn’t make him an apologist. Secondly, being polite and listening while someone offers an opposing view, particularly when it is well stated and based on fact and reason, doesn’t equate to the audience putting him on a pedestal. Civility towards those who reasonably believe differently is a hallmark of a stable society. Conversely, the lack of civility, which is increasingly common and even celebrated today, is disheartening evidence of the erosion of societies around the globe.
My daughter in law teaches at Cambridge University. She insists that her students switch off their phones and leave them on a table by the door. One such student started a campaign to have her fired for interfering with his "basic human rights"; thankfully the dean of the college "advised" him of the foolishness of his ways.
no it isnt half of what this liar said is false. he taked about india and said india benefitted from the british when in reality the british commited some of the worst attrocities of all time in india. they destroyed an entire civilisation.india constituted to 30% of world gdp in1700 and the british bought it down to 2%. they caused at least 30 famines in 150 years killing nearly 200 million people. the avg life expectancy dropped to 27 years during british raj. they stole 45 trillion dollars and compelety destroyed indian economy by making very unfair laws at gun point. the literacy rate when they left was 7 percent and they divided the country into 2 on the basis of relegion which would result in 100s of million people getting diplaced and result into further 10 million deaths. it boils my blood to hear know that this is what they teach you in britian. hiding and atrocity is an atrocety itself. i do not as for reperations, all i ask is to at least admit what they did bcs it seems like they have manged to cover up their crimes at least in their own country.
@@sahilbishnoi8944 You unfortunately are speaking from prejudice and ignorance, and are easily fooled by weak arguments, unable to give proper context to numbers. India went from 30% of world GDP to 2% not because the GDP of the subcontinent decreased, but because of industrialization in Europe: Before industrialization, GDP was narrowly linked to population size, but the GDP of newly industrial powers skyrocketted. Then you speak of "unfair laws at gun point", which is true, this is what all non democratic states do BTW, and the entire historey of India prior colonization. Now are you questioning that the british have not immensely improved equality among indians, and between men and women? Are you questioning the fact that burning widows alive has been stopped by the british? etc... And your argument about indian population has been in advance countered in the video. The population of India has surged since colonization; as for famines, they were not a rare event on the subcontinent. A simple lookl at the demographic of colonized lands tells all there needs to be said of the question of the benefits of colonization, population surge implies higher life expectancy, implying in turn better life. The main issue with people like you is that you are guilty of presentism. You see events from past century out of context, incapable of looking at the realistic alternatives, and worse, think like a 21th century person at the issues of the time.
I went on a trip to Jamaica years ago and I talked to a guy there and he said he had no grudge against the British and stated the exact same thing that this speaker said about having a better standard of living there than they would have in Africa. He said, "now we have our own country, and it is a beautiful country." He had a great attitude about it all.
Too often these kinds of videos serve nothing more than to slam africa especially subsahara africa, sub-saharan african nations have already apologized for their part in it what's more these kinds of video say nothing about the impact of islam and christianity on african slavery, for them it is enough to simply say "slavery existed before we came". Anyone truly interrested in the subject should look at the rise of slave kingdom you will see that these were the very same kingdoms that traded with muslims and christians in exchange for weapons then preyed on those who did not. To stay on the subject though i am from subsahara africa and almost certain i have a higher standard of living than this guy so it is not a general rule, what's more you've got african nations with higher gdp per capita and than jamaica. Many of these gains are fairly recent because countries like china are interested in investing in infrastructure in the region for future trade partners, this is the main reason they are so popular here.
It never ceases to amaze me the sheer arrogance of the woke that they presume to know how people in other nations should act, think or feel. It is ironically neo-colonialism in it's purest form.
I went to Jamaica 3 years ago.. they still don't hold grudges. They are proud of who they are and don't need to feel like victims. It's Western-driven neuroticism.
Looking at most of those students faces they have already made up their minds not to listen to the facts that is being put to them. I am ashamed of you Cambridge Students.
As a law lecturer of a reputable UK university I can comfortably accuse the modern institutions as nourishing a mindset amongst their students where any fact which doesn't appease their ego driven, self delusional narrative gives them the right to be enraged, abusive and in some cases violent. This is devoid of any dialogue or conversation only that they're entitled to be disrespectful. Appalling behaviour that's sadly a common theme.
@@danika9448 2006? The lecturers of 2006 did not stop lecturing today. They are still there, and they are the ones putting these thoughts in these childrens mind
Cambridge University used to be a hugely respected institution. Watching this, I would never encourage anyone to study there. They need a complete fumigation to rid themselves of these so called students AND the professors responsible for it.
The attitude of those taking higher education is a clear illustration of the degeneration of our society. Clearly have become lost as already said in their fantasy word. The clever manipulators of the destruction of their thinking mind must be well pleased. This manipulation is as clever as that of Gobles under the Hitler regime. Take very serious note of this. Is the next stage a burning of books & then denial of the Holocaust!!!!!!!
@@sendmail7426 why? we should treat an individual as responsible for their actions, not the parents or other "reasons" for their poor behavior. At least if we are talking about adult aged individuals.
Honestly, this man’s words stirred a fire of pride to be British. In recent years, the anti British sentiment has been belt fed and it’s great to hear so succinctly why we should be proud rather than ashamed
It's ok. As an American I'll always respect the contributions the British empire had to history. But I'll also always razz you guys about kicking your asses out of America. Back to the way it should be
there is no prodness in colonialism. Your nation stripped those coutnries from their natural resourcess. The fact those societies turned out bad is also fact, but bad things Britain did are also fact. There are many things to be proud about being British, from science, trough art to sports - but what he said is not for being proud (we messed you up, but if we didn;t sahow up you would be messed up more". That is not an argument. Maybe for not paying reparations, but to be proud of - no.
@@ivanangeli he's right though; british former colonies fared better overall than the other countries; there must be something good they did in the colonies, apart from stripping them of resources
@@jacobsampsonis7782 you kicked no ass, the liberal british elite had no will to fight against the american revolution; besides, you rebelled against a 2% tax, to end up in time paying 20 times more to the new political center
This is Cambridge, one of the oldest and most prestigious institutions in the world. It is an honour and a privilege to be accepted to study at such an institutional. Therefore, it is very disappointing to see how some of the students are being so rude, on their phone and chatting while a guest is giving a presentation.
@@johnnyslane3056 good luck getting a leftist to expound on anything... That is their entire schtick.. Just huck out accusations and emotional tirades having no logical or factual backing.
@@johnnyslane3056 Let me give you a clear example The British launched the first of many attacks on China beginning with the first opium wars in 1839, when the Chinese government (of the Qing Dynasty) saw its citizens been plagued by opium addiction mostly sold by the British who illegally exported to China hundreds of shipments of opium from its colony in India. When China lost the opium wars against Britain, it was forced into signing of the Treaty of Nanjing, By its provisions, China was required to pay Britain a large indemnity, cede Hong Kong Island to the British, and increase the number of treaty ports where the British could trade from one to five, while allowing the British to openly import opium to China. Hong Kong while under the British rule for more than 150 years from from 1841 to 1997, never saw a day of democracy as every single Governor of Hong Kong was a Brit appointed by the British monarch. While British monarch is the supreme ruler of Hong Kong, the Governor is the plenipotentiary representative of the monarch. The position of Governor is extremely powerful, presiding over the Executive Council as well as the Legislative Council of Hong Kong, and has full control of the appointment AND dismissal of members to both councils. so, it would be extremely hypocritical for the UK to now support Hong Kong in its so-called democratic movement once it was returned to Chinese sovereignty while the British never gave the people of Hong Kong a day of democracy during its rule.
Some very ill mannered young people in the audience behind Mr Heydel Mankoo. The authorities managing the debate should have brought order to the proceedings.
The Cambridge Union is run by students - look at the people in the officers chairs at the beginning of the clip and ask yourself if they have the air of people who have a clue about anything.
Exactly! That is the very reason that spoiled, rude, brats behave the way they do. There is NO order, much less any consequences to ridiculous behavior. The parents of the children, yes children that were rude and disrespectful are utter failures.
@@DearMr.Fantasy "Parents", or a couple who managed to support the results of a biological act to an age generally considered to be an adult, and who had the money to send said results to college?
Key word is "rural". More teaching, less indoctrination. There are still schools around here that don't bother taking roll during wheat harvest, as the high school students are out in the fields in combines or trucks. Seeing a rifle or shotgun in a student's car or pickup isn't a huge concern, just an indication that SOMETHING yummy when cleaned and cooked happens to be in season and destined for the dinner table. Funny thing, what they lack in SJW and Gender Identity training seems to be offset by an ability to read, write, do basic math, and apply logic and common sense to resolve a problem.
At the risk of sounding old - these students are at a premium educational establishment - if they do not want to listen to someone trying to educate them They should be thrown out and replaced with the ones who "just failed" the entrance exam
That being the case, they are most likely to come from families whose ancestors actually DID own slaves or were involved in the slave trade and therefore they themselves have benefitted from it.
@@Yawnyaman Exactly, I don’t think the people criticising the students have experience of debates. The occasional Point of Information request is not “rude”.
The fact that these people are using their phones during his speech is deplorable. Such bad manners seem to be acceptable today but it is ignorance in the extreme.
I’m currently enrolled in university, nothing of the (apparent) caliber of Cambridge. But I see this in lecture theatres constantly, students chatting, playing games, sitting on their phones and just being immature while getting educated from the brightest minds in their field trying to provide discourse and encourage critical thinking. They couldn’t care less and It’s very hard not to get cynical.
Fuck them, in level 3 IT I didn’t bother with my classmates, I focused on getting the highest grade and I did, it was only when I got a girlfriend that my uni years failed, too distracting.
I also got to university, and I imagine we are of different programs. Many individuals goto university through parental or societal pressures and thus do not see it as a blessing. However, in terms of my program many students are quite interested in the course material as well as the professor. I am in Greek and Roman studies, with a minor in archaeology and linguistics. Nonetheless, you should be proud you see your education and faculty for what they are. Do not worry about the others, many of them will not remain.
I have been giving this a lot of thought lately and it is 2 fold. First is people think we are smart enough, wise enough, moral enough to make our way through life with out any kind of objective moral framework like the Bible and Religion. That we can just make it up as we good this is partly the fault of the protestants. The 2nd which accelerated this process to lightspeed is the internet allowing people with whatever whim or flight of fancy they have to be validated and indulged because there was going to be SOMEONE else like that in the world. Rather than properly repressing and growing out of such stupidity they let the delusion continue to the point of becoming their identity. This is how or why these people refuse to give it up because they have staked all they are on that identity. It gets harder and harder not to see the wisdom in the first commandment which is, "Thou shalt not have any other gods before me."
We have several streams here, a youth mostly interested in quick soundbites, a media happy to peddle spin and lies in soundbites, a virtue signalling generation not willing to say things that may be interpreted badly on social media etc. All of these things alone to encourage dumb communication The man may be right or wrong, you may agree or disagree, but his points were actually well made and done in good faith. It made me think.
The looks of indignation on these children's faces when facts are presented is priceless. I am guessing they will have the exact same look on their face when they enter the real world, and start their very first job.
Those students didn't WANT to listen, once they realized that the man's points were unassailable. Their discomfort was obvious. I wonder how many students, if any, actually listened and took the time to even consider a new point of view that might take them our of their comfort zones?
His argument is unassailable only as long as you don't examine it critically. Once you do so, you can see it's really a very weak argument. See my take-down above.
@@timaddison868 none to be seen above. Quite likely it is a lot further down in the comments. You do know UA-cam shows your own starting comments at the very top, right? And all others see something very different I have read from the top, seen you give this reply several times, but your main thesis is not to be found yet
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 The problem is not that his facts are incorrect; it's that they're not relevant facts. He states at 1:43 that, were it 1807, he probably would agree that former slaves were worthy of damages. But, he argues that, it's not 1807; it's not even 2007, and that, at 2:46, whereas 19th century slaves suffered terribly, "their descendants have a far better quality of life had they remained in Africa." That may be so. But, by not having made reparations in 1807, former slaves were not able to acquire the sorts of assets, such as land, houses, investments or savings that could be passed along to their heirs. A person who has land or a house can borrow against it and use those funds to invest in a business or education; they can also reinvest the money they save by not having to pay rent or mortgages. The same is true for people with savings and investments. Businesses can also be passed along from generation to generation. But by not paying reparations way back in 1807 (or1865 in the US) former slaves had to start from nothing - and were unable to pass along anything to future generations. So while Rafe Heydel-Mankoo is probably correct that the descendants of former slaves living in the UK are better off than people in the African countries from which their ancestors were kidnapped, they're neither as well off as white UKers, nor as well off as they would be, had their ancestors received reparations. At 3:26 he asks whether descendants of slaves "are entitled to benefit from their (the slaves) suffering?" This phrasing is misleading. Slave owners were the direct beneficiaries of the suffering of slaves. Had the slaves been paid fairly for their work, and been able to buy land and accumulate other assets with their wages, they could have passed those assets on, in which case, their descendants would be the beneficiaries of their hard work - not their suffering. Reparations stand for the value of unpaid fair wages compounded over generations. At 3:28 he tosses a red herring by asking "Who should pay?" The answer to this question - whatever it is - has nothing to do with the fundamental question of whether it is right to pay reparations for slavery. Either it is right to make reparations or it's not. How you going about paying them is a separate question, one to be answered only after answering the first question. His question at 4:49 about why African countries involved in the slave trade aren't also asked to make reparations is a text book example of "what-about-ism." It's silly. At best it's juvenile. At 5:28 he complains that too much energy is devoted to complaints about historic slavery versus slavery as it exists today. But again, it's apples and oranges. These are two separate issues. People in the UK are actively experiencing the effects of a failure of previous governments to make reparations. It's not just natural for them to focus on that issue, but as participants in a democracy, they have an obligation to address that issue head-on. As world-citizens they should also be concerned about slavery in the present day (but who says they're not) - but not before they've taken care of each other. At 6:19 he wonders whether Britain should seek reparations from north African countries which enslaved a million Europeans and answers "No, of course not." Perhaps, however, he answers "no" because at the same time Europeans were being enslaved in Ottoman caliphates and Muslim controlled Italy, Muslim slaves were being held in equal numbers in Europe. At 6:48 he suggests that certain former British slave colonies are doing even better than certain European countries in terms of per-capita GDP, and complains that we never hear about that. But his argument here also, when scrutinized, doesn't withstand analysis. He names the Bahamas, Barbados, St. Kits, Antigua, and Nevis. But what he doesn't mention that these island nations are mostly the beneficiaries of their geographic locations - and not industry or agriculture. Antigua and Barbados generate 61% of their GDP from tourism; Aruba, 60%; the Bahamas 28%, and so on. Portugal, Spain and Mexico generate, respectively, 41%; 15% and 7.5% of their GDP from tourism. At 7:19 he compares former slave colonies, using the UN's HDI, against various other countries and asks and answers "How has the British Empire disadvantaged the Caribbean nations? It's not clear to me." Perhaps it would be more clear if he bothered to look at the Index itself. In 2021, the UK ranked 18th on the HDI. The nearest of its former slave colonies, the Bahamas, ranked 51st. The rest of the video is more of the same; cherry-picked factoids, devoid of context or relevant details; red herrings, and straw men. The students, on the other hand, comported themselves well. They didn't shout him down, or boo, or hiss. They did make occasional noises of incredulity - but why shouldn't they have, given that he either couldn't be bothered to properly research the topic, or was willfully trying to mislead them? The students did make the effort to show up, after all. Anyone and everyone who was in that audience deserved better.
I'm British. I want reparations from Scandinavia and Italy for the Viking and the Roman invasions of Britain.
I’m Finn and want reparations from the swedes, russians, danes and Baltic pirates.
@@speggeri90 and about russia we have still people alive who deserve reparations from Russia, and it's not been even 100 years yet from Paris peace treaty where Finland was made to give up 2nd largest city at that time. not to mention what happened to Ingrian finns.
@@speggeri90then come and get it girlyman, we vikings will be waiting..
I want reparations from the ancient animals that preyed on my ancestors.
Im sending you a check right now
Imagine being at an educational establishment and getting angry when someone actually teaches you something
don't know what it is they do there, but it isn't anything to do with education
@@musicjunk8266 brainwashing primarily, they don't teach critical thinking skills any longer
They're there only for the title, they couldn't care less about actual learning. That's what nepotism and admission based on "diversity" does to an institution. It will result in total loss of integrity.
The perpetually offended woke crowd do not use LOGIC... their fee fees are ruling their head
It's Cambridge - what do you expect? It's not exactly the best university in the country, is it?
Imagine what the yobs who go to Manchester, or Lincoln are like!
Imagine those who don't go to university at all! 🥴
Cambridge proves once again that education and intelligence are two different things.
Very well put :)
Further, there is a difference between education and indoctrination.
Never had there been a truer statement
And Cambridge' students don't have either of those....
This is what happens when you give professors tenure
I’m Slavic, I want reparations from the Turks immediately
Slavs created the word slave btw
I'm half slavic. Do I get half? 😂
@@samuelknight957 🤔
@@samuelknight957 the other half is turkish?
@@Voodoo_Robot English... So I probably owe half the world something too 🙄
Well looking at the students inattention and rude behaviour, my opinion of Cambridge is dimished. I had thought it was somewhat prestigious!
@Jon Gunson most of them seem like future Labour MP's to me, given their disapproval of facts that do not suit their agenda.
@Jon Gunson one might say that oneself cannot try harder when he is only displaying the truth.
I work with these folks sometimes. You are spot on.
if you think that diminished it go look up the quality of the work of their new "youngest black professor ever" jason arday. it's a joke.
Yea these spoilt kids should go back to kindergarten
These people aren’t listening, they’re just waiting for their turn to talk.
Exactly, just look at the kid behind him raise his hand over and over, They invited that man to speak there, but seemed to have no interest whatsoever in listening or hearing his words. 🙄
@@toter-drachethat's because politics with the youth have become a cult and one thing about a cult is you can't tolerate contradictory arguments.
Marxism has slithered it's way into every part of education in white countries and is indoctrinating the young and weak minded people to be it's foot soldiers.
Not talk, run their mouths. It would have been platefuls of wordsalad, replete with all the en vougue phrases and fabricated terms supporting The Victimhood Dynamic. Eeeeew.
Ego driven narcissists... flooding the pockets of mental health professionals. @annemarie1507
Truth. Most people are like this now.
That ghastly rude girl behind deserves to be ignored herself. Parents - you did a crap job with these weak, insipid characters
Harsh but fair !
If you mean the blighter in the orange top, I think it's actually a boy - though you can never tell these days. The same nuisance kept his hand up for most of the time Calvin Robinson was speaking in the same debate (it's on UA-cam somewhere). Calvin eventually gave way and he (the blighter in orange) muttered something about being under privileged. Calvin asked sternly, "In what way are you under privileged? You attend one of the most elite universities in the world, with the opportunity of getting an education second to none. How does that amount to being under privileged?" - Probably not an exact rendition, but that was the gist of Calvin's response. At all events, it seemed to shut him/her/it up.
@@tocaat2410 Chinese kid is a male.
@@BlookbugIVits 2023 , who knows ?
the one with a fupa? Si muy bein
If these are the debates being held by the "greatest university in the entire world" then we are truly fucked
Daddy has dosh., and I am spoilt and always get my own way?????????
Privileged students at an educational institution laughing and smirking at someone actually teaching them facts. Thank you Rafe.
Are you referring to the one girl in the stripey jumper who was always in shot.
and the boy beside her.@@fritzhenning1
@@fritzhenning1and the sulky one in blue on Rafe’s left
Entitled , nepotistic feeble minds
@@raymondrinehart5957they should be. The man is ten times as intelligent as they’ll ever be!
Why are so many students so disrespectful? Parents….are you watching your brats here?
Because he is not saying what they want to hear. Ignoramus's
Because they don't want to hear facts; facts hurt their all important 'feelings'.
No, they're brainwashed by the education system. So much, to the point that other viewpoints are not allowed.
It's a universal thing and with teenage kids myself, who are equally disrespectful. I am adamant it is the lack of corporal punishment. Being in the generation that saw the end of the cane and strap in school, I have watched the deterioration of society since that time.
I agree with Queen B, it's to do with some parents not getting a grip on their kids.
Looking at those students behind Rafe reinforces the fact that these universities are no longer a place of critical thinking. Great speech Rafe, articulate and accurate. Well done.
All public funding needs to be stopped
Agree. Those sat behind are typical of those capable of learning what is required in order to pass A levels to a high standard, whilst not opening their minds to the nuances of life itself.
A few of them seem to be listening. I can only hope the rest of them understand when, if ever, they grow up.
Check out the two black students, the male was pissed and the woman was shocked he was allowed to say the things he did.
Schools & "Universities" no longer teach people HOW to think, they teach people WHAT to think.
Not EDUCATION but instead INDOCTRINATION
A british man talking to a room of modern nazis.
The fact that these kids are not even willing to listen says enough...
their niave toffee nosed southerners... what do you expect lmao
when youve had the life of riley all paid for by your parents, it only breeds kids like these..
Akin to a mob on the loose!
Idealiogical subversion complete.
Yuri Bezminov, 1983.
Their dads will give them jobs. They don’t live in the real world
This is how communism works. Teach the next generation nothing and they will see facts as lies.
No one is listening but they all cant wait to have a tantrum. Absolutel embarassment.
Did i watched another Video? In the Video i saw he spoke in a calm environment and gets applaus in the end.
Yes Roland ... que the toys flying out of prams. 😊🇦🇺
Children do not want to listen to the truth today. They want to develop their own truths. Which are not real.
Their minds have been corrupted by bad teaching or indoctrination and social media.
@@raiky3259 the environment behind was laughing, interrupting, holding up their hands, looking at each other with "this guy is Looney" looks. He had to ask them multiple times to let him speak. It's obvious these kids don't want to hear anything but what they already believe, regardless the facts.
This has to be one of the most articulate, tactful, and well-delivered versions of, "Your argument is invalid, go away." I have ever heard. Well done, sir. Well done.
Some of his arguments aren't entirely accurate, though. For example, he talks about how the idea of reparations is based on the principles of torts. This is somewhat true, but then he says that torts is about making the victim whole. This is not entirely true. For example, wrongful death suits are to make a victim whole per-say. However, the victim in those suits aren't the person who suffered directly from the crime because said person is dead. Thus, the primary victim cannot be made whole. So we allow a secondary victim such as family to sue for the damage done. The suit isn't just for the emotional damage to the secondary person but is also done to help make right a wrong that has been done by at least allowing the family to get something back to fill the void left by the death of the victim.
Another example of where he is kind of correct, but there is more nuance, is his argument that we don't hold the innocent liable for the actions of their forefathers. Except we do sometimes. For example, say Person A drives drunk and negligently hits Person B and kills them. However, person A also dies in the crash. The family of person B can sue the estate of Person A. But why? Person A is dead and gone and that money would normally by law pass to his heirs. Should person A's children be punished by having less of an inheritance because of the actions of Person A? In fact, the heirs of person A could even be the grandchildren or great grandchildren of person A. Should they be punished for the actions of their ancestor? By law, yes, up to the point of the value of the estate. This can even be after the estate has been probated and given to Person A's heirs. Why? Because we believe it is more important that the wrong be made right by taking from what was person A's estate to do what we can to compensate the family of person B for the wrong committed to person B by person A. This obviously isn't exactly the same as reparations, but the concept is similar and exists within tort law. Thus, he is correct in saying it isn't the same, but he misses some nuance by neglecting this aspect.
Next, he asks why the taxpayers should foot the bill for the actions of a small number of slavers. Then he doesn't really dive into that topic, so why don't we? First, governments are responsible for their actions, even if that money ends up being from the taxpayer. I doubt anyone here would object to the government having to pay out if one of its employees committed some harm to someone. For example, would you say the government shouldn't be able to be sued if one of its officers raped a woman while he was acting in his official capacity as an officer? If you say they should, then I could use this man's argument against you. Why should the innocent taxpayer have to pay for the tortious action of the police officer? Is it because the victim was injured by the government in some way, and thus, the government should pay in order to try to rectify the harm? If you say the government should be immune to such suits, then I have to ask you, why? Do you think that the government does not have some liability for the actions of those acting in its employ? Now, obviously, this is a more direct example of the government committing the harm. The British government didn't enslave anyone directly (to my knowledge). But that doesn't particularly matter to his particular argument here. His question wasn't whether or not we should hold the government responsible because it wasn't directly involved. His argument was why the common people should have to pay for damages done by the government via taxes. My response is, because the government already does that in plenty of circumstances where the government is responsible for some harm and most of us agree with this concept because the victim should be made whole and the government is the offender. We can have the later argument of whether the government should be held liable when it wasn't directly involved. But that is a separate discussion, and his argument here isn't a particularly good one.
There is more that I think he says that there is valid critique of it, but I think these three in the first 2 minutes or so kind of demonstrate how his arguments seem to lack proper nuance.
@Utkarsh Gupta So you want their great great great grandchildren to apologize, and open the gate to people like you then saying, "see see, you are guilty,..pay us" you have a large chip on your shoulder
@Utkarsh Gupta Doubt you would go to the Mughals or the Mongols with the same argument
@Utkarsh Gupta Apologise - at first. So I can deduce you are not british saying this.
And secondly, WE FREED THEM ALL. You would still be in chains if it weren't for our forefathers.
I think it is about jealousy at the end of the day by foreigners of today. We did the trade better than anybody else, we then made our society better so we didn't need the trade anymore.
Your comment is nearly exactly the same as the students attitude behind him. I also think it's telling that we don't get to here any actual debate or response from the student body to his rhetoric.
You can agree or disagree with reparations, but the majority of his points / arguments are irrelevant, mis-characterizing, or diversionary (or "invalid").
1. For example, his comparisons of GDP between Caribbean and African countries: 1. Many caribbean countries may have a high GDP per capita, but only because of the soaring inequalities existing in these countries that are a direct result of the same imperial-economic apparatus that brought colonialism to them in the first place. Tax-haven institutional-infrastructure and citizen by investment programs bring lots of money into Caribbean island-states, but it remains concentrated in the hands of oligarchs and property "developers" within these countries in the same way the wealth generated by slave-plantation farming remained in the hands of wealthy plantation owners (or their investors back in Europe). I'd be much more interested in quality of life comparisons for the majority of people, or the statistical mode of earnings (or even Median), as per capita stats are bogus when wealth distributions are so skewed.
2. The African countries he talks about were also destabilized and suffered losses of resources and people at the hands of British/European imperialism over the same time period, which have far-reaching economic legacies up to today, and bear a large part of the reasons for their low GDP in modern times. Same with his arguments about the english language. Yeah, british imperialism spread the english language around the world (and wealth concentrating institutions and private property law) at the same time as it was siphoning the resources/wealth of other societies and committing genocide. Not a surprise that english helps you get by in the world to a better degree in the modern day than non-english speakers. Same with legal institutions that originated in English/European law. Britain/Europe created the rules governing our era's style of economic-imperialism, and roled out the institutions that follow those rules in their colonies. If you rejected these, e.g., Haiti or Cuba, you were serverely punished by the globalized economic elites. It's disingenuous and morally bankrupt to argue that this should count as a "benefit" of colonialsim.
3. The stories we tell, and the answers and arguments we come up with are explicitly defined by the questions we ask ourselves. I think much of this debate around reparations is intentionally funneled towards diversionary topics, rather than being allowed to focus on the underlying structures of economic-imperialism and entrenched hierarchies that oppress people in the present day as much as they did in the colonial past. For example, regarding colonialism: Why did so many Europeans want to uproots and leave their homes in the first place? It's a no-brainer if you were among the elite capitalists who could further their fortunes overseas, but why did so many labourers, tenant-farmers, etc., head over to the new world? Possibly because injustice, wealth inequalities and lack of equal opportunities at home in Britain/Europe pushed them? The speaker brings up the point that "innocent" modern-day tax-payers have no moral or ethical resposibility to pay back the descendents of slavery. Fine, but how about those dwelling within the entrenched hierarchies of wealth and power who benifitted from the inhuman exploitation of people and the land around the world during slave-colonialism, and continue to benefit from this legacy today? In many cases, the families and institutions of economic elitism of 200 years ago are the same existing today, and which continue to exploit people and the land both within Europe and abroad. Regarding reparations, I'd be all in favour of international efforts to re-distribute the vast concentrated wealth of the 1% globally and put it into social programs (e.g., health, education, justice) across "developing" countries and economically disadvantaged areas of "developed " countries. Let me know if you disagree and on what grounds
I am Swiss, and I want to ensure we get to be repaid toll fees from the french, when Napoleon walked with his army through Switzerland. How dare he pay no taxes and toll fees?
I fear this topic may be too heavy for you to comprehend.
toll fees are only payed for cars/vehicles 😋
Dude, you ever heard about Hannibal? 🤣
@@mariuslazar3287 paid .... Tollgates existed before motor vehicles!
I'm Mexican American and your cause is my new priority. We can make shirts and other merch to get the word out!
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
― George Orwell
So true. Students are taught 'what' to think and believe now and not 'how' to think.
Another way of looking at this quote; with perhaps some empathy and self-awareness, would be to consider it from the perspective of the descendants of peoples stolen from their homelands, robbed of their names, robbed of knowledge of their tribes and original family lineage, culture and religion.
A people taught a falsified "Christian" religion, that for example, removed elements that wrote of Moses and the Israelites escape from slavery, so as not to encourage dissent. Predicated on the propaganda of a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus.
As a side note; George Orwell's descendants were recipients of reparation payment as recompense for their loss of human property. A total sum, paid by the British taxpayers, not fully repaid until 2015
@@JIMMYNDMS No one has ever seen a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. He was Jewish. All of the many pictures never show Him as being white, nor black.
Palestinians have not been robbed of homelands, names, etc...they have given up everything to support Hamas, etc...They do NOT want peace, land, or honor.
It really took a long time for the final payment to be made. Thanks for sharing the info.
@@JIMMYNDMS People tend to mix though, most of us aren't purely of any tribe or ethnicity. And as said, had they not been "stolen" from their homelands, they would've lived under objectively worse conditions today.
I doubt most modern people even know that much about their great-great-great-grandparents or beyond. I personally never really learned much even about my grandparents, and I have no idea what their parents were like. But that didn't stop me from developing my own identity.
I think my main problem with this type of thinking is that it boils down to an attempt to group yourself with other people based on superficial commonalities that ultimately don't really define us as individuals. I feel like people should develop their identity via trial and error, by learning how they themselves react to organic real life experiences and how their own reactions differ from those of others. This seems much more useful to me than trying to study how your ancestors lived and what they believed in, given that today's world is so different from what it was a century ago, and given that we know so much more about the world now.
@@VVayVVard on your point regarding mixing etc; I do agree. However, I do find it a bit odd for you to use that as the opening 'leg' with which to build the metaphorical table of your argument; considering this particular 'historian', Rafe Heydel-Mankoo, makes at least a good portion of his living as an oxymoronic example of his own existence. Decrying the failure of multiculturalism and ethnic mixing, while affecting the pomp of an eccentric English aristocrat. Sort of like if all the worst bits of Priti Patel, Suella Braverman and Jacob Rees-Mogg were genetically spliced together...
The members of the African diaspora who were enslaved, were stolen from their homelands. That is not under dispute. The use of quotation marks to undermine the veracity of that fact is akin to being a holocaust denier. Do no persist in doing this.
It is not an objective fact that remaining in their homelands and resisting European intervention (invasion) would have resulted in worse living conditions today. In an independent comment above, I list but a few examples of great achievements across the continent of Africa; to negate Rafe's insinuations and Eurocentric common perceptions. Even to this modern age, NGOs, working hand in hand with Nestlé visited various regions in the 70's, 80's and earlier, encouraging uptake of their branded baby formula, as superior to mother's milk. Due the propaganda of "West knows best" many babies died due to inadequate infrastructure for clean drinking water.
Another such example is the so called "Angel of Death" in Uganda. A wealthy European American with barely a nursing qualification, who took it upon herself to travel to Uganda, under the guise of altruistic benevolent medical care. 100s of babies died because she didn't know her rectum from her forearm synovial joint.
Underdevelopment and rampant theft of art, culture and resources; all while encouraging, via clandestine means, the displacement of governments focused on progressing African interests; from the toppling of Gadaffi, all the way back to the creation of political unions via intermarriage between ruling tribes and slave traders and in between with governmental coups, embezzlers and international fallout from US/UK created militant groups such as Al Queda funding civil war via brutality to gain blood diamonds. Similar to Oliver North and Ron Reagan's Nicaraguan Contra's funnelling cocaine into America.
Western intervention is rotten. It's definitely subjective, not objective to say life would be worse with out it. But at the current circumstances, things are akin to burning down an African's house, stealing the natural resources in his garden; building him a corrugated iron shack, then telling the citizens of your country, and the rest of the world how kind you are for providing aid, and how lazy the African is for needing it. All while still owing him several thousand/millions/billions of pounds.
I won't say there have been no benefits from colonialism etc. However, my view is these, and more, could have been achieved without European hindrance.
In regards to identity; your personal, anecdotal experience is totally valid, I won't dispute that. I do find it strange you've used this quote from George Orwell, debating who it's most applicable to, is the most appropriate forum, but to each their own.
I totally agree with you that one must find, within, and also build for oneself, their own identity. Not reliant on peers or blind nationalism, nor the long dead traditions of one's ancestors.
Can you really ignore the rampant market growth of DNA tracing, websites like Ancestory.com and huge viewership of TV programs like "Who Do You Think You Are?", which trace family past history, and others, which reconnect adopted people, and others, who for whatever reason, have major obstacles in the way for them to trace even their recent history and relatives.
I'm glad for you that your chose disregard for your familial past works; many, many others believe in the adage that "those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it".
It's especially frustrating, when someone in your position talks of how you've been fine and dandy taking no interest in looking to your grandparents, or even beyond. That is not a luxury of choice afforded to all; many of whom had that choice forcibly snatched from them in traumatic circumstances.
The entire notion of confiscating money from people who never owned slaves (and, in most cases, whose ancestors never owned slaves) to hand it over to people who were never slaves is so utterly absurd that it defies description.
Wealth begets more wealth which begets more wealth...
Over years, Land, shares, diversified wealth... History of wealth source dissapears
Systemic racism + Generational wealth = Reparations 3:42
Or who even had ancestors who were slaves.
@@Nipponing Or even worse, their people sold their people into slavery.
can we take from the queen or king?
All those that are slaves, please raise your hands.
Right. None here. Carry on.
If the kids sitting behind him are representative of the school, then Cambridge University should be embarrassed for what it is producing. Their behavior shows a lack of intellectual rigor, civility, and emotional self management.
That's because wokeism is not an intellectual stance, but a social acceptance strategy. It's value lies in social signaling to others. All the cool kids are woke! They're also anti- intellectual because cool kids know there's no social value in entertaining challenges to wokeism. It would be social suicide in fact. Leftists have hijacked young people's natural fears about not fitting in to serve their leftist political goals. Be woke and you'll fit in immediately! That other immature behaviors are reinforced by this group, brought together by their own immature needs, is unsurprising.
'Dope heads' who just managed to 'scrape through' their Eleven Plus exams. I found more intelligence on a factory floor!
You sum it up perfectly 🍻
Don’t blame the kids, blame their tutors.
@@trevermcdonald2402parents also , whole education systems become so fixated with woke nonsense it's failing to teach many the fundamentals
Some Obnoxious and rude children in that audience
Applause. Facts are facts. Ignorance is ignorance. Brilliant, factual speech.
Bullshit.
These kids are part of a generation that is too thoroughly in Doctrine 8ted to even think about what an opposing viewpoint looks or sounds like. Look at all their confused faces…it like they literally don’t understand what is going on; like they are looking around for their instructors to step in and save them from something.
Couldn't agree more.
@@reven-docta79 They are being told their gods do not exist and its uncomfortable.
@@basedmathh 😂I concur 👍
I am so impressed with Mr. Heydel-Mankoo. He is a brilliant man : clever, intelligent, well informed and extremely articulate with a great sense of humour. These ignorant, unsophisticated children would do well to listen this gentleman and LEARN something. He was, sadly, "casting pearls before swine".
You can see how patriotic these privileged University students are, how they love Britain. They don’t have a clue what’s been before them and will be blind in the future to what they will have been party to.
The instructors at these institution have a different less reasoned opinion. Mr. Heydel-Mankoo could never teach the "education/indoctrination system" would not allow him to teach. There is still grinding poverty there right in Britain. Capitalism has failed come to fruition, instead we have economic feudalism masquerading and capitalism. How to rectify that is what they should be looking to do. You cannot have righteous indignation and clutch your placard though. You have to think. A much harder thing. A lot of powerful people are seeing that you do not solve that problem.
Isn't it sad that some of those young people behind him do not want to hear any alternative narrative other than their own? And these are university students who should know that you need to hear and investigate alternative viewpoints in order to make valid decisions. But I have been very suspicious of universities teaching free thinking as opposed to their own narrative for a long time.
You got all that from facial expressions?
@@WherEmEweeD Perhaps Diana '...got all that...' from the contemptuous disrespect shown to a guest speaker!
The Cambridge Dictionary in 2023 changed its definition of 'woman' to include mentally ill men.😡
We have allowed them to be groomed by left wing radicals since they started attending school.
@@WherEmEweeD No from their rudeness at scrolling on their phones and talking whilst the guest speaker was. Clearly not interested in hearing the real facts!
Shameless students being disrespectful instead of listening.
Can't believe how rude those students are behind him, it's almost primary school levels of attention not University.
Because their mentality is equal to elementary shool children
Exactly how my H.S was. I always wondered when they would grow up. Guess they never do
Exactly! How rude how smug how entitled those students who were sat behind not the behaviour I would expect from Cambridge University students .
My expectations are that in a democratic debate you have the good manners to listen then make your argument/ reply rather than acting like smug school children it was very rude and immature.
I am not shitting you, I was asking myself why they had someone come in and speak with such sophisication to a bunch of teens. Well joke's on me, these are supposed to be adults!?!?
It was not a lecture. I agree with everything the speaker said, but his refusal to accept questions and comments, especially from the gentleman behind him, who politely raised his hand several times, was an act of intellectual cowardice.
What rude little oiks sitting there snickering and playing on their phones nor did they clap. If they had listened they would have learnt something.
Great talk Rafe.
God save us from these people in the future.
These "Children" are why better birth control should be used, a disgrace!.
They don't and won't accept the truth
The ginger minger
Learn English and try again.
Frankly, I'm appalled at the students in the audience. Some turned up in what appeared to be their pajamas, talked constantly throughout the presentation, fiddled on their phones, made faces all throughout the speech, and actively tried to interrupt. It was clear that they weren't engaging with the argument or the subject matter. I remember a time not all that long ago where children younger than the ones in the audience would be promptly disciplined for displaying such behaviour. It wasn't passionate behaviour, it wasn't active engagement, it wasn't enthusiasm, it was plain rudeness. I wouldn't expect such behaviour at a high school debate, let alone one at Cambridge.
These students have no respect for what was being said or for the speaker. The only thing they were concerned about was their own point of view and getting it out there. You notice that as soon as he mentioned Europeans being slaves, the two black students behind him rolled their eyes and laughed. Clearly, all these students need to learn REAL history. The slave trade was the first international trade, slave buying and selling has gone on since humans have existed.
At least they weren't shouting him down like they would on an American campus.
a generation of irresponsible twats that have zero critical thinking skills, zero self respect and so little understanding of history that they will turn on their own.
@@judyhenderson1629 If you look more closely she rolls her eyes at something the guy next to her said not at the speech
Well said
I am an African and from one of the minority tribes. I 💯 % agree with your analysis on slavery and colonialism (Speech).
Facts are facts, your agreement or belief is irrelevant even if you're from Saturn or the Quanta Sea.
Nice comment
If being a slave is the best way to help your children, please don't breed!
An African banned Jeff Stevens 😂 Very African name indeed 😂 So many white ppl larping as other races online LOL
It is obvious by your comment that you have a clear understanding of common sense and history. I tip my hat to you Sir.
There is nothing more insufferable than a self-righteous, all-knowing, young person.
"Its a shame that youth is wasted on the youth"
@@smithical100 If you are to qoute George Bernard Shaw correctly 'Youth is wasted on the young'
They have a small handful of knowledge and think they are well armed.
they lack the life experience to have been corrected in the past. as we get older we will many times have experienced a change of opinions, be it because our morals and values changed or because we found facts that proved our previous stance wrong. young people have never had this happen to them so they have no reason to believe what they think is right could ever be wrong, it has never happened to them after all.
they arent challenged in life either, teachers are overwhelmingly left leaning, universities are overwhelmingly left leaning, etc. they go through life with zero challenges so they become self righteous little brats.
Know it all more like know bugger all😂
“ I never owned any slaves, and you never picked any cotton!”. Brilliant. Thank you Rafe.
I have both slave and slave owner ancestors. Must I pay my right pocket from my left?
Most of them just looked bored ..!!
@@johnlovin6465 Yes, oppressor and oppressed. You have my deepest sympathy for the injustice you did to yourself, you racist pig!
@@johnlovin6465 Wish I could give 2 thumbs up for that!
If they need to be paid maybe the black slave traders that actually captured the natives in Africa and sold them in other countries
It’s infuriating watching those children leer at truth.
Those kids laughing in the background do not deserve to be at that institution.
Amazing argument.
You are totally correct. 11:56 The young, not so adult acting students, would benefit more from listening, not chatting amongst themselves.
They are idiots, what can you do
Exactly kids ! Idiots
No argument is flawless - if you find this absolutely convincing then you need to think more critically. Heydel-Mankoo is making a forward-looking argument for distributive justice, hence why he talks about current wealth distributions and foreign aid rather than corrective justice through reparations (he is not making the argument which many comments seem to attribute to him - that we have no international obligations). There are several reasons why you might disagree with his argument:
1) We are historically tied to past-colonies in the same way we're tied to fellow citizens. We were under the same legal web (government) and this justifies obligations which may not be present towards other countries which we do not have colonial ties to. You might argue that we are no longer historically tied, but this does not make a difference when the terms of dissolution were coercive or exploitative (which they obviously were - see France & Haiti for example). Imagine you own a restaurant with your spouse, then get a divorce, but your spouse blackmails you into accepting a bad deal. Would they still owe you money?
2) You might think that a wrong is continuously perpetuated for as long as it is not resolved. So if your great great grandmother was harmed, that could mean your great grandmother was also harmed, and your grandmother, mother, and you. Would this justify stupid examples like Scandinavia paying reparations to Britain? No, since "harm" is not simply lowering welfare; it can also be defined as depriving someone of basic necessities (this is one definition, based on the threshold conception of harm, and there are many others - another point which Heydel-Mankoo oversimplifies with his nonsense talk of "indisputable facts").
3) You might think that the relevant counterfactual for colonialism (i.e. "Would they be better off?") is not "Would they be better off without colonialism?" but rather "Would they be better off with fair terms of cooperation?". Why choose the former over the latter? Either seems plausible. And on the latter interpretation, clearly colonialism was/is bad for the people of Jamaica as well.
4) The whole aside on the intra-African slave trade and the constant what-aboutism is just irrelevant. We are not responsible for what other countries do - we are responsible for what we do.
@@georgebarber3280 4) we are responsible for what WE do. Not our country, not our ancestors-our own actions. Nothing more, nothing less.
The deliberate ignorance of university students is beyond belief.
“War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. History is Bunk.”
1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale. The woke/left-wing nutters are using as an instruction manual.
They would never do this in Oxford 😂
They hate truth and FACTS.
@@darrenjones1413 Give it time.
Sad to say, the more education you have today, the more deliberately ignorant you become.
This guy is an absolute legend! Nobody can argue with a single thing he said because he spoke nothing but facts 👏👏👏
no one can argue with him because they are a bunch of entitled brats that think they already have the world figured out
I agree with you that he’s likely right, but any topic can and should be argued with.
Whataboutism is facts now? Notice he did not show one receipt proving Africans SOLD humans and not kidnap or steal. He spent more time shifting blame from slave owners rather than proving a point as to why their accumulated wealth shouldn't be given to descendants of inhumanely enslaved humans.
@@CarsonHughes85 yeah when you are in the same topic. Hopefully on the same facts with just a other interpretation. Or when facts are in question, better have a similar or better explanation why your facts are better and worth the comparison to find the truth
@@ichmich9324 definitely. I’m currently listening to the full debate.
Is this really what Cambridge students are like today? It’s really declined….bloody hell.
Seeing these students makes it obvious why the world is in such a mess.
What? They were raised by today's adults to have this attitude. It is the continual forcing down our throats since WWII of the idea that mature adults do not know anything important, and moreover cannot live with, adjust to, and even bring about change that has been the problem. A person rarely knows what is important until about age 60, so expect respect elders!
@@simonestreeter1518wrong. Most were raised on the internet.
@@simonestreeter1518
Most people would argue that intelligence reaches its peak at around the same time as physical speed - round about the age of twenty-two.
It becomes increasingly difficult to learn new things after that.
Using language as an example, on top of English - my mother tongue - I was able to pick up French (one did in those days); Italian (from exposure to classical music); some German (on family holidays to Switzerland, the Rhine etc.), Spanish (because it’s easy), Latin and Classical Greek (at school, because they were hard 🫣).
So that’s err… (lost count a bit) by age of twenty, in my case, when I graduated.
I still ATTEMPT to learn new languages but it’s a hopeless task, I’m afraid. Now I’m sixty, it’s useful only to help exercise a shrinking brain. My sister has fifteen languages I think. I’ll never catch up. It’s impossible, unfortunately. She had at least twelve before she was thirty.
Likewise music, my chief passion. I still try to fit in four hours or so piano practise per day. But I don’t get any better. I just stop myself from getting worse, more quickly.
Thus, sad to say, if you had learned little before you were sixty - as you claim - it’s too late now, really. But you should still TRY to learn new things because you can - albeit at a much-reduced rate.
Best wishes
Hmmm. The world is always thought by the elderly, like us, to be in decline.
The UK is currently f*ck*d, that’s true. But this is the exception, merely due to this Brexidiocy nonsense and the monstrous creatures which it has allowed to escape from under various flat rocks.
The young people will sort us out. Throughout history, they always have, The majority of Spitfire pilots were very, very young. They saved their elders from the Nazis. Today’s young will be similarly heroic, I’m sure.
Best wishes
@@robertcottam8824 I'm sorry for your frustration, truly, as we share two passions: music and languages. However, at 59, I have finally become fluent in everyday French (level B2) and am gaining proficiency and singing better than ever though I was professionally trained for four years. I also am not speaking of these kinds of acquired knowledge, I am speaking more of wisdom, e.g., the ability to understand other people, oneself, to choose more satisfying values, to achieve mental and emotional independence, to carry myself effectively in the world. These things have greatly increased for me since age 50.
The reactions of those students is classic lesson in human phycology. Truth, facts and logic are a rude, awkward and uncomfortable intrusion into their emotion driven, virtue signaling bubble.
Exactly. They programmed robots. Incapapable of independent thought.
I'm surprised most of them didn't flee to their "Safe Space" in tears.
I bet if you told each of them, for the next 30 years 1/4 of their earnings were going to reparations they would sit up and take notice to that which he said.
All this subterfuge is globalist misdirection on what they're doing.
They're too young. I once got a 10 cent raise and I was excited about it because I had zero expenses. 20 years later I have a lot of expenses and a family. When you're young and you're not in control of your own finances IE college students you can be mentally free with your money and give it away here and give it away there. Once you realize your body is breaking down and you can't work as hard as you did in your youth for a little money then you start to realize how important it is to let people keep the money that they earn.
I’m impressed that the students let him speak. Here in America if students even think you’ll say something in opposition to what they want to believe, they will drown out the speaker with shouting and tantruming.
You are correct.
Depends on the school. U Chicago or Fordham wouldn't give the speaker a hard time, but try that in UC Berkeley, they'd probably shout at him, chant mindless slogans, and if that didn't work, throw stuff at him as if they were toddlers or something. The students would get a slap on the wrist at worst and the department which signed off on inviting him would apologize to the violent students for it, thus reinforcing the bad behavior.
es you arte right , they have also carried the bad habit into American Politics and into the FBI and CIA where lying under oath also seems to be tolerated. and bearing false witness a part of at least Democratic Party policy.
What you think how many years left for the US to collapse?
Behaviour like that in a university ought to be grounds for suspension or expulsion. A university should be a safe space for IDEAS, not for feelings.
Those kids in that room really think they know about the world yet have never experienced it outside the comfort of their parents wallets.
Correct, which is why I blame parents for the state of the world. Theyre Lazy, careless and irresponsible so it’s no surprise they’ve produced children that are the same
Theyre probably trying to fact check him so they can try to “gotcha” him and go viral on their tik toks
@@LibertarianLatinaI'm a parent and my 18 year son, who knows he is a man and has a female girlfriend, doesn't trust government, the media and despises all woke agendas.
He knows the republicans are the flip side of the coin from the democrats. Same silver shekel.
He once even offered fruit to furries at school to replenish their fruitness.
He believes in God but knows that religions are control systems and quackery at best.
He was taught the golden rule is the basis of all morality. He knows that ninety nine point nine percent of all wars are to make somebody rich and have nothing to do with protecting anybody.
I also taught him not to believe a statement by myself or anybody else, but to investigate it and think about it himself.
To use his God given intellect and moral compass to determine what is right and best.
So don't blame all parents, just the ones who keep their mouth shut. Or agree with the establishment.
Now, being that I am not a slave owner, what he chooses to do with the teachings I gave him are entirely up to him. If you ever become a parent or if you are, you will know or should understand this someday.
Any child that is a clone of their parent never really became an individual. The best we can do as parents is to teach them to think for themselves.
A well known fact is the preacher's daughter is often a complete whore.
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It's true of most modern children... Few if any ever had a part time job in recent decades. Very few walked to school in all weather, or lacking instant communications ever had to solve a genuine life or death problem...
Never let truth, logic and historical fact get in the way of an opportunity for a woke tantrum.
Well, said mate!
lalalalal I am not listening lalalalaa
What tantrum?
I see some young people fact checking a polemic in real time.
You might never have thought to question what a middle aged man in a dinner suit says, but speaking as a middle aged man who wears a dinner suit from time to time I'm glad to see the next generation checking to see if they're being lied to. It's better than servility for servility's sake
@@guywilletts2804 Total disrespect from their dress to their lack of attentiveness. More people were there to comment than listen. THEY were the experts, he was there to listen to them! Cambridge has been turned on its ear: The patients are running the asylum.
But one quick look from the start shows few took this lecture seriously. Facts RARELY matter more with this class than the political "Flavor of the Day".
@@guywilletts2804 BTW: He was 100% historically accurate. 100%. Prove me wrong. YOU CAN'T. FACTS MATTER.
I’m astonished by the rudeness of the students located behind Rafe. Rafe is correct in pointing out the silence about CONTEMPORARY slavery!
It’s remarkable how every time he says something positive about Britain, there’s at least an 80% chance that the girl in the stripes looks towards her friends with a dopey smile on her face, looking for affirmation from them to consider what was just said ridiculous. She can’t think on her own and has to outsource it to her equally rude and ignorant friends
It's because that doesn't really matter to them. The things happening in other countries have no bearing on their own lives. A fact he repeatedly pointed out. They look back on their ancestry with a mixture of shame and a grudge towards whomever is perceived today to be responsible for those events hundreds of years ago. The white descendants today are culpable for how these kids feel now, by being the only ones alive left to blame. And naturally the way to make things all better is a pay day.
The UN estimates that there are 50 million slaves today, mainly in Africa and the Muslim world! From Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, to Indonesia! Current students are grossly ignorant because they refuse to learn!
Complete and utter ignorance by these idiots. I hope their parents have seen and realising they are wasting their money
Well, I am from India and I can they do not need to pay the reparations now. Its childish to ask for this from them. But its right to teach them what really happened and not the modified history. Acknowledging the fact that what done was wrong would be more appreciated than returing few money out of 45 trillions stolen out of my country.
Why does the tax payer pay for these young people to act so disrespectful to the speaker.
I always thought that Cambridge was a prestigious university and that the young people learn real stuff there, like history and other things. Not WOKE crap!!
If you learned real history you wouldn’t think the way you do.
Study American history and tell me if black Americans aren’t owed reparations.
@@TheHoodVoice2024You aren't. Why the hell should I pay you money when I have nothing to do with you? Grow a brain, dude. If you wanted to do something with your life, you could. You're no slave. Just a slave to victimhood. The biggest thing holding some black people down right now are themselves. Notice how I say some since there are plenty of black people who don't play the victim and have normal lives.
@@TheHoodVoice2024naww
@@TheHoodVoice2024The same argument works here. The reparations were living in the technological society without being enslaved, the increase in quality of life was what they got and have had for long periods of timw
@@RisingFlag100 Invalid argument because everybody got increased quality of life.
Brilliant... As a black Canadian of West a Indian descent, I could NOT agree more!
Furthermore, does ANYONE think that once reparations were handed out, that black people will admit that the debt is paid and that there would be an end to all this nonsense? I fear that people would say that this is only the beginning. No reparations.
Oh yeah, you start giving money...who knows where that leads.
Slippery Slopes are not real remember.
Agreed. And it would probably come out of taxes. Which black people pay taxes too. Just like stimulus checks. Inflation again.
A black Canadian of West Indian descent , huh?🤔 trying to picture that ..I can't.
Anyone with any integrity wouldn't accept reparations - it's money generated by slavery. It's basically saying 'Hey, you sold my great-grandfather - where's my cut?'
@@jamesking1495 Not too hard. I myself am a white West Indian of Canadian descent.
As the manager of an English academy in Germany, I was appalled by the behaviour of the students in the hall. They were no better than hyperactive children, chatting and playing with their phones during a great talk. I would never tolerate such rudeness in my lectures.
I think this is worse than ADHD... It's willful and malicious ignorance.
Great talk? Okay
Perhaps they tire of such sleights of hand.
@@mick8888V What does that mean?
@@garbonzo1947 well the title chosen by the crown and this man self-identifies
is a pretty good indicator of who and what he represents (a false narrative on colonization, slavery and murder).
Thankyou Rafe. I have working class ancestry: rural, industrial, military/canon fodder and out of work. We had nothing. I grew up in English Folk history . Whilst I mourn all the horrors of the past. There'll be no reparation from me.
Extremely worrying that these students are our future.
Dont worry, those individuals will be bunch of nobodies, their studies are pointless and useless, they just want an A4 piece of paper with Cambridge stamp on it, so they can be two positions higher in the corporation they will feed their soul to.
I sent my children to a brainwashing factory. “Im worried about these future leaders. “ these kids are on there phones. Because they are too smart
I thought th emajority were perfectly polite, some lost interst as would happen with any group of young people.
Hopefully WW3 will happen and we won't have to worry about the future
I blame labour & Tories
How lovely of Cambridge University to allow some children to sit in on these lectures.
😂
If only they would have been paying attention... They might have actually LEARNED something for once.
@@Ashigeru47 You make the mistake of assuming that the students are actually there to learn. What is the point of learning if you already HAVE all of the answers?
@@kevincrosby1760 😂😂
Yeah it was creepy how they all looked like 15 year olds.
I love this guy, “not just yet, thank you”. A very courteous and quick shut down of opinions which are reacting emotionally, most likely barely hearing what’s truly being illuminated.
My thoughts exactly. What a remarkable speaker.
This historian agrees.Furthermore,many former British & UK colonies still use British & UK laws & constructs &,more/less,the same colonial language of English.Today’s world is more interconnected due to the British & the UK of the past.
Absolutely embarrassing to see Cambridge students being so disrespectful and wilfully ignorant. That's the kind of behaviour you'd expect to see in a poor performing inner city school.
this really doesnt look good for cambridge. shameful.
They weren´t that bad compared to rioters in Yale and Evergreen colleges. In fact, these youngsters behaved relatively well and didn´t interrupt the lecture at any point even when they were visibly dissatisfied with it.
@@santeriberg8129 truth, this wouldn't have gotten this far at a US school, and the faculty would even jump in to berate him.
@@Jay-gf8tm ..as I would not doubt that at all...good point!
I'm proud of these students for allowing him to speak and not screeching unintelligibly about their feelings and objective truth while attempting to claw his eyes out as indeed would have happened in the US.
Imagine getting upset because the facts don't reinforce your beliefs. It's nursery school behaviour 😒
It's also the basis of ancient and modern Christian intolerance.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 All religions are intolerant, in some form or another. Some religions more than others...
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Christian "intolerance" is a grand joke from you. Do share what is the Islamic version of "intolerance"?
Genocide of unbelievers sound about right for you?
@1AnononA1
NoooOOOOooo!!! You're gonna ruuUUUUUIIIIIiiiiiiin iiiiiiit... 😭
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244Yeah, because Jews and Muslims are sooo tolerant. You gits are blind.
The rudeness of the students in sight is shameful. Their angry or revolted or smug, ignorant mocking demeanors are a disgrace to the university, which clearly is no longer holding the highest standards. Those are the faces of our failed future.
They're nippers, Griffin. They'll come along. Right now they're living in a bubble, their comfortable, preferred narrative reinforced at all opportunities with vanishingly few opportunities to hear anything else and almost no incentive to investigate for themselves into the actual facts. But the curious ones, the ones who are honest with themselves, the ones with bullshit detectors will soon start to grasp that they're being led down the primrose path.
I recall that at their same age I too was convinced of my invincibility, invulnerability, infallibility, immortality. That will start wearing off soon in the harsh light of actually having to make a living in an environment where it's results that count, not dogma-memorization brownie points.
The woke mind virus is very contagious.
Although I agree with a lot of what he says, I think you might need to seek a person to talk to possibly. It's not healthy to think this way about the future..a bunch of students eagerly wanting a say in a debate isn't going to destroy us all
@@23bit76 LOL. I'm guessing it's your kids in this video that all the posters here are appalled by.
They seem to giggle like high schoolers
As a parent it would shame me to admit those privileged little infants were any of mine. Their behaviour was deplorable.
Their parents are likely the same.
Better fix them with slavery.
Their parents are likely millennial marxists with pink hair.
@@commandervile394 doubtful really. Numbers would say otherwise.
Giggling, disrespectful - obviously have no wish to learn because they know it all!
It’s incredible how some students in this privileged place ignore this man and just keep on chatting with friends.
I was thinking the same thing
Your being too kind by calling them students.
In full view of the camera! That's how oblivious these students are. I can't imagine having a camera actually pointed in my direction and behaving like this in a lecture. Rude to the max.
Little spoilt brats .
Plain and simple .
And playing with their phones... and most of those phones were manufactured by very cheap far-eastern labor (i.e. slavery) and include component mined by low-wage slaves in africa. But at least they have the latest "smart" phone.
Their Denialism is disgraceful. Clearly they lack the intelligence to understand what they are hearing.
50% of the students that we see in the background can't sit still long enough to absorb what is being said, let alone expect them to have the intelligence to take any of this information in.
That's the SSRIs they're all on. These people will shout at you how the world should be run but they're literally on drugs to keep their brain from telling them to kill themselves every day because they're so pitifully miserable
I think the boy with a blue shirt is the only one that listened carefully
Most of these students have never read a book in their lives unless forced to do so for an assignment, which makes them easy prey for propaganda.
They're only children.
@@richardcharlton-taylor6024 You don't know what children means.
Phone addiction is a real problem... Everywhere you look people are looking down. The youth of today have been destroyed by phones and social media. Hopefully the next generation will see the problem.
Even in this very video 😂
The single most important skill a student needs to master is the ability to listen. Clearly we are failing the young by not teaching it hard enough in schools before they get to university.
This is why the majority of humans were born with 2 ears but only 1 mouth
I blame the phones clutched in their hands, giving marching orders and other useless info.
Obviously their parents failed to tea h them respect . What I can not understand is why Cambridge admitted them.
@@prepperpatti-rc3nl Too often those kids come from parents that couldn't get respect if they paid for it.
False. The single most importsnt skill a student can learn is how to identify bullsh¡t. Filling their head with every stupid thing some lazy slavery apologist says is not a great use of time. This mans arguments are bad.
Wow, to think this University claims to be one of the best in the world is incredible. The students visible and audible in this video were immature, rude and clearly not interested in hearing something that differs from their own ideologies. The whole point of Universities is to be a place where people with open minds can learn new or different ideas and then go on and create something new or better from them.
Cambridge is no longer considered a AAA university, it is more an echo chamber for marxist ideology and a disemination centre for idiocy
Well said.
Wrong. The whole point of Universities is to indoctrinate you.
They are just rich, spoiled brats, not real people.
It is not a place for open minds anymore sadly...
Hats off to Rafe for continuing his speech with dignity, clarity, and a refusal to be intimidated by the kindergarten on his right. These institutions need to be held accountable for the funding clearly being squandered on young people who hold no
more claim to scholarship than a five year old.
The so called institution of higher learning are stuffy pseudo educational systems. We need to clean house.
Amen!
Didn't you watch the video? No one tried to intimidate him. Even though he went on a rant of BS.
Why didn't he mention that former British colonies are more likely to be war-torn? You people don't like facts, you just love BS
@@ajc5479because they're not. Facts not feelings bud.
They're not even listening behind him.
Great, factual, and truthful speech on slavery. Bravo!
The students calling for reparations should be ready to sacrifice a percentage of their own incomes.
British citizens already did pay reparations through their taxes. Only problem is it went to the families of slave owners. Including the royal family 😊
@C M British taxes also went to pay off the African kingdoms responsible for supplying the slaves.
Income? I guarantee not a single child in that room isn't getting a free ride from mommy and daddy. I think my white privilege is broken. I got parents who could only help pay for books for community College. Glad we saved our money. If this is what one of the most prestigious universities in the world looks like...
And give up their seats at Uni.
No. Let them be slaves. Idiots
I'm an African and I think it's a long time since we stopped crying and made our countries better. China was colonized, so is Singapore and the like of the First World countries and they have moved on ahead. But for Africa, we are still enslaved by our greedy and selfish leaders who have no will to develop their countries.
They need leaders like you x
China was not colonized... Singapore WAS a colony of GBritain through the E.I.C,not IS.
Very few countries were colonised, if they were we would see large white populations in those countries the way you do on the island of Ireland where there are over a million settler descendents.
What would you say about France and it’s colonial powers in west African
If your leaders were actually greedy and selfish, they wouldn't enslave anyone. Your leaders are altruistic and sacrificial.
Imagine, 20 year old kids thinking they know more about the world than a Grown man who grew up in the mess they are “fighting for” 😂
So many before them have sacrificed so much so they can have it easy and what do they do. Mock and laugh. No respect hence the world is in shambles
These kids, today, are only learning what they WANT to learn about history and whatever narrative they wish to make it to be. Wikipedia is a great source of fake news as ANYONE with an account can alter the information to spew out whichever narrative they want. Kids are not learning anything. They are being brainwashed. I fear for the future if these are the leaders to be.
@@denisecrawford2425 what?
Gen-z generation of zombies I'm sure
Well, they are woke and he isn't. So, he's just another bible thumping gun lover country bumpkin who married his cousin, can't read, and thinks the world was created in 7 days. While these kids each have at least 1000 instagram followers, so they are obviously better and know more
North Africa and the White Slave Trade needs to be taught in schools. If reparations where to be agreed upon then white people would be owed more.
The immaturity of these giggly little kindergarteners is frightening. If these are the next leaders, we are truly screwed
I don't think the human race will last that long
They are the result of leftie education..indoctrination. They will graduate and enter the world with their woke thinking in all positions of lower ,influence,and authority its already happening..look around you and find them everywhere you look.
You do realise that you were young and immature once don’t you? These kids are there to learn. Children and young people see issues as black and white until they are educated to the fact that life is one big grey area.
Those kids will learn nothing while they are talking, giggling and playing on their phones and should be ashamed when their are others who are probabaly more intelligent and grasp the opportunity to be there with both hands and achive far more.
I bet if you asked them after what thekey points were they wouldn't have a clue.@@kates1974
@@kates1974 I was never that immature. And also, we can call them 'kids' all we want, and they act as such, but they are all adults, unless there is some genius 13 year old currently matriculating at Cambridge, they are all 18 or older, i.e. adults!
It is gross that we have arrived to place that finds it socially acceptable to be openly playing on the phone while a speaker is speaking.
They were coping as best they could. Poor things. Expell them
They were attempting to fact check his claims. Much of this info is brand new to them.
they do not want to listen, they already think they know the answer
they just want us to get out of their way so they can run everything.... run everything into the ground
If you think that’s bad I just went to church and the lady in front of me was on the phone while her husband was trying to pray and sing. I thought my wife was about to commit a sin in church on that lady.
@@--Valek--
If you were to spell, 'expel' as 'expell' in an academic essay, submitted to me for perusal, I would triple-underline it in red...
Obviously the students behind him aren't interested, so rude.
Thick is probably closer to the truth.
Except the kid who raises his hand lol, and the ginger girl who keeps chewing her fingernails. It’s quite entertaining, what a great debate, these kids you would hope might learn something
It's worse. They uninterested but also outraged.
@@ukusanzwhy does the Asian kid think he has anything to contribute by interrupting the speaker? Why is he so entitled?
Disturbing to see how many of these 'students' are hunched over a cell phone.
I am a New Zealander, a descendent of a 14 year old slave taken from Africa to Norfolk , England . I could not agree with you more. I and my family have embraced and are proud of all our heritages bringing me to where I am now in life. All I can say is those students need to get out and see the real world and get away from all this woke bullshit. Let’s hope their children have more intelligence.
I am also a New Zealander, proud of my English heritage and how my ancestors freed the Maori from slavery and cannibalism.
That's what I am hoping for as well.That their children teach them a lesson or two.
@@jennifergirling6850 Age brings wisdom but how much depends on character
The blank face of those young people is scary .. I think that asking these young people about the ethics of a person who was not the direct culprit of a crime paying for a potential crime that his ancestor may have committed, is almost the same as asking a cow, that looks at you vacuously while eating grass, about the ethics of uprooting a plant that until a few moments ago was "living happily" and crushing the plant with the teeth so that the cow can live ..
You are a white man and tou are lying🙄
When you see these very privileged individuals disrespect such a highly experienced and educated person it makes me fear for the future of this planet. I getting older and will be pleased that I will not have to be subject to the tyranny that these children will inflict on us, the persecution of free thought, free speech and individualism that we fought for over the centuries.
Shame on them!
But the speaker was dreadful. He said nothing at all of substance.
He was there for the entertainment factor rather erudition.
He’s not an academic.
He’s a slavery apologist. Not someone most people would put on a pedestal.
Incidentally, how are those young people ‘privileged’ - except by intelligence?
And how is ‘Babu’ - as we used to call such ‘Uncle Toms*’ - in any way qualified to anything more sport a cumberband around his big fat liver?
*see Harriet Beecher-Stowe, “book”
@@f.kieranfinney457 since most slavery was committed by non white groups, it’s interesting that only the white component is being harassed and harried on a daily basis. It’s an unfortunate truth that most captured Africans put into slavery were actually sold and transported into other African areas and held as slaves in Africa and the Middle East.
Too many people just watch tv and don’t want to hear the truth as the excuse dies with the lies that whites are the only peoples that took slaves. I read recently that the larger slave owner in North America was a black man! He put the white slave owners to shame in numbers and how he treated them was extremely cruel. I’ll have to dig his name up and post it.
@@f.kieranfinney457First of all, he stated how abhorrent slavery was several times during his speech. Pointing out the many sound reasons why requiring current citizens to make “reparations” for an atrocity that Britain ended in 1805 is folly doesn’t make him an apologist. Secondly, being polite and listening while someone offers an opposing view, particularly when it is well stated and based on fact and reason, doesn’t equate to the audience putting him on a pedestal. Civility towards those who reasonably believe differently is a hallmark of a stable society. Conversely, the lack of civility, which is increasingly common and even celebrated today, is disheartening evidence of the erosion of societies around the globe.
It literally stupefies me to see how absolutely indoctrinated our youth had become, brings to mind how the enemy had “crept in unawares”
Please resist being 'literally' stupified by something with which you disagree. It serves no purpose.
all according to their plan
We need a good purge all these snowflakes gotta go
Well said
Yuri Bezmenov was right .... and we didn't listen.
Brilliant this is so correct we don't owe anyone anything
Cell phones should be banned from these sessions .... .
My daughter in law teaches at Cambridge University. She insists that her students switch off their phones and leave them on a table by the door. One such student started a campaign to have her fired for interfering with his "basic human rights"; thankfully the dean of the college "advised" him of the foolishness of his ways.
@@hb1338 Oh they'll know all about that! Basic human rights is prob. top of their lists....
@@margaretflounders8510 Hazelnut lattes are a human right!
Probably are - but these students are ignorant.
@@margaretflounders8510EUHR
The immaturity of these Cambridge students is embarrassing especially the rude young woman behind
I agree. When this began i noticed a cell phone in action and at 8:13 the wall crowd they couldn't care less about the topic at hand.
She was so annoying and ignorant.
no it isnt half of what this liar said is false. he taked about india and said india benefitted from the british when in reality the british commited some of the worst attrocities of all time in india. they destroyed an entire civilisation.india constituted to 30% of world gdp in1700 and the british bought it down to 2%. they caused at least 30 famines in 150 years killing nearly 200 million people. the avg life expectancy dropped to 27 years during british raj. they stole 45 trillion dollars and compelety destroyed indian economy by making very unfair laws at gun point. the literacy rate when they left was 7 percent and they divided the country into 2 on the basis of relegion which would result in 100s of million people getting diplaced and result into further 10 million deaths. it boils my blood to hear know that this is what they teach you in britian. hiding and atrocity is an atrocety itself. i do not as for reperations, all i ask is to at least admit what they did bcs it seems like they have manged to cover up their crimes at least in their own country.
@@sahilbishnoi8944 You unfortunately are speaking from prejudice and ignorance, and are easily fooled by weak arguments, unable to give proper context to numbers.
India went from 30% of world GDP to 2% not because the GDP of the subcontinent decreased, but because of industrialization in Europe:
Before industrialization, GDP was narrowly linked to population size, but the GDP of newly industrial powers skyrocketted.
Then you speak of "unfair laws at gun point", which is true, this is what all non democratic states do BTW, and the entire historey of India prior colonization. Now are you questioning that the british have not immensely improved equality among indians, and between men and women? Are you questioning the fact that burning widows alive has been stopped by the british? etc...
And your argument about indian population has been in advance countered in the video. The population of India has surged since colonization; as for famines, they were not a rare event on the subcontinent. A simple lookl at the demographic of colonized lands tells all there needs to be said of the question of the benefits of colonization, population surge implies higher life expectancy, implying in turn better life.
The main issue with people like you is that you are guilty of presentism. You see events from past century out of context, incapable of looking at the realistic alternatives, and worse, think like a 21th century person at the issues of the time.
I came here to say this.
I went on a trip to Jamaica years ago and I talked to a guy there and he said he had no grudge against the British and stated the exact same thing that this speaker said about having a better standard of living there than they would have in Africa. He said, "now we have our own country, and it is a beautiful country."
He had a great attitude about it all.
I always tell people how europeans were taken to Africa as galley slaves but facts mean little to people.
they got reparations... they got the land, and this land did'nt belong to them anymore than it belonged to the british.
Too often these kinds of videos serve nothing more than to slam africa especially subsahara africa, sub-saharan african nations have already apologized for their part in it what's more these kinds of video say nothing about the impact of islam and christianity on african slavery, for them it is enough to simply say "slavery existed before we came".
Anyone truly interrested in the subject should look at the rise of slave kingdom you will see that these were the very same kingdoms that traded with muslims and christians in exchange for weapons then preyed on those who did not.
To stay on the subject though i am from subsahara africa and almost certain i have a higher standard of living than this guy so it is not a general rule, what's more you've got african nations with higher gdp per capita and than jamaica.
Many of these gains are fairly recent because countries like china are interested in investing in infrastructure in the region for future trade partners, this is the main reason they are so popular here.
It never ceases to amaze me the sheer arrogance of the woke that they presume to know how people in other nations should act, think or feel.
It is ironically neo-colonialism in it's purest form.
I went to Jamaica 3 years ago.. they still don't hold grudges. They are proud of who they are and don't need to feel like victims. It's Western-driven neuroticism.
Rage gave a brilliant rebuttal speech. This needs to be broadcast in schools
Looking at most of those students faces they have already made up their minds not to listen to the facts that is being put to them. I am ashamed of you Cambridge Students.
That's why he intentionally made his first point about being on the winning side of every debate but already knew the result of this one.
They closed their ears, indoctrination has already done it's damage.
As a law lecturer of a reputable UK university I can comfortably accuse the modern institutions as nourishing a mindset amongst their students where any fact which doesn't appease their ego driven, self delusional narrative gives them the right to be enraged, abusive and in some cases violent. This is devoid of any dialogue or conversation only that they're entitled to be disrespectful. Appalling behaviour that's sadly a common theme.
Disgusting. And to think that they're so brainwashed in their outlook that they cannot see how captured they are by this woke mentality is disturbing.
I call BS to your statement, changes are here to stay, whitewashing history will be in the past soon.
@@danika9448
2006? The lecturers of 2006 did not stop lecturing today. They are still there, and they are the ones putting these thoughts in these childrens mind
Cambridge University used to be a hugely respected institution. Watching this, I would never encourage anyone to study there. They need a complete fumigation to rid themselves of these so called students AND the professors responsible for it.
The attitude of those taking higher education is a clear illustration of the degeneration of our society.
Clearly have become lost as already said in their fantasy word.
The clever manipulators of the destruction of their thinking mind must be well pleased.
This manipulation is as clever as that of Gobles under the Hitler regime.
Take very serious note of this.
Is the next stage a burning of books & then denial of the Holocaust!!!!!!!
Probably the most accurate lecture they will ever have.
HiS'tory is no our Story, if you believe the narrative of mainstream you are sorely misinformed.....
kind regards Legends
Rafe is correct!!!
The Carribbean standard of living has increased big time. 💯❤️🇹🇹
The amount of disrespect among these kids is appalling. The continued disruption and talking while someone else has the floor is ridiculous.
They can't listen because they are brainwashed
Be appalled at the parents for their upbringing
@@sendmail7426 nope these punks deserve their own punishment.
@@sendmail7426 why? we should treat an individual as responsible for their actions, not the parents or other "reasons" for their poor behavior. At least if we are talking about adult aged individuals.
@@kennethburmeister8119 because when adults teach the children certain behaviours, it isn't the children's' fault when those behaviour become common.
Honestly, this man’s words stirred a fire of pride to be British. In recent years, the anti British sentiment has been belt fed and it’s great to hear so succinctly why we should be proud rather than ashamed
It's ok. As an American I'll always respect the contributions the British empire had to history. But I'll also always razz you guys about kicking your asses out of America. Back to the way it should be
there is no prodness in colonialism. Your nation stripped those coutnries from their natural resourcess. The fact those societies turned out bad is also fact, but bad things Britain did are also fact. There are many things to be proud about being British, from science, trough art to sports - but what he said is not for being proud (we messed you up, but if we didn;t sahow up you would be messed up more". That is not an argument. Maybe for not paying reparations, but to be proud of - no.
The British should be proud. They civilized half the world and what do they have to show for it, other than a couple of really big diamonds.
@@ivanangeli he's right though; british former colonies fared better overall than the other countries; there must be something good they did in the colonies, apart from stripping them of resources
@@jacobsampsonis7782 you kicked no ass, the liberal british elite had no will to fight against the american revolution; besides, you rebelled against a 2% tax, to end up in time paying 20 times more to the new political center
This is Cambridge, one of the oldest and most prestigious institutions in the world. It is an honour and a privilege to be accepted to study at such an institutional. Therefore, it is very disappointing to see how some of the students are being so rude, on their phone and chatting while a guest is giving a presentation.
It certainly a great university, but unlike in the U.S., they at least remained silent and let him speak, instead of shouting him down.
End result is still the same. Shouting or not they are morons
In all fairness, MPs do that in parliament so maybe there's a link!
Little scumbags !!
Oh this cancer has entered into higher educations and most are now a woke joke
I can physically see the vacuum behind their eyes.
The man's doing nothing other than talking truths and common sense.
@Johan Olin-Selin Please expound.
@@johnnyslane3056 good luck getting a leftist to expound on anything... That is their entire schtick.. Just huck out accusations and emotional tirades having no logical or factual backing.
@Johan Olin-Selin Yes, let's see what-- if anything-- you've got.
@@johnnyslane3056
Let me give you a clear example
The British launched the first of many attacks on China beginning with the first opium wars in 1839, when the Chinese government (of the Qing Dynasty) saw its citizens been plagued by opium addiction mostly sold by the British who illegally exported to China hundreds of shipments of opium from its colony in India.
When China lost the opium wars against Britain, it was forced into signing of the Treaty of Nanjing, By its provisions, China was required to pay Britain a large indemnity, cede Hong Kong Island to the British, and increase the number of treaty ports where the British could trade from one to five, while allowing the British to openly import opium to China.
Hong Kong while under the British rule for more than 150 years from from 1841 to 1997, never saw a day of democracy as every single Governor of Hong Kong was a Brit appointed by the British monarch. While British monarch is the supreme ruler of Hong Kong, the Governor is the plenipotentiary representative of the monarch. The position of Governor is extremely powerful, presiding over the Executive Council as well as the Legislative Council of Hong Kong, and has full control of the appointment AND dismissal of members to both councils.
so, it would be extremely hypocritical for the UK to now support Hong Kong in its so-called democratic movement once it was returned to Chinese sovereignty while the British never gave the people of Hong Kong a day of democracy during its rule.
@@johnnyslane3056 You'll be waiting a while for a response 🤣
Some very ill mannered young people in the audience behind Mr Heydel Mankoo. The authorities managing the debate should have brought order to the proceedings.
Surprised if most of them still suck their thumbs and wear bibs
The Cambridge Union is run by students - look at the people in the officers chairs at the beginning of the clip and ask yourself if they have the air of people who have a clue about anything.
Exactly! That is the very reason that spoiled, rude, brats behave the way they do. There is NO order, much less any consequences to ridiculous behavior. The parents of the children, yes children that were rude and disrespectful are utter failures.
@@DearMr.Fantasy "Parents", or a couple who managed to support the results of a biological act to an age generally considered to be an adult, and who had the money to send said results to college?
@@kevincrosby1760 🎯 KC
My 10th-grade history students, from rural Florida, would be honored to have a man like him speak to them. They would have listened.
Key word is "rural". More teaching, less indoctrination. There are still schools around here that don't bother taking roll during wheat harvest, as the high school students are out in the fields in combines or trucks. Seeing a rifle or shotgun in a student's car or pickup isn't a huge concern, just an indication that SOMETHING yummy when cleaned and cooked happens to be in season and destined for the dinner table.
Funny thing, what they lack in SJW and Gender Identity training seems to be offset by an ability to read, write, do basic math, and apply logic and common sense to resolve a problem.
Florida is where woke goes to die.
Brilliant.
@@jeffspicolli593 the only State that would put them out of their misery 😂
contact him for an appearance!
Why does the entire audience look like primary school children?
It is not ethical to extort reparations from non-slaveholders.
At the risk of sounding old - these students are at a premium educational establishment - if they do not want to listen to someone trying to educate them They should be thrown out and replaced with the ones who "just failed" the entrance exam
'just failed' to come up with the money or connections more likely.
That being the case, they are most likely to come from families whose ancestors actually DID own slaves or were involved in the slave trade and therefore they themselves have benefitted from it.
Remember this is a debating society, not a lecture hall. It bases itself on the UK House of Commons, where behaviour is far worse.
There where a good example here, A couple of school children chatting away oblivious to this lecture?? Which in my opinion was outstanding!! 🤔👍
@@Yawnyaman Exactly, I don’t think the people criticising the students have experience of debates. The occasional Point of Information request is not “rude”.
Well said Rafe.
The fact that these people are using their phones during his speech is deplorable. Such bad manners seem to be acceptable today but it is ignorance in the extreme.
And it's not just kids who do that.
They may be using their phones to take notes and upload them to cloud storage. I do this and have to explain that I'm not being rude.
@KingCrab85 Oh, you mean those carbon sticks that old people use 🤪
@@KevinRodgersGB
Which will actually make you remember things better, because you write down what's important.
@fransbuijs808 Yes, both will aid memory
Children with zero world experience!
I’m currently enrolled in university, nothing of the (apparent) caliber of Cambridge. But I see this in lecture theatres constantly, students chatting, playing games, sitting on their phones and just being immature while getting educated from the brightest minds in their field trying to provide discourse and encourage critical thinking. They couldn’t care less and It’s very hard not to get cynical.
Buddy.
Look at your government while in session.
Fuck them, in level 3 IT I didn’t bother with my classmates, I focused on getting the highest grade and I did, it was only when I got a girlfriend that my uni years failed, too distracting.
So sorry to hear this. When I was there, there was none of that.
I also got to university, and I imagine we are of different programs. Many individuals goto university through parental or societal pressures and thus do not see it as a blessing. However, in terms of my program many students are quite interested in the course material as well as the professor. I am in Greek and Roman studies, with a minor in archaeology and linguistics. Nonetheless, you should be proud you see your education and faculty for what they are. Do not worry about the others, many of them will not remain.
Its a Lefty uni now. What more did you expect from degenerate scum?
If these students are the future then the country is well in the shit.
Agreed. Morons.
They are, and it is…
Our country has no future, it's well into end of life care measures, by design I might add.
We are totally in the shit… we will be run by children who are narcissistic and who believe that the world owes them a salary…
And they are the cream?
How did we get here? We have students unwilling to hear the facts, and even more alarming is the attitude they have.
The youth are soft and full of weakness. Always have been.
I have been giving this a lot of thought lately and it is 2 fold. First is people think we are smart enough, wise enough, moral enough to make our way through life with out any kind of objective moral framework like the Bible and Religion. That we can just make it up as we good this is partly the fault of the protestants. The 2nd which accelerated this process to lightspeed is the internet allowing people with whatever whim or flight of fancy they have to be validated and indulged because there was going to be SOMEONE else like that in the world. Rather than properly repressing and growing out of such stupidity they let the delusion continue to the point of becoming their identity. This is how or why these people refuse to give it up because they have staked all they are on that identity.
It gets harder and harder not to see the wisdom in the first commandment which is, "Thou shalt not have any other gods before me."
Social media, feminism, pushy anchors news outlets, race baiters and university indoctrination
Because they have been brain washed by pure drivvle.
We have several streams here, a youth mostly interested in quick soundbites, a media happy to peddle spin and lies in soundbites, a virtue signalling generation not willing to say things that may be interpreted badly on social media etc. All of these things alone to encourage dumb communication
The man may be right or wrong, you may agree or disagree, but his points were actually well made and done in good faith. It made me think.
The looks of indignation on these children's faces when facts are presented is priceless.
I am guessing they will have the exact same look on their face when they enter the real world, and start their very first job.
Those students didn't WANT to listen, once they realized that the man's points were unassailable. Their discomfort was obvious. I wonder how many students, if any, actually listened and took the time to even consider a new point of view that might take them our of their comfort zones?
His argument is unassailable only as long as you don't examine it critically. Once you do so, you can see it's really a very weak argument. See my take-down above.
@@timaddison868 none to be seen above. Quite likely it is a lot further down in the comments.
You do know UA-cam shows your own starting comments at the very top, right? And all others see something very different
I have read from the top, seen you give this reply several times, but your main thesis is not to be found yet
@@sjonnieplayfull5859
The problem is not that his facts are incorrect; it's that they're not relevant facts. He states at 1:43 that, were it 1807, he probably would agree that former slaves were worthy of damages. But, he argues that, it's not 1807; it's not even 2007, and that, at 2:46, whereas 19th century slaves suffered terribly, "their descendants have a far better quality of life had they remained in Africa." That may be so. But, by not having made reparations in 1807, former slaves were not able to acquire the sorts of assets, such as land, houses, investments or savings that could be passed along to their heirs. A person who has land or a house can borrow against it and use those funds to invest in a business or education; they can also reinvest the money they save by not having to pay rent or mortgages. The same is true for people with savings and investments. Businesses can also be passed along from generation to generation.
But by not paying reparations way back in 1807 (or1865 in the US) former slaves had to start from nothing - and were unable to pass along anything to future generations. So while Rafe Heydel-Mankoo is probably correct that the descendants of former slaves living in the UK are better off than people in the African countries from which their ancestors were kidnapped, they're neither as well off as white UKers, nor as well off as they would be, had their ancestors received reparations.
At 3:26 he asks whether descendants of slaves "are entitled to benefit from their (the slaves) suffering?" This phrasing is misleading. Slave owners were the direct beneficiaries of the suffering of slaves. Had the slaves been paid fairly for their work, and been able to buy land and accumulate other assets with their wages, they could have passed those assets on, in which case, their descendants would be the beneficiaries of their hard work - not their suffering. Reparations stand for the value of unpaid fair wages compounded over generations.
At 3:28 he tosses a red herring by asking "Who should pay?" The answer to this question - whatever it is - has nothing to do with the fundamental question of whether it is right to pay reparations for slavery. Either it is right to make reparations or it's not. How you going about paying them is a separate question, one to be answered only after answering the first question.
His question at 4:49 about why African countries involved in the slave trade aren't also asked to make reparations is a text book example of "what-about-ism." It's silly. At best it's juvenile.
At 5:28 he complains that too much energy is devoted to complaints about historic slavery versus slavery as it exists today. But again, it's apples and oranges. These are two separate issues. People in the UK are actively experiencing the effects of a failure of previous governments to make reparations. It's not just natural for them to focus on that issue, but as participants in a democracy, they have an obligation to address that issue head-on. As world-citizens they should also be concerned about slavery in the present day (but who says they're not) - but not before they've taken care of each other.
At 6:19 he wonders whether Britain should seek reparations from north African countries which enslaved a million Europeans and answers "No, of course not." Perhaps, however, he answers "no" because at the same time Europeans were being enslaved in Ottoman caliphates and Muslim controlled Italy, Muslim slaves were being held in equal numbers in Europe.
At 6:48 he suggests that certain former British slave colonies are doing even better than certain European countries in terms of per-capita GDP, and complains that we never hear about that. But his argument here also, when scrutinized, doesn't withstand analysis. He names the Bahamas, Barbados, St. Kits, Antigua, and Nevis. But what he doesn't mention that these island nations are mostly the beneficiaries of their geographic locations - and not industry or agriculture. Antigua and Barbados generate 61% of their GDP from tourism; Aruba, 60%; the Bahamas 28%, and so on. Portugal, Spain and Mexico generate, respectively, 41%; 15% and 7.5% of their GDP from tourism.
At 7:19 he compares former slave colonies, using the UN's HDI, against various other countries and asks and answers "How has the British Empire disadvantaged the Caribbean nations? It's not clear to me." Perhaps it would be more clear if he bothered to look at the Index itself. In 2021, the UK ranked 18th on the HDI. The nearest of its former slave colonies, the Bahamas, ranked 51st.
The rest of the video is more of the same; cherry-picked factoids, devoid of context or relevant details; red herrings, and straw men.
The students, on the other hand, comported themselves well. They didn't shout him down, or boo, or hiss. They did make occasional noises of incredulity - but why shouldn't they have, given that he either couldn't be bothered to properly research the topic, or was willfully trying to mislead them? The students did make the effort to show up, after all. Anyone and everyone who was in that audience deserved better.
@@timaddison868 Lol, you should debate him publicly then. 😂
@@_se7enfall_944 I wouldn't hesitate to.